Re: [css-d] Show/Hide UL not working in IE

2006-05-09 Thread Daniel Pape
Thanks to francky for the reply. I wanted to document my solution to this issue. There was a weird quark between the onMouseOut javascript I was using on the position:absolute ULs and the box content they were layering over. Then the mouse would intersect one of these element even while still

Re: [css-d] Div jumps in IE (two examples)

2006-05-09 Thread francky
francky wrote: [...] Anyway, thanks for helping me how to help. francky For completeness: Glenn send me an off list mail he did mean it in a sarcastic way, and offered a sorry. - Accepted, end of story! :-) Still I think the crux is in the IE-only styles in the first file, which aren't in

[css-d] link to a style sheet in the body of a page

2006-05-09 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all, Just wondering if anyone could let me know how to link to an external style sheet in the body of the page, using a method that validates and works for browsers back to Netscape 6, Opera 7, IE 5.0 on PC, IE 5.2 on Mac? Would appreciate your help. Paul

Re: [css-d] link to a style sheet in the body of a page

2006-05-09 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks for your reply Ian. I've got a navigation include coming from a third party. They've got their own style sheet for this and it is a part of the include. The include features in the body of the page and it all works OK using the CSS link way, but it doesn't validate. This is because you

Re: [css-d] link to a style sheet in the body of a page

2006-05-09 Thread Richard Allsebrook
From http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/links.html#edef-LINK This element defines a link. Unlike A, it may only appear in the HEAD section of a document, although it may appear any number of times. Although LINK has no content, it conveys relationship information that may be rendered by user

Re: [css-d] link to a style sheet in the body of a page

2006-05-09 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks Ian, Yes, it does work with the full URL: it works fine in the body, but doesn't validate. The reason for including it in the body is so I can have a single include come from the third party, being called in the body of the document, which contains all HTML and styles for their nav.

Re: [css-d] link to a style sheet in the body of a page

2006-05-09 Thread Conny Andersson
On 5/9/06, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if anyone could let me know how to link to an external style sheet in the body of the page, using a method that validates and works for browsers back to Netscape 6, Opera 7, IE 5.0 on PC, IE 5.2 on Mac? Well... as most people

Re: [css-d] link to a style sheet in the body of a page

2006-05-09 Thread Els
Paul Collins wrote: The reason for including it in the body is so I can have a single include come from the third party, being called in the body of the document, which contains all HTML and styles for their nav. This would keep things a little cleaner instead of me adding their style sheet

Re: [css-d] Transition from Box Model Hack to Conditional Comments

2006-05-09 Thread Dagmar Noll
Having not received any feedback on my request for help understanding the box model hack, I'm going to refocus my question/approach. I wrote: Good morning. My goal is to get rid of all the IE hacks on a web site and feed MS conditional comments instead. My trouble is getting rid of the

Re: [css-d] Undocumented Properties: -x-background-x-position and -x-background-y-position

2006-05-09 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On May 9, 2006, at 10:31 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: While noseying around the CSS for https://addons.mozilla.org/ firefox/ two settings in https://addons.mozilla.org/css/cavendish/template.css drew my attention: #key-menu { /* snipped */ -x-background-x-position: 0pt;

Re: [css-d] Undocumented Properties: -x-background-x-position and -x-background-y-position

2006-05-09 Thread Dave Fisher
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:46:01PM +0900, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: I can't see those two properties in the actual stylesheet. Oops, thanks for putting me right. I assume you were looking at it through Gecko's DomInspector, which displays those in the computed style pane. Possibly

Re: [css-d] Transition from Box Model Hack to Conditional Comments

2006-05-09 Thread Ingo Chao
Dagmar Noll wrote: Can anyone recommend an article that explains /how/ this hack actually works in detail? In other words, I'm look for an article that isn't focused on achieving a specific goal in a web page, but rather one that describes the mechanics of the hack. Dagmar, Tantek's

[css-d] Help: IE issue

2006-05-09 Thread Mark Fellowes
Sorry, but I've made some progress (fixed my side navigation). However my most recent issue is a background issue in IE. If you look at the page the 2 boxes on the right companies and users have a white background applied to the p. The box containing them have a background color. In Firefox

Re: [css-d] Firefox adds padding in strict mode?

2006-05-09 Thread Scott Sauyet
David Rose wrote: I had to switch over to a XHTML strict DTD to resolve some CSS layout issues with IE, but this created a lot of space around many of the elements (maybe all?) in [Firefox] [ ... ] http://winnetka.technicelixir.com/forums/index.php I can see the different amount of whitespace

Re: [css-d] Firefox adds padding in strict mode?

2006-05-09 Thread Eric Vann
Just checked your site in both FireFox and Safari (latest version of both) and saw no appreciable difference in how each was able to display the site. So I'm unaware that there is a problem, unless both of these browsers share the same bug.

