What should be the message of such posters?
nobody on this list can answer that.
we're not *that* type of people. you
need input from outside.
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without being too presumptious on the consumers taste.
I dont think design should be democratic process,
though its a Good Thing we can discuss it :-)
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Keeping in mind huge Ubuntu's users base, this might be quite a chance
for GTA04 or it's successor, to have a lot of new users and a way enter
mass production.
Ima buyin ! Where's the lineup ?
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It will be Feenugs in most peoples mouth, as in
Phoenic, Phoenicians and Phoenicopteriformes ( flamingos :-) )..
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seriously all the way. Learning from Apple ?
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For the record, I never liked moko
either. Too German.
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cleaning that up, and returning to the new storage would help.
I've learned to live with it :-/
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their MiniBook.
I would buy it, if it was wrist mountable; sort of a slide in mount on
my wrist.
I would buy it. Full stop :-)
I cant find any demo videoos on the minibook ?
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Please note Linux is a Torvalds (TM). TM stands for total monopol. Or
terrible monster.
Torvalds is evil. Linux is no free OS.
huh ?
ok, troll. please, lets leave him there.
dont respond to this mail !
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about hardware. I'm willing
to pay 100euro extra for a developer who
delivers the brick with a working FSO-based
distribution on it. And documents how its done.
Who follows ? :-D
is it possible at all ?
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has this
SHR-U: Empty VT on resume
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ever been solved ? I've basicly stopped taking my phone
with me once this has started. people refer to me as the
guy with the open-no-phone :-)
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that uses FSO ? SHR-t ? Debian ?
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(*) after deep sleep, it returns to a black
window with a blinking cursor - looks like x
doesnt start. after reboot, i get the wellknown
unknown boot option g_ether_bla, i get the
pinguin for a while, then it returns to
unknown boot option
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uses libsdl-ttf-2.0-0 and libvorbis0
(i'm guessing these are the intended packages)..
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think so - never seen it.
Let me check if I can repeat it.
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/.thone/ppl.cache/*ppl: No such file or directory
that's fixed in 0.6
sms list
* updating sms.cache..
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Query: Query failed:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.AttributeError
that's not.
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, if there is screen interactivity
allowed in the application where you'd need
the keyboard (I mean, if it has buttons), you'll
have problems overlaying it with a transparent
keyboard.
Which can be solved. I'm curious what you
have in mind. Yes, I'd love it.
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different than
the ipkg described by QTopia
http://qtextended.org/modules/developers/qtopia.php?linkFile=developers/IPKG_Howto
or even here
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BuildingIpkgs
In these descriptions, the control directory is
a directory, not a file.
just curious,
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though :-)
Let me know if you need anything.
for example .. I've put the tarbal up on google code but
I could put the sources under public svn there if thats
easier ?
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nick will be enough if it is intentional ;) .
Yeah, pike will do :-)
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], prettier :-)
But to be honest, I'm not there yet.
I learned the nitgrit of bash, sed and awk along
the way; most of the code already looks like
babytalk to me now, but well it works.
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[1] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2542865%7Ca2568942
[2] http://fz.hobby-site.org/om
select the SIM
as a backend for sms messages. It looks
like SQLite is implemented somewhere
between PIM and SIM. If that's documented
somewhere, I'm afraid I couldn't find it.
Can anyone confirm that, or is there
something wrong with my installation ?
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images (jffs2 and bin)
to my neo. over usb. in the right order.
that was usually all i had to do, if i sticked
to the same bootloader. somebody correct me
if my memory is wrong.
Isn't there a similar wrapper for windows ?
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Yes, or “One should do as he or she likes.”.
Or use they:
People can do as they like
I usually use s/he.
I wish there was a form
for his/er (her/is), too...
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those 'W' links in Google maps.
A perfect travelguide. WikiTravelMate.
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[scrolling]
There are other metaphors available that would fit the device's
strengths much better. What about paging?
+1 for paging. mind you, I dont need a button for
paging, a gesture could do it. which makes
it feel very much like scrolling again, but
then more solid.
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comfi too.
in the default keyboard in fatfingershell the keys
are high rather than wide. I estimate my fingertips
are about 160 wide (and 80 high). I found I could
use ffshell flawlessly when holding it vertical :-)
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Very nice. I want it. I guess I'll try
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume_keyboard#How_to_install_a_new_layout
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, but raster's keyboards
are swimming in a pool of empty greyness.
