Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)
I think that it was settled decades ago: no substantiated risk. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rlsimon Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:36 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] US

[CGUYS] cwrsync vista problem

2008-07-01 Thread Andy Gallant
I'm having trouble using cwRsync (from itefix) on Vista to keep local copies of some remote directories. The files are out there, but I can't write them to my local drives. The same commands used to work on XP. I've Googled, checked itefix, and tried a few things, but so far I've failed.

Re: [CGUYS] video compression

2008-07-01 Thread Scott McClure
I currently have Cox internet and analog cable TV service (basic and expanded lineup) and when I purchased a digital TV at the beginning of the year and installed it, I was able to watch the HD version of the local broadcast stations as well as the regular signal fed through with the analog

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Here they lure you in with cheap/free phones and stick you with the service contract. Over in many other countries you pay mucho bucks up front for the phone then shop for your plan I guess that is why it is so desirable to have poor schools. If people could do some rudimentary math they

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
They do not have a multitude of carriers, and usually have a government monopoly, or one that is heavily subsidized by the government. Interesting logic. First we promote the nutty right-wing mantra that government is bad. Then we let the nutty process run for a couple of decades and discover

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Chris Dunford
But here we are wiser. Taking cues from Microsoft, US businesses have learned the benefits of incompatibility. The best way to retain clients is to make them fearful of using any system but yours. Well played! Nice job of working a gratuitous potshot at MS into a conversation that has no

Re: [CGUYS] video compression

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
I told him that I could also just put in an antenna and a switch and get the channels OTA. Getting a digital TV tripled the OTA programming I was getting. Any thoughts about paying for cable quickly vanished. However I did notice a seasonal variation in reception. My reception is considerably

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Well played! Nice job of working a gratuitous potshot at MS into a conversation that has no relation whatsoever to anything that MS does. Not my fault if you are not paying attention. The strategy of incompatibility was not invented by the telcos.

[CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
This is going to be tough for the WFBs to swallow... http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141821.asp Long email from B. Gates (Yes, that B. Gates). Boils down to: I am quite disappointed at how Windows Usability has been going backwards and the program management groups don't

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Given M$'s history they probably got the strategy from someone else as well. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well played! Nice job of working a gratuitous potshot at MS into a conversation that has no relation whatsoever to anything that MS does. Not my

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Who is attacking their system? It is not always a bad idea for a monopoly. I am not a right wing nut either. Ever hear of socialized medicine? Government monopolies also yield some pretty good airlines. Ever heard of Lufthansa. Stewart At 08:59 AM 7/1/2008, you wrote: They do not have

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Ever hear of socialized medicine? Most of my relatives live in Europe. Some are doctors. They are very, very happy with their socialized medicine. Health care is their #1 reason for not wanting to live in the US. They are amazed how easily Americans are brainwashed by greedy insurance

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread rlsimon
Interestingly, in Belgium if I use up the PayGo card to zero, people can still call me inasmuch as the caller pays and the recipient does not!! Here in the USA they sell AIR twice; they've got us commin'goin' !! If the caller is on the same company as I had (Proximus), then nobody pays on

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Janaki Kuruppu
Ever hear of socialized medicine? Most of my relatives live in Europe. Some are doctors. They are very, very happy with their socialized medicine. Health care is their #1 reason for not wanting to live in the US. They are amazed how easily Americans are brainwashed by greedy insurance

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Larry Sacks
Oh yeah eh. The Canadian Health Care System is a model of efficiency too. A friend's doctor ordered a MRI for a concern about a possible heart ailment. The appointment was made with super efficiency for 6 months later. The 6 months goes by, they go to the appointment, only to find the tech

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Not just Europe, but also Canada. My in-laws are retired and have free health care and prescription coverage. Could not understand why my daughter had a quite wedding to secure health care coverage and then plan a big wedding later. My first child was born in Canada and had sever congenital

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
WHOA Do you know anything about the Canadian health care system besides that??? The problem is that the hospitals are not funded enough. The problem is rationing which heaven forbid we do not want. If it is critical and an emergency they will treat. Otherwise you need to wait in line.

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread mike
Wisconsin Farm Bureau? On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is going to be tough for the WFBs to swallow... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Chris Dunford
The super-duper efficient eh Canadian Health Care system saved themselves the cost of a MRI. He died 3 months later. Amazingly enough, from a heart attack. Yep...that's just what we need. Good ol' soh-she-ah-lized medicine. Yes, our system is way better.