Re: [css-d] Help: IE issue

2006-05-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mark Fellowes wrote: [...] In Firefox the box background is evident between the two paragraphs. In IE (6.x) though the background doesn't show through in between the paragraphs. http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp8.html It's not the background that's missing - it is the 'margin-doubling on

Re: [css-d] Help: IE issue

2006-05-09 Thread Mark Fellowes
Thank you Georg! Now corrected. I guess it's a good time to spend more time learning about IE and the related hacks. Another thing I'm seeing in the page in IE is that the side navigation once IE first pulls it up has to much line height between the links. Once the mouse is hovered over the

Re: [css-d] IE - Firefox subtleties

2006-05-09 Thread Tihomir Georgiev
On 5/9/06, Dave Goodchild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I am nearing completion on the following site: http://www.web-buddha.co.uk/sandbox/karen/ ...am leaving final browser testing until the site looks cool in Mozilla (there are some text sising issues in IE that I am aware of but not

Re: [css-d] Undocumented Properties: -x-background-x-position and -x-background-y-position

2006-05-09 Thread Jan Brasna
Certainly a bug in the Web Developer Toolbar, since one naturally assume that it is displaying snippets from the author's CSS, not from Gecko's internal representation of it. I lost my assumptions some time ago, when I found some weird CSS lines in my stylesheets when viewed via WebDev so I'm

[css-d] center/position multiple images on a single 'line' ... which method best?

2006-05-09 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi all, my goal is simple. with html of, div id=container div id=img1 div id=img2 div id=img3 /div/div/div/div to layout three images on a line, equally spaced, centered on a page. the images are

Re: [css-d] Problem balancing margins and paddings

2006-05-09 Thread Tihomir Georgiev
Hi Mitko! I left out what I thought was irrelevant to your questions from the quotes. Read on. On 5/9/06, Mitko Gerensky-Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The #quotes appear to have a tiny top margin even though I am trying to neutrialize the #content's top padding with the #quotes top

Re: [css-d] proper location of css rules in html file

2006-05-09 Thread Don Hinshaw
What if you proposed putting all of your content inside a div with a specific ID, and then you preface all of your rules with that ID. Your content could potentially inherit some of their rules, but you could explicitly set all the values you want to use. --G That is a great idea!

[css-d] height of horizontal bar in IE6

2006-05-09 Thread Marc Slingerland
Hi there, I've been experiencing this problem for some time, but just subscribed to css-d; I hope some of you can help! I wanted more flexibility than the hr element gave, so I defined a spacer bar, with simple html: div class=spacer/div (could use spans, instead) The relevant css: .spacer {

[css-d] Postion : relative + absolute

2006-05-09 Thread Marcelo Wolfgang
Hi list, I'm developing a web site ( you can check it out at http://work.grillo.tk/vilarigno/home.html ), and I'm pretty rusted with css ( almost 8 month without coding ), and I need a little help I have an element, the badge that says faça seu pre cadastro, that I need to be over some other

Re: [css-d] Postion : relative + absolute

2006-05-09 Thread Marcelo Wolfgang
Actually, after futher playing with it, I found out that my problem is that I've centered the page layout, and the badge doesn't move to the middle according to the layout as the browser resolution gets bigger. Is there a workaround this ? TIA again Grillo On 5/9/06, Marcelo Wolfgang [EMAIL

Re: [css-d] Disappearing Breadcrumb!

2006-05-09 Thread Nick Grossman
Thanks Brian, That did the trick: http://stage.pps.org/info/newsletter/ Thanks again, Nick __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub --

Re: [css-d] Postion : relative + absolute

2006-05-09 Thread Marcelo Wolfgang
Thanks Scott, your sugestiond did the trick; and I think I understood the concept here too. And KJ's thanks for spotting that, doesn't made any difference, but it was wrong Thanks all who helped. Grillo On 5/9/06, Marcelo Wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I'm developing a web site

Re: [css-d] Resizing in IE and footer in Firefox

2006-05-09 Thread francky
francky wrote: [...] Time for Exercise! :-) http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-mcic.html (Link to article included.) Tom wrote: I have not yet had a chance to insert the tabbed navigation into your layout to make sure that it does not cause problems. But clearly,

[css-d] Help with CSS Design - www.getintobanking.com

2006-05-09 Thread Si - Jujumi
Hi, Well I think I'm getting there.. We've built a simple but effective dynamic back end.. Lets you add catagories, and articles using a WYSIWYG editor. I'm stuck with what I can to the design overall. I'd love to hear suggestions.. Maybe there are some forums / competitions we could run? The

Re: [css-d] Firefox adds padding in strict mode?

