Re: Community update, January 2, 2008

or it. Sounds like a perfect match. We look forward to seeing what you build. Having said that, I need to write a paper for an upcoming conference during which I'll be making just that point. All the best, Joseph Best wishes, Michael On 10/01/2008, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

Hi Jay, Thanks for your enthusiasm. Jay Vaughan wrote: We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues before determining whether we need to create another version of the board. We still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in the next few months. As always, we

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 10.01.2008 um 22:20 schrieb Michael Shiloh: We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues before determining whether we need to create another version of the board. We still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in the nex

Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

://youtube.com/watch?v=SZsps3bj6yE I've added a link to these at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Current_events. If anyone finds more, please add them here. Michael Lon Lentz wrote: Michael, Are you aware of any online sites that might have done any video of this? On Jan 10, 2008 4:20 PM, Mi

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

Hi Brad, I'm pretty sure that the only "new" things we mentioned were new hardware features: WiFi, faster processor, 2D/3D accelerator chip, and the accelerometers. Fixed GSM firmware is not new because that's already included in GTA01 units (those that shipped after we got the fixed firmwar

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

Nicolas Linkert wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:41:09 +0100, "Nils Faerber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: So buttomline is I would not see it *that* black. Let's hope for the new modem firmware since the modem is currently the biggest standby current eater. I was under the impression that the las

Re: Design of the outer edge of phone case

Zeth Green wrote: Warning: Totally frivolous post. The picture on the news.com site, has the word "FreeRunner" written at the bottom and a rather cool all black look (i.e. no transparent edge). Is this photo a fake or is it a real photo of the new case? http://linkpot.net/stenched/ That

CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

Hi Community, Can't remember if I told you this or not, but OpenMoko has decided to make available the CAD files detailing the NEO case. I'm pretty sure the format will be .dxf files. To my limited understanding of CAD, this seems pretty universal and easy to convert to the other formats.

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

Tim Niemeyer wrote: On another Thread was this: --- And please do get my message right - it is my *hope* that the new firmware will also improve PM since PM issues of the GSM are know to be caused by the firmware. There is no confirmation of this potential fix. Can anybody from Openmoko pleas

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

yes, dxf is spot on Thanks for the confirmation. great, now we can swing into action and get al those alternative cases designed and built I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situat

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know of several free editors that can import th

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

Robin Paulson wrote: On 15/01/2008, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. concrete! now there's an idea. http://w

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 11:14 AM, Jeremiah Flerchinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files shoul

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 12:52 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. A concrete phone? You can't

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

Daniel Barkalow wrote: Anyone have access to useful manufacturing tools? I have friends with CNC mills and lathes, and one with a water jet cutter. I have indirect access to 3D printers. Anything else interesting out there? http://www.candyfab.org/ Other phones make their owners angry. Ours

OpenMoko will be at SVHMPC meeting TONIGHT in Menlo Park

Hi, Sorry for the short notice. The monthly meeting of the Silicon Valley Homebrew Mobile Phone Club (SVHMPC) is tonight, and the topic is open source Linux frameworks for mobile devices. Google will discuss Android, and I'll discuss OpenMoko. The meeting is free and is held at The Tech Shop

Re: OpenMoko will be at SVHMPC meeting TONIGHT in Menlo Park

By the way, the wiki mentioned below is at http://hbmobile.org/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO_Pages The website is a useful resource in general, and OpenMoko is mentioned there too. Michael Michael Shiloh wrote: Hi, Sorry for the short notice. The monthly meeting of the Silicon Valley

Re: OpenMoko will be at SVHMPC meeting TONIGHT in Menlo Park

Good question, Jeffrey, and you suggest a question that I'd like to ask you, the community: Why do you chose to develop on OpenMoko, rather than on Android? Or do you do both? (Beside the lack of Android hardware) Michael Jeffrey Thomas wrote: I am unable to attend this meeting due to geo

Re: New to OpenMoko

Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Michael Barry Steele wrote: Hi, I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm

What are pros and cons of the different devel environments: qtopia, android, openmoko

Lorn reminds me that there is another option in the "open source Linux frameworks for mobile devices" space. (I think SVHMPC wanted to include Trolltech as well. Not sure what happened.) (And of course there are other options besides these three.) So the questions remain: What features make yo

