steve wrote:
Yes, A Sunday preview of my Monday update.
Am I wrong or we didn't get any Monday update this week? :P
Something more than a preview, Steve? :)
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Dirk Deimeke wrote:
security costs comfort ... that is the way it is.
scp file freerunner:/tmp
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo cp /tmp/file /final/destination
Well, you can always login via SSH as a root...
Then I generally use SSH using both konqueror kio and Gnome gvfs and I
don't lose any
Steven ** wrote:
I have a similar problem, but came up with a slightly different
approach. I tend to snooze too much, so mine focuses on the snooze
button.
Me too...!
You'd start with 1 big snooze button that snoozes for x minutes.
After x minutes, alarm sounds again, but there are now two
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/none-CAR190-Labyrinth/dp/B0ISLL
I was figuring something like that since long time... I hoped to play
with Neverball and accelerometers, but unfortunately we won't have 3d
soon :/.
So, any 2d implementation for me is ok! :P
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steve wrote:
web shop opens!
Not 1-2 weeks, trust me.
So you meant shop opens 2 weeks, isn't it?
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As decided in the Milano GroupSales wiki page [1], I've set up a Google
group [2] for all the italian users of the GroupSales wiki page to
organize user group sales and discuss about local issues.
Bye!
[1] http://tinyurl.com/5q542u
[2] http://tinyurl.com/5jc8ws
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Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
As decided in the Milano GroupSales wiki page [1], I've set up a Google
group [2] for all the italian users of the GroupSales wiki page to
organize user group sales and discuss about local issues.
Bye!
[1] http://tinyurl.com/5q542u
[2] http://tinyurl.com
Lally Singh ha scritto:
Just to clarify, NB would run on a desktop computer, and cross compile for OM.
I'm imagining a situation not unlike CW for Palm (I had to dev on that
a few years ago). It compiles the code and uploads it to the
emulator, which you can run the debugger on. Then you
Christian Beier wrote:
Am Mon, 5 May 2008 22:16:25 +0200
schrieb Martin Bernreuther [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am Montag, 5. Mai 2008 schrieb Adilson Oliveira:
There was an email yesterday from Steve talking about it. Check the
archives, please.
Is there an easy way to search within the lists
Bastian Muck ha scritto:
Soulnds like a good idea, even if i preferred Eclipse more ;-). I don't
have any problems with Eclipse and use it for Java, PHP and C.
But if you prefer Netbeans and you want to write the plugin it's over to
you. So when it's finished I will install Netbeans, too.
Tom Russell wrote:
I like to have both a pen and stylus handy but hate carrying more than
necessary. I found a very small (10cm, closed) combo
What about those [1] ?
I like the Confort Stylus...
[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stylus_Alternatives
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Ryan Prior wrote:
Perhaps phone-cron needs to be written, to take anacron to the level
of task flexibility required for modern cell phones. Cron and anacron
are crusty old beasts - we need something fresh and sharp.
Talking with dbus too...
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Jens Fursund wrote:
and for the screen, in the related videos there is a video from
trolltech where they show of a freerunner and you see the screen.
Where did you find it, could you post a link?
Maybe he meant this:
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=k9QLdK6pFCIfmt=18 ?
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Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano ha scritto:
Andrea Debortoli ha scritto:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales#Italy
Just 2 things, when someone insert his/her name should also update the
number at the top, just under the city!
Hey, we are 37 people!! :D
I waited for this thread... All
Andrea Debortoli wrote:
I've already done this on www.neo1973.it http://www.neo1973.it but
there's no many others places where we're sure to find interested
peoplemaybe you could convince felipe...:)...
Ok, I'll contact him... :)
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Andreas Hennig wrote:
since the last official community update was a few week ago
Months? :o :|
Anyway I do prefer they're working on shipping the Frerunners to us,
than on writing here...
BTW I'd like to read some twitter-form status-mails from them :)
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Schmidt András wrote:
I myself and all people I talked to think that that the black one has no
style. Also the orange-white looks cool.
I don't agree... Imho the black one is more professional... I loved the
Black/silver before but now I think that the full-black version is the best.
