ut posters
What should be the message of such posters?
nobody on this list can answer that.
we're not *that* type of people. you
need input from outside.
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without being too presumptious on the consumers taste.
I dont think design should be democratic process,
though its a Good Thing we can discuss it :-)
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Keeping in mind huge Ubuntu's users base, this might be quite a chance
for GTA04 or it's successor, to have a lot of new users and a way enter
mass production.
Ima buyin ! Where's the lineup ?
cu
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ut if you want to
"change the world fundamentally", take the branding
seriously all the way. Learning from Apple ?
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t; is not going to be pronounced as "foʊn" by anyone ?
It will be "Feenugs" in most peoples mouth, as in
Phoenic, Phoenicians and Phoenicopteriformes ( flamingos :-) )..
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substitution medication." :-)
For the record, I never liked "moko"
either. Too German.
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g to the old storage,
cleaning that up, and returning to the new storage would help.
I've learned to live with it :-/
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>> their MiniBook.
> I would buy it, if it was wrist mountable; sort of a slide in mount on
> my wrist.
I would buy it. Full stop :-)
I cant find any demo videoos on the minibook ?
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> Please note Linux is a Torvalds (TM). TM stands for total monopol. Or
> terrible monster.
> Torvalds is evil. Linux is no free OS.
huh ?
ok, troll. please, lets leave him there.
dont respond to this mail !
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#x27;open' ..
I know nothing about hardware. I'm willing
to pay 100euro extra for a developer who
delivers the brick with a working FSO-based
distribution on it. And documents how its done.
Who follows ? :-D
is it possible at all ?
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has this
SHR-U: Empty VT on resume
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ever been solved ? I've basicly stopped taking my phone
with me once this has started. people refer to me as the
guy with the open-no-phone :-)
thanks,
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phone that uses FSO ? SHR-t ? Debian ?
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(*) after deep sleep, it returns to a black
window with a blinking cursor - looks like x
doesnt start. after reboot, i get the wellknown
"unknown boot option g_ether_bla", i get the
pinguin for a while, then it returns to
"
h_history, etc.
Is it just me ?
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rshell anymore :-/ It depends on libsdl and
libvorbis, but shr-u uses libsdl-ttf-2.0-0 and libvorbis0
(i'm guessing these are the intended packages)..
cu
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sting the ipkg myself;
based on the one you created.
A question: why is that file different than
the ipkg described by QTopia
http://qtextended.org/modules/developers/qtopia.php?linkFile=developers/IPKG_Howto
or even here
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BuildingIpkgs
In these descriptions, the con
usly, if there is screen interactivity
allowed in the application where you'd need
the keyboard (I mean, if it has buttons), you'll
have problems overlaying it with a transparent
keyboard.
Which can be solved. I'm curious what you
have in mind. Y
:
> thone
> sms
>> sms grep: /home/root/.thone/ppl.cache/*ppl: No such file or directory
that's fixed in 0.6
>> sms list
> * updating sms.cache..
> /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages/Query: Query failed:
> org.freede
something fixed in 0.6 already? (I'll try in few minutes..)
>
I don't think so - never seen it.
Let me check if I can repeat it.
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a makefile.
> BTW: Haven't seen your real name to fill AUTHOR field properly.. but
> nick will be enough if it is intentional ;) .
Yeah, "pike" will do :-)
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Let me know if you need anything.
for example .. I've put the tarbal up on google code but
I could put the sources under public svn there if thats
easier ?
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ingerShell [2], prettier :-)
But to be honest, I'm not there yet.
I learned the nitgrit of bash, sed and awk along
the way; most of the code already looks like
babytalk to me now, but well it works.
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[2] http:/
if I select the SIM
as a backend for sms messages. It looks
like SQLite is implemented somewhere
between PIM and SIM. If that's documented
somewhere, I'm afraid I couldn't find it.
Can anyone confirm that, or is there
something wrong with my installatio
2 mentioned images (jffs2 and bin)
to my neo. over usb. in the right order.
that was usually all i had to do, if i sticked
to the same bootloader. somebody correct me
if my memory is wrong.
Isn't there a similar wrapper for windows ?
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>> Yes, or “One should do as he or she likes.”.
> Or use "they":
> "People can do as they like"
I usually use s/he.
I wish there was a form
for his/er (her/is), too...
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I see all those 'W' links in Google maps.
A perfect travelguide. WikiTravelMate.
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ty layout to be the most comfi too.
in the default keyboard in fatfingershell the keys
are high rather than wide. I estimate my fingertips
are about 160 wide (and 80 high). I found I could
use ffshell flawlessly when holding it vertical :-)
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und the second
character that makes it use the dictionray
prediction.
One character I was instantly missing was
the ":". I had to use the 'Terminal' layout
to type a smiley :-)
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finds and sticks to that. I have them
all working now, but raster's keyboards
are swimming in a pool of empty greyness.