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread mike
From Bill himself: During his farewell event at Microsoft this morning, Gates referred to this, and poked a little fun at us: One of the newspapers had some e-mail that I sent about how maybe Windows could have been better at something, and they said, 'This is a shocking e-mail. Shocking!' And I

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Larry Sacks
As a matter of fact, yes. I am pretty well versed in the pluses and minuses of the much heralded Canadian Health Care System. I wasn't questioning the lack of doctors or the skills of said doctors. I understand there are funding and rationing issues. But the age-old question is who

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Oh yeah eh. The Canadian Health Care System is a model of efficiency too. A friend's doctor ordered a MRI for a concern about a possible Certainly tragic, but what is the screw-up rate at US hospitals? Would it have been better to not provide MRI in the region because it was too sparsely

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Larry Sacks
Oh. Wow. I see your point. Our system just sucks so badly that we should abandon it. While I feel sorry for this woman and her family for their loss, I'm sure we can find lots of examples of how any system sucks. So because of this, you don't really expect me to say, I will warmly embrace

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Wisconsin Farm Bureau? Windows Fan Bois I was thinking WFB might not give them as much heart burn. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Larry Sacks
Ronald Regan trick? Geez.. you had to dig deep for that one didn't you. This is just one incident I know all too well, but there are lots of others too. But I'm not about to take your bait - as feeble as it is - and go into this with you. I think I'll take the high road here and just

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
During his farewell event at Microsoft this morning, Gates referred to this, and poked a little fun at us: One of the newspapers had some e-mail that I sent about how maybe Windows could have been better at something, and they said, 'This is a shocking e-mail. Shocking!' And I said, 'What do you

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
I am a doctor, in the US, and I just spent more than an hour of my morning on the phone with three different insurance companies to get a required medication for one of my patients.. But we do not call it rationing. What is the job title for an MBA who makes life and death medical decisions

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Interestingly, in Belgium if I use up the PayGo card to zero, people can still call me inasmuch as the caller pays and the recipient does not!! Here in the USA they sell AIR twice; they've got us commin'goin' !! If the caller is on the same company as I had (Proximus), then nobody pays on

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread Tony B
What a laugh. How quickly they forget! Bill Gates DID bail out/buy Apple in the 90's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't he still own like 49% of the stock - more than anyone else? Like vultures picking at a dead horse, I guess you intend to rant about Bill Gates forever? It's almost worse

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Chris Dunford
Oh. Wow. I see your point. Our system just sucks so badly that we should abandon it. Not my point at all. My point was that neither healthcare system is without serious flaws. If I have the money, then the US system can't be beat (let's admit it, if this woman had had enough money, she'd

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread Matthew Taylor
BSD UNIX is widely recognized as one of the most stable, secure, robust OS's out there. I am sorry if you can't find a GUI built on top of CP/M. Matthew On Jul 1, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: OS X sucks because it is based on BSD Unix, which sucks.

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Chris Dunford
You know, if you watch the ER video you will see someone walk by and ignore the woman lying on the floor. It's a little fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure it was Gates. I think I'll take the high road here and just blame MS for it. Obviously all the ills of the world are the fault of MS.

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread mike
Until very recently the Feds counted everyone in a zip code as having broadband if ONE had broadband. I believe they also don't count anything 1.5 and lower as broadband now. This reason below is probably partly why I sit at 1.3mbit and will according to a Qwest rep, sit there forever. There is

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread chad evans wyatt
Thanks, Tom. I wander away for half a day, suddenly we're onto Canadian medicine. Everyone should understand that each country over there has several telcom companies, competing in the marketplace - hardly socialised. It's just that they agree to use the same standard - and multiband -

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread Chris Dunford
Okay. He doesn't completely agree with me. He knows Windows sucks, but mistakenly thinks he can apply band aids to make it better. Guess you haven't been keeping up to date on Singularity/Midori. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK here is how it works very often. I live in LA (Lower Alabama) on the east side. Last year they came through and repaved the main north south artery. One intersection was supposed to be fixed. It did not get done in conjunction with the paving job. Now this is a multi million dollar fix

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread mike
Or he knows that after MS announced this developers went apesh*t and MS backed off and said it was just a concept. Mike On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay. He doesn't completely agree with me. He knows Windows sucks, but mistakenly thinks he can

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread mike
What is wrong with the UI apple built around it? Mike On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BSD UNIX is widely recognized as one of the most stable, secure, robust OS's out there. With a user interface that is over 30 years old.

