Uncle Ben?
thestraightdope.com reports that there really was an Uncle Ben -- a rice
farmer from Houston.
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If you can't see that then you haven't got a sense of basic fairness, which
I got from the start.
I think you are exhibiting an RIAA-like exaggerated notion of ownership.
Are you going to sue Wikipedia if they post your *unauthorized*
biography? Will you demand that people seek a waiver before
Unless you can tell me some legitimate purpose for
registering and maybe using someone else's name without permission, there
are too many ways this could exploit or hurt the person (as someone said,
post things in the name of that person that would be embarrassing or worse).
Happens all the
Unless he is harmed, in which case he could expect remedy (if he pays
a lawyer to bring suit, fight the case and wins).
So if the other guy named Tom Piwowar does something that I think
reflects badly on our name can I sue him for damages?
On 10/12/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you can't see that then you haven't got a sense of basic fairness,
which
I got from the start.
I think you are exhibiting an RIAA-like exaggerated notion of ownership.
Are you going to sue Wikipedia if they post your *unauthorized*
] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Unless you can tell me some legitimate purpose for
registering and maybe using someone else's name without permission, there
are too many ways this could exploit or hurt the person (as someone said,
post things in the name of that person that would
PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Which one never existed? That one would probably have the strongest IP
rights.
Yep, and these all have in common the fact that they are not living or .
Could see making that distinction.
Happens all the time: George
Clearly, we could legislate that everyone at birth be given a UUID/GUID
(Universally Unique ID/Globally Unique ID) and prevent anyone but that
person from using that ID in a web site.
Simple, just apply an RFID implant shortly after birth.
What about the tompiwowarsucks.biz web site? We should
We have a winner!
On 10/12/07, Michael Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/12/07, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[OT quiz - what was the first registered domain name with a numeral as
the
first character in it? BTW, the RFC documenting it allowed it, but none
of
the
Are you going to sue Wikipedia if they post your *unauthorized*
biography?
Maybe. If it's not factual information from public records and isn't
incredibly complimentary and uplifting, ha ha.
Will you demand that people seek a waiver before uttering your
name in a public place?
Of course
Well, only a few days ago, I knew virtually nothing about this domain
registration business. Yet I rather quickly came to the tentative
conclusion that it doesn't make sense that people are allowed to register
other people's names...
So if it's illegal or clearly unethical, why is is allowed,
this could seek and receive permission, could they not?
Randall
- Original Message -
From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Well, only a few days
I read this and thought no way...can't be. Looks like.
Shortest way seems to be to set up a icon in the dock to activate the screen
saver and have that lock the computer.
Mike
On 10/11/07, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2 - I wanted people to lock their computers if they stepped away
Yeah, I saw that, but no native shortcut. Heck, there are no less than 2
ways of doing this on a PC without waiting for the screensaver to kick in.
Just illustrating that Windows does this simple, yet very valuable, thing
out of the box and on a Mac, it's E*N*T*E*R*T*A*I*N*M*E*N*T.
Why should this be legal, any more than identity theft is?
It's legal if the name in question isn't trademarked, as Tom said.
If the USE of the name harms or injures the famous person then
it's on the injured party to seek remedy. Typically I believe that
intent would need to be proved.
A
Why don't you contact her publisher? Publishers usually handle much of
the PR for their authors and handle requests like yours. They also set
up web pages to publicize and sell their books. Writers who are also in
practice and teaching don't usually do, or even have, their own web sites.
Take
much?
Randall
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From: Eric S. Sande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
Okay, here's an admittedly strange question: Is it always inherently
some other referrals
from her at some point.
Randall
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From: Constance Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons? liability and
consequences
Okay, here's an admittedly strange question: Is it always inherently
wrong, improper or maybe even illegal to register someone else's name as a
domain
name, particularly if they are a prominent person?
Without their explicit permission yes, in my opinion (obviously).
Fourth Amendment of the
Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
Evidently.
If you have concerns you can state them in a respectful manner and
help him work out the right thing to do.
I don't condone identity theft. And I won't facilitate it.
The web is full of well done, unofficial fan sites.
I just hope she doesn't mind too much when I tell her I've
registered her name and offer to give it to her.
And that is the right thing to do.
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At 10:07 AM 10/8/2007, you wrote:
On 10/7/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also sort of assumed that .org meant a real nonprofit. Otherwise,
various
unscrupulous outfits and organizations might simply pose as being
non-profits. Could have the equivalent of, say, Microsoft.org
, 2007 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
On 10/7/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also sort of assumed that .org meant a real nonprofit. Otherwise,
various
unscrupulous outfits and organizations might simply pose as being
non-profits. Could have
Tom, OTOH, I picture as Yosemite Sam, stomping on his hat, when someone is
productive using a PC.
I spend a lot of my time making PC users as productive as possible and
less of a burden on their Mac-using brethren.
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Tom Piwowar wrote:
I guess this is why even Oprah herself has a
site and magazine, etc., to complement her show.
