Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Costin Manolache
Serge Knystautas wrote: Leo Simons wrote: Key ASF individuals are joining these discussions, on weblogs and various discussion forums. But the ASF as a whole is silent. In lieu of forming a statement for the ASF as a whole, what about organizing/encouraging/guiding people who want to

Re: What is a member?

2003-11-28 Thread Costin Manolache
active committers - IMO ASF membership should be similar with PMC membership ( as admission criteria, etc ), i.e. based on contributions/merit and without all the superman stuff. In other words - church ( or party ) and state should be separated :-) Costin At 12:03 PM 11/27/2003 -0800, Costin

Re: How ASF membership works and what it means

2003-06-27 Thread Costin Manolache
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Greg Stein wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:32:08AM +0100, Pier Fumagalli wrote: ... Best way of doing things? Writing a connector for the servlet container using JNI that uses unix sockets, named pipes, or something which is actually faster than the usual TCP socket

Re: .Net languages (was: How ASF membership works and what it means)

2003-06-27 Thread Costin Manolache
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Greg Stein wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:42:12PM -0700, Costin Manolache wrote: ... Dot net is actually doing almost the same mistake as java (AFAIK)- they support other languages, but only syntactically ( like java does with the languages that generate java

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Commons-Logging 1.0.3 Released

2003-04-08 Thread Costin Manolache
On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, robert burrell donkin wrote: Could you also upload the jars, in the binary directory ? It would simplify the life of those who want to automatically download dependencies. gladly but first a couple of questions: 1. is this someone that we should now be doing for

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-03-01 Thread Costin Manolache
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having a file encode project-artifact-version.type has been very useful for us.   Yes, it's often different from what the project creates and distributes, but I (and others) have been bitten by commons-logging.jar, struts.jar, junit.jar so many

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-28 Thread Costin Manolache
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Seeing the interest it has raised, I tend to think think it's time to get the act together and start working on it. I'd like to propose this for incubation ASAP, so to not loose momentum. ... Codebases or part of codebases that could convole

RE: Maven and community

2003-02-28 Thread Costin Manolache
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Collaboration does happen, now. It's not a future waiting to happen. Is there something that's not happening that specifically needs to be looked at? That's the irony. As far as I can see, most of the build processes could converge around

RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-27 Thread Costin Manolache
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words - as long as maven decisions affect only maven - I don't care. But if it affects other projects, and the repository certainly does - then the PMCs of those projects or the apache community are the ones that decide.

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-27 Thread Costin Manolache
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Few simple questions: Should we use 2 different dirs for src and binary distribution ? Or maybe 3 dirs ( src, bin, doc ) ? Why duplicate the existing distributions? They're available, mirrored and well understood. +1 I was just

RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-27 Thread Costin Manolache
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: - the ASF repository shall contain ASF jars, which don't require oversight beyond the issuing PMC. - the ASF repository should contain shared third party jars for which the ASF has approved their use and distribution. - the ASF

RE: Ant PMC Issue (was: RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository)

2003-02-26 Thread Costin Manolache
On 26 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: Since I am the one who asked why Ant and Maven aren't related projects under a PMC, you might was well yell at me for having the temerity to ask a rather obvious question. But for all of your railing this morning, you never actually answered the

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-26 Thread Costin Manolache
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote: So I am for /projectname/[subproject]/[version]/file[-version].jar That leo suggested. I'm not sure that's what Leo suggested. Having the version in both dir and jar seems a bit too much. The common practice in many projects ( at least in jakarta )

RE: Ant PMC Issue (was: RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository)

2003-02-26 Thread Costin Manolache
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Do we really need to have one big community? We've fostered a tight knit community of maven developers, even if they are not so tight with other parts of Apache. No, I don't believe that we need to be all one community. There is relatively

