Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Robert Fox
I got the 3.2 Alpha to work - neat stuff, but not for the faint of heart. The one thing I miss is the Mandrake specific menus )the standard KDE menu config is not very intuitive! I still think we should come up with a way to flag when some major component in Cooker is broken (whilst under

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread John Allen
On Thursday 23 October 2003 02:46, Brad Felmey wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote: Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:0 20 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell

Re: [Cooker] [OT] Misuse of the word gimp

2003-10-23 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 02:47:07PM -0400, Rob wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 14:28, Jaco Greeff wrote: AFAIK, this is really slang, Yes, and as I said, Gimp is one of those words whose American colloquial or vulgar usage in no way resembles its dictionary definition. Why not

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 08:46:36PM -0500, Brad Felmey wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote: Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake uses Photoshop... What a pity!

2003-10-23 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:17, Guy McArthur wrote: Can Gimp 1.3 do these? * rotate by arbitrary # of degrees * free rotate * perspective transform * other warping transforms Apologies for the off-topic. I tried looking for a gimp-1.3 features list. Even old GIMP does these. Or to put it

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Udo Rader
Am Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:03:28 + schrieb Galileo: Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this happen ? It looks like x.2 doesn't mean

Re: [Cooker] Bugzilla update

2003-10-23 Thread Udo Rader
when viewing my buglist from the bugzilla main page, I get an internal server error ... the URL causing it is:

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Simon Oosthoek
I'm sure this was meant as sarcasm, but... On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 05:57:29AM +0200, Han Boetes wrote: Nope, you guys are our test subjects. Our labrats. :) This is the deal. We make packages and you make decent bugreports or you learn to live with the fact cooker is broken. What's the

[Cooker] On preserving gpg, ssh and bookmarks when doing a new installation.

2003-10-23 Thread guran
Hi I have met this question a couple of times, and the answer could be of help to someone who don't trust an upgrade. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread David Coe
Brad Felmey wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote: Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this happen ? It looks like x.2

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread John Allen
On Thursday 23 October 2003 08:34, Udo Rader wrote: Am Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:03:28 + schrieb Galileo: Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:0 20 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Quel Qun
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:57, Han Boetes wrote: David Kobler wrote: Can't we just set a simple standard to TEST YOUR PACKAGES before uploading ^^ them. It seems that simple things are constantly ignored by those who maintain the cooker RPMS. How hard would it be to test your rpms on

[Cooker] Re: [Maintainers] rejected uploads

2003-10-23 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
sorry about this... I think that you are some difficulties to understand when I say something to you. You are not autorize to upload KDE package ! You can send me patch. The last time you broke arts during my holiday. Excuse me? Arts was not broken by me, it was already broken. Sorry

Re: [Cooker] missing xirc2ps_cs.o for pcmia install of 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread Nicolas Pomarede
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Nicolas Pomarede [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello to all, I'm trying to do a network install of 9.2. I'm using a PCMIA adapter from xircom. Doing an install using the network.img or pcmia.img disk, I get an error while trying to load

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:03:28 +0200, Galileo wrote: Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this happen ? It looks like x.2 doesn't mean

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 12:25:03PM +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:03:28 +0200, Galileo wrote: Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020 More that 250 MB of updates excluding

Re: [Cooker] OT: stupid rpm Q ( requires xx || yy )

2003-10-23 Thread Marcel Pol
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:37:11 +0200 (MEST) Svetoslav Slavtchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i'm trying to update firestarter in order to use it under 2.6 test kernels, the original src.rpm requires iptables and we have two packages for iptables one for 2.4 kernel one for 2.6 kernel I

Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003 08:00 schrieb Curtis Hildebrand: I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B, 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Steinar Hauge
torsdag 23. oktober 2003, 12:25, skrev Frederic Crozat: On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:03:28 +0200, Galileo wrote: Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:0 20 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How

Re: [Cooker] Mescalero

2003-10-23 Thread Oden Eriksson
tisdagen den 21 oktober 2003 19.44 skrev Oden Eriksson: Hi Folks. A couple of weeks ago my girlfriend bought the newly released album Mescalero by ZZ Top. Just now I noticed it's copy protected..., annoying. None of the tools in Mandrake seems to be able to rip this CD. What should I do?

