Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]

2010-03-03 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I know the name of the channel is Fox News, but there are two distinct components. Commentary and news. Commentary includes the very conservative Hannity, the populist O'Reilly, the libertarian Beck, and the

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread tjpa
On Mar 2, 2010, at 9:01 PM, mike wrote: Shouldn't it be web usage share? Short of hiring the Census, this is probably the most accurate way to get a count. Since Mac hardware outlasts PC hardware by at least a factor of two, hardware sales numbers count a lot of churn as people

Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-03-03 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Ranbo ran...@gmail.com: *In other words, this virus, trojan or whatever it is could still be lurking and hiding from AVG's ability to detect it? I also ran a full scan of Well, I'm no expert (I don't even play one on TV), but no one on the list called me an idiot (at least. . .not

Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]

2010-03-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net wrote: Could you please be specific in what is wrong with the analysis in this article. I do not know if the figures and comparisons in the article are accurate or not. That is because, if for no other reason, the term

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread betty
You Windoz weenies still don't get it, do you. Mac users need to use multiple browsers that can mask the OS, because there are still millions of web sites, many of them commercial that block Macs or distort their experience. This isn't some clueless individual who's still using FrontPage

Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]

2010-03-03 Thread tjpa
On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: I know the name of the channel is Fox News, but there are two distinct components. Commentary and news. Commentary includes the very conservative Hannity, the populist O'Reilly, the libertarian Beck, and the running-for-president

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:27 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Short of hiring the Census, this is probably the most accurate way to get a count. Since Mac hardware outlasts PC hardware by at least a factor of two, hardware sales numbers count a lot of churn as people constantly replace their

Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-03-03 Thread tjpa
On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Reid Katan wrote: I'm just sayin', if it was me, just for the peace of mind, I'd go ahead and do the nasty. You gotta weigh the peace-of-mind vs. time- and-effort equation. There is a utility for copying off your drivers. I find that all too often rebuilding

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread Stewart Marshall
Not just you Mac users. I find that often when we are trying to do something with Governmental web sites. If we do not use IE or Opera it will not work right. Firefox just cant do what they want it to do, or it is coded to sue imbeded IE commands. Stewart At 09:05 AM 3/3/2010, you

Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-03-03 Thread tjpa
On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Ranbo wrote: *In other words, this virus, trojan or whatever it is could still be lurking and hiding from AVG's ability to detect it? I also ran a full scan of Windows Defender which didn't That is why I pointed you to a Linux boot disk. Otherwise you can't

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread Stewart Marshall
As I stated earlier Non Profits tend to be the last ones to upgrade machines. Also schools are notoriously behind. I can go into the local school and still find some Windows 98/ME users. I worked on one of my members machines a few weeks ago and it is still a Windows ME machine. PC

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread Stephen Brownfield
I agree with Betty, but want to add a browser to her list of browsers masking ID - OmniWeb. Steve betty wrote: You Windoz weenies still don't get it, do you. Mac users need to use multiple browsers that can mask the OS, because there are still millions of web sites, many of them

Re: [CGUYS] Roger Ebert's Voice

2010-03-03 Thread TracyF2
Did anyone ever read a story (sci-fi I prefer the term speculative fiction) Songs from a Broken Instrument by Stephen Burns? Tracy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread tjpa
On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:42 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: However, since most of these comparisons of alleged market share are exactly that, market share, then sales are all that matter. That is disingenuous. We are talking about computers in use. Your method would be like stating the US

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread mike
No, we are talking about computers that access the interner, not ones in use. I have three running at my house, one doesn't get online at all. On Mar 3, 2010 9:57 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:42 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: However, since most of these comparisons...

Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-03-03 Thread Stewart Marshall
Yup defender is almost useless. Any Anti Virus may not get to Malware and other things that have hidden themselves deep within the OS. Avast used to have a feature that said Do you Want to Do a Scan on Boot Up This is the only way tog et rid of deep down infections such as Tom said by

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread tjpa
On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:05 AM, betty wrote: Mac users need to use multiple browsers that can mask the OS, because there are still millions of web sites, many of them commercial that block Macs or distort their experience. Good point. So they will be undercounting. Thus Mac share is more like

Re: [CGUYS] Songs from a Broken Instrument Was: Roger Ebert's Voice

2010-03-03 Thread John Settle
On 3/3/2010 11:35 AM, trac...@aol.com wrote: Did anyone ever read a story (sci-fi I prefer the term speculative fiction) Songs from a Broken Instrument by Stephen Burns? Tracy Haven't read it, but thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'll track it down and read it. Check out

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread Stewart Marshall
Slow down. There is a lot of old Windows machines still in use. In our house we have about 6 computers in use. Just not at the same time. I have three, my wife has one, and my youngest has two. But that does not include a couple of other machines I have upstairs that still run, just in

Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-03-03 Thread Ranbo
*I hate to sound so obtuse, but are you suggesting that this infection is not being detected by AVG or Windows Defender? Randall * On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:57 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Ranbo wrote: *In other words, this virus, trojan or whatever it is could

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:41 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:42 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: However, since most of these comparisons of alleged market share are exactly that, market share, then sales are all that matter. That is disingenuous. We are talking about

Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-03-03 Thread Ranbo
*I can't get it to download from the link you give here. Went to BitDefender.com They want $30 for 2010 version. Is that the one you are suggesting or is there a free version? Thanks Randall * On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:18 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Ranbo

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread katan
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:15:07 -0500, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:41 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: That is disingenuous. We are talking about computers in use. Your method would be like stating the US population by just counting births instead of looking at how many

[CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on?

2010-03-03 Thread John Settle
Hi, What is the name of that Firefox add-on that enables one to change how the browser identifies itself? Clear skies, John J Settle * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-03-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Email me off list I did download it. Stewart At 11:30 AM 3/3/2010, you wrote: *I can't get it to download from the link you give here. Went to BitDefender.com They want $30 for 2010 version. Is that the one you are suggesting or is there a free version? Thanks Randall * On Thu, Feb 25,

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:48 PM, katan ka...@his.com wrote: And would therefore be mistitled, because the (original) content has to do with Internet use stats--what percentage of computers on the Internet (in the cited survey) are Macs. You are correct. I did not provide the title for the

Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-03-03 Thread mike
Yes. On Mar 3, 2010 12:20 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: *I hate to sound so obtuse, but are you suggesting that this infection is not being detected by AVG or Windows Defender? Randall * On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:57 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 3, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Ranbo wr...

Re: [CGUYS] Help - computer seems infected, going crazy!

2010-03-03 Thread tjpa
On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Ranbo wrote: *I can't get it to download from the link you give here. Went to BitDefender.com They want $30 for 2010 version. Is that the one you are suggesting or is there a free version? Not $30, this is free. The article is a bit dated, but gives a good

Re: [CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on?

2010-03-03 Thread chad evans wyatt
Ditto, Betty -  Went to the Mozilla page, no mention of masking. --- On Wed, 3/3/10, John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com wrote: From: John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com Subject: [CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010,

Re: [CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on?

2010-03-03 Thread John Emmerling
I don't think it's an add-on, you just change the useragent preference in the browser. You can google for additional details. Hope that helps! On 3/3/10, John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, What is the name of that Firefox add-on that enables one to change how the browser

Re: [CGUYS] Mac Market Share At 11%

2010-03-03 Thread MrMike6by9
I guess I can't see the meaningfulness of this stat. I regularly use 3 computers; a OSX 10.6 MBP and 1 each XP Pro and Vista machine. I use my MBP mostly for web activities like reading and posting in forums as well as surfing while in the living room or on trips. The Windows boxes have 2 browsers

Re: [CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on?

2010-03-03 Thread John Settle
On 3/3/2010 4:16 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: Ditto, Betty - Went to the Mozilla page, no mention of masking. Hi Chad, Found it! Here's a link to User Agent Switcher Add-on https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 --

Re: [CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on?

2010-03-03 Thread chad evans wyatt
.. et sous le pont d'Avignon, l'on y danse.. Many thanks, John! --- On Wed, 3/3/10, John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com wrote: From: John Settle john_j_set...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] What's the name of that Firefox Ad-on? To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010,

Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]

2010-03-03 Thread Jeff Miles
Sorry, a bit late on this. Had a bit of life going on there. Anyway, as I'm sure you'll know, figures are all over the map on this depending on who you listen to. But them best averages I've heard are about 1%. So how does that justify the percentages of price increases over the