ok, I got the problem. Sorry for the inconvenience.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:44 AM, saurabh gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I tried to register a project at the open moko wiki project list for my
> GSoC project, but it shows the following error:
> "ERROR: Could not create
Hello everyone,
I tried to register a project at the open moko wiki project list for my GSoC
project, but it shows the following error:
"ERROR: Could not create group: ERROR: value too long for type character
varying(255)"
I am not getting where it has the problem for type character variation. I
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please note this is an OFF LIST reply, since it is off topic for
> Openmoko mailing lists.
Huh? I agree, this is off topic but your reply did go out to the entire
list.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Lowell Higley
I saw a post earlier today that hinted that the GTA03 may be
released in December of this year.
I'm assuming that the GTA02 will be available in July. Does this
mean that the lifespan of GTA02 is just six months (July through
December)?
I'm not sure what to make of this.
Ajit
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Kevin Dean writes:
>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Because the price of the "free" phone is bundled into the price of the
>> contract.
>
>I don't think so. The only thing that changes in the deal is the
>profit margin of the company. The costs of the
This is splitting hairs at a level the attorneys I know would be
embarrassed to be a part of.
Kevin Dean writes:
>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Robert Taylor
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Kevin Dean wrote:
>>> I'm an American and your statement confuses me. Why is it "obvious"
>>> that a contr
Please note this is an OFF LIST reply, since it is off topic for
Openmoko mailing lists.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Lowell Higley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I make an observation.. I am an American by birth but have lived all over
> the world.. In the middle of the Pacific, Korea, and
2008/6/12 ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> They're not about to give us a 10% or 20% break on our monthly bill, or
> whatever percentage pays for the subsidy of a locked phone (like the
> iPhone), otherwise the 'subsidy' no longer appears as a subsidy to the
> end user who *does* buy a locked pho
Dear all:
For the easy management sack, from now on, the wiki skin will only keep default
skins "Openmoko" template.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Brenda
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Robert Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh okay so its semantics then.
In the USA, the "contract" is for the service ONLY. That's why I asked
in the beginning if we had a different definition of what it meant to
contract. It's a lot like a grocery store that of
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And I want it half the size:)
> A tiny, nice phone with QVGA, not a notebook. If you want the double size,
> why not just buy an eeepc?
As the resident Devil's Advocate, I agree here.
Lemme state this - I pa
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Because the price of the "free" phone is bundled into the price of the
> contract.
I don't think so. The only thing that changes in the deal is the
profit margin of the company. The costs of the mobile carrier also
indire
Dismal. although AT&T is currently scurrying to significantly upgrade their
3G network in order to support iPhone 2.0.
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=4800&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=25146
I don't think TMobile currently uses 3G. I barely even got EDGE coverage
from Tmobile when I left the S
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Robert Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin Dean wrote:
>> I'm an American and your statement confuses me. Why is it "obvious"
>> that a contract without a phone should be cheaper? The service
>> (cellular connectivity for voice and/or data) is the same service
> Why do americans have such a hard time grasping this?
>
> Rob
>
That's what I call starting a flame (from a flame)
Kosa
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Kevin Dean writes:
> >On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> US. To me, it's quite obvious that a contract without a phone
> >> *should* be cheaper, but that's a long way from
Nkoli wrote:
> ...
> As a tmobile USA (non New York) user, 3G can wait till 2009 for all I
> care, but EDGE is definitely a necessity. Since the rest of the world
> will have been using 3G for 2-5 years by the time GTA03 is released,
> not having 3G in that device will be a really bad idea. Forg
ian douglas wrote:
> But the carriers in America, in my experience (and I currently use a
> phone on each of Verizon, AT&T and TMobile), simply don't discount their
> monthly plan rates for using an unlocked phone on their network.
> Whatever portion of your monthly plan isn't otherwise going to
Kevin Dean writes:
>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> US. To me, it's quite obvious that a contract without a phone
>> *should* be cheaper, but that's a long way from "is" (it actually
>> worked out for the best, since I've had a working phne all these
Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Adilson Oliveira:
> So, cells like the samsung d880 just swap electrically between the 2 SIM
> cards? The spec say you can use both cards at the same time but don't
> say exactly what "same time" means.
There are phones out there that use 2 or 3 cards true-concurrently
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:01 PM, thomasg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's (partly) true.
> Nokias Symbian S60 and their S40 phones need to reboot - but that's only a
> software problem and I don't really know why they do that.
