Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

Correction: the decal price went up this year to $28.24. From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ron Ricci Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" I also received the notice. Somehow, the USCG Documentation Center

Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

I also need to purchase a decal from the Department of Homeland Security to sail across Lake Erie ($27.50). No paperwork to process other than self-generated to collect the fee. And of course the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania needs its registration fee because being Federally documented is

Stus-List Force 10 Galley Range - Thermostat

Patriot has a 1991 version of a 3-burner Force 10 propane stove with oven. The temperature control on the oven is totally manual. New versions of the same stove (Galley Gourmet Range) have a thermostatically controlled oven. The newer stove looks pretty much the same as the older stove. it

Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

I also received the notice. Somehow, the USCG Documentation Center enables these guys by providing mailing the list of documented boats. They are taking advantage of an opportunity created when the $26.00 charge was created. You’ll notice that before the government started trying to ‘cover’

Stus-List Edson wheel

Similar concern for me in the past. Found an idler had come loose from its fastening. Have mate turn wheel as you closely observe all of the system. Mine is center cockpit, Colin Lindsey Layne 40C #3 Sent from my iPhone ___ Thanks everyone for

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

That even makes sense from a logical perspective.  The knot does not line up vertically with the keyway in the wheel & center hub.  So, if one has it lined up on one side, and then you take the wheel off and install it from the other direction, viola!  It's way off! Ugh.  And to think I'd be

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Whoa!  That might be it! Not someone messing with me - I've been having the teak refinished, and the wheel had been removed for that work and was laying on the cabin top.  So, I could have easily put it on the "wrong" side out. If that's it, I can breath much easier! That could also account for

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

The sprocket pin ain’t coming out without a drift and a big hammer. It just won’t happen. And if it was partially sticking out, the wheel won’t turn. Chuck G. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 24, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Doug Allardyce via CnC-List > wrote: > > Since you are

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

If I take the wheel off and rotate it 180 degrees, does that create the same deviation? I routinely change between my 32 inch (cruising) and 36 inch (racing) wheels. If I don't put the wheel on with the correct side forward, it is always off a spoke or so. Could someone be messing with you?

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Boat_SigSince you are checking everything, check the tapered pin that holds the sprocket to the pedestal shaft. Doug Allardyce ~_/)~ -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Thats funny!  I was thinking the exact same thing! On 1/24/2018 4:20 PM, Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List wrote: Do you know any really good practical jokers? I can't imagine a possible way for the chain to jump off the socket and the key's unless they somehow broke would prohibit slipping

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Do you know any really good practical jokers? I can't imagine a possible way for the chain to jump off the socket and the key's unless they somehow broke would prohibit slipping elsewhere. On 1/23/2018 9:54 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List wrote: Hello all, OK, I think I have a weird thing

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

A friend of mine who owns a Niagra 35 had his chain slip off the sprocket while he was at a mooring during windy and rough conditions. I asked him if he had locked down his steering wheel; he had not. If you have too much slack in your cables and your rudder is flopping about, you could jump a

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

There should be no play at the radial drive. If the radial is installed properly (bored .003” undersized), when it is tightened in place it should not move. The key only serves as a secondary fixture to prevent the drive from turning on the post if the interference clamping is damaged. The

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Sometimes the most obvious answer is the answer. Given that you were working with the chain to realign the wheel, I suggest looking at all the components that may have been affected during this work as a starting point. From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:36

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

The turks head wraps across a spoke, so no, it can't be moved.  good thought though Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Cc: "Hoyt, Mike"

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

I have had the pedestal partially apart, in that I replaced the brake pads and lubed the chain.  I also got it far enough apart to jump the chain links for the purposes of realigning the wheel.  I have not taken the chain off entirely.  If, in fact the bolts thread into a deck fitting rather

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Any chance that the Turks Head is moving? .. or that someone is not moving it just for fun? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 12:39 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

True, though note that very little play at the radial wheel keyway is required. If your rudder swings 80 degrees and that takes 3 turns lock to lock ( no idea, just an example ), then 1 degree on the rudder is 13.5 degrees on the wheel. If your rudder post is 2.5" diameter then 1 degree is

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

When I tighten my cables I have someone turn the wheel quickly while I watch for slack in the cables. I'm sure this is nowhere near the tension and pressure applied during operation. This "slack" can also be experienced as backlash in the wheel. Or the distance the wheel travels from right to

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Hi Bruce Your bolts don’t look original. Mine are countersunk heads. Mine are aluminum about seven inches long with stainless nuts. When I took mine apart one on the bolts galled up and I had to drill the head out. Edson no longer stocks that type of bolt so I went with a stainless hex

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

I know another list member has tackled the idler replacement in the last 2 years on a similar boat and it was very well documented. Your boat has a unique idler that Edson no longer builds, plus your pedestal bolts actually thread into a deck fixture rather than using through bolts and nuts.

