Stus-List Batteries again

I have been following the battery discussion and have a question. I need to replace my two 9 year old AGM batteries this season. I have separate start and house batteries which can be combined if needed. I don’t have large power needs (electronics, autopilot and fridge when cruising). I

Stus-List Batteries and chargers

I used a battery check device the other day and found that my batteries were below 50% of their rated power, so I think it is time to replace them (9 years). What I have are 2 (house and start) Deep Cycle Power Tech Group 24 AGM. I went back and read Maine Sailor’s excellent article on

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Looks right Charlie. Easy to verify.  Pull the negative wire off the start battery and see what still works with the switch set to "on".  Engine shouldn't kick, lights should be fine. Graham Collins Secret Plans C 35-III #11 On 2020-06-24 10:01 p.m., Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote:

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Thanks to all who responded to my battery questions—this list is incredible! Between the responses and some YouTube videos I ‘think’ I now understand my system, which was installed and recommended by a pretty smart boat mechanic. I must still confirm that both the switch/acr/charger are wired

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Graham, Everything is fused - just not in the diagram. So yes, the Enterprise is compliant. And I have a 2019 survey to prove it. And it’s “Khan” — though I did know a Jewish kid from Great Neck, Long Island named Kahn who was a bit of a nutjob. Doubt he was capable of any wrath though.

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Well - you don't have a GFI on your 120 circuit, and no fuses on the battery connections (as are required per ABYC).  Not sure I'd go so far as suggesting you be banished 'tho - seems a bit harsh. Plus people who get banished turn into psycho nutjobs like Kahn, we don't need that kind of

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All, Here is a diagram from 2015 when I started this project — https://www.dropbox.com/s/a114viuob5m3kpl/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf?dl=0 There have been a few modifications since then, but nothing major. It has

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When I added a solar panel, I put in a dual controller and wired that directly to my two batteries since I did not have a good common bus point. That has worked fine and makes it simpler to run wires as you can run them wherever is easiest between the panel and the batteries. Something like

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The only way I can picture you system of 2 house batteries and a start with an ACR switch of start/1/ALL is that while you have 2 physical house batteries, you only have 1 house bank. Can you confirm? Convention is to have the start battery is more or less connected directly and exclusively to

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My 35-2 is similar to Len's 37+, except that I just have an A/B/both switch to join two banks of two 6V golf cart batteries each, no start battery. The solar controller is connected via a 30A fuse to the main positive busbar after the A/B switch. There is space for a 3rd bank, but I have removed

Stus-List Batteries etc.

Charlie, I will add to Edd’s post. I have a different system and would suggest you find the closest place to connect to power. Battery, battery switch, ACR or other. You need to make sure the connection is solid, fused and that the wire is appropriately sized. I am running a power share

Stus-List Batteries etc.

Charlie, I will add to Edd’s post. I have a different system and would suggest you find the closest place to connect to power. Battery, battery switch, ACR or other. You need to make sure the connection is solid, fused and that the wire is appropriately sized. I am running a power share

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Charlie, I’m a little confused by “Blue-Sea ACR Switch” — The ACR is a separate component from the battery switch. Since we both have 37/40s, I’ll share my setup, which you may find useful. My batteries are in the starboard settee just opposite the galley sink. I’ve heard of others who have

Stus-List Batteries etc.

I have a a question or two for the battery experts: My set-up is 2 house and 1 start with a Blue-Sea ACR switch which has a start/1 or all switch. I also have a Victron(?) battery monitor that lets me know whats up. Mostly I am at the dock so I have access to AC power but prefer not to leave it

Stus-List Batteries LiFe vs Lipo

] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Batteries LiFe vs Lipo In the forklift business, the traditional way to figure battery life was in the number of discharge cycles. We used to figure

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o 50% discharge. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert Subject: Stus-List Batteries LiFe vs Lipo Matthew, like you I have lead

Stus-List Batteries LiFe vs Lipo

Matthew, like you I have lead cell batteries, Group 27's.pretty much the same usagethey are Great Northern, I think made in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. The batteries are dated 04/2009, so I have had them now ten (10) sailing seasonsand they stay on the boat here over the winter

Stus-List Batteries

When I bought Rebecca Leah in June I knew she needed new batteries, 6 group 31 agm's. The PO told me that the batteries were the same as when he bought her in 2003. Knowing I had to pull up the floor boards to easily access them I waited. Today I pulled out the old ones. They were west marine

Re: Stus-List Batteries all charged up?

