Hi,
I'm new here, I have an OpenMoko on order and hope to do some
development. I'll contribute ideas and bug reports at the least.
I'm not sure I've ever used a touch screen mobile device that
caters for left handed people. On the whole there aren't many issues
with using devices left ha
On 14 Jul 2007, at 13:29, Edwin Lock wrote:
But you shouldn't forget the people who aren't so technical and still
want to have a phone that can do a lot, there are loads running around
with win mobile phones.
They won't be attracted by the ads showing how they can be freed,
cause they won't car
On 14 Jul 2007, at 17:57, Edwin Lock wrote:
I am left-handed too. And I noticed on my nokia 770 a lot of
interaction is needed on the right side, not only the scrollbar but
also the exit button etc. Maybe there would be a way to just turn the
window around, left side to the right, and vice vers
On 15 Jul 2007, at 17:29, Dylan McCall wrote:
Just about the only application for multitouch for a phone like
this is the keyboard, and even that seems a bit odd to me since
people don't usually press two keys at once.
Am I missing something, like a tendency to have one's fingers on a
key
On 15 Jul 2007, at 13:48, Alexander Gabriel wrote:
Indeed.
I am colorblind and I would really appreaciate it if the UI wouldn't
rely on red vs. green to distinguish things like online/offline users
and such. And there are loads of colorblind people out there. One look
into Wikipedia might hel
On 15 Jul 2007, at 20:07, Ian Stirling wrote:
It will do the disabled far more good IMO if it's a widely spread
platform that can be easily altered to their needs, rather than a
platform that is slower to take off, because things do not work the
way the average user expects.
Much of th
Jonathon Suggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> For the address book example. I would prefer to have a list that showed
> only a few names with a large area for each. When you clicked the name,
> it would pop-up (again large buttons) the actions that you could take
> (Dial, SMS, Email, Edit/Oth
Mickael Faivre-Macon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Hi,
>
> Do you know the European GPS called Galileo available in 2008 ?
> I do not know this technology (GPS) and I wonder if the two are
> compatible and if having a AGPS chip ("Hammerhead") enable the Neo to
> receive Galileo information. It's
On 16 Jul 2007, at 19:49, Ryan Prior wrote:
I like the tagline "Your phone, your way." The idea is that we are
putting the consumer in control - this line may mean different
things to a techie and non-techie, but that's okay - it ties in
with the spirit of freedom.
Maybe, but then I th
On 16 Jul 2007, at 20:16, Ryan Prior wrote:
That is absolutely true! No amount of marketing to non-techies will
help until we have a solid software stack which includes UI
responsiveness and a tested user interface. The idea is not to
start a ad campaign immediately -- the idea is to be re
On 16 Jul 2007, at 22:13, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
On 7/16/07, Eric Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Unleash your phone.
Neo 1973 : phone - and more
OpenMoko : not just a phone
Neo 1973 - The phone you truly own.
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OpenMoko community mailing
On 16 Jul 2007, at 23:00, Daniel Robinson wrote:
I ordered a neo1973 and got an email back, but my bank account has
not been hit for the money and I haven't heard anything else.
Anyone on this list gotten a neo1973 yet?
Today's apparently the day when they arrive from China. So they won't
On 17 Jul 2007, at 00:06, Clare Johnstone wrote:
Hi Jonathon, How would you manage when there are a lot of names? My
phone is also
my phone book, and has pages of names in small print. This is why I
choose a phone with
a good screen and a stylus.
I can't answer for jonathon, but there are man
Marco Barreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Another idea is to be able to switch modes. In "finger mode" there
> are 3-4 contacts shown at a time with a nice icon, or whatever fits
> will and is finger-sized for pressing. In "stylus-mode" there are
> 10-15 contacts shown in small text, for easy
Benjamin Schieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Myself, I'm frustrated with the hardware keys on 'modern' phones. They
> are small, hard to press, offer little to no feedback and bounce back
> and forth.
> An improved on-screen keyboard or even libgstroke bindings would be
> way better for input.
Digger Vermont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Just oPhone
>
> I've always dislike the I and My stuff.
Not even sure it should be branded as just a phone.
Always preferred the communicator label myself :)
---
G O Jones
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Moblin, a mobile Linux project started by Intel.
While it's tied to their hardware it still may have useful code at some point.
