> > aside from the obvious reasons (ID's are declared only once, classes
> > more than once) I'm interested to hear the lists opinion on the
> > potential pitfalls of developing markup with CSS that uses
> > only classes
> > for layout purposes.
>
> in practice there is no real difference between
Chris Heilmann:
> It is a matter of keeping your CSS code clean and maintainable.
did I say "go write spaghetti"? The OP is not allowed to use IDs.
Whether he writes clean code is between him and his maker. The point
is, just using classes will make no difference to the way the website
*funct
Hi,
Has anyone had any experience with IE 6.0 begin very slow trying to display
a very large number of list items? I have a navigation menu made up of
nested ul's, there are about 300 li's and then some javascript to hide the
menu items which aren't needed. Every browser except IE 6.0 on Windows
Hi all,
i'm trying to create this search form field without success! Pratically i want
to display the SUBMIT button
closed to the INPUT field without using ABSOLUTE positioning..!
Actually there's a a little space beetwen them .. and i don't want to show this
space..
The HTML/CSS is:
http://w
Keith Bloom wrote:
...The text sizes is a difficult one as the designers of the site
have specified the pixel sizes. It's a long story.
Well, it's not your problem then. No need to make the story any longer.
(just another designer that doesn't understand the web)
The infoNav fix worked but the
Does anyone have a definitive list of elements that can be contained within an
anchor tag...
eg:
this could be i think
Thanks for your help in advance...
Stu.
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> > It is a matter of keeping your CSS code clean and maintainable.
>
> did I say "go write spaghetti"? The OP is not allowed to use IDs.
You did:
Quote:
in practice there is no real difference between id's and classes
:EndQuote
This is a wrong statement, to make it even remotely true it shoul
Hi
I'd appreciate any feedback on this homepage (to be used as a template
for further pages) in terms of cross-browser compatibility (not
IE/Mac) and accessibility. Text should scale reasonably well (although
the high-contrast layout option isn't yet finished)
http://www.designate-dev.co.uk/paul/
On 6/24/05, stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have a definitive list of elements that can be contained within
> an anchor tag...
This isn't a CSS question, so you should probably have asked it
elsewhere: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=OffTopic
However, see: http://www.w3.org/TR/
Hi
I am having trouble with divs again, I cant submit a link to the site as
I have signed an ND contract. Basically, I have some divs set-up:
The left div is floated left, and the right, right. The widths don't
conflict with the containing div and are set, but the right div k
Hello Paul,
Friday, June 24, 2005, 12:12:00 PM, you wrote:
P> Hi
P> I'd appreciate any feedback on this homepage (to be used as a template
P> for further pages) in terms of cross-browser compatibility (not
P> IE/Mac) and accessibility. Text should scale reasonably well (although
P> the high-cont
Hi,
Can someone explain the huge amount of extra space that IE6 is putting in this
page...
http://colinmac.port5.com/bluegreybox1-1/bluegreybox/index.html
It looks fine in Firefox and Opera, and I don't want to break *them* to fix IE,
but I need it to work in IE.
TIA
Colin
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It would help to see the actual CSS.
Borders, Margins, Padding???
On Jun 24, 2005, at 7:47 AM, wayne wrote:
Hi
I am having trouble with divs again, I cant submit a link to the site
as
I have signed an ND contract. Basically, I have some divs set-up:
The left div is flo
I've been a hard core Web developer since 1992. It has only been in the
last 3 years that I've attempted to scatter CSS here and there to make a
few declarations or styles. In the last 6 months, it seems that CSS has
been practically rammed down my throat and I'm tired of spending tons of
time
Hi Melissa. I have had the same experience, but quite honestly I
don't think a training course would teach you all the anomalies of
CSS... I have reverted to tables for many sites now and breath much
easier and get very similar results as using CSS... although I still use
stylesheets for many a
http://www.designate-dev.co.uk/paul/
It looks cool (I was in that area a week ago :D), but I don't fancy the
logotype and there's also some issue with the shadow in the bottom right
corner.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm looking for a 3-5 day INTENSE CSS course that takes me from the
bare
bones to the elaborate so I can once and for all know why my CSS is
broken
and how to fix it. >
Can anyone offer suggestions/recommendations.
