On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
This is a symptom of having certain constituency that fails the basic
UNIX literacy test. So ssh'ing to a UNIX box and creating a .forward
file is difficult.
solution:
Solution is that when a new person is voted for committership, they are
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Greg Stein wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 12:50:59AM +1100, David Crossley wrote:
...
What about using CVS for this? Can only committers
checkout the committers module? (I see that it is
not available via ViewCVS.)
Yes, the committers repos is only available to
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
VOTE 1: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
this mail list thru a web archive?
[ X ] +1 yes, let's make it readable
[ ] 0 don't know/don't care
[ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Yes. and no. Las Vegas is way too far for my travel budget
this year :(
I'll have to wait for the next Europe ApacheCon.
I hope thats not spaced too close together...
Next May in London please :) Actually no, early June. I'll be at a
First time I've ever seen it discussed. Was an interesting discussion for
a while until I hit the point of: Okay, go write this up on a webpage so
it makes sense.
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
The Apache Jakarta Law:
Any discussion regarding Apache Jakarta will eventually
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Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:06 PM
To: community@apache.org
Subject: @apache web pages
someone (andy?) started a trend of setting up personal
First I know of was jstrachan's:
On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Not meaning to embarrass anyone, but I suggest not writing news on any
news pages like this:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#1106.1
The Commons CLI team is proud to announce Commons CLI 1.0, the first
official release of this Commons
www.godaddy.com has looked good to me [some customers use it], the price
was cheap and the central management seemed useful the one time I went and
used it for them.
I use www.dots-r-us.com, another Tucows reseller and my only complaint
there is that the renewal system is poor. I have to buy a
Hmm. There was another site selling them, which had rather poor user
feedback:
http://www.copyleft.net/item.phtml?page=product_966_front.phtml
Ken's is: http://apache-server.com/store.html
Others:
http://apache.covalent.net/store/t.php
http://geekt.org/geekt/comment.cgi?newsid=1197
Hen
On
So when will there be a Jakarta t-shirt available? :)
Hen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Erik Abele wrote:
Martin van den Bemt wrote:
I believe Ken has a shop for that stuff already (thought I found the shop
via his site at least)
http://apache-server.com/store.html
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Aaron Bannert wrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 07:07 AM, David Reid wrote:
I agree that providing a forum where news can be made available for
projects
in an easier to find location is a good thing and soemthing we should
aim to
provide, but I'm
Sounds like you're describing maven and centipede to me.
At least in terms of their dependency abilities.
Hen
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Joerg Pietschmann wrote:
Hi,
I think its time to get gather some best practices for setting up Ant
buildfiles.
Let me start with a story. I thought I'll
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Conor MacNeill wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Conor,
I expect that people are worried about the viral implications of LGPL,
I'm worried about it :) If it's LGPL, I can use it at work, but I can't
release any code that imports from the LGPL'd jar.
And with RMS' 99
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
It will typically have import statements - something like:
import lgpl.sshlibrary.Thingy;
Thank you very much for this explanation. It should help explain to authors
why we are asking them to provide their LGPL code under a different open
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Serge Knystautas wrote:
Certainly we need an official reading on this, but Classpath is
specifically licensed as GPL, the least compatible open-source license
out there (not even a murkier LGPL). The Classpath author adds an
addendum to allow bundling of this library
I believe the only one was RefactorIt. At least, that's the main one I
remember from the discussion and the one whose licence file I have sitting
in my home dir :)
Hen
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Steven Noels wrote:
Hi,
I remember a thread on 'some' ASF list about the availability of a
number of
Two biggest problems I forsee with subversion:
1) Website needs to be in SVN, else we'll still need accounts for everyone
who wants to modify their site annd do releases. Are the SVN based
projects taking an approach that handles this? Will it?
2) Tagging is clumsy. (I may just not be seeing it
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Why can't the PMC be responsible if the committers are the one the place the
stuff (I see that all 'content' goes into CVS/SVN).
Perhaps some PMC members are happy to spend their time verifying job
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
Aye. Thanks a ton. By the way, can I suggest it that --
if your team (infrastructure team) would have conducted
*critical* infrastructural affairs,
could you please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
to notify those changes?
infrastructure@ is
I've ordered a simple t-shirt and a long sleeved t-shirt
(http://www.cafeshops.com/osjava) and am happy with the quality.
Had them for a year or so and they've survived frequent wear and laundry
without problem.