>
>
That is interesting. I've owned only nokia S60 devices since 2
Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Ron K. Jeffries:
> I understand that GTA03 really needs to be a quick
> turn, so the team can then invest in a new Freerunner product
> with a serious bump in computing power (for openers).
>
> I am NOT in the camp that predicts a 12 month cycle
> to get GTA03 out, as
Robert Taylor wrote:
> Which part of "a portion of the contract pays for you phone ... phone
> ISN'T FREE, YOU ARE FINANCING THE PURCHASE OF THE PHONE VIA THE
> CONTRACT" is hard to understand?
>
> Why do americans have such a hard time grasping this?
Your statement makes perfect sense, Robert.
On 6/11/08, Kyle Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Harry Tsai wrote:
> >
> > UK
> > TrueBox Technologies - http://www.TrueBox.co.uk Mr. Rob wood
> £272 delivered to anywhere in the UK...
>
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015080.html
> says it's $399, from the US presum
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>
> We have choosen to have only the EU version in our shop.
>
I see. We do have all 4 frequencies here in Brazil IIRC but the 850 is
only used by one company that I don't want to have business anyway so
the EU ve
Kevin Dean wrote:
> I'm an American and your statement confuses me. Why is it "obvious"
> that a contract without a phone should be cheaper? The service
> (cellular connectivity for voice and/or data) is the same service no
> matter what phone you have.
>
> In the US, the price of service contracts
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:20 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well entry level ADSL here in belgium are 250 Kbits.
> Also UMTS claimed 2Mbits are never acchieved except perhaps in densly
> populated area
I don't think you really tested UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA, or at least not with
proper hardware or
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:09 PM, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ian douglas wrote:
>> ... but not at AT&T plans are available coast-to-coast.
Got it! This was something I wasn't aware of. I've lived in several
states over the past handful of years and the plans I've had have all
been the
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I heard Nokia needs a reboot to switch, and eats battery as if there's no
> tomorrow on 3G ;-)
> /j
That's (partly) true.
Nokias Symbian S60 and their S40 phones need to reboot - but that's only a
software problem a
News Flash! The US doesn't always make sense. I'm a United Statesian. I've
lived around and worked with Europeans for years and I'm always agreeing
that what we have doesn't seem sensible or doesn't appear thought out. It's
very screwy. It just is. :-)
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 19:08:48 Esben Stien wrote:
> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > If we were to get rid of it, we could ditch pulseaudio and go
> > directly to alsa.
>
> You know you should go JACK right?. Going directly to alsa for such a
> real time application is jus
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stroller writes:
>>
>>On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:44, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you get a lower price on your contract than you would have with a
>>> phone? Yes, they would have let me pay for a subsidized phone without
>>>
Harry Tsai wrote:
>
> UK
> TrueBox Technologies - http://www.TrueBox.co.uk Mr. Rob wood
£272 delivered to anywhere in the UK...
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015080.html
says it's $399, from the US presumably. At the current exchange rate
that's £203... I think I can
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> No. ;-)
I thought so :)
>
> It's a pity, but the GSM-module won't support that - none will. And anything
> less than true *concurrent* usage - like "electrical swappers" where you can
> select which SIM to "boot"
The Freerunner has a single SIM slot.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Adilson Oliveira
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> Hi.
>
> I'm quite sure the answer is "no" but as I didn't find any definitive
> answer for that I decided to ask: does the openmo
Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
> Is adding an SD card externally accessible on GTA03 feasible?
+1
Having the SD card buried under the SIM under the battery is less than
ideal.
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I hope the camera on GTA03 will be ~3 megapixels
and have a decent (glass) lens. I don't know
what the COGS impact of the better camera will be
but Freerunner is NOT a bargain basement phone.
If the better specs on camera add $50 vs say $10
for a 1.3 megapixel with plastic POS lens, I for
one am a
Nope :p
On 6/11/08, Adilson Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi.
>
> I'm quite sure the answer is "no" but as I didn't find any definitive
> answer for that I decided to ask: does the openmoko hardware support 2
> SIM cards?
>
> []s
>
> Adil
ian douglas wrote:
> ... but not at AT&T plans are available coast-to-coast.
at = all
Lack of sleep = typos. My bad.
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Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Adilson Oliveira:
> Hi.
>
> I'm quite sure the answer is "no" but as I didn't find any definitive
> answer for that I decided to ask: does the openmoko hardware support 2
> SIM cards?