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: Wolgang, someone made a wiki entry at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_case_schematics, so this would likely be a good place to place the Pro-E schematics for the Neo1973. I am preparing the right place to put the files. I have a question: "case schemati

Re: New to OpenMoko

hat it has been so well hidden from me as a wiki user - .. YOu will see at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories that the latest from * Official downloads * Recent/latest builds is 21 Nov and 1 Dec. clare. On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, B

RFC: OpenMoko meetings in Vienna? (Was: Re: OpenMoko will be at SVHMPC meeting TONIGHT in Menlo Park)

Jay, (I encourage everyone to change subject lines as necessary to reflect a shift in the topic) That's a great idea, and I hope it takes off. Hopefully someone from OpenMoko can visit at some point. In the future, we'd like to support these sort of meetings in some way. Michael Jay Vaugh

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

Robin Paulson wrote: On 18/01/2008, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am preparing the right place to put the files. I have a question: "case schematics" is the wrong name. What is the right name? "CAD Files"? "ID CAD Files"? "CAD Drawing

Re: New to OpenMoko

clare wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry! All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ Good luck and let us know how it goes, Hi

Re: GTA02 preorder please?

Tim Murphy wrote: I would like to propose asking the openmoko.com to add a preorder form for stable developer hardware platform. Something what they would consider a release candidate. This would allow for developers just like me to finally use th

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

Robin Paulson wrote: On 19/01/2008, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So I invite you all to help me organize this. It would be useful to create images of what's in these files, both high res and low res. It would be useful to have these files converted to other formats.

Re: Status of resellers (Was: GTA02 preorder please?)

Gilles Casse wrote: Hello Michael, So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers. Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France? Hi Gilles, I've asked for the status of this and will let

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

Michael Shiloh wrote: Robin Paulson wrote: On 19/01/2008, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So I invite you all to help me organize this. It would be useful to create images of what's in these files, both high res and low res. It would be useful to have these files c

Brief Community Update, January 24, 2008

A brief update: 1. Evaluation of GTA02A5 is taking place. There is some excellent discussion on the kernel list, e.g.: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000606.html http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-January/000538.html I believe no hardwar

Re: Brief Community Update, January 24, 2008

Thanks for your patience and continued support! Pratul Kalia wrote: As usual, we will not predict how long this will take, nor when we will start shipping GTA02. Waiting, waiting, sincerely... :) Pratul ___ OpenMoko community mailing list communit

Resellers / distributors for OpenMoko

We recently had a discussion about resellers and distributors. Here's the current status: 1. We have one confirmed distributor, in Germany: Christoph Pulster/CEO [EMAIL PROTECTED] P|U|L|S|T|E|R - Profi Organiser & Psion Banaterweg 5,

Re: And so with....

andy selby wrote: So in short, what happens after the GTA02? I think anyone who's involved in getting this device to market is not thinking that far ahead as their time is taken up with the GTA02 (now called Freerunner) ... that is cloud thinking at the moment. You answered your own quest

Re: Brief Community Update, January 24, 2008

will address it accordingly. Michael Nils Faerber wrote: What about the status of open issues like: - in the field firmware update for GSM on GTA01 V3 and V4? - standby power management of GSM in new GSM firmware? Cheers nils Michael Shiloh schrieb: A brief update: 1. Evaluation of GTA02

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

le to address this. Michael Will the GTA-01 ever be usable as an everyday-phone, or is the hardware to broken ? /Fredrik On Jan 14, 2008 8:24 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Tim Niemeyer wrote: > On another Thread was this:

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

tting GTA02 out. Hopefully shortly we will be able to address this. Michael Will the GTA-01 ever be usable as an everyday-phone, or is the hardware to broken ? /Fredrik On Jan 14, 2008 8:24 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Tim Niemeyer wrote

Re: GTA01 hacked Handset for testing 850MHz circuit for GTA02

Audio sounds good and Test call was a success. I will be sending the phone off to its next stop soon. Thanks to Michael Shiloh for arranging the test and i hope this leads to good things for the 850Mhz band ___ OpenMoko community mailing list comm

GTA02 powered USB host port and power management (Was: Re: Worries are gone? (was FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?))

