Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a geared one so that you can be sure that it opened. If you race, the lowest drag 2 blade demonstrated by tests in Yachting magazine was a Gori--which I have used for several years without problems. It takes a few seconds

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

I had a Martec for our A4 powered boat and HATED it. For racing the low drag was nice, but that is the best thing I could say about it. Reverse was only a theory with that prop. It was dumpsterized about 18 years ago. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

My layout for club racing / cruising (C 33 mkII) The boat came with double deck organizer, plenty of clutches and four winches at the pit (one Barient 21 ST, two 18, one 10) Main, outaul, Cunningham, vang, first and second reef, jib and spin halyards and baby stay, are all led aft. BUT, i

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

For us the tide range is only 2 feet or so normally and the charts are all done for low tide, so as long as the depthfinder is > or = to the charted depth, things are good. If not, either I am lost or the chart is wrong. There are a couple of places near me where I am aground in what should be

Stus-List folding vs geared folding prop

Interesting discussion. We have a Martec elliptical folding prop on a shaft on Persistence. Our friends with the C "Prospector" have a geared folding prop on a saildrive. When we arrived at in Cape Breton my friend Andy (owner of Prospector) wanted to move Persistence and he did it by coming

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

My (Feathering, not folding) Max Prop 2 blade is excellent in reverse as well. Of course, you should look at the oft cited Practical Sailor report on folding and feathering props for more objective opinions. Should be easy to find Kevin 30-2 PDX On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:32 AM Michael Brown via

Re: Stus-List Welcome to a great resource! [was "Lines led forward"]

Hello again Fred, Kind words indeed and thank you. I did work for many years at Edson and the company as a whole has a wonderful philosophy towards service relations, probably because the company is comprised of enthusiasts that genuinely like their customers and share their passion towards

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

Ditto my Max prop. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater, Mi Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, December 22, 2015 Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List wrote: My (Feathering, not folding) Max Prop  2 blade is excellent in reverse as well. Of course, you should look at the oft cited

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Pretty pleased with two blade folding gori on my 33-2. st [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe at Zialater via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 11:58 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joe at Zialater Subject: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4 My 1975 30-1, Zia

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

Never had an issue with my Martec. Guess I just don't know any different. :) <-smiley face Dennis C. On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Jonathan, > > I think Charlie meant to criticize two-bladed FOLDING propellers as having >

Stus-List Folding props

I was not referring to feathering props. As I understand them, they are designed to be about equal in forward or reverse. My former Max-Prop 3 blade feathering prop was excellent and relatively quickly got the boat going in reverse. Any geared folding 2-blade prop will get a boat moving in

Re: Stus-List Welcome to a great resource! [was "Lines led forward"]

Chuck, I talked to you or one of your colleagues at the Annapolis Boat Show. I hope you find a local dealer! So you worked with our favorite yacht designer, Rob Ball! Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello

Re: Stus-List Welcome to a great resource! [was "Lines led forward"]

Thanks Joel, Still working on getting a Naptown dealer for the rope. Yes, fortunate to have worked and sailed with Rob Ball. He's rather pleased with my new purchase. Best, Chuck Gilchrest Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 22, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List >

Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment

Patrick, I don’t think the piano hinges on your anchor locker are original C I have 6” SS strap hinges which are bolted through the cover and the deck. I replaced mine old broken hinges with new ones, overfilling the old holes with thickened epoxy and re-drilling as typically suggested. No

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

I agree I have a max prop 2 blade and reverse is just incredible it's like a tug boat is backing you up. Gary Kolc 1976 38' MKII Liberty Indigo via CnC-List wrote: > "No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a > geared one so that you

Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment

My anchor locker and cockpit lockers are piano hinged, factory original. Graham Collins Secret Plans C 35-III #11 On 2015-12-22 9:24 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List wrote: Patrick, I don’t think the piano hinges on your anchor locker are original C I have 6” SS strap hinges which are bolted

