On Friday 13 June 2008 21:22:12 Ben Burdette wrote:
What would be cool would be a QVGA-to-VGA transition effect where a
'blurry' QVGA app comes into focus as you transition to VGA mode. So
suppose you are in an application selection screen, you select an
application and it 'zooms' to the app
2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:40:08 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On 10 Jun 2008, at 02:17, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
browsing full web pages scrammed into a 2.8 screen as many have
suggested, is
really...
True...someone mentioned a month view for a calendar with a meaningful
amount of content as a use case for a higher resolution screen, but on
a three-inch display, you're not getting any significant amount of
data across without a magnifying glass.
I'm feeling reminded of those creditcard
2008/6/13 enaut [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm feeling reminded of those creditcard sized poket calendars we have
in germany. on those you have got the calendar information of a whole
year + the Information of hollidays and other special days. land
everything is readable and pretty clear to read. so
What hasn't been entirely clear to me in this discussion is whether,
with the current VGA screen, we are able to enter a QVGA mode and run as
quickly as with a true QVGA screen.
If that is the case, then why not use the QVGA for some things, like
application selection, the phone dialer, or
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb Chris Wright:
Since the alternative to using QVGA is using VGA with a faster GPU and
processor,
One last time:
...OR USING VGA IN QVGA MODE WITH SAME PROCESSOR, AND SWITCH TO VGA WHENEVER
YOU NEED THIS RESOLUTION.
It's all about nothing else than just saving some
: Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)
Para: community@lists.openmoko.org
CC: Chris Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fecha: viernes, 13 junio, 2008 9:52
Am Fr 13. Juni 2008 schrieb Chris Wright:
Since the alternative to using QVGA is using VGA with
a faster GPU
Is there an 'official' designation of the target market for the GTA03?
i.e., freerunner is geeks/early adopters
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:21:25 +0800 W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Is there an 'official' designation of the target market for the GTA03?
i.e., freerunner is geeks/early adopters
don't know. there is only right now what the state of gta03 currently is in
terms of what the hardware
2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
No, I haven't. Could you post a screenshot of how it looks? Maybe if I
see it I can be convinced, I'm at least that open minded.
can't as i did it years ago on my ipaq. but it's the same font as here:
2008/6/11 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
if the vocal group here are to be accounted for going to these screens would
be
utterly bad and we should accept nothing less than vga so wvga (800x480) is
the
only way up into the future.
So you argue to put a lesser screen on
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:38:59 +0200 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
No, I haven't. Could you post a screenshot of how it looks? Maybe if I
see it I can be convinced, I'm at least that open minded.
can't as i did it years
2008/6/11 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
if the vocal group here are to be accounted for going to these screens
would be utterly bad and we should accept nothing less than vga so wvga
(800x480) is the only way up into the future.
So you argue to put a lesser screen on
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:48:10 +0200 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2008/6/11 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
if the vocal group here are to be accounted for going to these screens
would be utterly bad and we should accept nothing less than vga so wvga
(800x480) is
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
even widescreen VGA, like the PSP?).
Stroller.
it will be better - of course. what' i'm baffled about is why all of a sudden
here a lot of excellent vision gifted people turn up, whereas in real life i
never see them... :)
Ok, time to
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:57:13AM +0800, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
the day the design mockups for the ui i see stop having alpha
transparency is the day i make this unimportant. until that day,
your i don't care about this is the kind of opinion that i also am
not interested in, because i am
Who are these weird people that think window transparency on an
underpowered phone is a good idea?! What functionality does THAT give
us? I'd like to see some justification, if not from you then from
whoever is responsible for these ideas. I've lived without window
transparancy on all my PCs and
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Ken Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:57:13AM +0800, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
the day the design mockups for the ui i see stop having alpha
transparency is the day i make this unimportant. until that day,
your i don't care about this is
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:43:22 -0700 Dave O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
I said this in the channel but you weren't there.
We should be going forward with specs, not backward. By the time the
next revisions come there'll be a whole new generation of hardware so
the freerunner will then
go forward and increase specs (and performance),
--- El mar, 10/6/08, Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
De: Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)
Para: List for Openmoko community discussion community
0n Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 01:43:08PM +0800, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
we are in a world where to get gfx support to run such high resolutions
means we need to have closed drivers. and that is not
Curious, why is that ?
