Re: Stus-List Pump-out fitting

I have a 33ii with standard deck fitting, AND an adaptor that fits perfectly and gladdens the hearts of those who have to pump the tank. Will photograph and measure and post. Dave Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:12:26 + From: Paul Fountain To:

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

This is getting confusing. Before I knew about the 'structural' aspect of the windows of my 1995 C XL, a local yard replaced them with what looks like acrylic at least partially held in place with screws, the heads of which I can see on the outside of the windows. This was about 10-12 years

Re: Stus-List Pump out fitting

I bought mine through a place that sells hoses to equipment operators and belts, etc. Glass filled Nylon, I think. Tractor supply sells them also for 5 bucks. http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/gator-lock-quick-coupler-1-1-2-in-p art-f?cm_vc=-10005 Also R/V Supply places. Not sure if my

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

Charlie: I made the decision to use an adhesive (Sika) that will 'flex' as I am sure the cabin top does on my boat (probably my car does as well.) Rob Abbott AZURA C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2015-10-21 10:38 AM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote: This is getting confusing. Before I knew

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

Gary, I am surprised that you have 1/4” acrylic. To have the strength acrylic should be more like 3/8”. Are you sure you don’t have 1/4” polycarbonate? I recently replaced all of the fixed ports on my LF38 using 1/4” Makrolon (abrasion & UV resistance polycarbonate), 3M VHB tape, and Dow

Stus-List C 24 Bimini Question

Hi Friends, I just joined the esteemed C family by purchasing a 1977 C 24.  I wonder whether anyone has any design ideas for a bimini that could cover the full cockpit while under sail.  The issue is that the mainsheet lands on a shackle in the middle of the cockpit.  A helmsman's bimini is

Re: Stus-List Hydrolocked!

An interesting question would how did you manage to hydro lock it. The easiest way is to use garden hose to feed water into the cooling system with a failed impeller. But what method did you use? Marek Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David Pulaski via CnC-List Sent: October 21, 2015

Re: Stus-List Hydrolocked!

Hi David, you are lucky, insomuch as these yanmar engines are very durable. An attempt to start this cold engine if it is hydro'd is unlikely to bend a con rod. Being compression start it must have a couple of compression cycles to develop enough heat to fire the first cylinder. No glow

Re: Stus-List Hydrolocked!

No glow plugs on a yanmar. Pulling the injectors sucks but might be the only way. It does have a decompression lever which might turn out to be useful and easier. A shop vac on the exhaust with decompression levers and slowly turning over by hand is what i would do. Josh On Oct 21, 2015 11:59

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

I used 3/8" acrylic when I did the fixed port lights on my 1983 29-2 this spring. I adhered them in place with black Dow 795. The 3/8" thickness sits proud of the cabin side by ~1/8". I used a router to make a 1/8" chamfer all around the edge (before installing) and then polished it with wet

Re: Stus-List C 24 Bimini Question

I have seen (pictures) of C 24 with a dodger out of BC. I guess they sail there year round and it can get quite cold. Marek From: Paul Baker via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul Baker Subject: Re: Stus-List C 24 Bimini Question I

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

I once worked as a supervisor in the area where windshields were installed in an automotive assembly plant. At that time the adhesives used were all moisture cured polyurethane type adhesives, and so far as I know they still are. Proper primer and application procedure was critical to getting

Re: Stus-List C 24 Bimini Question

Alex, My 35-1 has end boom sheeting and the traveler in the cockpit. I have forward and aft biminis to allow passage of the mainsheet purchase. I have a filler piece which zips in/out for sailing or when at anchor or docked. The filler piece is split with a hook and loop closure around the

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

Gary — I’m going to be replacing the fixed windows on my LF38 over the winter. I’ve done the Plexus thing twice now (previous boat); this time, I’m going to try the VHB tape with Dow 795 approach, like Paul did on Johanna Rose: http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/NewPorts. I’ll be

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

Hi Paul, I agree that 1/4" is too thin. The other 37+ at my club has 5/16" It amazes me that people with no marine design experience would change the design. I plan to go with 3/8" acrylic. But then again... The problem with Lexan (which is a polycarbonate) is that it is less scratch

Stus-List bottom paint stripping

I am planning to strip all the old bottom paint off this fall and repaint in the spring. I have two questions for the list: 1. I have two quotes now- the higher uses walnut shells and the lower uses crushed recycled glass in water. Both claim gentle on the gelcoat and little followup prep

Re: Stus-List Hydrolocked!

