Re: I got charged ;)

2007-07-24 Thread Myk Melez
Myk Melez wrote: Gau, Frank wrote: Your credit card has now been charged by the following amount: ... My Order# 2309 My order number is #1987. My YES_I_DO request was sent by FIC on Friday, July 13 at 6:43pm PDT (Saturday, July 14 1:43am UTC). I received it at approximately 7:03pm (2:03am)

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-24 Thread Henryk Plötz
Moin, Am Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:20:44 +0100 schrieb Jim McDonald: Yep that's pretty much what I'm talking about here. But to do this we will need the low-level code to send us the methods/signals so that we can take the appropriate actions, which is the bit that I'm worried is not being

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread ramsesoriginal
On 7/24/07, wim delvaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 24 July 2007 02:08:32 Daniel Robinson wrote: I already use my browser to read my email. I use Gmail to handle the mail from my domain. I can read it at home, at the coffee house or at my day job. great for you but AFAIK almost

Re: Multi-touch, screen size, and case shape.

2007-07-24 Thread ramsesoriginal
On 7/24/07, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I agree with all your points. I suspect the Apple patents are on the interaction techniques, and possibly on some specific hardware. Obviously multi-touch existed a few years ago (FingerWorks was around, and I think the FTIR method was

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-24 Thread ramsesoriginal
It would be enough (easy saying) if someone would make some camera that fits into the whole in the body of the NEO.. the half-circle-one. With bluethooth interaction. Would be great.. just find someone who produces it? Maybe the FIC could start some sort of addon-series, small gadgets that fit in

RE:Multitouch

2007-07-24 Thread David Samblas Martinez
Refering to Multitouch, any one have take a look at MPX: The Multi-Pointer X Server (http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/) seems to bee what we are talking about.. and open-source. Any brave dev try to compile it on the little machine? Regards

Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread William Lai
Dear Community, We`re getting a lot of customer inquiries with regards to order / payment processing. If you already received a 'Your credit card has been charged' notification from RT than I guess this doesn`t concern you, your phones will be shipped promptly. Here are some notes for

Re: Multitouch

2007-07-24 Thread Florent THIERY
On 7/24/07, David Samblas Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Refering to Multitouch, any one have take a look at MPX: The Multi-Pointer X Server (http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/) seems to bee what we are talking about.. and open-source. Any brave dev try to compile it on the little machine?

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread Peter A Trotter
Thanks for the update. I'll keep playing in software for a little while longer ;) -Pete p.s. sorry about pm. brain not working... On 24/07/07, William Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Community, We`re getting a lot of customer inquiries with regards to order / payment processing. If you

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread Andy Powell
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 09:10, William Lai wrote: Dear Community, We`re getting a lot of customer inquiries with regards to order / payment processing. If you already received a 'Your credit card has been charged' notification from RT than I guess this doesn`t concern you, your phones will

Re Multitouch

2007-07-24 Thread David Samblas Martinez
:) It looks like I have read more before open my mouth. Thank Flo to discover me this interesting part of the wiki. Regarding the open question about Will the neo/openmoko graphics system be powerful enough for such uses? in the end of the wiki, there any conclusion yet? An regardin is multi

Re: [Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

2007-07-24 Thread Valerio Bruno
Sebastian Krause ha scritto: Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that google provides nntp, but you can ask gmane to create an nntp gateway. I'm trying gmane nntp interface to community list and it doesn't support thread! all messages are ordered just by date. You're using

Hear Me FIC

2007-07-24 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, With the increase in mailing list traffic, and hopefully with the opening of the forums (for customer support), the amount of traffic will likely increase. FIC and the core OpenMoko team are invariably going to get busy (not that they aren't now). So, I thought it will be best for the

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread William Lai
I hate to sound angry and impatient but what I'd like to know is why you aren't processing orders based on RT numbers. I kind of busted my ass to make sure I had one of the first orders in and I got order number 1843. We are processing orders based on RT numbers. Now, even though it

Re Multitouch

2007-07-24 Thread Giles Jones
David Samblas Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : An regardin is multi touch really that awesome? I think yes of course, but maybe not in a so little screen and surelly it is not worth the trouble of re-coding a lot of stuff to make it work. It has its uses, the important thing is to design

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread Justyn Butler
I had to make a change to my order after the ARE_YOU_SURE emails were sent out so I canceled it and made a new one. At that point the order process had a checkbox saying I have been warned! I didn't get an ARE_YOU_SURE email for the new order - I assume the checkbox was in place of this, and