-aW
IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian
(LOL, I said it like I have some influence in openmoko
decisions) because we must go forward and increase specs (and performance),
--- El mar, 10/6/08, Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
De: Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about
as i have said before - gta03 is vga - as it stands, but can go to qvga
easily,
but is unlikely to. in the future who knows. it'd be a tradeoff of screen
pixel
count vs processor speed vs any graphics acceleration we can get - if any.
--
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL
2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/6/9 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
an 80x24 terminal is possible to make it readable @ qvga - if we allow
scrolling. (and possible in landscape with an ultra-tiny 4-pixel wide font
-
possible (3 pixels
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:44 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:10:20 + (GMT) David Samblas Martinez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Hi Carsten
I suppose you passion to be in favor of qvga has to have an strong reason.
You have asked to us why
2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
what people have been saying here is that they have excellent eyesight and can
see a tin 2.8 vga screen well enough to make use of it. like really see the
difference and be able to do things with that res that would be not possible,
eg we make a miniature phone that is 1/2 the size of the freerunner
- qvga is very very likely - or even less as vga just wont be available
at that size
well, less physical size is a very plausible rationale for qvga (or hvga)
-- but, as i understand, we are talking about the size of the
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:01:03 +0530 rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
as i have said before - gta03 is vga - as it stands, but can go to qvga
easily,
but is unlikely to. in the future who knows. it'd be a tradeoff of screen
pixel
count vs processor speed vs any graphics
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:57:36 +0300 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
nb - your chars just become tall (3x7). eg:
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3 480x272. it's thinner than the current vga 2.8 by a fair bit and a tiny
bit
longer (as it is wide). it seems almost the perfect screen for a
smaller/slimmer model like gta04/05 etc. same # of pixels as the PSP
screen,
but in a much smaller space.
http://www.firefox.com
Good enough for
On 10 Jun 2008, at 02:17, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
browsing full web pages scrammed into a 2.8 screen as many have
suggested, is
really... pushing such a tiny screen far beyond its usefulness. web
pages are
designed for 14 or 17 screens or so. squeezing them down into
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:57:36 +0300 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
nb - your chars just become tall (3x7). eg:
I understand. I would
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) pisze:
[...]
maybe it just needs people to actually use it for a while and they might begin
to see that a lower res screen may just be fine and not as bad as they think.
the things you want to do are possible at lower resolutions.
well, as for now I have
I'm with Robert on this one. Took me a while to parse many of the
characters on that image.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, robert lazarski wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:57:36 +0300 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6/10/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:10:22 +0200 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On 6/9/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
an 80x24 terminal is possible to make it readable @ qvga -
On 6/10/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:01:03 +0530 rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
as i have said before - gta03 is vga - as it stands, but can go to qvga
easily,
but is unlikely to. in the future who knows. it'd be
On 6/10/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:53:49 +0300 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/6/9 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
an 80x24 terminal is
Am Di 10. Juni 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:16:06 +0800 Wilkinson, Alex
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
0n Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 01:43:08PM +0800, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
we are in a world where to get gfx support to run such high
resolutions
means we
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:00:54 -0300 robert lazarski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:57:36 +0300 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:07:40 +0200 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Am Di 10. Juni 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:16:06 +0800 Wilkinson, Alex
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
0n Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 01:43:08PM +0800, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:40:08 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On 10 Jun 2008, at 02:17, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
browsing full web pages scrammed into a 2.8 screen as many have
suggested, is
really... pushing such a tiny screen far beyond its usefulness. web
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:51:03 +0200 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/Tech/x11fonts.html
see the 4x8 font at the top. bdf downloadable and usable.
Wow! That is amazing! Now I am 100% convinced that QVGA is not
that bad:) I could read it
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:44:09 +0200 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
3 480x272. it's thinner than the current vga 2.8 by a fair bit and a tiny
bit longer (as it is wide). it seems almost the perfect screen for a
smaller/slimmer model like gta04/05 etc. same # of pixels
i asked for use case because i am not just talking quality. i am
talking a case
where vga makes something possible at all or not. where something
just wouldn't
be usable or possible without vga. that is what i asked. i want a
use case for
vga. not just a it looks a bit nicer.
