Caution on a late release of a genoa. The boat has a 155% North 3Di,
which has been raced 13 times. The last race, on the last tack, leeward
crew did a late release, resulting in the spreader punching a hole just
above the spreader patch. Yes, North is going to add a little more
height to
Doug,
If you have an electric pump that has the oil pressure safety switch,
between the (+) on the coil and the elec. fuel pump, I would recommend
you install an bypass switch around the safety switch. I just resolved
that I had an intermittent failure mode in the safety switch that would
Me too (49), she is seeing her age, have to replace original uppers
shrouds and bow & stern stays. Weren't these boats guaranteed for 50
years???
Don Kern
/Fireball,/ C Mk2
Bristol, RI
On 1/25/2023 1:02 PM, Matt Wolford via CnC-List wrote:
I’m just a pup (48).
*From:*Neil Gallagher via
Doug,
Just a note. I also race on a J-30 and the owner's Loos gauge scale had
worn off. He talk to Loos and they had him send back the gauge so they
calibrate then add a new scale.
Don Kern
/Fireball, /C 35 Mk2
Bristol, RI
On 10/19/2022 8:55 PM, Doug Robinson via CnC-List wrote:
YO;
It
Joe,
I believe the Mk1's Mainsheet traveler is just in front of the helm
whereas mine (Mk2) is at the bridge deck (seat) aft of the
companionway. I have changed over to a multi line 4:1 course line and a
4:1 fine trim line which gives me a 16:1 advantage on the fine tune. The
16:1 is a big
Paul
It kind of depends on your track set up. My #4 (~110%) leads outside
the forward lower and inside center upper and aft lower.
Don Kern
/Fireball/, C Mk2
Bristol, RI
On 7/9/2022 1:11 PM, Paul Florin via CnC-List wrote:
On a 35ft C MK II with a 110% genoa, sheets inside or outside
Dan,
Since your boat was once registered in the US as /Rainbow /with a USCG
registration number of 1024202 on Dec 1994 and a HIN of ZCC44001H586 you
could request an "Abstract of a Title" which should provide record of
all the information submitted to the USCG including the chain of
This is what I have for her
C 38 Mk3 9
ZCC38009I586915272 -x Escape
Don Kern
C 35 Mk2
Bristol, RI
On 5/3/2022 3:10 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote:
I heard about this one from a friend. It’s at the marina next to my
club.
The broker is a dumbass from what I understand
Chuck
I believe the new electronic flares are acceptable as long as it carries
the USCG approval stamp. Of course that is the most expensive one available
Don
On 3/29/2022 9:24 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote:
Hi Korbey,
I read that battery operated flares were excellent devices
Stu,
No problem, but I use Thunderbird and have not had problems with the CnC
list
Don Kern
On 3/8/2022 9:43 AM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:
I guess I was wrong. The problems started when I put the cutting board
footer in the emails.
Now we have identified the problem -- it is not with the
Stu
I use Thunderbird as the email client, no problems
Don
On 2/3/2022 1:25 PM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:
From what I am reading, these problems are not across the board.
Individual
email clients, servers, etc. appear to be the culprits.
The archives for the list, are not showing any
C custom logoed kitchen/galley cutting boards are now available at:
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards
Stu
Nope message said 404 Not Found
Don
On 1/26/2022 11:14 AM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:
C custom logoed kitchen/galley cutting boards are now available at:
Dennis,
You are close with the boat you own. Found the 35 mk1 hard to beat. My
boat 35 Mk2 (47 years old) does sail close to her PHRF rating. Unless
we really screw up tactically, (going to wrong side of the course, etc)
she finishes in the the top 5-10% of the class. Family sailed boat
Dave,
Did you change the bottom paint ?
Many years ago I had the eating the anodes problem and what I determined
was the bottom paint was conductive and was setting up hull surface
loops thru the paint. Further I found that all my bronze overboards had
connecting ground wire even though the
let us all know if you're able to find a source.
Danny
On Oct 2, 2021 2:19 AM, Donald Kern via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I went to the web site http://marinehowto.com/bed-it-tape>> that this forum
recommended to purchase a roll of B
There was discussion on teak and what was the best application to
apply. However, on my '74 C Mk2 the exterior trim and handrails
have been bare for the last 10 years (the varnish flacked off). I kind
of like the look of the lightly greyed teak, what are the disadvantages
of not putting a
I went to the web site that this forum
recommended to purchase a roll of Bed-It tape and did not find that the
tape was available. Did /Marine how to/ get out of the Butyl tape
business? Is there a recommended alternate ?