No. ;-)
It's a pity, but the GSM-module won't support that - none will. And anythi
Adilson Oliveira writes:
>
>I'm quite sure the answer is "no" but as I didn't find any definitive
>answer for that I decided to ask: does the openmoko hardware support 2
>SIM cards?
Not at the same time. Only one holder.
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Am 11.06.2008 um 19:48 schrieb Adilson Oliveira:
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> Dr.H.Nikolaus Schaller escreveu:
>
>> 6. we can ship worldwide, although that might not be reasonable for
>> you (quite high shipment cost and we have only the GTA02 EU version)
>>
>
> I wasn't
Thanks Dale, as David says it's this simply test makes the things very clear,
whit bold there's is no way but as I said before this font on the freerunner
can be used to previews, icons and a way to have various text files opens at
time and intuit of what's about and then to work use the second
> Even the animations are not gratuitous waste of CPU : it helps the user
> to understand what's happening. For instance, in the mobileMe video
> presentation the user uploads a picture of a contact and then the
> picture appears to flow right into the picture box of the contact detail
> - this is
Stroller writes:
>
>On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:44, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>
>> Did you get a lower price on your contract than you would have with a
>> phone? Yes, they would have let me pay for a subsidized phone without
>> giving me the phone...
>
>Where the heck are you?
>
>To the British it is quite
Kevin Dean wrote:
> T-Mobile and AT&T both offer
> nationwide plans and the plans are the same coast to coast.
... but not at AT&T plans are available coast-to-coast.
I was looking at plans last night for someone on the list who lives in
New Mexico, and there were fewer voice/data plans availabl
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| Could those of you in the US, who have the prior phone,and who plan to get
| the new one, share what providers you are using? Also, any details would
| be great. I am going to be leaving Sprint, and ditching my Treo 650 for
Ben Burdette wrote:
> Also, I hear that AT&T is charging 10$ more per month for iphones over
> their normal plan fees, and even more if you are a business user.
They raised the rate in general, even without picking a phone at
attwireless.com, you can still see the basic "unlimited data with
lim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Could those of you in the US, who have the prior phone,and who plan to get
> the new one, share what providers you are using?
I had a Neo (GTA01) and it worked fine on TMobile and AT&T, but only in
areas where the higher frequency bands were available -- I couldn't get
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> ian douglas writes:
>> TMobile did this for me in about 15 minutes at one of their stores, and
>> I didn't even have my Neo with me at the time. I simply told them I had
>> an unlocked international GSM-capable phone and I just needed a SIM card
>> for it.
>
> Did you get
Shawn wrote:
> say I buy a freerunner, but decide to switch to AT&T as my provider (as
> I plan to do in the near future), will they not hit me with a contract
> agreement anyway?
It varies, depending on who you talk to.
They typically need to lock you into a 2-year contract if they're
subsidi
"No"
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:03 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could those of you in the US, who have the prior phone,and who plan to get
> the new one, share what providers you are using?
T-Mobile. Been with them 5 or 6 years and zero complaints.
> Also, any details would
> be great. I am going
"no"
Not directly at least, it should be possible however to connect
another phone that has bluetooth up to it, and allow it to act in
nearly the same way.
HTH,
Federico
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Adilson Oliveira
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Hi.
I'm quite sure the answer is "no" but as I didn't find any definitive
answer for that I decided to ask: does the openmoko hardware support 2
SIM cards?
[]s
Adilson.
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On 11 Jun 2008, at 09:34, cedric cellier wrote:
> ...
> Anyway, I wouldn't call a way to easily share content like mails,
> contacts, calendar events, and even files, a "step backward". At the
> contrary, this is one of the biggest trouble for me with FOSS.
> Think about what a pain it would be to
On 11 Jun 2008, at 13:55, Shawn wrote:
> My question is this:
> say I buy a freerunner, but decide to switch to AT&T as my provider
> (as I plan to do in the near future), will they not hit me with a
> contract agreement anyway? Isn't that how you get the cheapest
> minute/plans?
They may
Kalle Happonen wrote:
> Michael Kluge wrote:
>
>>> 7. Apple currently defines the PDA/mobile marketplace.
>>>
>>>
>> No, the smartphone market is dominated by the Blackberry.
>>
>>
> Dominate and define are different things. Blackberry might dominate
> (only in US though), b
On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:44, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> ian douglas writes:
>> Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>> when I went to get a sim card to use in my moko, I was
>>> unable to find one without getting a subsidized phone to go with it.
