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it requires a System Enabler.
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to install
this specific cable.
Thanks in advance.
Götz
I have the original grayscale installation guide and will contact you offlist.
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Looking for the
4nF = 4000pF = .004 µF
1500 V
Found 3900 pF 2000 volt ceramic disk caps in my old Digi-Key catalog,
should be easy to make up a minimum order because they're $12 each!
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or more fan
manufactures were used, so maybe the differences in noise level are
associated with that.
Given the checkered history of the Plus, I wouldn't think it a good idea to
run the SE/30 fanless.
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I can't seem to get any of the utilities I have tried to create a Mac boot
disk on PC to work
Gary
There might be something here that helps:
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Hi Gamba:
Couldn't access it. Got an error spelling message.
David Harris
Works for me.
Maybe you accidently copied one of the enclosing carets when you copied
over the URL.
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Has anyone managed to get MacPascal on their compact Macs? It's
available from System 6 Heaven
(http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/development.html).
My problem is that I've never been unable to unstuff the archive.
Paul
A look at the .sit file's type code showed it to be a Stuffit 5 file.
Gamba
ISTR it's the IIsi ROMs that the SE/30 possibly for some people works
with, not the IIfx ones. :-(
Stuart
Why would the IIfx ROM have any less chance than the IIsi ROM of working in
the SE/30?
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I have a daystar setup for an SE, it's a big motherboard covering
affair for the adapter, than a normal Powercache ontop. I'd post
pics, but my camera is absolute crap.
Joshua Coombs
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Does it look like the pics here?
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/adapter_images/
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So why all the pins on the IIfx memory? Does anyone know?
Jeff Walther
This is just a wild guess: Maybe they had to use lots of extra ground pins
to get the IIfx's speed to work with the technology that they had back then.
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If you google for this h/w note, it casts some light on the subject:
HW25-Mac Mem Configurations.pdf
Stuart
From Apple, it's here:
http://developer.apple.com/technotes/hw/pdf/hw_25.pdf
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even on my website, but I'm too lazy to
look right now. :-)
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I have a daystar setup for an SE, it's a big motherboard covering
affair for the adapter, than a normal Powercache ontop. I'd post
pics, but my camera is absolute crap.
Joshua Coombs
Does it look like the pics here?
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/adapter_images/
Gamba
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Does it look like the pics here?
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/adapter_images/
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That looks like it. I'd have to crack the box open to give a 100%
positive ID, but that does appear to be the same beast.
Joshua Coombs
Those pics came from a friend
for this list because:
1..Auctions on eBay are going no bids.
2..LEM Swap list members aren't into our stuff either.
3..Traffic on this list, having declined over the years, can now bear the
extra traffic.
But, having said, the once removed rule should not apply for swaps.
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it's an SE/30 running 7.5.5 with Mode32 7.5, 20MB ram, and a 2.255GB scsi
(used Lido to make it work). the ram is 4 x 4MB (8-chip) and 4 x 1MB
(3-chip). i get the same problem with any other configuration (OS, ram,
HD, etc.)
any ideas?
jj
Try removing the 3 chip SIMMs.
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Asanté MacCon+30iET64 (MC+30IET64)
What are numbers that are on the sticker on the ROM?
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popular that Apple couldn't phase out the SE/30 as soon
as they wanted to, according to my neighbor who worked at Apple marketing
at the time.
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that they aren't, but, something worth trying is
to put 4 1MB SIMMs or 4 0.25MB SIMMs in Bank B.
I had a set of 4 16 MB SIMMs that wouldn't work in a SE/30 until I did that.
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heads, what should I use, H20, alcohol, etc?
Isopropyl alcohol and Q-tips for cleaning heads.
I use a vacuum cleaner hose, while holding top head steady, to suck out the
worst of the crud from the whole thing.
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But I have vague memory of similar mentions also somewhere else which I
can't remember right now.
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As I recall, someone here had compiled a list of modern part
replacements to use when refurbishing a Mac Plus analog board. Is
that still available somewhere?
Is this it?
http://macfaq.org/plusanalogue.html
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video cards cost a lot
less and are (slightly) more common than is the Micron XCeed card that is
internal grayscale compatible.
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. Then once that's working go on from there.'
And a session with Disk First Aid should be the first thing.
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How you can prefer any LC to an SE/30 defies comprehension.
Stuart
Color?
13 and 14 monitors?
8-bit video?
Eat your heart out SE/30! :-)
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I have installed System 7.1 ENG to a Mac Plus (4Mb) and a Classic I (4Mb)
but I have a problem with the Classic I ;
Thanks
Did you install System Update 3.0?