News story:
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9302797289.html
Link:
http://www.moblin.org
---
G O Jones
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OpenMo
Attila Csipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> FWICS it's a x86 only project for now, it's much closer from all aspects to a
>
> desktop than to a smartphone.
It did look more like a UMPC project. But still, the interface is touch screen
and with fingers.
---
G O Jones
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On 17 Jul 2007, at 17:58, David Duardo wrote:
I was actually thinking of a linearized rotary dial. You basically
have
a scrollbar on one the side of the screen. All you would do is drag
the
slider down until you see the character you want and then let go. The
slider will then spring back to
On 17 Jul 2007, at 18:55, Ted Lemon wrote:
Has anyone seen this?
http://www.freeopenmoko.com/
Weird, huh?
Makes you wonder if any marketing is needed, so far that's one on
ebay, a website on getting one free.
Some people will try anything.
_
On 17 Jul 2007, at 18:58, Daniel Robinson wrote:
What are the projects of interest for people?
I am interested in working on kid's phones. I have wanted a kid's
phone that was not as brain-dead as the phones that are currently
targeted at children. I like that the Neo1973 has a secure te
On 17 Jul 2007, at 23:30, Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote:
I like this last one.
We should populate the wiki wishlist with all these ideas, no ?
They should not be buried in a mailing list.
Mickael
There's a website which will convert a file with an NMEA log file
into a Google Earth route. Very
Lars Hallberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> My favourite for main UI is a text input tool at the bottom, where you
> input a progressive search term, say "we br"... That might match:
>
> web browser (app)
> tux web broadcast (web bookmark, document)
> Werner Brown (contact)
> Wera Brooks (conta
Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Katapult on KDE is kinda similar (I think it's actually intended to be a
> Quicksilver copy cat). It's included with Kubuntu, at least.
Certainly sounds like an idea worth implementing on a mobile device. When you
have your data with you on the move
Ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Another cool use would be (TV|Radio|Computer|xyz) remote control,
I use MythTV and it has support for a remote control over TCP/IP (I control it
with my Mac).
There's a project listed on the projects site to create a MythTV remote for
this phone.
>The terminal must be functional. I'll have a look at the code >and whether I
>can add something like this to play with.
Assignable buttons at the top of the terminal would be handy, allow the user to
assign the most common commands.
---
G O Jones
On 18 Jul 2007, at 17:34, Tom Russell wrote:
I want to be able to script (in Python?) a simple app that, when I
sit down at my desk @ work, turns the ringer to vibrate and sends
any incoming call notifications to my Linux desktop for visual
display or ringtones through my PC headphones.
Hi,
Is there any documentation about a standard filesystem layout?
For user data storage like music, videos etc.
On Mac OS X there are pre-define folders for Movies, Music, Pictures
and Applications. It would save a lot of time searching with file
dialogs if a standard was proposed for appl
On 18 Jul 2007, at 20:00, Jason Elwell wrote:
Awesome news!!! FIC processed my credit card!
See screenshot:
http://www.chooseopen.com/PaymentReceived.png
Regards,
Jason
Good for you :)
Another 795 orders to get through until they get to mine :(
_
On 18 Jul 2007, at 20:38, Sander van Grieken wrote:
Worrying news, if this rumour is confirmed, although it might be
positive PR
for open phones..
http://vsiphone.blogspot.com/2007/07/iphone-has-built-in-spyware-
module.html
It might just be a backup function. When you sign up for .Mac wh
On 18 Jul 2007, at 20:43, Al Johnson wrote:
If it won't play arbitrary audio files as a ringtone out of the box
it won't
be long before someone updates it.
I'm sure it will do WAVs, MP3s and other files when finished.
I'd like to see support for RTTL and other text based tones. as well.
H
On 18 Jul 2007, at 21:11, Kero van Gelder wrote:
gtones can't be an application. So long
as the app starts and ends fast.
"application" ?
some playing daemon that listens on dbus?
No, I mean any music or sound generating application that can be
invoked and stopped using the command line.
