Re: [css-d] Creating your own stylesheet for a website

2009-05-04 Thread Maarten Sander
Sarah,

 I go to a website fairly regularly and their styles are horrible.
 It's just too painful for me to look at anymore. Is there away for me
 to create a Stylesheet for it and have my browser automatically
 override there styles? I know to many of you this might sound
 horrible but don't worry no designers feelings will get hurt... I'm
 sure that no designers were used in making the site. 

If you are using Firefox, you could try the Stylish add-on:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2108

Stylish allows easy management of user styles. User styles empower your
browsing experience by letting you fix ugly sites, customize the look of
your browser or mail client, or just have fun. With an online repository
at userstyles.org, you don't even need to know how to write styles
yourself; just a couple clicks and the chosen style is applied. Stylish
is to CSS what Greasemonkey is to JavaScript, and unlike other methods
of using user styles, most styles take effect immediately.

Regards,

Maarten
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Re: [css-d] Creating your own stylesheet for a website

2009-05-03 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On May 3, 2009, at 3:44 AM, david wrote:

 I go to a website fairly regularly and their styles are horrible.  
 It's just too painful for me to look at anymore. Is there away for  
 me to create a Stylesheet for it and have my browser automatically  
 override there styles? I know to many of you this might sound  
 horrible but don't worry no designers feelings will get hurt...  
 I'm sure that no designers were used in making the site.

 I go to lots of those. No time to create a user style sheet for each.
 My fast and dirty method makes the hideous and grotesque instantly
 readable, functional, and usable:
 Opera browserviewstyleuser mode.

 Firefox with Web Developer Toolbar: Ctrl-Shift-L turns off all  
 stylesheets.

Firefox without any add-on: View menu  Page Style  No style.

Safari also has such an option. Turn on the debug menu, the option is:
Develop menu  disable styles

This is an interesting experiment:
http://lab.arc90.com/2009/03/readability.php
Because face it, for the average user, user stylesheet are hard, very  
hard.

To keep the whole thing relatively on topic:

1. the ability to disable page styling is interesting to analyse how  
muchyour page is structurally sound (does the page depends on page  
styling/css to make sense ?).

2. Question: how much do you think about the possibility of userstyles  
interfering with your stylesheets when you develop a site ?


Philippe
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Re: [css-d] Creating your own stylesheet for a website

2009-05-02 Thread david
David Laakso wrote:
 Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 I go to a website fairly regularly and their styles are horrible. It's just 
 too painful for me to look at anymore. Is there away for me to create a 
 Stylesheet for it and have my browser automatically override there styles? I 
 know to many of you this might sound horrible but don't worry no designers 
 feelings will get hurt... I'm sure that no designers were used in making the 
 site. 
 
 I go to lots of those. No time to create a user style sheet for each.
 My fast and dirty method makes the hideous and grotesque instantly 
 readable, functional, and usable:
 Opera browserviewstyleuser mode.

Firefox with Web Developer Toolbar: Ctrl-Shift-L turns off all stylesheets.

Or you could think of it as an opportunity to redesign it a bit yourself 
and maybe approach them about doing it for a fee ...

-- 
David
gn...@hawaii.rr.com
authenticity, honesty, community
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Re: [css-d] Creating your own stylesheet for a website

2009-05-02 Thread David Laakso
david wrote:
   
 Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 
 I go to a website fairly regularly and their styles are horrible. It's just 
 too painful for me to look at anymore. Is there away for me to create a 
 Stylesheet for it and have my browser automatically override there styles? 
 I know to many of you this might sound horrible but don't worry no 
 designers feelings will get hurt... I'm sure that no designers were used in 
 making the site. 
   
 I go to lots of those. No time to create a user style sheet for each.
 My fast and dirty method makes the hideous and grotesque instantly 
 readable, functional, and usable:
 Opera browserviewstyleuser mode.
 

 Firefox with Web Developer Toolbar: Ctrl-Shift-L turns off all stylesheets.

 Or you could think of it as an opportunity to redesign it a bit yourself 
 and maybe approach them about doing it for a fee ...