Does SUNY have any web development courses? Shor
> Web Developers need to be more worried about
> content than tweaking CSS code
>
A web developer's JOB is to worry about the code!
A content editor's job is to worry about content.
Paul.
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On 6/23/05, Philip Wills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> The following appears to work at least for the small test case:
>
> li {clear: both; border: 1px solid white;}
> .question { margin-right: 200px; }
> .button { width: 15%; float:right; }
Phil,
That border did the trick. I don't
I agree with Mr. Sparber on this one. CSS is not a fast learn. Its a fun
learn though, if you approach it that way. Its also not something that you
learn on the fly just to accomplish a site that you need to get into css. It
takes work and dedication to learn this, but its totally worth it.
4CSS
> Does SUNY have any web development courses? Short of that, my very
> personal opinion is that CSS is a lot like medicine in that you can
> memorize all the properties - but success is based more on your
> diagnostic skills, which is a learned art. The best advice you'll
> likely get is to step ba
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From: "4css" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [css-d] Seeking intense CSS Training
I agree with Mr. Sparber on this one. CSS is not a fast learn. Its a fun
learn though, if you approach it that way. Its also not something that you
learn on the fly just to ac
T. R. Valentine wrote:
> HTML: http://www.plano.lib.il.us/testing/work.html (includes a link to the
CSS)
> CSS: http://www.plano.lib.il.us/testing/test.css
...
> BACKGROUND IMAGES
>
> In Opera/WIn (8.01 and 7.54), most of the background images do not
> display (see Firefox for intended appearance)
Paul wrote:
The one thing I can't get my head around is why the footer dividing
line isn't centered in FF (its fine in IE). If anyone has any ideas on
that then it'd be greatly appreciated.
could it be the display:inherit in the .footline property?
dwain
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> In addition to the aforementioned, I had quite a big success getting
> our junior developers up to speed with proper resources, one of them
> being the Dan Cederholm's Web Standards Solutions book:
> http://www.simplebits.com/publications/solutions/
>
> It is a wonderful hands-on book which allo
On 6/24/05, Shane Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In addition to the aforementioned, I had quite a big success getting
> > our junior developers up to speed with proper resources, one of them
> > being the Dan Cederholm's Web Standards Solutions book:
> > http://www.simplebits.com/publication
BACKGROUND IMAGES
In Opera/WIn (8.01 and 7.54), most of the background images do not
display (see Firefox for intended appearance) as intended. In Opera
7.54, the problem is only with the images on the left, but in Opera
8.01 even the right side does not display. Any ideas why?
I only had a qui
Ingo Chao wrote:
> but what is that bug? Never seen it. Looks like as if /*1,2,3,4*/ and
> the nesting divs are required, hmm.
>
> In this minimal case, a position:relative would fix it too. The doubling
> of the green line when the link gets the focus is only visible next to
> the float.
...
> A
OK, so far I've been verbally attacked by a snotty 20YO and given a host
of sites, book titles and email lists.
My apologies for even asking. I have TONS of books. SUNY is not the
answer, I'm not sitting through 16 weeks of classes with 18 yo's. Reading
the list and visiting the sites are all v
Thanks for the feedback so far. The page now validates but I'm still
haveing problems with the footer line.
I've cleaned up the method for it so that you can see what probs are
happening now - its not centered in FF (even though its containing
element has text-align: center;) and its centered but
Christian Heilmann wrote:
On 6/24/05, Shane Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In addition to the aforementioned, I had quite a big success getting
our junior developers up to speed with proper resources, one of them
being the Dan Cederholm's Web Standards Solutions book:
http://www.simplebits.c
Thank you for the speedy reply, Terry.
Pardon my ignorance, but I am unsure as to how exactly this would correct
the issue mentioned? I'm not having an issue with the DT, DD layout in
heights or positioning, merely the background colour. And even more oddly
is when I try to specify an !important so
t94xr.net.nz webmaster wrote:
- Original Message - From: "4css" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [css-d] Seeking intense CSS Training
I strongly recommend Topstyle (Lite or Pro) if you want to learn CSS
coding.
www.bradsoft.com
I know a few of you have it and use it and live by i
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My apologies for even asking. I have TONS of books.