Don Kern
/Fireball,/ C Mk2
Bristol, RI
Thanks to all of the
is switching from PHRF to ORRez.
Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Sep 11, 2021, at 10:17 PM, Donald Kern via CnC-List
wrote:
With the computer power we now have, PHRF can produce Spin,
non-Spin, W/L and Random (around the buoys) ratings. There are also
formulas to adjust
With the computer power we now have, PHRF can produce Spin, non-Spin,
W/L and Random (around the buoys) ratings. There are also formulas to
adjust the rating given wind conditions (low, med, and high) which can
be applied pre or post race. And Time-on-Distance (ToD) or Time-on-Time
(ToT)
At one time we use to set the triangle and run the boats around the
triangle, then windward leeward (beat, reach, reach, beat, downwind).
That course always seemed better for different generation boats since it
involved all points of sail.
Now if the organizer sets a W/L course the lightweight
Peter
My 35 has a SS mushroom vents similar to what Defender carries (Vetus
Mushroom Vent (PORTOS1)). Racing with spray coming onto cabin top they
are screwed down to prevent water entry. Cruising they are lifted to
vent, but being a RI boat we don't have extreme hot weather. They have
Dave,
Wed night beer can racing for me to!
Don Kern
Fireball, C 35 mk2
Bristol RI
Commodore PHRF-NB
On 6/30/2021 11:15 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:
Wed night beer can racing for me to! Dave
David Knecht
Rear Commodore
Thames Yacht Club
New London, CT
On Jun 30, 2021, at 11:10 AM,
Shawn, My new holding tank is located on centerline below the v-berth.
It was the largest I could fit through the aft access after removing the
covers support pieces. A little bit more plumbing lines required, a
further forward than I like, but it is pumped out before racing for free
-
Like Shawn's boat mine is also C 35 Mk2 (1974), but there is no
indications of deck straps ever being installed. Two years ago I
removed the failed holding tank from its outboard location behind the
outboard mahogany paneling. This required removing most of the head
cabinetry, all of which
from C Sailboat Owners Group discussion- Mine is also off right now, a
gross and fine tune Harkin sheeting system, but interestingly have still
have the original Mk2 set up with movable pin stops and no traveler
block and tackle. Use the secondary cockpit winch with a single line to
the
Stu
any day except Mon & Tue are good for me.
Don
On 2/25/2021 11:33 AM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:
Looks like a real toss-up for Tues or Wed. How about Thurs or Friday?
Stay safe and healthy
Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the
costs involved. If
Stu
Wednesday OK for me.. I have a Dave Perry racing on Tuesday
Don
On 2/25/2021 9:15 AM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:
Is anyone interested in a virtual Zoom rendezvous next week – say Tues
or Wed nite?
Stay safe & healthy
Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
Chuck is absolutely correct, different PHRF have different rating
adjustments. Do pull up the rating adjustments for the PHRF area you
are in when making significant investments on a boat.
On Narragansett Bay we review our rules/rating adjustment yearly and
changes are published and voted
Being a graduate of Annapolis I was familiar/use the common nautical
terms of overhead, deck, bulkhead, ladder, lines, head (much to my
wife's ridicule at home). When working for Raytheon doing radar and
collision avoidance instructions, i did find an interesting anomaly
aboard a 1000' Great
Dan
Have you look closely near the top, stb'd, outboard side of the
transom. My 1974 35 carries her HIN there, there was no plaque
installed. The HIN was mandated in 1972 so you should have it there
unless the transom was damage or you have many coats of paint that
filled it in. HIN can
Forwarded Message
Subject:Re: Stus-List 1979 C 34: why hangers on thru-deck mast
fitting?
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 10:13:03 -0400
From: Donald Kern
To: Glen Eddie via CnC-List
Glen
I believe the MK1 and the Mk2 were set up the same. Check the mast,
Jeff
No capstan on the 35'. We carry two anchors on Fireball, both
Danforths; a small <20 lb and a heavy >35 lb. Both we store vertically
in the cockpit side locker. The small one we uses for anchoring at
lunch time where we are with the boat or racing when the wind dies and
we sneak it
Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I/*
*/www.dellabarba.com/*
*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of
*Donald Kern via CnC-List
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2020 11:36 AM
*To:* Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
*Cc:* Donald Kern
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40
Chuck,
Good demonstration of what happens when you decide to sail a smaller
boat thru the lee of a bigger boat. Especially dead downwind with a
A-chute and the bigger has a symmetric chute. Unless the A-chute was
in restricted water or closing the mark they should have been maxing
their
Jeff,
A 40' is a big boat. I own a 35' and have sailed and cruised 40' and
38' C Unless the boat is set up for two you will be spending some
money so it will be manageable by two. Because I sail on Narragansett
Bay the wind (except mid Jul to mid Aug) comes in every afternoon at 12
to 15
Do not go up the mast no more, that's for my son (52 yrs). All my
winches are the original Barients. Since /Fireball /is sitting in my
yard (too many COVI 19 restrictions in RI) I have pulled my primaries
(28s) and secondaries (26) to overhaul. I need to get the drums sand
blasted in
Interesting, /Fireballs/ offshore crew commutes from Dallas TX and are
ardent racers on the Viper 830, ages: two in 50s and one early 40s.