>>
>> TMobile did this for me in about 15 minutes at one of their
>> sto
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Dr.H.Nikolaus Schaller escreveu:
> 6. we can ship worldwide, although that might not be reasonable for
> you (quite high shipment cost and we have only the GTA02 EU version)
>
I wasn't aware that there are different versions depending on your
loca
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You are totally right.At T-Mobile Germany you can reserve an iPhone 3G.
You can only get it with an contract thant is far more expensive than
comparable contracts of T-Mobile Germany. The "cheapest" (24 month-)
contract Complete S is 5 € more expe
AT&T in the US does offer SIMs without a phone. However, you have to go
into a Corporate store. The resellers generally won't or can't do this. I
do not know, however, if they offer SIMs with contracts. To my knowledge,
they only do this with "pay as you go" SIMs.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41
Your calculations may well be correct for the awful situation in the
USA. In other parts of the world, this is drastically different!
Please keep that in mind.
Ortwin
On 6/11/08, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Taylor wrote:
>> Just compare equal things.
>
> We'll have to agree to
Could those of you in the US, who have the prior phone,and who plan to get
the new one, share what providers you are using? Also, any details would
be great. I am going to be leaving Sprint, and ditching my Treo 650 for
the new phone. It is very exciting, but I am a little lost as to what all
my
The local t-mobile store occasionally has a no extra charge (free I suppose)
quad band world phone from Motorola. I was thinking of getting that as a
spare.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> ian douglas writes:
> >Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> >> when I went to ge
I plan on using my phone in VOIP mode as often as possible. Since I use
my phone most often at home, I'm hoping I'll be able to use far fewer
minutes per month than normal. That's when the pay-as-you-go SIM plan
starts to really pay off - I don't have to pay for an artificial minimum
of minut
Hi all,
to clarify some questions you may have:
1. we work closely together with Trisoft so you will get your
Freerunner at approx. the same time (1-2 days) independently of where
you place(d) your order
2. the direct link is
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner
(th
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Ken Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:57:13AM +0800, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> the day the design mockups for the ui i see stop having alpha
>> transparency is the day i make this unimportant. until that day,
>> your "i don't care about
The speed is depends on courier and custom process, we will announce
shipping date at right timing soon.
Harry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 提到:
> Is trisoft.de not an official reseller? Which reseller will receive the
> first phones?
>
> thx.
>
> Ursprüngliche Nachricht
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Michael,
TRIsoft will work with Golden Delicious Computers as partnership, I do
believe you also can buy freerunner from TRIsoft webshop.
So, Openmoko with TRisoft is indirect cooperation, I know TRIsoft Mac
and Robert very well, they also are good friends for me and openmoko.
BR
Harry
Micha
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If we were to get rid of it, we could ditch pulseaudio and go
> directly to alsa.
You know you should go JACK right?. Going directly to alsa for such a
real time application is just bad, very bad.
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On Wednesday 11 June 2008 13:24, cedric cellier wrote:
> -[ Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:47:56AM +0100, Andy Powell ]
>
> > I'm sorry but you're wrong. While it might eat a little cpu, it's not
> > much. Most of the work is actually done by the graphics card
>
> Which is just another CPU which also
Hi all,
to clarify some questions you may have:
1. we work closely together with Trisoft so you will get your
Freerunner at approx. the same time (1-2 days) independently of where
you place(d) your order
2. the direct link is
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner
(th
ian douglas writes:
>Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>> when I went to get a sim card to use in my moko, I was
>> unable to find one without getting a subsidized phone to go with it.
>
>TMobile did this for me in about 15 minutes at one of their stores, and
>I didn't even have my Neo with me at the time. I si
Who are these weird people that think window transparency on an
underpowered phone is a good idea?! What functionality does THAT give
us? I'd like to see some justification, if not from you then from
whoever is responsible for these ideas. I've lived without window
transparancy on all my PCs and ha
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:56 AM, robert lazarski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> My question is this:
>> say I buy a freerunner, but decide to switch to AT&T as my provider (as I
>> plan to do in the near future), will they not hit
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My question is this:
> say I buy a freerunner, but decide to switch to AT&T as my provider (as I
> plan to do in the near future), will they not hit me with a contract
> agreement anyway? Isn't that how you get the cheapest minute/
Hi Harry,
no TRIsoft in Germany?