The
Martin Bernreuther wrote:
the Neo 1973 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_hardware#Processor) as well
as
the Neo Freerunner
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#Processor)
have Processors based on the ARMv4 instruction Set. Apparently one consequence
(stated on
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:38:24 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
babbled:
Another format that maybe works on streaming (if I've not misunderstood
what has been stated) is
* 5: [EMAIL PROTECTED] flv file
no - not going to work. 21fps
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
what freerunner *IS* good at is nice high resolution still images. it is NOT
good at motion (animation). that's possibly the simplest way i know to describe
its graphics :) great for ebook and text reading. great for your high-res
photos. don't expect a
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
i can say now - 320x240 mpeg4 video with mplayer using xvideo on the gta02 even
can't play at 30fps. i was wrong with my guess. it is dropping 25% of the
frames. so as such actually i correct this. i was too optimistic. you can more
likely manage 20fps @
Lucas Bonnet wrote:
during one of my presentation of the Openmoko project, I mentionned
the ability to know which GSM cell the Neo is connected to. This allows
some approximate geolocating, provided you know the position of the GSM
cells. It could be useful in an urban environment, where GPS
Patrick Davila wrote:
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/04/22/side-by-side-video-windows-mobile-and-embedded-linux/
You have to admit the bling looks pretty.
Yes... And that's only on a Neo... Freerunner that will have a better
CPU that surely will allow to get really better performances
Tilman Baumann wrote:
Just a question: the widgets shown are they running on X?
It seems they are since you can see kwin running with the KDE default
style. And... If I'm right, this means that we could run Qt apps like
these also in Openmoko (I mean without X reboot :P), isn't it?
Regular
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
(both gtk/qt/qtopia/qopenmoko) :P
Just a typo, eh! I meant just openmoko :P
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Tomas Di Domenico wrote:
Actually, I'd say that GPL would be more correctly associated to
free than open. It's a shame that free in english is primarily
associated to free as in beer in this context, though, which causes
all the controversy already discussed around Free your phone. I love
that
Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
and YES I agree, the remaining V5 vs V6 issues seem small
(but we did get extra info and clarification, thanks Tony).
BTW, there is a way to work around the v5 issue in software. Because the
LED in an unmodified v5 shines 6 or so times as bright as it should (and
steve wrote:
The phone fits snuggly in a bed of foam, carved precisely to fit its form.
Well, looking at the photos taken by Michael (coverOffTrayRemoved*.jpg
and coverTrayTriangle*.jpg first of all) it seems that under the phone's
bed of foam there's enough space for pushing a pouch, isn't
Michael Shiloh wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks a lot for those photographs helping us waiting for the device.
PS : Your camera doesn't seem to be a very good one ;)
Anyone wishing to send me a better camera is welcome to do so :-)
Well, I think the problem isn't on the camera
ramsesoriginal wrote:
Thank you. Wow. Finally, something real, after all this talking
about the freerunners. all that misses now is one of those babys in my
hands :D
I agree... Finally we can see a box that seems quite ready to be shipped
to all us :P, btw good photos of the phone with
Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) ha scritto:
This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no
matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change.
I already update all the changes that shipping A5 will apply.
steve ha scritto:
I'll gladly put the price back to $650 which was the first price we
released.
LOL... BTW for me you can also put the price at 398 for staying a little
more far from 399... :P
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Andrea Debortoli wrote:
I think nobody will buy a GTA02v5 knowing that a better revision will be
available some days after...
I will too, but only because I can't wait longer :(
I'm not so happy about this decision, btw...
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Michael Shiloh wrote:
Andy Powell wrote:
On Friday 18 April 2008 18:34, Michael Shiloh wrote:
The Neo Freerunner can charge most rapidly when it can pull 1 Amp from
the power supply connected to the USB socket. However, not all chargers
or computers can provide this much current.
It might
Michael Shiloh wrote:
When the Neo Freerunner detects that power has been provided at the USB
port, it will attempt to draw only 100mA. This minimum is mandated by
the USB standard. This amount of current is insufficient to both power
the Neo Freerunner (or even just its backlight) and to
Stroller wrote:
On 13 Apr 2008, at 17:44, steve wrote:
Not sure I understand what you mean by final Inventory.
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add
some
other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
Many people have voiced there opinion to me
Andy Green ha scritto:
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel Future Button
and LED software spec thread [1] in which there are some infos about
Freerunner hardware that I think they should be more visible.
Summarizing, they say that
Andrea Debortoli wrote:
2008/4/19, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is quite possible to make your statement by NOT purchasing a v5
unit and waiting for a v6. Choosing to wait yourself, without passing
the delay and costs onto everyone else is the most ethical, polite way
to solve the problem.
Bobby Martin wrote:
Personally, I want the hardware to be as good as OM knows how to make
it, so I'm waiting for v6 before I buy. I don't see any reason to delay
the purchase for all the people who want to buy a v5 now, though.
Marco, you would have to wait either way - either everyone waits
steve wrote:
As I recall. There is an LED under the aux button an LED on the face of the
device and an LED under the power button.
According to what I've read [1] there are just two leds, but one of
these (the one under the power button) has two kind of light (blue/red).