[via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards

2007-07-24 Thread Florent THIERY
Interesting blog post when you consider the custom cases possibility: http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html via: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/23/1256213from=rss Also (blog comments squeezed out): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_keyboard

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Dear OpenMoko Orders Team, I originally did have Order #1883 and answered YES_I_DO for a black/ silver. Then I decided to change the delivery address and got the information that I should cancel the order and place a new one because your systems can't handle that directly. This gave me

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread William Lai
I didn't get an ARE_YOU_SURE email for the new order - I assume the checkbox was in place of this, and orders like mine will still be processed. Could I get some confirmation of this please? Yes, this is correct. ARE_YOU_SURE emails are for pre-checkbox orders. -Will On Jul 24, 2007, at

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-24 Thread Jim McDonald
Henryk Plötz wrote: Don't worry too much about that right now. I don't know what the current plan for this problem is but, given that OpenMoko already uses dbus, I'm quite sure that it will include dbus. Going from I have an application that, when a call comes in, pops up a dialog and asks the

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Oops - wasn't thought to be a public response. That is another reason why I would perfer a Web based forum because you can delete or modify messages there. Am 24.07.2007 um 12:00 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Dear OpenMoko Orders Team, I originally did have Order #1883 and answered

Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards

2007-07-24 Thread Giles Jones
Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Interesting blog post when you consider the custom cases possibility: http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html Always better sticking with the convention 0-9 abc def type keyboard. Anything unconventional will split

Re: Hooks in Base Code

2007-07-24 Thread Giles Jones
Jim McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : hat everyone can see where this is heading. I understand and agree that making/receiving calls is the most important thing right now for the core team but I and no doubt most of the rest of the people outside of the core team can't help much there, so

Re: Hear Me FIC

2007-07-24 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On 7/24/07, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hear_Me_FIC [... cut...] Appreciate your thoughts, I like it. Perhaps you should add a paragraph at the start that explains what the page is for, and if the priorities listed are the views / wishes of

Edited out of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/P1_Owners?

2007-07-24 Thread Cindy
While anxiously waiting for my your order has been shipped email, I checked the P1_Owners page and found that my name had been edited out. You may want to check that your name is still there. Cindy M ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Edited out of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/P1_Owners?

2007-07-24 Thread Marc Verwerft
Mine has disappeared also. Seems someone reorganized the wiki page so that it is now sorted on ordernumber. Courtesy of a wiki requires that if you modify a page so drastically to inform the user through his 'My Talk' page ... On 7/24/07, Cindy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While anxiously waiting

Re: I got charged ;)

2007-07-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Myk Melez wrote: Myk Melez wrote: Gau, Frank wrote: Your credit card has now been charged by the following amount: ... My Order# 2309 My order number is #1987. My YES_I_DO request was sent by FIC on Friday, July 13 at 6:43pm PDT (Saturday, July 14 1:43am UTC). I received it at

Re: MokoMakefile under Ubuntu Feisty

2007-07-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deepank Gupta wrote: Running Mokomakefile is slow, because bitbake is a bit slow right now and it build lots and lots of packages. Gcc internal error must have come when you were installing qemu. Try sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 More instructions on installing openMoko development environment

Re: Edited out of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/P1_Owners?

2007-07-24 Thread Henryk Plötz
Moin, Am Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:21:29 -0400 schrieb Cindy: While anxiously waiting for my your order has been shipped email, I checked the P1_Owners page and found that my name had been edited out. You may want to check that your name is still there. It appears that someone by the name of

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-24 Thread Henryk Plötz
Moin, Am Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:45:51 +0200 schrieb ramsesoriginal: Or, I mean, everybody could satart making the addon packs. why not? Because the hole actually fulfills a very specific role: the microphone is in there. They way I've heard it there are basically two ways to perform

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread kero
I hate to sound angry and impatient but what I'd like to know is why you aren't processing orders based on RT numbers. I kind of busted my ass to make sure I had one of the first orders in and I got order number 1843. We are processing orders based on RT numbers. With that

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-24 Thread AVee
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 01:21, Giles Jones wrote: On 24 Jul 2007, at 00:09, Nkoli wrote: Nokia are a brand, along with Samsung and Sony Ericsson they own the market. It's unrealistic to think this phone can get huge market share. Simply because you won't have the major operators selling them

PRESS: Hands-on with the OpenMoko Phone

2007-07-24 Thread Jason Elwell
http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/07/hands-on-with-t.html ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Marketing... aGPS uses

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Adam Krikstone wrote: AGPS is where focus needs to be. This natural (and free) comparative advantage needs to be developed to attract new developers and customers. Of these, I think only the following are not on wiki: 7. Neo ping - wifi/bt in conjunction with accelerometers able to find

Re: FM receiver and Traffic Message Channel?