On 18 Jul 2007, at 21:48, Jeff Andros wrote:
it might be worth while to have no other notification except a
script fired off when the call comes in (think SVN hooks) It would
allow you to customize logging(fork off a call log script), and
make it really easy for other applications to prov
On 18 Jul 2007, at 22:40, Casey Harkins wrote:
Mathew Prokos wrote:
Anti theft software would be an interesting project, possibly
detecting if the sim card was changed, and sending its current
location to either a known cell phone via txt msg or to an
internet server.. Sort of the same id
On 18 Jul 2007, at 23:03, Jim McDonald wrote:
If the monolithic approach is out then some sort of modular
approach is required. The most obvious example out there today is
Firefox, which comes in a relatively simple base configuration but
provides any number of hooks to allow people
On 18 Jul 2007, at 23:21, Jim McDonald wrote:
To clarify, I'm thinking not of getting in the way of the basics of
things like gsmd, which should handle the fact that there is an
incoming call and also pick up the caller ID if present, but what
openmoko does as a result of this information
On 18 Jul 2007, at 23:39, Jeff Andros wrote:
Maybe go one step further... set it up as an observer pattern
inside the os. you could build a simple GUI that wraps around it,
but also other programs could register to be notified on a phone
action (damn, I really need to go over the code.
On 18 Jul 2007, at 23:57, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Note that dbus is already a part of openmoko.
Ah, always thought DBUS was some sort of HAL. But on close inspection
it's a bit like DCOP which is very powerful.
All that's needed is a nice interface to configure the actions then.
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Jim McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Yep that's roughly what I'm talking about but we need the base code to
> be set up such that it will make those calls and pay attention to the
> results, which is the main thrust of my argument.
All the code should need to do is talk to notification pr
Marc-Olivier Barre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Well, there's FHS (file system hierarchy standard). But it more about
> the system than the user's music... I don't see the interest of a "My
> Picture" or a "My Music" folder. In fact, I tend to hate that way of
> doing things.
>
> And I think a l
Ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
Just store everything as a
> graph, and Then use one of the many Graph-algorithms out there. I think
> a simple topological sort would be enough for the beginning, then we
> could search something that fits better for us.
I believe most GPS systems use p
Mario Wewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> So - does anyone of you already has a running VMWARE image with all
> openmoko-relevant applications running?!
Not VMWARE, I have a working Ubuntu 6.06 build environment running on Parallels
Desktop.
Finally finished building a rom image last night and
Sven Neuhaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> This smartphone has what a future OpenMoko device should aim for, hardware
> wise (keeping the hires screen of course):
>
> http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=256569
I'd prefer to be better than HTCs very bland and "almost all the same" approach
Jim McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Well yes, that's really what I'm talking about. But there are also
> other things that some people may want to do with an incoming 'phone
> call that we won't think about. Perhaps send an SMS to another 'phone
> to say that a call was received? Jus
Benjamin Flanagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> The limited number of neo's have got me worried that I might not be in
> the first batch. Have anyone been charged for the device yet? I'm ready
> to learn the ways of Openmoko Ninjitsu.
>
One person has confirmed on the list that their order has b
On 19 Jul 2007, at 19:47, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
I can certainly be patient (I didn't strangle either of my
children...), but it would be good to know my place in the queue --
some hint of how many phones have been ordered, how long the waiting
list might be...
I drew out an approximation of
Jim McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> which is the bit that I'm worried is
> not being considered and so this type of functionality will just not be
> possible without being a 'core' developer.
>
I don't think the project will last long if there's too much snobbery about who
does what.
Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Thet will be very good beta testers. And about that linux, always
> should be the first time. But linux has its own magnetism. Jeff, I
> think that some of them will install linux distro on their PC and a new
> linux adventure will
co
On 20 Jul 2007, at 19:48, Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:
I am not even sure they need to know about "Open" if only they are
aware
of the "Moko".
Look at this other buzz word: "Linux", M&Mme Dupond do not really
understand what it relates to. (Unix, free, freedom, even Mac
sometimes...;-)
If the p
On 20 Jul 2007, at 20:29, Jeff Andros wrote:
On 7/20/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If the phone is in a shop then people will buy on looks and any POS
literature.
I just think back to when the razr went on sale... people went to
stores JUST to buy one... somehow w
On 20 Jul 2007, at 22:25, Ortwin Regel wrote:
Order #1833 here and not a developer at all. My last Linux
experience was that I changed the screen resolution in Suse 9 to
something that didn't work and wasn't able to change it back and
get back to the GUI. :P Still, I need this phone and I
On 21 Jul 2007, at 16:06, Stefano Sanna wrote:
Originally it was 77USD. I'm in Italy.