[1]
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
And the point was? Yeah, the point. There was one here somewhere, let me
look for it. Oh yeah. Here it is:
Nothing. Will. Ever. Be. Perfect.
I know this and I never asked for a perfect device, I do really know
that this LED(s) issue is just a minor problem, but I
steve wrote:
My FR has two speaker holes, but I do recall the spec being mono. perhaps
that was just on Bluetooth.
Some time ago I heard that the device was mono, but with two speakers
(pushing out the same sound).
Is this wrong?
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Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Fahrstuhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heya,
the wiki-page about the Freerunner hardware states that issue would be
resolved in the GTA02v5 mass production phones. [1]
A6 will be fine tune version of A5, only minor
Crane, Matthew wrote:
There is no search on the mailing list so I'm not sure if this has been discussed previously.
Has anybody tested voip with openmoko? Maybe is an easy way to implement a cheap
home-zone.
There's no search officially, but you can get it using GMANE:
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
I also planned to buy some screen protectors for the freerunner...
Reading comments on the net I've heard that the best ones are the
Brando (they've a site shipping worldwide, but I can't find it now)
anyway I don't really know if it's an hoax or not...
BTW
Michele Renda wrote:
Ps. Someone know if exist a standalone QWERTY keyboard with mini usb
connector that can be used with freerunner?
My girlfriend will be very very happy :)
I don't know about mini-usb one, but I know about a mini-bluetooth
keyboard [1], that really sounds better to my
Michele Renda ha scritto:
I hope to find one not too much expensive. To buy the Freerunner, I have
already vincolated the Cristmas presents for next 5 years :)
Ah, ok... :D
Btw I think that it's better for you looking for a mini-keyboard with
standard USB connector (eBay can be your friend!),
Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:
I Use a A4 sheet of laser printer for overhead projectors film.
I printed a grid 46 mm x 60mm on the sheet the I cut the protectors on demand.
They fit nicely if the are inserted first on the left side of the neo.
That kind of sheets are generally thicker, but how
Ivo Anjo wrote:
Finally, the miniSD card, DEFINITELY leave it off, unless you get a
really really really good deal, because you can buy very high-capacity
nowadays, so it doesn't make much sense to pay for 512mb or such on the
neo, and then buy a multi-gb one (I am definitely getting one of
Marcus Bauer wrote:
So essentially the Neo asks hey, can I have 500mA? and there is no
answer. The Neo then plays safe and pulls only 100mA as to the USB
standard. But the Neo can pop-up a dialog asking you hey guy, there is
some unknown charger, I currently take only 100mA, shall I pull more
openmoko wrote:
I have a question about the USB host feature ... Could it be possible to
use a traditional USB keyboard with this feature ? (Enough power ?
Compatible plugs ?)
I figure this is possible...
Can we get an adapter to be able to plug any traditional USB devices ?
(USB storage
steve wrote:
1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on after
this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while.
Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk about the software release
late Next week and let you all know what made it into the first
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you attach it to the phone?
I have uploaded a video to youtube http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=9enAgqLWeX0
So you're simply putting the protector under the phone case?
Doesn't it move around?
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Tim Shannon wrote:
I think that has been one of the top unanswered questions on many
peoples minds. I don't think we've gotten a solid answer yet, but I'm
sure it will come in time.
Exactly... We've asked this also few days ago [1], but we didn't get any
answer. I really hope that this is
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you attach it to the phone?
I have uploaded a video to youtube
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=9enAgqLWeX0
So you're simply putting the protector under the phone case?
Doesn't it move around?
Ah... And I forgot: what
Alexander Frøyseth ha scritto:
What are the warrenty?
I figure that in Europe, if you buy regulary from a seller, it will be
included in the extra-price you'll have to pay here (that includes VAT,
battery recycling, warranty and more...).
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Lowell Higley ha scritto:
1) include the custom (closed) cable or at least make it an option
I do agree with this... Also if the cable is sold only by Openmoko it
should be there, since it's a so important thing for using the phone as
a standard phone (I not always have my PC around, and
steve ha scritto:
This is a very difficult issue. . Let me Nutshell it.
Imho, not so much!
1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone.
2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine.
[CUT]
Some people philosophically believe we shouldn't do custom chargers.
So, I get to
steve ha scritto:
Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what EXTRAS they would
like in the box ( most of them legal) so, the team will make a decision.
We won't please everybody, but it will be a rational decision, based on
cost of the extra goodies, availability, and importance, and
ramsesoriginal ha scritto:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quikwriting is the best input method for finger input on a small
touchscreen like the Neo's that I have come across.
http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/demos/quikwriting.html
There have been positive
Ajit Natarajan wrote:
A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector. It is a
sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen. When
affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation.
