Re: [CGUYS] Latest Win 7 Hack is Unfixable

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
This is a non-story. I was wondering how long it would take Chris to do a Dick Cheney on us. Gotta love the selective copy paste job, carefully crafted to omit the entire context of my statement. Cheesy politicians are pretty good at that sort of thing, too.

[CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

2009-04-29 Thread Sandra Raredon
My mom recently upgraded from Ibook to MacBook, Leopard OS. Everytime she wants to use wi-fi , her new computer keeps trying to log on the old network name. She is using a new network, so there is a conflict now. We tried to go to the advance mode and delete the old network, but it keeps coming

[CGUYS] What channel?

2009-04-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
Last night, one of the local TV stations informed viewers by way of scrolling text across the screen that in June, after the digital transition, their current digital channel will change. Their advice was to rescan all channels in order to find their new one. If you had any questions, their

[CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread David Turk
I had my first session yesterday, am amazed that Apple can offer this level of training for only $99/year. Myself several co-workers are learning Final Cut ( trust me, you need thrusters on full when learning this program). We can book sessions at once a week, over the internet. I've

Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread maruca
On Apr 29, 2009, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote: This may be specific to our store (the only one in Indianapolis- actually, the only Apple chain store in Indiana, although there are independent Apple stores), but maybe others have good experiences at their stores. Highly recommend it.

Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?

2009-04-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but what percentage of the time do you end up having to return electronic purchases made online? All this talk of reception problems, maybe a need for a special antenna, possibly roof antenna, etc. makes me think a return

Re: [CGUYS] What channel?

2009-04-29 Thread Tony B
You may not be confused, but many will be. It's tough enough in a 60 second spot to try to tell them to re-scan channels. What would even be the point of attempting to teach them how to re-program a single channel manually? Comcast just changed a couple channels in our lineup and I had to rescan

Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread Tony B
No question, Final Cut is one of the more difficult NLEs to learn. Very steep learning curve. Probably rivaled only by Avid. But let's not confuse your decision to go with a difficult app - one that virtually demands training - to then praise the trainers needed at whatever cost. You guys could

Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?

2009-04-29 Thread Richard P.
Walmart and Borders allows you to search the store's inventory online. Richard P. It would be so helpful if you could search a specific store's inventory online, rather than having to go in person or call and take a chance that a) anyone will answer and b) if they do, they will give you an

Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread David Turk
Hey, these days, when I get super-cynical over crappy service offered by pretty much everyone, talking with a knowledgeable, friendly rep is definitely praiseworthy. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History

Re: [CGUYS] Airport network not connecting with macbook

2009-04-29 Thread Jordan
Generally when a Mac does not see a network it has joined before and sees a new network, It will simply ask you if you want to join the new network. I suggest you call Apple and have them help you with your settings. If someone has messed with the settings or if your router is acting funny, it

[CGUYS] Can´t install IE7

2009-04-29 Thread Marcio
Hi fellows Here I am in my new computer. By mistake I installed Internet XP Home (Brazilian Portuguese). It came with an IE I am not sure the edition. I then installed IE 8 but my Brazilian bank would not work with it. I then unistalled it. I ended up 1ith IE

Re: [CGUYS] Can´t install IE7

2009-04-29 Thread Richard P.
Can you go back to the original IE version using system restore and the try to upgrade from there? Richard P. Hi fellows Here I am in my new computer. By mistake I installed Internet XP Home (Brazilian Portuguese). It came with an IE I am not sure the edition. I then installed IE 8 but my

Re: [CGUYS] Can´t install IE7

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
I then tried three times to install IE 7 on the top of IE 6. It goes well, finishes, tells me to re-start and... when I check IE the version remains 6.0.2900. Now what? Marcio, I don't know the answer to your question offhand, but I'm curious: when you had IE8 installed and it

Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I've always known Apple was good for its customer support, but this just blew me away. This may be specific to our store (the only one in Indianapolis-actually... Nope. They offer this coast to coast. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] What channel?

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Why make it such a mystery? Just tell me the channel, okay? I am not so stupid as to be unable to program the new channel myself as opposed to having to rely on my TV or converter box to do it for me. True. They have to file their plans with the FCC many months ahead so it is no secret. There

Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
There are many, and only FCP requires a proprietary OS. You forgot that there are some NLEs that also run on Windows. They are not as good as the three choices provided by Apple, but they are there. I have not looked at the NLEs available on Linux. What do you suggest?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. Oh yes, I forgot, it has to be crappy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread b_s-wilk
http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusive ly_to_verizon.html Everybody is guessing. I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. No. Manufacturers have redefined their too-big notebooks as netbooks to confuse consumers as to what real

Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread db
One on One a wonderful thing but it seems to me they will not be able to afford to keep doing it once Apple's current sales boom subsides... ? db Tom Piwowar wrote: I've always known Apple was good for its customer support, but this just blew me away. This may be specific to our store (the

Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema

2009-04-29 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Tom Piwowar Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its not unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of any other email way to get a hold of the government. You can put a CAPATCHA or other bot-obstacles in front of the form. Spammers attack web forms too. They have

Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
One on One a wonderful thing but it seems to me they will not be able to afford to keep doing it once Apple's current sales boom subsides... I was thinking they would not be able to afford to keep doing it as their sales kept booming. Too many takers would swamp their capacity.