2006-05-09 Thread David Rose
Scott Sauyet wrote: I can see the different amount of whitespace in IE and FF, although neither looks particularly wrong to me. It's not wrong per se, but all that extra white space actually seems to make it harder to read and definately much more viewable in IE. I don't see anything glaring

Re: [css-d] height of horizontal bar in IE6

2006-05-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Marc Slingerland wrote: I wanted more flexibility than the hr element gave, so I defined a spacer bar, with simple html: div class=spacer/div [...] This worked fine in FF, where I develop, and I thought nothing of it until a friend tried to access the site with IE. I've since tried it

[css-d] Difference Between IE and Gecko on Empty Divs

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Williams
I'm experiencing a weird space difference between IE and Gecko (FF specifically) and want to confirm it with the group. Do IE and Gecko handle empty divs differently? I have a case where there are a couple of empty divs (programmatically generated) at the bottom of the page. It looks like IE

Re: [css-d] Disappearing Breadcrumb - PPS

2006-05-09 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/05/09 16:18 (GMT-0400) Nick Grossman apparently typed: That did the trick: http://stage.pps.org/info/newsletter/ Now that that's fixed, geriatric IE users could stand a bit of accessibility consideration. Here's a look: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/nickgr1.png My Firefox default is here

Re: [css-d] Difference Between IE and Gecko on Empty Divs

2006-05-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Williams wrote: Do IE and Gecko handle empty divs differently? I have a case where there are a couple of empty divs (programmatically generated) at the bottom of the page. It looks like IE provides space for them, and Gecko collapses them. Not sure which behavior I'd consider

Re: [css-d] IE problem using graphic as underline

2006-05-09 Thread Micky Hulse
David McFarland wrote: Is there a workaround for this? Hehe, I was just working on the same thing... funny you mention it cause now I may hold-off on implementing. Anyway, a good place to look on ALA for more info is the comments section for the articles: http://snipurl.com/q8xf I noticed

[css-d] [OT] Need Contribute Publishing server resources

2006-05-09 Thread Karl Jacobs
Howdy, For those of you using CPS, I need references for Perl scripts used in conjuction with CPS for moving files and such. Since the Adobe takeover, their forums are pretty useless, and Google searches haven't turned up anything. Please don't respond back to the list... thanks! -- Karl

Re: [css-d] Disappearing Breadcrumb! disappearing content too

2006-05-09 Thread francky
Nick Grossman wrote: Thanks Brian, That did the trick: http://stage.pps.org/info/newsletter/ Thanks again, Nick Hi Nick, I've a dessert for you: I noticed an other IE-problem which needs a trick. At scaling the IE-browser font-size to maximum, the page is dropping down to the bottom of the

Re: [css-d] Print CSS: Suppressing UA Headers/Footers

2006-05-09 Thread Jan Brasna
Is there a way to suppress browser headers, footers, folios, etc Just a few hours ago: http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/74302 -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net __

Re: [css-d] Print CSS: Suppressing UA Headers/Footers

2006-05-09 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On May 10, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Tim Martens wrote: Is there a way to suppress browser headers, footers, folios, etc that works in Firefox and Safari? No. The user decides. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com

Re: [css-d] Print CSS: Suppressing UA Headers/Footers

2006-05-09 Thread francky
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On May 10, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Tim Martens wrote: Is there a way to suppress browser headers, footers, folios, etc that works in Firefox and Safari? No. The user decides. Right, but for special occasions you can offer a downloadable look-a-like document.

Re: [css-d] IE problem using graphic as underline

2006-05-09 Thread francky
Micky Hulse wrote: David McFarland wrote: Is there a workaround for this? Hehe, I was just working on the same thing... funny you mention it cause now I may hold-off on implementing. Anyway, a good place to look on ALA for more info is the comments section for the articles:

Re: [css-d] Print CSS: Printing partial Title attributes without link text

2006-05-09 Thread Tim Martens
On May 9, 2006, at 5:34 PM, francky wrote: Tim Martens wrote: Hi All, I have this: div class=description Get business plan templates a href=link_location title= View project: SPD.101 Strategy Complete[P]/a /div And would like to print this: Get business plan templates [P]

Re: [css-d] center/position multiple images on a single 'line' ... which method best?

2006-05-09 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi all, just fyi. re: my goal is simple. with html of, div id=container div id=img1 div id=img2 div id=img3 /div/div/div/div to layout three images on a line, equally spaced, centered on a page. with a bit of

Re: [css-d] IE problem using graphic as underline

2006-05-09 Thread Micky Hulse
francky wrote: Just figured out a workaround, but it's too late now for making a good looking description / testpage. Promise: within a few days! I am looking forward to seeing your results! :D Thanks for sharing Francky! Cheers, Micky

[css-d] Table and inheritance?

2006-05-09 Thread Anastasios Angelidis
I have my classes defined as below... I then decorate my table like so table class=thinOrangeBorder The problem is when I add another table with that table it inherits the css regardless if the class is set or not and I do not want it to. What is the issue? Thanks table.thinOrangeBorder {