Re: Man, it's quiet here

2002-10-26 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: This is a symptom of having certain constituency that fails the basic UNIX literacy test. So ssh'ing to a UNIX box and creating a .forward file is difficult. solution: Solution is that when a new person is voted for committership, they are

Re: committers repos (was: ASF Membership Nomination)

2002-10-30 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Greg Stein wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 12:50:59AM +1100, David Crossley wrote: ... What about using CVS for this? Can only committers checkout the committers module? (I see that it is not available via ViewCVS.) Yes, the committers repos is only available to

Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: VOTE 1: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read this mail list thru a web archive? [ X ] +1 yes, let's make it readable [ ] 0 don't know/don't care [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private

Re: @apache web pages

2002-11-12 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Yes. and no. Las Vegas is way too far for my travel budget this year :( I'll have to wait for the next Europe ApacheCon. I hope thats not spaced too close together... Next May in London please :) Actually no, early June. I'll be at a

Re: The Apache Jakarta Law (Scientific?)

2002-11-12 Thread Henri Yandell
First time I've ever seen it discussed. Was an interesting discussion for a while until I hit the point of: Okay, go write this up on a webpage so it makes sense. On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: The Apache Jakarta Law: Any discussion regarding Apache Jakarta will eventually

RE: @apache web pages

2002-11-14 Thread Henri Yandell
-Original Message- From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:06 PM To: community@apache.org Subject: @apache web pages someone (andy?) started a trend of setting up personal First I know of was jstrachan's:

Re: suggestion for news...

2002-11-16 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Not meaning to embarrass anyone, but I suggest not writing news on any news pages like this: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#1106.1 The Commons CLI team is proud to announce Commons CLI 1.0, the first official release of this Commons

Re: [ot] domain registrars

2002-12-19 Thread Henri Yandell
www.godaddy.com has looked good to me [some customers use it], the price was cheap and the central management seemed useful the one time I went and used it for them. I use www.dots-r-us.com, another Tucows reseller and my only complaint there is that the renewal system is poor. I have to buy a

Re: ASF Colocation proposal

2003-01-29 Thread Henri Yandell
Hmm. There was another site selling them, which had rather poor user feedback: http://www.copyleft.net/item.phtml?page=product_966_front.phtml Ken's is: http://apache-server.com/store.html Others: http://apache.covalent.net/store/t.php http://geekt.org/geekt/comment.cgi?newsid=1197 Hen On

Re: ASF Colocation proposal

2003-01-29 Thread Henri Yandell
So when will there be a Jakarta t-shirt available? :) Hen On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Erik Abele wrote: Martin van den Bemt wrote: I believe Ken has a shop for that stuff already (thought I found the shop via his site at least) http://apache-server.com/store.html

Re: [poll] weblog package on apache.org

2003-01-31 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 07:07 AM, David Reid wrote: I agree that providing a forum where news can be made available for projects in an easier to find location is a good thing and soemthing we should aim to provide, but I'm

Re: Ant buildfiles - best practices for Apache projects

2003-02-04 Thread Henri Yandell
Sounds like you're describing maven and centipede to me. At least in terms of their dependency abilities. Hen On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Joerg Pietschmann wrote: Hi, I think its time to get gather some best practices for setting up Ant buildfiles. Let me start with a story. I thought I'll

Re: primary distribution location

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Conor MacNeill wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Conor, I expect that people are worried about the viral implications of LGPL, I'm worried about it :) If it's LGPL, I can use it at work, but I can't release any code that imports from the LGPL'd jar. And with RMS' 99

RE: primary distribution location

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: It will typically have import statements - something like: import lgpl.sshlibrary.Thingy; Thank you very much for this explanation. It should help explain to authors why we are asking them to provide their LGPL code under a different open

Re: licensing review

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Serge Knystautas wrote: Certainly we need an official reading on this, but Classpath is specifically licensed as GPL, the least compatible open-source license out there (not even a murkier LGPL). The Classpath author adds an addendum to allow bundling of this library

Re: Free java profiler tools for open source projects?