You can charge batteries of different capacities together, but you should not discharge them together, at least on a regular basis. I charge my 3XGp31 house bank along with my single Group 24 start battery, but always switch to house when we are settled for the night. Always. Knock on wood, but 19

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should not be overtaxed. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:11 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> Subject: Stus-List Bat

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Chuck — I’m charging two Trojan T105 golf cart batteries in series with my stock alternator; the two batteries combined give a total of 225Ah of capacity, which is more than double what many Group 31 batteries are rated at. No problems at all. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C

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Chuck I was charging two 31s with my 35 amp alternator. When I had problems with my system I put in a 50 amp instead. Non OEM alternators are cheap. I'd rather have 2 house batteries than risk killing one at a time. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via

Stus-List Batteries all charged up?

Bruce, My boatyard says it puts a very heavy load on the alternator to charge both house and starter batteries at the same time using the diesel. Same if you have two house batteries hooked up in parallel. If you've installed a high output alternator on your diesel or have alternate charging

Re: Stus-List Batteries in the cabin. Was Re: Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

Bob — I think you missed the boat reference underneath the C: Irwin 43 “Waterdancer”. I imagine that’s where the batteries live… and the dogs… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Robert Boyer

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G Street via CnC-List Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 9:47 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries in the cabin. Was Re: Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38 Bob — I think you missed the boat reference underneath

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The symptoms are (1) an unexplainable urge to find warm weather, (2) an urge to get off the boat when it snows, and (3) cold feet in the winter. (Just kidding) Life is full of dangers--the biggest one on the highway. How did you manage to fit 5 group 27s under your cabin sole in a C 27? Are

Re: Stus-List Batteries in the cabin. Was Re: Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

Ahmet, Symptoms? Kaboom! During the charging process the same electrical current that is used to charge the batteries also tears the chemical bonds in the water molecules apart. This is know as electrolysis. The result is hydrogen and oxygen gas. All lead acid batteries are subject to

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Ah yes, I missed that...Ok, makes more sense! Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer > On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List > wrote: > > Bob — I think you missed the boat reference underneath the C: Irwin 43 > “Waterdancer”. I imagine that’s where the

Re: Stus-List Batteries in the cabin. Was Re: Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

And the oxygen may actually help :) I know that if you overcharge a battery, or it is a bad battery, you get a sulfur smell. 99% of the time I am running on shore power. The battery voltage oscillates between 12.7 and 14.1 I suspect that most of the charging current goes directly to my consumption

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Waterdancer, although an amazingly good sailor (for a Irwin Center Cockpit) has a a wing keel and a great Yanmar Turbo engine, but functions as a floating apartment. Hence the C 25. Since we are both working, my wife would not be happy to have her home not to be there when she comes back home.

Stus-List Batteries in the cabin. Was Re: Changing weight distribution in Landfall 38

Ok, now I am worried I have 5 group 27 wet cell batteries under my cabin sole. They are not wented. And I live aboard full time with wife and 2 dogs. Am I living dangerously ? I never smelled anything. What are the symptoms ? Ahmet C 25 "Tabasco" Irwin 43 "Waterdancer" Boston, MA On Nov 19, 2015

Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM?