Michael
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juni 2008 11:43:59 schrieb Harry Tsai:
> Dear Community,
> You should already know Pulster and IDA, they are our official reseller
> in the Germany and India.
> Today, I want to introduce new partners in Germany and UK, you can buy
> fr
Hi,
TRIsoft is collaborating with Golden Delicious.. so if you have preordered
on the TRIsoft site there should be no problem at all.
Edwin Lock
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Is trisoft.de not an official reseller? Which reseller will receive
+1
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Michael Kluge wrote:
>> 7. Apple currently defines the PDA/mobile marketplace.
>>
>
> No, the smartphone market is dominated by the Blackberry.
>
Dominate and define are different things. Blackberry might dominate
(only in US though), but now Apple has the new cool thing, and every
manufa
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Jano escreveu:
>
> I just learned from an overseas friend about this "pay for being called", and
> it certainly feels outrageous to someone used to being called for free.
>
> Alas, I guess it is a matter of time that this "feature" arrives over here
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:57:13AM +0800, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> the day the design mockups for the ui i see stop having alpha
> transparency is the day i make this unimportant. until that day,
> your "i don't care about this" is the kind of opinion that i also am
> not interested in, because i
Hi Harry,
no TRIsoft in Germany?
Michael
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juni 2008 11:43:59 schrieb Harry Tsai:
> Dear Community,
> You should already know Pulster and IDA, they are our official reseller
> in the Germany and India.
> Today, I want to introduce new partners in Germany and UK, you can buy
> fr
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Conclusions:
>
> *) I will keep PA for the time being and activate module-suspend-on-idle
> *) You will be able to turn off the tap ;)
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My question is this:
say I buy a freerunner, but decide to switch to AT&T as my provider (as I plan
to do in the near future), will they not hit me with a contract agreement
anyway? Isn't that how you get the cheapest minute/plans? If thats the case,
then yeah, it looks like the iPhone is cheap
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Marcus Bauer escreveu:
>> Germany
>> Golden Delicious Computers- http://www.goldelico.com Dr.Nikolaus
>> Schaller
>
> Hey, the shop (not the website) is already openmokoed ;-)
... and the name is, hmmm, bold :) (no offense, I really like it!)
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-[ Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:47:56AM +0100, Andy Powell ]
> I'm sorry but you're wrong. While it might eat a little cpu, it's not much.
> Most of the work is actually done by the graphics card
Which is just another CPU which also need power. We are speacking
about embeded devices here.
== Off
Is trisoft.de not an official reseller? Which reseller will receive the
first phones?
thx.
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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Datum: 11.06.2008 11:43
An: "List for Openmoko community discussion"
Betreff: Openmoko official resell partners
Dear Community,
You should alread
U also have to know that "running linux" doesn't mean it's open. Some Telenet
digiboxes (The onlything in Belgium that can receive the encrypted DBV-C) run
Linux, but they are the most closed devices I've ever seen, and they also
fail in what they are designed to do. I assume they where designed
me wants it too
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On Wednesday 11 June 2008 12:25:11 Lorn Potter wrote:
> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> > On Wednesday 11 June 2008 02:39:08 Lorn Potter wrote:
> >> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> >>> Ok, a first summary:
> >>>
> >>> *) I still like my tap sound.
> >>> *) Almost all people do not want the tap soun
Thanks for this enlightening post!
I'd wish this thread could fade now...
:M:
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Hehe... wrongly quoted. Forgiveness pls.
Rahul J
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Andy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Err, what's that got to do with anything I said?
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On Wednesday 11 June 2008 10:12, Rahul Joshi wrote:
> Sigh. First off let me begin by saying I'm not comparing iPhone with
> FreeRunner (but cud have since they both are... um.. smart phones! its
> quite OK saying - apples with apples)
> To those hyper-exasperated-over-comparison ppl, raving mad ab
Can we get an estimate when the phones will reach the official resellers?
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On Wednesday 11 June 2008 09:51, rakshat hooja wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Andy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sounds like you got stuck with the crappy US model contract. AFAIK it's
> > only
> > the USA (and now India) where you pay to *receive* calls as well as make
> > the
Great news, thanks for the update!
--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Harry Tsai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Harry Tsai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Openmoko official resell partners
> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion"
> Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 11:43 AM
> Dear Community,
> You sho
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:57:13AM +0800, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> the day the design mockups for the ui i see stop having alpha
> transparency is the day i make this unimportant. until that day,
> your "i don't care about this" is the kind of opinion that i also am
> not interested in, because i
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