Re: Changing IMEI of Freerunner with Firmware Flash

2015-05-11 Thread Spacefalcon the Outlaw
Rash wrote: > is it possible for data protection reason to change the IMEI of the > freerunner via firmware? The instructions are right here: https://www.freecalypso.org/leo2moko/ffs-edit-kit.html Please also note that the FreeCalypso community now has its own general info website (www.freecal

Changing IMEI of Freerunner with Firmware Flash

2015-05-11 Thread Rash
Hi, is it possible for data protection reason to change the IMEI of the freerunner via firmware? There was a leak of the firmware of the GSM modem, so it might be possible. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-22 Thread Ben Wong
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline > > Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste > time on the kernel instead of working

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 19:22:00 Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: > > > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > >> the kernel controls the power drain. > > > > > > How has

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 19:22:00 Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: > > > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > >> the kernel controls the power drain. > > > > > > How has

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: > > > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > >> the kernel controls the power drain. > > > > How has that been determined? > > Please find the answer an

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.02.2014 um 10:36 schrieb Michael Spacefalcon: >> I invite every = >> remaining Openmoko GTA01/02 owner to cannibalize their device for a = >> GTA04A5 motherboard. > > There is a special place in Hell reserved for murderers of good free > hardware like you. ROFL - you are believing in Hell

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> the kernel controls the power drain. > > How has that been determined? Please find the answer and tell us about the results. ___ Openmo

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-21 Thread David Matthews
> >Please don't polemize! ROTFL - are you asking me not to bring disagreement here? Incidentally - you're input on the IMEI topic (and much else), is not unappreciated (by me), but freeing the GSM firmware is *cool* Best wishes -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___

Re: (was: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
ves has zero worth Please don't polemize! Nobody has told you that you're foolish. You do that now, about those of us who question the purpose of changing IMEI (something that got lost in your mail's topic, as well as the thread reference that would've put this into contex

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:54:23 Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > the kernel controls the power drain. > > How has that been determined? Your initial rant sounded much similar to the plot: blame the architect for not working on the electrics

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:54:23 Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > the kernel controls the power drain. > > How has that been determined? Roughly same way as Pi -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > the kernel controls the power drain. How has that been determined? -- Bob Ham for (;;) { ++pancakes; } signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Ope

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:36:59 Michael Spacefalcon wrote: > VLR, > SF Do yourself a favor and ask some of your friends with a more down-to-earth mindset before you ever again consider posting such mails. When you don't get it, go and ask your friends, maybe they also can explain to you why I

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-21 Thread Liz
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:10:23 +0100 Radek Polak wrote: > Well, IMO you should always start with something simple and working. > I'd been happy if Freerunner was running from day 0 simple, reliable, > power management friendly distro with "Accept call" and "Read SMS". > Community does the rest. th

Re: changing IMEI

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:17:26 Neal H. Walfield wrote: > > And no, you probably can't use a VPN to have only encrypted data > > transferred over the air. I don't think there are any free and open VPN > > endpoints available. > > Using Tor avoids this problem. Check it out: > https://www.torpro

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-21 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Radek Polak wrote: > But there are other points of view. E.g. some people expect the phone ring > when friends/wife/customer calls. Yes, that's exactly what I seek out of my cellphone too. And that is why I require having the source for all sw/fw involved in this telephony function, so when it

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.02.2014 um 10:03 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline > > Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste > time on the kernel instead of working on th

Re: changing IMEI

2014-02-21 Thread Neal H. Walfield
At Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:31:46 +0100, joerg Reisenweber wrote: > On Thu 20 February 2014 15:27:33 Neal H. Walfield wrote: > > Why do you think the only use for a mobile phone is to make calls? If > > I only make a data connection and am careful to tunnel all of my data > > via Tor, then this identif

Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:03:47 Bob Ham wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline > > Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste > time on the kernel instead of working

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-21 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday, February 21, 2014 09:15:27 AM joerg Reisenweber wrote: > > Openmoko is different - they never provided SW for reliable phone. > > Openmoko never provided stable maintainable kernel - instead they wasted > > their time on doing 4 ugly unusable distros while at the time they had > > perfe

GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Ham
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste time on the kernel instead of working on the problems that prevent the board being used? Why a

