RE: [css-d] div tags showing line break in firefox

2005-09-29 Thread Peter Williams
From: praveen vejandla I have a web page that uses CSS and number of div tags. it shows is IE as 4 div segments per row (horizontally) then next 4 in second row. But when I am using firefox , everything is shown vertically in one column itself. A div is a block level element, Firefox

Re: [css-d] Can you do this with CSS? Layers and divs?

2005-09-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
I have six images with the first one (image A) being a combination of image on top and a text description below it. When you mouseover the remaining 5 images (with no text descriptions), I want the main image A to change for each of the other 5 images. Same for the text description below

Re: [css-d] cross-browser display problems

2005-09-29 Thread david
Pringle, Ron wrote: I also get a bunch of errors/warnings for using a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]subject=The Indigo Connection Website. Seems it does not like the last part where it fills in the subject for the user. Again, just a personal preference but I want to be able to fill in the

[css-d] Stretching Too Much in IE

2005-09-29 Thread christianz
I mentioned this page earlier and some problems I'd been having with it but I got the majority of those problems worked out on my own (so fortunately nobody responded to my prior questions) but now I need some real help. In NS 7.2 everything fits perfectly without the need for horizontal

[css-d] CSS Swag: Multi-Column Lists

2005-09-29 Thread Paul Novitski
I'd like to draw your attention to an article of mine in issue 204 of A List Apart: CSS Swag: Multi-Column Lists http://alistapart.com/articles/multicolumnlists/ Your comments are welcome. Thanks, Paul __ css-discuss [EMAIL

Re: [css-d] Stretching Too Much in IE

2005-09-29 Thread Rob Cochrane
In NS 7.2 everything fits perfectly without the need for horizontal scrolling but in IE6 it stretches out beyond the natural right border: http://www.christianziebarth.com/rent/mockup.html Hi, I have viewed it on WinXP SP2 in : IE 6 NN 8 Opera 8.5 FF 1.5 and even in Amaya 9.2.2 and it is

Re: [css-d] Stretching Too Much in IE

2005-09-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.christianziebarth.com/rent/mockup.html I would like to get it to work in IE the way that it is in Netscape. Change to: #brownish { position: absolute; top: 10px; left: 10px; width: 178px; overflow: hidden; z-index: 2;} #grayish { position:

Re: [css-d] Many requirements

2005-09-29 Thread Bob Easton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to set this page up so that they two gray boxes (Iron Giant is Good, I Like Ray Liotta) stretch with the width of the browser window while keeping the same amount of space inbetween the two boxes *and* so that the two gray lines below How?s The Weather

[css-d] Site check: Onlinetools.org redesign

2005-09-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
Hi there, I would appreciate feedback on the upcoming redesign of onlinetools.org: http://onlinetools.org/indx.php -- Chris Heilmann Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/ Binaries: http://www.onlinetools.org/

Re: [css-d] Site check: Onlinetools.org redesign

2005-09-29 Thread Hershel Robinson
I would appreciate feedback on the upcoming redesign of onlinetools.org: Well then we'll see what we can do. :) http://onlinetools.org/indx.php When it loaded in FF Win 2K something very weird happened--I first saw the Stuff / Tools section and then as I was starting to read it, it

Re: [css-d] Site check: Onlinetools.org redesign

2005-09-29 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 29/09/05, Hershel Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate feedback on the upcoming redesign of onlinetools.org: Well then we'll see what we can do. :) http://onlinetools.org/indx.php When it loaded in FF Win 2K something very weird happened--I first saw the Stuff /

[css-d] Re: Online course to learn CSS

2005-09-29 Thread Laura Carlson
I took some cascading style sheets classes in 2002 though the International Webmasters Association/HTML Writers Guild. The first class started with the basics and the second one taught how to do real things. The last one, an advanced course taught by Eric A. Meyer, was very challenging and

Re: [css-d] Site check: Onlinetools.org redesign

2005-09-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
http://onlinetools.org/indx.php When it loaded in FF Win 2K something very weird happened--I first saw the Stuff / Tools section and then as I was starting to read it, it disappeared. Same thing in IE Win 2K. That's not so good. Ditto in Opera 8.5/Win2k. Even worse, I was initially

Re: [css-d] Site check: Onlinetools.org redesign

2005-09-29 Thread matthijs
One *small* detail: I didn't realise there was more information hidden behind the navigation until I read the comments here. Why? Because I often/almost always look at the status bar of my browser to look were links take me ( that's probably a result of years of surfing and being taken all over

Re: Re: [css-d] Mac and Linux checks please.

