I don't know any compelling technical reason
why a OS9 not UI could be implemented on top of BSD
(even on top of *nix, X-Windows based technology).
There are multiple problems. Grafting a GUI on top of a CLI is a stupid
thing to do (as proved long ago by early versions of Windows). GUI logic
does have
two buttons)
-Paul Meyer
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From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1
figured out that my apple mouse actually does have
two buttons)
-Paul Meyer
Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org
--- On Tue, 7/1/08, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L
Ballmer was only selected to continue the ruthless business tradition (a
la' Knife the baby.); not because he has any particular technical
leadership skills.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
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My point was that certain people would sooner sleep on bed of hot coals
than
Ballmer was only selected to continue the ruthless business tradition
(a la' Knife the baby.); not because he has any particular technical
leadership skills.
Nor did Lee Iacocca have any particular automobile engineering skills.
Ballmer is the CEO, not the chief software architect--that's Ray
Okay, and Gates was CEO. Gates was heralded as a techno-genius by the
media. Ballmer directs MS just as Gates did, and I was replying to
Tom's message and its reference to Gates. He mentioned Ballmer in
relation to NT...
If I was chief architect responsible for Vista, I would try to keep a
It is off topic, but I think that you are incorrect - Mr. Iacocca
graduated from Lehigh U. as an engineer and began his career with Ford
as an engineer. While he spent much of his time at Ford in sales and
marketing, he had a much better grounding in automotive engineering than
most of his
It is off topic, but I think that you are incorrect - Mr. Iacocca
graduated from Lehigh U. as an engineer and began his career with Ford
as an engineer. While he spent much of his time at Ford in sales and
marketing, he had a much better grounding in automotive engineering
than most of his
Ballmer directs MS just as Gates did, and I was replying to Tom's message
and its reference to Gates.
I understand. I was just trying to make the point (not particularly well, I
guess) that the organization has changed over time, and that Ballmer's role
in the company isn't the same as Gates's
This is going to be tough for the WFBs to swallow...
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141821.asp
Long email from B. Gates (Yes, that B. Gates). Boils down to: I am quite
disappointed at how Windows Usability has been going backwards and the
program management groups don't
Wisconsin Farm Bureau?
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is going to be tough for the WFBs to swallow...
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From Bill himself:
During his farewell event at Microsoft this morning, Gates referred to this,
and poked a little fun at us: One of the newspapers had some e-mail that I
sent about how maybe Windows could have been better at something, and they
said, 'This is a shocking e-mail. Shocking!' And I
Wisconsin Farm Bureau?
Windows Fan Bois
I was thinking WFB might not give them as much heart burn.
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During his farewell event at Microsoft this morning, Gates referred to this,
and poked a little fun at us: One of the newspapers had some e-mail that I
sent about how maybe Windows could have been better at something, and they
said, 'This is a shocking e-mail. Shocking!' And I said, 'What do you
What a laugh. How quickly they forget!
Bill Gates DID bail out/buy Apple in the 90's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but
doesn't he still own like 49% of the stock - more than anyone else?
Like vultures picking at a dead horse, I guess you intend to rant about Bill
Gates forever? It's almost worse
BSD UNIX is widely recognized as one of the most stable, secure,
robust OS's out there.
I am sorry if you can't find a GUI built on top of CP/M.
Matthew
On Jul 1, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
OS X sucks because it is based on BSD
Unix, which sucks.
Okay. He doesn't completely agree with me. He knows Windows sucks, but
mistakenly thinks he can apply band aids to make it better.
Guess you haven't been keeping up to date on Singularity/Midori.
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Or he knows that after MS announced this developers went apesh*t and MS
backed off and said it was just a concept.
Mike
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Okay. He doesn't completely agree with me. He knows Windows sucks, but
mistakenly thinks he can
What is wrong with the UI apple built around it?
Mike
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BSD UNIX is widely recognized as one of the most stable, secure,
robust OS's out there.
With a user interface that is over 30 years old.
I got my info from a podcast where Paul Thurrott was discussing the concept
OS and the reaction of developers who feared MS was going to make it more
then just concept.
Mike
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Or he knows that after MS announced this
My understanding was that it was an Apple patent infringement by the
Win95 GUI. And MS sweetened Apple's willingness to negotiate a
compromise by threatening to discontinue MS Office for Mac.
db
David K Watson wrote:
You are so wrong. First, it was Microsoft and not Gates who
purchased the
My point was that certain people would sooner sleep on bed of hot coals than
acknowledge that MS is quite well aware of Windows's shortcomings AND might
be trying to do something about it. He says that [Gates] knows Windows
sucks, but mistakenly thinks he can apply band aids to make it better. The
Tom, I don't think you are entirely correct here. The
iPod has three distinct UI's on the hardware side (classic,
shuffle and touch) and all are doing well. The other side
of the UI, iTunes, has evolved considerably as well.
Their common feature throughout all their iterations is that
Apple
I have my gripes with OS X (I miss Location Manager, for
example), but it doesn't suck, IMO.
Next time you have lots of time on your hands just Google FTFF and read
on.
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