[CTRL] The Deep Vince Foster
If I am off on putting this together - I tried!LauraAKA The Pied Piper-Original Message-From: Brian Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 5:21 PMSubject: [CTRL] The Deep Vince Foster> -Caveat Lector->> Allegations Regarding Vince Foster, the NSA, and> Banking Transactions Spying, Part I>> by J. Orlin Grabbe>> On April 17, 1995, James R. Norman, Senior Editor at Forbes> Magazine, sent the following letter to Michael D. McCurry,> Press Secretary at the White house:>> "Dear Mr. McCurry:>> "Forbes Magazine is preparing an article for immediate =publication.> We would like to offer the White House an opportunity to =comment> on the following assertions.>> "1.) That Vincent W. Foster, while White House Deputy Counsel,> maintained a Swiss bank account.A) He was killed not long after a visit from a "woman" - could this ="woman" also know the Clinton's? I imagine he would have been shown to =have a x-mas club account if needed. What information was he attempting =to get from the "woman"? When did the Levenski affair start? Was =Clinton hiding or was it concurrent with other sexual escapades?> "2.) That funds were paid into that account by a foreign> government, specifically the State of Israel.Who is that Israeli that is a part of the World Bank that helped but Israel into financial debt?> "3.) That shortly before his death and coincident with the> onset of severe and acute depression, Vincent Foster learned> he was under investigation by the CIA for espionage.Do I hear Daddy Bush in this?> "4.) That this information was made available to him by> Hillary Rodham Clinton.So what did she threaten him with the CIA and Bush?> "5.) That while he was White House Deputy Counsel and for> many years prior, Vincent Foster had been a behind-the-> scenes control person on behalf of the National Security> Agency for Systematics, a bank data processing company> integrally involved in a highly secret intelligence effort> to monitor world bank transactions.Well so that is where Clinton will go to work after leaving the =Presidency. For the "World Bank". =20> "6.) That Systematics was also involved in "laundering" funds> from covert operations, including drug and arms sales related> to activities in and around Mena, Ark.Involved with the CIA and Daddy Bush then.> "7.) That through Systematics' relationship with E-Systems,> Vincent Foster may have had access to highly sensitive code,> encryption and data security information of strategic> importance.Means that if they can get control of phone and computer areas. Makes =me wonder about the Microsoft Trial now.> "8.) That both prior to and after his death, documents relating> to Systematics were removed from Vincent Foster's office in> the White House.Could this be one of the things that he was studying about the Clintons =and Bush?> "9.) That the meeting at the Cardozo (Landau) estate on the> eastern shore of Maryland on the weekend before Vincent> Foster's death was attended by, among others, George> Stephanopolous.I can't link this.> "10.) That Hillary Rodham Clinton was also a beneficiary of> funds from Foster's Swiss account.I can't link this either. I do not know enough about Swill Bank =Accounts.> "Thank you very much for your prompt attention to this matter.> Please fax your written response before end-of-business> Tuesday, April 18, to Forbes at 212-620-2417. If you have> questions, please call me at 212-620-2215.>> "Respectfully yours,>> "James R. Norman, Senior Editor">> The White House did not respond until April 25, 1995. However,> on April 20, 1995, a copy of this letter was leaked by White> House counsel to Mark H. Tuohey III, an assistant to Kenneth> Starr, a prosecutor leading an "independent" investigation of> events related to Whitewater.>> Why was the letter forward to a Starr assistant?>> Did the White House have reason to believe that the death> of Vincent Foster was related to Whitewater?>> Was the letter forwarded to Mark Tuohey so that he could> investigate and comment on the allegations in the letter?> Or was the letter leaked to Mark Tuohey by the White House> because Tuohey is the White House point man for spin control> with respect to any evidence "uncovered" by the investigation?>> On April 25, 1995, Michael D. McCurry replied as follows:>> "Dear Mr. Norman>> "This letter responds to your April 17, 1995 request.>> "The alleg
[CTRL] FIGHTING NORWAY'S NAMING LAW
-Caveat Lector- --Caveat Lector- Fred is a credible and knowledgeable person. Does anyone have additional info about the Norway Naming Law? Barb From: Fred Battey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FIGHTING NORWAY'S NAMING LAW : : : We still have relative freedom, although we are seeing our freedoms rapidly decreased as government tries to regulate and control every aspect of our lives. Below is a good example of what happens when government becomes thus involved. This is only one example of hundreds if not thousands of what has happened in other nations who have caved under the pressures of socialist and dictatorial government control. The battle we are involved in is not a sideline effort, and not just restricted to the education arena. Education just happens to be one, although a major, arena in the push for total societal, economic and financial control of our nation. Can the below happen in our country? You betcha! Can we be required to carry official ID on our persons at all times as is required in most European countries? You betcha! Can we be required to use only designated healthcare as is the case in many countries? You betcha! Can we be monitored on the care of our children and required to enter them into "approved" facilities from pre-birth, through pre-school, through total education? You betcha! And please understand I am not talking about 5 years from now, but much sooner unless there is a major change in our course. To believe otherwise is playing directly into the hands of the those who are the driving force behind the movement. Fred _ FIGHTING NORWAY'S NAMING LAW The Name Game World Magazine, Jan. 9, 1999 Kirsti Larsen was thrown in a Norwegian jail because she gave her son a first name that was not on the government's list of acceptable choices. She named him Gesher, which means "bridge" In Hebrew. This violates Norway's strict laws regulating names, which include lists of acceptable first and last names. When Mrs. Larsen tried to register her son's name as Gesher at her local county office back in 1995, it was rejected as Illegal. She appealed repeatedly but was ordered to change the name, pay a $210 fine, or spend two days in jail. Mrs. Larsen refused to change the name of her boy, who is now four. So she went to prison for two days, leaving her husband and 10 children at home. But since little Gesher is still named Gesher, no one knows how this dispute will be settled. "Many probably would have bowed to 'Big Brother' and paid the fine. On principle, I couldn't go along with such absurdity," Mrs. Larsen told the Vordens Gang newspaper. "Maybe the authorities thought I would come running with the money when they ordered me to serve my sentence just before Christmas, but I didn't let them scare me." DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hemp Held Hostage
-Caveat Lector- 10-Nov-1999 16:3218k >From Fairfield County (Conn.) Weekly http://www.fairfieldweekly.com/articles/hemp.html NOV. 11, 1999 - Hemp Held Hostage - With the Reefer Madness mentality still alive and well in the United States, it's little wonder that hemp has been unfairly maligned and its benefits sabotaged by literal-minded bureaucrats. Defying federal law, industrial hemp is proving itself to be, both literally and figuratively, one durable little plant. By Terri Lagerstedt Ontario-based Kenex has been exporting birdseed to the United States since the mid 1990s. But on Aug. 9, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) seized a truckload of Kenex's birdseed on its way through U.S. customs. Birdseed? Why on earth would the DEA take such a strong action against a product as innocuous as birdseed? The answer lies in the fact that Kenex is Canada's leading producer, processor and distributor of hemp products and the birdseed being exported to the United States contained sterilized hemp seed. That day it didn't seem to matter that Kenex has been exporting this same product to the United States for years without incident. Nor did it seem to matter that, according to the DEA's own definition, hemp seed is a perfectly legal item to import. It wasn't until nearly two months later, on Oct. 6, that the DEA finally issued a press release stating that "recently, DEA and other federal agencies have become aware that sterilized cannabis seed has been imported into the United States for use in food products for human consumption. Furthermore, some of that seed, and products made from that seed, may be contaminated with THC." Tetrahydrocannabinol -- THC -- is the psychoactive ingredient found in the cannabis plant. Ah, cannabis...in other words: marijuana, pot, weed, doobie...and star of the '30s cult classic Reefer Madness. That might be the first connection you make when you hear the word cannabis. You might not even be aware that there's more to marijuana than getting high. As in most families, it's the notorious members that get all the attention; with the Reefer Madness mentality still alive and well in the United States, it's little wonder that another member of the cannabis family has been unfairly maligned and its benefits sabotaged by literal-minded bureaucrats. Even so, the seeds of the cannabis plant contain no THC -- although when bits of plant matter inadvertently brush against the seeds and stick there, traces can be found in hemp seed products. However, the lab reports accompanying the fated Kenex shipment clearly indicated that the hemp seed in that shipment contained virtually no THC -- and certainly not enough to get anyone high. Futhermore, that shipment of birdseed wasn't intended for human consumption, it was for the birds. So before you go jumping to conclusions about Farmer Joe's pet chicken hopped up on hemp seed with a case of the munchies, there are a few things you should know. The first thing to take into account is the difference between marijuana and its misunderstood cousin. Simply put, industrial hemp is not marijuana. According to hemp activist and former HempWorld publisher Mari Kane, the confusion stems from the fact that marijuana and industrial hemp are different strains of the same species of plant. Where marijuana has been bred for its psychoactive qualities, hemp has been bred for its fiber and its seed content. And in breeding for these attributes, the level of THC is reduced, rendering industrial hemp useless both medicinally and recreationally. "The main difference," she explained, "is determined by the THC levels in the plant." And there simply isn't enough THC -- less than 1 percent -- found in industrial hemp to get you high. It might not get you high, but industrial hemp is a very useful natural resource. Hemp fiber is employed in making everything from canvas and rope to clothing and textiles. If you're up on your hemp history, you're already aware that drafts of our own Declaration of Independence were written on hemp paper, that Henry Ford built a car that was made from hemp fiber and ran on hemp-based fuel, and that during the World Wars, farmers were required to grow hemp used for supplies to aid the war effort. In fact, industrial hemp has been touted as the plant with 25,000 uses. That much utility makes it a hard natural resource to ignore. In recent years, the fashion industry has been leaping onto the proverbial bandwagon. Designers Calvin Klein and Gianni Versaci use hemp fabric in some of their clothing. Adidas manufactures hemp sneakers. Aside from the myriad historical examples of hemp fiber being used to make paper, rope and sails and its visibility in modern fashion, there are some more interesting, less publicized items manufactured using hemp fiber. For instance, the 1999 model year car you're driving may be equipped with parts utilizing hemp fibe
Re: [CTRL] 25 Worst People of last Milenium
-Caveat Lector- There must be some mistake! They forgot my EvilX! Amelia - Original Message - From: Bill Richer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 5:41 PM Subject: [CTRL] 25 Worst People of last Milenium > -Caveat Lector- > > WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! > > > > > > -- > -- > > -- > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] H.J. Res. 10
-Caveat Lector- 106th CONGRESS 1st Session H. J. RES. 10 Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to provide that no person born in the United States will be a United States citizen unless a parent is a United States citizen, is lawfully in the United States, or has a lawful immigration status at the time of the birth. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES January 6, 1999 Mr. FOLEY (for himself, Mr. ROHRABACHER, Mr. ROYCE, Mr. DOOLITTLE, Mr. SHAYS, Mr. PAUL, Mr. DEAL of Georgia, Mr. MCCRERY, and Mr. BEREUTER) introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary JOINT RESOLUTION Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to provide that no person born in the United States will be a United States citizen unless a parent is a United States citizen, is lawfully in the United States, or has a lawful immigration status at the time of the birth. Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification: `Article-- `SECTION 1. No person born in the United States after the date of the ratification of this article shall be a citizen of the United States, or of any State, on account of birth in the United States unless the mother or father of the person is a citizen of the United States, is lawfully in the United States, or has a lawful status under the immigration laws of the United States, at the time of the birth. `SECTION 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.'. END DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Mexico/United States