Hen
On 15 Jul 2004, David N. Welton wrote:
Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL
While I'm not highly into python (I like whitespace idea, but knowledge of
perl stops me getting too much beyond reading the O'Reilly books), perhaps
this would be a way to experiement with the non-project technology focused
communities that were talked about a couple of years ago.
The one that
Do you have the same feelings for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems to me that members@ is akin to a community-dev list, while
community@ is akin to a community-users list. Any reason to keep members@
should exist for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree that MS Patent stuff is boring and unnecessary on a
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On Wednesday, July 21, 2004 6:22 PM -0400 Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
list. Go read groklaw. However, discussions on whether a python community
should exist seem to be perfectly designed for the community list (unless
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Felipe Leme wrote:
- some people said MyEclipseIDE (MEIDE, for short) is not necessary, as
there are OSS-equivalent tools for all its tasks. I used to think so
I know it's gone over to PRC, but one question I'd like to ask is what
MyEclipseIDE gives Apache developers.
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Felipe Leme wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 02:13, Henri Yandell wrote:
I don't know of Apache projects using Struts, EJBs, Hibernate, JSF;
instead we create these systems.
First, AFAIK we don't create JSF
JFYI,
http://incubator.apache.org/projects
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Santiago Gala wrote:
What would be the advantages?
The only advantage I can think of is that many hypothetical conversations
on members@ that want to be private would be able to include committers.
Every now and then I see an email that says We should discuss this on
I'm really not very impressed with the article.
The gender issue just confuses things and they provide a perfectly
rational reason for why the gender difference exists (in the same way that
there's an age, nationality, education level, career-path bias to
open-source). The only solution is more
Hopefully everything will soon be go on having a Clover licence for all
Apache Java projects:
http://www.cenqua.com/clover/
One such example of an ASF project already using Clover is Geronimo:
http://geronimo.apache.org/modules/security/clover/
Part of the licence will be a restriction on which
Looks good Ken.
The # of moderators would be good to have on there, even better would be
the apache logon of the moderators.
For the first statistical report, could you specify what the collection
period was?
Thanks,
Hen
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
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Henri Yandell wrote:
The # of moderators would be good to have on there, even better would be
the apache logon of the moderators.
I don't see why.. that information is already available to committers,
and I'm
to get you to change. It's just to save the rest of us effort :)
Henri Yandell
Jakarta VP
=
Instructions for use with Maven:
1) Put the .license file in your .maven/repository/clover/jars directory.
2) Put the following two lines
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Monday 20 December 2004 23:54, Joshua Slive wrote:
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Does anyone know, and preferably have any authorative-like links ??
http://www.apache.org/licenses/
http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
thanks!!!
Of far more
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tuesday 21 December 2004 00:02, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
The Jini technology is going Open Source and I think that is great, and even
though I tried hard, it will not be under a ASL2.0 license,
All sounds great but the open sourcing of the spec confuses me. How
exactly is that going to work? Has anyone open-sourced a spec before?
Will the official version of the Jini spec remain within the JCP?
Hen
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
FWIW,
Sun have decided to put the Jini
Congratulations to Web Services(11) for dropping down to only 11 modules
to go; their strategy of steadily plugging away at a module at a time has
dropped Tomcat(12) and XML(12) into last place.
Mark Thomas' 5-step plan for Tomcat threatens to leave XML in its dust, so
can the federation
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
Below are links to public responses to some of his posts (which are numerous
enough that they alone would be frustrating to wade through):
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-user/200508.mbox/[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
My personal opinion is that PMCs exist for internal discussion - so if the
foundation wants all communities to know something, they would mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So depends if the below is an internal or an external news item. Formally,
you'd send this over to the prc@ and they'd decide if
Join [EMAIL PROTECTED] From my basic understanding, we have a couple
of weeks to get our ideas/proposals up at the google site, and that's the
mailing list where we'll be bringing all the ideas together (I presume in
an improved variant of the method used last year on that list).
Hen
On
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
A user just posted an example -- with code -- to the Derby wiki:
http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DatabaseManager
My first reaction is delight that a user has energy to do this.
My second reaction is to wonder about licensing issues. Jira upload
Spreading the word a bit.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: May 10, 2006 6:15 PM
Subject: SVN server problems
To: Apache Infrastructure [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Putting an email on the infra list to provide an update (from a
spectator's point of view
On 6/28/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some of the ASF Members have indicated a wish to draft a code of
conduct. A working draft of a set of Community Guidelines is
available on the incubator wiki,
* http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CodeOfConduct
Any comments would be very welcome.
