Thanks for the reply. I still, however, cant figure out how to get a
hello world working on a
clean war without all of the other crap in the cocoon war.
Robert,
It seems you really have two requirements for Cocoon:
1) learning how to create a simple Cocoon app;
2) learning how to build a
For what it's worth, I walked through the steps for building the minimal war
he was looking for on Saturday, sent him the binary war (5 meg) and posted
the steps on the wiki. He's already written a first custom generator that
connects to his ejbs and seems much happier now. He's started to refer
For what it's worth, I walked through the steps for building the minimal
war he was looking for on Saturday, sent him the binary war (5 meg) and
posted the steps on the wiki. He's already written a first custom
generator that connects to his ejbs and seems much happier now. He's
started to
-Original Message-
From: Hunsberger, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:43 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your
dilemma
For what it's worth, I walked through the steps for building the
Hunsberger, Peter wrote:
Yes, I saw that. I'm only now catching up with the 280 e-mails I had
this morning: that's what I get for being off-line all weekend; new
baby girl at home, who has time for computers :-)
Congrats!
/Steven
--
Steven Noels
First of all, I generally agree with you Robert.
1. Cocoon is overly daunting at first sight.
2. MS get you going much faster.
3. Separation between User and Developer must be stronger.
4. Point-Click deployment tools should become a priority.
There are a few things I don't agree with;
1. I
First off I made some suggestions to your
questions/problems below...skip ahead if you don't
want my commentary on Cocoon.
Well it seems to me that when I started with Cocoon, I
was hoping to jump right on in. Unfortunately, it was
not that easy, but not b/c of Cocoon, rather my
limited
Great. Thanks for the information. However the questions are still thick as pea soup.
If I don't want to deploy all the cocoon jars in my war, I have to put them somewhere.
It has been suggested that I put them in the
tomcat lib directory. Ok fine, then how does one configure it?
My goal is to
I am with cocoon for about three months now and i remember
my own frustrations when i started as a newbie. From this
thread and other emails within this list and from my personal
experience with cocoon i conclude:
1.) cocoon gains high (initial) attraction (many newbies questions)
2.) cocoon is
Thanks for the reply. I still, however, cant figure out how to get a hello world
working on a clean war without all of the other
crap in the cocoon war. The configuration file is just plain staggering to say the
least. And looking at some pages that use cocoon,
I'm starting to have second
depending on what you are doing with cocoon, you get
quite amazing performance due to caching. My website
is completely done in XML and using cocoon. and its
almost as performant as with ordinary html. I was
really amazed when i saw this although the site is super
simple... http://www.saxess.de
I
Robert Simmons wrote:
know. The Wiki page runs very slow for me and a tutorial linked to me
again: _what_ Wiki are you referring to? If it's
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/, please quantify how slow, so that I can get
a grip on it. That Wiki is built using plain JSP taglibs, BTW. Nothing
to do
You really does dont want the help people give you:
Please just click here:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Tutorials
and you will be ready after 3 hours. Please read just the 1st tutorial
from IBM developerworks.
Antonio Gallardo.
Robert Simmons dijo:
No professional dev wants, or has the time, to blow 2 to
three weeks just to get separation of logic and presentation.
How you think a Professional developer do that? I ended my Master Degree
in Computer Science in 1995 just before Java hits the streets and Windows
95 was
Try to follow the instructions at the following page I just created:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CreateMinimalWebapp
Ignore the comments obviously geared at making this part of the build (and
possibly part of the release.)
You'll need a source distribution of Cocoon 2.0.4, which I
Robert Simmons dijo:
No professional dev wants, or has the time, to blow 2 to
three weeks just to get separation of logic and presentation.
How you think a Professional developer do that? I ended my Master Degree
in Computer Science in 1995 just before Java hits the streets and Windows
95
Hi Robert -
Ok, my turn to weigh in.
First off, one first principle about any technology is that it's
usability and suitability are largely subjective. Over the years, I have
found that many technologies - JSP, EJBs, PHP, Perl/CGI, ActiveX, etc. -
can work great if YOU like them and know how
Hi Robert -
Ok, my turn to weigh in.
First off, one first principle about any technology is that it's
usability and suitability are largely subjective. Over the years, I have
found that many technologies - JSP, EJBs, PHP, Perl/CGI, ActiveX, etc. -
can work great if YOU like them and know
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