Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-06 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:48 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future??? That's what I was thinking, limitations like these aren't around anymore. Mike On Jan 4

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Michel Lowe
and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:48 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future??? That's what I was thinking, limitations like these aren't around anymore. Mike On Jan 4, 2008 9

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Steve Rigby And the sales of rotators will soar. Many neighborhoods have prohibitions on outside antennas used for terrestrial broadcasting. Without outside antennas, lots of viewers snip Most of those restrictions are no longer enforceable for most cases, see Telecommunications Act of

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Jay Montero
I think I heard a while back that eventually HDTV will be broadcast over the current VHF channels when there is no longer a need to use them for the analog programming. on Fri, 4 Jan 2008, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: This is the FCC's take on the rules. http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html They

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Jay Montero wrote: Build your own TIVO; That's what I did using MythDora. It's a Linux distro which runs MythTV. I get all my favorite OTA HDTV shows recorded and it looks amazing! OTOH... maybe this is not the thing for a Mac guy - the kind who likes to just fire

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Tony B
You mean there's a wired satellite provider? Wow! Actually, I too wondered about this FCC reg when it came out. Now, after a few years, I think we can clearly see the FCC has lost and the HOA's have won. Remember, this isn't a law, it's just an FCC directive. As with you, I could be

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jan 4, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Jay Montero wrote: I think I heard a while back that eventually HDTV will be broadcast over the current VHF channels when there is no longer a need to use them for the analog programming. These VHF frequencies of OURS are going to be sold to corporate entities.

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jan 4, 2008, at 12:30 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: This is the FCC's take on the rules. http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html They have to allow you some antenna unless they don't. There are small stealthy antennas that work in the UHF range where the HD/Digital signals are. Good and

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Mike Drabick
I am curios to. I have a couple old Dell Inspiron Laptops with the large 15.4 screens I would love to turn into tivo boxes. Mike Vicky Staubly wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Jay Montero wrote: Build your own TIVO; That's what I did using MythDora. It's a Linux distro which runs MythTV. I get

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Constance Warner
Does anyone know if manufacturers are doing anything to solve the synch problem in the next generations of TV's? Or is this a bug that's inherent in the system, and for which there is no practical bugfix? We have an analog TV that's on its last legs, and we're planning to replace it with

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Steve Rigby On Jan 4, 2008, at 12:30 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: This is the FCC's take on the rules. http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html They have to allow you some antenna unless they don't. There are small stealthy antennas that work in the UHF range where the HD/Digital signals

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Steve Rigby On Jan 4, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Jay Montero wrote: I think I heard a while back that eventually HDTV will be broadcast over the current VHF channels when there is no longer a need to use them for the analog programming. These VHF frequencies of OURS are going to be sold to

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-04 Thread b_s-wilk
Eric - Want an antenna on the roof? Move to Tehran, http://www.iranian.com/Arts/2003/September/People/index.html, or tell the Super that he/she has to allow you to put one up. Better yet, find a friendly neighbor with a window that faces toward Houston and buy a dish with dual LNBs,

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-03 Thread Constance Warner
For that matter, digital signals in general are problematic if you're getting your TV over the air, without a cable or satellite hookup. The signals are more directional, so you have to have the antenna pointed EXACTLY the right way for each channel, or you're out of luck. The signals are also

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-03 Thread Richard P.
It gets worse than that. I live only 12-15 miles from the transmitters and get a great signal (95% +), ... until the occasional reflection wipes out the signal temporarily. Out of the 20 DTV channels available, I can only get 4 on a dependable basis. In order to get the others, I will need to

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-03 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jan 3, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Richard P. wrote: It gets worse than that. I live only 12-15 miles from the transmitters and get a great signal (95% +), ... until the occasional reflection wipes out the signal temporarily. Out of the 20 DTV channels available, I can only get 4 on a dependable

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-03 Thread Eric S. Sande
And the sales of rotators will soar. Don't know about that one. Would I actually invest in a steerable antenna array when I all ready have cable? Probably not, but if I were far from an ATSC signal I might. If I had to. As it is I can't get ANY over the air transmissions with any

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Jeff Miles
And another question, aren't all TVs today digital, that is if I was to go out and buy a new one at K-Mart or where ever? To buy an analog TV wouldn't you have to buy an old used one? Jeff M On Jan 2, 2008, at 2:20 PM, Constance Warner wrote: Does anyone know if manufacturers are doing

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
No many of them are digital ready but may not include a digital tuner. I can't remember the date that Manufacturers have to convert to all digital. Stewart At 04:38 PM 1/2/2008, you wrote: And another question, aren't all TVs today digital, that is if I was to go out and buy a new

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
We have an analog TV that's on its last legs, and we're planning to replace it with digital. Is there any point in waiting until the technology gets better? The problem is more in the data path than in the receiver. Go ahead and shop!

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
And another question, aren't all TVs today digital, that is if I was to go out and buy a new one at K-Mart or where ever? To buy an analog TV wouldn't you have to buy an old used one? I bet they are still selling analog units and will continue to do so as long as there are stupid customers.

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Robert
You might be right, that manufacturers have a date to stop manufacturing analog TVs, but I thought that the end date referred to the broadcasting of commercial analog TV. That date is on February 17, 2009. The manufacturers would not make many analog TVs after that date even if there is no

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Jeff Miles
So how do you tell if you have a digital ready TV? I have quite a few TVs (7) one of which is also on it's last legs. It is 15-20 years old and assume it's not digital. My newest is a Sylvania 27 stereo with VCR and DVD recorder. I assume it is digital, but nothing in the paper work told

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Robert
This question is answered at http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html#faq8 It says therein: *How do I know if I already have a digital TV (DTV)?* Many DTVs and digital television equipment will have labels or markings on them, or statements in the informational materials that came with them,

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Gayley Knight
Dates for analog phones, onstar and the like (even some automatic garaqe doors) is February 18/19, 2008 and for broadcasting is February 19, 2009. After 2/2009, one will need a box to run an analog TV. This was part of the coupon discussion earlier. Fox5 (DC) now has a link on their site to

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Jeff Miles
Thanks, now I have another question. With my 7 TVs they are all hooked up to DirectTV, all with the DirectTV box. Do these boxes convert or use the digital signal, thus I wouldn't need the digital converter box needed for analog TVs? Jeff M On Jan 2, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Robert wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Correct all system boxes cable and Direct/dish convert the signal so it works with any TV. Stewart At 07:10 PM 1/2/2008, you wrote: Thanks, now I have another question. With my 7 TVs they are all hooked up to DirectTV, all with the DirectTV box. Do these boxes convert or use the

Re: [CGUYS] Just a silly observation: future???

2008-01-02 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: There are still (Or should I say there were still) a number of folks out there that had old analog cell phones that every Cell carrier has been trying to get to upgrade their phone. It is my understanding that in some parts of the