Re: [CGUYS] Q: what are current best practices for limiting ema

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
What other types of questions? Just check street name against the list of streets in the community. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] MS ads: Rebuttal

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
http://tinyurl.com/c634vl See what happens when people actually think things through. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 28 Apr 2009 to 29 Apr 2009 - Special issue (#2009-417)

2009-04-29 Thread rileyca...@espsound.com
Go to the Airport Utility in the Utilities folder under the GO menu. Be sure the join open networks option is checked. If it already is then call the Apple genius, if not that should fix it. On Apr 29, 2009, at 12:41 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From: Sandra

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook? You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? My son has one. He

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. Oh yes, I forgot, it has to be crappy. No, it has to have a keyboard and a screen that you don't need a magnifying glass to see. As of the start of 2009, the established definition of a netbook was a notebook computer with a

Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread b_s-wilk
There are few NLEs that come close to Final Cut Pro. Maybe Avid, but it's even more confusing. Once you learn the basics of FCP, it has no rivals for professional video editing. And, yes, I've used quite a few apps/solutions over the past 15 years. No, I didn't have FCP training; RTFM and

Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Tom Piwowar wrote: There are many, and only FCP requires a proprietary OS. You forgot that there are some NLEs that also run on Windows. They are not as good as the three choices provided by Apple, but they are there. I have not looked at the NLEs available on Linux. What

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Following on the heels of yesterday's rumors of an Apple deal for a Verizon iPad, MS says me too. The Zune Phone commeth... http://www.pcworld.com/article/164022/microsoft_responds_to_verizon_pink_ru mor.html * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training

2009-04-29 Thread Jordan
I too have seen and heard nothing but amazing things about training from Apple. But I think they might be able to continue their training service even with the increased volume. I bet a lot of people don't make maximum use of their available training time they pay for, and it gets people back

Re: [CGUYS] MS ads: Rebuttal

2009-04-29 Thread Tony B
Who cares? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

[CGUYS] coming close to FCP

2009-04-29 Thread Tony B
Ha! Clearly in your own mind, anyway. Tell me one thing you can do with FCP that I can't do in virtually any other NLE - pick a random one for comparison - maybe Grass Valley's Edius. Premiere dropped support for Macs for a couple years due to lack of demand, but it's currently available for both

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread mike
Manufacturers decided what a netbook was in the first place, they can call it peanut butter toast for all we care. I have a friend who is 6'6 and about 335 pounds...a 17 notebook is a netbook in his hands. It's what you make it to be. It's what works for the person using it. Netbooks aren't

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
As of the start of 2009, the established definition of a netbook was a notebook computer with a low-powered x86-compatible processor (compatible with PC standard software), small screen (no larger than 10 inches), small keyboard, equipped with wireless connectivity, lightweight (under three

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? I can understand why people think WFBs with their off-brand, low-speced PCs and belligerent attitudes are just trailer trash. Are we here to discuss computers or call each other names?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I can't conceive of doing what he does with a 3.5 screen and an execrable, microscopic, touchscreen keyboard simulation. Even an illiterate WFB could have just looked at the pictures to see that the speculative Apple iPad did not have a 3.5 screen. Those LCDs that Apple has been stockpiling

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread b_s-wilk
What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook? You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? My son has one. He does

Re: [CGUYS] Can´t install IE7

2009-04-29 Thread Brian Jones
I've had problems with uninstalling IE7 before... ended up in a loop where neither version worked correctly. ... try these hints: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927177 - Brian - Original Message - From: Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com Subject: [CGUYS] Can´t install IE7 Now what?

Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?

2009-04-29 Thread Brian Jones
WordPerfect achieved 78% market saturation, but not because it was nearly bug free; it was because they chose to not implement copy protection. Business would buy it, and the employees would copy it and take it home. When the employee went to a new company, they would recommend it! The EULA

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Ellen Rains Harris
I don't understand: Are you in charge of deciding what a netbook is, or isn't? I bought a 12 inch netbook which weighs less than 3 lbs and has no optical drive, and it goes in my bag and is with me everywhere. And it has most of the apps that I need... open office, etc. And it does my day

Re: [CGUYS] What channel?