Lucky man! ;-) My order # is 18xx and I'm still waiting for being
charged.. :-(
I would imagine they are going through the "YES_I_DO" emails in the
order they were received back.
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On 22 Jul 2007, at 00:31, Valerio Bruno wrote
By the way, in the long run we'll need a real, user-friendly forum
to address
non-tech-friendly user.
The number of these users can me minimised by having a very good manual.
I know that people don't read manuals often but that's because
tr
On 22 Jul 2007, at 01:13, Mickael Faivre-Macon wrote:
By the way, does FIC plan to make money out of the neo ?
Like selling manuals ? Or whatever ?
They'll make money on the hardware. Developing a good smartphone OS
costs quite a bit of money.
__
On 22 Jul 2007, at 09:47, Kyle Bassett wrote:
I agree with Valerio's (humble) opinion. Having a static manual
would have problems due to the dynamic situation of the software.
(The reason wiki's were born!) We need to have an official forum,
as questions will be asked and it will streng
On 22 Jul 2007, at 15:51, Lars Hallberg wrote:
Network don't work (qemu -net user)... Is this a limitation in the
moko image, the neo qemu or my hostsystem (ubuntu 7.04)? Is it
somehow solvable?
Anyone successfully got network on there qemu moko systems, an in
that case how?
I've c
On 22 Jul 2007, at 19:16, Jeff Rush wrote:
- Giles, I didn't have to modify any .h files to make it work, nor
did I
see any problems with the 8ma power you saw.
Like I said, it probaly depends on your kernel version which is why
I'd like to know which is the best version for QEMU?
On 22 Jul 2007, at 20:31, Adam Krikstone wrote:
Open means something to developers but it is meaningless to
customers. You have to show customers what that means; flash demo/
QEMU of package management system and included applications. If
you just say the phone is open and can do X, Y, Z
Clare Johnstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Nokia 6110 Navigator - advertised on the back of the bus I followed on
> my way home,
> and this is way away in Perth Western Australia..
>
> clare
Thing is, we have better hardware than Nokia in terms of GPS. They use an AGPS
solution which is
Torfinn Ingolfsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Isn't SyncML[1] aka OMA[2] standard on Windows?
> Standard as in "there exists a SyncML application for windows thgat
> allows you to sync with Outlook ..."?
> and if SyncML / OMA is standard, can't we just use that?
>
> 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/w
Coomac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Hey guys,Can anyone confirm whether GTA02 will have a camera or
> no? The question has been asked a few times on the mailing list and
> I've seen speculations, but no real answers. Seeing as the Samsung 2442
> SoC can support a camera interface, is it safe to
Coomac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Was really hoping
> for a 3 MP to replace my current phone or at least a 2 MP with video to
> better trounce the iPhone. I still have high hopes for the phone,
It's not the megapixels that matter, it's the quality of the lens and the
quality of the CCD/CMOS.
On 23 Jul 2007, at 17:04, Gordon Syme wrote:
Me too, while I'd like a camera to be there I wouldn't want it to
detract from
more important dev work.
Well, the driver and software can be made. This project isn't about
just one hardware unit.
I'm sure a USB webcam could be hacked to work
On 23 Jul 2007, at 18:18, coomac wrote:
Is the Neo aiming to be the next crackberry, made specifically for
business users and a few stragglers from the general population? If
so, there's no point in the discussion. However, many people have
pointed out that a phone needs a keyboard to be
On 23 Jul 2007, at 20:16, andy selby wrote
The gpio pins?
https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA01Bv3/gpio.txt
although I'm not sure which ones and it'll be a different pinout for
the upgraded processor in GTA02.
I'm not sure wether you could connect a USB camera with a hacked USB
cable
On 23 Jul 2007, at 20:37, coomac wrote:
No need for snarky comments. Like it or not, non technical people
make up the majority of consumers. These are people who are scared
to death of doing a mod on their brand spanking new gadget and
would instead purchase the gadget with that functio
On 23 Jul 2007, at 22:46, Donald Organ wrote:
I am rolling around the idea of purchasing the developer unit, but I
have a couple of questions:
When the GTA02 unit becomes available will there be and
upgrade
price
to upgrade to the new board?