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Jos Hulzink
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Steinar Hauge wrote: No, you should continue to provide bug fixes and updates as well!! :-) Thats one of the reasons why I am a club member. But what you should consider, is to use a little bit longer time and have a RC3 cykle also. It is a pity that MDK has got a

Re: [Cooker] Mescalero

2003-10-23 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003, 13:20:47 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: I was able to rip track 2-16 of 1-16 with w2k (yuk) and ez cd extract. It's tragic that no tool exists in Mandrake to accomplish this. But I guess we will see such a tool in the future, maybe at the PLF site? If not one

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Simon Oosthoek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since 9.x, we are now providing ALSO providing updates for bugfixes.. That's very much appreciated! But maybe we should go back and drop all non-security fixes updates ? please no! But having bugfixes in updates should not be a reason to

Re: [Cooker] OT: stupid rpm Q ( requires xx || yy )

2003-10-23 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:37:11 +0200 (MEST) Svetoslav Slavtchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i'm trying to update firestarter in order to use it under 2.6 test kernels, the original src.rpm requires iptables and we have two packages for iptables one for 2.4 kernel one for 2.6

[Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Juan Quintela
john == John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi john What is needed is a committed (and known) BETA, RC john testers. Each one committed to testing a know set of john functionality (hardware software), and regression issues. But that things are already fixed in the Betas RC. Problem is

Re: [Cooker] /var/cache/apache2-mod_ssl should be apache writable

2003-10-23 Thread Oden Eriksson
onsdagen den 22 oktober 2003 17.18 skrev Tibor Pittich: On 22. October 2003 at 16:56, Pascal Cavy wrote: I see error message in the log like : [Mon Oct 20 18:30:42 2003] [error] (120013)APR does not understand this error code: Cannot open SSLSessionCache DBM file

[Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Emmanuel
Hi all, More and more people I talk to about Mandrake are interested in trying it out. Now, I'd like them to be able to try it out without having to install 220MB of updates once it's installed (they're all mainly on dial-up). Would it be possible to re-package the ISO with the updates

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 01:40:54PM +0200, Juan Quintela wrote: john == John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi john What is needed is a committed (and known) BETA, RC john testers. Each one committed to testing a know set of john functionality (hardware software), and regression

Re: [Cooker] Mescalero

2003-10-23 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 23 oktober 2003 13.29 skrev Götz Waschk: Am Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003, 13:20:47 Uhr MET, schrieb Oden Eriksson: I was able to rip track 2-16 of 1-16 with w2k (yuk) and ez cd extract. It's tragic that no tool exists in Mandrake to accomplish this. But I guess we will see

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 10:25, Frederic Crozat a écrit : And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release... excuse me, but most people will test during RC period, but the problem was you release ... how many ... 2 RC !

Re: [Cooker] OT: stupid rpm Q ( requires xx || yy )

2003-10-23 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:37:11 +0200 (MEST) Svetoslav Slavtchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i'm trying to update firestarter in order to use it under 2.6 test kernels, the original src.rpm requires iptables and we have two packages for iptables one for 2.4 kernel one for

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Dave Cotton
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:59, Simon Oosthoek wrote: Why doesn't mandrake try to figure out WHY less people are testing cooker than they'd like instead of blindly blaming people that THEY don't test enough so therefore mandrake is buggy Mandrake is the one trying to make money doing

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:31 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: actually mdk9.2 was quite better than previous releases regarding quality. yes indeed as a user since 5.3 I have seen huge improvements in 9.2 but then the whole 9.x series has for the most part been great. Really those out there

Re: [Cooker] missing xirc2ps_cs.o for pcmia install of 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Nicolas Pomarede [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Hello Guillaume, thanks for your answer. Although I tried the pcmcia.img, sthg must have been wrong with my card, since as you suggested it, I retested this image and it now works (in fact, it's the first time there's a disk that works with

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:43 am, Emmanuel wrote: Hi all, More and more people I talk to about Mandrake are interested in trying it out. Now, I'd like them to be able to try it out without having to install 220MB of updates once it's installed (they're all mainly on dial-up). Would it

