David Reid wrote:
file://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
With a few notable exceptions, for example:
http://www.apache.org/~fielding/
http://www.apa
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
3. should there be a list of them?
4. should a list be mandatory or opt-in only?
5. is it an
--On Sunday, December 1, 2002 6:01 PM -0500 Rodent of Unusual Size
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
5. is it an all-or-nothing proposition (everyone has them or no-one
does)?
-1. someone tries to force its opinion on me about how i may
choose to express myself and describe my participation in the asf,
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Victor J. Orlikowski wrote:
Apache is about two things, as I see it: primarily, software and,
as a consequence of that software, people.
I see it exactly the other way around. Great communities always create
great software. The opposite is not always true (see sourceforge
Sam Ruby wrote:
My opinions exactly match Ken's below.
Same here.
- Sam Ruby
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
3. should there
> it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
Big suprise.
> 1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
> 2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
> 3. should there be a list of them?
> 4. should a list be mandatory or opt-in only?
> 5. is it an all
> On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 05:50 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> > Sam Ruby wrote:
> >> Ben Hyde wrote:
> file://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
> >>>
> >>> I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
> >>> hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case wi
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 05:50 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
//www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
With a few notabl
My opinions exactly match Ken's below.
- Sam Ruby
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
3. should there be a list of them?
4. shoul
I've attempted to enumerate some of my concerns about a suite of
community pages. I gather that people see benefit in such pages. I
want to be clear that I'm note deaf to those arguments, just
unconvinced of those benefits.
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 04:39 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Th
it looks like several issues are getting conflated again.
1. should people be permitted to have/publish *.apache.org/~name pages?
2. should they follow any sort of guidelines?
3. should there be a list of them?
4. should a list be mandatory or opt-in only?
5. is it an all-or-nothing proposition (e
Victor J. Orlikowski wrote:
Apache is about two things, as I see it: primarily, software and,
as a consequence of that software, people.
I see it exactly the other way around. Great communities always create
great software. The opposite is not always true (see sourceforge).
--
Stefano Mazzocchi
Sam Ruby wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
//www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
With a few notable exceptions, for example:
http://www.apache.org/~fielding/
or
h
Ben Hyde wrote:
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 04:28 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Wow.. I really do feel like I'm at the Congress of Vienna.
huh? (and yes I know what the congress of vienna was).
conservatives sat on the left and the more liberal sat on the left
(hence where the terms "right" an
On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 03:13:26PM -0600, B. W. Fitzpatrick wrote:
> I think you're missing the point here. Regardless of the verbiage
> used, if this whole community thing comes to fruition, it becomes a de
> facto representation of the face of the Apache community.
>
Indeed - all projects wit
Ben Hyde wrote:
I'm concerned that a few highly vocal members might generate the
impression that the foundation is taking positions that it's not.
I would be much more concerned about committers having @apache.org
mailing list addresses.
I hope people aren't using except when they are acting in a
Ben Hyde wrote:
//www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
With a few notable exceptions, for example: http://www.apache.org/~fielding/
- Sam Ruby
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 04:28 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Wow.. I really do feel like I'm at the Congress of Vienna.
huh? (and yes I know what the congress of vienna was).
It keeps coming back down to this:
open (we sit on the left)
closed (you sit on the right)
and it really keeps being
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Ben Hyde wrote:
> > //www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
>
> I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
> hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
> example. - ben
But then again - I am quite happy with the ~dirkx usage for unoff
//www.apache.org/foundation/members.html
I'd be more comfortable if the individual committer pages were
hosted outside the apache.org domain, as is the case with this
example. - ben
Sander Striker wrote:
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 December 2002 16:34
Yeah.. I'm confused...what does ANY of the issues brought up have to do
with creating the dns entry? It seems some folks are voting/debating
the home directories themselves. Those are already th
Sam Ruby wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that
all apache homepages will be hosted at
http://community.apache.org/~name
That page should be hosted on your "public_html" directory on your
cvs.apache.org account (all committers have on
Ben Hyde wrote:
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 06:04 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
'community.apache.org' web site.
-1
Uh, thanks Ben. That helped a lot understanding the reasons behind
your negative vote.
My prior post regarding this enthusiasm follows...
Ok, cool. See my commen
I think you're missing the point here. Regardless of the verbiage
used, if this whole community thing comes to fruition, it becomes a de
facto representation of the face of the Apache community.
FWIW, I'm -1 on the whole thing. I'm here to help grow a community
around open-source software, not a
Sander Striker wrote:
Which is simply not the case if not all committers and members are
represented
on there.