No upgrade discount, they decided again
On 24 Jul 2007, at 00:09, Nkoli wrote:
You're right about business smart phones, but you're not taking
nokia's symbian phones and their huge userbase into account. One
glance at gsmarena (or any phone website) comments section will
give you an idea of how large the non business users are
On 24 Jul 2007, at 01:21, Nkoli wrote:
If done right, it just might grab a good chunk of the market
without needing telcos. If anything, Apple has shown that people
are willing to drop $500 - $600 on a phone they can fall in love
with. In the US at least. It may not be so with the rest of
David Samblas Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> An regardin "is multi touch really that awesome? " I
> think yes of course, but maybe not in a so little
> screen and surelly it is not worth the trouble of
> re-coding a lot of stuff to make it work.
It has its uses, the important thing is to
Florent THIERY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Interesting blog post when you consider the custom cases possibility:
>
> http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html
Always better sticking with the convention 0-9 abc def type keyboard. Anything
unconventional will split
Jim McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
hat everyone can see where this is heading.
>
> I understand and agree that making/receiving calls is the most important
> thing right now for the core team but I and no doubt most of the rest of
> the people outside of the core team can't help much there
Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> > I'd much sooner see OLED buttons where the text can change to suit the
> task.
>
> Those are quite expensive per.
True, we're not talking about this model or the next.
I would sooner see a limited number of adaptable keys than 5 fairly fixed ones.
Marc Verwerft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Same in Belgium. We have the 3 big operators (Proximus, Base,
> Mobistar) who have their own network. Besides that we have approx. 30
> virtual operators (who rent from the 3 above).
> None of them will refuse a phone to hook up to their network.
> Guess
Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> And how do you scroll?
Touch and hold then move to zoom. A shorter press and move to scroll (a sort of
flick, like Apple use to move through contacts).
It's all possible and usable, multitouch isn't going to be much fun on a small
screen. For a larger
On 24 Jul 2007, at 19:01, Ian Stirling wrote:
Tomtom - the hardware units - run on comparable hardware to the Neo.
Arm under linux.
It's not completely impossible that it could be convinced in
software to run a copy of the hardwares software.
They're only obliged to provide the GPL code t
Jason Elwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> FIC just made my day!
> Your order has been shipped!
You meanie :P I misread it and thought mine has shipped then :(
I'm still having problems getting the USB networking going. I think I won't be
able to do much until my phone arrives.
In the mea
On 25 Jul 2007, at 23:42, John Seghers wrote:
Did you run "modprobe gadgetfs default_uid=" before
running QEMU?
I get continual kernel ring messages (dmesg, also reported in
syslog) of:
dummy_udc dummy_udc: dequeued req deb73c40 from ep-c, len 4096, buf
Additionally, there are
Tim Niemeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> > >
> No i haven't such a message.
> But when i type usb_add gadget:1, the qemu says in the QEMU monitor:
> (qemu) Could not remove USB device '0.5'
> Why? Seems to me like he gets some errors and want trys an automatic
> usb_remove...
I get thi
Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> it's open-source (BSD license), so all the code is available to build
> on whatever environment/architecture you want (as far as my limited
> understanding of portable code/interpretation of the gears wiki goes,
> anyway)
>
> http://code.google.com/p/go
On 26 Jul 2007, at 19:21, David Gathright wrote:
So, will OpenMoko let you disable the data link?
Anything and everything is possible.
Hopefully it would be a possibility via the interface. Otherwise the
shell is your friend.
___
OpenMoko c
On 26 Jul 2007, at 22:15, Tim Newsom wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:32, Giles Jones wrote:
Anything and everything is possible.
Obviously, you mean this withing the realm of programming
openmoko. Otherwise, its a very broad and bold statement. /grin
--Tim
Well it's a fairly
Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> But why are we even bothering to have this discussion? Web forums aren't
> stupid. They are a popular tool for discussion on the internet. If you are
> too stupid to use them, that's not my problem.
Maybe there's confusion? the forums were only propos
On 25 Jul 2007, at 23:09, John Seghers wrote:
ficial forum would obviously make sure to fit
well into that resolution.
I'm sure it will fit well...but will you actually be able to read
it without
a magnifying glass?