2003-03-13 Thread Henri Yandell
I believe the only one was RefactorIt. At least, that's the main one I remember from the discussion and the one whose licence file I have sitting in my home dir :) Hen On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Steven Noels wrote: Hi, I remember a thread on 'some' ASF list about the availability of a number of

Re: CVS and Subversion

2004-06-11 Thread Henri Yandell
Two biggest problems I forsee with subversion: 1) Website needs to be in SVN, else we'll still need accounts for everyone who wants to modify their site annd do releases. Are the SVN based projects taking an approach that handles this? Will it? 2) Tagging is clumsy. (I may just not be seeing it

Re: Do we have a jobs list?

2004-07-07 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Niclas Hedhman wrote: Why can't the PMC be responsible if the committers are the one the place the stuff (I see that all 'content' goes into CVS/SVN). Perhaps some PMC members are happy to spend their time verifying job

Re: failure notice

2004-07-08 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Aye. Thanks a ton. By the way, can I suggest it that -- if your team (infrastructure team) would have conducted *critical* infrastructural affairs, could you please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list to notify those changes? infrastructure@ is

Re: apache swag

2004-07-15 Thread Henri Yandell
I've ordered a simple t-shirt and a long sleeved t-shirt (http://www.cafeshops.com/osjava) and am happy with the quality. Had them for a year or so and they've survived frequent wear and laundry without problem. Hen On 15 Jul 2004, David N. Welton wrote: Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL

Re: Python anybody?

2004-07-15 Thread Henri Yandell
While I'm not highly into python (I like whitespace idea, but knowledge of perl stops me getting too much beyond reading the O'Reilly books), perhaps this would be a way to experiement with the non-project technology focused communities that were talked about a couple of years ago. The one that

Re: Inexpensive Lists (was: Re: Python anybody?)

2004-07-21 Thread Henri Yandell
Do you have the same feelings for [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems to me that members@ is akin to a community-dev list, while community@ is akin to a community-users list. Any reason to keep members@ should exist for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree that MS Patent stuff is boring and unnecessary on a

Re: Inexpensive Lists (was: Re: Python anybody?)

2004-07-22 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Wednesday, July 21, 2004 6:22 PM -0400 Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: list. Go read groklaw. However, discussions on whether a python community should exist seem to be perfectly designed for the community list (unless

Re: IDE licenses

2004-09-22 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Felipe Leme wrote: - some people said MyEclipseIDE (MEIDE, for short) is not necessary, as there are OSS-equivalent tools for all its tasks. I used to think so I know it's gone over to PRC, but one question I'd like to ask is what MyEclipseIDE gives Apache developers.

Re: IDE licenses

2004-09-22 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Felipe Leme wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 02:13, Henri Yandell wrote: I don't know of Apache projects using Struts, EJBs, Hibernate, JSF; instead we create these systems. First, AFAIK we don't create JSF JFYI, http://incubator.apache.org/projects

Re: private mailing list for committers

2004-10-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Santiago Gala wrote: What would be the advantages? The only advantage I can think of is that many hypothetical conversations on members@ that want to be private would be able to include committers. Every now and then I see an email that says We should discuss this on

Re: Open Source, Cold Shoulder (fwd)

2004-10-08 Thread Henri Yandell
I'm really not very impressed with the article. The gender issue just confuses things and they provide a perfectly rational reason for why the gender difference exists (in the same way that there's an age, nationality, education level, career-path bias to open-source). The only solution is more

Clover licence for Apache

2004-10-20 Thread Henri Yandell
Hopefully everything will soon be go on having a Clover licence for all Apache Java projects: http://www.cenqua.com/clover/ One such example of an ASF project already using Clover is Geronimo: http://geronimo.apache.org/modules/security/clover/ Part of the licence will be a restriction on which

Re: Page of mailing list data

2004-10-26 Thread Henri Yandell
Looks good Ken. The # of moderators would be good to have on there, even better would be the apache logon of the moderators. For the first statistical report, could you specify what the collection period was? Thanks, Hen On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: Page of mailing list data

2004-11-04 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Henri Yandell wrote: The # of moderators would be good to have on there, even better would be the apache logon of the moderators. I don't see why.. that information is already available to committers, and I'm

Clover licence for ASF

2004-11-15 Thread Henri Yandell
to get you to change. It's just to save the rest of us effort :) Henri Yandell Jakarta VP = Instructions for use with Maven: 1) Put the .license file in your .maven/repository/clover/jars directory. 2) Put the following two lines

Re: Is ASL2.0 not GPL-compatible ??

