Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread b_s-wilk

Steve -

You can't taste the food on the Internet. You can't appreciate the 
special French love of beauty and nature on the Internet. You can't feel 
the excitement of colors and scents at the weekly outdoor markets on the 
Internet. Most of all you can't appreciate the wonderful French sense of 
humor on the Internet. Doesn't matter if you don't speak French or 
whatever language is spoken in the country you're visiting, as long as 
you learn the basics--hello, goodbye, please, thank you, and a few more 
phrases--and use them politely, you'll be welcome almost anywhere in the 
world. Lots of people will gladly practice speaking English with you. 
And if not, you can have an amazing conversation by pointing to pictures 
on you cell phone or notebook, and haggle effectively with a calculator.


But you have to go, as a traveler instead a tourist, not on a tour, 
without a group, and meet lots of people [even the charming gendarmes 
who were taking classes at our hotel near Perpignan]. After all, that's 
the best reason to travel--people [and shopping]. And you can keep in 
touch with friends and family using their very fast Internet and 
ubiquitous cellular networks while you're away from home. Most 
important, never let a lack of money keep you from traveling. Go! Now! 
I hear the weather in the Canary Islands is delightful this time of 
year--or maybe Brazil, Uruguay or Chile.


Did I mention the food? All that delicious unprocessed non-GMO food?

Betty



> Like this...
> http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.life/?hpt=T2


  It often surprises me that the Internet does not really seem to have
done all that much to broaden how well a lot of people in the United
States understand and view the rest of the world and how our nation
fits into the mix.  So much information is available, yet so many of
the same and tired old myths and misperceptions abound.

  We are not the top dog in many areas that are commonly used to
determine quality of life, yet so many in the United States continue
to maintain that we are.  Yet, these same people, a lot of them in
influential positions and claiming to be experts, are quite computer
literate and routinely ply the ether of the Internet.  They must have
very powerful filtering algorithms at work in their computers that
prevent them from discovering what so many others can easily find and
plainly see.



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[CGUYS] WinXP BSOD

2010-02-11 Thread Fred Holmes
For those who may be experiencing the BSOD that some have acquired after 
applying Tuesday's WinXP patches, there is a discussion of how to uninstall 
these patches using the Recovery Console at:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/thread/73cea559-ebbd-4274-96bc-e292b69f2fd1/#e9b28c45-635c-4adf-8d24-817bf39c207b
  

http://bit.ly/9cU7jJ

Be sure to read the whole thing.  The first (manual) script contains syntax 
errors (typos) that are corrected in later posts.

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Re: [CGUYS] popoz...@earthlink.net has shared: Apple iPad's Tiny SIM Is Just There to Mess With You

2010-02-11 Thread Fred Holmes
At 07:46 PM 2/11/2010, Steve at Verizon wrote:
>On Feb 11, 2010, at 1:16 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>I should have said, "Never RUSH OUT and buy version 1.0 of
>>>anything."
>>Many of us are quite happily running Windows 7 V1.0. Of course, many will say 
>>this is Windows Vista V3.0 :-)

Nah!  It's clearly Windows NT V. 7.0.  That's exactly what it is named.

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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread Fred Holmes
At 06:48 PM 2/11/2010, John DeCarlo wrote:
>You used to occasionally try to keep close to reality.

I'm getting to old to worry about that any more.

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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread b_s-wilk

Perhaps the new networks should be owned by the public, as it is where it
works, instead of waiting and waiting and waiting for private companies to
expand the networks, often with assistance through public grants and tax
breaks. Once the networks are created with public money, they could be
maintained by private companies for the benefit of the public--as utilities.


  We all know about how far a suggestion such as this will go given
the current political climate in the United States.

  Steve


Too bad the evil US DoD invented ARPANET with OUR valuable tax dollars, 
and spent OUR money for so many years on a silly Defense project, then 
allowed that Brit Tim Berners-Lee at CERN [that evil place where they're 
looking for the God particle] to GIVE AWAY his WWW code for FREE--and 
have the nerve to start the W3C to make us follow their standards, not 
ours.