2008/6/9 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
no. it is absolutely not enough. why? i am asked by product management to do
things that are just not possible in vga (to do sanely/fast). they come first.
you users come second. in the end if product management want X they get X. and
On Monday 09 June 2008 02:56:22 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
wouldn't be usable or possible without vga. that is what i asked. i want a
use case for vga. not just a it looks a bit nicer.
Try browsing the web in a QVGA window sometimes, IMHO it's an exercise in
futility no matter if you try to
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:56:22 +0800 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:58:15 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
we could just not ever even ask you guys and you get what you are
given. too
bad. no input at all.
My personal use cases for higher resolution:
- programming on the freerunner. I've been learning Haskell, I want to
get ghci or hugs on there and hack around with that. Also I'm thinking
about running the glade editor on there, if that's possible.
- using the freerunner as a remote control
2008/6/9 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
an 80x24 terminal is possible to make it readable @ qvga - if we allow
scrolling. (and possible in landscape with an ultra-tiny 4-pixel wide font -
possible (3 pixels for text, 1 for space). not very nice though.
That is unusable. I'm
2008/6/9 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/6/9 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
an 80x24 terminal is possible to make it readable @ qvga - if we allow
scrolling. (and possible in landscape with an ultra-tiny 4-pixel wide font -
possible (3 pixels for text, 1 for space). not
On 6/9/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
an 80x24 terminal is possible to make it readable @ qvga - if we allow
scrolling. (and possible in landscape with an ultra-tiny 4-pixel wide font -
possible (3 pixels for text, 1 for space). not very nice though.
How can
Chris Wright wrote:
2008/6/9 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/6/9 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
an 80x24 terminal is possible to make it readable @ qvga - if we allow
scrolling. (and possible in landscape with an ultra-tiny 4-pixel wide font -
possible (3
2008/6/9 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 6/9/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
an 80x24 terminal is possible to make it readable @ qvga - if we allow
scrolling. (and possible in landscape with an ultra-tiny 4-pixel wide font -
possible (3
Why not? I do it on a nokia n800. I don't use it a massive amount but it
is fairly usable and that's also only 480px high (in freerunner landscape,
in freerunner portrait it's 640px high).
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Robert Taylor wrote:
Chris Wright wrote:
2008/6/9 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:43:51 +0200 Peter Kraker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
not going to happen - that's 2 product runs. expensive to maintain. gta03 is
vga right now - unless there is a very big push to qvga. it is possible to go,
and not hard at all. it would save costs on hardware, but it won't
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:11:37 +0200 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2008/6/9 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 6/9/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
an 80x24 terminal is possible to make it readable @ qvga - if we allow
scrolling. (and
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:10:22 +0200 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On 6/9/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
an 80x24 terminal is possible to make it readable @ qvga - if we allow
scrolling. (and possible in landscape with an ultra-tiny
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:15:26 +0200 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2008/6/9 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
an 80x24 terminal is possible to make it readable @ qvga - if we allow
scrolling. (and possible in landscape with an ultra-tiny 4-pixel wide font -
possible
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:16:11 +0200 Peter J. Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On 2008-06-09 09:09:15 -0400, Ken Young wrote:
The question should be Are you willing to give up the benefits of a
VGA screen in order to have smooth animation and fast video on a QVGA
screen, and a lower cost?.
I said this in the channel but you weren't there.
We should be going forward with specs, not backward. By the time the
next revisions come there'll be a whole new generation of hardware so
the freerunner will then be lagging even more. Someone mentioned getting
a faster cpu and my 2c are that I
ti, 2008-06-10 kello 08:52 +0800, Carsten Haitzler kirjoitti:
but beyond gta03 it's an open book and who knows - we may likely
pull out a lower res screen. it is in fact very likely something will be a
lower res in later products as there is just so much more choice there below
vga.
As a =VGA
but there is definitely a i want as insane a dpi as i can get
group here.
this is for sure. the question is - is it really the majority of
users. :)
Hm. You can't answer that before defining who the user is (choose
between: me, you, this community, worldwide population)?