Hi Oliver, Oliver wrote: Wow! That's really great news as that and battery time were my two main worries. It would be lovely if Michael could: 1) Confirm/Deny wether GTA02 will have a powered USB port GTA02 will have a powered USB port. 2) Go into more detail of how GTA02 power management ha

Re: Wiki - confusion

JW wrote: so did we get any official pronouncement from the Openmoko team yet? Are Wolfgang Spraul and me right (gta1=neo gta2=freerunner) Or is Piotr right (neo1973 = class of phones covering phase 0 and phase 1 incl gta01 and gta02 and only public release or phase2 = freerunner) Hope i rep

Re: Wiki - confusion

JW wrote: Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I haven't had a chance to triple-check, but I'm 99% sure it's this: GTA01 = Neo 1973 GTA02 = Neo FreeRunner Thus both are members of the Neo family. Michael wah! a third option :-) Ok will use this in Wiki from

Re: Wiki - confusion

separate, because they travel at different speeds :-) Wolfgang On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:00 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote: JW wrote: so did we get any official pronouncement from the Openmoko team yet? Are Wolfgang Spraul and me right (gta1=neo gta2=freerunner) Or is Piotr right (neo1973 = class

GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

(Please help by changing the subject when the topic changes) I'll look into this. Michael Denis wrote: The wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_GTA02_Hardware says "1200mAh lithium battery charges when connected to powered host", but the page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_G

Official distinction between Brand (Neo), Model (1973, FreeRunner), and version (GTA01, GTA02) (was: Re: Wiki - confusion)

s separate, because they travel at different speeds :-) Wolfgang On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:00 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote: JW wrote: so did we get any official pronouncement from the Openmoko team yet? Are Wolfgang Spraul and me right (gta1=neo gta2=freerunner) Or is Piotr right (neo1973 = class of phones cove

Appearance of Neo FreeRunner (Was: Re: Wiki - confusion)

Hi Kevin, I have looked into your question, and the official answer is that we are not going to discuss the appearance of the Neo FreeRunner until the product releases. Sincerely, Michael On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote: Hi Kevin, That's a good question. I don&#

Re: I dont know why I was surprised

Dear Christopher and the rest of the community. Thanks for your appreciation. Those of you who have been on this list for a long time will remember that this came up a number of times. It was only recently that we were finally able to come to some kind of a conclusion and release the CAD files

OpenMoko at Southern California Linux Expo: Come visit, or better, volunteer to help us at our booth for free admittance

Hi, Sorry for the late notice: OpenMoko will have a booth at the Southern California Linux Expo, taking place this weekend in LA: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/ Please come and introduce yourselves; I always like to meet our community and put faces to the email. I would especially appreci

Interview with Michael Shiloh about OpenMoko

I forgot to mention that the Southern California Linux Expo interviewed me as a warm-up to the show this weekend: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/blog/2008/02/03/interview-with-michael-shiloh-of-openmoko/ Feedback is always appreciated. Michael

Re: Appearance of Neo FreeRunner (Was: Re: Wiki - confusion)

actor" goodness in the oven. Alan Original Message: ----- From: Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:26:29 -0800 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Appearance of Neo FreeRunner (Was: Re: Wiki - confusion) Hi Kevin, I have looked into your questio

Re: OpenMoko at Southern California Linux Expo: Come visit, or better, volunteer to help us at our booth for free admittance

I should point out that these are full access passes, entitling you to attend all events at the conference. Michael Michael Shiloh wrote: Hi, Sorry for the late notice: OpenMoko will have a booth at the Southern California Linux Expo, taking place this weekend in LA: http

Re: now Koolu makes a phone too ;-)

Yes, Koolu is a distributor. Michael Doug Jones wrote: http://koolu.com/Koolu-WE-Appliance/WE-Phone.html looks kinda familiar ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community __

another interview about OpenMoko

Our friend Steve Lake interviewed me the other day: http://www.raiden.net/?cat=2&aid=374 I'm afraid he caught me just as my two mugs of morning espresso kicked in, and my sentences are a little long, for which I apologize. Hopefully you can read past that and sense my enthusiasm for this proje