...@dellabarba.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? If you do use AGMs, you need to keep them charged. A mooring without a solar panel is not going to go well. Joel On Friday, February 27, 2015, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List

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As I said before, I am not an AGM fan. If you do decide to use them, Sams Club has group 31 deep cycle AGMs with the Energizer brand label. They are Deka batteries, exact same as West Marine sells, for about 50% of the price. Think they charge around $160 for them. The Sears Diehard Platinum

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If you do use AGMs, you need to keep them charged. A mooring without a solar panel is not going to go well. Joel On Friday, February 27, 2015, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: As I said before, I am not an AGM fan. If you do decide to use them, Sams Club has group

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Barba ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? If you do use AGMs, you need to keep them charged. A mooring without a solar panel is not going to go well. Joel On Friday, February 27, 2015, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote

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*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? If you do use AGMs, you need to keep them charged. A mooring without a solar panel is not going to go well. Joel On Friday, February 27, 2015, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: As I said before, I

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Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Listers, As you know, I’m redoing the electrical systems on the Enterprise (thanks to all

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:* Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:17 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Listers, As you know, I'm redoing the electrical systems on the Enterprise (thanks to all for diagrams and advice). So now comes

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10:38 AM To: CC List; dwight Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Dwight, I think the theory is that the same electroisys that is breaking the molecular bond in the water is breaking the bonds in the sufuric acid resulting in corrosive sulfer gas. Josh On Feb 26, 2015 7

Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM?

I use much the same procedure that Robert described with my wet cell Great Northern batteries (2 six V golf cart and 1 group 24, all deep cycle, group 24 used mostly for starting and backup)...in fact Robert may have started using this procedure after discussing with me...my batteries have

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PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: May I ask which unit? David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:58:45 -0500 To: efran...@mac.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I

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Schillay via CnC-List *Sent:* Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:17 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Listers, As you know, I’m redoing the electrical systems on the Enterprise (thanks to all for diagrams and advice

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for a short period of time. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:17 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Batteries

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[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:16 PM To: CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Josh, I'm leaning towards 4 to 6 (depending on the space available) Trojan T-105s, but am

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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:38 AM To: CC List; dwight Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Dwight, I think the theory is that the same electroisys that is breaking the molecular bond in the water is breaking the bonds in the sufuric acid resulting in corrosive

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Schillay via CnC-List *Sent:* Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:16 PM *To:* CC List *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Josh, I’m leaning towards 4 to 6 (depending on the space available) Trojan T-105s, but am concerned about the maintenance, especially

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:* Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:38 AM *To:* CC List; dwight *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Dwight, I think the theory is that the same electroisys that is breaking the molecular bond in the water is breaking the bonds in the sufuric acid resulting

Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM?

Listers, As you know, I’m redoing the electrical systems on the Enterprise (thanks to all for diagrams and advice). So now comes the question of what type of battery to use in my house bank — Flooded, Sealed or AGM? What do you have on your CC and why do you prefer it?

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I use Delco Voyager maintenance free wet cells, Series 29's. Get 5-7+ years service life. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, As you know, I’m redoing the electrical systems on the

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Quick answer: gel is best and wet cells - golf carts - are by FAR the best for $$$ per amp hour. I do not care for AGM Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:17, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, As you know, I’m redoing the electrical systems

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Edd: We have two Great Northern Group 27 wet cell batteries that are left on board all winter.these two batteries get a full charge late in the Fall and sometimes a short charge (one hour) at 6 amps during the winter and that's it. They have seen 6 sailing seasons, have spent every

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I do want to go with 4-6 golf carts. How often do you need to add water to them? A problem I have is the ability to get to the boat to maintain them during the winter months. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No:

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I was at a point of extremes when I bought 5 AutoZone marine/deep cycle for a total of about $600 and 500Ahrs (~250Ahrs usable without damage). They are the standard maintenance free auto style which can be but are not intended to be watered. For me they were relatively cheap, readily available,

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Edd — +1 on golf cart batteries, specifically the Trojan T105. If your charging system is set up and controlled properly, you shouldn’t have to top them off very often at all. I’ve had a set in my boat for over five years now with no issues, and no apparent drop in capacity. Fred Street --

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Josh, I’m leaning towards 4 to 6 (depending on the space available) Trojan T-105s, but am concerned about the maintenance, especially since I’m kinda cut off from the boat all winter long. Alternatively, I was looking at these AGMs:

Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM?