Should have been corporate. Then we'd have nothing...or maybe the Swiss 
would own the Internet. That could be interesting [having worked for a 
Swiss company]. That might work better that it does now. I love/hate the 
Swiss, but they're never boring.


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Re: [CGUYS] popoz...@earthlink.net has shared: Apple iPad's Tiny SIM Is Just There to Mess With You

2010-02-11 Thread Steve at Verizon

On Feb 11, 2010, at 1:16 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

I should have said, "Never RUSH OUT and buy version 1.0 of
anything."
Many of us are quite happily running Windows 7 V1.0. Of course, many 
will say this is Windows Vista V3.0 :-)



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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread John DeCarlo
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Fred Holmes  wrote:

> At 05:22 PM 2/11/2010, tjpa wrote:
> >viz. previous comment on brainwashing. Why did you not bring up death
> >panels? That's the surest way to keep costs down.
>
> The death panel is a Democratic Party concept.  Only the name came from the
> Republicans.  The Democrats had the concept buried in the Health Care bill
> in very obscure language, but they didn't succeed in hiding it from the
> public.
>

Man, I almost snorted my drink through my nose.

Either you have your tongue planted firmly in cheek, or you have had some
sort of brain hemorrhage.

You used to occasionally try to keep close to reality.

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Re: [CGUYS] Intuit's amazing sidestep

2010-02-11 Thread Judy Cosler
WTH is an "engine log?"

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Q. Fisher wrote:

> After jumping through all of Intuit's hoops, thought I could get my taxes
> done today while the snow melts (ha!). After a few hours of data entry the
> program crashes with an error 25300 that includes a link to Intuit for the
> solution! So they must know about it.
>
> I also found on several ocassions inormation entered into a wprkpage did
> not get sent onto the form it was to support, and the numbers had to be
> entered in over-ride mode.
>
> I've not found Turbotax to be buggy in years past, but this year is making
> up for it!
>
> Here's what Intuit's support page says:
>
> 
> Error 25300 When Using TurboTax
> Updated: 1/13/2010
> Article ID: 7760
> It has been reported that Error 25300 occurs when using TurboTax, most
> commonly when switching from forms mode to interview mode and when trying to
> open a tax file that has already been saved.
> We are aware of this issue and are currently investigating it. In order for
> us to pinpoint the root cause of the situation, we would like to review
> engine logs from affected users.
>
> --
> --
> Quentin A. Fisher
> Bethesda, MD
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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread Vicky Staubly

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Fred Holmes wrote:
The death panel is a Democratic Party concept.  Only the name came from 
the Republicans.  The Democrats had the concept buried in the Health 
Care bill in very obscure language, but they didn't succeed in hiding it 
from the public.


Wow! Does _everyone_ wear those tinfoil hats on your planet?

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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread Fred Holmes
At 05:22 PM 2/11/2010, tjpa wrote:
>viz. previous comment on brainwashing. Why did you not bring up death  
>panels? That's the surest way to keep costs down.

The death panel is a Democratic Party concept.  Only the name came from the 
Republicans.  The Democrats had the concept buried in the Health Care bill in 
very obscure language, but they didn't succeed in hiding it from the public.

The best way to keep costs down is to have the lifestyle police prevent 
everyone from doing anything at all risky, including eating too much and eating 
the wrong foods.  Prohibit all red meat, all starches, . . .

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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:51 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
Finland is also building a national network. It has lots of empty  
spaces and more weather challenges for installers than in the US-- 
including this week's eastern US blizzards.


It should be considered a strategic resource, much like the National  
Defense Highway System. Considering the likelihood of cyberattack it  
probably needs more protection than our roadways.


Tell me how is the internet substantially different from the highway  
net?



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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread mike
I'm happy to have the republicans own their deficits, how long till both
sides realize there is a third invisible party from both sides driving this
up and up and now its just Obama at the helm now.