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I seem to remember a few months back that someone said there was a mirror
to the MDM site
Thanks,
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I had the mirror but dropped the Costar listing because the file wasn't in
the MDM site's download.
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the file suffix
says.
I have seen .img files that wouldn't mount with 6.3.3 unless I tried it a
certain way.
The method that seems to be best is to drag the .img file icon into the
6.3.3 window. I have seen that work when using the mount command in the
pulldown menu didn't work.
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Active after you turn the Mac all the off, then turn it
back on again then that could be a bad PRAM battery.
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HTH
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Disk First Aid on that boot floppy would be a good idea, to run it on the
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Thanks for the replies. I did not have Mode32 installed (does that run on
an SE anyway ?).
No it doesn't
Gamba, are you saying that maybe my Harddisk is damaged in some way ? Bad
sectors perhaps, maybe that would explain the crash on installation.
Probably not bad sectors if it was working OK
an Easy install works, but Resedit hacks are required.
I looked for info on Gamba's pages but couldn't find any.
It's here, til end of month:
http://home.earthlink.net/~strahm_s/os8_se30.html
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did work with Fetch ftp client.
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http://home.earthlink.net/~strahm_s/
until the 1st of the month, when earthlink will restore original site.
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PS Anyone know the answer to the question about IIsi PDS-Nubus adapters
in SE/30s?
Stuart
The short answer, it works, with occasional and fixable firmware bugs
I got a webpage on it, but my website is down.
I'll email the page and images to you offlist.
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The short answer, it works, with occasional and fixable firmware bugs
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I should add: but it doesn't fit unless SE/30 PDS chassis slot is enlarged
or the adapter is mounted on top of something that has a PDS passthrough
connector, such as an Asante enet card.
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Gamba
I should add: but it doesn't fit unless SE/30 PDS chassis slot is enlarged
or the adapter is mounted on top of something that has a PDS passthrough
connector, such as an Asante enet card.
Gamba
Ooops, I just noticed
One issue might be the soldered-on FPU!
Stuart
Definitely an issue.
Since, AFAIK, all SE/30 mobos have soldered in FPU, you could cut off the
one in the IIsi NuBus adapter. :-)
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it was some kind of sabotage because although the traffic jumped
more than tenfold there was not any accompanying increase in hits.
How can they do that?
And who?
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you use to partition it?
A quick fix might be to add the Desktop Mgr extension to the System 6 Folder.
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foolproof way.
Douglas Aalseth
I thought that this utility would truly erase it:
ftp://ftp.thenextwave.com/pub/mac/burn/old/Burn21.hqx
by first trashing all drive contents then running Burn's Erase Free Space
tool.
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Except that with 7.5, I thought that there was an actual sleep function.
I'm guessing here, but I thought that worked only on PowerBooks.
I stand to be corrected.
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it down unnecessarily because I feel
that it might just get
tired of waiting for me and just conk out.
Robert
The repeated cycling of the power probably does more harm than just leaving
it on. Using a screensaver is harmless and lengthens the CRT life.
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has what you're looking for, which is Disk First Aid. The disk imag
file may not be titled Disk Tools until you mount it on the desktop or
make a floppy.
If you don't have the Disk Tools image file then you can get one here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/bootdisks.html
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if there is a termination
problem.
The acid test would be to see if that HD works any better as the internal
hard drive.
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the ROM checksum is to use MacEnvy 2.1.
Then go here to find out which ROM it is:
http://mes.emuunlim.com/tips/rom_checksums.htm
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Remy, would you please translate to English the above?
Are you connected with http://www.multimac.ch/?
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And we appreciate the old Mac sites in France.
Now, if we could just resurrect the old Mac stuff on crihan. :-)
And, on a more personal note, we *really* appreciate those old
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Sorry all,
Been a way for the last 8 hours as it was sleep time over here..
I have taken another shot as close as I can go and have sent to
Gambahopefully it will shed some more light on this...
Phil
Here it is:
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The FPU part
NEW URL:
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Ok.
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/images/100_1465.jpg
It looks like an accelerator.
Can't read the numbers on the chips but I'm guessing a 68030 with a 68882 FPU.
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Indeed. But where did the multi-pin PCB connector (on the right) go?
Stuart
Yea, the Plus logic card does not have a matching connector.
But the SE has a 32 pin connector on logic card, but pins in jpg don't seem
to have 3 rows like on SE VME connector.
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But the SE has a 32 pin connector on logic card,
Correction, it's 96 pin in SE..
And, fwiw, SE/30 PDS slot is 120 pin.
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What is the empty socket (about two inches from the left lower corner)
for?
Surely for a clock oscillator, because only the four corners have pins.
And what do you do with the beefy (12v?) power connector?