2004-12-20 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Monday 20 December 2004 23:54, Joshua Slive wrote: Niclas Hedhman wrote: Does anyone know, and preferably have any authorative-like links ?? http://www.apache.org/licenses/ http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html thanks!!! Of far more

Re: Is ASL2.0 not GPL-compatible ??

2004-12-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Tuesday 21 December 2004 00:02, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html The Jini technology is going Open Source and I think that is great, and even though I tried hard, it will not be under a ASL2.0 license,

Re: [Info] Jini goes OSS.

2005-01-20 Thread Henri Yandell
All sounds great but the open sourcing of the spec confuses me. How exactly is that going to work? Has anyone open-sourced a spec before? Will the official version of the Jini spec remain within the JCP? Hen On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Niclas Hedhman wrote: FWIW, Sun have decided to put the Jini

SVN migration race to 2006

2005-08-21 Thread Henri Yandell
Congratulations to Web Services(11) for dropping down to only 11 modules to go; their strategy of steadily plugging away at a module at a time has dropped Tomcat(12) and XML(12) into last place. Mark Thomas' 5-step plan for Tomcat threatens to leave XML in its dust, so can the federation

Re: At what point do you unsubscribe/deny a misbehaving user?

2005-12-16 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Jean T. Anderson wrote: Below are links to public responses to some of his posts (which are numerous enough that they alone would be frustrating to wade through): http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-user/200508.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Question on sending email to PMCs ?

2006-04-06 Thread Henri Yandell
My personal opinion is that PMCs exist for internal discussion - so if the foundation wants all communities to know something, they would mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] So depends if the below is an internal or an external news item. Formally, you'd send this over to the prc@ and they'd decide if

Re: How do projects sign up for Google Summer of Code -- 2006 ?

2006-04-15 Thread Henri Yandell
Join [EMAIL PROTECTED] From my basic understanding, we have a couple of weeks to get our ideas/proposals up at the google site, and that's the mailing list where we'll be bringing all the ideas together (I presume in an improved variant of the method used last year on that list). Hen On

Re: End user code contributions to asf wikis

2006-04-28 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Jean T. Anderson wrote: A user just posted an example -- with code -- to the Derby wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DatabaseManager My first reaction is delight that a user has energy to do this. My second reaction is to wonder about licensing issues. Jira upload

SVN server problems (fwd)

2006-05-10 Thread Henri Yandell
Spreading the word a bit. -- Forwarded message -- From: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 10, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: SVN server problems To: Apache Infrastructure [EMAIL PROTECTED] Putting an email on the infra list to provide an update (from a spectator's point of view

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On 6/28/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the ASF Members have indicated a wish to draft a code of conduct. A working draft of a set of Community Guidelines is available on the incubator wiki, * http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CodeOfConduct Any comments would be very welcome.

Re: Grassroots PR

2007-07-06 Thread Henri Yandell
On 7/6/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Husted wrote: Perhaps it's time [we] encourage development of a Roller zone where our PMC's can post easy-to-aggregate announcement blogs. These would not be individual blogs as we have on PlanetApache.org, but PMC blogs that would

Re: Geek book collectors

2008-02-07 Thread Henri Yandell
Can't recommend http://www.delicious-monster.com/ enough btw, if you have OS X :) Let's you mix the book geek and tech geek in you. Hen On Feb 7, 2008 7:28 AM, Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, folks. The response was immediate and overwhelming. I think he's got enough to round out

Re: [apachecon] Meet the developers corner

2009-05-25 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin rdon...@apache.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, Here's an idea I came up with for the proposed Content/Web Technology track in ApacheCon US 2009: We'd reserve and mark a table or a

Dinner at OSCON

2009-07-23 Thread Henri Yandell
If any of you committers are at OSCON, feel free to meet up for dinner at Gordon Biersch [7:30pm]: http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safarioe=UTF-8ie=UTF8q=gordon+biersch+san+josefb=1split=1gl=usei=wo5oSoT6FIqOMeyE8c8Mll=37.334774,-121.888571spn=0.001147,0.001725z=19iwloc=A Hen