Beside lake races they do Charleston and Harvest Moon (Galveston to Port
Aransas).
Don Kern
/Fireball/ C Mk2
Bristol RI
On 7/15/2020 9:11 AM, Dreuge via
Jim
You got me. Will be 77 in Nov.
Don Kern
Fireball C MK2
Bristol RI
On 7/14/2020 10:04 PM, detroito91 via CnC-List wrote:
77...might be the old winner
Jim Schwartz
SEA YA !
38 landfall
Washington nc
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Joel
Glen,
I can speak to the 35 Mk2 and I believe was he same stove for the Mk1.
It is a pressurized alcohol with the alcohol tank being mounted on the
forward bulkhead of the cockpit locker.
Don Kern
/Fireball /C&35 Mk2
Bristol, RI
On 7/10/2020 9:04 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List wrote:
Does
Dave,
Your estimate is a little dated. Below is an A estimate (Mar 2020) to
refurbish the original forward hatch (A model XR300) on 1974 C 35 Mk2:
Labor- $250
1/2” lens - $500
Gasket - $55.65
Seals for through hardware - $65
Polishing anodizing $200
Total $1070.65
Shipping back and forth is
David,
Thanks,
Never saw that piece of insight. I have no idea how accurate the 47
year old backstay gage is. Those are relative settings that feel
right. Have not folded the boat in half nor driven the mast thru the
keel - yet!
Don Kern
/Fireball,/ C Mk2
Bristol RI
On 6/10/2020 10:38
Since my boat has a modified rig I get all my sails locally, so the loft
can measure and advise on the boat. I do realize that the sail may not
be built at the local loft, but not in China. I try to stay away from
things manufactured in China, it is hard, but I do try.
Don Kern
/Fireball/ C
Barry,
Thanks for the vote of confidence and yes I am well aware of R JMS -
been seeing way too much of her transom !! Drop by the boat, we will be
in Mitchell Park Marina for the Fall Off Soundings flying a large Texas
flag due to my son boarding Fireball with his Viper 830 crew from
Randy,
Most PHRF rating organizations will adjust (negatively) your rating for
adding a tack point forward of the "J" measurement of the boat. You may
receive a credit for both a retrofit application and due to a smaller
sail area for a spinnaker - depends on the rating rules for your PHRF
On my ol' C 35 mk2 with a shorten boom my traveler is still mounted on
the thwart seat just aft of the companionway. It carries a 4:1
gross-trim for most trimming (cruising) and the 16:1 fine-tuning
(racing) with control done by two fiddle blocks with cam cleats (fine &
gross) mounted to the
David
What I found with mine is to to turn it 180, reversing the direction of
paddle rotation. That works about 75% of the time, then it is a pull
and clean.
Don Kern
/Fireball /C 35 Mk2
Bristol RI
On 4/13/2020 11:32 AM, David Risch via CnC-List wrote:
My paddle wheel fouls if you just
e: 248 930-7949
thanks for your effort with the list
Tony
*From:* CnC-List on behalf of Donald
Kern via CnC-List
*Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 11:39 PM
*To:* Will Gerstmyer via CnC-List
*Cc:* Donald Kern
*Subject:* Re:
My boat also came with Velcro on the overhead which became unsightly.
Took it off and removed the glue. Replaced the original with fabric
screen from the hardware store and cut it so it lapped over the outside
edge of hatch combing. Put a hem by folding over and using double sided
fabric
Edd,
On Narragansett Bay almost all the clubs use Gov't marks augmented by
RC/YC dropped marks for their courses. If a mark starts drifting or the
USCG pulls a gov't mark the race is normally abandoned. Narragansett bay
East passage is defined by the USCG as a "Narrow Channel" and therefor
Will,
Here is a list of some forty-four C 41s that participate in the forum
or do PHRF races. If you have any additional data on 41s I would like
to incorporate into my list.