2005-09-29 Thread BJ
http://seeklocally.com/europe/ Well, it appears this fix fixed IE6 without breaking anything else- I'd appreciate one more go-round by the Safari and Konqueror crowd to make sure we finally have a winner. And THANK YOU ALL once again. Oh, and Philippe, re: More on 'hasLayout':

RE: [css-d] Site check: Onlinetools.org redesign

2005-09-29 Thread Shane Porter
seemed to have happened after trying to eliminate the Google Ads overlay that was obscuring text, but since I can no longer see the Stuff/Tools section, I can't repeat. Yes, that seems to be an Opera Quirk, any idea how to prevent that? it seems that even with the latest opera the

[css-d] Dropdown menu with scrollbar (overflow: auto)?

2005-09-29 Thread Arno @ Raketnet
Hi list Is it possible to create a css-based dropdown menu with a scrollbar? I'm revamping a website which has some (very) long submenu lists, which I don't all want to show when the dropdown drops down. Can the overflow: auto specification be added to a ul selector? TIA Arno

[css-d] a bug in IE 6.0??

2005-09-29 Thread victor NOAGBODJI
Souldn't border-bottom be applied to inline element since IE 5?? It doesn't seem to work with IE 6.0 there (I don't have IE 5to try the code). // code (excerpt) #header a { color: #6c6c6c; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 1px solid #6c6c6c; } ... div id=header dl class=icones dtimg

Re: [css-d] Site check: Onlinetools.org redesign

2005-09-29 Thread Christian Montoya
Great, now the links don't open at all??? I'm using FF 1.5 Beta __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org --

Re: [css-d] Dropdown menu with scrollbar (overflow: auto)?

2005-09-29 Thread Martin Heiden
Arno, on Thursday, September 29, 2005 at 15:32 Arno @ Raketnet wrote: Is it possible to create a css-based dropdown menu with a scrollbar? I'm revamping a website which has some (very) long submenu lists, which I don't all want to show when the dropdown drops down. Can the overflow: auto

Re: [css-d] Many requirements

2005-09-29 Thread Gene Falck
Hi Bob, You wrote: 7) Try your hardest to never use SPAN again. It's a very sloppy way of styling text. Using well structured IDs, classes, and chosing the right CSS selectors is much cleaner. Hmm. I have used SPAN for some things that I haven't thought up any better ways to do. The biggest

[css-d] Image based nav that meets AAA standards?

2005-09-29 Thread Dan_MailLists
Hi all, (I hope this doesn't come thru twice - I sent it first from the wrong email acc) does anyone know a technique to allow me to use a graphical nav bar, but that is Bobby AAA compliant - as well as the usual standards compliant and cross-browser compatible? I was going to go with

Re: [css-d] Site check: Onlinetools.org redesign

2005-09-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Christian Heilmann wrote: Hi there, I would appreciate feedback on the upcoming redesign of onlinetools.org: http://onlinetools.org/indx.php Looks nice... I'd include a redundant navigation system at the very top of the document in case JS is disabled. So users don't have to scroll to find

RE: [css-d] Stretching Too Much in IE

2005-09-29 Thread David Agnew
Using Mac OS 10.4.2, your page looks fine in Safari 2.0.1 looks good in Firefox 1.5 b1 - but the yellow lower portion of the chipotle box (only) protrudes to the right about 6px looks good in IE 5.2.3 - but to the right of both headlines (Iron Giant / I like Ray) is a white,

Re: [css-d] Many requirements

2005-09-29 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 29/09/05, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, You wrote: 7) Try your hardest to never use SPAN again. It's a very sloppy way of styling text. Using well structured IDs, classes, and chosing the right CSS selectors is much cleaner. Hmm. I have used SPAN for some things that I

Re: [css-d] Image based nav that meets AAA standards?