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Sebastian Krause wrote: Hello! I'm wondering if there's an FM radio receiver built into the Neo1973 or any plan to include in the future. At least in the wiki pages I could barely find information about that. It's in the hardware wishlist. traffic information signalling - if it's the same as

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-24 Thread ramsesoriginal
On 7/24/07, AVee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 24 July 2007 01:21, Giles Jones wrote: On 24 Jul 2007, at 00:09, Nkoli wrote: Nokia are a brand, along with Samsung and Sony Ericsson they own the market. It's unrealistic to think this phone can get huge market share. Simply because you

Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Giles Jones wrote: Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Interesting blog post when you consider the custom cases possibility: http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html Always better sticking with the convention 0-9 abc def type keyboard. Anything

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-24 Thread Nicolas Bougues
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 14:47:21 AVee wrote: You really don't need anything from an operator to get on that list, when there is demand for a phone it will can be sold both with and without contracts. Overhere FIC needs to get these resellers on board, not the operators. In order to reach

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-24 Thread Marc Verwerft
On 7/24/07, AVee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 24 July 2007 01:21, Giles Jones wrote: On 24 Jul 2007, at 00:09, Nkoli wrote: Nokia are a brand, along with Samsung and Sony Ericsson they own the market. It's unrealistic to think this phone can get huge market share. Simply because you

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Mark Eichin wrote: Joshua Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree 100% with Coomac. Sure it would be nice if we had a Digital SLR with us at all times but that is completely impractical. Unless you are some sort of weirdo chances are you are not going to be carrying that large camera around

Re: Marketing... aGPS uses

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On 7/21/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! That's a wonderful list you made! I have one doubt though - how well would that AGPS chip work, especially in buildings. I have Garmin GPS which does not get signal reception if anything is between it

Re: building openmoko devel image [solved]

2007-07-24 Thread Charles Lohr
List, Please disregard this line of email conversation. I found that the problem was in fact with Java on the host platform, not OpenMoko. Simply unmerging all java, manually removing all remaining java files, and emerging Java again fixed the problem. Charles Lohr Since I don't really

Camera idea

2007-07-24 Thread Cailan Halliday
How about a camera similar to what dell has on their smaller XPS's now, with the rotating barrel. http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1210?c=uscs=19l=ens=dhs -Cailan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards

2007-07-24 Thread Giles Jones
Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I'd much sooner see OLED buttons where the text can change to suit the task. Those are quite expensive per. True, we're not talking about this model or the next. I would sooner see a limited number of adaptable keys than 5 fairly fixed ones. --- G

Fwd: Camera idea

2007-07-24 Thread Hans L
-- Forwarded message -- From: Hans L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 24, 2007 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Camera idea To: Cailan Halliday [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't seen the XPS camera up close, so I can't comment on it. But something that is closer to our application would be the LG

camera? yes please! ..

2007-07-24 Thread Jay Vaughan
.. count me in for a definite yes-vote for the camera, i believe it is an excellent user interface .. and, does anyone know when the openmoko devkits are going to be shipped? we're waiting for ours here in vienna, and i wanna be able to plan my play time! ; jay

Re: Re Multitouch

2007-07-24 Thread Ortwin Regel
And how do you scroll? On 7/24/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Samblas Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : An regardin is multi touch really that awesome? I think yes of course, but maybe not in a so little screen and surelly it is not worth the trouble of re-coding a lot

Re: Camera on GTA02

2007-07-24 Thread Giles Jones
Marc Verwerft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Same in Belgium. We have the 3 big operators (Proximus, Base, Mobistar) who have their own network. Besides that we have approx. 30 virtual operators (who rent from the 3 above). None of them will refuse a phone to hook up to their network. Guess this

Re: Re Multitouch

2007-07-24 Thread Giles Jones
Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : And how do you scroll? Touch and hold then move to zoom. A shorter press and move to scroll (a sort of flick, like Apple use to move through contacts). It's all possible and usable, multitouch isn't going to be much fun on a small screen. For a larger