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le Jeudi 23 Octobre 2003 16:13, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit : Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 10:25, Frederic Crozat a écrit : And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release... excuse me, but most people will test during RC

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 11:43, Emmanuel a écrit : Hi all, More and more people I talk to about Mandrake are interested in trying it out. Now, I'd like them to be able to try it out without having to install 220MB of updates once it's installed (they're all mainly on dial-up). Would it be

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Pascal Cavy
Le Jeudi 23 Octobre 2003 14:12, Dave Cotton a écrit : On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:59, Simon Oosthoek wrote: Why doesn't mandrake try to figure out WHY less people are testing cooker than they'd like instead of blindly blaming people that THEY don't test enough so therefore mandrake is

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:37 am, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: So do I. That's interest me. I don't think we can do this just with makecd, and some updates are interesting from the install ( I was thinking of kernel updates and better ACPI/SATA support ) sata worked out of the box with silicone

Re: [Cooker] /var/cache/apache2-mod_ssl should be apache writable

2003-10-23 Thread Pascal Cavy
Le Jeudi 23 Octobre 2003 13:43, Oden Eriksson a crit : This is a errata issue? Please file a bug report. try http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6208 -- Pascal Cavy - VMF __ Running 1 day, 3:34, 1 user, load average:

Re: [Cooker] Removing power from Dell laptop locks sysem

2003-10-23 Thread Jaimon Jose
Yes, I can unplug the power cable from my laptop now. But only irritant is, my battery monitor no longer work. I can live with this for the moment. ANother problem I face is with pmsuspend. I could suspend my machine with Mand9.1 by running from a console screen. I can't do that anymore. I

Re: [Cooker] Removing power from Dell laptop locks sysem

2003-10-23 Thread Jaimon Jose
users somehow, an errata maybe? Vince? Can you adjust the nolapic errata to include something along the lines of Laptops supporting Intel Speedstep crash when removing the machine from, or placing it on power or similar. PS: This is using a tmb kernel, although it should work on the

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:37 am, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: So do I. That's interest me. I don't think we can do this just with makecd, and some updates are interesting from the install ( I was thinking of kernel updates and better ACPI/SATA support ) sata worked out of the box with

Re: [Cooker] oggenc problem

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gwenole, your 1.0-11mdk broke it, it seems. Please fix ASAP... I need to rip/encode the new Rush live album... ;o) It's fixed in cooker by gwe. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Curtis Hildebrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B, 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then -probable- 9.2 will work

Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oct 23 12:53:49 localhost kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1404912 Oct 23 12:53:55 localhost kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1407792 Oct 23 12:54:02 localhost kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1410672 I have to investigate that

Re: [Cooker] /var/cache/apache2-mod_ssl should be apache writable

2003-10-23 Thread Tibor Pittich
On 23. October 2003 at 13:43, Oden Eriksson wrote: onsdagen den 22 oktober 2003 17.18 skrev Tibor Pittich: On 22. October 2003 at 16:56, Pascal Cavy wrote: I see error message in the log like : [Mon Oct 20 18:30:42 2003] [error] (120013)APR does not understand this error code: Cannot

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Jos Hulzink
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Simon Oosthoek wrote: Problem is that majority of the people don't test until the last RC or Final :( Bugs reported during cooker Betas are normally fixed. Well, to me the only test I'm interested in doing is a complete install from iso images (on CDRW disks), this

[Cooker] [Bug 3081] [libqt3] libqt forcing AA on X servers that don't support RENDER (all XFree86-3.x and vncserver) crashes Qt apps (including mdkkdm etc)

2003-10-23 Thread [waschk]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3081 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-23-10 12:50 --- OK, for me this seems to be fixed in Cooker with libqt3-3.1.2-15mdk and in 9.2 with the update release 14.1.92mdk, but not with 14mdk from the CD-ROM. ---

Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Spencer
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Curtis Hildebrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B, 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes this is true also I should file a bug report for the scsi being broke in the kernel. I have three machines with two different kinds of scsi cards. All of them crash trying to format the hard drives. So I know this is not isolated in my case. I