Re: openmoko banner

We don't yet but we'll look into it. Sounds like a good idea. Michael Javi Roman wrote: Hi all, I wonder if OpenMoko has a banner advertisement (web banner, animated gif, ...) to promote in personal web sites. -Javi ___ OpenMoko community m

Re: OpenMoko at Southern California Linux Expo: Come visit, or better, volunteer to help us at our booth for free admittance

:-) Someday there will be a conference in Ohio :-) I'll look forward to meeting you there or elswhere, Christopher. Michael Christopher Earl wrote: Michael,. I swaer to god I would be there if i didnt live in Ohio, you get me to LA and ill go LOL Michael Shiloh &l

Re: now Koolu makes a phone too ;-)

Carlo E. Prelz wrote: Subject: Re: now Koolu makes a phone too ;-) Date: gio 07 feb 08 11:30:53 -0800 Quoting Michael Shiloh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Yes, Koolu is a distributor. mmm. They offer pre-order and quote a price of US$399. Available to developers this March. And

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

n the wiki that says something other than 1200mA, can you please make the correction? You may reference this email. Michael Michael Shiloh wrote: (Please help by changing the subject when the topic changes) I'll look into this. Michael Denis wrote: The wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wi

Re: ***SPAM*** (was : Re: FAQ Interactive, Funny Images and Videos Online)

Yup. I already brought it to the attention of our list superuser, who will remove this spammer. Michael Steven Le Roux wrote: Just for the record... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

ry life will be like in the GTA02 yet? I suppose we won't get that until it's actually in the hands of developers. On Feb 8, 2008 6:23 AM, Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 4:04 AM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

Marcus Bauer wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 01:04 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote: Hello, I've researched this a little, and this is what I've learned: 1. We are still looking at a number of different batteries, so there is no "final" capacity or feature set determined ye

community updates

Hi, I apologize for not providing my bi-weekly update. I've been very busy answering email and updating GSM firmware, and have not had a chance to gather information and write the update. Briefly, we continue to test revision 5 of FreeRunner, GTA02A5. There are still items remaining to test,

Re: Interview with Raider Realm

Hi Christopher, and the entire community, Christopher Earl wrote: I read the Raiders Realm interview with Michael Shiloh Here is the excerpt I will am talking about "RR: So is all of the hardware you have for this FCC certified and ready to use on different networks? MS: Yup. Absol

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

Nick Guenther wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 4:04 AM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I've researched this a little, and this is what I've learned: 1. We are still looking at a number of different batteries, so there is no "final" capacity or feature s

Re: now Koolu makes a phone too ;-)

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 08.02.2008 um 08:30 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Yes, Koolu is a distributor. Michael I thought that there are no distributors defined yet except the one in Germany mentioned recently? The updating of the web page seems to be lagging a little. I'

Re: Wiki - New Page - OpenMoko Community Applications

Hi JW, This is wonderful. Thanks for coming up with the idea and for implementing it. I look forward to seeing more applications on this page. Regards, Michael JW wrote: Hi OpenMoko Community, I was thinking about the target market for Neo FreeRunner - the non-geek smartphone user. There

Re: Openmoko not on CeBIT 2008

Hi Tim, Two answers: 1. Limited resources, and especially now that we are trying to get GTA02 out of the door, we have to consider the cost of sending someone to such an event 2. CeBIT is a more consumer oriented event, and we don't have a consumer item to show Michael Tim Niemeyer wrote

Re: Interview with Michael Shiloh about OpenMoko

Steven Le Roux wrote: On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:41:56 -0800, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I forgot to mention that the Southern California Linux Expo interviewed me as a warm-up to the show this weekend: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/blog/2008/02/03/interview-with-michael-shi

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps & mapping software for the Neo

Hi Marcus, This looks very useful. I will try to test this out. Thanks very much for your contribution, Michael Marcus Bauer wrote: Hello, I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for Openmoko/Neo. It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching t

community contributed gsmd testing framework

Hi Kero, This is excellent. Thanks! Can you add this to the appropriate wiki page? Regards, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I wrote a little gsmd testing framework, with the hope it can be used to stabilize (lib)gsmd. You can find an initial release on: http://chmeee.dyndns.org/o