Re: Re Multitouch

2007-07-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 17:11, Ortwin Regel wrote: And how do you scroll? Could use a drag along the edge of the screen like the synaptics touchpad driver does. Seems like this might be specific to a photo viewer though. It would be better to have a consistent set of zooming and scrolling

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Hans L
On 7/24/07, Ted Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Worrying about your email address being exposed is pretty silly. That's like worrying that the ice on a pond will break when it melts in the spring and your house will fall in. Don't build your house on ice. Exactly, build it on solid ground (a

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Daniel Robinson
The fact that you are subscribed to 20 different mailing lists and you would find it difficult to read all of that information on 20 different forum UIs is your issue, and it is not the responsibility of this community to address. To state, axiomatically, that mailing lists are more efficient

Re: An idea for an advertisement

2007-07-24 Thread Ian Stirling
Giles Jones wrote: Clare Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Nokia 6110 Navigator - advertised on the back of the bus I followed on my way home, and this is way away in Perth Western Australia.. clare Thing is, we have better hardware than Nokia in terms of GPS. They use an AGPS

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Jay Vaughan
On Jul 24, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Daniel Robinson wrote: The goal is communication, not rightness. How is communication best served? duh, use both mailing lists and forums. any new forum post - new post to the list. and vice versa. my vote, if we can't get that working, is to do both,

Re: An idea for an advertisement

2007-07-24 Thread Giles Jones
On 24 Jul 2007, at 19:01, Ian Stirling wrote: Tomtom - the hardware units - run on comparable hardware to the Neo. Arm under linux. It's not completely impossible that it could be convinced in software to run a copy of the hardwares software. They're only obliged to provide the GPL code

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Mark
On 7/24/07, Daniel Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact that you are subscribed to 20 different mailing lists and you would find it difficult to read all of that information on 20 different forum UIs is your issue, and it is not the responsibility of this community to address. To state,

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, the point is that mail clients are tuned for text communication. Webbrowsers are tuned to present a page or application downloaded from a server. Andreas Daniel Robinson wrote: The fact that you are subscribed to 20 different mailing lists

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans L wrote: I'm guessing that's not what you really meant, but I'm still not sure your point is. Are you saying that if you don't want your email address harvested by spammers, then you should not participate in discussions about openmoko at

Re: app idea

2007-07-24 Thread Steven Milburn
Cingular/ATT doesn't seem to have any problem with letting users make their own ring tones. On my Samsung SGH-A707, I can select any MP3 file under 1MB as a ring tone. I have a couple on my phone that I edited with GarageBand to select a small enough clip and then downloaded to my phone.

RE: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Jacques Poulin
Is there a web form to search the mailing lists ? I didn't find it, and didn't want to ask if that had been asked before, but since I can't find the search form, well, I'm asking :-) I prefer forums over lists because forums are a lot less distracting... but at least when the lists are

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Ben Burdette
Jay Vaughan wrote: On Jul 24, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Daniel Robinson wrote: The goal is communication, not rightness. How is communication best served? duh, use both mailing lists and forums. any new forum post - new post to the list. and vice versa. That was my thought too. Anyone

List Config

2007-07-24 Thread Donald Organ
Can someone fix the lists so that replies go to the list not the sender? I seem to be getting at least two of every email that is going out to the lists. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 www.google.com? (Hint: add a site:openmoko.com or so to your query) Andreas Jacques Poulin wrote: Is there a web form to search the mailing lists ? I didn't find it, and didn't want to ask if that had been asked before, but since I can't find

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Kyle Bassett
Ok, I set up a temporary forum until the guys @ openmoko get everything sorted out. I'm using phpbb. I think the forums are needed, for many of the reasons described in this thread. Primarily, to have another sounding board for new openmoko/neo users to just communicate, and keep this list

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, mailman (which openmoko uses) has integrated support for Usenet gatewaying. That would add one further option for people that want to keep up with the communication at their own pace. Plus there seem to a number of web - nntp tools where one

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Ted Lemon wrote: Quite frankly I am completely, totally, overwhelmingly baffled at the resistance to the forums. Quite a few people have expressed their dislikes of mailing lists and how they were *very* reluctant (like myself) to join. Worrying about your email address being exposed

email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)

2007-07-24 Thread kent
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:45:32AM -0700, Daniel Robinson wrote: The fact that you are subscribed to 20 different mailing lists and you would find it difficult to read all of that information on 20 different forum's is your issue, and it is not the responsibility of this community to address.