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Hi Chuck, You're right as to the amount of wheel travel, and what that would do to steering if I turn it that much when out sailing.  I also agree as to the keyway, and to Michael's comment, the key is in place and intact, as I removed the radial plate for inspection.  On the C 37/40+, the

Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

Got mine, too. From: bushmark4--- via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 12:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bushma...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center" I received one also, trashed it Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River Richard N.

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Has anyone ever rode a bicycle with a rusty chain. Everything can be fine then all of a sudden the chain derails, with varying results. Those cross bars can do some damage. Check every inch on the chain and de-rust and lubricate as necessary. Mike PERSUASION C 37 K/CB Long Sault > On Jan

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Michael, A 20 degree deviation on wheel centering is an AWFUL lot of wheel travel with no explanation. I suspect Bruce’s boat has a 44” diameter wheel which means at 20 degrees of travel, the Turk’s head knot would have moved roughly 7 ½” to one side or the other. Generally speaking, if my

Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

I received one also, trashed it Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List To: cnc-list

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

While it doesn't seem likely, I think it is easier to pull the radial wheel and check that than go after the idler wheels and plate under the pedestal right now. You could check to see if the key is still there in the rudder post and hasn't become partially sheared or worn in some way from the

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

And weirdly, the steering is very precise, with no sloppiness underway, and it happens when we're OFF the boat! On a side note, when we leave the boat, I tie off the wheel just in case there is more current than the wheel brake can control.  This is done to keep the wheel from turning to the

Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

If it is out of West Virginia, it may be a legit renewal notice from the US Coast Guard and I wouldn’t throw it away quite yet. The “scammer” charges $75 per year for renewal while the Coast Guard charges $26 (or thereabouts). Additionally, the Coast Guard makes you renew each year while the

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

I can pretty much assure you that there is rust. What I can't explain is why the problem comes and goes and at such a prescribed amount. The detrimental rust would also likely cause a looseness in the wheel and cables which would be quite perceptible. Josh On Jan 24, 2018 11:12 AM, "Bruce

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Per Chuck's previous comments, the radial wheel has a keyway and key, so I don't think it can slip.  Similarly, the helm wheel has a keyway and key.  I've tightened the idler pully plate bolts, but I suspect there is rust going on under there, which will mean a full disassembly. Sigh...

Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

You are observant! I do remember previously that they came from California, this notice doesn’t even say where they are. They are just trying to get you to renew online. Regards, Bill Coleman From: Randy Stafford [mailto:randal.staff...@icloud.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

If the radial wheel was slipping on the rudder post it could cause that issue. Maybe use a sharpie and put a line down the rudder post and onto the radial wheel. 20º is not much movement, you may require a fine line. Michael Brown Windburn C 30-1   Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 01:54:12 + (UTC)

Re: Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

Yeah I got one of those in the mail the other day too. It’s a different outfit than the one that scammed me last year. This “Marine Documentation Center” was out of Virginia, whereas “US Vessel Documentation” was out of California. It’s a coast-to-coast racket. Cheers, Randy > On Jan 24,

Stus-List "Maritime Documentation Center"

Just got my EARLY supposed Documentation Renewal from the "Maritime Documentation Center" I think the USCG must have taken heed of all the complaints, as these people have really toned down their ‘Renewal’ There is no amount to pay, and now little bits in there like , This is a courtesy

Stus-List C build files

They may reside with the Marine Museum in Kingston. Alex Giannelia C 35-II (1974) no 282 a...@airsensing.com ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the

Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Several things to consider: 1. If the cables are tensioned correctly, it is nearly impossible for the chain to jump teeth on the sprocket unless the sprocket teeth are broken. You should have no more than 1/2” deflection for every 3’ of unsupported cable. Tighten as necessary. 2. Make sure