Community Update Wed Feb 13 2008

Hi everyone, This is actually a recap of last week in the engineering department. I was away at SCALE and am busy catching up. We received our first batch of 10 fully assembled GTA02 A5 boards. There are still some issues with the manufacturing test software that needs to be fixed before we

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

Uncle Kridley wrote: Michael Shiloh wrote: We are well aware of software changes we need to make in order to improve battery and have simply not had the time to do this. You can expect much better battery life when we implement these changes. [...] that my very simple testing suggests

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

e good news, everyone keep up the good work! -Kyle On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Nick Guenther wrote: > On Feb 8, 2008 4:04 AM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

. When it comes down to it, the Neo is a phone first, and I'd rather have it act as such when I'm in a bind. ~Bradley Michael Shiloh wrote: Nick Guenther wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 4:04 AM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I've researched this a little, and th

Request for assistance: Need a wiki page for buying and selling GTA01

Hi Community, I need your help. Having completely sold out of GTA01, we are still getting a large number of requests for them. On the other hand, many of you intend to purchase a GTA02 and perhaps feel you have no use for your GTA01. Some of you might have other reasons to sell your GTA01.

Re: PS3 Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Moko

Hi Christopher, This is valuable information. I'm pretty sure a wiki page exists for identifying hardware that is compatible with OpenMoko. Can you find that page and add this item? This is particularly interesting to me because I need such a keyboard. Thanks, Michael Christopher Earl wrote

Re: Request for assistance: Need a wiki page for buying and selling GTA01

wiki page to point at such eBay listings, in case anyone has difficulty finding them on eBay. So, I propose we re-purpose our wiki page to indicate eBay listings, perhaps sorted simply into "BUYING" and "SELLING". Sound like a plan? I thank you all for your input. Michael

Re: Request for assistance: Need a wiki page for buying and selling GTA01

ty mailing list. Is this wanted or would anyone be annoyed by it? I'm not really sure but it would probably be the most effective way to find a buyer for your phone. Ortwin On 2/19/08, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks everyone for your feedback. As a number of you poi

Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

Hello, A number of times you have asked about pre-orders. Here is the official word from our VP of Marketing: Over the next couple of months you will see the following 3 announcements: 1. When the production hardware is solid and signed off, we will announce pricing and availability. That is

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

Ivo Anjo wrote: 3. When the phones reach the distribution centers in Europe and USA, we will open the web store and begin taking orders. Does this mean that it will be possible to purchase openmoko from inside the EU, so there are no random customs taxes? That would be great! Hi Ivo, Th

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

distribute the FreeRunner in Canada. On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 10:56 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote: Hello, A number of times you have asked about pre-orders. Here is the official word from our VP of Marketing: Over the next couple of months you will see the following 3 announcements: 1. When the

Re: questions about Neo FreeRunne

Tom, note that the phone 850MHz phone is a custom 1973, and not a Freerunner. Shawn, your subject says Freerunner, but did you mean all Neos? The radio in the Freerunner is essentially the same as 1973. Michael Tom Russell wrote: Shawn wrote: Does anyone currently use a Neo on T-mobile's ne

OpenMoko at O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference

I'll be representing Openmoko at the O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference in San Diego next week, and would welcome the opportunity to meet any of you attending. In my talk on Thursday I'll talk about the connection between Openmoko, innovation, and ubiquitous computing: http://en.oreilly

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

Andre Lanvermann wrote: Oooh, the it seems i missunderstood the previous Messages. I was sure that there is NO Charger for the NEO Except the USB Port of a Computer. Im sorry :( Greetings Andre Hi Andre, and welcome to the project. You have to distinguish between the two models of Neo.

Re: Google Summer of Code

Openmoko will be participating, and I'll be organizing. I wasn't involved last year so my first task will be to find out what I have to do. Michael Oliver Uvman wrote: As you all probably know, the summer of code 2008 has been announced, and now is the time for organisations to start readying

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

Bobby, I'm glad you posted this again, I've been meaning to tell you I'll be happy to host your script on downloads.openmoko.org. Shall I just copy the script from your host? Michael Bobby Martin wrote: In case some of you aren't on the device owners list I posted this to before, I created

Re: iPhone Acquired!