Great though - I'll stick to those.
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the dictionray
prediction.
One character I was instantly missing was
the :. I had to use the 'Terminal' layout
to type a smiley :-)
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asci code taken from an array that is
read from the config file on startup.
if that could be a string instead of a asci
char .. the rest would up to the designers of
a layout.
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autocompletion also
takes your call history and addressbook into
account :-) c[tab] pi[tab] would call pike.
It would work in vala-terminal just as well.
But still, just playing.
I'm not in favor of one char commands - i
like the fact that the terminal would
literally type out call if you type c[tab
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background color in the 'sms/read' window
in the 'messages' application on SHR ? and
does anyone know where that is set (just checked-
its not GTK).
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that is in the
topbar to. plus, i can't ssh into the machine
at this point - probably something with
/etc/default/dropbear, but I can't change
that without a terminal (and a keyboard) too.
s .. i'm stuck ? reflash it ?
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i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will
reset to the original settings
I managed to log in through wifi - boy am i
glad i made a desktop icon for activating my home
wifi :-) - and deleting ~/.e did it.
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for such
contributions ..
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way to revert them back to their original
settings ? I was thinking to opkg-remove,
opkg-install something ?
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PS. What I was trying to do is get
sound out of my external speakers - ffalarms
wasn't much good without it. And in
fact, that works now
#Neo_FreeRunner
But as you've noticed, you can't upload pictures there ..
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': '138840',
'time_to_full_now': '3932100',
'type': 'Battery',
'voltage_now': '4128000'}
.. but i'm not sure what means what.
does this look bad ?
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Your battery is ok, it reports 96% of charge ('capacity').
is it charged ? the icons say its at about 50% ?
its been on juice for near 12 hours.
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the distro (or I missed it)
sorry, om2009 (didnt think it would matter).
I only have one battery (??) and USB was not connected,
so it can't be HAL being confused about that.
I'll take out the battery for an hour and see if
that fixes the displayed icons.
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Hi
I gave it a try and wrote an FSO based phone app in Qt.
http://pvtrace.com/litephone/litephone1.png
Looks very nice !
The liter the better.
Have you got more screensnaps ?
What does it look like with a keyboard ?
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(and after changing - reboot)
that was it. in illume, topbar, wrench,
advanced, battery meter, advanced, set
from auto to internal, and reboot.
pulling the battery and praying for
5 minutes didnt help.
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? It also killed
my phone at the time, and i had to pop the
battery (again..), but retrying it now my
phone survives.
Is it a known issue, or not an issue at all ?
I can't find anything about it.
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Since this week, my battery isnt charging to the fullest anymore.
This didnt just gradually change, but happened 'all of a sudden'.
It charges - connected to the charger - up to ~50% of its capacity
and doesnt seem to go any further.
Did anyone else experience this ?
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- if this helps we should update
the om wiki page to mention this, ehr, feature)
you *can* put multiple maps in one mapset, though.
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strange, i've never seen it in day-to-day usage.
can't do it on my phone afaik ?
'ok sue, lets ask him - tuut - hi
john, its sue and dan here, we had a question'
'how did you do that, dan ? oh, i've an open phone'.
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hurt its display one of these days :-/
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and another one - I have scripts to connect
to my wifi, several ways, it all works, but
only after I activated the wifi driver.
The only way I know how to do that is through
Paroli settings. Is there a way to do it
from the command line ?
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, it wasnt easy. For me.
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org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy Display enabled
and it seems to help.
I'd like to investigate a bit what's possible
with mdbus, but mdbus returns mostly deprecated
and discouraged warnings.
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd
returns only errors. is that normal ?
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org.freesmartphone.odeviced \
/org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/WiFi \
org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.SetPower True
# bounce eth0
ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
# more custom stuff
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But I could sit in the train in peace.
And while on that train, did you see the light at the end of the tunnel?
no, sorry, i was staring at a black terminal
:-)
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in the train in peace.
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PS. GPRS died, never to return, once I forgot
to tap the screen for 5 seconds. Had to reboot.