Having owned a VGA PDA with similar screen size I can say that the
reso
On 25 Jul 2007, at 20:21, Jay Vaughan wrote:
For sure the efforts of the Zaurus crowd, the GP2X crowd, the OLPC
crowd, the Nokia 770 crowd, and the iPod Linux crowd can be
exploited with OpenMoko .. so much diversity is inevitable, and
good imho ..
True, but why buy a device designed
On 25 Jul 2007, at 19:56, Jeff Andros wrote:
WARNING: replies to multiple messages
Richard said:
If they were interested in developing, they would follow the wiki
as it is the only source for finding development specs, cvs links,
walkthroughs, etc.
Some of us are waiting for hardware...
Hi,
I was thinking, there's a few people who are spending time hacking
away at HTC devices to get Linux running on them. While it is
commendable they would be better to help us with OpenMoko.
Maybe we could appeal to them if we're not already on their radar.
Thoughts?
Giles.
Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> I don't think Ubuntu did very badly with (Y)Y.MM release naming. Except for
> the Dapper slippage maybe, but that was warranted by any means... Plus you
> can use future dates for unstable (right now the next Ubuntu release is
> 7.10
I guess one t
Sudharshan S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> ..and Have anyone who had ordered their devices late (..as in their
> order doesn't fall in the first 1000) been billed yet. FYI our rt# was
> 3054. I am aware of the fact that the ticket number is not
2615 and nothing yet. But the first batch was split
On 27 Jul 2007, at 18:19, Eric Johnson wrote:
It'll be a bit of a blow if the phone won't work with the largest
US GSM operators SIM cards!
But it's not a finished product and it's good that this issue has
been identified now. It was always going to be the time when these
things get d
On 27 Jul 2007, at 23:56, Nelson Castillo wrote:
We didn't know about CSD. Good. We are not trying to avoid any
cost. We
just care about the latency of the GPRS link which renders it
rather unusable,
at least in our country.
As a mental model, you can think of the Neo as an Linux/ARM b
On 28 Jul 2007, at 00:46, Xamindar wrote:
Whao, I didn't know that. I assumed it at least had edge. That
totally sucks if it is only has GPRS. What is going on with new
phones these days? Seems like they are going backwards in speeds,
i-phone and now this.
HSDPA support? Why not? Is
On 28 Jul 2007, at 14:23, Max Giesbert wrote:
sounds like an excellent idea to me. would definitely be a killer
application to use the phone in a peer-to-peer style without using the
telco network.
UI-wise this could be realized in organizing the addressbook more
like a
IM client where you c
On 28 Jul 2007, at 14:49, Jay Vaughan wrote:
Fact is: its easier and easier for bright teams to engineer their
own hardware, and openmoko is a case in point. lets not forget the
open part of this equation, and instead why don't we just leave the
future direction of things, indeed, fairly
On 28 Jul 2007, at 15:08, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
I would much rather have a package manager (think apt) than
something like
that. And OpenEmbedded already provides that, from what I understand.
ipkg is based on dpkg, it's more lightweight.
Don't get me wrong, we need package management
On 28 Jul 2007, at 22:44, Steven Milburn wrote:
This one-button-at-a-time is not an uncommon to existing phones.
Many phone keypads are implemented in such a way that they do not
register multiple key presses at the same time. For instance, when
playing the "Asphalt Urban GT 3D", a Java
On 29 Jul 2007, at 20:50, Derek Pressnall wrote:
I was thinking of an idea for those who only have the option to use a
non-gsm phone (i.e., US-based Sprint/Verizon customers). These
carriers will only activate devices they sell, but there is a way
around it. Most of them market a compact-flas
On 29 Jul 2007, at 22:58, Lars Hallberg wrote:
One important point is reputation. If openmoko is known to be a
geek phone no one else will get interested in it.
And exactly that will happen if it is pushed to the masses while
not really good enough for the masses. Personally I think we
On 30 Jul 2007, at 00:49, Nkoli wrote:
So, there I was pretending my phone has a touchscreen while I wait
for GTA02 when this idea popped into my head for a keyboard
alternative. I would very much like to hear thoughts. The design
would remove the onscreen keyboard completely and replace i
On 30 Jul 2007, at 01:38, David Lefty Schlesinger wrote:
Graffiti (as it pertains to handwriting systems) is a registered
trademark of ACCESS Systems Americas, not a generic term; you want
to find some alternate terminology.
Sorry, gotta point it out, it's part of my job...
It's a dicti
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