However, it resists scratching and fingerprints can simply be
Federico Lorenzi wrote:
I agree, btw I think that it will be cheaper also if on a city we can't
group 10 people, simply we'll order on the most requested city, and from
there we'll ship to other buyers... Standard shipping in Italy should be
just 8€ more: that's definitely lower than 30$ :P...
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
ramsesoriginal ha scritto:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Ortwin Regel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quikwriting is the best input method for finger input on a small
touchscreen like the Neo's that I have come across.
http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/demos
Since Freerunner won't have an hardware light sensor to set its LCD
brightness, I got some ideas about smartly changing the luminance of the
GTA02 screen to save its battery (still with an unknown life time :/).
Of course they aren't and never will be precise as an hardware sensor
is, but it's
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano ha scritto:
What about a nice wiki page telling if you want to buy a neo where do
you live and an email to contact? This could be useful to take the
advantage to buy 10 neo at a time and then giving it to each one who was
accorded.
Let me explain, i want a neo, i'm from
Ops... Sorry for the title typo :P
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
As many people, I guess, I sometime wonder if a certain person answering
a question on this mailing list or an other is trustful or not.
To exactly know who is who, I propose to make a list of members on the
wiki.
Cause I didn't found such a page, I created one
Alexander Frøyseth ha scritto:
Helo
What is the current battery lifetime on GTA02?
I was asking this too in other lists, but there unfortunately are no
official/semi-official/unofficial reports from any of the GTA02 owners yet.
This is an important issue, but I've not read so many words...
ewanm89 wrote:
On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:07:27 +0200
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcus Bauer wrote:
The current browser is based on webkit and has Javascript, DOM etc.
However, the CPU is to slow and the screen to small. Much more fun
is 'links' which does have a graphics
Mikko Rauhala ha scritto:
ma, 2008-04-07 kello 11:24 +0200, Erland Lewin kirjoitti:
IMHO, the Opera Mini design (compressing and optimizing web pages
before sending them to the phone) is excellent, because it saves
traffic (=money) and speeds up loading.
I'm not aware of any open source
Marcus Bauer wrote:
The current browser is based on webkit and has Javascript, DOM etc.
However, the CPU is to slow and the screen to small. Much more fun is
'links' which does have a graphics mode and simply ignores most CSS. But
it is blazingly fast and many pages are better readable with it
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
interesting you mention this. i actually thought of using aspell as the core of
a probability and correction matching engine, but as such it's api isn't
sufficient to use it.
That was my idea/hope too...
so anyway- aspell would have been great - it'd
steve ha scritto:
Moved onto the next stage PVT. Verifying the design for Production. This
stage is always a bit annoying
Because the temptation is to throw the switch and build a billion phones.
There are three PVT builds scheduled
And the first has been completed. The completed handsets will
Michele Renda ha scritto:
When I steal the phone, the first thing that I will do is to turn off
the phone. Then because I am afraid to be detected by cell I will change
the internal sim, before to turn on it.
Well, this is true but sending data on next power-on could help.
BTW, here we're
Michele Renda ha scritto:
According you is possible to prepare it with an qemu emulated system?
Or is necessary to have the true hardware?
AFAIK you can simply install Openmoko stack in any hardware, also in a
standard PC, simply follow the wiki [1]!
[1] http://tinyurl.com/6bkfpj
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Marcus Bauer wrote:
For all those who have missed it out, there is a company named Koolu
which is going to sell the Neo with Android. [1] CTO of Koolu is Jon
'maddog' Hall, quite a well known personality.
As another note, they just changed availability for developers from
March to June. Thus if
Mike Baroukh wrote:
Very good Idea !
just : if it has been stolen, the sim card will be changed. So may be,
each time the sim card is changed, an sms could automatically be send to
another number (so you have the new phone number and can continue to
communicate with it ...). Or, if gprs works,
Michael Shiloh ha scritto:
A generic solution can be built this way:
1. Locate a generic USB car charger e.g.
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10892. Make sure it can
supply at least 1A. Note in my example that the specs don't say this,
but if you look at the picture carefully
Alessandro Iurlano wrote:
My area too is poorly mapped. But what I think is that once someone
start using a commercial program because they need it, they will never
get back to a free project if it is not yet able to deliver the same
service.
That's untrue for me: also if sometimes I started
Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
* Track recall: if the device stores all your movements (or a rough list
of areas visited) for the last few days, you could recall where you've
been, when you came somewhere and when you left, which is sometimes
handy. This includes finding that place again if you
Alessandro Iurlano wrote:
Anyway I accept the idea of using commercial apps/maps until there's
nothing of usable for free and freely, since generally such tools become
useful when we're traveling in unknown places, and so that we can't map
on OMS without the help of others!