STRATFOR.COM's Global Intelligence Update - November 17, 1999 By The Internet's Most Intelligent Source of International News & Analysis http://www.stratfor.com/ _ WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR WORLD? Japan Plays Games With the Yen Update: Yeltsin Storms out of OSCE Summit Iran and Pakistan Ally Against the Taliban FIND OUT AT http://www.stratfor.com/ __ COMING THIS WEEKEND Yeltsin storms out of the OSCE summit, signaling a foreign policy shift. Nigerian President Obasanjo backs off hardline stance toward military. __ STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update November 18, 1999 Mexico Rebuffs Future U.S. Drug War Support Summary: Mexico is suddenly signaling that its military may end counter narcotics cooperation with the U.S. military. While on the surface this move stems from growing Mexican mistrust toward the United States, the break in counter drug military-to-military relations could be an effort to conceal high-level corruption on the part of Mexican military officials. It also connotes widespread dissatisfaction with the U.S. war on drugs. But regardless of the reasons, the move is a threat to U.S. counter-drug efforts throughout Latin America. Analysis: Senior Mexican and U.S. officials from a joint counter narcotics taskforce, the High-Level Contact Group (HLCG), met in Washington D.C. Nov. 10. There, the Mexican Foreign Minister Rosario Green and White House drug czar Barry McCaffrey praised each country for its cooperative effort to curtail drug trafficking from Mexico. U.S. officials applauded Mexico on its counter narcotics program and recent record seizures of marijuana and heroin. But at a press conference later that day, Green reiterated that Mexico would forego future U.S. military donations, saying Mexico "will be able to rely on our own resources," reported the Dallas Morning News, one of few U.S. newspapers to cover the event. Mexico's move to end counter narcotics cooperation, on the surface, defies economic, political and military reason. Why would a country plagued by drugs and corruption give up future U.S. military resources to help fight the drug war? Ostensibly, at least, Mexico says it is capable of fighting its war alone. A letter from the Mexican Secretariat of Foreign Relations (SRE) to the Mexican Senate Nov. 1 explained that Mexican armed forces, trained in the United States, had strengthened Mexico's anti-narcotics capabilities, ending the need for equipment and logistics transfers with the United States. Mexico has received important U.S. help for its interdiction efforts in recent years. Since the United States began counter surveillance in 1990, U.S. P-3 aircraft have been authorized to monitor narco-trafficking aircraft over Mexican airspace. Mexican pilots have received radar training, and Mexico purchased its own Citation aircraft to support interdiction. Both governments have cooperated in tactical and maritime information sharing and have coordinated communication capabilities. The Mexican navy and the U.S. Coast Guard began direct communications in June 1997 for counter drug coordination. About 100 Mexican special forces troops were trained in small-unit tactics at Fort Bragg in North Carolina. A number of pilots were given helicopter training at Fort Rucker in Alabama. This training and information sharing has apparently given Mexico the capacity to coordinate its own military counter drug efforts. In addition to being confident that U.S. military support is less necessary, Mexican officials have expressed their dissatisfaction with the quality of U.S. military hardware received, in particular helicopters. In September, Mexico returned 72 problematic Vietnam War-era UH-1H helicopters donated in 1996 by the United States. Most of the helicopters had been inoperable since 1998. Another factor in the decision to return the choppers may have been U.S. restrictions placed on their use. The donated helicopters came with stipulations requiring they only be used for counter narcotics efforts and not be used by the military in anti-guerrilla campaigns in troubled states like Chiapas or Guerrero. Mexico's recent dissatisfaction over faulty military equipment only touches the surface of a deeper skepticism directed toward the United States. Mexican and U.S. officials have harbored mistrust toward one another since the beginning of the latest round of counter narcotics cooperation. The United States has spurned the Mexican government, on its own soil, in the past. Operation Casablanca in 1998, which netted U.S. arrests of at least 24 Mexican bankers, infuriated Mexican officials who did not know U.S. undercover agents were present in their country. The United States also harbors doubts over Mexico's commitment to combating drug trafficking. The Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) remains wary of corrupt Mexican officials and federal police
[CTRL] Fwd: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] FW: MLK family's wrongful death suit over assassination begins
From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bush, Shackley, Secord, North, Clarridge, Jenkins, Singlaub, Abrams, Gates, Sporkin, Helms, Colby, Walters, Clines, Hemming, Kermit Roosevelt, William Walker, Rodriguez, Casey, Carone, Aderholt, Best, Revel, F. Keating, Weld, etc, etc., etc. As older members of the cadre retire or die they are replaced and new ones come in. New members are coming up now. That's why, when we talk about CIA and drugs, we are automatically talking about all the other shadow government activities. Thus we see the same covert operatives leave SE Asia in 1975 and go straight to Iran/Pakistan. Then in 1981 they turn up in Contra. Others like Keating run covert ops out of HUD and then become Gov. in Oklahoma for OKC. Walker, after training death squads in Central America in the 80s trains the KLA and leads several massacres of Serbs for the CIA there. Sir Michael Jackson of Britain (Kosovo) is the same Michael Jackson who was Deputy Commander of British Forces at the "Bloody Sunday" Massacres in Ireland while U.S. General Wesley Clark in Kosovo was the same who commanded the Delta Force at Waco in 1993. Trusted operatives are invaluable to the ruling elites. That's how George Bush got to be one. The number is kept small to control the access to knowledge - which is power. Go to my web site. Look at the list of 142 key witnesses for Iran-Contra., In there you find everything from drugs and money laundering to OKC to Waco to the Savings and Loan scandal. Mike Ruppert www.copvcia.com -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 3:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [CIA-DRUGS] FW: MLK family's wrongful death suit over assassination begins From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Who are these 40 or 50 guys? They must have names, faces, addresses, families? Business interests? Property? Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Mike Ruppert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 12:52 PM To: CIA Drugs list Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] FW: MLK family's wrongful death suit over assassination begins From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To demonstrate how closely these different topics are connected, ponder this, the attorneys for the King family include Dr. William Pepper and Ray Kohlman - a very dear friend of mine who happens also to be the attorney for Bill Tyree of the Watchtower mission fame. Tyree was just put in solitary to prevent him from providing a videotaped depo. at the trial and to intimidate Dee Ferdinand, the daughter of Al Carone who the bagman for Ollie North, Bill Casey and George Bush during Iran-Contra. When it comes down to the operatives, the mechanics who actually do the work in almost every one of the case I will quote my good friend Jimmy Rothstein of NYPD, "It's always the same damn forty or fifty guys!" The King story bears all the attention you can spare. It's bigger than Waco from a historical standpoint. I know more but have to keep my mouth shut till it comes out. If Billy Tyree turns up dead it's because of the MLK trial. For more one, visit my web site. Mike Ruppert www.copvcia.com -Original Message- From: Michael Novick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 11:56 PM To: Marpessa Kupendua Subject:MLK family's wrongful death suit over assassination begins King Wrongful-Death Trial Begins Family Filed Suit to Learn More About Killing Nov. 15, 1999 AP Martin Luther King Jr. MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) -- A trial opened today on a lawsuit that Martin Luther King Jr.'s family filed in hopes of learning more about his assassination. The family filed the wrongful-death lawsuit last year against Lloyd Jowers, who claimed on national television in 1993 that he hired the killer of the civil rights leader-and it wasn't James Earl Ray. Jowers has since refused to discuss his claim. Relatives suspect conspiracy The King family has tried for years to get court hearings on their belief that the killing resulted from a conspiracy, not a lone gunman. Family members have said they hope the trial will bring out new details about the slaying. The lawsuit seeks unspecified damages from Jowers and "unknown co-conspirators." Jury selection started today, and the trial is expected to last two weeks. King was felled by a rifle bullet in 1968 in Memphis while standing on the balcony of the Lorraine Motel, now the National Civil Rights Museum. Ray confessed, then recanted Ray confessed shortly after King's slaying and was sentenced to 99 years in prison. He recanted soon after pleading guilty, claiming he was set up by a smuggler he knew only as Raul. He died in April 1998. Authorities say Ray fired the fatal shot from a second-floor bathroom window in a nearby building. Jowers owned a restaurant on the ground floor of the building. Authorities say they still are convinced Ray was the ki
Re: [CTRL] BERLIN: Records of children
-Caveat Lector- Genetic experiments invfolving twins? Mind Control Breeding SO. Were they breeding a superior race or a superior form of white lab rat? But maybe they were also breeding their replacment bodies - Brain Transplants - Why worry about organ transplants when you can transplant the whole brain! - these children had few if any records? earthman wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > http://www.news.com.au/news_content/world_content/4166653.htm > > BERLIN: Records of children born under a Nazi project to breed a German > master race will be opened to the children now trying to track down their > roots, a spokesman from the federal archives said today. > > Under the breeding program known as Lebensborn, or Fount of Life, women > deemed by the Nazis to fit the ideals of the German race were mated with > selected men to "bear a child for the Fuehrer." The mating places were > officially disguised as maternity homes. > > We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard > http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/site_map.htm DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Speculation "Are we better than Animals?"
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 16-Jan-99 19:19:02 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << If Jefferson were to drop in he could teach the current law > class if very little time. > I doubt this. First, no college would let such a radical teach. Second, he would be so angry at what had been done to the country that he probably would be too busy learning how to shoot an assault weapon and organize a militia to take the time to teach. Thirdly, even if he were allowed to teach and could control his temper enough to take the time, he would not understand how the commerce clause had been interpreted into the establishment of a completely different system which he would not be able to teach. Howard Davis >> Touche! DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Don't Visit the United Nations Hunger Site
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/18/99 11:38:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << On 17 Nov 99, at 23:15, Rory Winter wrote: >. The Washington Post (USA) - "Think of all the time you spend > clicking aimlessly or fruitlessly around the Web. At the Hunger > Site, one click actually accomplishes something: It sends a > serving of food to a starving person, at no cost to you. > Corporate sponsors provide the food in exchange for free > advertisement and links. Since its June 1 start-up, the site has > sent enough money to the United Nations' World Food Program to > purchase more than 4 million servings of dietary staples; a WFP > official calls it 'an extraordinary testimony to the power of > the Internet.' > http://www.theunhungersite.com/ I have my "favorites" set up so the site is grouped with my "personal pages" and try to go there once a day and give it a click. >> UNITED NATIONS CHRONOLOGY: FIFTY YEARS OF SHAME By Robert W. Lee Though far from complete, the following record demonstrates the extent to which the United Nations has, since its founding in l945, worked to pull down the economic, political, and moral pillars on which the American Republic was built: April 25, 1945. The United Nations founding conference convened in San Francisco with U.S. State Department official Alger Hiss serving as Secretary-General. Hiss, a Soviet spy, would eventually be convicted of perjury for lying about his pro- Soviet activities. February 6,1946. The Senate confirmed Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Harry Dexter White to be executive director for the United States of the UN's International Monetary Fund (IMF). White served as chairman of the committee that established the IMF. In November 1953, Attorney General Herbert Brownell confirmed during a speech in Chicago that White, like Hiss, was a Soviet spy. Brownell asserted that "the records in my department show that White's spying activities for the Soviet government were reported in detail by the FBI to the White House ... in December of 1945. In the face of this information, and White's communist ties were well- known by Truman Administration. incredible though it may seem, President Truman subsequently on January 23, 1946 nominated White" to the IMF post. SEPTEMBER 8, 1954. The Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty was signed by the eight participating nations, including the United States. The Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO), is a region- al subsidiary of the UN, later served as the primary "legal" justifi- cation for U.S. involvement in Vietnam. Writing in the New York Times for March 2, 1966, C. L. Sulzberger revealed that former Secre- tary of State John Foster Dulles "fathered SEATO with the deliberate purpose, as he explained to me, of providing the U.S. President with legal authority to intervene in Indochina." After the war, which formally ended with a communist victory on April 30, 1975, SEATO, having served its purpose, was disbanded (February 1976). SEPTEMBER 13, 1961. The UN launched Operation Morthor, a full-scale military invasion of the independent, anti-communist province of Katanga in the former Belgian Congo. The UN assault included the bombing of hospitals, attacks on ambulances, and general violence so extreme that the 46 civilian doctors of Katanga's capital of Eliza- bethville issued the book-length report 46 ANGRY MEN which, accompan- ied by pictorial examples of UN atrocities, documented the horror that the UN inflicted in the name of "peace." SEPTEMBER 25, 1961. President John F. Kennedy presented the U.S. disarmament plan, subsequently published as State Department Publica- tion 7277 (Freedom From War: The United States Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World), the ultimate aim of which is the creation of a world order in which "no state would have the military power to challenge the progressively strengthened U.N. Peace Force" The treasonous policy outlined in this sovereignty- destroying document remains in effect to the present. NOVEMBER 11, 1965. Rhodesia declared its independence from Great Britain, and the UN General Assembly immediately branded it "a threat to international peace and security." On December 16, 1966, the Security Council voted to impose mandatory sanctions (for the first time in UN history), which the Johnson Administration promptly endors- ed. In 1971, Congress approved an amendment allowing the U.S. to import strategic materials from communist nations, but repealed the amendment in 1977. On April 18, 1980, Rhodesia officially expired, becoming the Marxist-ruled nation of Zimbabwe. UN sanctions were lifted and by late September the U.S. and other Western countries had pledged more than $300 million in aid to the new communist regime led by terrorist Robert Mugabe. OCTOBER 25, 1971. The General Assembly voted to a
Re: [CTRL] Living in corporate America.