Great though - I'll stick to those.
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Very nice. I want it. I guess I'll try
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume_keyboard#How_to_install_a_new_layout
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but in the code where char *keyreleased() is
defined, the key sent to the terminal is a
asci code taken from an array that is
read from the config file on startup.
if that could be a string instead of a asci
char .. the rest would up to the designers of
a layout.
excited,
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l".
So, I've been playing on an adapted/finetuned
bash - where for example autocompletion also
takes your call history and addressbook into
account :-) "c[tab] pi[tab]" would "call pike".
It would work in vala-terminal just as well.
But still, just playing.
I'm
n" could be as quick as
typing "s[tab] @j[tab]".
no gui is ever going to beat that :-)
- a nice opk package :-)
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y information, what is the 'default'
background color in the 'sms/read' window
in the 'messages' application on SHR ? and
does anyone know where that is set (just checked-
its not GTK).
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any idea ?
[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Settings:_Others
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> i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will
> reset to the original settings
I managed to log in through wifi - boy am i
glad i made a desktop icon for activating my home
wifi :-) - and deleting ~/.e did it.
thanks!
cause that is in the
topbar to. plus, i can't ssh into the machine
at this point - probably something with
/etc/default/dropbear, but I can't change
that without a terminal (and a keyboard) too.
s .. i'm stuck ? reflash it ?
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But as you've noticed, you can't upload pictures there ..
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way to revert them back to their original
settings ? I was thinking to opkg-remove,
opkg-install something ?
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sound out of my external speakers - ffalarms
wasn't much good without it. And in
fact, that
on't seem to be eager for such
contributions ..
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n, but it can't ? It also killed
my phone at the time, and i had to pop the
battery (again..), but retrying it now my
phone survives.
Is it a known issue, or not an issue at all ?
I can't find anything about it.
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you can fix that by changing from HAL to Internal
> in battery meter settings (and after changing - reboot)
that was it. in illume, topbar, wrench,
advanced, battery meter, advanced, set
from "auto" to "internal", and reboot.
pulling the battery and praying for
5 minutes didnt h
Hi
> I gave it a try and wrote an FSO based phone app in Qt.
> http://pvtrace.com/litephone/litephone1.png
Looks very nice !
The liter the better.
Have you got more screensnaps ?
What does it look like with a keyboard ?
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> You didn't mention the distro (or I missed it)
sorry, om2009 (didnt think it would matter).
I only have one battery (??) and USB was not connected,
so it can't be HAL being confused about that.
I'll take out the battery for an hour and see
x27;,
>>> 'present': '1',
>>> 'status': 'Charging',
>>> 'technology': 'Li-ion',
>>> 'temp': '313',
>>> 'time_to_empty_now': '138840',
>&
'online': '1',
> 'present': '1',
> 'status': 'Charging',
> 'technology': 'Li-ion',
> 'temp': '313',
> 'time_to_empty_now': '138840',
>
Hi
Since this week, my battery isnt charging to the fullest anymore.
This didnt just gradually change, but happened 'all of a sudden'.
It charges - connected to the charger - up to ~50% of its capacity
and doesnt seem to go any further.
Did anyone else experience this ?
curio
gt; Oh, that's been solved already. Even GSM supports multi-party calls.
>
strange, i've never seen it in day-to-day usage.
can't do it on my phone afaik ?
> 'ok sue, lets ask him - tuut - hi
> john, its sue and dan he
ould be possible if
only one of the connected devices could
do that.
just dreaming..
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crazy - if this helps we should update
the om wiki page to mention this, ehr, feature)
you *can* put multiple maps in one mapset, though.
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gt; Display enabled
>
> # power up wifi
> mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced \
> /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/WiFi \
> org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.SetPower True
>
> # bounce eth
> mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd
returns only errors. is that normal ?
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FSO straight from the command line ?
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t by reading examples...
Indeed, it wasnt easy. For me.
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uot;activate" mean
in paroli ? what does it do ?
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Hi
and another one - I have scripts to connect
to my wifi, several ways, it all works, but
only after I "activated" the wifi driver.
The only way I know how to do that is through
Paroli settings. Is there a way to do it
from the command line ?
than
t i'm afraid i will
hurt its display one of these days :-/
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>> But I could sit in the train in peace.
> And while on that train, did you see the light at the end of the tunnel?
no, sorry, i was staring at a black terminal
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to tap the screen for 5 seconds. Had to reboot.
Still dont know how to turn sleep off in om2009.
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# echo qvga-normal > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state
# dm
I did get it to work, temporarily.
> Also, you did not very clearly specify if you are using Xglamo or
> Xorg with xserver-xorg-video-glamo.
because I wouldn't have a clu
starting xserver-nodm twice repairs it.
what am i doing wrong ?
