Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding
Thanks for all the replies - I'll look into the acid options locally. As for the welding - I think my best bet is to suck it up - remove the rear pulpit and take it into a shop for welding. The broken weld is right at one of the deck anchors so it would be tough not to damage the boat. Plus then they could properly repair the crappy weld job the mobile guy did -- I don't think he used stainless for the core. Thanks, Mark There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 2015-08-18 1:00 AM, Russ Melody via CnC-List wrote: Hi Mark, I use phosphoric acid ~ 50% and a "scotchbrite" pad to clean up rust stains. I think the principle ingredient of CLR is a dilute version of what I use so it might take more time. Scrubbing with the pad acid defiantly speeds things up, allowing you to rinse in less time than a soak. Any significant heat treatment (welding) on S/S will affect it's protective oxide layer. To restore the affected area we use a "pickling paste" which is just a fancy name for a really strong acid thickened enough to hang almost vertical for a while doing it's job. Copious amounts of water is recommenced to be on hand to get rid of it. The best welding process for anything that cannot be removed from the boat is shielded gas, TIG or MIG, not a fluxed electrode. A tad more expensive but a much better job and no splatter clean-up. If you have to go other and with any grinding keep the decks wet, water flowing, around the work area. This will prevent hot stuff sticking to soft stuff. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 12:48 PM 17/08/2015, you wrote: Last year I had noticed a small crack in my rear pulpit tubing. This spring before launch I hired a mobile welder to come out to the boat repair the area - he had a tough time with the wind swirling and had to repeatedly grind down the dirty weld to do it over. The final repair was adequate (pretty rough - but sealed the crack and seemed solid). Unfortunately a few weeks later I discovered a million little rust stains in the gel coat. We tried to scrub them out with Comet - but mostly just brightened up the gel coat. CLR didn't seem to do much - maybe a longer soak? Any suggestions on cleaning? I'm wondering about doing a bit of a white wash with stain to see if that will clean them. Now the area he repaired is showing some signs of rust - obviously he welded with steel and that is rusting. I had another weld that gave way (a lower bracket on the rear pulpit) - and I'd rather avoid repeating the same issue. Not sure how close to fiberglass they can safely weld - removing the whole rear pulpit wouldn't be a fun process, but likely smart to get it done properly. Any specific questions I should be asking of a stainless welder? Recommendations in Halifax area? I'm also wanting to build a small arch for a solar panel - maybe integrated right into the rear pulpit Mark CS 30 - Prosecco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding
I think hou are on the right track. You will get a better job. I can do welding but when my stern pulpit need work I took it in. They did a much better job than I could have done. Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding
Just a thought, When I did my major refit, I made mounting plates that matched those on the rear pulpit, welded studs onto the plates that poked through the plates and were threaded on both ends. Those plates then become permanently attached to the boat. Then I just pushed the pulpit over the studs and put acorn nuts on, so it is a very simple operation of removing 8 nuts to remove the pulpit - Bill Coleman CC 39 Erie, PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar Subject: Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding Thanks for all the replies - I'll look into the acid options locally. As for the welding - I think my best bet is to suck it up - remove the rear pulpit and take it into a shop for welding. The broken weld is right at one of the deck anchors so it would be tough not to damage the boat. Plus then they could properly repair the crappy weld job the mobile guy did -- I don't think he used stainless for the core. Thanks, Mark There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 2015-08-18 1:00 AM, Russ Melody via CnC-List wrote: Hi Mark, I use phosphoric acid ~ 50% and a scotchbrite pad to clean up rust stains. I think the principle ingredient of CLR is a dilute version of what I use so it might take more time. Scrubbing with the pad acid defiantly speeds things up, allowing you to rinse in less time than a soak. Any significant heat treatment (welding) on S/S will affect it's protective oxide layer. To restore the affected area we use a pickling paste which is just a fancy name for a really strong acid thickened enough to hang almost vertical for a while doing it's job. Copious amounts of water is recommenced to be on hand to get rid of it. The best welding process for anything that cannot be removed from the boat is shielded gas, TIG or MIG, not a fluxed electrode. A tad more expensive but a much better job and no splatter clean-up. If you have to go other and with any grinding keep the decks wet, water flowing, around the work area. This will prevent hot stuff sticking to soft stuff. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 12:48 PM 17/08/2015, you wrote: Last year I had noticed a small crack in my rear pulpit tubing. This spring before launch I hired a mobile welder to come out to the boat repair the area - he had a tough time with the wind swirling and had to repeatedly grind down the dirty weld to do it over. The final repair was adequate (pretty rough - but sealed the crack and seemed solid). Unfortunately a few weeks later I discovered a million little rust stains in the gel coat. We tried to scrub them out with Comet - but mostly just brightened up the gel coat. CLR didn't seem to do much - maybe a longer soak? Any suggestions on cleaning? I'm wondering about doing a bit of a white wash with stain to see if that will clean them. Now the area he repaired is showing some signs of rust - obviously he welded with steel and that is rusting. I had another weld that gave way (a lower bracket on the rear pulpit) - and I'd rather avoid repeating the same issue. Not sure how close to fiberglass they can safely weld - removing the whole rear pulpit wouldn't be a fun process, but likely smart to get it done properly. Any specific questions I should be asking of a stainless welder? Recommendations in Halifax area? I'm also wanting to build a small arch for a solar panel - maybe integrated right into the rear pulpit Mark CS 30 - Prosecco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding
I'd be careful with any abrasive products. They'll eventually wear off the gelcoat. The only abrasive I would even suggest for gelcoat is AquaBuff 2000. It's a polishing compound. It will smooth and polish gelcoat but is still lightly abrasive. I used to use SoftScrub with bleach but decided that was too abrasive. Now I use Scrubbing Bubbles Foaming Bleach. Does an awesome job removing mildew. Not sure how it would work on rust stains. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Barkeeper's Friend. Available at Canadian Tire. I swear by this stuff. (it's acid based, forget which acid, but I've been using it on my gelcoat for years on two boats). Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:01 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I think hou are on the right track. You will get a better job. I can do welding but when my stern pulpit need work I took it in. They did a much better job than I could have done. Doug Mountjoy svPegasus LF38 just west of Ballard, WA. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding
Barkeeper's Friend. Available at Canadian Tire. I swear by this stuff. (it's acid based, forget which acid, but I've been using it on my gelcoat for years on two boats). Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:01 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I think hou are on the right track. You will get a better job. I can do welding but when my stern pulpit need work I took it in. They did a much better job than I could have done. Doug Mountjoy svPegasus LF38 just west of Ballard, WA. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Around here, Bar Keeper's Friend is not found at marine supply stores, but most food stores carry it like Shop Rite, Acme, etc. It is found near the other kitchen cleaning products. There is a powder in a can (like Ajax) and a liguid creme in a tube. Good stuff that has been made for 100 years. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:35:02 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding Barkeeper's Friend. Available at Canadian Tire. I swear by this stuff. (it's acid based, forget which acid, but I've been using it on my gelcoat for years on two boats). Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:01 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I think hou are on the right track. You will get a better job. I can do welding but when my stern pulpit need work I took it in. They did a much better job than I could have done. Doug Mountjoy svPegasus LF38 just west of Ballard, WA. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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From Wikipedia: Unlike some other abrasive cleaning products, such as Comet and Ajax, Bar Keepers Friend uses oxalic acid as its primary active ingredient. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Aug 18, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Barkeeper's Friend. Available at Canadian Tire. I swear by this stuff. (it's acid based, forget which acid, but I've been using it on my gelcoat for years on two boats). Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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homemade oxalic acid rust stain remover or this: http://ca.binnacle.com/product_info.php?products_id=1083 Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Last year I had noticed a small crack in my rear pulpit tubing. This spring before launch I hired a mobile welder to come out to the boat repair the area - he had a tough time with the wind swirling and had to repeatedly grind down the dirty weld to do it over. The final repair was adequate (pretty rough - but sealed the crack and seemed solid). Unfortunately a few weeks later I discovered a million little rust stains in the gel coat. We tried to scrub them out with Comet - but mostly just brightened up the gel coat. CLR didn't seem to do much - maybe a longer soak? Any suggestions on cleaning? I'm wondering about doing a bit of a white wash with stain to see if that will clean them. Now the area he repaired is showing some signs of rust - obviously he welded with steel and that is rusting. I had another weld that gave way (a lower bracket on the rear pulpit) - and I'd rather avoid repeating the same issue. Not sure how close to fiberglass they can safely weld - removing the whole rear pulpit wouldn't be a fun process, but likely smart to get it done properly. Any specific questions I should be asking of a stainless welder? Recommendations in Halifax area? I'm also wanting to build a small arch for a solar panel - maybe integrated right into the rear pulpit Mark CS 30 - Prosecco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding