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I would estimate that of over 50% of all consumer manufactured >goods are coming from Communist China. Why? Well, because the >capitalist built their latest and best manufacturing plants >there? Why? Cheap Labour. Huge Market. > > MJ: > How long has labor been cheap abroad? Why is it only in recent > years we have had a (purported) mass exodus? Could it be the > regulatory load which has escalated over the past recent years? > > Regard$, > --MJ What do you mean " purported?" Where is America's manufacturing base? Did it disappear down a rabbit hole? There's nothing purported about American corporations leaving in droves. This is bullshit on your part and you know it. You take a foolish position, you have to defend it by flinging bovine droppings and red herrings. American companies had been buying their way out of regulations more and more in the years before leaving these shores for foreign labor. As a matter of fact, they got tax breaks for doing it. This could only happen because they got more complete control of Congress. American corporations are owned by the Rich and their managerial sub- class. These two groups have a long history of theft, violence, crime, and treason against the citizens, workers, and country of the USA. Only a twisted Libertarian would blame regulations as the reason for industrial flight. Everyone with any sense at all knows it's for profit. Workers and nation be damned. Joshua2 > > The policy of the American government is to leave their > citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in > their pursuits. -- Thomas Jefferson to M. L'Hommande, 1787. > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Republican vs Democrat
-Caveat Lector- If fact there is no difference between the parties. It's as if they are all the same, exactly as you stated. How is it we can find no honorable men to run for an office and when we do find a good man, we can't get him elected because the local party boss won't put him on the ballot, or the electorate fails to recognize the integrity in the candidate, or the election is plain stolen because of voter fraud? It seems like a dark, deep hole. Good article, Jim Norman J FROST wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > The republicians are evil they do this > > The democrats are evil, they do that > > Ah, yes the old team spirit you were brainwashed with in school serves > the party bosses well. > > By getting idiot groupies to join one of their teams, each side of > stooges are fighting against the other. > > While the idiot supporters continue to defend their own gods and > point out the evil in the other devils, they become so blind to > see all political parties are nothing but scum ball crooks. > > Begin to make a list of all the crooked/immoral deeds both parties > have been/are involved and know the prisons are full of common > people who have done exactly the same things as the party gods > you worship. > > Republicans nor democrats have any principals, the only reason any of > them have become a member of either party is not by the party doctrine, > but because it was their chance to get rich making the idiots pick their > cotton. > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Real "Aliens" Among Us [repost]
-Caveat Lector- On 18 Nov 99, at 6:29, Das GOAT wrote: > When Corporations Rule the World," > by David C. Korten, Kumarian and B-K Press, $29.95 > > ... For some years now I've felt that to have an overview from which > we can change things, we must realize that our central problem is that > the planet has been taken over by a different, larger and more > dominant species, called CORPORATIONS. Some many months ago, I heard David Korten speak on NPR at the National Press Club (?) and I thought he was one of the most interesting speakers I had heard in a very long time. He not only had an insightful critique but some positive suggestions to offer regarding remedy and change. sno0wl DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DEFENSE OF POPE PIUS XII
-Caveat Lector- IN DEFENSE OF POPE PIUS XII by Kenneth Woodward "The voice of Pius XII is a lonely voice in the silence and darkness enveloping Europe this Christmas..He is about the only ruler left on the Continent of Europe who dares to raise his voice at all". (Editorial, the New York Times, Dec 25, 1941). "A full explanation of Pope Pius' conduct is needed..It now falls to John Paul and his successors to take the next step toward full acceptance of the Vatican's failure to stand squarely against the evil that swept across Europe" (Editorial, the New York Times, Mar 18, 1998). How the times - and the Times- do change. During the second world war, Pope Pius XII was lauded for his singular efforts to halt the carnage. And for years after, he was praised for the Church's efforts in saving an estimated 700,000 Jews from the Nazi death camps - mainly by issuing false baptismal certificates to Jews, disguising some in cassocks and hiding others in cloistered monasteries and convents. But last week, after the Vatican issued its long awaited "mea culpa" for failing to do more, critics of the Church greeted the Vatican's statement with the sound of one hand clapping. Asa the Times editorial suggests, they are demanding nothing less than a moral outing by the Vatican of Pius XOO. Something shameful is going on. That Pius XII was silent in the face of the Holocaust; that he did little to help the Jews; that he was in fact a pro-German if not pro-Nazi; that underneath it all he was anti-Semite - are all monstrous calumnies that now seem to pass for accepted wisdom. Most of these accusations can be traced to a single originating source: "The Deputy", by Rolf Hochhuth's 1963 play that created an image of Pius as moral coward. That Golda Meir, later a prime minister of Israel, and leaders of the Jewish communities in Hungary, Turkey, Italy, Romania, and the USA thanked the Pope for saving hundreds of thousands of Jews is now considered irrelevant. That he never specifically condemned the Shoah is all that seems to matter. In fact, Pius XII was neither silent nor inactive. As the Vatican's secretary of State in 1937, he drafted an encyclical for Pope Pius XI condemning Nazism as un-Christian. The document was then smuggled into Germany, secretly printed there in German and read from Roman Catholic pulpits. The Nazis responded by confiscating the presses and imprisoning many Catholics. In his 1942 Christmas message, which the New York Times among others extolled, the Pope became the first figure of international stature to condemn what was turning into a Holocaust. Among other sins of the Nazi's New Order, he denounced the persecution "of hundreds of thousands, who without any fault of their own, sometimes only by reason of their nationality or race, are marked down for death or progressive extinction." The Nazis understood the Pope only too well. "His speech is one long attack on everything we stand for," declared the Gestapo. "Here he is clearly speaking on behalf of the Jews. He is virtually accusing the German people of injustice toward Jews and makes himself the mouthpiece of the Jewish war criminals." In February 1942, Protestant and Catholic leaders of Nazi-occupied Holland prepared a letter condemning the deportation of Jews to death camps in "the East". But only the Catholic bishops, "following the path indicated by our Holy Father", read the letter aloud from the pulpit despite threats from the Nazis. As a result, occupation forces swept Holland's Catholic convents, monasteries, and schools, deporting all Jews who had converted to Christianity, something that had never been done before. When word of this reached Rome, the Pope withdrew a four-page protest he had written for the Vatican and burned it. As the eleven volumes on the war years, published by the Vatican archives make clear, Jewish as well as Christian groups pleaded with the Pope not to make a public protest because it would only intensify the Nazi persecution. The Pope's crime - if that is what it is - is that he chose the role of diplomatic peacemaker rather than martyr for the cause. Both the Allies and the Axis powers pressured to take their side. It was clear, as the Times reported and the Nazis complained, that Pius XII stood for western freedoms. But the Pope refused to sign an Allied condemnation of Nazi attrocities against the Jews (and Christians) if he could not also condemn the slaughter of Jews and other religious believers by Stalin, then an ally of the United States. As it happened, about 5 million of the 6 million Jews who died came from Russia and Poland, where the Pope had no power to command anyone. Historian Christopher Browning is right in concluding that "the Holocaust is a story with many victims and not too many heros. I think we are naive if we think one more hero could have stopped it." It is also naive to complain - as the New York Times did last week - that Pius XII "did not encourage Catholics to defy Nazi orders
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991118b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * Please DO NOT include the entire bulletin when you reply; Cut/Paste, he? * No dinosaurs were charbroiled during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Advanced AI detects cat on keyboard: http://www.bitboost.com/pawsense/pawsense-faq.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Flood Of Evidence: Scientists inundated with 'new proof' of Noah's deluge. Scientists have discovered an ancient coastline 550 feet below the surface of the Black Sea, dramatic new evidence of a sudden, catastrophic flood around 7,500 years ago - the possible source of the Old Testament story of Noah. http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/world/A13897-1999Nov17.html : Do most cultures living around rivers/lakes/seas have flood myths? Do most cultures living far from water have very few flood myths? Can you guess why? # Paul Bowles, whose name evoked dark Moroccan streets & scorching deserts, has died in Tangier at the age of 88. Author, composer, translator: www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/99/11/19/timobiobi03003.html?999 http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/late/19bowles-nyt.html http://cnn.com/books/news/9911/18/obit.bowles.ap/index.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ THE BATTLE FOR YOUR MIND. The Birth of Conversion: Brainwashing in Chris- tian Revivalism in 1735. The Three Brain Phases: The Pavlovian Explanation. How Revivalist Preachers Work. Six Conversion Techniques. Not Always a Bad Thing. Cults: A Captive Course in Stockholm Syndrome. The Only Hope of Imm- unity. US Marines as a Brainwashing Cult. Steps in the Decognition Process. Thought Stopping Techniques. True believers & mass movements. Persuasion techniques. Subliminal Programming. Vibrato. Extra-low Frequency Vibrations (ELFs). The Neurophone. Technological Tools for Mass Manipulation. Brain- washing'R'Us: http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/sutphen/brainwsh.html : Has your brain been washed lately? Was it really scungy? Was lots of soap needed? Did it work? Do you think nice clean thoughts now? About what? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # HELL ON EARTH - Were the last dinosaurs roasted alive? New theory suggests firestorm grilled 'T-bone Rex'. THE DINOSAURS may have perished in a gas- fuelled firestorm of unimaginable intensity, claims a team of American oceanographers. They think the impact of a giant asteroid or comet in the Gulf of Mexico unleashed vast blasts of methane that set the air ablaze. Smokin' - http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19991120/newsstory1.html : Have you roasted any reptiles, amphibians, saurians lately? Do they taste just like chicken? Did the scent of roasted dinos permeate the collective unconsciousness of the surviving mammals, passed down via racial memory to this very day? Is that why Col. Saunders / KFC is such a success? Really?? # Kids go crazy for buffalo hot dogs, Forget the old pork'n'rat-hair type - kids seem to think buffalo dogs are the best. Sez a 7-year-old: "It was better than a regular hotdog. I can't say why,it just tastes like buffalo" http://sun-sentinel.com/news/daily/detail/0,1136,245132304,00.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ CE2s and Frustrated Science. Unfortunately, the resistance to UFOs by many scientists ensures that the kind of investigation CE2s require is seldom accomplished. A properly conducted inquiry requires scientifically trained investigators who have access to the necessary field instruments. It also must have laboratories and personnel willing and able to analyze samples or other relevant materials. Since all of this is expensive, the investi- gation must also be well funded. http://www.caus.org/pn111799.htm : Has your CE2 [Close Encounter of the Second Type] been well investigated? Did anyone care? Was the investigation suppressed? By who? Are you afraid?? # Mexican UFO Sightings Continue - - Wave Began In 1991: http://www.sightings.com/ufo5/mexr.htm # Thousands In New Guinea Area See HUGE UFOs...Some Just Meters Above The Sea: http://www.sightings.com/ufo5/guinea.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Hitler race project revealed. BERLIN (AP) Records of children born under a Nazi project to breed a German master race will be opened to the children now trying to track down their roots. The archives may hold files of some 1,000 children born from Adolf Hitler's quest for a race of tall, blond, blue-eyed Germans. The files could help some identify the parents of those children who did not meet the Nazi racist criteria and were sent to orpha- nages. Under the breeding program known as Lebensborn, or Fount of Life, women deemed by the Nazis to fit the ideals of the German race were mated with selected men to "bear a child for the Fuehrer." Eugenics'R'Us - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562122
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: They're at it Again!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-01-16 18:51:14 EST, you write: << CNN stated that the Government would be voting in less than two weeks time to decide to allow or not allow a charge to your phone bill equal to a Long Distance call EACH time you access the Internet. >> I've seen this message quite a few times in the last couple of weeks. Can anyone verify that this is correct, I think it is a hoax... no bill number to go by, no reference except CNN and no date/time for that. << The address is http://www.house.gov/writerep/ If you choose, visit the address above and fill out the necessary form! >> No form here, just a ploace to get a representative's email address. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Light Shed On Rehnquist's Robes
-Caveat Lector- NEW LIGHT SHED ON REHNQUIST'S ROBES === (CNNS, 01/16/99) -- Thanks to researchers publishing on the Conspiracy Theory Research List ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), a mailing list furthering the efforts of conspiracy researchers, new light has been shed on the subject of Chief Justice William Rehnquist's gold striped-sleeve judicial robe. This news service had suggested, in a previous report, that Rehnquist's robe was a recent fashion, adopted for the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. But according to information now received, Rehnquist first displayed his gold striped-sleeve judicial wear circa 1994. In 1994, according to, reportedly, a National Public Radio (NPR) broadcast, Rehnquist had been in attendance during a performance of the Gilbert & Sullivan operetta, "Iolanthe." Afterwards, "the Chief Justice had the gold-striped Lord Chancellor's robe copied." [Reportedly from NPR, 1/12/99.] According to one CTRL researcher, "Rehnquist's imperial robes initially caused a stir when he showed up in his stripes at Clinton's 1995 State of the Union Address, which was televised. There is also a Time article in the 2/6/95 issue which references Rehnquist's getup." Based upon this recent information, as well as other reports, it now appears that one presumed motivating force behind Bill Clinton's impeachment trial, the U.S. military, is less dominant. Rehnquist's gold stripes, implying a military trial, do not seem to have been tailor-made for Bill Clinton's impeachment. Other reports which indicate that the U.S. military is not pulling the strings of the impeachment trial involve the recent donative promised by Clinton to the U.S. armed forces. As noted in a previous CNNS press release, Caesars in the ancient Roman empire needed military support to stay in power, especially in the latter days of that empire. The Caesars routinely donated funds from the Roman treasury to their troops, to ensure their support. With recent promised increases in military spending, Caesar Clinton has quieted rumblings in military ranks. Caesar Clinton has also recently promised more money to police, so that they can increase their presence. Therefore the police, arguably a military force, have also received a promised donative. Also recently receiving an increase in funds from the U.S. Treasury have been federal employees, who have had their salaries raised. All -- military, federal bureaucrats, and police -- have received a promised or actual donative and are therefore more likely to support Caesar Clinton. Nonetheless, CNNS source "Slim Bacall" (pseudonym) has told us that one of her sources indicates there has been an ongoing military interface with the current Clinton scandals. Her source claims that the "Desert Fox" attack on Iraq, which occurred on or about "Surreal Saturday," the day the U.S. House of Representatives voted articles of impeachment against Bill Clinton, was manipulated into happening on or about that day not by Bill Clinton, but by high-ranking military personnel. Their alleged purpose was to embarrass Clinton by having the Desert Fox attack coincide with the House impeachment vote. The level of the military's role as underminer of Clinton is uncertain, at this point. But information previously reported by CNNS, that a likely hidden motivator behind Bill Clinton's impeachment woes is traceable to the ongoing Netanyahu/Clinton feud, appears increasingly likely. The impeachment trial of Bill Clinton is concurrent with an imminent Israeli election, in which Clinton's non-friend Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, may be voted out of office. Clinton hatchet-man James Carville and his associates are actively working for Netanyahu's defeat. A covert operation meant, apparently, to counter the Clinton team, was launched recently. The office of Carville associate Stan Greenberg, in Washington DC, was burglarized and files related to the upcoming Israeli election were stolen. In a prior report from CNNS, we pointed to speculation that Monica Lewinsky is an Israeli "asset," and that the scandal involving her and Bill Clinton is part of a "sting" operation. A past report from EIRNS (Executive Intelligence Review News Service) bolsters the claim. In "What Was the Mossad Role in the Lewinsky Affair?", Edward Spannaus reports on information contained in special prosecutor Kenneth Starr's Report, wherein Bill Clinton expressed fears that a foreign embassy was tapping White House phone conversations. [EIRNS, 9/16/99.] Spannaus writes, in part, that "[r]eportedly, the embassy involved was that of Israel, under the control of the right-wing Likud government of Benjamin Netanyahu." Citing a report by British journalist Edward Dowling,
[CTRL] This is not the Bible discussion list. . .
