Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-04 Thread Paul Meyer
Isn't a USB audio interface even a better idea than an internal sound card? They can be fairly cheap. Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert, This looks like a good plan. Thanks for the advice from a voice of experience. Richard P. Robert wrote: My two cents: If I were doing this, I

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-02 Thread Fred Holmes
Car Talk is currently available as a podcast. So you don't have to record it in real time. You get two weeks to download a performance. Fred Holmes At 02:37 PM 12/30/2007, Steve at Verizon wrote: I was a happy Total Recorder user. I used it to capture streaming audio (like Car Talk on WAMU).

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-02 Thread Steve at Verizon
Thank you, thank you, thank you... iTunes used to have only a five minute highlight call for free. And the only way to get the entire show was to pay for it through Audible.com. Hence Total Recorder. They must have made it available since the last time I checked. Great news! John Duncan

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
The original poster asked how to convert and transfer ANALOG sources to digital format for both archival purposes as well as casual use with iTunes... Well not exactly. Richard's question was... What is the best way to save cassettes/records to an external hard drive for future use (dubbing

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-02 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jan 2, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: So I interpret best way as least difficult way to achieve sufficient quality for use in a CD player. I leave it to Richard to improve on this definition. You are right. Best way is open to conjecture. Let's go back to digital cameras for a

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-02 Thread Richard P.
To clarify, I want to be able to transfer my cassette/record music content to CD's so I can have access to my music in the future. I would prefer that what goes to the CD be in the highest quality possible. Along the way, I would put some of the music to iPod for my personal/portable use,

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-02 Thread Robert
My two cents: If I were doing this, I would first copy cassette or records to the WAV format using a high-quality computer sound card. The sound card might have its own WAV program, or you could use Audacity. Next, I would use an audio clean-up program to remove hiss, pops, and scratches.

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-02 Thread Tony B
I'm not hearing any pops. May be your connection. On Jan 2, 2008 6:59 PM, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is interested, you can compare the sound quality of a high bitrate and a low bitrate music mp3 at a web site for which I serve as web dunce. The web address is:

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread Eric S. Sande
I am not an audiophile, but I always enjoyed wonderful music. Um, that's not exactly accurate based on the rest of your post. Face it, Stewart, you ARE an audiophile :-). However I have lost parts of my hearing over time as I served with line units in the army reserve. Thank you for your

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
You can, Betty can, Steve can, I can. That is evidence. Some have better equipment than others. Some have hearing impairment to a greater or lesser degree. But the bottom line is that MP3 sucks, from an audio quality standpoint. A high-bit-rate MP3 is just fine. No need to torture ourselves

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
I can listen to some MP3's and tell you they are inferior by how they sound. Of course, MP3s can be compressed to greater or lesser degrees and this can be misused. If you use a setting intended for spoken voice recordings for orchestral work it is going to sound terrible. If you the same

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It is not just the bit rate that determines the quality of an MP3. It is also the quality of the source. I went through and listened to a few MP3's the other day to see if I could tell the difference between bit rate and I could not. But there are some inherent problems with way the MP3's

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jan 1, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: A high-bit-rate MP3 is just fine. No need to torture ourselves to reach some imaginary standard of purity. If you need a machine to detect something you can not hear it is really pointless. Music is intended for the enjoyment of humans, not to

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread gerald
I think you sent this to me, instead of to cgz. when I fly, i want to kill as much sound as possible. i use shure isolation phones. I cannot hear pilot or FA announcemsnts. cannot hear those damned babies crying or those asshole conversations for hours on end. i usually fly

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
I also want to be able to make cd's out of my records/tapes and I don't know that this is easily doable in iTunes. Stick a blank CD into the Mac while running iTunes and press record. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE -

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread Richard P.
Another reason for me to get a Mac one day but until then I'll just have to be envious. Richard P. I also want to be able to make cd's out of my records/tapes and I don't know that this is easily doable in iTunes. Stick a blank CD into the Mac while running iTunes and press record.