On Feb 11, 2010 3:26 PM, "b_s-wilk"  wrote:

>> > The liberals just want to make everyone equally miserable. > >
>
> >  Or, perhaps just more equally situated and hopefully happy, referred >
> to as Communism in some ci...
>

The communist label would be wrong, however. Socialism, as in Scandinavia,
is a better description for liberal societies where people are happy with
their gummints. The Republican deficits he complains about will go away when
we can get the corporations out of our government. Fast networks for people
will make businesses more profitable too.

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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:
I don't think any socialist state has made a go of it for a  
significant number of years, unless they have been able to fund  
their largess by selling North Sea Oil or other minerals to finance  
their largesse.


viz. previous comment on brainwashing. Why did you not mention  
assassinating the Czar and seizing his gold? That's a sure way to  
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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:
I don't know how to evaluate it, but it's often been said that the  
quality of life statistics are apples and oranges among different  
countries.  The classic example is that most countries simply let  
preemies die, they don't try to save them.  Since they die at birth,  
the are _not_ recorded as an infant mortality statistic.  The U.S.'s  
infant mortality statistics are high because we do try to save  
preemies, but don't always succeed.  Dunno if this is true, but I'll  
bet there are a lot of things like this.  And, I'll bet most  
government cook these kinds of statistics.


viz. previous comment on brainwashing. Why did you not bring up death  
panels? That's the surest way to keep costs down.



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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread b_s-wilk

> The liberals just want to make everyone equally miserable.


 Or, perhaps just more equally situated and hopefully happy, referred
to as Communism in some circles.

  Steve


The communist label would be wrong, however. Socialism, as in 
Scandinavia, is a better description for liberal societies where people 
are happy with their gummints. The Republican deficits he complains 
about will go away when we can get the corporations out of our 
government. Fast networks for people will make businesses more 
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[CGUYS] Intuit's amazing sidestep

2010-02-11 Thread Q. Fisher
After jumping through all of Intuit's hoops, thought I could get my 
taxes done today while the snow melts (ha!). After a few hours of data 
entry the program crashes with an error 25300 that includes a link to 
Intuit for the solution! So they must know about it.


I also found on several ocassions inormation entered into a wprkpage did 
not get sent onto the form it was to support, and the numbers had to be 
entered in over-ride mode.


I've not found Turbotax to be buggy in years past, but this year is 
making up for it!


Here's what Intuit's support page says:

Error 25300 When Using TurboTax
Updated: 1/13/2010
Article ID: 7760
It has been reported that Error 25300 occurs when using TurboTax, most 
commonly when switching from forms mode to interview mode and when 
trying to open a tax file that has already been saved.
We are aware of this issue and are currently investigating it. In order 
for us to pinpoint the root cause of the situation, we would like to 
review engine logs from affected users.

--
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Quentin A. Fisher
Bethesda, MD


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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread Fred Holmes
At 04:36 PM 2/11/2010, tjpa wrote:
>Their supporters, who vote against their own interests, are so deeply  
>brainwashed that they are oblivious to facts. If you try to clue them  
>in they attack you with blind range. There is really nothing to do  
>about it. They will never wise up.

I don't think so.  They understand that the government is worse than the 
"robber barons."

I don't think any socialist state has made a go of it for a significant number 
of years, unless they have been able to fund their largess by selling North Sea 
Oil or other minerals to finance their largesse. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:51 PM, b_s-wilk  wrote:

> Perhaps the new networks should be owned by the public, as it is where it
> works, instead of waiting and waiting and waiting for private companies to
> expand the networks, often with assistance through public grants and tax
> breaks. Once the networks are created with public money, they could be
> maintained by private companies for the benefit of the public--as utilities.

  We all know about how far a suggestion such as this will go given
the current political climate in the United States.

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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread Fred Holmes
I don't know how to evaluate it, but it's often been said that the quality of 
life statistics are apples and oranges among different countries.  The classic 
example is that most countries simply let preemies die, they don't try to save 
them.  Since they die at birth, the are _not_ recorded as an infant mortality 
statistic.  The U.S.'s infant mortality statistics are high because we do try 
to save preemies, but don't always succeed.  Dunno if this is true, but I'll 
bet there are a lot of things like this.  And, I'll bet most government cook 
these kinds of statistics. 