Hi Mark, I use phosphoric acid ~ 50% and a scotchbrite pad to clean up rust stains. I think the principle ingredient of CLR is a dilute version of what I use so it might take more time. Scrubbing with the pad acid defiantly speeds things up, allowing you to rinse in less time than a soak. Any significant heat treatment (welding) on S/S will affect it's protective oxide layer. To restore the affected area we use a pickling paste which is just a fancy name for a really strong acid thickened enough to hang almost vertical for a while doing it's job. Copious amounts of water is recommenced to be on hand to get rid of it. The best welding process for anything that cannot be removed from the boat is shielded gas, TIG or MIG, not a fluxed electrode. A tad more expensive but a much better job and no splatter clean-up. If you have to go other and with any grinding keep the decks wet, water flowing, around the work area. This will prevent hot stuff sticking to soft stuff. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 12:48 PM 17/08/2015, you wrote: Last year I had noticed a small crack in my rear pulpit tubing. This spring before launch I hired a mobile welder to come out to the boat repair the area - he had a tough time with the wind swirling and had to repeatedly grind down the dirty weld to do it over. The final repair was adequate (pretty rough - but sealed the crack and seemed solid). Unfortunately a few weeks later I discovered a million little rust stains in the gel coat. We tried to scrub them out with Comet - but mostly just brightened up the gel coat. CLR didn't seem to do much - maybe a longer soak? Any suggestions on cleaning? I'm wondering about doing a bit of a white wash with stain to see if that will clean them. Now the area he repaired is showing some signs of rust - obviously he welded with steel and that is rusting. I had another weld that gave way (a lower bracket on the rear pulpit) - and I'd rather avoid repeating the same issue. Not sure how close to fiberglass they can safely weld - removing the whole rear pulpit wouldn't be a fun process, but likely smart to get it done properly. Any specific questions I should be asking of a stainless welder? Recommendations in Halifax area? I'm also wanting to build a small arch for a solar panel - maybe integrated right into the rear pulpit Mark CS 30 - Prosecco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding
The heat of welding will change the physical properties of stainless, so he may (probably did) use stainless rod but it's now less stainless. You could try repassivating it with a product called Wichinox. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|2303285|2303294id=1819274 Davis FSR will remove the rust stains. If you want to use just the active ingredient, it's oxalic acid. You can buy it as Wood Bleach at hardware stores. I'm not sure muriatic acid would be appropriate here. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 17 August 2015 at 13:03, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Muriatic acid will get ride of the rust stains. Sudbury Hull Cleaner contains it. My rigger welded my pushpit, but he is in Annapolis. Not sure what he used for welding rod. Joel 35/3 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Last year I had noticed a small crack in my rear pulpit tubing. This spring before launch I hired a mobile welder to come out to the boat repair the area - he had a tough time with the wind swirling and had to repeatedly grind down the dirty weld to do it over. The final repair was adequate (pretty rough - but sealed the crack and seemed solid). Unfortunately a few weeks later I discovered a million little rust stains in the gel coat. We tried to scrub them out with Comet - but mostly just brightened up the gel coat. CLR didn't seem to do much - maybe a longer soak? Any suggestions on cleaning? I'm wondering about doing a bit of a white wash with stain to see if that will clean them. Now the area he repaired is showing some signs of rust - obviously he welded with steel and that is rusting. I had another weld that gave way (a lower bracket on the rear pulpit) - and I'd rather avoid repeating the same issue. Not sure how close to fiberglass they can safely weld - removing the whole rear pulpit wouldn't be a fun process, but likely smart to get it done properly. Any specific questions I should be asking of a stainless welder? Recommendations in Halifax area? I'm also wanting to build a small arch for a solar panel - maybe integrated right into the rear pulpit Mark CS 30 - Prosecco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding
Muriatic acid will get ride of the rust stains. Sudbury Hull Cleaner contains it. My rigger welded my pushpit, but he is in Annapolis. Not sure what he used for welding rod. Joel 35/3 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Last year I had noticed a small crack in my rear pulpit tubing. This spring before launch I hired a mobile welder to come out to the boat repair the area - he had a tough time with the wind swirling and had to repeatedly grind down the dirty weld to do it over. The final repair was adequate (pretty rough - but sealed the crack and seemed solid). Unfortunately a few weeks later I discovered a million little rust stains in the gel coat. We tried to scrub them out with Comet - but mostly just brightened up the gel coat. CLR didn't seem to do much - maybe a longer soak? Any suggestions on cleaning? I'm wondering about doing a bit of a white wash with stain to see if that will clean them. Now the area he repaired is showing some signs of rust - obviously he welded with steel and that is rusting. I had another weld that gave way (a lower bracket on the rear pulpit) - and I'd rather avoid repeating the same issue. Not sure how close to fiberglass they can safely weld - removing the whole rear pulpit wouldn't be a fun process, but likely smart to get it done properly. Any specific questions I should be asking of a stainless welder? Recommendations in Halifax area? I'm also wanting to build a small arch for a solar panel - maybe integrated right into the rear pulpit Mark CS 30 - Prosecco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Rust stains and welding
FSR, fiberglass stain remover. Takes out trusts stain. Use on my Florida, sorry to say, power boat. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater, Mi On the inland sea. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Monday, August 17, 2015 Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Last year I had noticed a small crack in my rear pulpit tubing. This spring before launch I hired a mobile welder to come out to the boat repair the area - he had a tough time with the wind swirling and had to repeatedly grind down the dirty weld to do it over. The final repair was adequate (pretty rough - but sealed the crack and seemed solid). Unfortunately a few weeks later I discovered a million little rust stains in the gel coat. We tried to scrub them out with Comet - but mostly just brightened up the gel coat. CLR didn't seem to do much - maybe a longer soak? Any suggestions on cleaning? I'm wondering about doing a bit of a white wash with stain to see if that will clean them. Now the area he repaired is showing some signs of rust - obviously he welded with steel and that is rusting. I had another weld that gave way (a lower bracket on the rear pulpit) - and I'd rather avoid repeating the same issue. Not sure how close to fiberglass they can safely weld - removing the whole rear pulpit wouldn't be a fun process, but likely smart to get it done properly. Any specific questions I should be asking of a stainless welder? Recommendations in Halifax area? I'm also wanting to build a small arch for a solar panel - maybe integrated right into the rear pulpit Mark CS 30 - Prosecco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Citric acid @ 20% Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The heat of welding will change the physical properties of stainless, so he may (probably did) use stainless rod but it's now less stainless. You could try repassivating it with a product called Wichinox. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|2303285|2303294id=1819274 Davis FSR will remove the rust stains. If you want to use just the active ingredient, it's oxalic acid. You can buy it as Wood Bleach at hardware stores. I'm not sure muriatic acid would be appropriate here. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 17 August 2015 at 13:03, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Muriatic acid will get ride of the rust stains. Sudbury Hull Cleaner contains it. My rigger welded my pushpit, but he is in Annapolis. Not sure what he used for welding rod. Joel 35/3 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Last year I had noticed a small crack in my rear pulpit tubing. This spring before launch I hired a mobile welder to come out to the boat repair the area - he had a tough time with the wind swirling and had to repeatedly grind down the dirty weld to do it over. The final repair was adequate (pretty rough - but sealed the crack and seemed solid). Unfortunately a few weeks later I discovered a million little rust stains in the gel coat. We tried to scrub them out with Comet - but mostly just brightened up the gel coat. CLR didn't seem to do much - maybe a longer soak? Any suggestions on cleaning? I'm wondering about doing a bit of a white wash with stain to see if that will clean them. Now the area he repaired is showing some signs of rust - obviously he welded with steel and that is rusting. I had another weld that gave way (a lower bracket on the rear pulpit) - and I'd rather avoid repeating the same issue. Not sure how close to fiberglass they can safely weld - removing the whole rear pulpit wouldn't be a fun process, but likely smart to get it done properly. Any specific questions I should be asking of a stainless welder? Recommendations in Halifax area? I'm also wanting to build a small arch for a solar panel - maybe integrated right into the rear pulpit Mark CS 30 - Prosecco ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com