-Caveat Lector- Some people may find the links in this message of use, but let me say that I don't want this list turned into a forum for Bible thumping and belief bashing. Thus I will ask that we limit what we say and do in this regard to the discussion of religion and its relation to Conspiracy Theory, rather than Apologetics, Hermeneutics, Theology, or other issues that have as their basis individual belief and faith issues that should be left to each to decide for themselves. The disclaimer in every post is explicit in this regard. Thank you for the links and thank you for heeding this advice. In a message dated 11/18/99 5:17:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > KIRK, DOREEN, PATRICK & ALL OF YOU IN THIS EMAIL DISCUSSION LIST CAN GO TO... > > MY FAVORITE BIBLE STUDY WEB SITES ON THE INTERNET RIGHT NOW AND WRITE ME > BACK > THANKING ME FOR SHARING THESE TOTALLY COOL SITES WITH YOU. > > SHALOM - MAG - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > MY FAVORITE BIBLE SEARCH ENGINE > http://unbound.biola.edu/ > http://unbound.biola.edu/">The Unbound Bible > > HUGE List of Christian books online including, Bible Dictionaries, > Commentaries, etc > http://ccel.org/ > http://ccel.org/">Christian Classics Ethereal Library -- Fiction, > etc. > > Very Cool Source for books by the CHURCH FATHERS, Augustine, Aquinas, Luther, > > Calvin, etc > http://www.gty.org/~phil/hall.htm > http://www.gty.org/~phil/hall.htm">Hall of Church History > > Very Cool Source for the CREEDS of various denominations past & presenthttp://www.creeds.net/index.htm"> > http://www.creeds.net/index.htm > Creeds of Christendom > > What the Bible Says About... features The New Nave's Topical Bible, > http://wbsa.logos.com/search.asp > http://wbsa.logos.com/search.asp">What the Bible Says About... > > Very Cool site for the serious student of "LOGIC" - A must read for those > who > wish to debate in a logical manner as opposed to emotional or illogical, etc. > > http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/welcome.htm > http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/welcome.htm">Stephen Downes > : Fallacies > > > My Favorite Calvinist, Reconstructionist, Intellectual web site excellent! > http://www.chalcedon.edu/ > http://www.chalcedon.edu/">Chalcedon.edu > > Huge List of links to great Christian Web sites from R.C. Sproul's Ligonier > Ministries Web Sitehttp://www.gospelcom.net/ligonier/links.html"> > http://www.gospelcom.net/ligonier/links.html > Links to other sites > > Huge list of "Christian Web Sites" (Some of these sites are questionable) > http://nav1-2.webring.com/cgi-bin/navcgi?ring=cchristian;list;page=0 > http://nav1-2.webring.com/cgi-bin/navcgi?ring=cchristian;list;page=0">Ri > ng of Conservative Christian Sites > ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/18/99 3:24:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The following short quotation; from The Bible Book of Moses (the fifth Book > in The Bible) called Deuteronomy; is NOT to proselytise, as I have been > accused of trying to do, but merely to answer your question in which you > challenged me to show you where God calls The Ark of The Covenant His WITNESS > against His people. I quote your own words:- > > LOL > A witness against His people? WHO and WHERE is it said that GOD NEEDS A > WITNESS AGAINST HIS PEOPLE? LOL JAH, Really! Gimme a break. > > Deuteronomy 31:26 Take this Book of The Law, and put it in the side of The > Ark of The Covenant of the "I AM" your God, that it may be there for a > WITNESS against thee. I am really sorry to see this thread still running on this list. These are examples of proselytizing, in that you attempt to show that YOUR interpretations and beliefs are superior to others. Incidentally you have made a mistake in your interpretation, as can be plainly seen. The Ark is not the witness spoken of in this passage, but the Book of the Law is. Let us have no more back and forth on who has the upper hand in Hermeneutics. Beliefs AND interpretation of sacred texts are a matter of INDIVIDUAL belief and faith thus outside any area of our concern here. So I say again let this thread rest and let us move on to more pressing issues that have some bearing on Conspiracy theory, okay? ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] BERLIN: Records of children
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/18/99 2:31:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > http://www.news.com.au/news_content/world_content/4166653.htm > > BERLIN: Records of children born under a Nazi project to breed a German > master race will be opened to the children now trying to track down their > roots, a spokesman from the federal archives said today. > > Under the breeding program known as Lebensborn, or Fount of Life, women > deemed by the Nazis to fit the ideals of the German race were mated with > selected men to "bear a child for the Fuehrer." The mating places were > officially disguised as maternity homes. This could provide some valuable material for all of us. I think it prudent to keep our ears and eyes open to what develops from this. ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Occult / Intelligence [repost]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/18/99 12:55:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Verrry interesting... A little bird is whispering in my ear, "Ira Einhorn, > Ira Einhorn..." Ira the con-man would fit right in with this scenario, > wouldn't he? > The post was interesting indeed. Your mention of the "Unicorn" prompts my comments. There is much in the case of Einhorn which is really weird. His involvement with Geller and Puharich, and supposed knowledge of Tesla technology and contacts with certain Eastern Europeans. His contacts in AT&T, and presumably other Corporations, as well as his influence in cult-like groups and his efforts at guru status himself are just some of them. He always struck me as a wannabe type more than anything else, that is not to say that he didn't have any information or was not privy to some knowledge but he was basically a lazy bum who liked to tack himself on where he thought he could get some good press or enhance his image, without really doing any work. He allowed an image to develop about him which had him being the nexus of many different things going on at the time. It may be he was played like a violin by the CIA and others and was a convenient throw away when the time came to shake things up. I, for one, would certainly like to see more of this information come to light, BTW what is the deal with his extradiction anyway? ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] C-SPAN: WHAT HAPPENED?
-Caveat Lector- Subject: C-SPAN: WHAT HAPPENED? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:43:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by deliver4.usit.net id CAA18194 Hello. My name is Bob Schulz. I chair the We The People organization which sponsored the Citizens' Summit To End The Illegal Operations Of The IRS, which was held at the National Press Club last Saturday. I am sending this message to you, and to hundreds of other interested Citizens, who have asked why C-SPAN didn't broadcast the Summit. I don't know why C-SPAN failed to broadcast the event. What I can tell you are the facts as I know them. The following is a copy of an article I posted on our web site this evening. See www.givemeliberty.org. If you are interested in the issue of the constitutionality of the income and social taxes and legality of the operations of the IRS, and what you and we can do about it, you may want to visit our web site. We especially encourage you to read and sign the Remonstrance and to follow the developments relating to the April 13, 2000 event. After you have read the piece that follows, and reviewed our web site, if you have any comments or questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Stay well and stay vigilant! C-SPAN: WHAT HAPPENED? We The People's July Symposium on the Legality Of The Income and Social Security Taxes, held at the National Press Club in Washingtion DC, was broadcast live on C-SPAN 2, and rebroadcast several times. C-SPAN was contacted, thoroughly informed and enlisted to broadcast the Citizens' Summit To End The Illegal Operations Of the IRS, which was held on Saturday, November 13, 1999, but C-SPAN was a "no-show." It not only failed to broadcast the event live, as it did in July, but it also failed to tape the event for later broadcast. What was the public's reaction to this? Beginning as early as Saturday, November 13th, and continuing through Monday, November 15, 1999, C-SPAN received a flood of e-mails, faxes, and phone calls from people all across the country, asking why the Citizens' Summit was not being broadcast, or had not been broadcast, by C-SPAN. On Monday, November 15, 1999, C-SPAN started to respond to the people's inquiries with a standard message which read: "C-SPAN never said that we would cover the event. Our editorial board did not even consider it because they had no information about it. Apparantly there is a misleading e-mail message making the rounds that claims we were scheduled to cover the event. I am sorry to inform you that this was never true, and that the IRS Symposium at the National Press Club will not air on C-SPAN or C-SPAN 2." Upon learning of C-SPAN'S response, we immediately telephoned C-SPAN and spoke to "Marsha" and then "Justin," both from C-SPAN's "Viewer Services." We told them that they should not be telling people that C-SPAN had "no information" about the meeting, because it was not true, and people at C-SPAN knew that it was not true. We informed Marsha and Justin that we could easily show that C-SPAN'S assignment desk and, therefore, its editorial board knew about the meeting and its agenda well in advance of C-SPAN's daily afternoon editorial board meeting on Friday, November 12, 1999, at which it decided which of the following day's events it would broadcast live, which it would tape for later broadcast and which it would not cover at all. Marsha agreed to immediately stop giving out the inaccurate response and to direct all inquiries on the subject to our website and to our e-mail address. Under the facts and circumstances of the matter, we are as troubled over C-SPAN's behavior as are so many other people. Due to the widespread and intense interest in the issue, we offer here the facts as we know them. First, C-SPAN's web site (www.c-span.org) encourages people to e-mail C-SPAN at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to suggest events those people would like C-SPAN to cover. Note: For 6-8 weeks leading up to our July Symposium on the Legality of The Income and Social Security Taxes, and for 6-8 weeks leading up to the November 13th Citizens' Summit we received copies of e-mail messages people from towns across America had sent to C-SPAN requesting C-SPAN to cover the respective events. Second. Because so many "off-hill" events take place in Washington DC everyday, C-SPAN does not decide which "off-hill" event it will cover until its daily, afternoon editorial board meeting the day before the event is scheduled to take place. With respect to each suggestion and request, C-SPAN decides to either cover the event live, tape it for later broadcast or not cover the event at all.C-SPAN has people who work at their "assignment desk," and gather the needed information about each event for presentation at the daily, afternoon editorial board meeting. Sponsors of events could submit the information about their event to C-SPAN long before the event is scheduled to take place. However, the assignment desk people usually do no
[CTRL] Jim Keith Online Wake ?
-Caveat Lector- News update 10/9 WAS JIM KEITH COMMANDER X? http://users.intercomm.com/gpickard/jimkeith/ Welcome to the Jim Keith Online Wake! READ DIANA ARTICLE HERE ! Grab yourself a beer, and join friends in remembering one of this planets coolest beings. This site is dedicated to the memory of James Keith, author and avatar-- the man who knew too much. Here you will find a host of JK lore ! Links ! News ! Rumors ! We hope that you will help us celebrate his life by contributing a memory of your own. Thanks for coming, God bless... We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Speculation "Are we better than Animals?"
-Caveat Lector- L. Shipton wrote: > If Jefferson were to drop in he could teach the current law > class if very little time. > I doubt this. First, no college would let such a radical teach. Second, he would be so angry at what had been done to the country that he probably would be too busy learning how to shoot an assault weapon and organize a militia to take the time to teach. Thirdly, even if he were allowed to teach and could control his temper enough to take the time, he would not understand how the commerce clause had been interpreted into the establishment of a completely different system which he would not be able to teach. Howard Davis DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PJ lied under oath?
-Caveat Lector- At 06:02 PM 1/16/99 -0600, LM wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Assuming, arguendo, that your imaginary scenario is true, it proves nothing >other than Clinton is lacking in self-control and easily manipulated. The >rest is entertaining, but clearly irrelevant. > >Barb > > >On the contrary. It indicates a well-orchestrated cabal planned a coup >d'etat. The people who planned it are of the same ilk as those who killed >John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King. But they found they can >only murder so many important political figures without making people >suspicious. (Who would have ever thought 35 years later people like some of >us on this list are still determined to find out who did it.) So the next >best option is to destroy the credibility and reputation of the individual. >If you don't believe such conspiracies exist, why do you subscribe to this >list? > >Linda Are you saying that one must believe ANYTHING in order to subscribe to this list? Come up with proof, or even a set a facts from which a reasonable person would conclude your story is plausible, otherwise it's just that - a story. Since you seem very convinced, and recite your story as if factual, it would be helpful to me if you could provide at least one or two specific details, eg, who are the members of this cabal, how do they choose their victims, are they all the victims of this group "important political figures," what is the agenda of this group, etc. Sorry, it just seems improbable to me that it would take a well-orchestrated cabal, major planning, and an entire caste of characters flawlessly executing pre-planned movements to get Clinton to drop his pants, or lie, etc. Barb > >DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER >== >CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic >screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters >and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright >frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects >spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL >gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; >be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and >nazi's need not apply. > >Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > >Archives Available at: >http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > >http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > >To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Battle for Your Mind
-Caveat Lector- Hi ! Below please find a URL with information on mind control. Sincerely, Neil Brick PS I apologize if this is a repeat for some people. http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/sutphen/brainwsh.html The Battle for Your Mind by Dick Sutphen Persuasion and Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public Today Summary Of Contents Introduction The Birth of Conversion: Brainwashing in Christian Revivalism in 1735. The Three Brain Phases: The Pavlovian Explanation How Revivalist Preachers Work The "Voice Roll" Technique The Build-up Process.: Inducing Altered States Assured Continuation: Fleecing the Flock Bonding by Fear and Suggestion Testimony: Creating Community Spirit Miracles The Grey Area of Legitimacy A Game in Which the Rules Keep Changing Six Conversion Techniques Isolation Intimidation, Deprivation and Indoctrination. The "Sell It By Zealot" Technique. Wearing Down Resistance Increasing Tension Introducing Uncertainty About Identity Jargon Lack of Humor: No Release, No Resistance Not Always a Bad Thing Cults: A Captive Course in Stockholm Syndrome The Only Hope of Immunity The US Marines as a Brainwashing Cult Steps in the Decognition Process Alertness reduction Programmed Confusion Thought Stopping Thought Stopping Techniques. Marching Meditation Chanting True believers and mass movements. Persuasion techniques: "Yes Set" Embedded Commands The Power of NLP Interspersal Technique Practical Examples Shock and Confusion Subliminal Programming Does Subliminal Programming Work? Mass Misuse of Subliminal Programming Vibrato Extra-low Frequency Vibrations (ELFs) The Neurophone Technological Tools for Mass Manipulation In Closing... DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Hillary: It Takes a Village -- on Mars
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- > > Subject: Hillary: It Takes a Village -- on Mars > > ``We will all be reliving, through these young people's imagination, what it > means to create a new world,'' Ms. Clinton said during the kickoff at the > National Air and Space Museum, part of the Smithsonian Institution. > > The idea is to get pupils and high school students working with scientists and > technicians on the design for a permanent Mars settlement, according to > officials at the National Endowment for the Arts, which is putting $500,000 > into the project. Half a million for this? I thought the National Endowment for the Arts was on a tight budget. I guess there is always money for propaganda. Howard Davis DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Military Assault On Times Square New Years Eve 1999?
-Caveat Lector- On 18 Nov 99, at 13:37, earthman wrote: > Military Assault On Times Square New Years Eve 1999? > > Download this video of a military(?) officer explaining to his troups > how to participate in a massacre that will occur in Times Square at > midnight 12/31/99 as well as other cities around the world. That's the NWO for you--party poopers!! sno0wl DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: Clinton Y2K Bunker / NBC Y2K Scare Film
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Nov 99, at 10:24, Mack White wrote: > XXX DRUDGE REPORT X SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 1999 18:01:22 ET X > > NBC'S Y2K SCARE MOVIE SET FOR AIR; NETWORK PRESS RELEASES BLUR NEWS > AND ENTERTAINMENT > > Anticipation is building for NBC's upcoming Y2K scare movie, now set > to run during a sweet November Sweeps spot. > > The fuss film, set to air on November 21, has been criticized for > exploiting and cashing in on the nation's Y2K fears. > > Last month a lawmaker on the Senate Special Committee on the Year 2000 > Technology Problem blasted the project: "This is one of the most > irresponsible things to ever come out of Hollywood! Why is NBC doing > this? There are going to end up scaring people into a complete panic. > Shame, shame, shame on them!" As any enterprising journalist, publisher, or marketeer knows (Mr. Drudge???) fear and sex sell. Not sure which sells more but I suspect it's fear. sno0wl DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Visit the Hunger Site
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Nov 99, at 23:15, Rory Winter wrote: >. The Washington Post (USA) - "Think of all the time you spend > clicking aimlessly or fruitlessly around the Web. At the Hunger > Site, one click actually accomplishes something: It sends a > serving of food to a starving person, at no cost to you. > Corporate sponsors provide the food in exchange for free > advertisement and links. Since its June 1 start-up, the site has > sent enough money to the United Nations' World Food Program to > purchase more than 4 million servings of dietary staples; a WFP > official calls it 'an extraordinary testimony to the power of > the Internet.' The privacy-protected site is run without profit > by John Breen, an Indiana software programmer who initially > wanted to support Third World education but decided hunger was > the priority. As his world map arrestingly illustrates, > starvation kills 24,000 people daily, most of them children." > > http://www.thehungersite.com/ I have my "favorites" set up so the site is grouped with my "personal pages" and try to go there once a day and give it a click. sno0wl DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Drug)War, Mike Ruppert GPW2000 support letter
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Nov 99, at 14:49, JAH Publications wrote: > WHY PEOPLE REALLY TAKE DRUGS > > > A few "pleasant" effects of some drugs: > > > ALCOHOL - makes most of us "happy", initially, and creates the > illusion of general friendship; others can be aggressive. > > TOBACCO - calms nerves by relieving the craving it has created. > > VALIUMS - remove (numb) the pain and revulsion at the world that we > have created. > > AMPHETAMINES - give us energy and intensity of thought. > > CANNABIS - provokes short-term "peace of mind"; relaxation > and thought. > > ECSTASY - provokes emotion that people think is joy and love. > > L.S.D. - causes pleasure and a magnified appreciation of the awesome > immensity of reality. I HEROIN - creates a "shield" or "bubble" that protects one from the > "outside world vibes". nteresting--this is the part about drugs that NO ONE talks about-- the part about pleasure and relief. Imagine Nancy Regan telling the whole world--and especially all the young people to just say NO to pleasure and relief. And yes, Jah or whoever, I think you are quite right about this. sno0wl DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) - Save our seeds!