2005-09-29 Thread Al Sparber
From: Dan_MailLists [EMAIL PROTECTED] does anyone know a technique to allow me to use a graphical nav bar, but that is Bobby AAA compliant - as well as the usual standards compliant and cross-browser compatible? The designer is the ultimate determinant of whether and how a site meets

[css-d] Select box widths in IE cut short

2005-09-29 Thread Charlie Law
Hi, I am having problems styling select boxes. The site I am building has a fixed design that leaves little flexibility for the size of select boxes. I have set the widths using pixels in CSS which is fine and dandy. The problems start occurring when the content is larger than the select boxes

Re: [css-d] Image based nav that meets AAA standards?

2005-09-29 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 29, 2005, 10:13:32 AM, Dan_MailLists wrote: I did have a go at replacing the spacer gifs with real menu gifs - and making them invisible in the CSS to allow me to do the rollover via CSS - but that causes problems in Firefox.

Re: [css-d] Site check: Onlinetools.org redesign

2005-09-29 Thread Felix Miata
Christian Heilmann wrote: I would appreciate feedback on the upcoming redesign of onlinetools.org: http://onlinetools.org/indx.php I guess people don't pay any attention to sponsors anyway. :-p http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/onlinetoolsnew1.png -- Cast your cares on the Lord and He will

Re: [css-d] Image based nav that meets AAA standards?

2005-09-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
does anyone know a technique to allow me to use a graphical nav bar, but that is Bobby AAA compliant - as well as the usual standards compliant and cross-browser compatible? The designer is the ultimate determinant of whether and how a site meets accessibility guidelines. There are too

Re: [css-d] Image based nav that meets AAA standards?

2005-09-29 Thread Al Sparber
From: Christian Heilmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] does anyone know a technique to allow me to use a graphical nav bar, but that is Bobby AAA compliant - as well as the usual standards compliant and cross-browser compatible? The designer is the ultimate determinant of whether and how a site

Re: [css-d] Image based nav that meets AAA standards?

2005-09-29 Thread Alex Robinson
Nice context job. In any event, I won't post on the CSS-analD list because you've obviously talen this subject off-topic and tired of being bistch- slapped by the management (for lack of a better term). Right. Next person to post on this thread will be toast. This thread was never on topic

Re: [css-d] Image based nav that meets AAA standards?

2005-09-29 Thread Al Sparber
From: David Dorward [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 29/09/05, Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dan_MailLists [EMAIL PROTECTED] The designer is the ultimate determinant of whether and how a site meets accessibility guidelines. There are too many nuances (and opinions). That said, your best bet

Re: [css-d] Image based nav that meets AAA standards?

2005-09-29 Thread Dan_MailLists
Thanks all for the advice, tips and links. The em-sized images were interesting, but I don't think that's going to help with this case. And I see that Christian has a point that maybe shooting for AAA standards is maybe a aiming a little high. To clarify though, the AAA standards I was

Re: [css-d] Flash, Video, CSS -- Can they live together?

2005-09-29 Thread Ben Curtis
On Sep 28, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Peter Beckman wrote: I'm trying to build (as I mentioned earlier) a nice XHTML template which designers can then use CSS to make pretty. Unfortunately, some want to embed video and/or Flash into the page. Crap. Now I have to add more divs and I have to add

[css-d] IE/Mac 5.2 CSS Hiding From 5.1/5.0?