- Original Message - From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 10:17 AM Subject: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Listers, As you know, I’m redoing the electrical systems on the Enterprise (thanks

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Schillay via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 10:17 AM Subject: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Listers, As you know, I’m redoing the electrical systems on the Enterprise (thanks to all for diagrams and advice). So now comes

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Marek From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:16 PM To: CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Josh, I’m leaning towards 4 to 6 (depending on the space available) Trojan T-105s, but am concerned about the maintenance, especially since

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I would advise an AGM, maybe as the starting battery and for emergencies, simply in case of a knockdown or other rare event. My background with AGMs is from the computer industry were the are used in Uninterruptible Power Supplies ( UPS ). Overall I was not and still am not impressed. The high

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via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:20 PM To: Della Barba, Joe; cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? wet cells can lose up to 10% of charge per month I've seen various outlandish quotes like that on the internet. They are pure BS. As I

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: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Edd, I am not claiming to be an expert, but from what I have read so far, the AGMs might be a costly solution to a somewhat non-existing problem. Check Main Sail’s write ups on batteries (he did a few additional ones recently). If I

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CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:58 PM To: Edd Schillay; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Edd, I am not claiming to be an expert, but from

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: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:29 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? One thing to keep in mind is wet cells can lose up to 10% of charge per month and gels only lose around 1%. For a boat on a mooring or otherwise off shore power this can

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Ed, But it takes only a small panel to provide adequate current to keep them topped off. You will need your alternator when using the batteries for cruising, of course, but sitting on the mooring, even 0.5 - 1 amp is sufficient. That's all I use on Cat's Paw (kept on a mooring); I have a small

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, too I think. I will have to look into that. The old boat didn’t tip that much. *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Heaton via CnC-List *Sent:* Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:20 PM *To:* Della Barba, Joe; cnc-list *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Batteries

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maybe, they did not have the “really good charge controllers”? (-;) From: Frederick G Street Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:18 PM To: Marek Dziedzic ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? And lithium burns really well when exposed to oxygen

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Brown via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:54 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? I had hoped that with the research and work being done on the larger NiCD packs in hybrid cars that marine NiCD wet cells would become more common

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And lithium burns really well when exposed to oxygen and water; not necessarily something I’d want on my boat, until the technology matures a bit. Witness the lithium battery issues on the Boeing planes. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield,

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Keep in mind that most racing rules prohibit use of wet cells for obvious reasons. Knot sure what Maine Sail has to say about defying specific gravity when pinned on a knock down or round down. (I believe most of what Maine Sail has to say, but not all...) Here is another guy in Maine with a more

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Boeing...and Titan, a boat we built several years back had a fire in Antigua in 2011. We no longer install li-ion batteries. Harry Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2015, at 16:18, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: And lithium burns really well when exposed to

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I installed a 50W solar panel last summer to keep batteries topped off at the mooring. I bought one sized to fit the sliding companionway hatch. I ran the wires to a 12v outlet plug near the start panel and from there to a charge controller mounted in the lazarette. I leave it just sitting

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. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed

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May I ask which unit? David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:58:45 -0500 To: efran...@mac.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I installed a 50W solar panel last summer to keep batteries

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com, Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:52:55 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? Battery orientation Ken, Thanks for the link. Great read as most of Maine Sail’s articles are. I am rearranging the batteries in my

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wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:35:06 -0400 From: Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com To: Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com mailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com Cc: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded

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Date: Wed, Feb 25, 2015 20:40To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Subject:Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Flooded, Sealed or AGM? BatteryDoug, So far I have an AGM start battery and a group 29 wet cell along the port engine side.  I purchased the boat with only one battery and no engine installed.   I did get

Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's?

Dwight, where did you buy the batteries?___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:

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Burt — unlike some on the list (Leslie…), I’m NOT a rocket scientist… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com wrote: Pardon me. Sometimes I forget the level of

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: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's? Burt - unlike some on the list (Leslie...), I'm NOT a rocket scientist... :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com

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: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's? To: Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 10:33 AM Burt — unlike some on the list (Leslie…), I’m NOT a rocket scientist…   :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC

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Counts in my book… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Dec 16, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Leslie Paal lpaalc...@yahoo.com wrote: Even he is not a rocket scientist; he just helped to communicate with spacecraft a few million miles

Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's?