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Hi Everyone: Below is a sample letter to the parties listed requesting the denying of Monsanto right to a patent to sterlize heriloom seeds. If this goes through, farmers and hobby growers would not be able to save seeds because they would be sterile! This greed can be stopped if enough people write now. This issue is due for a vote soon! If you want to help send the letter below, or one of your own composition, using your name, to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, please CC. copies to the list of C.C. copies that are listed at the end of the letter. It would also help to send this to anyone you know who might want to help. Thanks! Namaste! Marilyn The Honorable Dan Glickman Secretary of Agriculture 200-A Whitten Bldg. 1400 Independence Ave., SW Washington DC 20250 FROM: Concerned Citizen, Marilyn Wright, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (put your name here) Dear Secretary Glickman, I am writing to ask that the USDA immediately cease negotiations to license the Terminator technology to a Monsanto subsidiary (Delta and Pine Land Co.). I also urge the USDA to abandon its worldwide patent applications on this immoral and dangerous technology. The Terminator technology (US patent #5,723,765) is a genetic technology that renders farm-saved seed sterile. This technology has no agronomic benefit and should never see the commercial light of day. The Terminator violates Farmers' Rights and threatens agricultural biodiversity. The Terminator isn't about improving agriculture, it is about sterilizing seeds, wresting control of seeds and plant breeding from farmers, and fattening Monsanto's profits. According to Delta and Pine Land, Monsanto stands to make as much as US $1.5 billion per year using the Terminator to force farmers to return to the commercial seed market every year. This is not progress, it is a threat to global food security and an egregious use of public research money. As a public agency dedicated to promoting agriculture, USDA should be taking steps to safeguard the rights of farmers to save seed, not designing technologies to eliminate those rights. In light of the alarming rate of consolidation in the seed industry, I urge USDA to launch a public inquiry into the impacts of seed industry consolidation on farmers and food security. The Terminator is an anti-farmer, anti-biodiversity technology - paid for by public money - and in large part aimed, according to USDA and Delta and Pine Land, at farmers in developing countries. USDA and Monsanto have indicated in Patent Cooperation Treaty documents that they intend to pursue patents on the Terminator in at least 87 countries. National applications are moving forward - or have issued - in Australia, Brazil, Canada, Japan, South Africa, most European countries, and probably more jurisdictions. Scientists warn that, under certain conditions, the trait for seed sterility will flow, via pollen, from Terminator crops to surrounding plants, making the seeds of neighboring plants sterile. Given the profound risks to food security and the environment, especially in the biodiversity-rich South, the Terminator patent embodies the kind of threat to public morality described in Article 27(2) of the WTO TRIPs agreement. The Terminator technology is a dead-end for farmers and a threat to food security worldwide. It is morally unacceptable, and it must be banned. I respectfully urge you to stop the Terminator technology and cease negotiations for its commercial development. USDA should work for farmers and the people - not Monsanto. Permitting this abhorable plan would be incredibly inflationary for the citizenry and be a hardship for many. It is also never wise for man to interfere with God's plan. When the food is controlled by a conglomerate, if there is a failure in crops, there wouldn't be enough live seed in the system to avoid world wide starvation. Please use your head and heart and not sell out to industry and greed consciousness. Respectfully, Marilyn Wright cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ To UNSUBSCRIBE: Send "unsubscribe earthwaves" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ To SUBSCRIBE: Send "subscribe earthwaves" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ To SUBSCRIBE ANOTHER: Type "subscribe earthwaves [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ^^ All commands should be placed in body of message, with no quotes ^^ Auto-approval occurs when confirmation email is returned by subscriber ^^ Check current EQ reports: http://www.earthwaves.com/current.html DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives
Re: [CTRL] Pinochet: 01-16
-Caveat Lector- Alamaine Ratliff wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > >From wsws.org > > WSWS : News & Analysis : South & Central America > > Chilean government to make presentation to the Pinochet hearing > > By Julie Hyland > 16 January, 1999 > > The House of Lords has ruled that the Chilean government will be able to > make representations to next week's hearing to decide if General Augusto > Pinochet is immune from prosecution for human rights abuses. > One thing that is interesting to me is the statement that has been made that the House of Lords is the highest authority in the United Kingdom and if Pinochet loses there he cannot appeal. This is interesting in that the fact that the House of Lords is hearing an appeal indicates that the rule of royalty is still in place there. If this is so, why could not Pinochet appeal to a higher authority which would be the soveriegn. That, of course, would mean that Queen Elizabeth would have to rule on the case. No matter what the ruling, it would shake things up. Does anyone know why this could not be done? Howard Davis DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Antichrist a Jew, Says Falwell
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Falwell: Antichrist Probably Jewish > > WILLIAMSBURG, Va. (AP) -- The Rev. Jerry Falwell said the Antichrist is > probably alive today and is a male Jew. He also believes the second coming of > Christ probably will be within 10 years. > Have any of you heard of the messiah that Benjamin Creme is promoting? I don't think that he is jewish, but I believe he is semetic. He is supposed to be alive, but not out in public. BTW, this is the second time Theosophist have promoted a second coming. The last was 60 some years ago and was a young Indian who eventually denounced the promoters. He later became a well known philosopher/mystic named something like Krishna Namurati. Howard Davis DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Crowley & Freemasonry
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/18/99 11:58:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > FWIW, I've run across a story about one of the "retreats" at the Wewelsburg > called by Himmler for his twelve SS-Gruppenführer (generals), including, of > course, Heydrich. (That there were twelve of them was not a coincidence; > Himmler deliberately invoked the image of the Knights of the Round Table.) > Each man was assigned a room (identified by a medieval knight's heraldic > shield, probably drawn from the Arthurian legends), where he was supposed to > meditate on the classics of German literature, such as *Das Niebelungenlied* > or *Parzival*. And most of them duly, if awkwardly, did just that. Heydrich, > however, did not. Defying Himmler's instructions, he had packed a bottle of > Schnapps, several packs of cigarettes, and a detective novel, and while his > colleagues were contemplating such figures as Siegfried and Klingsor, > Heydrich stretched out comfortably with the latest "Krimi." > > Himmler and Heydrich were merely two sides of the same coin. Himmler > believed in the occult, as did many of the Nazi Reichsleiter; Heydrich did > not believe in anything except Heydrich, a belief system shared by quite a > few of the Nazi elite. When Heydrich banned all occult groups and practices, > his objective was to focus the attention of the masses entirely on the > person of Adolf Hitler and the institution of the NSDAP. Himmler's seances > were *not* public affairs; they were intended to raise supernatural power > for the benefit specifically of the SS and particularly its Reichsführer, > Heinrich Himmler. Both Himmler and Heydrich were concerned solely with > power, however that might manifest itself. That Heydrich was a thoroughgoing > cynic (as befitted a Nazi leader who may well have been part Jewish) and > Himmler was a complete, even credulous, believer, becomes essentially > irrelevant in considering their respective roles in the history of the Third > Reich. What matters is the way they exercised their very considerable power, > and the way they increased that power by manipulating the structure and the > symbols of the Nazi state. > Thank you. I am familiar with the story you relate about the happenings at Wewelsburg. I believe that Himmler because of his more credible nature lacked the focus that was necessary to do the job that needed to be done. I believe he spread himself too thin. I believe that Heydrich was a much bigger threat because he had his minds eye focussed on the objective always. That is the only point I wished to make, and I certainly agree with the rest of your comments. Credibility for the occult and supernatural in no way make a person "less" evil for his actions or potential harm, neither does it necessarily make that person not intelligent enough to make sharp decisions when necessary. There was most assuredly a difference between the two men. Because of that difference I'm glad it was not Heydrich in charge of the SS later in the war. ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Speculation "Are we better than Animals?"
Let us speculate for a moment. Warning this is dangerous speculation. What if everyone classified as "Homo Sapiens" could have the same intellectual capabilities? What if a animal could technically learn as much as many "Homo Sapiens"? What would differentiate us from the animals? The only thing that I can think of is the fact that we have the potential to comprehend better DUE to the fact that we are in our environment. Example: it would be a bit hard for an ape to do fine electronics. That leads me to a question. If we are DESCENDED from the Apes, Why are there still Apes? Where would this lead to? The Human Genome Project! also it would imply that we can all have high IQs that the only stumbling block is nutrition. What would happen to many "Professionals"? For people to have multiple degrees? For people to critic the "Professionals" God created the earth in six days and on the seventh day God rested. On the seventh day we rest. We study God's word. We worship. We are educated. Education was a day of rest. Many times the Bible was the only book in the house. Religion was Education. When did it become work that we consider some people burn out, or drop out from? Jesus was reported to be able to debate the Bible at the age of 12. If Edison were to drop in on us he would (probably) be able to teach a electronics class in a week, if it took him that long to update his terms. If Jefferson were to drop in he could teach the current law class if very little time. So what has happened to education AND why??? Laura AKA The Pied Piper http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm1. Take the 60-day No Aspartame Test and send us your case history. Mission Possible International5950-H State Bridge Rd. #215 Duluth, GA 30097 USA 2. Tell your doctor and all of your friends! 3. Return Asparcidal food to the store.(anything with Monsanto's NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Benevia/NatraTaste) VISIT http://www.dorway.com Get links to over 30 sites on aspartameVISIT http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ ..FAQs & CasesVISIT http://www.notmilk.com Exposing Bovine Growth Hormone Disability and Death are not acceptable costs of business!
[CTRL] vote.com & cannabis medicine poll
-Caveat Lector- Dick Morris was on Larry King tonight touting his new book Vote.Com and website of same name. Polls (votes) collected and tabulated at that site last a period of days on each issue and each vote is emailed to your congressman and senators etc. One issue vote/poll now still there for 4more days is medical marijuana. As of Nov18 7:45PM PST the vote was about 30%no 70%yes. Discussion and email comments on the issues can also be posted there. Since it is not the latest issue this and other polls are at: http://www.vote.com/vList/ DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PJ lied under oath?
-Caveat Lector- Assuming, arguendo, that your imaginary scenario is true, it proves nothing other than Clinton is lacking in self-control and easily manipulated. The rest is entertaining, but clearly irrelevant. Barb On the contrary. It indicates a well-orchestrated cabal planned a coup d'etat. The people who planned it are of the same ilk as those who killed John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King. But they found they can only murder so many important political figures without making people suspicious. (Who would have ever thought 35 years later people like some of us on this list are still determined to find out who did it.) So the next best option is to destroy the credibility and reputation of the individual. If you don't believe such conspiracies exist, why do you subscribe to this list? Linda DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Carter's Hostage Rescue "Failure"
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/18/99 5:08:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > But not the first time a VP in the background has run the show. I keep > running into references to the little-known fact that when Allen Dulles was > ill between 1956-1957, vice president Richard Nixon actually ran the CIA -- > and through it, US foreign policy.. This is extremely interesting news. . . ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu" DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: They're at it Again!