Do you have an AT&T SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone? (I know you said you didn't get an AT&T contract.) I'd be very interested in whether that SIM card works in a Neo. Michael Kyle Bassett wrote: Well, through some mysterious events within the past few days and some favors people owe

Coolest thing at ETech (other than Openmoko :-) ): Fireeagle

Take a look at this and think about what we can do on Openmoko with this: www.fireeagle.com Still in beta. Drop me a line if you want an invitation. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/ma

Re: Open source / Open Standard CAD development?

I just returned from ETech, the emerging technology conference, and some of us discussed this problem. (In fact, the conversation started because of the Openmoko release of Freerunner CAD files.) All programming languages have a common source code form: ascii text. In contrast, there is no such

Re: Similarity of GTA01 and GTA02 cases

See http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ for CAD files, but you'll need ProE to open the Freerunner files. 1973 available in ProE, IGES, and STEP. I hope to find someone to convert those ProE files to other formats. Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: Sorry, to respond to myself, but I just remembered s

A bit of fun - freerunner and the wisdom of crowds

A while back, Hans Loeblich asked how many GTA01s were made, and how quickly they sold. Here is the answer from Steve Mosher, our VP of marketing: "We wanted to limit distribution to serious development engineers. The total build over the life of the product was less than 5000. By any measure t

Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

Hello, As most of you know, there was a bug in earlier GSM firmware on Neo 1973 which prevented certain AT&T 3G SIM cards from working in the Neo 1973. As most of you know, the upgraded GSM firmware that fixed this problem could only be installed by an employee of Openmoko. I peformed this

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

Jae Stutzman wrote: Weird. I suppose this same SIM works in other phones (non neos)? Yes; it works perfectly in the AT&T provided Nokia. Do you have another AT&T sim to try? Sadly, no, so the single SIM is a concern. Does the SIM keep track of what phones it is inserted into? Tha

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

g where I live. -id Michael Shiloh wrote: Hello, As most of you know, there was a bug in earlier GSM firmware on Neo 1973 which prevented certain AT&T 3G SIM cards from working in the Neo 1973. As most of you know, the upgraded GSM firmware that fixed this problem could only be in

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

but likely not inside a building. GSMWorld.com states that T-Mobile only uses 1900MHz: http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/net_uswe.shtml ... and that AT&T uses 850/1900: http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/net_usb3.shtml And since the Neo cannot operate at 850MHz, it means I'm o

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

ml And since the Neo cannot operate at 850MHz, it means I'm only using 1900MHz. -id Michael Shiloh wrote: Do you know offhand what bands are used by TMobile and AT&T in your area? Michael ian douglas wrote: If it helps any, using the March 4th daily build, my Neo registers just f

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

. Michael ian douglas wrote: Michael Shiloh wrote: I checked the map, and I'm in the same situation as you: 1900 and 850. But I notice the maps are not maintained by the providers. How do we know they are up to date? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile "The US T-Mobile network

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

It's really very simple. Someone hack one together, take pictures, and describe it on a wiki page. As Andy says, once we chickens find our heads we can consider whether to turn these into products or not. Michael Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the

Openmoko name update

Hi everyone, We've decided to drop the capitol letter in the middle of our name. From now on we are Openmoko. As far as Freerunner is concerned, we're still testing and verifying the trial production runs, and as I mentioned before, much discussion about the testing and what is being discove

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

Hi everyone, I'm trying to get some sort of a concrete update from the team in Taiwan. I'll let you know as soon as I do. Thanks, Michael Andrea Debortoli wrote: Michael told "next couple of months"...a month ago, and no announcement has been released yet... 2008/3/16, JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

Christoph Witzany wrote: JW schrieb: On 16/03/2008, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So please, give us some words about delays if there are any... NO! You don't get these words from Openmoko You already know what you get 1) full access to kernel/dev discussio

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

Very well put, Michele, and others who have said similar things. I was describing this project to a friend, and for awhile he thought this was just another cellphone or PDA. Then suddenly his eyes lit up and he said "Aha! I see. It's much more than a phone or a PDA". It's people who have that

Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano ha scritto: 1) The Freerunner IS free, there are only some firmware things that aren't open and that never will be open but they are only firmware, even your PC run something which is not open source (BIOS, graphic card firmware, cdro

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