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release... excuse me, but most people will test during RC period, but the problem was you release ... how many ... 2 RC

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:56 am, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:37 am, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: So do I. That's interest me. I don't think we can do this just with makecd, and some updates are interesting from the install ( I was thinking of kernel updates

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:31 am, Greg Meyer wrote: I think all you should have to do is replace the packages and then run some scripts that update the package lists in the Mandrake/base directory. gendistrib should be one, but I don't know of the others. you dont need to run gendistrib

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:17 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes this is true also I should file a bug report for the scsi being broke in the kernel. I have three machines with two different kinds of scsi cards. All of them crash trying to format the

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread John Allen
On Thursday 23 October 2003 12:40, Juan Quintela wrote: john == John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi john What is needed is a committed (and known) BETA, RC john testers. Each one committed to testing a know set of john functionality (hardware software), and regression issues. But

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.1.3-80mdk (many undefined symbols)

2003-10-23 Thread Franco Silvestro
This is output doing 'startkde' from xterm (it can't start, after splashscreen it stops , at the end I do 'killall kdeinit' to exit...) cuand good work startkde: Starting up... kbuildsycoca running... DCOP Cleaning up dead connections. kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING:

Re: [Cooker] TWiki Style

2003-10-23 Thread John Keller
Buchan Milne wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: I spent a lot of time tonight applying the style that Buchan created on the main page to the rest of the pages in the Cooker Twiki. Hopefully this gives the whole site a more polished, professional feel. In addition, I set up the Web template so

Re: [Cooker] Removing power from Dell laptop locks sysem

2003-10-23 Thread Jaco Greeff
Jaimon Jose wrote: Can you test with a 2.4.22.13mdk or later kernel to see if it is fixed? I would have to make a new livecd to test ... Tried 2.4.22.18mdk from updates. Same results. And with the nolapic option passed to the kernel? (Configuration - Configure your computer - Boot - DrakBoot)

Re: [Cooker] Removing power from Dell laptop locks sysem

2003-10-23 Thread Jaco Greeff
Jaco Greeff wrote: Jaimon Jose wrote: Can you test with a 2.4.22.13mdk or later kernel to see if it is fixed? I would have to make a new livecd to test ... Tried 2.4.22.18mdk from updates. Same results. And with the nolapic option passed to the kernel? (Configuration - Configure your computer -

Re: [Cooker] /var/cache/apache2-mod_ssl should be apache writable

2003-10-23 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 23 oktober 2003 15.10 skrev Tibor Pittich: On 23. October 2003 at 13:43, Oden Eriksson wrote: onsdagen den 22 oktober 2003 17.18 skrev Tibor Pittich: On 22. October 2003 at 16:56, Pascal Cavy wrote: I see error message in the log like : [Mon Oct 20 18:30:42 2003]

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:56 am, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:37 am, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: So do I. That's interest me. I don't think we can do this just with makecd, and some updates are interesting from the install ( I was thinking of kernel

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Brad Felmey
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 22:57, Han Boetes wrote: This is the deal. We make packages and you make decent bugreports or you learn to live with the fact cooker is broken. Have you thought even a little bit about how wrong this approach is? The only way you're going to get _good_ testing is for

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Brad Felmey
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 02:58, David Coe wrote: If I had just installed a site-full of Mandrake 9.2 workstations, I would be less than impressed to have this size of update to do so soon after. I _do_ support a site full of workstations. It's amazing what cron and a squid cache will do. --

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread ef2
I think that we need a lot more RCs, and on the contrary they should be more frequent, a lot more frequent. Updating a cooker machine is not the same than installing the distribution from scratch, considering the updating scripts do not have the same effects. For example, there should be 1 RC per

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Robert Fox
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 15:37, Brad Felmey wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 22:57, Han Boetes wrote: This is the deal. We make packages and you make decent bugreports or you learn to live with the fact cooker is broken. Have you thought even a little bit about how wrong this approach is?