Don Kern
Fireball C 35 Mk2
Bristol RI
On 2/29/2020 8:49 PM, Will Gerstmyer via CnC-List wrote:
Hi. I can find
Rod
I have attached an extracted list of the C 99s that have come up on
the cnc-list or PHRF fleet listings, etc. The list I have, started
about three years ago when I was interested in C owners on how long
they owned their C (Brand loyalty). It now has a little over 1350 C
boats. On the
don't pass the leak test,
I will look at going with the marinebeam LED units.
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com <mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com>
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:23 PM Donald Kern via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-li
Shawn,
Where did you get the bulb holders for the original hull "eye" lights?
Mine need replacing and have not found a source.
Don Kern
Fireball C 35 mk2
Bristol RI
On 2/4/2020 11:06 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
Sorry, a bit confusing. Yes, I have two sets of bow lights - the
original
David
I have a Hood Vectron main that I bought for racing in 2007. It is now
my cruising sail and still has reasonable shape and would recommend it.
A J30 skipper was so impressed with it that he bought one for cruising
(Vectron was not class legal for racing on a J30). However, since the
Mine fell apart as you described. Burnished the top edge and epoxy the
face back on a couple of years ago. Still holding together and operating.
Don Kern
Fireball C 35 mk2
On 1/15/2020 5:22 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List wrote:
Hi all; I took the gauge panel apart to see why the fuel gauge
Shawn,
Did the marna forget to look below and pump out the 2 1/2 tons of water
that was up to the v-berth ??
Don
Fireball C 35 Mk2
On 12/16/2019 6:55 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
I was told by the crane operator that my 35-2 weighed 19,000 lbs at
haulout, which seems a bit excessive,
David
PHRF ratings in Narr Bay are done on the apparent design performance of
specific class variants (Mk-1, Mk-2, dk, cb, tm, etc} and then any of
the boat's modifications that are shown on that boats PHRF application
(weight reduction, sail areas, etc.) This is compared to other boats
Peter,
per se, I do not use a winter cover. However, I did have the topside of
the boat newly shrink wrapped this fall. The is the second shrink wrap
cover I have done. The first shrink wrap cover was 10 years old and had
gotten a little tired and duct tape patched. For four years the boat
Being on the Narragansett Bay PHRF Rating Committee I can state that we
do review boat performance regularly (monthly meetings).I did not
realize how difficult it is to rate boats ranging from the latest
high-performance racers to 1919 Herreshoff S class boats.The committee
consist of sailing
Yes, I have always disconnected the accumulator so it will drain out the
bottom. The one time i forgot it cracked and had to be replaced. Also
all my water lines can be opened for draining at their lowest point,
just in forward of the engine.
Don Kern
Fireball C Mk2
Bristol, RI
On
Dwight
i believe you are good. I also have a C MkII with the same cockpit
drain set up, which I believe is the factory setup. The seacocks are
always in the open position, whether boat is in or out of the water.
Since I haul the boat every fall, one of the items on my checklist in
the
Josh,
Had the same problem on my C Mk2 with a slight leak on a jib track.
We pulled the bolts fore and aft of where the water was coming thru on
the headliner and forced silicon sealer into each bolt from topside by
holding a wood peg against the reinforcement bar. (a C has a bar
under the
Kern
Fireball C Mk2
Bristol, RI
On 12/7/2018 10:36 PM, Donald Kern via CnC-List wrote:
Been there, done that!
In the two instances was after racing, running home (both times 5 hour
of sailing), crew relaxing with beers, helmsman being not that
experienced. Each time dug the pole into the ocean
Been there, done that!
In the two instances was after racing, running home (both times 5 hour
of sailing), crew relaxing with beers, helmsman being not that
experienced. Each time dug the pole into the ocean. First time bent the
pole's closing pin at the mast and bent the mast fitting, both
Alan, I find that my 35 Mk2 is sensitive to crew forward of the mast,
thus the only time I like to have crew forward of the mast is for sail
set ups and sail changes. Thus in spinnaker take down I have one person
in cabin and two hauling the chute down. Normal racing crew is 6 or 7.
Also
Brian
If you are going to circle the bay after Dutch I would consider stopping
in Greenwich Bay, then go north around the top of Prudence down to
Bristol. There are two Potter Cove in Narragansett bay one north of the
Newport Bridge which is open to NE winds and the other is across from
The original forward hatch on my C 35 Mk2 (1974) has a few problems
besides crazing, in that both of the aft hinges have crack in the
castings and one of the dogs now leaks. I have been unable to take
apart the latching dog to try to replace what must be a O-ring failure.
Has any one
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