Still dont know how to turn sleep off in om2009.
But for once, it was all forgiven.
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what am i doing wrong ?
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problem, its trying to rotate the screen
into 320x240, but the screen goes yellow
most of the time.. which is why I was
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# echo qvga-normal /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state
# dm
I did get it to work, temporarily.
Also, you did not very clearly specify if you are using Xglamo or
Xorg with xserver-xorg-video-glamo.
because I wouldn't have a clue, sorry :-)
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(-) hour:07 (+)
(off) alarm (on)
sort of an 'old school' lateral slider :-)
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Not sure when this started, but it might
be since flashing to om2009 release5:
I can't ssh into my Neo any more.
Not over wifi, and not over usb.
~pike$ ping 192.168.0.200
[..]
--- 192.168.0.200 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
~pike$ ssh r
Hi
~pike$ ping 192.168.0.200
Try at 192.168.0.202 :-)
eeeuuh... :-)
~ pike$ ssh r...@192.168.0.202
r...@192.168.0.202's password:
r...@om-gta02:~#
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Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now. I look
forward to the improvements a lot.
In case there's anybody as stupid as me out
there, don't try that from within the
Illume vala-terminal :-)
Did you remember to remove ~/.e -directory?
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it up, but didnt get
a BEEP working sofar :-) Does anyone know
how to beep() ?
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I like the settings button on screen (I don't like more the use of the
AUX Button, I think that is not much intuitive).
That's easy, actually. Edit
/usr/share/paroli/Applications/Settings/settings.py
to change category to launcher. I did that,
and it works.
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- sorry - that's not what I meant - I
meant, I don't like edje as a gui language.
I was taught there.is.only.xul :-)
nice video btw !
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We are in,
task 2 done you can see and download them at
http://www.tuxbrain.com/node/19
ok - I have similar screenshots at
http://pike.kw.nl/browse/files/projects/pike/2009/om2009/parolishots
I was aiming at a more graphic redesign, so
it includes screenshots with raster keyboard
into edje. Or maybe I should get XULRunner to work
on my phone :-D
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version of the 'few optimisations' I
could think of, anyway.
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more likely to hit the wrong one,
since that space is filled up too. hitting
no key is not so bad. hitting the wrong one
is annoying.
I believe in it..
oh .. patents ? .. skip .. one good idea lost for humanity.
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What keyboard is it anyway ? Is it listed here
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate ?
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But the current one - shipping
with om2009 - is pretty good.
..
What keyboard is it anyway ? Is it listed here
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate ?
It's the Illume one.
It's Rasters ? Good job. It works.
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through sofar :-)
Please mail on to the list for everyone to see. This way we all can
learn share the experiences!
It may not be so interesting for most
people on the list. I am mainly interested in
the user process here - not in core technical
issues .. so .. I've put it on the wiki.
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Hi
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/OM2009_first_run
Well, about first question - don't use u-boot, try Qi, and it will
boot on short click :P
oh great - and i hadn't even noticed :-D
qi is going to be the default bootloader - so i removed the question.
kewl,
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the boot process, there's not enough feedback
for me. I never feel I can trust the thing.
But maybe that's me :-)
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Second that ! Great job !
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I'm keeping a list of a few optimisations i
can think of; i'll fill it over the next few
days;
.. and i'll add them to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-themes
as a 'design concept', if that seems appropriate.
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it offlist - or put it on the wiki ?
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. That's
one way to avoid the problem. Minimalism. That's
easier to be consistent, at least.
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my expertise :-) And thanks for your considerate and patient
response.
yay - D O N E
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, neither on the
Flashing page;
The instructions on the Flashing page
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
sound very scary, and I am not inclined
to do that yet.
Is upgrading the frimware required to
install 2009/testing ? My hardware has
been fine using QTExtended.
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the icon is showing (which may be caused
by something else that's being changed by the
application that also shows the icon, ofcourse).
in any case, when I ever get to write a
script that works properly, i want to
show the icon, as well :-) how would I do that ?
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]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#disabling_wifi_on_startup
strange,
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my vote: QWO around the corners of the screen.
typing input changes focus to qwo, so you can
scratch all over the screen, and when you're done
focus returns to the application. no screen
estate lost :-)
ehm, make that GTA09.
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