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Robert Fox
Great idea - I was thinking the same. At least for the download version (assuming it's too late for the packaged version) R.Fox On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:43, Emmanuel wrote: Hi all, More and more people I talk to about Mandrake are interested in trying it out. Now, I'd like them to be able

Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Larry Nguyen
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Curtis Hildebrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8522B, 9.2rc2 worked nice (it's then

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread ef2
Here are some suggestions for 9.2 - for the public release, you should release 9.2.1 isos that include the updates AND also corrects the problem with LG drives. I don't think Mandrakesoft can afford a public release of ISOs that kill CD drives. That would be very bad for Mandrake reputation.

Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread illogic-al
On Thursday 23 October 2003 08:34 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Curtis Hildebrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've had confirmations that with another LG model, the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B, 9.2 worked nice (e.g. did NOT do any damage to the cdrom drive). Also, with the HL-DT-ST CD-ROM

Re: [Cooker] Bugzilla update

2003-10-23 Thread John Keller
Warly wrote: Lea Gris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe if mod_gzip was onabled on qa.mandrakesoft.com this would make page loading much faster and less bandwidth hungry. mod_gzip is not yet ported to apache2 Besides, it's more the query time (on the server side) and the rendering time

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread illogic-al
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 11:44 pm, David Kobler wrote: Can't we just set a simple standard to TEST YOUR PACKAGES before uploading them. It seems that simple things are constantly ignored by those who maintain the cooker RPMS. How hard would it be to test your rpms on a recently

Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 04:59 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Hi, Several people are reporting that installing the 9.2 totally fried their LG cdrom drive. Luis Alves on cooker is reporting that problem on an IBM PC 300 PL machine, with a LG CRD-8400B. On MandrakeClub an article[1]

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:41 am, Brad Felmey wrote: I _do_ support a site full of workstations. It's amazing what cron and a squid cache will do. or a local repository in my case. Download once and have it available for everybody. --

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:40 am, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: don't play with HPT ! :) AFAIK they don't have native SATA chip yet, the cards are plain PATA 133 controlers with SATA bridges, and acording to lkml are suported by the hpt374 driver (PATA133) svetljo thanks promise is doing

[Cooker] [Bug 6084] [acpi] ACPI block new hardware search in boot process

2003-10-23 Thread [sgozzi]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6084 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-23-10 12:50 --- I've installed cooker kernel 2.4.22-18 4GB and now battery control works and I get no more errors in booting procedure The problem of 6 CDR is still the same...

[Cooker] [Bug 6176] [kdebase] A white line appear in konqueror

2003-10-23 Thread [cpjc]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6176 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-23-10 12:50 --- Hi, I think I've got part of the clue : I can reproduce it. Open http://www.linux-france.org and reduce the window to have a scroll bar. When the page is loaded,

[Cooker] [Bug 6187] [drakxtools] connection to Free Dégroupé with sagem fast800 to be adapted

2003-10-23 Thread [tvignaud]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6187 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-23-10 12:50 --- VCI is already set to 23 if one choose sagem and to 24 if one choose sagem_dhcp Encapsulation is already set to 6 if one choose sagem and to 4 if one choose

[Cooker] [Bug 4483] [Bugzilla] bugzilla is not able to validate package version

2003-10-23 Thread [warly]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4483 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-23 12:29 --- Try to add a comment --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-23 13:48 --- Created an attachment (id=933) --

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ef2 wrote: Here are some suggestions for 9.2 - for the public release, you should release 9.2.1 isos that include the updates AND also corrects the problem with LG drives. I don't think Mandrakesoft can afford a public release of ISOs that kill

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Austin
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 11:26, Buchan Milne wrote: I wonder if it might be possible to only remaster the first ISO, as I think most updates were to packages which are on CD1 Mmm, that would be nice. Austin -- Austin Acton Synthetic Organic Chemist,

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:17 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Thanks guys for all your hard work. If you need help troubleshooting the scsi problems I have three downed servers that I can test on. could you fill in a bug report with oops message if possible or any error message availlable on

[Cooker] [Bug 6212] [firestarter] New: doesn't start under kernel-2.6

2003-10-23 Thread [galia]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6212 Summary: doesn't start under kernel-2.6 Product: firestarter Version: 0.9.1-2mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread ef2
I wonder if it might be possible to only remaster the first ISO, as I think most updates were to packages which are on CD1 (or do we split kde*-devel off onto CD2 or 3?). Regards, Buchan That's sound a very good idea : remaster the CD1 with the new CD1 packages, and leave the updates that

[Cooker] network icon on deskop?