On 7/6/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ted Husted wrote:
Perhaps it's time [we] encourage development of a Roller zone where
our PMC's can post easy-to-aggregate announcement blogs. These
would not be individual blogs as we have on PlanetApache.org, but PMC
blogs that would
Can't recommend http://www.delicious-monster.com/ enough btw, if you
have OS X :)
Let's you mix the book geek and tech geek in you.
Hen
On Feb 7, 2008 7:28 AM, Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, folks. The response was immediate and overwhelming. I think he's
got enough to round out
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
rdon...@apache.org wrote:
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Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
Here's an idea I came up with for the proposed Content/Web Technology
track in ApacheCon US 2009:
We'd reserve and mark a table or a
If any of you committers are at OSCON, feel free to meet up for dinner
at Gordon Biersch [7:30pm]:
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safarioe=UTF-8ie=UTF8q=gordon+biersch+san+josefb=1split=1gl=usei=wo5oSoT6FIqOMeyE8c8Mll=37.334774,-121.888571spn=0.001147,0.001725z=19iwloc=A
Hen
Just converge.
On Thursday, July 23, 2009, Sander Temme san...@temme.net wrote:
On Jul 23, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
If any of you committers are at OSCON, feel free to meet up for dinner
at Gordon Biersch [7:30pm]:
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safarioe=UTF-8ie=UTF8q
Need to update http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing.html to say
4096 asap I suspect :) Stop new people being lured into this problem.
Hen
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Robert Burrell
Donkinrdon...@apache.org wrote:
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with ApacheConUS only
Chances are this is out of date with modern MT and Roller, but here's
how I did it many years back:
http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/mt_to_roller_migration
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata tets...@apache.org wrote:
Now I would like to know how to retrieve the
I question the labeling of Cobertura as our dogfood and Clover as not
our dogfood.
Which is 'our dogfood', the GPL product or the proprietary product
built on top of permissively licensed Open Source (not that I know if
Clover is like this; but I've heard the same argument against JIRA)?
Do we
project)
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Henri Yandell hyand...@gmail.com wrote:
I question the labeling of Cobertura as our dogfood and Clover as not
our dogfood.
Which is 'our dogfood', the GPL product or the proprietary product
built on top of permissively licensed Open Source (not that I
I'd like to propose that the following page is something the Community
list could be thinking of improving:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/getinvolved.html
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To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscr...@apache.org
For
I've not seen any studies. I have a slightly different view as
developing is only part of what I do nowadays... so I'll share it/bore
you with it :)
The source isn't the only part, Open applies to a lot more in your
standard OSS project:
* I like that I can identify solutions and bugs through a
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 09:22:57PM +, Ross Gardler wrote:
This is an interesting question. I was recently asked to help with
exactly this issue and I also struggled.
Perhaps we might consider working up an
Hopefully the grad knows it's been done already (OSS + CMM).
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Open_Source_Maturity_Model
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/QSOS
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Antonio Gallardo anto...@apache.org wrote:
Hi Folks,
I know we usually
Why don't we have a committers IRC channel?
The members one is useful, and I don't see that 3000 is some
unfeasible number. There are more than 3000 Tomcat users but the
Tomcat channel isn't insane.
Hen
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
The ASF
irc.freenode.net #asfcommitters
Added it to my autojoin list.
Hen
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Henri Yandell bay...@apache.org wrote:
Why don't we have a committers IRC channel?
The members one is useful, and I don't see that 3000 is some
unfeasible number. There are more than 3000
+1 to the decoupling part. The bigger the bump to join in, the less people
will join.
Other important items imo:
* What is the value of your project? Is it valuable? Who is it valuable to?
What is the larger community it is related to and what are the trends in
that community? Are you also
Closest I've seen in the 'free' area is licensing that forbids military
uses.
Hen
On Monday, June 30, 2014, McGovern, James james.mcgov...@hp.com wrote:
Has anyone ever explored creation of a license model that forbids the
Federal Government in using its software? For example, you may want
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:24 AM, David Welton dav...@dedasys.com wrote:
Closest I've seen in the 'free' area is licensing that forbids military
uses.
Which is, once again, neither 'free software' nor open source because
it goes against the definition. You can't have it both ways: you
I think that's the wrong question. We're (mostly) a bunch of programmers
and know sod all about governance (much as each/most of us will happily
expound on what we think we know :) ).
I imagine however that many of us would happily offer up some time to hear
about the problems that government
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