Fred Holmes

At 03:38 PM 2/11/2010, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

>  It often surprises me that the Internet does not really seem to have
>done all that much to broaden how well a lot of people in the United
>States understand and view the rest of the world and how our nation
>fits into the mix.  So much information is available, yet so many of
>the same and tired old myths and misperceptions abound.
>
>  We are not the top dog in many areas that are commonly used to
>determine quality of life, yet so many in the United States continue
>to maintain that we are.  Yet, these same people, a lot of them in
>influential positions and claiming to be experts, are quite computer
>literate and routinely ply the ether of the Internet.  They must have
>very powerful filtering algorithms at work in their computers that
>prevent them from discovering what so many others can easily find and
>plainly see.
>
>  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] popoz...@earthlink.net has shared: Apple iPad's Tiny SIM Is Just There to Mess With You

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:52 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

I saw that you got the iPod a few weeks after initial release.  I
will suppose that you did some research prior to buying it, or at
least took note of comments made by folks who were already using
iPods.


I had been shopping for a MP3 player for over a year and constantly  
facing terrible compromises. When I went to the Apple Store to see the  
new iPod it was immediately obvious that they had solved the problems.  
It was plainly sufficient and far better than every other product on  
the market. There was no need to wait.



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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread b_s-wilk

It is not unprecedented. It exists in Japan, Korea, and other places  I'm not 
going to look up.


I'm not going to cite numbers on how small physically Japan and Korea
are.  Compared to the US. 


Finland is also building a national network. It has lots of empty spaces 
and more weather challenges for installers than in the US--including 
this week's eastern US blizzards.


It could cost about the same or less per household in the US as in 
Finland if there are incentives to create a viable network. Google 
competition could help a lot with that. Maybe there could be an 
affordable gigabit network in the US, but not likely for a long time. 
The telecoms have been collecting fees for new networks.


Perhaps the new networks should be owned by the public, as it is where 
it works, instead of waiting and waiting and waiting for private 
companies to expand the networks, often with assistance through public 
grants and tax breaks. Once the networks are created with public money, 
they could be maintained by private companies for the benefit of the 
public--as utilities.


Private networks are welcomed to compete, however need to be prohibited 
from suing municipalities that plan to build their own networks for 
restraint of trade where the private companies refused to serve, as 
happened in Lafayette, Louisiana, in Ohio, Minnesota, North Carolina, 
and across the country; ex., http://is.gd/8bxiY.



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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread Fred Holmes
I don't give much credence to picks by "judges." The judges generally give 
different weighting factors to the quality of life attributes.  What's the 
relative emigration / immigration between the U.S. and France?

Fred Holmes

At 02:42 PM 2/11/2010, tjpa wrote:
>>The liberals just want to make everyone equally miserable.
>
>Like this...
>http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.life/?hpt=T2


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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:38 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

We are not the top dog in many areas that are commonly used to
determine quality of life, yet so many in the United States continue
to maintain that we are.


Well the robber barons don't care. They are sitting in their mansions  
counting the loot they stole from widows and orphans.


Their supporters, who vote against their own interests, are so deeply  
brainwashed that they are oblivious to facts. If you try to clue them  
in they attack you with blind range. There is really nothing to do  
about it. They will never wise up.



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Re: [CGUYS] popoz...@earthlink.net has shared: Apple iPad's Tiny SIM Is Just There to Mess With You

2010-02-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:40 PM, tjpa  wrote:

> It is all about the quality of the engineering.

  To a great extent, yes.  However, there are other considerations as
well.  Sometimes there may be an item or a feature that has been
omitted in a brand new product that would have been expected, or a
feature that is present but may not work as well as expected.  Product
reviews or commentary about a product can often provide insight into
situations like this when such cannot be easily ascertained otherwise.

  I saw that you got the iPod a few weeks after initial release.  I
will suppose that you did some research prior to buying it, or at
least took note of comments made by folks who were already using
iPods.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:42 PM, tjpa  wrote:

> Like this...
> http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.life/?hpt=T2

  It often surprises me that the Internet does not really seem to have
done all that much to broaden how well a lot of people in the United
States understand and view the rest of the world and how our nation
fits into the mix.  So much information is available, yet so many of
the same and tired old myths and misperceptions abound.