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Andreas Kostyrka wrote: To put it differently, there is at least one Linux based gadget that I use, that I'd probably put some time into it (it's my sat receiver ;) ), where I don't participate, because the community organizes around a forum. Well, end effect the community is very static and

Re: community Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15

2007-07-24 Thread Gilles Casse
Le mardi 24 juillet 2007, Deepank Gupta a écrit : Running Mokomakefile is slow, because bitbake is a bit slow right now and it build lots and lots of packages. Hi Deepank, The slowliness arrives during building busybox : it was no more possible to use the PC or to ssh in it until the gcc

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread kent
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 02:07:03PM -0500, Jonathon Suggs wrote: [...] The bottom line is that mailing lists are not an acceptable means of communicating with technical novices. AGAIN, we are not talking about discontinuing the development list (that is/should be used by *developers*). We

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Jonathon Suggs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not arrogance or snobbery -- different view of reality. At this point, openmoko *is* a development project. It's emphatically not for Joe and Jane -- it says so on the web site, where you order your phone. There are disclaimers all over the place. It's not even for

Re: email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)

2007-07-24 Thread Jeff Rush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, then, why not have forums for people who want them, and leave email for people who don't want them? The thing is, it doesn't work very well in practice. If experience is any guide, then the technically knowledgable people will use email, and won't waste

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Daniel Robinson
The general tone on this item of discussion is This is what I want/need, therefore, that is the best solution (for everybody). What I have not seen is any concession to gather information. What I have seen is a lot of data-free analysis. What I would like to see is some examination of the

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, you started to get personal. Now, a newbie forum is fine, do as you like. Although one might argue that you are splitting the community in two. The problem is that you need a communication tool that is appropriate for newbies. And it must be

Re: List Config

2007-07-24 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your description could be about two things: 1.) gmail.com is acting up with the openmoko mailing lists, and has been for some time now. gmail mails end up being sent multiple times. That's something that google needs to fix, not much openmoko can do

Duplicate message troubleshooting

2007-07-24 Thread Marco Barreno
Messages to the list are being duplicated again. Some of the messages are from Gmail, but not all (e.g. some are from kostyrka.org and cnlohr.com). I can try to help debug the problem from the Gmail end if an admin on the list machine can send me verbose SMTP logs; please see below for details.

Unofficial Forum Details...

2007-07-24 Thread Kyle Bassett
Hello Everyone, I have set up the Official Unofficial OpenMoko forum on one of my websites. I will continue to modify the forums as need be. All who would like to utilize the forums are welcome! Temporary Link, awaiting DNS resolution: http://www.makeopensource.com/phpBB3/ Official Link:

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathon Suggs wrote: Well, I've said it before and I will say it again. We are not wanting to kill the mailing lists!!! We are wanting to supplement the mailing list with a forum. I cannot see ANY reason why this would be a bad thing. Well,

Re: Duplicate message troubleshooting

2007-07-24 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, putting on my Postmaster hat, could you please provide Message Ids and headers for messages from heaven.kostyrka.org that were sent duplicate? Please use private mail. Andreas Marco Barreno wrote: Messages to the list are being duplicated

RE: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Richard Reichenbacher
According to the wiki there's about 2300 phone orders and the number increases every day. There's some 75-100 people that have posted on the wiki in the P1 owners category. Given, not every developer has contributed to the P1 owners page so there's probably about 300 people or so that follow the

Re: Unofficial Forum Details...

2007-07-24 Thread Steven Milburn
Kyle, This is probably a crazy idea that if I think long enough about I'd realize won't work. But, instead, I'll just put it out there :) It seems easy enough for the forum and list to connect in one direction, on a user-by-user basis. I assume your forum will have the ability to email

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Daniel Robinson
Sorry, man, the ante is four cents. :) So much for a tidy email list of just serious, seasoned, developers. Heh. That sound you hear is one lip gloating On 7/24/07, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the wiki there's about 2300 phone orders and the number

Re: Order related inquiries

2007-07-24 Thread William Lai
On Jul 24, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Andy Powell wrote: On Tuesday 24 July 2007 09:10, William Lai wrote: Dear Community, We`re getting a lot of customer inquiries with regards to order / payment processing. If you already received a 'Your credit card has been charged' notification from RT than I

GUI idea

2007-07-24 Thread Gerald A
I have an idea I'd like to mock up with someone who has some GUI coding know how. I could do a quick demo in flash, but I'm thinking it would probably be as quick to mock up for the actual Neo by someone who knows their way around. I figure less then an hours work, all told. It's something kind