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
It is a highly dangerous intersection. The fix had been approved and funded and at the last minute they pulled the funding, why? So they could give it to another part of the state to lure a business into the area! Yeah this stuff happens all the time and the criteria stinks You mean

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Larry Sacks
Ah yes... Tom is the overseer of all that is good or bad... Sorry Charlie.. I mean Tom, if you didn't like my example. Next time I want to make a point, I'll be sure to site multiple areas of concern. I do think the discussion on health care is a little bit out of bounds, so I'll gladly drop

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Have and have nots? When did broadband become a fundamental right? You are coming from a strange place. Broadband is not a fundamental right, but it is fundamental to the operation of a modern technological society. With crappy broadband the US falls further and further behind. If we want to

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
No what it did was let us subsidize a project in Mobile while we got nothing. Mobile is a fast growing area and has way more industry than we do. Our tax base is very low. (Low industry) We constantly try and lure industry here, but because the politicians have not put the roads here we

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread mike
Interchangable parts doesn't mean interoperability. The guns you refer to were interchangeable only as far as the same model/manufacturer. When I ran mac os pre X, after a clean install I ususally made copies of my finder and system suitcase, I could then given strange problems later on, replace

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread mike
I got my info from a podcast where Paul Thurrott was discussing the concept OS and the reaction of developers who feared MS was going to make it more then just concept. Mike On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or he knows that after MS announced this

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread rlsimon
I agree, but the studies were for adults. I don't believe the safety of rf exposure to young children over time is settled science. Wouldn't you be loath to accept such exposure as a PZB member only to find out 20 years down the road those kids are sick from it ??

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread db
My understanding was that it was an Apple patent infringement by the Win95 GUI. And MS sweetened Apple's willingness to negotiate a compromise by threatening to discontinue MS Office for Mac. db David K Watson wrote: You are so wrong. First, it was Microsoft and not Gates who purchased the

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Jeff Wright
I agree, but the studies were for adults. I don't believe the safety of rf exposure to young children over time is settled science. Wouldn't you be loath to accept such exposure as a PZB member only to find out 20 years down the road those kids are sick from it ?? No, I would loathe to

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread mike
Don't you JOKE about odd socks! It's a serious matter. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the road those kids are sick from it ?? No, I would loathe to tremble in the corner in fear every time some crackpot gets a soapbox and announces that they

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Ah yes... Tom is the overseer of all that is good or bad... Ah yes, when you can't prevail on the merits switch to personal attacks. I certainly would. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Interchangable parts doesn't mean interoperability. The guns you refer to were interchangeable only as far as the same model/manufacturer. It was the first step. Before then each individual rifle was a unique item. Then the benefits of uniformity within a plant were discovered. Then uniformity

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
My point was that certain people would sooner sleep on bed of hot coals than acknowledge that MS is quite well aware of Windows's shortcomings AND might be trying to do something about it. He says that [Gates] knows Windows sucks, but mistakenly thinks he can apply band aids to make it better. The

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Chris Dunford
According to the physicists, they settled it without the need for any medical trials at all. The root cause of cancer is the disruption of molecular bonds, and radio waves aren't energetic enough to do that. I'm no physicist, but Bob Park (Voodoo Science) is, and that's what he says...

[CGUYS] Laptop Shutting Down

2008-07-01 Thread DC Cavalier
Ok, old wise ones. About a year or so ago I posted a problem about my now 4 year old HP 4300 series laptop, and the fact that it was taking up to 15 minutes from time I signed in before I was finally able to do anything and then on many occasions, it was as if something was running in the

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Shutting Down

2008-07-01 Thread Larry Sacks
Sounds like a thermal issue to me. I wish I had seen this message back then. I would have suggested that then and waved you off the reformat of the hard drive. On a laptop - I used to use a 4300 back when I was at Netscape - look at the vents on the sides and back (and bottom?) of the case

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread David K Watson
Tom, I don't think you are entirely correct here. The iPod has three distinct UI's on the hardware side (classic, shuffle and touch) and all are doing well. The other side of the UI, iTunes, has evolved considerably as well. Their common feature throughout all their iterations is that Apple

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Shutting Down

2008-07-01 Thread Jeff Wright
Another possibility is that the CPU heat spreader has come loose. Not very likely, but CPU overheating is the quickest way to initiate a shutdown on many computers, after throttling the CPU down, which could explain the poor performance. BTW, I once had to completely disassemble an older HP

[CGUYS] Amazon's S3 service and Jungle disk or Google docs

2008-07-01 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Does anyone know anything about the security of Amazon's S3 service - how secure is it? If you lose the password, are you up a creek? Similar question about other on-line services. I don't actually think Google docs has any security - they want to scan your documents to offer you ads, etc. I'm

Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-01 Thread Janaki Kuruppu
which costs money, and raises the total cost of healthcare in the U.S. On Jul 1, 2008, at 5:00 PM, rlsimon wrote: That's why most medical offices have an employee to do all that! -Original Message- From: Janaki Kuruppu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:04 PM

Re: [CGUYS] Amazon's S3 service and Jungle disk or Google docs

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Does anyone know anything about the security of Amazon's S3 service - how secure is it? If you lose the password, are you up a creek? Amazon is trying to sell S3 and its processors as a computing platform. If they had poor security it would scuttle the entire business. So I would expect Amazon

Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have my gripes with OS X (I miss Location Manager, for example), but it doesn't suck, IMO. Next time you have lots of time on your hands just Google FTFF and read on. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,