  We are not the top dog in many areas that are commonly used to
determine quality of life, yet so many in the United States continue
to maintain that we are.  Yet, these same people, a lot of them in
influential positions and claiming to be experts, are quite computer
literate and routinely ply the ether of the Internet.  They must have
very powerful filtering algorithms at work in their computers that
prevent them from discovering what so many others can easily find and
plainly see.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] win7 to "phone home" - comments?

2010-02-11 Thread Andy Gallant

On 2/11/2010 2:41 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Andy Gallant  wrote:



Any comments or perspectives?

-



I suspect you already know what at least half a dozen people on this site
will say.

And how likely it is that you will get technical answers and comments on
this list.

True, but I can hope!  And, seriously, I still think this update is 
worth asking about, and in particular, how accurate the technical 
aspects in the two postings are.


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Re: [CGUYS] win7 to "phone home" - comments?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:41 PM, John DeCarlo wrote:
And how likely it is that you will get technical answers and  
comments on

this list.


More misdirection. It is not a technical question so technical answers  
would be irrelevant.


It is a business question. Does anybody want to risk their business to  
an operating system that can be remotely shut down whenever the  
security software has a hiccup?


Anybody running Windows would be well served to have a few Macs in  
reserve. Or maybe more than a few.


If the malware don't get you first, the M$ marketing department  
certainly will.



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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

The liberals just want to make everyone equally miserable.


Like this...
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.life/?hpt=T2


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Re: [CGUYS] win7 to "phone home" - comments?

2010-02-11 Thread John DeCarlo
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Andy Gallant  wrote:

>
> Any comments or perspectives?
>
> -
>

I suspect you already know what at least half a dozen people on this site
will say.

And how likely it is that you will get technical answers and comments on
this list.

-- 
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Re: [CGUYS] win7 to "phone home" - comments?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Andy Gallant wrote:
perpetual anti-piracy surveillance regime embedded within already  
purchased consumer equipment -- is entirely unacceptable.


And don't omit mention of...
Security patch results in BSOD, stops Windows from booting
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/02/security-patch-results-in-bsod-stops-windows-from-booting.ars


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Re: [CGUYS] popoz...@earthlink.net has shared: Apple iPad's Tiny SIM Is Just There to Mess With You

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 1:16 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

I should have said, "Never RUSH OUT and buy version 1.0 of
anything."


I got my iPod 1.0 just a few weeks after it was introduced. It was  
absolutely amazing. For a few months I was the only one on Metro with  
white earphones. Then little by little, almost everybody had them.


Though I agree that I would not touch a new OS X version or any M$  
product until at least SP2 or SP3.


It is all about the quality of the engineering.


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[CGUYS] win7 to "phone home" - comments?

2010-02-11 Thread Andy Gallant

FYI:

From Lauren Weinstein's Blog 
(http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000681.html), there's a long posting 
about the "Windows Activation Technologies Update for Windows 7" that 
begins and ends as follows:


  -begin-

February 11, 2010
Who Owns Your PC? New Anti-Piracy Windows 7 Update "Phones Home" to 
Microsoft Every 90 Days


Greetings. Sometimes a seemingly small software update can usher in a 
whole new world. When Microsoft shortly pushes out a Windows 7 update 
with the reportedly innocuous title "Update for Microsoft Windows 
(KB71033)" -- it will be taking your Windows 7 system where it has never 
been before.


And it may not be a place where you want to go.

  -/major snip/-

While I certainly appreciate Microsoft's piracy problems, and the 
negative impact that these have both on the company and consumers, I 
believe that the approach represented by this kind of escalation on the 
part of Microsoft and others -- into what basically amounts to a 
perpetual anti-piracy surveillance regime embedded within already 
purchased consumer equipment -- is entirely unacceptable.


