Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
On Dec 1, 2016 7:54 AM, "Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Renogy is not very honest about output. 50 watts at 12 volts is fuzzy math > for this panel, whose output is really almost 19 volts. Output should be > stated at the working output voltage. That is more

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I am reading the spec sheet. I linked it, you can read it yourself. Do you think they are lying? I sold and installed solar panels and wind generators for some years, I am not unfamiliar with the technology. The panel puts out 250 watts at 29.6 volts and 8.44 amps. Do you think it really puts

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
FYI - If anyone is confused about MPPT vs PWM: http://www.morningstarcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Morningstar-Corporation-Traditional-PWM-vs-TrakStar-MPPT-Whitepaper-March-2015.pdf ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Clearly renogy is providing nominal values for marketing purposes. You can't fit all of the specs in the amazon headline. Josh On Dec 1, 2016 7:54 AM, "Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Renogy is not very honest about output. 50 watts at 12 volts is fuzzy math >

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Right Joe. And if you take their optimum voltage and current. 18.5v*2.7=49.95w which is what an MPPT controller is supposed to attain. Optimum being the key word. Josh On Dec 1, 2016 8:14 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: That is ALL panels. NONE of them

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Michael Cotton via CnC-List
Sun Electric in Miami. The best prices on panels and controllers. I have a 500 watt system. 2 250watt Sharp panels and an Outback MTTP controller. It runs everything except the AC. The panels were .51 cents per watt and the controller was $495. I used 6061-T6 aluminium tubing 2" dia.  The

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
Ohms law supercedes marketing fluff and folklore. Renogy is not as forthcoming as many of it's competitors. No, all panels are not sold to the same standards as Renogy. Can a car manufacturer claim 30 miles per gallon, based on mileage attained without the car's interior installed, and tires

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Not sure I agree. I have never seen solar panels sold at suboptimal power points. I grabbed one random model from the Miami Electrical site someone mentioned and it is no different: http://www.suniva.com/documents/OPTXXX-60-4-100%2008%2009%2012.pdf Max power is 250 watts at 29.6 volts, and max

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Michael, Joe, Josh, Bill - thank you all very much! Ryan ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
In the world of science and mathematics, anecdotes are not not considered data, and data is not knowledge. Believe what you like. :-) Bill Bina On 12/1/2016 9:57 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: Not sure I agree. I have never seen solar panels sold at suboptimal power points. I

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
That is ALL panels. NONE of them provide full power at 12 volts. If you want to see 50 watts, you need a MPPT controller that is essentially a DC-DC converter. Running my cheaper PWM controller I never get the full 50. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
Renogy is not very honest about output. 50 watts at 12 volts is fuzzy math for this panel, whose output is really almost 19 volts. Output should be stated at the working output voltage. That is more like a 30 watt panel when comparing to other brands whose quality factor includes truth. =-O

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
As I said, other companies manage to do it. Renology wants you to think their prices are better than they really are. Fifty watts for eighty dollars? This panel is really 30 watts for 80 dollars if you are comparison shopping. Renogy's competitors would advertise this as a 30 watt panel. You

Re: Stus-List Max Prop 3 blade consternation/confusion.

2016-12-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
When you speek of "play" are you referring to wiggle between the blades, or wiggle on the shaft, or somewhere else? When I grab on blade and hold it still and then attempt to rotate either of the other 2 blades they will rotate +or- ~1/16th of an inch. I've checked this play every time it is

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Ryan pointed out that my link was wrong for the google drive pictures. Sorry guys. Try this one. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yLXU5RzRyWjZXTDA Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com>

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List
I went thru BRJ Solutions here in seattle. His prices matched the on line prices I could find. Brian (owner) helped me design my system, helped touble shoot a bad controllern and had a replacemect withun a few days. Pegasus now is equipped with 2 140watt Solara rigid panels, 2 Gensun mppt

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
Too bad US voters don't live in that world :) (now I'm ducking and running for cover :) Cheers, Randy - Original Message - From: "Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List" To: "cnc-list" Cc: "Bill Bina - gmail" Sent:

Re: Stus-List Max Prop 3 blade consternation/confusion.

2016-12-01 Thread Brian Fry via CnC-List
Josh, There is another C 37/40 in the yard with a Max prop. No play at all in that prop. -- Brian Fry S/V La Neige 1993 C 37/40XL HdG Maryland ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to

Re: Stus-List Max Prop 3 blade consternation/confusion.

2016-12-01 Thread Brian Fry via CnC-List
Thank you for the replies. The shaft taper does not seem to be an issue.I placed the spinner housing on the shaft without the key and with the key. The position of the housing doesn't change at all. The shaft key as you can see in the video is captured wholly within the body of the prop "spinner"

Re: Stus-List speed instrument frustration

2016-12-01 Thread rjcasciato--- via CnC-List
Dennis, a few years ago I did business with a guy, Achilles Youseff...from Chicago Marine Electronics..he was their Nexus guru and had a wide selection of Nexus instruments and partssome scavenged from non working units. See if he's still there Best Ron C. Get

Re: Stus-List Landfall for sale

2016-12-01 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Looks just like my boat — but with the original upholstery… That was one of the first things I changed. Depressing that the sell price is so low… — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:27 AM,

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
https://www.emarineinc.com/ Mike PERSUASION C 37 K/CB Long Sault > On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hey all, > > I'm trying to price out a large solar system and new house battery bank for a > 42' cruiser and I'm curious where fellow

Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels?

2016-12-01 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
This is mine: https://www.amazon.com/Renogy-Watts-Volts-Monocrystalline-Solar/dp/B00DVPPFDS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1480598077=8-1=50+watt+solar+panel 50 watts - $80. I have had no issues at all with it. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion37 via