Here is an effort that I made last year http://cvs.apache.org/~rubys/
Here is much move visually appealing and more maintained version:
http://www.apache.org/~jim/committers.html
Would
Ben Hyde wrote:
I'm concerned that a few highly vocal members might generate the
impression that the foundation is taking positions that it's not.
I would be much more concerned about committers having @apache.org
mailing list addresses.
- Sam Ruby
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >"These are the homepages and voices of the Apache Community. These
> >pages represent the committers and members of the Apache Software
> >Foundation."
> >
> >Which is simply not the case if not all committers and members are represent
> ed
> >o
--On Sunday, December 1, 2002 1:53 PM -0500 Rodent of Unusual Size
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ick to what? its existence, or the format? :-)
Its existence and the fact that Andy is on a campaign to get Google
to pick up on it. -- justin
"These are the homepages and voices of the Apache Community. These
pages represent the committers and members of the Apache Software
Foundation."
Which is simply not the case if not all committers and members are represented
on there.
Lets find a nit and pick it.
"These are the homepages a
> From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 December 2002 19:43
> Sander Striker wrote:
>>
>>> http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
>>> certainly transformable into a more 'official' process.
>>
>> Should've seen that one comming. However, you h
André Malo wrote:
>
> yep. But I don't understand the general problem. What about a simple
>
>
> ServerName community.apache.org
> Userdir community
> # or similar
>
>
> instead of the weird dot files, subdirs of public_html, redirects etc?!
that works iff you know someone's username on
* Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> considering that.. making this an opt-in by checking for a .publish file
> might be a better approach. that way, anyone who wants to be listed
> has to take an explicit step to make it happen, rather than being listed
> without necessarily even knowing about it.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
>
> --On Sunday, December 1, 2002 12:55 PM -0500 Rodent of Unusual Size
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
> > certainly transformable into a more 'official' process.
>
> Oh, ick. -- justin
ick to what? it
"Andrew C. Oliver" wrote:
>
> If Ken puts a little more description on the page, the keywords should
> get picked up by google. My blog seems to be well regarded by google.
i'd rather address the issue of those people who use their directories
for non-about-me stuff first.. there. anyone who *d
Sander Striker wrote:
>
> > http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
> > certainly transformable into a more 'official' process.
>
> Should've seen that one comming. However, you have to know what to
> look for to find ~coar/people.html, on icarus nonetheless. It isn't
> l
--On Sunday, December 1, 2002 12:55 PM -0500 Rodent of Unusual Size
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sander Striker wrote:
Right now the homepages aren't linked to from anywhere and
certainly not promoted.
http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
certainly transformable into a mor
I'll see what I can do about that :-)
How about now:
http://www.freeroller.net/page/acoliver/20021201#people_at_apache
If Ken puts a little more description on the page, the keywords should
get picked up by google. My blog seems to be well regarded by google.
Ken I suggest some
> From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 December 2002 18:56
> Sander Striker wrote:
>>
>> Right now the homepages aren't linked to from anywhere and certainly
>> not promoted.
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
> certainly transformable
Sander Striker wrote:
>
> Right now the homepages aren't linked to from anywhere and certainly
> not promoted.
http://cvs.apache.org/~coar/people.html>, updated nightly, and
certainly transformable into a more 'official' process.
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 December 2002 16:34
> Yeah.. I'm confused...what does ANY of the issues brought up have to do
> with creating the dns entry? It seems some folks are voting/debating
> the home directories themselves. Those are already there and I as
Yeah.. I'm confused...what does ANY of the issues brought up have to do
with creating the dns entry? It seems some folks are voting/debating
the home directories themselves. Those are already there and I assume
that decision was already made. I suppose you could propose they be
shut down, bu
On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 06:04 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ben Hyde wrote:
'community.apache.org' web site.
-1
Uh, thanks Ben. That helped a lot understanding the reasons behind
your negative vote.
My prior post regarding this enthusiasm follows...
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Sam Ruby wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that
all apache homepages will be hosted at
http://community.apache.org/~name
That page should be hosted on your "public_html" directory on your
cvs.apache.org account (all committers have on
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I would like to propose the creation of such a virtual host so that all
apache homepages will be hosted at
http://community.apache.org/~name
That page should be hosted on your "public_html" directory on your
cvs.apache.org account (all committers have one, unlike www.ap
Ben Hyde wrote:
'community.apache.org' web site.
-1
Uh, thanks Ben. That helped a lot understanding the reasons behind your
negative vote.
Several things were put on the table:
1) potential non-asf-ralated material
2) content imposition
3) fact -> vote
4) -1 without reason
5) automatic redir
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