  -end-

The Windows Blog posting mentioned in that posting is here: 
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/genuinewindows/archive/2010/02/11/windows-activation-technologies-update-for-windows-7.aspx.  
Two points from it are:


"I'd like to stress that *the Update is voluntary,* which means that you 
can choose not to install it when you see it appear on Windows Update. I 
also want to stress that installing this update will not jeopardize your 
privacy; although the update contacts Microsoft's servers to check for 
new threats as I outline below, the information we receive from PCs 
during these checks *does not include any personally identifiable 
information *or any other information that Microsoft can use to identify 
or contact you."


and

"The Update will run periodic validations (initially every 90 days). 
During validation, Windows will download the latest 'signatures' that 
are used to identify new activation exploits -- much like an anti-virus 
service. When tampering, disabling, or missing licensing files are 
discovered, the WAT Update runs a check and repair weekly to ensure that 
the licensing files are properly repaired."


Any comments or perspectives?

-Andy



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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:
If you took all of the corporate bonuses and threw them in a pot, it  
would be minuscule in comparison with the deficits governments are  
running.


Magicians call this technique misdirection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misdirection_(magic)


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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:

Gee, you can't plan ahead *four hours*


NO!

When you click on a web link are you oaky with the page appearing 4  
hours later?



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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
And the NeoCons spread BS and fear-mongering to keep us all ignorant and
afraid of the liberals.

Thank you, 
Mark Snyder 
-Original Message-
If you took all of the corporate bonuses and threw them in a pot, it
would be minuscule in comparison with the deficits governments are
running.

While I have a problem when corporate managers get bonuses from failing
companies, I have no problem with bonuses from successful companies.  We
do a better job of running industry in this country than anywhere else.
At scale.  A big factor is corporate management reward systems.

The liberals just want to make everyone equally miserable.


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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Fred Holmes  wrote:

> The liberals just want to make everyone equally miserable.

 Or, perhaps just more equally situated and hopefully happy, referred
to as Communism in some circles.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] popoz...@earthlink.net has shared: Apple iPad's Tiny SIM Is Just There to Mess With You

2010-02-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:27 PM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:57 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Please remember the cardinal rule.  Never buy version 1.0 of anything.
>
> I'm really impressed by the size of the disinformation campaign that has
> been launched against Apple. My version 1.0 iPod was amazing and I only
> recently replaced it. Most damaging to Apple are the wild claims circulating
> that Apple is going to drop the price. And Saint Bill Gates is not being
> quoted saying that the iPod needs a parallel port.

  I should have said, "Never RUSH OUT and buy version 1.0 of
anything."  A bit if time will allow most potential purchasers of new
gear to find out how well the new product actually works.  If not up
to expectations, a revised version of the product at a later date may
prove to be satisfactory.

  This has nothing at all to do with disinformation about Apple.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread Fred Holmes
If you took all of the corporate bonuses and threw them in a pot, it would be 
minuscule in comparison with the deficits governments are running.

While I have a problem when corporate managers get bonuses from failing 
companies, I have no problem with bonuses from successful companies.  We do a 
better job of running industry in this country than anywhere else.  At scale.  
A big factor is corporate management reward systems.

The liberals just want to make everyone equally miserable.

Fred Holmes

At 10:47 AM 2/11/2010, tjpa wrote:
>If it is liberal to notice that corporate managers are holding the  
>nation hostage while paying themselves huge salaries and bonuses then  
>I'm happy to be a liberal. This corporate attitude is not unlike that  
>of the Greek Communist labor unions who are currently striking to warn  
>their government that they expect to be paid top dollar even as the  
>Greek nation collapses under the financial burden. Should I call you a  
>Communist apparatchik?


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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread Fred Holmes
Gee, you can't plan ahead *four hours*

BTW, what is the resolution and time duration of this four-hour download?  
760p?  two hours?

Who is your ISP?

On Cox Cable in Annandale, VA I get 20 mbs if the server can provide it, i.e., 
on occasional downloads.