-Caveat Lector- Hi everyone! Forwarding the information below for those who may want to respond. Congress will . CNN stated that the Government would be voting in less than two weeks time to decide to allow or not allow a charge to your phone bill equal to a Long Distance call EACH time you access the Internet. The address is http://www.house.gov/writerep/ If you choose, visit the address above and fill out the necessary form! If EACH one of us, forward this message on to others in a hurry, we may be able to prevent this injustice from happening! Do your part or we may end up paying$. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Left, Right, or Wrong
-Caveat Lector- >From http://www.uexpress.com/ups/opinion/column/wb/ On the Right by William F. Buckley Jr. STUPID? IGNORANT? SEDUCED? CONTRARY? The analysis of the problems faced by senators in their upcoming confrontation with impeachment goes on day and night. In a half-day's survey of data floating about, the reader/viewer comes upon a professor who explains that the big difference in the congressional scene is that congressmen are selected from narrowly specified areas and can therefore execute customized mandates. Senators, by contrast, represent amalgams. This fact, the professor concluded, means that the great current popularity of President Clinton (73 percent) will more likely be reflected by the second chamber, which will decline to convict, in contrast to the first chamber, which proceeded to impeach. A second item of the day was an account of Marion Barry's final departure from office as mayor of Washington, D.C. He is planning, one hears, to settle down in Alexandria. This recalls a blurb given by Evelyn Waugh to Nancy Mitford for one of her books. Mr. Waugh did a little biographical summary that ended, "After the war, Miss Mitford voted the socialist ticket. Having done her best to make England uninhabitable, she went to France to live." A third item was an obituary note in The New Yorker on the author William Gaddis. "He found everything artificial and deceptive and conspiratorial -- counterfeit. That was his great theme. After all, Gaddis himself once remarked, 'Stupidity -- and I don't mean ignorance -- is a central issue of our time.'" Is that the right way to describe the rise in popularity of Bill Clinton to the all-time high of 73 percent following upon his impeachment by the majority of the elected legislators in Washington? Note, we are talking here about popularity, not about ouster from office. Something is askew when popularity goes up after a weighty tribunal decides that there is reason to remove someone from office on the grounds that he has lied and tried to obstruct justice. Mayor Barry was caught smoking crack cocaine and after that he was re-elected to a fourth term. What do those popularity figures tell us? Thirty years ago, opposing the then-equivalent of today's motor voting bill (you effect voter registration when you go pick up your driver's license), I was angrily accosted by a public figure who demanded to know just who I thought should not vote. My answer, the 30 percent of Americans who have never heard of the United Nations. That was the figure, in the late '60s, and I don't know what a comparable datum today would hang on --Identify the Civil War? One-third of students asked that question, not long ago, failed to place the Civil War within 50 years of when it happened. In this space a few weeks ago I noted the answers given on a college quiz administered to 27 students, including upperclassmen, to the question, "Name a composer of classical music who wrote music in the 20th century." Twenty-two students out of the 27 couldn't come up with anybody. One named Yanni; one Randy Rhoads (rock guitarist); one, Beethoven; one, Pavarotti. For some reason, William Gaddis refused to name such gentry as ignorant -- he insisted they were stupid. He was wrong, of course. We come now to the mystifying paradox, revealed yet again in an analysis of the educational background of the voters of New York in the last election. Those who had less than high school training tended most heavily to vote Democratic. Those who graduated from high school and from college tended to vote Republican. Ah, but those who went on to postgraduate work tended to vote Democratic. They had presumably sublimated the stratospheric insights of the illiterate class. But we are counseled to focus on the spin factor. If the information is so deployed as to confuse, or to excite irrelevant emotions, then you are not getting a disinterested reading of public opinion. "60 Minutes" recently examined a focus group in which it was documented that Clinton had only to mention "private life" in order to get an acquiescent jolt on the popularity meter. "Perjury" got a negative reaction. These data, it was told, are devoured by the White House before any public pronouncements are made. Read large-screen, this seems to be saying: A lot of Americans have been seduced into thinking that a vote against Clinton is a vote to unlock their bedroom doors. Therefore? Therefore tell Gallup you are pro-Clinton. Some representatives of the ACLU like to bemoan the hypothesis that most Americans would vote against the Bill of Rights if it were proffered as a fresh piece of legislation. But the same kind of people who back the ACLU are enthusiastic these days about the popularity of Mr. Clinton at large. These American intellectuals run into each other at the corner, coming from different directions. How to go? Fatalistically. Remember, only in America, where wonderful things also happen. COPYRIGHT 1999 UNIVERSAL PRE
Re: [CTRL] Lundberg dismissal
-Caveat Lector- Under the editorial direction of George Lundberg, JAMA produced three issues in 1992-1993 attempting to re-establish the lone-nut theory about the JFK assassination through interviews with the autopsy doctors. The articles were as filled with holes as the theory, moreso now in light of the last revelations of the Assassination Materials Review Board about the two separate JFK brain exams. Lundberg was on a debate panel in '93 at the Midwest Symposium on the Assassination in Chicago that was thoroughly routed by the researchers on the other side, including Gary Aquilar and David Lifton. kt >>This just in-- >> >>Unclear on exact details, but this is rich: The Editor of the JAMA >>(Journal of the American Medical Institution) has just been fired by the >>President of JAMA [or Editor fired a subordinate?] for publishing a sex >>study that states that most college students would not *say* they had >>"had sex" with regard to having had "oral sex". >> >>In other words, in their original Affidavits, both Bill Clinton and >>Monica stated they had not "had sex". On her illegally and >>surrepticiously being taped by Linda Tripp (who "led" Monica and cajoled >>on this and other key points), Monica insisted repeatedly that she and >>Clinton "never had sex", although they "fooled around" a little. >>Everyone was happy with these definitions until Monica's handpicked >>atty. (who could make no satisfactory proffer to placate Sex Police >>Commandant, Herr Starr and Monica insisted she stood by her sworn >>Affidavit) was replaced by a team of attys. who used to work in >>high-profile cases for Republican insiders (I sensed a conflict of >>interest at the time and worried for both Monica and Bill). SUDDENLY: >>Monica was browbeaten in changing her story about "sex" (probably >>threatened and convinced she'd be in leg-irons for the next X-number of >>years, ala Susan McDougal) unless she went along with Starr's version of >>"the trusth". >> >>BUT NOW: To fire a person for publishing a scientific study that shows >>that most people apparently go along with the *dictionary* definition, >>as well as what Bill and Monica has been using as a definition all >>along, is grounds for dismissal, since its publication occured during >>the Impeachment trial of Clinton on that very key issue. (!) Stay >>tuned! --gv DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] overcoming learning dis - Abilties
http://add.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa120898.htm This is a great site. Talks about a football player that sacked his disability. Also about 3/4ths of the way down the page is a rectangular gold box that has these words Neil Smith isn't the first person with an LD to say "Yes I Can!" See Delphi's BIG List of Famous People with Learning Disabilities it is a link to the biggest list of names of people that have had learning disabilities that I have found. Though the current focus seems to be dyslexia, the site is actually about ADD / ADHD. Laura http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm1. Take the 60-day No Aspartame Test and send us your case history. Mission Possible International5950-H State Bridge Rd. #215 Duluth, GA 30097 USA 2. Tell your doctor and all of your friends! 3. Return Asparcidal food to the store.(anything with Monsanto's NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful/Benevia/NatraTaste) VISIT http://www.dorway.com Get links to over 30 sites on aspartameVISIT http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ ..FAQs & CasesVISIT http://www.notmilk.com Exposing Bovine Growth Hormone Disability and Death are not acceptable costs of business!
Re: [CTRL] PJ lied under oath?
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 16 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >It's interesting as a matter of discussion, but for some it's a matter of >getting fired. According to the AP writer, Brenda Coleman (reported in my >morning paper), one Dr. George D. Lundberg, editor of The Journal of the >American Medical Association for l7 years was fired Friday for publishing a >what-is-sex survey of college students to coincide with President Clinton's >impeachment trial. The article - "Would You Say You Had Sex' If...? found >that 59 percent of college students surveyed did not consider having oral sex >as having "had sex." What is and what isn't having sexual relations is >obviously very serious business. Or at least it is to the AMA. Prudy What I read was that the guy was fired not for publishing the study, but deliberately pushing up it's scheduled publication date to coincide with the impeachment hearings...apparantly it was originally scheduled to appear in the Journal a few months from now...and the AMA quite correctly deemed the editorial decision to publish earlier an inapproprate decision based solely on politics, and not the science (or supposed science) of the study. June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Global Warming Science vs. Politicians]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Global Warming Science vs. Politicians Date: 17 Nov 1999 21:11:59 - From: "Common Courage Political Literacy Course" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: List Member <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Information about this email course appears at the bottom. Science, Public Relations and Global Warming Despite a hot summer of forest fires and drought, are warnings of global warming overheated? A string of apocalyptic false alarms counsels skepticism. Remember the 1980s anti-nuclear war movement? How about more recent apocalyptic writings like Richard Preston's "The Hot Zone" where the outbreak of a deadly germ threatens the world? Or the economic doomsday scenarios--remember Japan the juggernaught? Remember the federal-budget deficit? In the fall of 1999, even Y2K began to look like a bust for those head-for-the-hills enthusiasts. How do we know the fevered fretting over global warming isn't just more hot air? In "The Heat Is On: The High Stakes Battle Over Earth's Threatened Climate," Pulitzer-Prize-winning investigative reporter Ross Gelbspan demonstrates why the issue stands apart from other crisis scenarios. As Antarctic ice shelves the size of Rhode Island crack and slide into the sea, with termites overrunning New Orleans in the wake of five consecutive winters without a killing frost, as El Niño's vast pool of warm Pacific Ocean persists into a 5-year existence that would naturally occur only once every 2000 years, global warming is as much a part of the present as it is a prediction of the future. "Global average temperatures have risen about .5 degrees celsius (about 1 degree fahrenheit) during the past 140 years," notes Michael MacCracken, director of the U.S. Global Change Research Program. Turning to the future, within a few short decades the 6 billion tons of carbon humans pump into the lower atmosphere every year will double the level of carbon dioxide in the air from its preindustrial levels. Global average temperature is predicted to rise between 1.5 and 4.5 C by the year 2100, with 2.5 degrees pegged as the best estimate in a 1995 report on Global Warming by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), an international group of 2,500 scientists. If correct, 2.5 degrees would be 6 times the rate of warming over the last century. Worldwide debate over global warming centers on issues of speed and impact under a consensus that the planet is heating up. Only in the United States and such pockets of self-interest as Saudi Arabia is the existence of global warming an open question. Arguments that global warming is either modest, nonexistent, or beneficial are not credible. Opposition to the fact of global warming comes not from distinguished scientists but from those who are often in the pay of industry, whose work doesn't pass muster of the peer review process to warrant publication in scientific journals. Take S. Fred Singer, a founding member of the European Science and Environment Forum, the European branch of skeptics. He was a central figure in a planned PR campaign to subvert the signing of the Rio treaty limiting greenhouse emissions. Singer attacked the IPCC report, noting that the warming "trend over the last 20 years is negative... In other words the trend depends entirely on how one selects the time interval." Singer further accuses the IPCC of having glossed over or suppressed data that suggests global warming hasn't been happening in recent years. Dr. Benjamin Santer, of the Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Intercomparison at the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory and lead author of chapter 8 of the report, refutes this handily: "Singer's basic problem here is he does not understand the concepts of signal and noise." Temperature measurements over short periods of one or two decades cannot transcend the noise of natural climate variation to read the signals of human-induced changes. It takes a span of 50 years or longer for the human impact to be clearly measurable. If the skeptics' arguments are annoying, their warm reception in Washington will make any fair-minded reader's blood boil. Money's voice can silence science. In 1995, the chair of the House Science Subcommittee on Energy and the Environment Republican Dana Rohrabacher held hearings on "Scientific Integrity and the Public Trust," which he opened with a discussion of the growing ozone hole. He characterized it as "another basically the sky-is-falling cry from an environmental Chicken Little..." When confronted with the fact that Singer doesn't publish in peer review journals, Representative John Doolitte, another skeptic, demonstrated a total lack of understanding that such publication is a critical step to validating any scientific research. "[I]'m not going to get involved in a mumbo-jumbo of peer-reviewed documents," he preached, "...under this Congress, we're going to get to the truth and not just academic politics." If credibility just gets in the way i
[CTRL] Good news for "the people" , death knell for GE/GM Frankenfood
-Caveat Lector- Congratulations People ! A quote regarding Monsanto and FrankenFoods: "I think the old concept of life sciences is on life support," said William Fiala, an analyst for the Edward Jones brokerage. We're beating the tar out of Monsanto; the issue has also been VERY USEFUL in terms of educating farmers on ORGANIC, and bringing awareness of FrankenFoods and other unnecessary and/or DANGEROUS food additives to the attention of food broker's and major chain store owners. http://www.monsantosucks.com This death merchant deserves corporate death- charter revocation. KEEP up the PRESSURE, and keep up the good work ! Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Richard Wolfson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 4:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GENew11-18 summary Here is a recent summary of GE news compiled by Mothers for Natural Law For those who can afford it, we ask $35/yr to receive our regular GE Email news postings, which we send out several times a week. . Mothers for Natural Law of the Natural Law Party Biweekly News 99/11/17 Thanks to Dennis Dey, Richard Wolfson, and NLP Wessex for these items. 1. Iceland boss to freeze out meat reared on GM feed 2. Korea's tofu makers want to cultivate non-GM beans abroad 3. [China - regulating genetically modified foods] 4. Italy blocks GM crops 5. Carlsberg to brew beer only from malt to avoid GM substances 6. Vitasoy does not use genetically modified soybeans 7. Government lab to set biotech detection methods 8. Studies note risks of genetically modified plants 9. 100-Year drought is no match for organic soybeans 10. Monsanto faces its many options 11. Lawmakers seek special labeling for genetically engineered food 12. Consortium calls for suspension of release of all genetically engineered organisms 13. List of approved GE foods in Canada Articles have been aggressively shortened. -- Iceland Boss to Freeze out Meat Reared on GM Feed Sunday Mirror, 7th November Iceland boss Malcolm Walker is taking on the High Street giants in a new round of the GM-free food war. Last week, he banned artificially-coloured eggs from his nationwide chain. Now he plans to remove meat and poultry reared on GM feed. The ban, to start in the New Year, will force rival stores to follow suit. Suppliers have warned him the competition think he's "rocking the boat" but he is determined to carry on... ...On Friday, days after his yolk-colouring ban, nearly all 760 shops sold out of eggs. Iceland was the first to withdraw GM ingredients from own-brand products 18 months ago. Mr Walker said: "All we are advocating is the removal of additives that are not really necessary." -- Copyright 1999 Asia Pulse Pte Limited ASIA PULSE Korea's Tofu Makers want to Cultivate Non-GM Beans Abroad Seoul, Nov 4 The Korean Bean Processing Association and the Korea Soybean Food Association said Thursday that they want to cultivate non-genetically modified (non-GM) beans through free contracts with farming groups in the United States, Canada and Australia... Meanwhile the Korea Consumer Protection Board said Wednesday that a GM bean ingredient has been found in 18 tofu (bean curd) products out of 22 examined, or 81.8 percent, and many famous tofu makers were also found to have used GM beans imported from the United States. (Yonhap) -- [China - regulating genetically modified foods] November 1, 1999 BEIJING - AP World News via NewsEdge Corporation: A senior Chinese legislator called on Friday for legislation to regulate genetically modified foods, adding China to the list of countries that have raised concerns about the controversial technology. ``Whether imported or domestically produced, GM food should be regulated before it is put into the market and on people's dinner tables,'' Wang Tao, a member of the legislature's executive committee, was quoted as saying by the official Xinhua News Agency. -- Italy blocks GM crops Xinhua via NewsEdge Corporation: ROME (Nov. 5) XINHUA - Italian Farm Minister Paolo De Castro on Friday blocked three genetically modified (GM) crops - maize, soya and chicory - that had completed testing and were ready to proceed to field planting... For the moment, De Castro has also halted all new GM testing programs. He said he wanted responsibility for the schemes to be shared by regional governments before giving the go-ahead. De Castro's decision was welcomed by the Italian Green party, whose Lower House whip Mauro Paissan said the experimental growing of GM crops in Italy was being carried out without the necessary precautions or controls. -- Copyright 1999 AFP-Extel News Limited Extel Examiner November 12, 1999 Friday 11:35AM Eastern Time Carlsberg to Brew Beer only from Malt to Avoid GM Substances Carlsberg AS said it will henceforth brew it
