OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, I saw on the net a video about the BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4baLQmU0s (english 40min) Jono Bacon, former Ubuntu Community Manager, shares a video with a detailed review and demo of the new bq Aquaris E4.5, complete with commentary on the wider scopes

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Ed Kapitein
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 08:31 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I saw on the net a video about the BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu phone: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4baLQmU0s > (english 40min) > Jono Bacon, former Ubuntu Community Manager, shares a video with a > detailed review and demo of

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 08:46:09AM +0100, Ed Kapitein escribió: > > What I'm asking me, and want to ask here: How thy 'paint' the picture > > from the apps written in HTML5 or QML to the display? Is this as well at > > the end of the day a X11 server or something else? It moves so smoo

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, Am 16.03.2015 um 09:00 schrieb Matthias Apitz : > El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 08:46:09AM +0100, Ed Kapitein escribió: > >>> What I'm asking me, and want to ask here: How thy 'paint' the picture >>> from the apps written in HTML5 or QML to the display? Is this as well at >>> the end o

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Ed Kapitein
>< > Interesting. > > Makes me curious why you both spend money on that one instead of e.g. the > GTA04A5? > > Any answer is valid - and no need to be polite… > > I am just curious to understand how people think and decide such things in > March 2015. > > BR, > Nikolaus Hi Nikolaus, A coupl

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Ed, Am 16.03.2015 um 09:58 schrieb Ed Kapitein : >> < >> Interesting. >> >> Makes me curious why you both spend money on that one instead of e.g. the >> GTA04A5? >> >> Any answer is valid - and no need to be polite… >> >> I am just curious to understand how people think and decide such thi

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Mon 16 March 2015 10:43:51 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Our key problem is that we don’t have a big budget to spend for a new GTA05 > that can compete with others. The Neo900 UG long term business plan has perspectives to change that, eventually :-) cheers jOERG -- () ascii ribbon camp

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread guru
El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 09:34:37AM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller escribió: > > Thanks for the info. > > > >> I did order the ubuntu phone and can't wait to test it out! > > > > Me too on March 12 in the flash sell. The money is already cut from my > > credit card, so there is hope

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Nick
Quoth g...@unixarea.de: > I'm using since 2008 the FR as my one and only cellphone. This is not > lying, it is just a fact. And I do not know any other person from this > list who is doing so. I am too. The only thing that makes me tempted to switch phones is redphone or chatsecure, basically. T

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Neal H. Walfield
At Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:43:51 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > For our community products we have: because 1, there is no 2 and because 2 > there is no 1. > > What makes the difference? Some investor (Ubuntu) did cover the risk of > buying the first set of thousands of eggs and was able to

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, Am 16.03.2015 um 13:40 schrieb Neal H. Walfield : > At Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:43:51 +0100, > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> For our community products we have: because 1, there is no 2 and because 2 >> there is no 1. >> >> What makes the difference? Some investor (Ubuntu) did cover the ris

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Alfa21-mobile
Hi *, I think it's difficult to gain interest of new users if a new user must buy an old casing first of being able to use the new hardware also, old casings are a limited resource and are awful to look compared to newer and slimmer styles moreover the old casings eventually need to be modified

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, I had not planned to make it a statement-reply session, but it has converted into one :) Am 16.03.2015 um 14:47 schrieb Alfa21-mobile : > Hi *, > > I think it’s difficult to gain interest of new users if a new user must buy > an old casing first of being able to use the new hardware > >

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Alfa21-mobile
> > > > Well, that is not the goal of the GTA04A5 project. It was focussed right > from the beginning (and therefore still is) to give > those who already have a GTA02 a much more powerful processor and some > newer peripherals. > > Like a replacement motor for an old car. > > I know, and also for

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Francesco De Vita
Hi > I'm using since 2008 the FR as my one and only cellphone. This is not > lying, it is just a fact. And I do not know any other person from > this list who is doing so. I will continue using the GTA02 until > finaly breaks something, display or board, and will hope to update > it. How and when

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 16.03.2015 um 15:38 schrieb Alfa21-mobile : > > > Well, that is not the goal of the GTA04A5 project. It was focussed right from > the beginning (and therefore still is) to give > those who already have a GTA02 a much more powerful processor and some newer > peripherals. > > Like a replace

Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Spacefalcon the Outlaw
g...@unixarea.de wrote: > I'm using since 2008 the FR as my one and only cellphone. This is not > lying, it is just a fact. And I do not know any other person from this > list who is doing so. Nick followed: > I am too. The only thing that makes me tempted to switch phones is=20 > redphone or c

Re: Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 07:31:52PM +, Spacefalcon the Outlaw escribió: > g...@unixarea.de wrote: > > > I'm using since 2008 the FR as my one and only cellphone. This is not > > lying, it is just a fact. And I do not know any other person from this > > list who is doing so. > > N

Re: Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Hey, I don't talk on phone. I just don't talk. I chat. I email. That's why I don't need a dumbphone. I need a device with a full operating system so I can compile my preferred applications for it. If I need a gsm then I need it to get an Internet connection. Then I can use ssl/tor for chatting

Re: Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Spacefalcon the Outlaw
Matthias Apitz wrote: > I do not exactly know what a 'smartphone' is. Harald Welte gave a clear technical definition in one of his presentations: a smartphone is a phone that has two separate processors for the application and baseband functions. It's a clear technical definition independent of

Re: Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> are you using your FR because it's free or because it's a smartphone? I don't really use my FR for the following reasons: - I don't use its phone part because it's not Free (I guess by now I could try to use your firmware to fix that part) and because I don't like the idea of being actively

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread Pascal Gosselin
> On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: . > > I am just curious to understand how people think and decide such things in > March 2015. Here's my take on this: My particular vertical market need is for a very small computer that: -Boots up upon receiving an ex

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone && HTML5 / QML

2015-03-16 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Mon 16 March 2015 22:00:42 Pascal Gosselin wrote: > > On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > . > > > I am just curious to understand how people think and decide such things in > > March 2015. > Here's my take on this: > > My particular vertical market need is for