On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 19:08 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
On 1/5/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i'm not sure that i'll find the time for an article but - if there
unfortunately isn't anyone out there with a literary itch to scratch - i
will create a basic document over in
Mark Thomas wrote:
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
I think ignoring is an excellent tactic for a developer's list. I worry
that isn't strong enough for a user's list, but I also wouldn't want to
embark on a path that could backfire.
Not exactly the same situation as yours but one of our users
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Mark Thomas wrote:
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
I think ignoring is an excellent tactic for a developer's list. I worry
that isn't strong enough for a user's list, but I also wouldn't want to
embark on a path that could backfire.
Not exactly the same situation as
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Mark Thomas wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
what thickness of skin should be required of participants on our lists?
Thick enough to take to criticism, whether it be right or wrong, and
to respond in a positive manner.
Personal attacks of any form or degree are not
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 09:07 -0800, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
robert burrell donkin wrote:
I'll look at the jakarta lists for how the OT FUD was handled.
LOL!
i hope you're going to be looking for anti-patterns :)
IIRC jakarta didn't exactly have a good record for avoiding flamewars.
back in
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
We may disagree as his clueful:clueless ratio, but we can agree that he is
just snarky. But on a related note, what thickness of skin should be
required of participants on our lists?
Thick enough to take to criticism, whether it be right or wrong, and
to respond in a
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
On Dec 16, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
derby-user@db.apache.org has been grappling with someone who
delights in belittling other posters on the list. The topic was
raised on women@ (see the thread starting with http://mail-
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 19:22 -0800, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
For crying out loud, would you please supply links to the exact posts
you consider to be in poor taste and the person's name? I just
wasted
10 minutes trying to follow the
Mark Thomas wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
what thickness of skin should be required of participants on our lists?
Thick enough to take to criticism, whether it be right or wrong, and
to respond in a positive manner.
Personal attacks of any form or degree are not acceptable behaviour
and
robert burrell donkin wrote:
...
i think perhaps that this is an issues of strategic aims verses
effective tactics. a good atmosphere on the user list is vital and IMO
jean is right to be concerned that those who could be contributing to
the community are being scared away by the troll.
This
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
I think ignoring is an excellent tactic for a developer's list. I worry
that isn't strong enough for a user's list, but I also wouldn't want to
embark on a path that could backfire.
Not exactly the same situation as yours but one of our users went off
on one a few
Mark Thomas wrote:
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
I think ignoring is an excellent tactic for a developer's list. I worry
that isn't strong enough for a user's list, but I also wouldn't want to
embark on a path that could backfire.
Not exactly the same situation as yours but one of our users went
El sáb, 17-12-2005 a las 09:14 -0800, Jean T. Anderson escribió:
Mark Thomas wrote:
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
I think ignoring is an excellent tactic for a developer's list. I worry
that isn't strong enough for a user's list, but I also wouldn't want to
embark on a path that could backfire.
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
derby-user@db.apache.org has been grappling with someone who delights in
belittling other posters on the list.
The topic was raised on women@ (see the thread starting with
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-women/200511.mbox/%3c4371355F.9
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Dec 16, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
derby-user@db.apache.org has been grappling with someone who
delights in belittling other posters on the list. The topic was
raised on women@ (see the thread starting with http://mail-
Jean,
The name at the core is Michael Segel.
Ah, then people can go to mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-user
and view sorted by author. Better still would be to know which ones are
being considered offensive.
I reviewed a dozen or so of his posts, and I saw a few snarky comments,
On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
For crying out loud, would you please supply links to the exact posts
you consider to be in poor taste and the person's name? I just
wasted
10 minutes trying to follow the bread crumbs. You have to make it
easier on reviewers -- everyone
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
The answer is to ask your community not to feed the troll when it
gets grumpy and just ignore him
When his presence is worse than his absence, you can deny him, but
it is better to ask everyone in the community to simply shun him.
Perhaps our netiquette FAQ should
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
For crying out loud, would you please supply links to the exact posts
you consider to be in poor taste and the person's name? I just wasted
10 minutes trying to follow the bread crumbs. You
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
Below are links to public responses to some of his posts (which are numerous
enough that they alone would be frustrating to wade through):
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-user/200508.mbox/[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
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