[CTRL] Koreana: 01-16
-Caveat Lector- >From Reuters Friday January 15 5:13 AM ET Cohen Allows S.Korea To Develop Long-Range Missiles Reuters Photo SEOUL (Reuters) - Defense Secretary William Cohen gave the green light to South Korea to develop longer-range missiles to deal with perceived threats posed by its neighbor North Korea, a Korean defense ministry spokesman said Friday. Cohen and South Korean Defense Minister Cheon Yong-taek discussed the missile development during their annual bilateral security talks Friday, he said. ``Cohen approved the development of longer-range missiles in a positive and favorable manner,'' the spokesman said. When Cohen was asked for confirmation during a news conference, he said: ``We have reached an acceptable accommodation on the needs of the Republic of Korea to deal with the situation as far as the threats posed by the North.'' ``And that agreement is satisfactory with the United States,'' he said. But the spokesman said the two ministers differed on their views over the development procedures. ``The United States demanded South Korea guarantee transparency in its development of longer-range missiles, whereas South Korea said it would report its development after deployment of the missiles,'' he said. ``The two sides will continue to negotiate.'' Up until now South Korea has been restrained from developing missiles with a range of more than 180 km (112 miles) due to U.S. concerns over missile proliferation. There are nearly 37,000 U.S. troops in South Korea and tensions have risen steadily in recent months over Pyongyang's test launch of a three-stage Taepodong ballistic missile in August and intelligence indications that the North might be breaking an agreement to end its nuclear arms ambitions. >From Agence France Presse Friday January 15, 6:45 PM US offers Seoul "nuclear umbrella" against attack from North SEOUL, Jan 15 (AFP) - US and South Korean defense chiefs called on North Korea Friday to halt its long-range missile program, warning that the North could face nuclear retaliation should it launch attacks on the South. South Korean Defense Minister Chun Yong-Taek linked rumors of a looming crisis with the North this spring to fears that Pyongyang would launch another of its long-range Taepo-dong missiles. Such a launch "would indeed undermine stability on the Korean peninsula," Chun said at a news conference here with US Defense Secretary William Cohen. In a joint statement following an annual security review, Cohen and Chun "urged North Korea to cease its testing, development, deployment and export of missiles." "It is our hope that the North will see fit to reduce the tensions, to resist the temptations to launch more Taepo-dong missiles, and to create any instability in the region," Cohen said. North Korea's August 31 launch of a three-stage rocket over Japan stunned the region because it showed a dramatic improvement in the Stalinist nation's ability to strike over long distances. The United States is ready to provide a "nuclear umbrella" for South Korea if it is attacked by the North, the joint statement said, amid worries both about Pyongyang's missile program and its suspected nuclear ambitions. "Secretary Cohen reaffirmed the US commitment to render prompt and effective assistance to the ROK (South Korea) for repelling any armed attack .. and provide a nuclear umbrella for the ROK," it said. Chun said he and Cohen discussed "military-diplomatic countermeasures" to any missile launch and suspicions about an underground site in the North that Washington believes may harbour a secret nuclear complex. Cohen reiterated comments he made in Japan earlier this week that he did not discuss a military option for dealing with North Korea. However, in their joint statement, the defense ministers said they discussed early deployment of US reinforcements in the event of a crisis and deterrence against any North Korean attack which used chemical and biological weapons or missiles. Cohen and Chun said they were worried that North Korea, "despite profound economic difficulties, continues to develop and produce not only conventional weapons but also ballistic missiles and chemical and biological weapons." "They once again confirmed that the use of inhumane weaponry such as chemical and biological weapons would not be tolerated in any situation." Cohen and Chun outlined a strategy of deterrence and dialogue with North Korea, including continued four-party peace talks involving China, the United States and the two Koreas. "We will maintain a strong deterrence as we pursue dialogue with North Korea," Cohen said. Washington is pressing for access to the underground site at Kumchangri, which it suspects may be in violation of the 1994 Agreed Framework which froze North Korea's nuclear program. US and North Korean officials are due to meet Saturday in Geneva to discuss US demands for inspections of the site. North Korea has so far blocked access to the s
[CTRL] 25 Worst People of last Milenium
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! -- -- -- -- Hitler, Stalin ... and Clinton? Newspaper poll ranks president second among most evil -- -- © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com A New York Post survey of readers sampling nearly 20,000 people ranks Bill Clinton second to Adolf Hitler as the most evil person of the millennium. Hitler received 8.67 percent, or 1,664 votes, and Clinton received 8.47 percent, or 1,625, placing him well above mass-murdering Soviet leader Josef Stalin, who got 6.69 percent, or 1,284 votes. What makes the president's appearance on the survey more astonishing is respondents had to write his name in, while Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Dr. Josef Mengele and others were listed on the survey. First lady Hillary Clinton came in sixth on the survey, with 3.99 percent and 765 votes -- all write-ins. Others on the list included Saddam Hussein, Charles Manson, Idi Amin, Genghis Khan, Jeffrey Dahmer, Benito Mussolini, Ayatollah Khomeini, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Ivan the Terrible, Fidel Castro, Vlad the Impaler, Timothy McVeigh and Marquis de Sade. Here are all the 25 choices: Top 25 Most Evil People of the Millennium According to the NYPost Poll Conducted from 9/30/99-11/1/99 Among NYPost.com Users Poll Statistics TOTAL Number of Votes Received 19184 Name #ofVotes %ofVotes 1 Adolf Hitler 1664 8.67 2 Bill Clinton 1625 <--Write in 8.47 3 Josef Stalin 1284 6.69 4 Pol Pot919 4.79 5 Dr. Josef Mengele 783 4.08 6 Hilary Clinton 765 <--Write in 3.99 7 Saddam Hussein 710 3.70 8 Adolf Eichmann 641 3.34 9 Charles Manson 548 2.86 10 Idi Amin514 2.68 11 Genghis Khan 441 2.30 12 Jeffrey Dahmer 428 2.23 13 Benito Mussolini 386 2.01 14 Ayatollah Khomeini 365 1.90 15 Ted Bundy 327 1.70 16 John Wayne Gacy 312 1.63 17 Ivan the Terrible 305 1.59 18 Fidel Castro 283 1.48 19 Jim Jones 279 1.45 20 Vlad the Impaler 276 1.44 21 Timothy McVeigh 275 1.43 22 Slobodan Milosevic 242 1.26 23 Marquis de Sade 222 1.16 24 Mommar Khadafy 218 1.14 25 Jack the Ripper 203 1.06 **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] For Noah's Flood, a New Wave Of Evidence
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! For Noah's Flood, a New Wave Of Evidence By Guy Gugliotta Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, November 18, 1999; Page A01 Scientists have discovered an ancient coastline 550 feet below the surface of the Black Sea, providing dramatic new evidence of a sudden, catastrophic flood around 7,500 years ago--the possible source of the Old Testament story of Noah. A team of deep-sea explorers this summer captured the first sonar images of a gentle berm and a sandbar submerged undisturbed for thousands of years on the sea floor. Now, using radiocarbon dating techniques, analysts have shown that the remains of freshwater mollusks subsequently dredged from the ancient beach date back 7,500 years and saltwater species begin showing up 6,900 years ago. Explorer Robert D. Ballard, who led the team that collected the shells, said the findings indicate a flood occurred sometime during the 600-year gap. "What we wanted to do is prove to ourselves that it was the biblical flood," Ballard said in an interview this week. The findings offer independent verification of a theory advanced by Columbia University geologists William Ryan and Walter Pitman that the Black Sea was created when melting glaciers raised the sea level until the sea breached a natural dam at what is now the Bosporus, the strait that separates the Mediterranean Sea from the Black Sea. An apocalyptic deluge followed, inundating the freshwater lake below the dam, submerging thousands of square miles of dry land, flipping the ecosystem from fresh water to salt practically overnight, and probably killing thousands of people and billions of land and sea creatures, according to Ryan and Pitman. The two scientists described the catastrophe in their book "Noah's Flood," based on 30 years of research that began with coring samples showing the same abrupt transition from lake to sea that Ballard confirmed with his dredge. No one had ever actually seen the old shoreline, however, until Ballard's team captured sonar images of it in August. Ryan and Pitman also suggested that the flood may have triggered massive migrations to destinations as diverse as Egypt, western Europe and central Asia, an idea that has provoked some academic controversy. Scholars also question whether any natural disaster could be conclusively identified as the inspiration for the story of Noah's flood. "All modern critical Bible scholars regard the tale of Noah as legendary," said Hershel Shanks, editor of the Biblical Archaeology Review. "There are other flood stories, but if you want to say the Black Sea flood is Noah's flood, who's to say no?" Shanks pointed out that biblical scholars date the writing of the Book of Genesis, from which the story of Noah is taken, at sometime between 2,900 and 2,400 years ago, and a similar event is described in the Mesopotamian Gilgamesh legend, written about 3,600 years ago. But while Ryan and Pitman do not prove that the Black Sea flood directly inspired Gilgamesh or Noah, their theory argues persuasively that the event was probably horrific enough for scribes and minstrels to remember it for thousands of years. And regardless of the historical context, the science of the Black Sea flood stands undisputed. Ryan and Pitman dated the event at 7,600 years ago, and they fixed the likely depth of the ancient coastline almost exactly where Ballard found it. "It feels good," Pitman said of Ballard's findings, analyzed by the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts. Pitman noted that the new research took place on the Black Sea's southern shore near the Turkish port of Synope--far from the northern waters where he and Ryan had worked. The flood, the underwater coastline and the likelihood that ancient settlements lie on the submerged plain have added a new dimension to an already ambitious project. The region's main archaeological attraction has always been the Black Sea itself, composed mostly of dense Mediterranean salt water that immediately plunged to the bottom of the freshwater lake when the Bosporus gave way 7,500 years ago. Ever since, the less dense water on top has acted as a 500-foot-deep lid on a 7,000-foot-deep oxygen-free abyss--a watery wilderness where scientists suspect there may be 7,500 years of shipwrecks preserved in almost pristine condition. The tantalizing prospect of exploring this environment piqued Ballard's interest several years ago. Beginning with the Titanic in 1985, Ballard has found several historic wrecks in deep water using manned submersibles and robotic vehicles. The Black Sea project, funded by the National Geographic Society and the University of Pennsylvania, began in 1995, when teams of archaeologists on land and in shallow water began mapping Synope and its environs. Synope is about 200 miles directly south across the Black Sea's abyssal waters from the Crimea--a natural terminus for an ancient
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/16/99 3:07:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > What is still not undersood is so far NO Republicans have lied under oath So that's what i've been missing! Darn. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] It's Time to Pressure Clinton to Back Down
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! CommentMax It's Time to Pressure Clinton to Back Down Thomas L. Jipping November 18, 1999 As President Clinton's tenure in office has progressed, so has his assault on American values, society, and culture. In the early years, that assault took the form of liberal and big-government policy proposals. He wanted to socialize health care and allow openly homosexual individuals in the military. And he declared war on the unborn. That was bad enough, but at least these were political proposals placed on the national agenda and that could be debated and fought over. That health care takeover was thwarted, and Clinton actually signed into law a ban on open homosexuals in the military. On the other hand, he issued pro-abortion executive orders and has three times vetoed a national ban on partial-birth abortion that Congress has been unable to overturn. Clinton has been very skillful at using these political battles, even those he might lose in the short term, to achieve long term goals. Conservatives long advocated a balanced federal budget. Now we realize that the federal budget can be balanced, even without using Social Security money to do it, at an astronomically high level of taxation and spending. Clinton has achieved a short-term, specifically conservative goal, while maintaining and even expanding long-term general liberal control. Taxing is the power to destroy and spending is the power to regulate, and Clinton has preserved both while taking the air out of a major conservative issue. In the second chapter of this saga, were the scandals. This was activity with a profound effect on America, but at an entirely different level. Americans don't mind political differences as long as their leaders are decent, honest, moral people. But here was an administration rocked with one scandal after another. A record number of independent counsels investigated political corruption within the United States and originating abroad. There are almost too many "-gates" to remember: Travelgate, Filegate, Whitewatergate, Chinagate, Monicagate...you know the list. Clinton is a pathological liar and has paraded his perverse, degenerate lifestyle for all to see. In Chapter Three we see the co-opting and politicizing of the most coercive and abusive arms of the state to spy on and control American citizens. One of the best things the Republican Congress has done is hold hearings on IRS abuses, but the transformation of the federal government goes far beyond that. Agencies throughout the government now have regiments of armed agents, and among the most menacing are those making and enforcing environmental regulations. The politicizing of law enforcement -- using FBI files to spy on political enemies, the killing of American citizens at Waco and Ruby Ridge, and the most recent targeting of religious people related to Y2K -- may have permanently undermined what is supposed to be one of our most important protections against lawlessness. Led by the Free Congress Foundation's Lisa Dean, grassroots Americans beat back the FDIC's proposal for profiling bank customers and Congress' push for a national identification system; now the Federal Reserve is exploring ways of tracking and manipulating how you use currency. Finally, chapter four is Clinton's attack on the very structure and process of the Constitution. We live in an ends-justify-the-means culture and Clinton will stop at nothing to get what he wants. America's founders knew that the separation of governmental power among three branches and the division of power between the federal and state governments are the most important ways of preserving our freedom. Clinton has attacked both. He has used executive orders and appointed activist judges to take away legislative authority from Congress. He continues to push expansion of the federal government's authority over matters that belong entirely to the states. His most recent push is for the federal government to pay 100,000 teachers, just as it did those 100,000 cops. Remember, spending means regulation and here we see two of the most traditionally local functions -- education and law enforcement -- being taken over by the feds. Clinton's latest scheme is using his power to make so-called recess appointments to install people the Senate will not confirm. The constitution allows a president temporarily to fill vacancies that occur during a Senate recess without Senate confirmation. Clinton is now considering using this narrow exception to the confirmation requirement as a wholesale assault on the confirmation process. He is considering a recess appointment for judges, including controversial radical nominees Richard Paez and Marsha Berzon and even for Ronnie White, whose confirmation has actually been defeated by the Senate. No president has ever attempted, by recess appointment or even ordinary re-nomination, to install s
Re: [CTRL] NAFTA at 5 Part 1
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-01-16 15:39:13 EST, MJ writes: << What does one expect when free trade is 'swapped' for this Government controlled farce? >> Exactly, NAFTA isn't free trade in any way, shape or form. The more government gets involved in our daily lives, the less freedom we have. "Free Trade" as the government puts it isn't even a good hoax as nearly everyone can see what it really brings... a totalitarian form of government. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [Bay_Area_Activist] URGENT MESSAGE CONCERNING USE OF DEPLETED URANIUM WE...