   


Approach them for doing it for a fee? Seeing as most of them are my own 
sites that will hardly do.
~d
PS I hate the Firefox Web Developer Toolbar.
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[css-d] Creating your own stylesheet for a website

2009-05-01 Thread Atkinson, Sarah
I go to a website fairly regularly and their styles are horrible. It's just too 
painful for me to look at anymore. Is there away for me to create a Stylesheet 
for it and have my browser automatically override there styles? I know to many 
of you this might sound horrible but don't worry no designers feelings will get 
hurt... I'm sure that no designers were used in making the site. 
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Re: [css-d] Creating your own stylesheet for a website

2009-05-01 Thread Bobby Jack

--- On Fri, 5/1/09, Atkinson, Sarah sarah.atkin...@cookmedical.com wrote:

Hi Sarah,

 Is there away for me to create a Stylesheet for it
 and have my browser automatically override there styles?

Yes, but it depends on your browser. Firefox, for example, makes it very easy 
to do and a search for user stylesheet will probably suffice; example:

http://webdesign.about.com/od/css/ht/htcssuserfirefo.htm

There are also plugins available which will allow you to supply per-site user 
stylesheets.

 I know to many of you this might sound horrible

It /should/ sound delightful to most of us, after all it's a key part of the 
'C' in 'CSS' :) Unfortunately, no browser supports it very well (IMHO) which is 
a real shame.

P.S. I think this might be considered dangerously close to off-topic, since 
this list is intended for discussion surrounding specific CSS behaviour rather 
than more general issues.

- Bobby
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Re: [css-d] Creating your own stylesheet for a website

2009-05-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 I go to a website fairly regularly and their styles are horrible. 
 It's just too painful for me to look at anymore. Is there away for me
  to create a Stylesheet for it and have my browser automatically 
 override there styles?

Yes, but how automatically it is activated depends on which browser
you use.

See:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UserStylesheets
http://webdesign.about.com/od/userstylesheets/a/aa010906.htm
...for how to guidance.

FWIW: I use Opera, which lets me set up 'site preferences' to
automatically control any site with whatever combination of author/user
stylesheets and whatnot I like.
Sure comes handy - even if there happens to be a designer behind a
site's own styles :-)

regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] Creating your own stylesheet for a website

2009-05-01 Thread David Laakso
Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 I go to a website fairly regularly and their styles are horrible. It's just 
 too painful for me to look at anymore. Is there away for me to create a 
 Stylesheet for it and have my browser automatically override there styles? I 
 know to many of you this might sound horrible but don't worry no designers 
 feelings will get hurt... I'm sure that no designers were used in making the 
 site. 
   


I go to lots of those. No time to create a user style sheet for each.
My fast and dirty method makes the hideous and grotesque instantly 
readable, functional, and usable:
Opera browserviewstyleuser mode.
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Re: [css-d] Creating your own stylesheet for a website

2009-05-01 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On May 1, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Atkinson, Sarah wrote:

 I go to a website fairly regularly and their styles are horrible.  
 It's just too painful for me to look at anymore. Is there away for  
 me to create a Stylesheet for it and have my browser automatically  
 override there styles? I know to many of you this might sound  
 horrible but don't worry no designers feelings will get hurt... I'm  
 sure that no designers were used in making the site.

User stylesheet is what you're looking for.
For my personal use I have a 1500 lines user stylesheet to override a  
number of barbarities (did I mention I hate microscopically small  
type ?).

If your browser is Firefox, it has to be stored in yourprofile/ 
randomnumber/crome/userContent.css
Firefox (and other Gecko based browsers) have some very handy css- 
extension, that allows to limit styles to one particular site (or  
URL): @-moz-document
https://developer.mozilla.org/index.php?title=En/CSS:%40-moz-document

Safari and Opera also have decent support for user stylesheet.

On May 1, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Bobby Jack wrote:

 Unfortunately, no browser supports it very well (IMHO) which is a  
 real shame.

It is not that bad… UI is a bit lacking in general, though.
OmniWeb probably has the best implementation, with its per site  
preference.


Philippe
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