Fred Holmes

At 11:40 PM 2/10/2010, t.piwowar wrote:
>Today, suffering from cabin fever, I ordered up a video on demand from  
>Amazon. It took close to 4 hours to trickle down the wires. At such a  
>data rate I'm not likely to give the service much business. Google  
>claims their network would have delivered this video in 5 minutes.  
>That would make VOD quite appealing.


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Re: [CGUYS] popoz...@earthlink.net has shared: Apple iPad's Tiny SIM Is Just There to Mess With You

2010-02-11 Thread mike
Ironically those wild claims probably came from Apple itself.  Keeps them in
the news longer if they leak little bits at a time.

On Feb 11, 2010 10:31 AM, "tjpa"  wrote:

On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:57 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > > Please remember
the cardinal rule.  Nev...
I'm really impressed by the size of the disinformation campaign that has
been launched against Apple. My version 1.0 iPod was amazing and I only
recently replaced it. Most damaging to Apple are the wild claims circulating
that Apple is going to drop the price. And Saint Bill Gates is not being
quoted saying that the iPod needs a parallel port.

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Re: [CGUYS] popoz...@earthlink.net has shared: Apple iPad's Tiny SIM Is Just There to Mess With You

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:57 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

Please remember the cardinal rule.  Never buy version 1.0 of anything.


I'm really impressed by the size of the disinformation campaign that  
has been launched against Apple. My version 1.0 iPod was amazing and I  
only recently replaced it. Most damaging to Apple are the wild claims  
circulating that Apple is going to drop the price. And Saint Bill  
Gates is not being quoted saying that the iPod needs a parallel port.



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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:29 AM, John DeCarlo wrote:

So now it is "Boo hoo, we don't have multi-terabit optical switches
anywhere, and it would cost us money to upgrade all at once just for
consumers to get more bandwidth.  Boo hoo, give us more money."


Interesting commentary at 
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2010/02/googles-fiber-network-experiment-could-be-disruptive-/1
"Some of the big telecoms may feel threatened by Google's attempts to  
control key parts of the Internet, says Day. Others may feel Google  
could help validate the hundreds of billions of dollars poured into  
installing fiber trunk lines. "If there is a new generation of  
compelling applications that come out of this," he says, "it  could  
stimulate business for everyone."


Several commentators have also noted that there is still a huge amount  
of dark fiber left over from the bursting of the Internet bubble a  
decade ago. Google could pick this up for a song and bypass  
recalcitrant incumbent carriers.


Currently the telecoms are trying to hold the rest of the economy  
hostage.



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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
One of the problems with Cell service is that it is hostage to 
environmental conditions and topography.


Go into a hilly area and you have dropouts of cell service.  Hills, 
and stuff cut signal.  Cities also have problems with buildings 
causing drop offs.  Many cell companies have to increase their 
antennas in cities to get good coverage.  But then you can place them 
atop buildings and get better coverage.


In my are it is military posts that limit some signal coverage.  Not 
only are we dealing with federal land, but also extensive flying are 
that must have permission to put anything that sticks up into the air.


Until we get over some of those limitations it will be difficult.

When Katrina hit New Orleans, we had problems communicating with our 
people in the NO area by voice.  However SMS worked amazingly 
well.  Takes up a lot less bandwidth.  (And is a cash cow for cell companies.)


Stewart


At 09:40 AM 2/11/2010, you wrote:

  Getting a cell signal in parts of Great Falls in Virginia, near
McLean and close to the CIA and DC can be difficult, and that is a
fairly well populated section of the Virginia suburbs, and even a
so-called high rent district.

  Thank goodness I have an old timey, and some believe obsolete, wired
telephone at home here in Fauquier County, VA.  During the recent
storm electricity was out, cell signals were iffy at best as is usual,
complicated even more by snow and blowing wind, and cell phone
batteries died, but that old telephone technology just kept on
cranking without fail.  I even distributed two of those old "obsolete"
phones to neighbors who only had cordless phones that do not work
without electric service, and that was down for nearly five days.

  Steve


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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Re: [CGUYS] Science Friday: Facial Recognition

2010-02-11 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Depends on what database is used to check the face; if FaceBook, I can
see an iPhone app for that.