That sounds seriously bad. I would be worried if the water was in there 10 minutes. I know I am not making you feel any better. Could you remove the injectors and crank it to blow it out? Bill Coleman C 39 Erie, PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

I have owned my LF 38 for over 30 years now. I have done the Plexus repair twice--so, I have been through 3 sets of windows (if you include the originals) within probably the first 20 years. Because of my frustration with Plexus, I designed and built stainless steel frames for my boat, using

Stus-List Hydrolocked!

Well this is a crappy way to end the season. Short story is, I'm 99% positive that I managed to get water in the cylinders in my Yanmar 3GM30F, and now have a hydrolock. Thankfully, the engine was not running when it happened, but I *did* attempt to crank the motor with the starter a couple

Re: Stus-List Hydrolocked!

Here is an article from Sail Magazine just this week about fixing their hydrolock. Not incredibly detailed, but optimistic! On

Re: Stus-List Hydrolocked!

David, Ugh is right. Happened to us the end of June. I had two options: Rebuild (which would take months) or Repower (less time, but more expensive). Since it's the end of the season, you may consider rebuild, but, as I was told, rebuild guys often cut corners and rebuilts are not always to

Stus-List Strengths of Various Adhesives

I did a bit of quick research on adhesives. My quick look and the terminology may lead to inaccuracies. I am not a materials engineer. For instance, shear strength numbers were either listed as shear strength or lap shear strength, then there is dynamic vs static whatever. Please take the info

Stus-List Hydro locked

David I have a 3 HM on my 36 and it actually had spend more than a few days submerged underwater. Although in my case it filled with water slowly as the boat settled under the water.As soon as the boat came up, the engine was pickled in oil. Once the oil was pumped out, we started it

Re: Stus-List bottom paint stripping

I stripped Corsair's bottom soon after I bought her. I decided to not barrier coat because if it was still dry (per survey the year prior) after 24 + years, my theory is she will survive another 24 years without the BS of applying barrier coats. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650

Re: Stus-List Strengths of Various Adhesives

From this, it sure looks like Plexus is the best structural option; 5200 would be next, but it’s not compatible with acrylic. I’m surprised that LifeSeal shows such good characteristics. VHB tape, 4200 and Sika are all in about the same range. Looking at a cut sheet for Dow 795 (which you

Re: Stus-List bottom paint stripping

I spoke the yard today about barrier coating. Their experience was it trapped moisture which causes the barrier coat to fail. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury C 44 Portland, Or On Oct 21, 2015 1:26 PM, "David Knecht via CnC-List" wrote: > I am planning to strip all the old bottom

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

Funny story about re-bedding windows and may shed a bit of light on adhesive choices. Bought the bought in East Greenwich, RI. Soon after the purchase I stopped in on the way to the airport to pat the New Love on her behind. For whatever reason in the process I popped out a window! Holy

Re: Stus-List Strengths of Various Adhesives

Remember that VHB tape is typically used on outdoor signs--it is not meant for any structural purpose. Flexibility is probably more important than strength for the adhesive.. Dow 795 is silicone. Bob On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:29 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote: > From this, it sure

Re: Stus-List Hydrolocked!

> An A4 will usually survive getting flooded. Diesels not so much… I was able to recover from a hydrolocked diesel on a 1993 delivery from Hawaii to Seattle by removing the injectors and using compression to blow out the sea water. We changed the lube oil as some sea water made it into the

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

I am replacing my windows on Pegasus using 3/8 plexiglass, VHB (4991) tape, Dow 795 sealant. I have done the Sikaflex route didn't work. Lasted 4 years. A friend used the tape method 20 years ago still no leaks.  Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. --

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

Fred, The VHB tape with DOW Corning 795 Silicone Sealant is starting to look like and attractive method. I am replacing the windows over the winter, also. We should keep in touch. Do I assume you would use the gray VHB tape with the gray silicone sealant? I am wondering if the VHB tape

Re: Stus-List Strengths of Various Adhesives

Fred. Based on Don Casey's article, the 3M VHB tape is for adhesion and the 795 DOW Corning silicone sealant is just for sealing. No? Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Based on the data, it sounds like

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

Guess I was kinda hinting why people don't use LifeSeal to install the newer ports. :) Glad to see it works. Dennis C. On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:16 PM, David via CnC-List wrote: > Funny story about re-bedding windows and may shed a bit of light on > adhesive choices.