2009-04-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:48 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: Last night, one of the local TV stations informed viewers by way of scrolling text across the screen that in June, after the digital transition, their current digital channel will change. Their advice was to

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
I'm not being condescending. I'm annoyed that instead of using an accurate description of a product, marketing depts. too often redefine names of existing products to confuse people, either because of laziness on their part or deliberate obfuscation. This is another example of that.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Art Clemons
No. Manufacturers have redefined their too-big notebooks as netbooks to confuse consumers as to what real netbooks are. A real netbook is 5-8, not a 10-12 notebook. Those small non-netbook notebooks are not much more portable than any other notebook, just harder to type on. Redefined cheap

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
I can't conceive of doing what he does with a 3.5 screen and an execrable, microscopic, touchscreen keyboard simulation. Even an illiterate WFB could have just looked at the pictures to see that the speculative Apple iPad did not have a 3.5 screen. Those LCDs that Apple has been

Re: [CGUYS] Can´t install IE7

2009-04-29 Thread Marcio
Many thanks... but I don´t have an upgrade for XP home to Vista and I hate to start all over again... But yes, will use firefox. It worked with both banks. But still puzzled why I can´t install IE7. Marcio -Original Message- From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com Sent: Apr 29, 2009 12:58 PM To:

Re: [CGUYS] What channel?

2009-04-29 Thread Richard P.
I would imagine that they are trying to make sure that all are informed, so there's no false start again as with the last deadline. My relatives in Florida had to endure this for 2 months straight before the first February changeover date and tired of it quickly. Richard P. Expect to rescan

Re: [CGUYS] Can´t install IE7

2009-04-29 Thread Marcio
I am always scared of using RESTORE. Don´t ask me why... Marcio -Original Message- From: Richard P. richs...@gmail.com Sent: Apr 29, 2009 12:48 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Can=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B4t?= install IE7 Can you go back to the original IE version

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? I can understand why people think WFBs with their off-brand, low-speced PCs and belligerent attitudes are just trailer trash. Are we here to discuss computers or call each other names? I didn't

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Jordan
Chris Dunford wrote: You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good things and twist their usage into something undesirable. What the heck is wrong with being elite?

Re: [CGUYS] coming close to FCP

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Premiere dropped support for Macs for a couple years due to lack of demand, but it's currently available for both Mac and PC. My point was that it sucks that I can't try FCP without buying an entire computer dongle to run it. Apple's choice, not mine - yell at them. Do I detect some envy here?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good things and twist their usage into something undesirable. What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people like to be elite at something? wouldn't you like to know elite people or use elite products?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
You previously suggested that iPhone and iTouch were netbooks. They have 3.5 screens, do they not? Bla, bla, bla. Read the subject line. Look up will in the dictionary. You'll discover that it is future tense. Check on previously and you'll find that it refers to the past. You are off topic.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good things and twist their usage into something undesirable. What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people like to be elite at something? wouldn't you like to know elite people or use elite products? You mean

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
No one has tried to redefine, confuse, and obfuscate except Tom, and now, apparently, you. iPhone and iTouch are fine, but they are emphatically not netbooks, and neither is the mythical iPad if it looks anything like it did in the illustration. Chris is sure going to be pissed when the Apple

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
You are off topic. Any reference to the iPad as being a netbook is by definition off topic. It doesn't have a keyboard. It's described as a media pad. It's an iPod with HD video and a WiFi phone. It's clearly not intended for the same kinds of uses as a netbook. Furthermore, it's smaller than

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Any reference to the iPad as being a netbook is by definition off topic. It doesn't have a keyboard. It's described as a media pad. It's an iPod with HD video and a WiFi phone. It's clearly not intended for the same kinds of uses as a netbook. This reminds me of the arguments made in the '70s

Re: [CGUYS] Apple sued over some of its DMCA takedown practices

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
No telling where this will end up, but it is interesting that Apple is doing DMCA takedowns over discussions of how to use its products in an unapproved manner That's the whole DMCA forbidden speech thing that I keep pointing out. I wish it was not Apple who was playing the heavy, but that is

Re: [CGUYS] What to look for in digital converter box?

2009-04-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:56 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: Another thing to remember is that the power levels are expected to change after the switch over and the signals should get stronger. I don not know if the output power levels are expected to change, but moving

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Steve at Verizon
Spiro T. didn't attack the elite, but the effete; as in: He once described a group of opponents as an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals. (From the wiki on Spiro). Tom Piwowar wrote: Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I thought he was keying in on twisting their usage as has been done with Spiro's name. :-) Stewart At 10:30 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote: Spiro T. didn't attack the elite, but the effete; as in: He once described a group of opponents as an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize

[CGUYS] More pain

2009-04-29 Thread Marcio
More pain. Two things in my new computer. Besides making the mistake of installing Windows XP Home, now I notice two issues: Drive C: has a partition and the boot part has about 20 giga. The other side is named F: and has about 90. How to I make in without partition?... Just one plain drive?