Re: SE/30 ethernet card

2005-07-30 Thread Bryan Kattwinkel
on 7/28/05 3:00 PM, Stuart Bell wrote: The other issue is software - what System are you using, with what=20 extensions? Even more important is whether the driver has been installed. Most 3rd party ethernet cards REQUIRE a driver that gets installed directly into the System File. Extensions

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread Bryan Kattwinkel
on 7/28/05 3:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... i.e. OSX won't see your System 7 AppleTalk Macs. This is a myth. ALL versions of OS X support AppleTalk over Ethernet. They all work fine with AppleTalk-only LaserWriters. They will all see each other when attempting to set up File Sharing

Re: MacTracker

2005-07-30 Thread Bryan Kattwinkel
on 7/29/05 2:08 PM, Dr.O.M.Betz wrote: ... MacTracker ... download the program which is a must for every Mac aficionado IMHO ... The Mac version of MacTracker requires Mac OS 9.2.x or later. It sort-of runs on 9.1 but your Mac will invariably crash shortly after running it. The developer has

Re: Upgrading an SE's HD

2005-07-30 Thread Bryan Kattwinkel
on 7/29/05 6:35 PM, Lavode wrote: The drive was in a 7300 running OS 9.x in it's previous life, so I put the new drive into an old PowerComputing tower running 8.6, formatted the HD in Standard (not extended) ... If Apple Drive Setup was used to format the drive while running on a PowerMac,

Re: Upgrading an SE's HD

2005-07-30 Thread Bryan Kattwinkel
on 7/30/05, I wrote: The easiest solution is to format again while connected to a 68K Mac. If you can't even boot, that's not going to be very easy :) Here's a way to do it: connect all the scsi cables, but not the power cable to the problem drive. Boot the 68k Mac and start the formatting

Re: Upgrading an SE's HD

2005-07-30 Thread Darren
Jeff Walther wrote: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 09:05:25 +1000 From: Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Niven wrote: SCSI Mac hard drives need to be non-parity. But termination is probably the most critical thing. Why, if a drive comes from one mac as a boot disk and is inserted into another

Re: MacTracker

2005-07-30 Thread Darren
Bryan Kattwinkel wrote: on 7/29/05 2:08 PM, Dr.O.M.Betz wrote: ... MacTracker ... download the program which is a must for every Mac aficionado IMHO ... The Mac version of MacTracker requires Mac OS 9.2.x or later. It sort-of runs on 9.1 but your Mac will invariably crash shortly

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread Darren
Stuart Bell wrote: On 30 Jul 2005, at 07:23, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote: on 7/28/05 3:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... i.e. OSX won't see your System 7 AppleTalk Macs. This is a myth. ALL versions of OS X support AppleTalk over Ethernet. They all work fine with AppleTalk-only

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread Stuart Bell
On 30 Jul 2005, at 12:23, Darren wrote: we have the ashes yet again, how dull. One match does not make a series. It's not over till the fat lady spins. Stuart (In Hampshire, home of the Rose Bowl) -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread Darren
Stuart Bell wrote: On 30 Jul 2005, at 12:23, Darren wrote: we have the ashes yet again, how dull. One match does not make a series. It's not over till the fat lady spins. If he can stay off the phone long enough its in the bag. You need 4 wins. :( not going to happen even without

Mac OS Standard Format Specifications

2005-07-30 Thread surfsidesix
Subject: Re: Upgrading an SE's HD In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antonio Rodríguez escribió: About size limits: Systems prior to 7.5.1 had a limit of 2 Gb per partition, Systems from 7.5.3 to 8.0 had a limit of 4 Gb, and System 8.1 introduced HFS+ and raised the limit to a quantity that I

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread woodwynlane
Thanks for rushing to my defense, Stuart. However, he is right ... this is a semantic issue that has been discussed here before. BUT, it must be taken in context -- we were talking about the SE showing up on the AppleTalk bus of a network computer. An SE is NOT a LaserWriter. So the broad term

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread Lavode
On Jul 29, 2005, at 11:23 PM, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote: on 7/28/05 3:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... i.e. OSX won't see your System 7 AppleTalk Macs. This is a myth. ALL versions of OS X support AppleTalk over Ethernet. Thanks to this and my G5 list, I was able to buy an Asante EN/SC

Re: Upgrading an SE's HD

2005-07-30 Thread John Niven
On Jul 30, 2005, at 2:42 AM, Darren wrote: However, I agree that the disk driver software which was loaded on the disk when it as initialized could be the culprit. All of these things need to be checked. The leap from OS6 to OS7 is more of a driver update, once you pass OS8 things are

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread John Niven
On Jul 30, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Lavode wrote: On Jul 29, 2005, at 11:23 PM, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote: on 7/28/05 3:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... i.e. OSX won't see your System 7 AppleTalk Macs. This is a myth. ALL versions of OS X support AppleTalk over Ethernet. Thanks to this and my

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread Stuart Bell
On 30 Jul 2005, at 17:56, Lavode wrote: G5 is running OS X 10.3.9, Just wait till you install Tiger! ;-) Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info:

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread Lavode
HOW? :-) I can't get anything lower than 8.1 to talk to my 10.3.9 BW. Did you have to change a setting on the G5? John Well, I can tell you everything I did, but that might not help. 1. Maxed out the SE's RAM to 4 MB 2. Installed System 7.5.3 with the networking extensions. (I used a

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread Lavode
On Jul 30, 2005, at 11:35 AM, Stuart Bell wrote: On 30 Jul 2005, at 17:56, Lavode wrote: G5 is running OS X 10.3.9, Just wait till you install Tiger! ;-) Stuart I've been afraid of Tiger ever since it came out. The DVD is still sitting in my OS case, but that's as close as it's gotten

Re: OS X AppleTalk myths

2005-07-30 Thread Doug McNutt
At 10:59 -0700 7/30/05, John Niven wrote: I can't get anything lower than 8.1 to talk to my 10.3.9 BW. Did you have to change a setting on the G5? I am running an SE/30 file server under 7.5.3 with a 10.3.9 G4 on the network.. When I set it up the first time, in Jaguar, I found that I had to

Re: Upgrading an SE's HD

2005-07-30 Thread Lavode
On Jul 29, 2005, at 11:39 PM, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote: on 7/30/05, I wrote: The easiest solution is to format again while connected to a 68K Mac. If you can't even boot, that's not going to be very easy :) Here's a way to do it: connect all the scsi cables, but not the power cable to the

Re: Upgrading an SE's HD

2005-07-30 Thread Lavode
Hi all, I am working on formatting my 2 GB drive with a patched HD SC Setup 7.3.5, and it has no options on zeroing data, it can only initialize. Or am I missing something here? TIA, Lavode --- I was young and foolish then, I feel old and foolish now. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by

Re: Upgrading an SE's HD

2005-07-30 Thread Lavode
Hi again, Well, I am now at the end of a very long road. I figured out that my 2GB, while sitting in it's enclosure, never had the enclosure jumpers set on the ID jumper pins, so every time I started up, there was a SCSI ID conflict. I used HD SC Setup, and after it finished initializing,

Re: SE/30 ethernet card

2005-07-30 Thread Charles M Gascoigne
Hi all, I've got an ethernet card in my SE/30 and I've installed: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/ Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Networking- Communications/Network_Software_Installer/NSI_ZM-1.4.5.sea.bin for 6.0.8, which is the newest version for