Re: Dinner at OSCON

2009-07-23 Thread Henri Yandell
Just converge. On Thursday, July 23, 2009, Sander Temme san...@temme.net wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: If any of you committers are at OSCON, feel free to meet up for dinner at Gordon Biersch [7:30pm]: http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safarioe=UTF-8ie=UTF8q

Re: [OpenPGP] Moving Away From DSA and SHA-1

2009-08-11 Thread Henri Yandell
Need to update http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing.html to say 4096 asap I suspect :) Stop new people being lured into this problem. Hen On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Robert Burrell Donkinrdon...@apache.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 with ApacheConUS only

Re: MySQL/Roller

2009-10-22 Thread Henri Yandell
Chances are this is out of date with modern MT and Roller, but here's how I did it many years back: http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/mt_to_roller_migration On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata tets...@apache.org wrote: Now I would like to know how to retrieve the

Re: Returned post for committ...@apache.org

2010-01-27 Thread Henri Yandell
I question the labeling of Cobertura as our dogfood and Clover as not our dogfood. Which is 'our dogfood', the GPL product or the proprietary product built on top of permissively licensed Open Source (not that I know if Clover is like this; but I've heard the same argument against JIRA)? Do we

Re: Returned post for committ...@apache.org

2010-01-27 Thread Henri Yandell
project) On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Henri Yandell hyand...@gmail.com wrote: I question the labeling of Cobertura as our dogfood and Clover as not our dogfood. Which is 'our dogfood', the GPL product or the proprietary product built on top of permissively licensed Open Source (not that I

A community page

2010-07-22 Thread Henri Yandell
I'd like to propose that the following page is something the Community list could be thinking of improving: http://www.apache.org/foundation/getinvolved.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org For

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Henri Yandell
I've not seen any studies. I have a slightly different view as developing is only part of what I do nowadays... so I'll share it/bore you with it :) The source isn't the only part, Open applies to a lot more in your standard OSS project: * I like that I can identify solutions and bugs through a

Re: Liberal corporate open source policies

2011-03-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 09:22:57PM +, Ross Gardler wrote: This is an interesting question. I was recently asked to help with exactly this issue and I also struggled. Perhaps we might consider working up an

Re: PhD Research in Open Source Software

2011-04-22 Thread Henri Yandell
Hopefully the grad knows it's been done already (OSS + CMM). https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Open_Source_Maturity_Model https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/QSOS On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Antonio Gallardo anto...@apache.org wrote: Hi Folks, I know we usually

Re: Activity in Apache

2012-03-24 Thread Henri Yandell
Why don't we have a committers IRC channel? The members one is useful, and I don't see that 3000 is some unfeasible number. There are more than 3000 Tomcat users but the Tomcat channel isn't insane. Hen On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: The ASF

Re: Activity in Apache

2012-03-24 Thread Henri Yandell
irc.freenode.net #asfcommitters Added it to my autojoin list. Hen On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Henri Yandell bay...@apache.org wrote: Why don't we have a committers IRC channel? The members one is useful, and I don't see that 3000 is some unfeasible number. There are more than 3000

Re: Low level community

2014-06-29 Thread Henri Yandell
+1 to the decoupling part. The bigger the bump to join in, the less people will join. Other important items imo: * What is the value of your project? Is it valuable? Who is it valuable to? What is the larger community it is related to and what are the trends in that community? Are you also

Re: Government License

2014-07-01 Thread Henri Yandell
Closest I've seen in the 'free' area is licensing that forbids military uses. Hen On Monday, June 30, 2014, McGovern, James james.mcgov...@hp.com wrote: Has anyone ever explored creation of a license model that forbids the Federal Government in using its software? For example, you may want

Re: Government License

2014-07-02 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:24 AM, David Welton dav...@dedasys.com wrote: Closest I've seen in the 'free' area is licensing that forbids military uses. Which is, once again, neither 'free software' nor open source because it goes against the definition. You can't have it both ways: you

Re: Political Candidate Relations

2014-07-02 Thread Henri Yandell
I think that's the wrong question. We're (mostly) a bunch of programmers and know sod all about governance (much as each/most of us will happily expound on what we think we know :) ). I imagine however that many of us would happily offer up some time to hear about the problems that government