Oprah has them to make a lot of money. While Oprah does accomplish much
that is good I expect that you could be mighty disillusioned to find out
that she is a
names of well-known persons?
I guess this is why even Oprah herself has a
site and magazine, etc., to complement her show.
Oprah has them to make a lot of money. While Oprah does accomplish much
that is good I expect that you could be mighty disillusioned to find out
that she is a very good
] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Tom Piwowar wrote:
I guess this is why even Oprah herself has a
site and magazine, etc., to complement her show.
Oprah has them to make a lot of money. While Oprah does accomplish much
that is good I expect that you could be mighty
Well, ended up buying the .com domain for this person's name.
Why would you do that? People have a right to their own
identity. If you're fucking with people, especially famous people,
you have to accept that there are likely to be consequences.
I didn't like the smell of you from the start,
Do you or anyone else who might know think it matters that
much at this point between .net and .com? I settled for a second choice
name (probably too long as well) in order to get .com. Unnecessary move?
In the early days of the 'net com was viewed with disdain. Today the
com are riding
This person I'm talking about is one of those amazing
people who has so much to offer so many people, which is why I am so
glad
Oprah had her on twice in the space of weeks. She is a renowned
psychologist and writer and when I heard she didn't have a website, it
occurred that a website
Why would you do that? People have a right to their own
identity. If you're fucking with people, especially famous people,
you have to accept that there are likely to be consequences.
Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Randy is being
careful and asking the right
Well, ended up buying the .com domain for this person's name. Maybe I'll
just hold it for awhile and just see if she wants the name. If I do this or
go beyond this and start creating a website around the themes associated
with her name, just hope she sees this as neutral or positive rather
I bet if she wanted to do this, she would have by now. Why do you think she
needs your help? 30 million people watching Oprah isn't enough exposure for
you? She's inundated with calls. I think everyone else interested is on
to it.
Typical Windows-style nails that stick out get hammered down
; simply to get basic contact info. for her and one
or two others who work there).
Randall
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From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons
] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
I bet if she wanted to do this, she would have by now. Why do you think
she
needs your help? 30 million people watching Oprah isn't enough exposure
for
you? She's inundated with calls. I think everyone else interested is on
to it.
Typical Windows
Ye-e-e-es, Thomas, hence if *she* wanted it by now, *she* would have done
it.
Yes Jeff, we know where you are coming from: If my users wanted decent
computers they would have slaughtered me years ago -- so they must be
happy with Windows.
On 10/7/07, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ye-e-e-es, Thomas, hence if *she* wanted it by now, *she* would have done
it. Maybe she's doing it as we speak, so it can be done right. I don't
think I'd want someone I didn't know doing that on my behalf, without my
permission.
Poor
Whatever. Randy can and will do whatever he likes.
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Poor Jeffrey. So used to having people obey senseless rules that he
can no
longer come up with reasonable justifications.
I can see the people in your organization. Another crazy rule from
IT. Oh
well, I
I'm constantly amazed and pleased at the kindness and generosity of
strangers here, and around the world. Jeff, you miss so much by assuming
the worst when most likely the outcome will be neutral or positive.
Randy, there's a fine line between being a fanboy and being a stalker.
You seem to
and especially inspire and empower them. This is what the 2 recent
appearances of this psychologist were about.
Randall
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From: b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names
Okay, here's an admittedly strange question: Is it always inherently wrong,
improper or maybe even illegal to register someone else's name as a domain
name, particularly if they are a prominent person?
By chance, discovered that a rather hot and prominent person (whose been on
Oprah twice
What you are talking about used to be a common practice before the
net world and made some people some money.
Now the courts favor the individual or corporation whose name it is.
It is called cyber squatting. It is not illegal, per se, but I would
let the person know and possibly help them
By chance, discovered that a rather hot and prominent person (whose been
on Oprah twice fairly recently) actually does not have a website, at least
not one that shows up on GoDaddy, using the name and .com or .net.
There is a good chance that a cybersquatter has grabbed it as a
consequence of
- Original Message -
From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
There is a good chance that a cybersquatter has grabbed it as a
consequence of your
At 09:21 PM 10/6/2007, you wrote:
BTW, would this sort of situation ideally call for a .com, or would
it matter much? Is there really much difference between .com, .net,
.org or maybe some of the others?
There used to be a lot of difference but they have relaxed the rules ALOT!
.com was
(probably too long as well) in order to get .com. Unnecessary move?
Randall
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From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 9:34 PM
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To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Grabbing domain names of well-known persons?
At 09:21 PM 10/6/2007, you wrote:
BTW, would this sort of situation ideally call for a .com, or would it
matter much? Is there really much difference
Do you or anyone else who might know think it matters that
much at this point between .net and .com?
If you're selling something it should be .com. If you're providing
information it should be .net. If you're a non-profit it should be
.org. If you are a government it shold be .gov, etc.
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