Discussing the
The root of all evil it seems is glamo. Why not remove the damn thing and
put in a new VGA hw which performs at the current CPU speeds? Is this
something not doable? There was a topic about SDIO multiplexing sometime
back and a hack to achieve this. Any headway on that?
Rahul J
On Sun, Jun 8,
IMHO, if the 320x240 display is readable under bright sunlight, it might be a
better choice than the VGA display used in the GTA01. With the current
display, the phone looks great inside a building / conference hall / photo
studio, but it's pretty much useless as a GPS device you'd want to use
Glamo _will_ be out in GTA03. Unfortunately the slow arm9 will stay. Better
then with glamo it seems, but not perfect.
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The root of all evil it seems is glamo. Why not remove the damn thing and
put in a new VGA hw which
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:02:03 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
but there is definitely a i want as insane a dpi as i can get
group here.
this is for sure. the question is - is it really the majority of
users. :)
Hm. You can't answer that before defining who
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 11:57 AM, polz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IMHO, if the 320x240 display is readable under bright sunlight, it might be a
better choice than the VGA display used in the GTA01. With the current
display, the phone looks great inside a building / conference hall / photo
studio,
Op Sunday 08 June 2008 14:25:35 schreef Carsten Haitzler:
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:02:03 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
but there is definitely a i want as insane a dpi as i can get
group here.
this is for sure. the question is - is it really the majority of
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:06:16 +0300 Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
actually - no. most linux developers and users i know need contacts/glasses
and
they can never read my screen and complain about my fonts being so small all
we could just not ever even ask you guys and you get what you are
given. too
bad. no input at all. i've opened up the floor for input - but i'm
trying to
dig specific things out of it - not things that smell ofi just want
higher
specs. or keeping up with the joneses. i want real use
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:58:15 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
we could just not ever even ask you guys and you get what you are
given. too
bad. no input at all. i've opened up the floor for input - but i'm
trying to
dig specific things out of it - not things
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:26:15 +0300 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
2008/6/8 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
iphone dpi is very much lower than the neo, but a large margin, but users
rave how nice it is.
I had the pleasure of playing with an iPhone recently, and I
I'll go for resolution over pretty graphics any day of the week.
A day to day example of this is that I don't run compiz on my desktop
machines because it runs faster that way. I'm a function over form kinda
guy. (For the record, the distro is Ubuntu, not slackware, or gentoo, or
anything that
Well were all those 'never see them' people linux users and interested
in openmoko? Haha we might just all be gifted people ! :D
On 6/7/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 01:30:43 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On 6 Jun 2008, at 23:19,
On Saturday 07 June 2008 00:19:27 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
I.e. the problem should be solved by a faster processor with better
GPU rather
than challenging and and trying to redue user's expectations. Can you
build
container trucks smaller because then they need much less parking space?
On Friday 06 June 2008 19:18:43 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Yes. This should be IMHO the future for GTA03 - use a better chipset
rather than a worse display resolution.
Full ACK.
Some application I have choosen makes regular screen updates:
Neo 1973 every 0.5 seconds (due
On Friday 06 June 2008 20:07:01 Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen:
When it comes to GTA03, I will not buy one (because I buy the GTA02),
so I will not be the target. Maybe QVGA is a good solution, or maybe it
should be an option when you buy
How is the iPhone doing it? It has Half-VGA resolution and feels
very smooth.
it has a hardware-accelerated 3d chipset with full opengl drivers.
and a very
good chipset at that. that is why. as for half-vga. that's still
HALF the
pixels the freerunner/neo1973 have. *IF* we shipped the
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:06:16 +0300 Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
actually - no. most linux developers and users i know need contacts/glasses and
they can never read my screen and complain about my fonts being so small all
the time (not that i will ever change. i love my small fonts!), but
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:08:05 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
How is the iPhone doing it? It has Half-VGA resolution and feels
very smooth.
it has a hardware-accelerated 3d chipset with full opengl drivers.
and a very
good chipset at that. that is why. as for
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:46:28 +0200 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On Friday 06 June 2008 20:07:01 Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen:
When it comes to GTA03, I will not buy one (because I buy the GTA02),
so I will not be the
IMHO: You can drive a VGA screen at QVGA, but you can't drive a QVGA
screen at VGA...