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Jonathan, My jacklines are tied to the cleats behind the cabin-top winches. They attached to the spin pole downhaul ring on the bow so you would have a hard time going over the bow pulpit. Joel On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Indigo via CnC-List wrote: > I am with you

Re: Stus-List Welcome to a great resource! [was "Lines led forward"]

To those who aren’t aware, I believe Chuck worked at Edson in years past; and been a great resource for technically-related steering issues on our old boats. In fact, every customer-service related call I’ve made to Edson over the years (and I believe Chuck has been involved in more than one…)

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

Jonathan, I think Charlie meant to criticize two-bladed FOLDING propellers as having poor reverse power. The Max prop isn't a folding prop, is it? I have a two-bladed Martec and I get along just fine with it. It takes a good shot of throttle to get some momentum in reverse, but then it backs

Re: Stus-List Folding props

> The time it takes between putting her into reverse and actually moving > backward with flow over the rudder is what can take several seconds with a > folder… If other things are happening nearby (current, wind, pilings, etc.), > these few seconds can seem like a very long time!. Back in the

Re: Stus-List Welcome to a great resource! [was "Lines led forward"]

> I’m reading that using a sock can be a bit challenging and can easily foul > midway through the hoist or douse if care isn’t taken to keep lines clear. > Any recommendations? Can one assume that the ATN or North products work > equally well (or poorly)? I have an ATN sock on Calypso and

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

Joe, there is a ton of discussion about props for direct drive A-4s on the Moyer forum. The prevailing opinion seeming to be that it is important to select a prop that will allow the engine to develop enough rpms to get into the heart of it's powerband. A-4s output very little power below 2000

Re: Stus-List Folding props

Great story! When I bought windstar (33ii) she had the original very worn folding (non-geared) Martec.A series of vibrational mis-diagnoses let me through a brand new (2014) gori folding and a slightly too-large fixed two blade.The Martec was awful in reverse, attributed (by Martec)

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You brought a smile to my face with this one Martin! On Tuesday, December 22, 2015 4:48 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List wrote: #yiv4606771206 #yiv4606771206 -- _filtered #yiv4606771206 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered

Re: Stus-List hot water heater

Mike, Different boat etc., but… You want to have the heater as close to the engine as possible. I assume that the heater will be heated with the engine coolant (and possibly with shorepower). The difficult plumbing is from the engine to the water heater and back. And you want to limit

Re: Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment

Patrick, I redid my anchor locker hatch and don't remember any coring. Except on the hatch its self. I cut the hatch in half when I installed my windlass. I have 2 strap hinges on each half, with each one opening outboard.  Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. --

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Thanks Marek, the previous owner has a functional shower set up in the head with a drain to the bilge.all with just the cold water feedguess his wife wasn't interested in using it and he had it set up "just in case" some one needed to wash off quick again thanks Mike

Stus-List hot water heater

Mike here... Just bought a 1978 34' C, she is Red and is quite a rig...previous owner was a casual club racer and took exceptional care of the boat. you will have to excuse my ignorance (on sailing) since I am moving up from a 22' OdayMH.. I have been following the discussions that you

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Mike, Welcome to the list. You will love the C 34 better under sail. The hot water heater on my 34 is at the forward end of the cockpit locker to the right of the engine just as you suggest. I am guessing it was original equipment. Cannot begin to help on how to plumb to the head/shower. Ed

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

"No two blade prop will do very well in reverse although I would get a geared one so that you can be sure that it opened." Have to disagree with this statement. My 35-III with a two blade Max-prop goes very well in reverse. In fact in tight situations I often prefer to extract myself in

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

Joe, Aren't most charts in MLLW? That's even lower than low tide. IIRC it is the average of the LOWEST tides for the last number of years. So even more to your point, "As long as the depthfinder is > or = to the charted depth, things are good. If not, either I am lost or the chart is wrong."