More likely 5V, but where to connect it on SE?
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At any rate, if someone could point me in the right direction,
J White
Take a look here
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/71more.html
at the 3 links that are under How to Network OS 7.1--OS 10.2.
*Might* help.
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that you need a specific version
of System 7.1 to do this,
Plain vanilla 7.1 will do OT, but install OT 1.1 before OR 1.1.2.
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the 7.1 Installer and select the New 7.1 disk as the destination
for the install.
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of what can be done is here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/images/macIIfxsch.GIF
The gif is created by first saving the ClarisDraw as a PICT file, then
converting PICT to gif using GraphicConverter 68k 3.9.1.
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Kinda like warming up an old vacuum tube radio...
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Yeah transistors are for kids. :-)
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Is it 32-bit clean?
Antonio Rodríguez (Grijan)
Yes it is, because it will support OS 7.6.1, which requires 32-bit clean ROM.
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I have a si and I want to put the clean rom in my
se/30.
I forgot to mention, all IIfx have 32 bit clean ROM SIMMs, and they also
work in the SE/30.
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documentation than does version 6.0.
ftp://ftp.ee.ualberta.ca/pub/electrical/mac/microsim/
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while the software to analyse the hard drive finds a
Miniscri 20, it can't mount it.
David Harris
Is the software that you mention Disk First Aid?
If yes, which version of it?
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time is due to longer memory test.
Are the 2 sets of 16MB simms identical?
And be sure that you have version 7.5 of Mode 32.
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it caused some system crashes, forget which
system though.
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one.aaargh.
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IOW, not only no, but hell no. :-)
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Are the Presto accelerators compatible with the SE/30, off the top of your
head (and my being really lazy at the moment).
According to their web page, no.
They have never offered the adapter for the SE/30 PDS slot that would be
required to get compatibility.
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.
The worst thing that should happen is it's buggy.
Also. the SE/30 chassis would have to be modified so that the Presto IIsi
adapter would fit thru the chassis hole into the PDS connector.
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How many watts does the SE/30 use?
Ken
I measured 45 watts. with 8 MB RAM and empty PDS slot.
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The grayscale adapter won't provide 640x480.
It provides 256 shades of gray on existing resolution of internal display.
The grayscale adapter requires 1 of 3 Micron Xceed PDS slot video cards.
The Micron Xceed PDS slot video card will provide 640x480 on external display.
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Assuming it still is in the ownership of Bhavesh Patel, why not ask HIM
what's happened to it?
Jeff
What's his addy?
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If you need space i can host a mirror of your site
(home.earthlink.net/~gamba2)
Please don't do that, especially because my site changes almost daily.
and Mac Driver Museum too.
Thanks for the offer but somebody else has already stepped forward.
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/files/
2nd Dove down.
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to 7.5.3 with floppies then you can install 7.5 and then
update with 7.5.3 Update 2.0, all of which are available as floppy disk
images.
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By the way I have it up now with 7.5.3
-Mike-
Open Transport 1.1.2 and OT/PPP 1.0 next?
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oDeskPICT, (?),
Jeff
Yes it's Deskpict.
Info about it, and others, is here:
http://consult.stanford.edu/pub/mac/mac_deskpict
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And as a subsidiary question: I tried to install 6.0.7 on the Classic II,
but that did not work.
Nobody has mentioned 6.0.8L. That works on a Classic II doesn't it?
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at 50 MHz.
Worse yet, the bus speed stays at 16 MHz, so, as anybody knows who has used
one of them, it's no where near 4 times faster.
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AppleShare File Server 2.0.1, but then the
system 6 Mac that has it can't be used to do anything else.
3..Another alternative is to change the privileges on the client Macs to
allow users to Make Changes, then you can send files to those Macs from
the system 6 Mac.
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In this paragraph you're telling us that the system 6 macs are file serving
to the 8500.
What's the problem then?
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It looks to me like it's an Apple SE/30 motherboard with the DayStar SE/30
PowerCache daughterboard plugged into the 68030 socket.
Gamba
On 2nd viewing of it, it ain't like any Apple motherboard that I've ever seen.
That the buyer now has.
1..That motherboard
2..Xceed Color 30 PDS card
3..Xceed
idea too because thickness at bottom of thread hole is thin,
so I risk punching thru front of case. So far so good, but I would never
try that on somebody else's compact.
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, and it wouldn't have anything valuable in it.
Are the keyboard and mouse hot swappable?
Not only NO, but HELL NO!
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Mac SE/30 for $2 each.
-Justin
Take a close look at that SE/30.
The last time somebody reported on this list that they bought an SE/30 for
that kind of price they found a video card in it that they sold on eBay for
almost $300!
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