Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-21 Thread mike
Silly me. I expected you to actually back up what you said. On Oct 20, 2009 10:13 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 19, 2009, at 3:07 PM, mike wrote: Figured as much, more from Tom the judge of stuff he ha... More Glen Beck style logic from our WFB in Chief. To scoff at breathless reviews

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-20 Thread tjpa
On Oct 19, 2009, at 3:07 PM, mike wrote: Figured as much, more from Tom the judge of stuff he hasn't seen. BTW, what is your point in saying stuff you clearly can't back up? More Glen Beck style logic from our WFB in Chief. To scoff at breathless reviews of products that have not been

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread mike
Not sure what your point is..no one knows what size the image sensor it has, let alone as you say the quality...but you are still dismissing it? Maybe wait till we actually know the quality? I would also rather have a great quality 2mp cam then a so so 5mp cam, but as yet, it is all speculation.

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread chad evans wyatt
Amen --- On Sun, 10/18/09, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:46 PM On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:33 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure what your point is..no one knows what size the image sensor it has, let alone as you say the quality...but you are still dismissing it? Not dismissing it. I do, however, dismiss the megapixel wars as if that is the sole

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread mike
Of course, megapixel count is only one measure and in my opinion not a very important one. On Oct 19, 2009 6:41 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:33 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure what your point is..no o... Not dismissing it. I do,

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread tjpa
On Oct 19, 2009, at 9:38 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Not dismissing it. I do, however, dismiss the megapixel wars as if that is the sole criteria by which to judge the capability of cameras. The optics and CCD in a phone are going to be terrible. To make it not terrible would require a

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread mike
Are you talking about Apple or Verizon? I seem to recall Apple touting a camera in their phone...as well as one in the new ipod nanos. It's called marketing, all companies do it, some better then others, but I don't recall you blasting Apple when they touted their camera. You mentioned all the

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The optics and CCD in a phone are going to be terrible. To make it not terrible would require a much larger phone and nobody is going to do that. Totally true. The purpose of having a camera in a phone is not to take good

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread mike
Well..we carry around little devices that carry our music that can't compete at all with larger more cumbersome devices. I don't think all ipod users are rubes just because they bought one. We carry around laptops that can't compete with desktop units, are all laptop buyers rubes? Or are they

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread tjpa
On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:13 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Ignorant rubes? Probably. However, ignorant rubes are the meat that makers of consumer gear tend to crave the most. Just look at the stats for the number of people who buy stuff from spammers. Here is a post from a totally hopeless

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread tjpa
On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:13 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Could be. But, never underestimate the propensity for the masses to make poor decisions. As I'm constantly reminded on this List. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread mike
Still nothing, Tom? People on the list might be buying android phones and might want to know what you do about them. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:01 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: You mentioned all the things that are missing from android, like what?

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread tjpa
On Oct 19, 2009, at 2:19 PM, mike wrote: Still nothing, Tom? People on the list might be buying android phones and might want to know what you do about them. Good luck fan boi. Buying one would be a neat trick as even the date they will go on sale has not been announced.

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:31 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Well..we carry around little devices that carry our music that can't compete at all with larger more cumbersome devices.  I don't think all ipod users are rubes just because they bought one. I think that you either misunderstood

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread mike
Figured as much, more from Tom the judge of stuff he hasn't seen. BTW, what is your point in saying stuff you clearly can't back up? On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:59 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 19, 2009, at 2:19 PM, mike wrote: Still nothing, Tom? People on the list might be buying

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread chad evans wyatt
. That this is slightly off-topic, but a good chance to air some views, I apologise.  Thank you. --- On Mon, 10/19/09, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread mike
Perhaps I did misunderstand. Point of fact I've never met anyone who thought a phone cam was just as good as a regular camera. The people I have met just believe that at the time, a phone cam is just fine. Same as those with laptops, just fine. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:56 AM,

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread mike
: phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 9:38 AM On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:33 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure what your point is..no one knows what size the image sensor

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-19 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:13 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps I did misunderstand. Point of fact I've never met anyone who thought a phone cam was just as good as a regular camera. The people I have met just believe that at the time, a phone cam is just fine. Same as those with

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-18 Thread tjpa
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Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-18 Thread tjpa
On Oct 17, 2009, at 11:31 PM, mike wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYM-XTqcecfeature=player_embedded Well done. Of course it doesn't mention all the things the Android does not have. Competition will be good.

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-18 Thread mike
What are all the things it doesn't have? On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:02 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 17, 2009, at 11:31 PM, mike wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYM-XTqcecfeature=player_embedded Well done. Of course it doesn't mention all the things the Android does not

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-18 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Well done. Of course it doesn't mention all the things the Android does not have. Competition will be good. Okay, apparently it has a five megapixel image sensor for its camera. So what? Five megapixels on what size sensor?

Re: [CGUYS] android takes on iphone

2009-10-17 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYM-XTqcecfeature=player_embedded Not sure if this is Verizon or Moto or both, but they seem to be going head to head with Apple on their new phone. Whomever their marketing team is, They're also going after ATT. Showing