> I was looking to immerse myself in a 3-5 day course, AWAY from work and
> interruptions.
I totally hear you on the interruptions front. What I did was set
everything aside for a few days, left the office on a mini
> OK, so far I've been verbally attacked by a snotty 20YO and
> given a host
> of sites, book titles and email lists.
> I was looking to immerse myself in a 3-5 day course, AWAY
> from work and
> interruptions.
>
> Thanks
> Melissa Bishop
Melissa-
You might try:
http://www.dvinci.com/tr
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 10:43:31AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote..
> I was looking to immerse myself in a 3-5 day course, AWAY from work and
> interruptions.
Well, this still isn't a 3-5 day course, but perhaps you could get
some useful help from a SUNY colleague - Jeanine Meyer at SUNY
On 24 Jun 2005, at 8:47 pm, wayne wrote:
I am having trouble with divs again, I cant submit a link to the site
as
I have signed an ND contract. Basically, I have some divs set-up:
The left div is floated left, and the right, right. The widths don't
conflict with the conta
Sorry but it still works only with the blue and black stylesheets and
not with the brown one. And only on IE/WIN.. Mozilla switches fine.
any other thoughts?
Riddle wrote:
Whoops, I forget to give link.. sorry.:
riddle.jogger.pl
On 6/24/05, Riddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ALA Style Swi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Pardon my ignorance, but I am unsure as to how exactly this would correct
the issue mentioned? I'm not having an issue with the DT, DD layout in
heights or positioning, merely the background colour.
Its not an height or positioning issue with your layout, but any
d
This is a very odd bug in Firefox, which has been fixed in the
development version, but not in the current distribution version (1.0.4).
If you have a div with the property "overflow: auto" inside a floated
div, then when you resize the screen or cause Firefox to repaint the
screen the overfl
Jan Brasna wrote:
> >>BACKGROUND IMAGES
[...]
> I've been experiencing this problem since downloading Opera8 - every
> layout we made had this issue, and it was not connected with
> positioning/stretching, even background under visible/displayed text
> wasn't applied. The background (dis)appeared
Christian Heilmann wrote:
this is off-topic though and better suited for the evolt list
Indeed, most of this discussion was very much off-topic.
Please confine crusades to the off-list community.
Thanks.
To respond to the concerns of the original post, the one pitfall I
can see in develop
OK I got the switcher working. thanks for your help.
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Bruno Fassino schrieb:
A Magik Creeping Border? Anyone an idea?
I haven't any idea of what exactly this bug is... With a slightly modified
version of your code, the problem is there since the beginning (no need to
have a link and to click it), and moving another window over the "extra"
border,
http://www.geekcruises.com/top/ww01_top.htm
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"Better Documentation Through Science"
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Roland Swingler schrieb:
This is a very odd bug in Firefox, which has been fixed in the
development version, but not in the current distribution version (1.0.4).
If you have a div with the property "overflow: auto" inside a floated
div, then when you resize the screen or cause Firefox to repa
Site (draft): http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/vyc/
This site displays as I want it in Firefox 1.0.4/Win: header text is
the right size, the menu displays compactly on the left. I'm using
suckerfish dropdowns, basically.
In IE6/Win, the issues are:
* menu borders double up between ite
Hello list,
I have searched the Wiki and Google, but have not found an answer to what would
seem to be a common design issue.
I have a div with a fixed height/width, and I would like to align text to the
bottom. I tried "vertical-align: bottom" and "vertical-align: text-bottom" with
no success.
Yeah, this is the problem I had on http://www.alterform.com
It seems that it is a somewhat common bug that happens on gamespot.com and
anandtech.com.
It also happens when a block is taken out of, or put back into the flow,
such as if you are toggling the display of a block item.
It's fixed in Dee
Ah, thank you, I misunderstood the purpose of that. Any other time I've
dealt with lists involving IE its always worked, but I have never used a
DL before so I was unsure wot exactly was causing the issue.
Thank you for the link, when I get back home I shall try to apply that.