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-25 Thread Costin Manolache
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Leo Simons wrote: files in /dist/java-repository besides perhaps HEADER.html and README.htmls... Few simple questions: Should we use 2 different dirs for src and binary distribution ? Or maybe 3 dirs ( src, bin, doc ) ? Are milestone builds acceptable ? Should we get

RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-25 Thread Costin Manolache
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: all PMCs whose committers 'commit' to the repository should maintain some oversight. Infrastructure hasn't considered that a good model for the Wiki, and I don't know that it would work any better for the repository. Someone needs to take

Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Costin Manolache
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: In two weeks, there is a board meeting. At that time, I would like to be able to report that the contents of the Maven repository conforms to the policies of the Apache Software Foundation. Code under the ASF License is clearly OK. As is the IBM

Re: licensing review

2003-02-05 Thread Costin Manolache
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Code under the ASF License is clearly OK. As is the IBM Public License (the pre-Jakarta BSF, for example) and the MPL (Rhino). The following public domain components are also approved: Antlr and Doug Lea's concurrency package. Licenses

RE: licensing review

2003-02-05 Thread Costin Manolache
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I don't get these GPL people who license their work as GPL, but don't want the viral aspect... I believe that they are trying to separate the licensing of the source code vs. the binary. If you want to use their SOURCE, you have to keep the

Re: Wiki - we have a problem :)

2003-01-31 Thread Costin Manolache
Are we now going to have similar oversight over the mailing lists and archives ? If someone posts a pointer to warez or porn on one of the lists - are we going to have to remove it from archives ? Sorry, but I fail to see the difference between wiki and the mailing lists. Both are open to

Re: [poll] weblog package on apache.org

2003-01-29 Thread Costin Manolache
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Henri Gomez wrote: - Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ? +1 I don't think it is a need - but it would be a good idea. I know there are free or cheap hosting sites - but the

Re: The Apache Jakarta Law (Scientific?)

2002-11-12 Thread Costin Manolache
So far it seems Stefano ( who is not currently a very active tomcat developer) is pissed off by the decisions made on tomcat-dev. I don't see too many tomcat developers flaming each other. IMHO most ( or all ) tomcat developers agree that both code bases had some good and some bad parts. I also

Re: Rules for Revolutionaries

2002-11-12 Thread Costin Manolache
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 07:25, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Here is what I would have liked to see happening in Tomcat: What you would have liked is your problem. As I repeated quite a few times and you don't seem to hear is that the decision about a release is a majority vote and can't be vetoed -

Re: Rules for Revolutionaries

2002-11-08 Thread Costin Manolache
In my personal opinion they are just redundant :-) The rule that matter is that the community control the code and the name - a majority vote in the community can decide ultimately what happens. This is a particular case ( again IMO ) of the releases are majority votes and can't be vetoed. A

Re: Common XML Project descriptor ( Re: Subtle barriers to entry )

2002-11-05 Thread Costin Manolache
Can someone summarize what's wrong with the gump descriptor used by all jakarta and xml projects ? I understand we may need to add more stuff ( maybe using some ns: ), but I don't quite understand why we need to change existing definitions. Costin On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 14:08, John Keyes

Re: [discussion] Jakarta PMC bylaws change

2002-11-04 Thread Costin Manolache
I partially agree with Dirk's opinion. A very large PMC where people don't feel a direct need to participate is wrong. That's the reason I think 'active participants who volunteer for PMC' is the right solution. If someone doesn't feel 'active' in jakarta or doesn't have the time or wish to act

Re: Subtle barriers to entry

2002-11-04 Thread Costin Manolache
On a related issue - I think it would be very nice to include a link to gmane news gateway. There are quite a few people using it ( I'm no longer directly subscribed to any list ), and I think it should be at least mentioned. I don't know if a news server taking the feed for US distribution or

Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Costin Manolache
VOTE 1: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read this mail list thru a web archive? [X] +1 yes, let's make it readable [ ] 0 don't know/don't care [ ] -1 no, let's keep it private - o - VOTE 2: would you like to make