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Gerald A
On 7/24/07, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they were interested in developing, they would follow the wiki as it is the only source for finding development specs, cvs links, walkthroughs, etc. Flaw in your logic: One has to post to the wiki to follow it. I'm very sure you

Re: app idea

2007-07-24 Thread Jeff Andros
yeah, but they seem to be in the minority (my cingular SE phone works properly too) I'm thinking of going a step beyond this: not requiring you to whip out your computer at all. My Sony Ericsson has a program called Music DJ that I think I've played with all of twice, but it will let you mix

Re: app idea

2007-07-24 Thread Steven Milburn
Just checked, and my SCH-A707 lets you record something with the microphone and set it as a ring tone. So, at least Samsung thinks the idea has merit! As far as the sharing site thing, I don't think I see why this would be tied to any particular phone hardware or OpenMoko. You could set up a

Re: app idea

2007-07-24 Thread Donald Organ
I would love to get involved in this project, only problem is I haven't used C since college. I know PHP, .NET, ColdFusion, and some other languages so it should be too hard for me to pick it up. Let me know if your interested in getting this going. Is it possible to develop for the phone

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Ben Burdette
A gateway would not work. Forums and mailing lists are two quite different means of communication. In a forum you can edit things, move them, delete them. Also, discussing in a flat view doesn't only look different, it works differently. Also, if you connect both, you get all the trash

Re: Duplicate message troubleshooting

2007-07-24 Thread Marco Barreno
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:42:01PM +0200, thus spake Andreas Kostyrka: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, putting on my Postmaster hat, could you please provide Message Ids and headers for messages from heaven.kostyrka.org that were sent duplicate? Please use private mail.

Re: Unofficial Forum Details...

2007-07-24 Thread Kyle Bassett
Hello Again, The forum is now in a usable condition. Please register and start posting! If there are any concerns with the layout, please contact me and I will try to accommodate... -Kyle On 7/24/07, Kyle Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, I have set up the Official

Re: Unofficial Forum Details...

2007-07-24 Thread Brad Pitcher
How would you feel about installing OpenID support? http://openid.phpbb.cc/ Kyle Bassett wrote: Hello Again, The forum is now in a usable condition. Please register and start posting! If there are any concerns with the layout, please contact me and I will try to accommodate... -Kyle

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Ted Lemon
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 19:19 +0200, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: No, it's just habits. And it's not about Engineers, it's about long time email users. What, that they never actually read what anyone writes, but just skim it looking for something that they can flame about? Come on guys, read for

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

2007-07-24 Thread Ted Lemon
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 12:33 -0500, Hans L wrote: Are you saying that if you don't want your email address harvested by spammers, then you should not participate in discussions about openmoko at all? Keeping your email address private IS a valid reason for the use of forums. No, I'm saying

Re: app idea

2007-07-24 Thread Daniel Robinson
The SE phones allowed creation of ring tones on the phone or with a PC application. Cingular allowed downloading to the phone via BlueTooth. My current carrier, t-mobile, doesn't allow things to be downloaded to the phone. Creating ringtones should be pretty easy. I'm at work right now, so I

Re: Unofficial Forum Details...

2007-07-24 Thread Kyle Bassett
I have no problem with it, once they support phpBB 3.x -Kyle On 7/24/07, Brad Pitcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would you feel about installing OpenID support? http://openid.phpbb.cc/ Kyle Bassett wrote: Hello Again, The forum is now in a usable condition. Please register and start

Re: I got charged ;)

2007-07-24 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Myk Melez writes: Update: I just received a payment received message. It says they'll send out my order ASAP and will notify me again when it's been sent. Sounds like it'll go out too late for me to receive it before heading off for OSCON tomorrow afternoon, unfortunately. That would be my

Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards

2007-07-24 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Giles Jones writes: Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Interesting blog post when you consider the custom cases possibility: http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html Always better sticking with the convention 0-9 abc def type keyboard. Anything

Re:PRESS: Hands-on with the OpenMoko Phone

2007-07-24 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Jason Elwell writes: http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/07/hands-on-with-t.html Thanks for posting that -- certainly whetted my appetite. It's also interesting that the author of the article didn't quite understand which decisions have been made, and which are pending: he didn't seem to

Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards

2007-07-24 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Giles Jones writes: Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I'd much sooner see OLED buttons where the text can change to suit the task. Those are quite expensive per. True, we're not talking about this model or the next. I would sooner see a limited number of adaptable keys than 5 fairly

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