2003-10-23 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I find the articles at http://www.open-mag.com are normally quite pathetic, they place *huge* significance on a small setting (and don't seem to notice that the same settings are available on every single distribution they have bothered to test).

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
On Thursday 23 October 2003 03:49 am, Simon Oosthoek wrote: I'm sure this was meant as sarcasm, but... On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 05:57:29AM +0200, Han Boetes wrote: Nope, you guys are our test subjects. Our labrats. :) This is the deal. We make packages and you make decent bugreports or you

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ef2 wrote: That's sound a very good idea : remaster the CD1 with the new CD1 packages, and leave the updates that are on the other CDs on the updates mirrors. All updates must be left on the mirrors. What about people that have already installed

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: I'd be happy if there were simply a rollback directory on the mirrors. In other words when a package is updated, yesterday's version rolls over to the rollback directory. Also, the reason I said yesterday's is often

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Lea Gris
ef2 wrote: I wonder if it might be possible to only remaster the first ISO, as I think most updates were to packages which are on CD1 (or do we split kde*-devel off onto CD2 or 3?). Regards, Buchan That's sound a very good idea : remaster the CD1 with the new CD1 packages, and leave the updates

Re: [Cooker] Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 10:25, Frederic Crozat a écrit : And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release... excuse me, but most people will test

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lea Gris wrote: That's sound a very good idea : remaster the CD1 with the new CD1 packages, and leave the updates that are on the other CDs on the updates mirrors. Wouldn't this be a dependancy break between updated CD1 + old CD2 CD3 ? Only if

[Cooker] [Bug 6212] [firestarter] doesn't start under kernel-2.6

2003-10-23 Thread [galia]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6212 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-23 14:32 --- Created an attachment (id=936) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=936action=view) another upstream fix this patch is not related to kernel 2.6, but is

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread ef2
All updates must be left on the mirrors. What about people that have already installed from the FTP mirrors (which also aren't likely to change ...). But, if a new CD1 were made, user's would automatically get the benefit of them anyway (since urpmi would get the package from the CD first).

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Thu Oct 23 18:55 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: I'd be happy if there were simply a rollback directory on the mirrors. In other words when a package is updated, yesterday's version rolls over to the rollback directory. Also, the reason I said yesterday's is often there are 2-3 quick

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Levi Ramsey wrote: On Thu Oct 23 18:55 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Excellent idea, Buchan... you are a veritable fountain of such. Just not enough time to implement them ... at the moment ... ;-) - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 23 oktober 2003 19.11 skrev Levi Ramsey: On Thu Oct 23 18:55 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: I'd be happy if there were simply a rollback directory on the mirrors. In other words when a package is updated, yesterday's version rolls over to the rollback directory.

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread Eric Fernandez
Buchan Milne wrote: Only if 50MB is not enough to absorb the dependancies ... But do you really need to remaster CD1 into a 700MB iso ? Do the corrected packages increase the size that much ? For the download edition, if you need some space, why not dropping the kernel marcelo ? Do really

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-23 Thread ef2
That's sound a very good idea : remaster the CD1 with the new CD1 packages, and leave the updates that are on the other CDs on the updates mirrors. Wouldn't this be a dependancy break between updated CD1 + old CD2 CD3 ? No because all hdlist files are on CD1 and would be regenerated by

[Cooker] Terminal button doesn't work in ICEWM

2003-10-23 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
Since KDE is broken, am temporarily using ICEWM. At the bottom of the screen is the menu button, Terminal button, and Mozilla button. Terminal button doesn't bring up a terminal window, although there is some disk activity. V.

Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives

2003-10-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Larry Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My LG dvd works fine with beta*, rc*. I don't have final ISOs to test. I did a net-install from ftp. But did you use your CDROM in 9.2 final? That seems to toast a drive as well. Here's the model HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B -- Guillaume Cottenceau -

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