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Not all MP3 encoding software is created equally. Amen. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
I think it works on a PC running iTunes as well. On Jan 1, 2008 4:21 PM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another reason for me to get a Mac one day but until then I'll just have to be envious. Richard P. I also want to be able to make cd's out of my records/tapes and I don't know

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread E. Riley Casey
Horse manure. A high-bit-rate MP3 is just fine. No need to torture ourselves to reach some imaginary standard of purity. If you need a machine to detect something you can not hear it is really pointless. Music is intended for the enjoyment of humans, not to please machines. There is

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2008-01-01 Thread mike
I've read there are tagging problems with AIFF...do you have any issues? Personally for quality I use FLAC. Mike On Dec 29, 2007 11:50 PM, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 29, 2007, at 11:04 PM, Richard P. wrote: So let me start over. I know next to nothing about recording music

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-31 Thread Steve Rigby
On Dec 30, 2007, at 8:41 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: A friend of mine does TV commercials. She uses Audacity, http://audacity.sourceforge.net/, for sound recording, mixing and editing [AIFF uncompressed], and Final Cut Pro for video. For what it is worth, I have been using Audacity for a few years

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-31 Thread Eric S. Sande
If you are going to take that position then you would not be digitizing from anything less than the original master recording. So as I said before: is this being done for a personal music collection or for the Smithsonian? I thought I was discussing playback of material all ready in the

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-31 Thread Richard P.
Fortunately or otherwise ( ;-) ), I still have most of my hearing. My occasional job requires this as an audio technician. I use a great pair of headphones for fieldwork which also work great at home. They block out the external noise as described below. Remote Audio HN-7506 headphones:

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-30 Thread E. Riley Casey
Use Audacity to record, clean up and edit into individual tracks, then use the EXPORT option to save the files in .WAV format. Convert the .Wav files with iTunes at your preferred bit rate. 128k is the default and is adequate for headphone listening while jogging or plugging into the car

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
So let me start over. I know next to nothing about recording music to iPods. What is the best way to save cassettes/records to an external hard drive for future use (dubbing high quality to CD's), as well as put them into iPod/iTunes for listening. I already have the hardware (USB

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-30 Thread Eric S. Sande
Lossy formats like MP3 have much smaller file sizes because they remove extra information based on psycho-acoustic theory. Yeah. That sounds great--in theory. I don't claim to have golden ears, but I've been around music and recording for quite a while. The First Commandment is: Thou shalt

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-30 Thread rlsimon
There's a thing called Total Recorder (trialfree). Nokia has a media converter that's not2bad. There's also a free dld called SuperC (French company) which has lost of options. You will need, of course, a good cassette player (Check out used Sony WM-D6C with dolbyBC) on eBay (without C you only

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-30 Thread Steve at Verizon
rlsimon wrote: There's a thing called Total Recorder (trialfree). I was a happy Total Recorder user. I used it to capture streaming audio (like Car Talk on WAMU). I recently wanted to get the Pro version, as it had both starting and ending time set function. The High Criteria url is no

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-30 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Now that Car Talk podcasts for free so it is available through iTunes and other podcasting clients why bother. http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_directory.php?type=titlevalue=c Of course the show that doesn't Podcast yet that I want is _Calling All Pets_ and it is on at the most inconvenient

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Rigby
On Dec 30, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: People have gotten used to MP3, also. Well, fool them twice, oh yeah. Well stated. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == *

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-30 Thread b_s-wilk
There's a thing called Total Recorder (trialfree). Nokia has a media converter that's not2bad. There's also a free dld called SuperC (French company) which has lost of options. You will need, of course, a good cassette player (Check out used Sony WM-D6C with dolbyBC) on eBay (without C you only

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-29 Thread mike
Why wma for permanent archive? Mike On Dec 29, 2007 2:12 PM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all for helping me choose an iPod Nano, as well as the turntable converter. Now comes the task of getting my existing music into it. CD's are fine, converting to WMA for permanent

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-29 Thread Richard P.
It seemed to be the default setting for Windows Media Player. I have no particular allegiance to this format other than wanting the files stored on the PC's external hard drive as a backup. Storing them with iTunes is not preferred due to the fact that they are MP3 files and inaccessible

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
It seemed to be the default setting for Windows Media Player. I have no particular allegiance to this format other than wanting the files stored on the PC's external hard drive as a backup. Storing them with iTunes is not preferred due to the fact that they are MP3 files and inaccessible

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-29 Thread Steve Rigby
On Dec 29, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Richard P. wrote: It seemed to be the default setting for Windows Media Player. I have no particular allegiance to this format other than wanting the files stored on the PC's external hard drive as a backup. Storing them with iTunes is not preferred due to the

Re: [CGUYS] Audio Conversion?

2007-12-29 Thread b_s-wilk
It seemed to be the default setting for Windows Media Player. I have no particular allegiance to this format other than wanting the files stored on the PC's external hard drive as a backup. Storing them with iTunes is not preferred due to the fact that they are MP3 files and inaccessible except