I dunno, There are not a lot of 6V golf cart batteries in space last time I checked. Rich Knowles INDIGO LF38 Halifax, NS. On Dec 16, 2014, at 17:45, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Counts in my book… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall

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Gary, where do you locate all those batteries on your 35 MKII? I have two 6V batteries golf cart batteries in series for house supply and 1 group 27 deep cycle 12 V, so about 350 amp hours altogether when fully charged...and I can't find much space on my boat for more than that...only charged

Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's?

Just a quick comment on capacity: Don't forget that when the 6v batteries are connected in series to get 12v you get 1/2 the stated Amp capacity as shown on the batteries specs.. The amount of watts they produce is fixed and since the formula is Volts X Amps = Watts.. If you double the

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Francois — just to clarify: My Trojan T-105s have a rated capacity of 225 amp-hours at 6 volts; put two in series, and you get 225 amp-hours at 12 volts. So you’re not really getting half the capacity; you just can’t double the capacity. Make sense? Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis

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Of Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's? Just a quick comment on capacity: Don't forget that when the 6v batteries are connected in series to get 12v you get 1/2 the stated Amp

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the amp hours is what I look for... IIRC my two 6 V golf cart deep cycles connected in series were rated at 220 amp hours total and my group 27 12 V deep cycle was rated at 135 amp hours...I had to make some interior mods to accomodate the golf cart batteries in their battery boxes...don't know

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of a bank made-up with 12v / 225 amp batteries. 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Ge From: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net To: Jean-Francois J Rivard/Atlanta/IBM@IBMUS, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 12/15/2014 11:26 AM Subject:Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's

Stus-List Batteries -- Where to put the 6V's?

Dwight, Clearly lots of us are using 6vs, so I changed the header to where. . . The previous owner built a plywood box to hold two 6vs under the galley sink. I added a trim piece and raised the front quarterberth panel/nav seat an inch to fit 2 more 6vs there. I have a big 12v starter

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Dwight, I build two epoxy covered plywood battery boxes that fit in the bottom of the lazerettes (port and starboard). It does take up a bit of the precious space but I can run my refrigeration and all the lights on my boat for 3 or 4 days without recharging. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On

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Definitely not true! Two 6 volt 200 AH batteries connected in series will deliver 12 volts at 200 AH. Two 6 volt 200 AH batteries connected in parallel will deliver 6 volts at 400 AH. Gary BSEE ~~~_/)~~ On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List

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/Atlanta/IBM@IBMUS, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 12/15/2014 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's? -- Francois — just to clarify: My Trojan T-105s have a rated capacity of 225 amp-hours at 6 volts; put two in series, and you get 225 amp-hours

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Correct Ohms law From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 4:14 PM To: Jean-Francois J Rivard; CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's? Definitely not true! Two 6 volt 200 AH

Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's?

List Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's? Definitely not true! Two 6 volt 200 AH batteries connected in series will deliver 12 volts at 200 AH. Two 6 volt 200 AH batteries connected in parallel will deliver 6 volts at 400 AH. Gary BSEE

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-List Date:12/14/2014 10:00 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Rick Brass , cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's? Actually, I’ve only got the T105 Trojans; the 20-hour discharge capacity is 225 amp-hours. Still quite a lot for their size. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V

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And doubles as ballast! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:37 PM To: David Risch; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's? I'm late to the conversation but I have

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Rivard via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's? Just a quick comment on capacity: Don't forget that when the 6v batteries are connected in series to get 12v you get 1/2 the stated Amp capacity as shown

Stus-List Batteries -- Anyone use 6V's?

Listers, I know the battery topic has been discharged (pun intended) quite a bit, but I've been hearing about people using chained 6V Golf Cart batteries as a preferred alternate to the Marine 12Vs for the house bank. Has anyone tried this? If so, how many do you use? 4? 6? 8? Any problems?

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Edd: Paws had 6 volts when I purchased her. I replaced them with 12v this past winter. I never really saw any great benefit to using 6v (wire two in series to get 12v). The number you require is dictated by size and capacity desired (like any other bank) but always in groups of 2. They are

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