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

Life seal has sealed up some of my hardware admirably. OTOH, I find it impossible to keep the it off of stuff I don't want sealed and a PITA to clean up. Maybe I just need to suffer its failings and appreciate its advantages. Charlie Nelson Sent from my iPad > On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:39 PM,

Re: Stus-List Strengths of Various Adhesives

Based on the data, it sounds like VHB with LifeSeal would be a great combination (four times stronger than with Dow 795). Has anyone tried that yet? Or am I going to be the first guinea pig? :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(

Stus-List Replacing Windows

Steve: Sika 295 UV requires using the Sika primer ...I have witnessed a few instances where people would not buy the Sika primer because of the cost (it is expensive relative to the Sika 295) and the bond did not last any time..if you don't use the Sika primer you are making a big

Re: Stus-List bottom paint stripping

Consider dry ice blasting. That's what was recommended to me. It leaves almost nothing to clean up and is very mildly abrasive. Some of the media can leave pocks which need filled and fared. Ratchets the price up considerably. I don't think my 1989 37+ is barrier coated. But when i had my

Re: Stus-List bottom paint stripping

This may make sense for a quick haul out jobs of days, but stripping in the Fall and repainting in the Spring would be the ideal for barrier coating. - Paul E. 1981 C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ > On Oct 21, 2015, at 7:16 PM,

Re: Stus-List Strengths of Various Adhesives

LifeSeal is my "go to" sealant. Haven't used 4200 (polyurethane) or silicone in months. Dennis C. On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > From this, it sure looks like Plexus is the best structural option; 5200 > *would* be next, but

Re: Stus-List Strengths of Various Adhesives

Just curious about people’s opinions of various non-marine adhesive sealants that have come on the market in recent years. I’ve used this one to seal portlights in metal frames (not on a C) and a couple of deck fittings with great results.

Re: Stus-List C 24 Bimini Question

You bet! In most of Canada we get 10 months of winter and 2 months of poor sledding. At least in B.C. we get 3 months of poor sledding. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 east side o' Vancouver Island At 09:38 AM 21/10/2015, you wrote: I have seen (pictures) of C 24 with a dodger

Re: Stus-List Strengths of Various Adhesives

The VHB tape supplies the structural strength, while the Dow 795 is the sealant. At least that is the information I was able to get.  Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From: Frederick G Street via CnC-ListDate: Wed, Oct 21,

Re: Stus-List Hydrolocked!

Dave, The only tool you need is a pump (to remove water from cylinders). I would not sweat much about it. You said that you tried cranking the engine. If it is hydro locked, the starter motor would not be able to move it. The general effect would sound more or less like when your battery is

Re: Stus-List Hydrolocked!

Don’t follow their advice. I don’t think there is any point in disassembling the entire engine. The only advice is to get that water out, as soon as possible. Marek Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List Sent: October 21, 2015 16:13 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc:

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

We have done the windows twice – first time the contractor used ¼” – lots of issues, then had South Shore make a new set from the original templates, and they are 3/8” and have done much better – had a lot of repair work around the windows as a result of the first contractor, so could not make

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

I just replaced the glued in ports on a small 26 footer. I put them in with LifeSeal. The manufacturer currently puts them in with silicone. The ports are around 4 feet long but the opening does have a post in the middle for strength. I can't help but wonder why not put the newer C ports in

Stus-List Replacing Windows

I don't know what choices in adhesives C had to choose from in 1984 when my boat was built, nevertheless, the one used was Plexus, which harden like resin and was the cause of my windows leaking. The windshield on my car is part of the vehicle's 'structural integrity' and it is held in place

Re: Stus-List Replacing Windows

When the second windows were installed, they used Sika 295 and primer also, then a Sika caulk around the windows looks great. - Kim was an artist with how well he matched the gel coat where he did repairs . Paul Fountain Managing Director SeaSource Inc. Bookkeeping & IT Services. From:

Re: Stus-List Pump-out fitting

Brad, We ended up replacing the all the deck fittings on Perception our 33-II with stainless. If I recall the original were from New Zealand, and we could not find a waste fitting to fit. This was done as part of replacing the hoses too. Paul Fountain Perception-II 1985 C 33-II