Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread G.Sørtun
Too much back and forth based on assumptions in this thread, me thinks. What matters is that what gets released works reasonably well for all end-users no matter what, so I'll just add the following (old) article... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_36.html ...where I'll especially

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread david
G.Sørtun wrote: Too much back and forth based on assumptions in this thread, me thinks. What matters is that what gets released works reasonably well for all end-users no matter what, so I'll just add the following (old) article... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_36.html ...where

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread Chetan Crasta
I hate to point this out, but it would be unfortunate if those reading this thread consider this an example of good use of CSS and HTML: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_36.html The page has 9 (yes 9!) wrapper or container divs that serve no semantic purpose. Not to mention the empty

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread G.Sørtun
On 04.12.2010 11:38, Chetan Crasta wrote: I hate to point this out, but it would be unfortunate if those reading this thread consider this an example of good use of CSS and HTML: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_36.html The page has 9 (yes 9!) wrapper or container divs that serve no

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread Dejan Kozina
This sounds interesting (as in: a brand new way to fail). Is there a pattern or a rule of thumb regarding which script passes the block, and do you perhaps know if the ruleset is something that comes with the proxy or has been created anew? djn david wrote: Well, my employer has 1600 staff

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread Chetan Crasta
@Barney: I didn't say that the script would automatically identify those elements that require hasLayout. I don't think such a script exists. I've made two example webpages which require zoom to work in IE7: one with zoom:1 applied using CSS and the other with zoom applied with javascript.

[css-d] crashing redmond

2010-12-04 Thread David Laakso
Signature link crashes IETester 6/7/8 on Mac OS X 10.4 running Parallels XP. I find this delightful and rather amusing:-) . Checks on native boxes appreciated. Best, ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss

Re: [css-d] crashing redmond

2010-12-04 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Doesn't crash, but looks complete and utter c...@p in IE7 under Win/XP at Ctrl-0 size, but suddenly snaps into place at the first Ctrl-minus. ** P. David Laakso wrote: Signature link crashes IETester 6/7/8 on Mac OS X 10.4 running Parallels XP. I find this delightful and rather

Re: [css-d] crashing redmond

2010-12-04 Thread Chetan Crasta
Looks ok in IE8 on Windows 7, IE8 compatibility view on Win 7 , IE7 on Windows XP (MS VHD image) , IE6 standalone by evolt on Winxp . In IE6 the site has a very simple layout, which I suppose is by design. ~Chetan On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:28 PM, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote:

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread Alan Gresley
On 4/12/2010 9:38 PM, Chetan Crasta wrote: I hate to point this out, but it would be unfortunate if those reading this thread consider this an example of good use of CSS and HTML: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_36.html The page has 9 (yes 9!) wrapper or container divs that serve no

Re: [css-d] crashing redmond

2010-12-04 Thread Alan Gresley
On 5/12/2010 12:58 AM, David Laakso wrote: Signature link crashes IETester 6/7/8 on Mac OS X 10.4 running Parallels XP. I find this delightful and rather amusing:-) . Checks on native boxes appreciated. Best, ~d Checking on Window7. With IE9 beta. IE9 fine. IE8 comp mode fine. IE7 comp

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread G.Sørtun
@Georg: The hellip is converted to three periods in Firefox 3.6's View Source and in Firebug. This looks like a bug in the browser. Probably... ... I wouldn't know since I never view source on web pages in Firefox/Firebug/whatever. I use Opera for that since it doesn't convert, add or

[css-d] Possible IE9 float bug?

2010-12-04 Thread Justin Stressman
I've been mocking up a page, and it seems to work as expected in all the other major browsers I've tested it in... but in IE9, the other content in the same div doesn't wrap around the left floated div as I'd expect it to. http://nnb.me/daily/ (The meaning(s) section under the daily word section

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread Chetan Crasta
I think this article is relevant to this discussion: http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/10/22/javascript-will-save-us-all/ I agree with it completely. ~Chetan On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Alan Gresley a...@css-class.com wrote: On 4/12/2010 9:38 PM, Chetan Crasta wrote: I hate to point

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread David Laakso
On 12/4/10 10:04 AM, Chetan Crasta wrote: I think this article is relevant to this discussion: http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/10/22/javascript-will-save-us-all/ I agree with it completely. ~Chetan That's nice. I have a red pencil box. I like it a lot. Best, ~d PS It is not a

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
David Laakso wrote: PS It is not a list policy but bottom posting ... is appreciated. By some : others prefer to read what the respondent has to say, rather than having to wade through recycled material before learning anything new. Philip Taylor -- Not sent from my i-Pad, i-Phone,

Re: [css-d] [+] hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/12/04 18:56 (GMT+0530) Chetan Crasta composed: After reading your explanation I still don't think the huge amount of non-semantic code is justified. Sure you're site might work perfectly in Internet Explorer 3 running on Windows 95 with a Pentium 200 Mhz and a 14.4 kbps modem, but does

Re: [css-d] crashing redmond

2010-12-04 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Felix Miata wrote: Any thoughts on this conversion from table layout exercise? orig: http://cornerstonebaptistofhc.org/about.html new: http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Tmp/cbchc-about-n.html Great to see Ephesians 2:20 as text, not graphic, but Philippians 2:5 deserves better ALT text than

Re: [css-d] [+] hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/12/04 15:28 (GMT) Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) composed: David Laakso wrote: PS It is not a list policy but bottom posting ... is appreciated. By some : others prefer to read what the respondent has to say, rather than having to wade through recycled material before

Re: [css-d] [+] hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Felix Miata wrote: Feel free to play elsewhere if list policy bothers you so much you feel unable to adhere to it. List policy doesn't bother me at all. Rules are for the guidance of the wise and the blind obedience of the foolish. Philip Taylor -- Not sent from my i-Pad, i-Phone,

Re: [css-d] crashing redmond

2010-12-04 Thread david
David Laakso wrote: Signature link crashes IETester 6/7/8 on Mac OS X 10.4 running Parallels XP. I find this delightful and rather amusing:-) . Checks on native boxes appreciated. Doesn't crash IE6 on XP running under VirtualBox under Linux. -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity,

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: hasLayout triggering best practice

2010-12-04 Thread david
Sorry - I have no idea of the details behind their filtering. Dejan Kozina wrote: This sounds interesting (as in: a brand new way to fail). Is there a pattern or a rule of thumb regarding which script passes the block, and do you perhaps know if the ruleset is something that comes with the

Re: [css-d] [+] crashing redmond

2010-12-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi David, Signature link crashes IETester 6/7/8 on Mac OS X 10.4 running Parallels XP. I find this delightful and rather amusing:-) . Checks on native boxes appreciated. Working fine in ie7/8/9 on Win7 And ie6 on Virtual PC -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org |

Re: [css-d] [+] crashing redmond

2010-12-04 Thread David Laakso
On 12/4/10 6:52 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Hi David, Signature link crashes IETester 6/7/8 on Mac OS X 10.4 running Parallels XP. I find this delightful and rather amusing:-) . Checks on native boxes appreciated. Working fine in ie7/8/9 on Win7 And ie6 on Virtual PC -- Regards, Thierry

Re: [css-d] [+] crashing redmond

2010-12-04 Thread Alan Gresley
On 5/12/2010 11:24 AM, David Laakso wrote: *What still puzzles me* is Philip mentioned the page loads totally wacko in IE/7 but snaps in place at [minus] -1 font-scaling. Anyone care to share what might cause that? I mentioned it also. IE7 mode in IE9 on Window7.