If everyone
joerg wrote:
AFAIK, the BL-?C will fit and power the device, but like bat for GTA01 they
have no telemetry (smart bat). So you won't get a bat-fuel-indicator with
nokia bat. Charging isn't quite tested i think.
That's an important thing imho...! Then I've read a thread on the kernel
list
rakshat hooja wrote:
1) will 30 fps VGA res playback be possible?
2) will it be possible to have 2d transition effects (like MAC OS/
Vista) be possible on the GUI without noticiable wait times.
3) Is any form of 3D acceleration support possible in the future for games?
I had those questions
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
I had those questions too, I think that when 3D specs of the Glamo chip
will be available, it will be possible to make some 3D-accelerated
tasks, but I've no idea about the performances of this chip. Anyway I
don't think it's so great...
Looking at the smedia
Ivo Anjo wrote:
Yeah, I agree, lack of usb host cable sucks, it is one of my favorite features.
I agree too, btw it's a few-euros device...
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Ugo Raffaele wrote:
I agree! One day I brought my Neo at school, going on foot to
test the AGPS reicever. It was *very* difficult to read on the screen!
Mhmmh... This might be a great problem... I heard/understood a
completely different thing about the Neo LCD!
Anyway I won't change my
Michael Shiloh ha scritto:
Hi everyone,
I just received a status report from our VP of Marketing, Steve Mosher:
The Freerunner design is currently staged to go through Production
Validation Test (PVT). The hardware design A5 is, we believe, solid. We
are updating this design to A6 to
Andy Powell wrote:
400USD != 400EUR
If this is an indication of the pricing for Europe, please arrange for some
European versions to get shipped to the USA where we can buy them and have
them shipped to Europe.
I do agree with you...!
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Andy Powell wrote:
TRIsoft 399$ would make 257 EUR
TRIsoft Shipping from China / Taiwan / US appr. $70 to Europe
TRIsoft is $469, makes 302 EUR
TRIsoft plus 19% VAT is 360 EUR for a self import at the actual price.
Well, I don't think that a seller buys the shipping of each phone $70...
Maybe
Michael Shiloh wrote:
If the community would like, I will update them on each and every stage.
(I've already answered yes for all of you :-)
Ehehe... I think you couldn't say differently :).
We're all waiting for DVT news, so! :P
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Magnus Alvestad ha scritto:
They are saved in evolution files in the root home directory. I don't
remember the exact path, but it's something like:
~root/.evolution/memos/memos.evo
Since When I'll have a freerunner I'd like to import my SMSs saved in my
actual mobile, I'd like to know the
Andy Green wrote:
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
Do you have some examples to post?
Thanks!
I didn't know any of this until Magnus said, but it seems it is like
this, additional texts appear between additional BEGIN:VJOURNAL /
END:VJOURNAL
# cat
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano ha scritto:
1) The Freerunner IS free, there are only some firmware things that
aren't open and that never will be open but they are only firmware, even
your PC run something which is not open source (BIOS, graphic card
firmware, cdrom firmware, every kind of firmware
Alexandre Ghisoli wrote:
We have seen the Freerunner working; it's quite fast and responsive with
a funny lock screen saying something about an Fruit Phone.
No videos for us? :P
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Michele Renda ha scritto:
As attachment there is an image that explain better my idea (png format)
Really cool... I had this idea too some weeks ago :P
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Andy Green ha scritto:
You're right, alternatively one with a short cable. Really this should
be part of the kit since you just can't actually use USB host without it.
I'm very happy to read this...!
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mac2k ha scritto:
If planning on using a FreeRunner as phone over WiFi you're
better off finding some SIP VoIP provider than using Skype
with its's proprietary protocol.
Why use closed software if the open source alternative could
do a better job.
I do totally agree with this, btw a skype
Robin Paulson ha scritto:
i spend a fair part of my time away from power points/computers and
having recently got a hand-crank powered torch, i realise this would
be the way to go for re-charging my neo.
I've one too... I've some connectors for commercial phones, but I don't
know how I could
Marcus Bauer ha scritto:
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 01:37 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Looking at the demos it seems to be a really good project, the support
for the OSM maps is good, but what about integrating support for
libgarmin to allow using also free and commercial garmin
maps
Jeff Andros ha scritto:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Thufir
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:23:07 +0100, kenneth marken wrote:
like pidgin for im support of any kind.
Now *that* is a cool idea :)
probably not pidgin itself, it's
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