2005-09-29 Thread Tribou, Eric
Does anyone know of any CSS hacks to hide CSS from IE/Mac 5.1 and 5.0 but applies the CSS in IE/Mac 5.2? I hacked together something that works, but it's a per-rule hack and requires the same rule be repeated 3 times in a row. Is there anything cleaner/better that I can use? Details on this are

Re: [css-d] Site check: Onlinetools.org redesign

2005-09-29 Thread Christian Montoya
Wow, more problems... testing Opera 8, first of all, huge FOUC (flash of unstyled content). Should fix that. second: when opening a section, that google ad box doesn't reposition itself, until I scroll. once again, Opera 8. Christian Heilmann wrote: I would appreciate feedback on the

Re: [css-d] Centering Floated Images

2005-09-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Matt Harris wrote: I have a group of floated images which wrap to the next line as the page width changes. Inevitably, a few stranglers will be on the bottom row, and of course, they will be floated left. Is there a way to center these images and achieve the same wrapping effect? Don't float

Re: [css-d] Can you do this with CSS? Layers and divs?

2005-09-29 Thread Christian Montoya
Some food for thought... http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo.html http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo2.html Maybe these can be applied to the situation? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [css-d] Dropdown menu with scrollbar (overflow: auto)?

2005-09-29 Thread Arno @ Raketnet
Thanks Martin, I've been wondering about a good navigational structure, but there's somuch I need to list. Any advice then on what strikethruis/strikethru could be strikethruthe best/strikethru a good css navigation approach when you need to list about 300 items? Arno snip If you want my

RE: [css-d] Explanation of Spans

2005-09-29 Thread Pringle, Ron
I have been sing CSS for the last year and I feel fairly versed in getting some rather complex sites up and validated. One thing I never really wrapped my head around just yet is what circumstances you would use a span style and what it is exactly. SNIP Anyways, please pass any

Re: [css-d] Dropdown menu with scrollbar (overflow: auto)?

2005-09-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
On 9/29/05, Arno @ Raketnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Martin, I've been wondering about a good navigational structure, but there's somuch I need to list. Any advice then on what strikethruis/strikethru could be strikethruthe best/strikethru a good css navigation approach when you need

Re: [css-d] Flash, Video, CSS -- Can they live together?

2005-09-29 Thread Peter Beckman
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Ben Curtis wrote: On Sep 28, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Peter Beckman wrote: I'm trying to build (as I mentioned earlier) a nice XHTML template which designers can then use CSS to make pretty. Unfortunately, some want to embed video and/or Flash into the page. Crap. Now I have

[css-d] Scalable 2-col Product Display

2005-09-29 Thread L. Robinson
Greetings, I need to list products in such a way that the number displayed per row will adjust according to screen resolution set with a thumbnail picture on the left and the item details on the right for each product displayed. Sounds simple enough. Should look like this: Thumb | Item No.

RE: [css-d] Explanation of Spans

2005-09-29 Thread CJ Larson
This goes a bit off topic from the original post, but you can change the first letter of a page without a span. The p:first-letter works well, and you are free to replace p with another definition. To get a bit more complicated, you can also select the first p of the page and then the first

Re: [css-d] Centering Floated Images

2005-09-29 Thread David Laakso
Matt Harris wrote: I have a group of floated images which wrap to the next line as the page width changes. Inevitably, a few stranglers will be on the bottom row, and of course, they will be floated left. Is there a way to center these images and achieve the same wrapping effect? You might

RE: [css-d] Explanation of Spans

2005-09-29 Thread Pringle, Ron
Good point! I forgot to mention that I have to support IE5 as well, which doesn't support the first letter pseudo element, which is why I opted to use span instead. My stats show that IE5 has dropped off in usage on our site considerably in the past 6 months though, so maybe I can get away with

Re: [css-d] Scalable 2-col Product Display

2005-09-29 Thread matthijs
Maybe something like .partdesc { display: block; margin: 0 0 0 100px; padding: 0 0 0 0; } __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/

RE: [css-d] Scalable 2-col Product Display

2005-09-29 Thread Pringle, Ron
I need to list products in such a way that the number displayed per row will adjust according to screen resolution set with a thumbnail picture on the left and the item details on the right for each product displayed. Sounds simple enough. Should look like this: Thumb | Item No.