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

Hi All, I’m purchasing a Landfall 35 that has a brand new gennaker but no sock or snuffer. From several forum posts, I’m reading that using a sock can be a bit challenging and can easily foul midway through the hoist or douse if care isn’t taken to keep lines clear. Any recommendations? Can

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

I think keeping spinnaker halyards by the mast is a good idea from many different viewpoints. When using the spinnaker usually you are in light air anyway and safety is not a concern. Bob Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer > On Dec 21, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List >

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

I went for 6 clutches to 9 on the cabin top - 2 jib halyards, 2 spin halyards, main halyard, 1 reef line, cunningham, outhaul and topping lift. I stacked the two original line organizers and found a 4 sheave organizer that fit the original holes. I use these to keep things organized on the

Re: Stus-List Route Planning and Uploading to Chart Plotter

My old laptop died and I've replaced it with a refurbished Panasonic Toughbook. Nice upgrade for cheap. Windows 7 with upgrade to 10 option Next issue, what software to install. For the past 20 years I've used CAPN for route planning and then just connected my laptop into the onboard GPS for

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

Yea but even with that we need to account for tides...the charts show depths at low tide, so I like my depth sounder to indicate actual depth from the water surface, and I usually use a positive offset of 2 feet which is as close as I measured with maybe a couple inches of comfort factor between

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

Agree with Bill...i don't have one but a friend on a similar size boat to Alianna does and he liked it.. Dwight Veinot C 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I am

Re: Stus-List Route Planning and Uploading to Chart Plotter

Allen, Being the cheap SOB that I am, I run OpenCPN on my laptop, but I have never tried to transfer routes to my e7. I also use the free Ray charts on the e7 rather than the Navionics charts. Voyager does not look like it runs independent of the plotter - for that you would need RNS Navigation

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

I am surprised you don't have ten different suggestions already. So I will just tell you to get yourself a nice 2 blade Flex-O-Fold and don't look back. Hard to go wrong there. Bill Coleman C 39 Erie, PA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

Absolutely go with the sock. It makes handling the spinnaker so easy I use it often. I haven't had any problems with mine. And yes, I would assume ATN's and North's are equally good. I think mine is from ATN. Andy C 40 Peregrine Newport, RI On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

MY layout – SB, Spinnaker and Jib halyard on mast, Main and Cunningham led back to clutches. Port, Spinnaker led back to clutch, also a cam cleat on mast. Mostly bear away sets. Jib halyard at mast, rarely used. Main Outhaul, Vang, & first reef also led back to cockpit. As someone mentioned,

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

And Flex-o-Fold likely has WAY MORE reverse than something like a Martec! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:37 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: dwight veinot Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding prop for

Re: Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

I have a Gori 2 blade 11.5 x 8 on Windburn, a 77 30-1 with an Atomic 4 ( Stevedore ). My guess is that at 8 it is over pitched but 11.5 x 8 appears to be the smallest standard Gori prop size. I can get to about 6.2 kts into light weather, and can tow another 10,000 lb boat into waves at 5 kts.

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

Well it seems we have 10 clutches. 5 a side. Pole up, pole down, reef, main, stbd spin on stbd and port spin, jib, outhaul, vang on port with one spare clutch. We like to keep our Pit person busy! Note that this is almost identical to the setup on the C and 115 that we race. Add in

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

I am with you Joel. The least number of people moving around on deck - especially at night - the better. The recent tests by Yachting Monthly (I think it was) on the dangers of going overboard while tethered were terrifying. (I need to find a way to run my jack lines midships instead of along

Stus-List Anchor locker lid attachment

Next up on my winter project list: reinforcing the anchor locker lid attachment. C's are made really well for the most part, but I had a "what were they thinking???" moment this weekend. I was investigating the anchor locker lid hinge (which is screwed into a recessed area of the deck) because

Stus-List Anchor locker hinge attachment

Patrickwhen I purchased Alegria in 2006 the survey mentioned wetness in the anchor locker and cockpit seat hinges.  I replaced the anchor locker hinges with suncor ss hinges thru bolted and beded with butyl tape.  No more leaks.   To dry them out I brought them home, drilled out the