Cheers,
D
> [EMAIL
Some idiot (namely, me) wrote:
#content a.external {color: blue;}
p.first a {color: green;}
If the first rule uses a class instead of an ID, however, and the
rules still appear in that order, the second rule will override the
first, and your external link in the first paragraph will now be
m
Vertical-align is for table-cell elements, you can use absolute
positioning and bottom: 0 for this effect.
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I was looking to immerse myself in a 3-5 day course, AWAY from work and
interruptions.
the best suggestion i've read was the one to get the eric meyer books
and work the lessons in them and ask the list for help when you have a
problem. thanks v.
dwain
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, so far I've been verbally attacked by a snotty 20YO and given a host
of sites, book titles and email lists.
My apologies for even asking.
On behalf of the list, I apologize for any verbal attack you may have
endured. Please, folks, respect your fellow list member
> Pardon my ignorance, but I am unsure as to how
> exactly this would correct
> the issue mentioned?
It does though. You haven't even tried it.
I downloaded your page. The style you had was this:
dd, dt { padding: 0 10px; }
I changed it to this:
dd, dt { padding: 0 10px; height: 1%; }
And it wor
Hi there.
I am having trouble making this simple nested list work.
here is where i got the list from:
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic2/horizontal02.htm
It works great like this, but it is not completed. I want to add a whole
sublist to "Item Two."
seems like it would be easy - just copy
From: saul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:53:44 -0400
> the center content area is not flowing properly in IE Windows
>(at least from the screen shots some friends have sent me). It appears
>to bump down to below the left column content.
>http://www.inventionshow.com/developmen
On 6/24/05, jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It works great like this, but it is not completed. I want to add a whole
> sublist to "Item Two."
> seems like it would be easy - just copy the sublist from "Item One" and
> paste into the of "Item Two." right?
> http://tct2005.com/wp/
http://vali
From: Geoffrey Alan Colbath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It seems like the search form (which, unfortunately, is
>still a table) isn't clearing the floated div sidebar, unless I try and
>mess with the width of the sidebar, in which case the border of the
>containing div dissapears--but only around the flo
From: "Augusto Murri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pratically i want to display the SUBMIT button
>closed to the INPUT field without using ABSOLUTE positioning..!
>
>Actually there's a a little space beetwen them .. and i don't want to show
>this space..
The space occurs in IE/Win, not in Gecko or Opera
From: "Colin McAllister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Can someone explain the huge amount of extra space that IE6 is putting in this
>page...
>
>http://colinmac.port5.com/bluegreybox1-1/bluegreybox/index.html
Well, I don't know if you'll consider it "breaking" the other browsers, but if
you can get rid
Hi all,
I'm stumped again... and I thought I was starting to get a little bit of an
idea...;-)
I'm trying to have a php script of a calendar in a div (#calendar) nested
within another div (#edit) display on the right of the text and the text to
wrap around the div#calendar. But for some reas
> The page I'm working with is here:
>http://www.organicgrowers.org.au/index3.php
> The CSS here: http://www.organicgrowers.org.au/styles/organic.css
> I got it to work in a page with only the div#edit and nothing else here:
> http://www.organicgrowers.org.au/cal.php
>
> div#calendar{
I'm not sure
G'Day Melly :)
I used to be like youwell I still am in many respect..
Im a hard core web developer..and its my passion that flow through my veins
every day..
I have been coding web since i was 14. and im now 23...
I lived off tables like a ravenous beast and only built for IE and NS...
A
At 11:31 AM 25/06/2005, Larry Israel wrote:
> The page I'm working with is here:
>http://www.organicgrowers.org.au/index3.php
> The CSS here: http://www.organicgrowers.org.au/styles/organic.css
> I got it to work in a page with only the div#edit and nothing else here:
> http://www.organicgrowers.
Vicki Skinner (Stebbins) wrote:
At 11:31 AM 25/06/2005, Larry Israel wrote:
I'm not sure, but it might be because the end quotation mark is
missing on the calendar id:
Yep, that was it... thank you so much!
It's always some simple thing that seems to give the most grief.
HTML validators a
Hi all again,
I've just about got this page working how I want it but am having trouble
in Opera 8.0.
The calendar div is acting very strange...
On this page: http://www.organicgrowers.org.au/cal_test.php I've put the
word 'Events' at the bottom of the div and the navigation links for the
c
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