Re: [css-d] Flash, Video, CSS -- Can they live together?

2005-09-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Peter Beckman wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Ben Curtis wrote: On Sep 28, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Peter Beckman wrote: I'm trying to build (as I mentioned earlier) a nice XHTML template which designers can then use CSS to make pretty. Unfortunately, some want to embed video and/or Flash into the

[css-d] Unstable footer in IE

2005-09-29 Thread Dave Dash
I put together this page: http://www.myrenewell.com/balancesheet/2005/August and am having trouble with the footer. On my computer in IE and FF it looks great. On my coworker's computer it would inconsistently float up into the content region div id=content / after reloading it might look fine

[css-d] CSS input

2005-09-29 Thread Abyss Information
Hiya all Greetings from Downunder. Is there anyway to control how to style an input? what I mean by this is tell the difference between a button input and a textbox input? because im stlying with input { widht:xxxpx; } but that is affecting the buttons as well as the text

Re: [css-d] Flash, Video, CSS -- Can they live together?

2005-09-29 Thread Donna Casey
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: Isn't the video/Flash content, not display gunk? Thus, it *should* be added into the XHTML markup of your page, using the element that was made for it: object. Then, just use CSS to style or position the object as you like. but isn't there an issue with swfs,

Re: [css-d] Flash, Video, CSS -- Can they live together?

2005-09-29 Thread Christian Montoya
But when I'm designing XHTML for N+1 CSS files made by different designers, and some who want to add video and/or flash in addition to their images+CSS, I can't think of how to implement it, other than to give the designers the ability to put custom Javascript files up and auto-include them

Re: [css-d] Flash, Video, CSS -- Can they live together?

2005-09-29 Thread Al Abut
but isn't there an issue with swfs, movies and forms rising to the top? I've struggled with this issue in designing, choosing to avoid the problem from the start by never allowing popup menus to overlap flash content or forms. I know you can hide stuff, but I find it easier just to design

Re: [css-d] CSS input

2005-09-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
Hiya all Greetings from Downunder. Is there anyway to control how to style an input? what I mean by this is tell the difference between a button input and a textbox input? CSS 2 attribute selectors help, but are not supported by MSIE http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html#q10

[css-d] Suckerfish menus expanding slowly Mac/IE 5.2

2005-09-29 Thread css student
Hey ya'll I have a suckerfish menu going that works fairly well accross every 5.0+browser apart from Mac IE 5.2 http://www.unausa.org/site/pp.asp?c=fvKRI8MPJpFb=872193 There are some minor presentation glitches which I think I can work out. My main issue is speed: it takes a long time to load

Re: [css-d] Scalable 2-col Product Display

2005-09-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
L. Robinson wrote: Should look like this: Thumb | Item No. . | Product Name . | Price . | Inventory . | Etc. so forth This should get you going: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_example_01_02.html http://dev.l-c-n.com/IEW/float-formatting-context.php regards

[css-d] IE Gaps under horiz navs drivin me cwazy

2005-09-29 Thread cFA
Hey folks, Im havin a bear of a time trying to remove two approx 5px gaps under my navcontainers (top nav and bottom) here is the dev page: http://aenonfiredesign.com/clients/pce/templates/exam.php both of the unwanted gaps are below each nav. you can check the page in firefox or safari to see

RE: [css-d] Explanation of Spans

2005-09-29 Thread Jeff Rechten
I have been sing CSS for the last year and I feel fairly versed in getting some rather complex sites up and validated. One thing I never really wrapped my head around just yet is what circumstances you would use a span style and what it is exactly Anyways, please pass any explanations on. Thanks

[css-d] pre

2005-09-29 Thread David Laakso
I have been going a bit goofy trying to keep the pre stuff from going goofy. Particularly in the 'evil one' ('Accessibility' mode, ignore font sizes specified on Web page checked, @ text size-largest). Seeking suggestions and/or referrals to long term in-patient psychiatric care facility. Or