Thank you, 
Mark Snyder 

-Original Message-
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:56 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> Science Friday recently had an interesting segment on facial
recognition.
 And eventually being able to use it to get an instant
> ID for anybody you meet on the street.

  I think that last one is pretty much out of the question for
"normal" folks.  Law enforcement and homeland security interests will
see to that.


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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread John DeCarlo
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Eric S. Sande  wrote:

> You want private telecom to deliver universal broadband in the US,
> you are going to have to pay for it.
>

My main complaint in this area is that there seems to be little money spent
to refresh technology.

The  hardest part about Gigabit to the home is really getting fiber to the
home.

For Verizon to complain about how hard it will be to update their
infrastructure to handle the increased traffic is a big load of cr*p.  There
is no reason for telecoms not to have kept up with technology at fairly low
costs over time.

We saw how the telecoms were complaining how much it costs to provide
consumers with *the advertised bandwidth*  (we thought they would only use
1% of it, so we could clearly pretend to offer a lot, sniff!).

As so many have mentioned, if they put some of the profit to keep the
infrastructure upgraded as technology improved, they would have higher
profit today.  But the executives who depend on stock price would have seen
a tiny decrease in their compensation, maybe, so it didn't get done.

Sad commentary.

So now it is "Boo hoo, we don't have multi-terabit optical switches
anywhere, and it would cost us money to upgrade all at once just for
consumers to get more bandwidth.  Boo hoo, give us more money."

-- 
John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own


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Re: [CGUYS] Science Friday: Facial Recognition

2010-02-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:56 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> Science Friday recently had an interesting segment on facial recognition.
> What caught my attention was a digression about other uses for recognition
> technology. They spoke of pointing your smart phone at a building and
> getting the address and list of tenants. Or if it was a restaurant getting
> its menu and reviews. And eventually being able to use it to get an instant
> ID for anybody you meet on the street.

  I think that last one is pretty much out of the question for
"normal" folks.  Law enforcement and homeland security interests will
see to that.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] popoz...@earthlink.net has shared: Apple iPad's Tiny SIM Is Just There to Mess With You

2010-02-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:35 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> I continue to be amazed that the folks on this list would expect a tech
> leader to introduce a new product and fill it with old technologies.

 Please remember the cardinal rule.  Never buy version 1.0 of anything.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Gigabit Broadband To Your House?

2010-02-11 Thread tjpa

On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:12 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote:
I know it's not a thing that liberals want to believe, but it costs  
real

money to deploy that technology.  Go ahead and vote for it, I know
how to do it.  But it is going to cost real money to implement on a
wide scale.


Last time I checked Google was not the government. Are you suggesting  
that those famous black helicopters are going to fan out from  
Washington to deliver gigabit to the people? Or are you just preparing  
an excuse in case Google delivers on its promise?


If it is liberal to notice that corporate managers are holding the  
nation hostage while paying themselves huge salaries and bonuses then  
I'm happy to be a liberal. This corporate attitude is not unlike that  
of the Greek Communist labor unions who are currently striking to warn  
their government that they expect to be paid top dollar even as the  
Greek nation collapses under the financial burden. Should I call you a  
Communist apparatchik?



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Re: [CGUYS] apple-stanza-usb

2010-02-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Constance Warner  wrote:

> If you'll read reviews on cellphone performance in the National Capitol
> area, you'll find lots of places [including some in the District] where the
> cellphones of various providers just don't work.

  Getting a cell signal in parts of Great Falls in Virginia, near
McLean and close to the CIA and DC can be difficult, and that is a
fairly well populated section of the Virginia suburbs, and even a
so-called high rent district.

  Thank goodness I have an old timey, and some believe obsolete, wired
telephone at home here in Fauquier County, VA.  During the recent
storm electricity was out, cell signals were iffy at best as is usual,
complicated even more by snow and blowing wind, and cell phone
batteries died, but that old telephone technology just kept on
cranking without fail.  I even distributed two of those old "obsolete"
phones to neighbors who only had cordless phones that do not work
without electric service, and that was down for nearly five days.

  Steve


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