Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Michael Abrams
At 08:54 AM 8/1/2008, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bluenoses are merely looking for some way to justify hating you... I is not at all limited to sexually explicit material. I agree completely with you, which uses up my Agreement With Tom quota for the decade, but I only

[CGUYS] Need ?mail server?

2008-08-02 Thread Paul Meyer
I would like to have something that could handle custom forwarding requests. I want it to run on my desktop and read the mail in my existing account(s) and then redirect certain messages on the basis of an embedded tag. I don't want to setup a mail server per se, I want to use existing

Re: [CGUYS] GraphJam on Zune [Was: Puritans at the helm...]

2008-08-02 Thread John Emmerling
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Nevertheless I want youall to know that I am a moderate. For example I did not post Time Spent Using Zune http://graphjam.wordpress.com/files/2008/07/15.png Now, this just pisses me off. However, studies have

Re: [CGUYS] Need ?mail server?

2008-08-02 Thread Tony B
I auto copy a lot of mail to other people based on simple filters, one of which could look for a specific tag. Relatively simple to do in Gmail, but I bet you need the premium Yahoo mail to do it. Trying to get a desktop client to do it wouldn't really work, as the outgoing mail would be from

[CGUYS] Apple Update

2008-08-02 Thread Stephen Brownfield
Any comments about Apple's recent Security Update 2008-005? Any comments about iTunes update (version 7.7)? Thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

[CGUYS] Installing Visual Studio Express '08

2008-08-02 Thread Joe Tseng
I'm trying to install tools for Visual Studio Express and I'm consistently getting this message: These pre-release products might include, but are not limited to, the following: - Windows SDK .Net Tools - MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2008 Beta 2 - ENU - Microsoft Visual Studio 2008

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread b_s-wilk
-Original Message- ISP's are shutting off USENET because of Andrew Cuomo, Secretary of State for New York State. Ah, the proud New York tradition of electing power mad, publicity whoring, thuggish assholes as their Attorney General. (He is actually the AG, not the SoS) As opposed

Re: [CGUYS] Need ?mail server?

2008-08-02 Thread Matthew Taylor
I am pretty sure Pegasus mail will do what is needed. It has a redirect (called bounce as I recall) that will send the mail to a new recipient as from the original sender, not as a standard forward (which is a separate option in Pmail). Pegasus has a command line scripting tool that I

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread mike
Which groups are those? Isn't this logic the same as driving around looking for homes with 'we make meth here' signs in the yard? I realize the alt's are a wild west and being wild, blocking xyz groups means they move to abc groups and post. I've not much hope if you are serious with the

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
I've not much hope if you are serious with the 'censorship is always wrong' comment. Censorship is always wrong. Just go back 100 years or 200 years to examine some bit of censorship with the benefit of not being caught up in the moment. At best you will see it is absurd. More likely you will

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread mike
Indeed..so we should allow the posting of 50 year old men having sex with nine year old boys? Free speech no matter what? If that were true we would have no laws about libel or slander. I suppose we should repeal those laws as well. Civilized society would be much more...civilized. Mike On

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
In the news today we have reports of China's decision to block parts of the Internet from visiting journalists. These are mainly political views being blocked. I've never seen that done in the United States. Well no, this is a Capitalist society. Here blocking is motivated by profit motives.

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread mike
Holy crap...I agree with Tom again. Earthquake? Fire? Flood? Locusts?? On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the news today we have reports of China's decision to block parts of the Internet from visiting journalists. These are mainly political views being

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...chinese ban lifted apparently...

2008-08-02 Thread mike
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/02/china.internet?gusrc=rssfeed=technologyfull * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
Holy crap...I agree with Tom again. Earthquake? Fire? Flood? Locusts?? Summer cicadas? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...chinese ban lifted apparentl

2008-08-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/02/china.internet?gusrc=rssfeed= technologyfull Ultimately this is good push back. Exposes them to the civilized world. Ultimately McCain will agree that 18 months is not a bad deadline. Ultimately IT managers will admit that Microsoft sucks.

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
Indeed..so we should allow the posting of 50 year old men having sex with nine year old boys? Free speech no matter what? If that were true we would have no laws about libel or slander. I suppose we should repeal those laws as well. Civilized society would be much more...civilized. What do

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...chinese ban lifted apparentl

2008-08-02 Thread mike
I hope these two are not dependent on one another. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ultimately McCain will agree that 18 months is not a bad deadline. Ultimately IT managers will admit that Microsoft sucks.

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread mike
I'll wait for your reply on my question, I'll answer yours in the movie listserv. Mike On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed..so we should allow the posting of 50 year old men having sex with nine year old boys? Free speech no matter what? If that were

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Jordan
Tom Piwowar wrote: Indeed..so we should allow the posting of 50 year old men having sex with nine year old boys? Free speech no matter what? If that were true we would have no laws about libel or slander. I suppose we should repeal those laws as well. Civilized society would be much

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Michael Abrams
At 02:32 PM 8/2/2008, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed..so we should allow the posting of 50 year old men having sex with nine year old boys? Interesting image. How/Why did you come up with it? Have you ever actually seen anything like that? Do you know anyone who has? How can you

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread b_s-wilk
When the ISPs remove a service that has been included in their package of services, what's the odds that they'll reduce the monthly/yearly charges? I remember back in the good old days when I was in grade school, we read my best friend's church newsletter every Sunday, starting with the back

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Eric S. Sande
Well no, this is a Capitalist society. Here blocking is motivated by profit motives. The telecoms lie to us about how expensive it is to move electrons and seek to block services they see as a threat to their ability to overcharge. Well, it isn't that expensive to move electrons but it costs

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Jeff Wright
As opposed to power mad, publicity whoring thuggish assholes in the White House? No, in addition to that. Do you have trouble envisioning both, or just ones with a (D) next to their name? or in the Alabama or Mississippi state houses? Mississippi has more problems than that. Like a state

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Can everyone here do me a favor and quit bashing religion. Morals are set by society. Any society has a sense of morals, and taboos set by what the community standard is. (There may be a basis in a common religious background, but even diverse religious backgrounds can agree on moral

Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...

2008-08-02 Thread Eric S. Sande
Comcast is no slouch in the child porn fight: it helped organize an industry-wide agreement last week with 45 attorneys general. I was required to conduct training on this issue for my employees. It wasn't comfortable for anyone but I did it and that satisfied the requirement. I have no doubt