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-21 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 08:26:59 Radek Polak wrote: > On Thursday, February 20, 2014 08:38:35 PM Michael Spacefalcon wrote: > > I am also convinced that the *real* reason why "Openmoko = failure" in > > the general public's perception is precisely because of that NDA and > > no one having broken it

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-20 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.02.2014 um 08:26 schrieb Radek Polak: > On Thursday, February 20, 2014 08:38:35 PM Michael Spacefalcon wrote: > > > I am also convinced that the *real* reason why "Openmoko = failure" in > > the general public's perception is precisely because of that NDA and > > no one having broken it d

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-20 Thread Radek Polak
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 08:38:35 PM Michael Spacefalcon wrote: > I am also convinced that the *real* reason why "Openmoko = failure" in > the general public's perception is precisely because of that NDA and > no one having broken it during the years when it mattered the most. That's your p

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-20 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > You are a Pied Piper of Hamelin. I don't mind the role. Check out The Stolen Child, poem/song by William Butler Yeats - I particularly like this rendition: http://www.elvendrums.com/cddragon.php VLR, SF ___ Openmok

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-20 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 07:48:02 joerg Reisenweber wrote: > On Fri 21 February 2014 07:29:28 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > Of course it will never happen legally, but so what? We can build it > > > illegally instead. > > > > You are a Pied Piper of Hamelin. > > Let's hope we don't have t

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-20 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 21 February 2014 07:29:28 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Of course it will never happen legally, but so what? We can build it > > illegally instead. > > You are a Pied Piper of Hamelin. Let's hope we don't have to read "Pied Piper Revisited" or learn about some landslide or somesuch

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-20 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Of course it will never happen legally, but so what? We can build it > illegally instead. You are a Pied Piper of Hamelin. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: changing IMEI

2014-02-20 Thread Andreas Kemnade
Hi, On 20 Feb 2014 12:05:00 +0100 openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) wrote: > > I remember adverts of Openmoko in capitals "100% FREE mobile". > that this was a false promise comes evident afterwards. > the knowledge about NDA restrictions of GSM components is still today > only in some ge

Re: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-20 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Thu 20 February 2014 20:38:35 Michael Spacefalcon wrote: > was a proprietary > phone no different from anything out of Motorola, Samsung or Apple. evidently bullshit! -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments (alas the

Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI)

2014-02-20 Thread Michael Spacefalcon
openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) wrote: > I remember adverts of Openmoko in capitals "100% FREE mobile". > that this was a false promise comes evident afterwards. I wonder how many people forked over their $$$ for those expensive Openmoko phones primarily in the hope that the bloody NDA wo

Re: changing IMEI

2014-02-20 Thread Nick
joerg Reisenweber wrote: > On Thu 20 February 2014 15:27:33 Neal H. Walfield wrote: > > and am careful to tunnel all of my data > > via Tor > > Err, right. For that usecase it might work - until you do > *anything* that gives away your ID You still have location anonymity though. An adversary may

Re: changing IMEI

2014-02-20 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Thu 20 February 2014 15:27:33 Neal H. Walfield wrote: > and am careful to tunnel all of my data > via Tor Recent tests have revealed that at least 20 nodes in Tor are trying to break into your encrypted data transmission. It'd widely known that Tor is infiltrated by agencies. /j -- () ascii

Re: changing IMEI

2014-02-20 Thread elhennig
> Why do you think the only use for a mobile phone is to make calls? If > I only make a data connection and am careful to tunnel all of my data > via Tor, then this identification method is useful. Maybe because we are talking about a GSM modem? -- n...@el-hennig.de Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic

Re: changing IMEI

2014-02-20 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Thu 20 February 2014 15:27:33 Neal H. Walfield wrote: > Why do you think the only use for a mobile phone is to make calls? If > I only make a data connection and am careful to tunnel all of my data > via Tor, then this identification method is useful. > > Neal Err, right. For that usecase it

Re: changing IMEI

2014-02-20 Thread Neal H. Walfield
out tracking > > (location of caller), > > me neither since that's absolutely trivial > > > > but identification of caller. > > me too > > > > If I buy a mobile, name is registered and connected with IMEI. > > Depends. > > > >

Re: changing IMEI

2014-02-20 Thread joerg Reisenweber
ation of caller. me too > If I buy a mobile, name is registered and connected with IMEI. Depends. > Using a Openmoko and changing IMEI with Michaels tool does make a "new" > device out of it. Logfiles cant be law prooven evident of my identity. Sorry, that's a dan