Cheers,
Federico
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:16 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:46:28 +0200 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On Friday 06 June
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
but there is definitely a i want as insane a dpi as i can get group here.
this is for sure. the question is - is it really the majority of users. :)
No it's not at all the question - other than for academic insight.
If a VGA-screen isn't much more
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 5:12 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:06:16 +0300 Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
actually - no. most linux developers and users i know need contacts/glasses
and
they can never read my screen and complain about my
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 5:12 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:06:16 +0300 Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
actually - no. most linux developers and users i know need
I agree with you that the VGA screen is very important for marketing the
Freerunner - other comparable smartphones dont have that feature and are
certainly no where near in terms of DPI. I am also assuming that OM wont
discontinue the GTA02 (Freerunner) when GTA03 comes out. So mass market
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:09:55 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
IMHO, reducing any Openmoko device to QVGA will be the end of the
Openmoko project. And I have business reasons to wish that OM
survives...
why would it be the end? the majority of phones in the
Am 06.06.2008 um 09:45 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman):
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:09:55 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL
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babbled:
IMHO, reducing any Openmoko device to QVGA will be the end of the
Openmoko project. And I have business reasons to wish that OM
All of the geeks that I have shown my GTA01 to have been in awe of
it's high-res VGA screen.
Whatever direction OpenMoko wants to go in, I'm sure geeks will always
be a large part of their target demographic.
To touch on Gabriel's comment, WVGA would be the same resolution as
the Nokia N800
On Friday 06 June 2008 09:45:29 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
the problem is - if you have a nice screen but the engine to power it is
underpowered, you will suffer from complaints of it just being slow then
instead.
I'd like to wave the little please can we have a decent SoC flag again. Yes,
the
I forgot to mention that not only is WVGA (800 x 480) the resolution
of Nokia's N800 series internet tablets but also the Asus Eee PC
(original), which is a tiny laptop for web browsing and has surprised
the world by selling so well.
Drool over this engadget post from 2006 about a 2.9 inch WVGA
On Friday 06 June 2008 13:11:32 Justyn Butler wrote:
To touch on Gabriel's comment, WVGA would be the same resolution as
the Nokia N800 series but in a more compact screen.
With that resolution perhaps the GTA03 would start tapping into other
unexpected markets - for example some of the
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:17:46 +0100 Justyn Butler justynbutler
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I forgot to mention that not only is WVGA (800 x 480) the resolution
of Nokia's N800 series internet tablets but also the Asus Eee PC
(original), which is a tiny laptop for web browsing and has surprised
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:34:30 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Am 06.06.2008 um 09:45 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman):
Yes, slowness is the most critical complaint. But how should I
convince anyone
to buy an OM if I also have a QVGA device which feels fast
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:15:10 +0200 Tom Cooksey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
On Friday 06 June 2008 09:45:29 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
the problem is - if you have a nice screen but the engine to power it is
underpowered, you will suffer from complaints of it just being slow then
instead.
I'd
On 6/6/08, Tom Cooksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 06 June 2008 09:45:29 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
the problem is - if you have a nice screen but the engine to power it is
underpowered, you will suffer from complaints of it just being slow then
instead.
I'd like to wave the little
Hi,
(I try to cut out some citations).
this is my dilemma. win with dpi and sharpness, but then lose in
smoothness/speed. i lean a bit to- smoothness myself, but i want to
hear the
peanut gallery so to speak :) (please don't take offence! i'm
seriously about
listening that's why i ask!)
Samsung also seems to have no more ((partially) useful) docs about the s3c
series online.
Why not switch to freescale, and get solid arm11 SoCs with more power then
even the samsung pedants and million times used in smartphones of all
vendors? They even have hundreds of sites in documents freely
Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen:
When it comes to GTA03, I will not buy one (because I buy the GTA02),
so I will not be the target. Maybe QVGA is a good solution, or maybe it
should be an option when you buy
If I got that right, we just need to tune some of the
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