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PS - I installed opendoom - it has the same
problem, its trying to rotate the screen
into 320x240, but the screen goes yellow
most of the time.. which is why I w
Hi
>>> ~pike$ ping 192.168.0.200
>> Try at 192.168.0.202 :-)
eeeuuh... :-)
> ~ pike$ ssh r...@192.168.0.202
> r...@192.168.0.202's password:
> r...@om-gta02:~#
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Not sure when this started, but it might
be since flashing to om2009 release5:
I can't ssh into my Neo any more.
Not over wifi, and not over usb.
> ~pike$ ping 192.168.0.200
> [..]
> --- 192.168.0.200 ping statistics ---
> 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% pack
boolean) with buttons
on each side:
(-) hour:07 (+)
(off) alarm (on)
sort of an 'old school' lateral slider :-)
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and I tried to set it up, but didnt get
a BEEP working sofar :-) Does anyone know
how to beep() ?
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>> Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now. I look
>> forward to the improvements a lot.
In case there's anybody as stupid as me out
there, don't try that from within the
Illume vala-terminal :-)
> Did you remember to remo
Hi
> I like the settings button on screen (I don't like more the use of the
> AUX Button, I think that is not much intuitive).
That's easy, actually. Edit
/usr/share/paroli/Applications/Settings/settings.py
to change "category" to "launcher". I d
ole line
quickly hilites before the screen changes.
A line can have several secondary (small, grey, lowercased)
options. If you click it, only the font color quickly
switches before the screen changes.
I think this differentation is usefull, as it gives a user
an idea about th
Hi
>> We are in,
>> task 2 done you can see and download them at
>> http://www.tuxbrain.com/node/19
ok - I have similar screenshots at
http://pike.kw.nl/browse/files/projects/pike/2009/om2009/parolishots
I was aiming at a more graphic redesign, so
it includes screenshots wi
I don't like
>> edje very much from the looks of it.
>
> Yeah, Im almost done, with the most basic and urgent
> improvements (back button everywhere).
Great - sorry - that's not what I meant - I
meant, I don't like edje as a gui language.
I was taught t
might have a
few spare evenings to do some more.
Otherwise, I might still make a text
version of the 'few optimisations' I
could think of, anyway.
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>> But the current one - shipping
>> with om2009 - is pretty good.
..
>> What keyboard is it anyway ? Is it listed here
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate ?
>
> It's the Illume one.
It's Raste
's been progress..
What keyboard is it anyway ? Is it listed here
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate ?
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t; somewhere were u are MORE likely to actually hit a key as opposed to hit
> nothing.
and equally more likely to hit the wrong one,
since that space is filled up too. hitting
no key is not so bad. hitting the wrong one
is annoying.
I believe in i
Hi
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/OM2009_first_run
>
> Well, about first question - don't use u-boot, try Qi, and it will
> boot on short click :P
oh great - and i hadn't even noticed :-D
qi is going to be the default bootloader - so i removed th
27;ve put it on the wiki.
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ink lower levels could give some more
feedback, too. Eg, the aux and power buttons
send a dbus signal every second they are pressed,
but that's counterintuitive to me - if it
would flash or buzz every second too, i might
be inclined to wait - and count. And even
lower, when booting the ph
of that
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863
When I first saw paroli, it struck me. That's
one way to avoid the problem. Minimalism. That's
easier to be consistent, at least.
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I
encountered.
If anyone is interested, I can mail
it offlist - or put it on the wiki ?
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> I'm keeping a list of a few optimisations i
> can think of; i'll fill it over the next few
> days;
.. and i'll add them to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-themes
as a 'design concept', if that seems appropriate.
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t over the next few
days; but they're really minor, mostly just
a matter of finetuning edje files, probably.
> I really respect the work that Mirko is doing with Paroli.
Second that ! Great job !
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fter all, not understanding the documentation is probably
my expertise :-) And thanks for your considerate and patient
response.
yay - " D O N E "
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but you asked for it :-D
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ersion, neither on the
"Flashing" page;
The instructions on the Flashing page
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
sound very scary, and I am not inclined
to do that yet.
Is upgrading the frimware required to
install 2009/testing ? My hardware has
been fine using QTExtended.
evolve, or gestures ...
my vote: QWO around the corners of the screen.
typing input changes focus to qwo, so you can
scratch all over the screen, and when you're done
focus returns to the application. no screen
estate lost :-)
ehm, make th
here, it's off by default.
[1]
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but the latter two options have success
when the icon is showing (which may be caused
by something else that's being changed by the
application that also shows the icon, ofcourse).
in any case, when I ever get to write a
script that works properly, i want to
show the icon, as wel
there is no font to my liking there.
Any other fonts in any other packages ? I'm trying
to find a font similar to the qtopia or illume
keyboard; just legible.
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