> > Activist Mailing List - http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/ > > > URGENT MESSAGE CONCERNING USE OF DEPLETED URANIUM WEAPONS > > The documents from the December 2-3, 1998 Conference on the "Health > Consequences of DU Weapons Used By US and British Forces" held in > Baghdad is available on the web.. This material is vitally important > and should be looked at closely by all concerned groups in an effort > to put a stop to any further military actions against Iraq. The > physicians and scientists who compiled this report are asking our help > in disseminating this information in hopes of stopping further use of > depleted uranium weapons. They are also requesting help from the > international community in conducting more studies on the health > effects of DU on the Iraqi people. We all need to work to disseminate > this information as quickly and widely as possible. > > The report is located at > > > http://asterix.phys.unm.edu:8000 > > It is available as a microsoft word and a html document. Type in the url, clicking on it seems not to work. From: "Agent Smiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Activist Mailing List - http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/ URGENT MESSAGE CONCERNING USE OF DEPLETED URANIUM WEAPONS The documents from the December 2-3, 1998 Conference on the "Health Consequences of DU Weapons Used By US and British Forces" held in Baghdad is available on the web.. This material is vitally important and should be looked at closely by all concerned groups in an effort to put a stop to any further military actions against Iraq. The physicians and scientists who compiled this report are asking our help in disseminating this information in hopes of stopping further use of depleted uranium weapons. They are also requesting help from the international community in conducting more studies on the health effects of DU on the Iraqi people. We all need to work to disseminate this information as quickly and widely as possible. The report is located at http://asterix.phys.unm.edu:8000"> http://asterix.phys.unm.edu:8000 It is available as a microsoft word and a html document. _ * The Activist * http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian =20 This is not about the world that we inherited from our forefathers, It is about the world we have borrowed from our children !! _ __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left.
[CTRL] What Is Political Extremism (Pt. 2)
> > Activist Mailing List - http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/ > > [Continued from Part 1] > > > 7. Extremists Tend To Have A Manichean Worldview. That is, they tend > to see the world in terms of absolutes of good and evil, for them or > against them, with no middle ground or intermediate positions. All > issues are ultimately moral issues of right and wrong. Their slogan > tends to be "he who is not with me, is against me!" > > 8. Extremists Very Often Advocate Some Degree Of Censorship And > Repression Of Their Opponents And Critics. This may range from an > active campaign to keep them from media access and a public hearing, > as in the case of blacklisting, banning, or "quarantining" dissident > spokesmen, or actually lobbying for repressive legislation against > speaking, teaching or instructing the "forbidden" information. They > may attempt to keep certain books out of stores or off of library > shelves or card catalogs, discourage advertising with threats of > reprisals, keep spokesmen for offending views off the airwaves, or > certain columnists out of newspapers. In each instance the goal is > some kind of information control. Extremists would prefer that you > only listen to them. > > 9. Extremists Tend To Identify Themselves In Terms Of Who Their > Enemies Are, who they hate and who hates them! Accordingly, they often > become emotionally bound to their enemies, who are often competing > extremists on the opposite pole of the ideological spectrum. They tend > to emulate their enemies in certain respects, adopting the same style > and tactics to a certain degree. Even "anti-extremist" groups often > exhibit extremist behavior in this regard! > > 10. Extremists Are Given To Arguments By Intimidation. That is, they > frame their arguments in such a way as to intimidate others into > accepting their premises and conclusions. To disagree with them, they > imply, is to ally oneself with the devil or give aid and comfort to > the "bad guys." This ploy allows them to define the parameters of > debate, cut off troublesome lines of argument, and keep their > opponents on the defensive. > > 11. Wide Use Of Slogans, Buzzwords And Thought-Stopping Cliches. For > many extremists simple slogans substitute for more complex > abstractions in spite of a high level of intelligence. Shortcuts in > thinking and reasoning matters out seems to be necessary in order to > appease their prejudices and to avoid troublesome facts and > counter-arguments. > > 12. Doomsday Thinking. Extremists often predict dire or catastrophic > consequences from a situation or from failure to follow a specific > course, and they exhibit a kind of "crisis-mindedness." It can be a > Communist takeover, a Nazi revival, nuclear war, currency collapse, > worldwide famine, drought, earthquakes, floods or the wrath of God. > Whatever it is, it's just around the corner unless we follow their > program and listen to their special insights or the wisdom that only > the enlightened have access to! > > 13. Extremists Often Claim Some Kind Of Moral Or Other Superiority > Over Others. Most obvious are claims of general racial superiority -- > a master race, for example. Less obvious are claims of ennoblement > because of alleged victimhood, a special relationship with God, > membership in a special "elite" or revolutionary vanguard. They also > take great offense when one is "insensitive" enough to dispute these > claims or challenge their authority. > > 14. Extremists Tend To Believe That It's OK To Do Bad Things In The > Service Of A "Good" Cause. They may deliberately lie, distort, > misquote, slander or libel their opponents and critics, or advocate > censorship or repression in "special cases" involving their enemies. > This is done with no remorse as long as it's useful in defeating the > Commies or Fascists (or whoever). Defeating an "enemy" becomes an > all-encompassing goal to which other values are subordinate. With > extremists, the ends often justify the means. > > 15. Extremists Tend To Place Great Value On Emotional Responses. They > have a reverence for propaganda, which they may call education or > consciousness-raising. Consequently, they tend to drape themselves and > their cause in a flag of patriotism, a banner of righteousness or a > shroud of victimhood. Their crusades against "enemies" may invoke > images of the swastika, the hammer and sickle or some other symbol, as > the case may be. In each instance the symbol represents an extremely > odious concept in terms of their ideological premises. This ploy > attempts to invoke an uncritical gut-level sympathy and acceptance of > their position which discourages examination of their premises or the > conclusions which they claim necessarily derive from them. > > 16. Some Extremists, Particularly Those Involved In "Cults" Or > religious movements such as fundamental evangelical Christians, > Zionists, members o
[CTRL] Impending Canada-Palestine Deal
> > Original Message Follows > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:32:50 -0600 (CST) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Winkel) > Subject: POLITICS: Impending Canada-Palestine Deal Expected to Cause a > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > /** ips.english: 404.0 **/ > ** Topic: POLITICS: Impending Canada-Palestine Deal Expected to Cause a > ** > ** Written 2:38 PM Jan 13, 1999 by newsdesk in cdp:ips.english ** > Copyright 1999 InterPress Service, all rights reserved. >Worldwide distribution via the APC networks. > >*** 10-Jan-99 *** > > Title: POLITICS: Impending Canada-Palestine Deal Expected to Cause a > Stir > > by Mark Bourrie > > OTTAWA, Jan 10 (IPS)- An impending free trade agreement between > Canada and the Palestinian Authority is expected to provoke the > ire of some sectors in Israel and other opponents of an > independent Palestinian state. > > Canadian and Palestinian diplomats held secret negotiations > here through last autumn and an agreement is expected to be signed > in February or March, just as Israel heads into an election that > will likely centre on the issue of Palestinian autonomy. > > Canadian Trade Minister Sergio Marchi, a vocal advocate of free > trade, is to visit the Middle East at the end of February. > Officials of his ministry say Marchi wants to sign the trade deal > during that visit. > > Mideast trade is a minor part of Canada's international > business, although Canada and Israel did conclude a free trade > agreement two years ago. Canada want a similar deal with the > Palestinians. > > Canada-Israel trade amounts annually to about 450 million U.S. > dollars, mainly high-tech products, diamonds and phosphates, but > only a small fraction involves areas now governed by the > Palestinian Authority. > > Canada and the PLO have had good diplomatic relations since the > mid-1970s. An agreement signed between Yasser Arafat's government > and a Western power would give greater legitimacy to the > Palestinian claim to independence, drawing the ire of Israel. > > Palestinian diplomats here said a trade agreement would have > political, rather than economic, significance. > > "Economically it will not benefit much for the time being," > said Bakr Abdul Minem, the PLO's diplomatic representative in > Canada and de-facto ambassador of the Palestinian Authority. "The > most important meaning is a political one." > > Minen said the negotiators were not trying to create a > political problem with Israel. "We want to find a way to do this > and not embarrass anyone," he said. > > Canadian officials tried to play down the importance of the > talks, but admitted they were more than just a simple extension of > the Canada-Israel agreement. "We recognize that we want to balance > our interests in the area," said Leslie Swartman, spokeswoman for > Marchi. "It's separate and apart from the Canada-Israel free trade > agreement." > > Diplomats at Israel's embassy here said they had been given > assurances that a free trade agreement would not give a boost to > the Palestinian drive for full statehood. > > However, Jewish groups in Canada, who learned of the > negotiations just over a week ago, said they would lobby against > any agreement that gives an aura of statehood to the Palestinian > Authority. > > "It's not acceptable for them to pretend to be something > they're not," said Robert Ridder, executive director of the Canada- > Israel Committee. > > "We wouldn't be happy and we'd make our position clear," he > added. (END/IPS/MB/KB/98) > > Origin: Montevideo/POLITICS/ > > > [c] 1999, InterPress Third World News Agency (IPS) > All rights reserved > >May not be reproduced, reprinted or posted to any system or >service outside of the APC networks, without specific >permission from IPS. This limitation includes distribution >via Usenet News, bulletin board systems, mailing lists, >print media and broadcast. For information about cross- >posting, send a message to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.For >information about print or broadcast reproduction please >contact the IPS coordinator at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > > ** End of text from cdp:ips.english ** > > *** > This material came from the Institute for Global Communications (IGC), a > non-profit, unionized, politically progressive Internet services > provider. > For more information, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (you will get > back an automatic reply), or visit their web site at http://www.igc.org/ > . > IGC is a project of the Tides Center, a 501(c)(3) charitable > organization. > *** Original Message Follows Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:32:50 -0600 (CST) Fro
[CTRL] Bovine proteins and diabetes
> > Activist Mailing List - http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/ > > Bovine proteins and diabetes > > Excerpted from article on: www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html > > > In December of 1996 (LANCET, vol. 348, Dec 14, 1996) Simon Murch, MD, > of the Department of Pediatric Gastroenterology of the Royal Free > Hospital in London wrote: > > "Cow's milk proteins are unique in one respect: in industrialized > countries they are the first foreign proteins entering the infant gut, > since most formulations for babies are cow milk-based. The first pilot > stage of our IDD prevention study found that oral exposure to dairy > milk proteins in infancy resulted in both cellular and immune > response...this suggests the possible importance of the gut immune > system to the pathogenesis of IDD." > > In that same issue, researchers from New Zealand (R. B. Elliot, MD, > et. al, Department of Pediatrics, University of Aukland) paralleled > earlier studies and investigated diabetics in three locations: > Auckland, New Zealand, Giessen, Germany and Sardinia, Italy. They > reported finding a higher level of antibodies to bovine proteins, > particularly CASEIN in diabetics than in healthy individuals. > > Three mothers have recently contacted the ANTIDAIRY Coalition with > exciting news. Each took their newly diagnosed IDDM infants completely > off all milk and dairy products. Six months later their kids were > again producing insulin. Their physicians refer to each individual > recovery as a MIRACLE. I call the recoveries simple biology. > > > ELIMINATE THE POISON AND FIND THE CURE > New clinical studies are most certainly called for. If you read this > and have diabetes, become your own study of ONE. Your cure will become > "ANECDOTAL." Let the ANTIDAIRY Coalition know about your MIRACLE and > we'll relate your story to the world > > > For the rest of this exciting and informative article please go to: > > http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html > > > > R.Hamilton > > > Wearing a "milk mustache?" > Do a reality check at: http://www.notmilk.com > * > Ask your Govt. (U.S. or Canada) for the data on the rats > treated with rBST/rBGH MILK. > Meet the GOOD BUNNIES: http://members.tripod.com/ronjh/ > Anti Dairy Images FREE: http://members.tripod.com/ronjh/notmilk.htm > GET OFF ASPARTAME! http://www.dorway.com Activist Mailing List - http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/ Bovine proteins and diabetes Excerpted from article on: www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html In December of 1996 (LANCET, vol. 348, Dec 14, 1996) Simon Murch, MD, of the Department of Pediatric Gastroenterology of the Royal Free Hospital in London wrote: "Cow's milk proteins are unique in one respect: in industrialized countries they are the first foreign proteins entering the infant gut, since most formulations for babies are cow milk-based. The first pilot stage of our IDD prevention study found that oral exposure to dairy milk proteins in infancy resulted in both cellular and immune response...this suggests the possible importance of the gut immune system to the pathogenesis of IDD." In that same issue, researchers from New Zealand (R. B. Elliot, MD, et. al, Department of Pediatrics, University of Aukland) paralleled earlier studies and investigated diabetics in three locations: Auckland, New Zealand, Giessen, Germany and Sardinia, Italy. They reported finding a higher level of antibodies to bovine proteins, particularly CASEIN in diabetics than in healthy individuals. Three mothers have recently contacted the ANTIDAIRY Coalition with exciting news. Each took their newly diagnosed IDDM infants completely off all milk and dairy products. Six months later their kids were again producing insulin. Their physicians refer to each individual recovery as a MIRACLE. I call the recoveries simple biology. ELIMINATE THE POISON AND FIND THE CURE New clinical studies are most certainly called for. If you read this and have diabetes, become your own study of ONE. Your cure will become "ANECDOTAL." Let the ANTIDAIRY Coalition know about your MIRACLE and we'll relate your story to the world For the rest of this exciting and informative article please go to: http://www.antidairycoalition.com/011099.html R.Hamilton Wearing a "milk mustache?" Do a reality check at: http://www.notmilk.com * Ask your Govt. (U.S. or Canada) for the data on the rats treated with rBST/rBGH MILK. Meet the GOOD BUNNIES: http://members.tripod.com/ronjh/ Anti Dairy Images FREE: http://members.tripod.com/ronjh/notmilk.htm GET OFF ASPARTAME! http://www.dorway.com __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/ __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.
[CTRL] Rachel #633: Carcinogens Everywhere
> > ===Electronic Edition > . . > . RACHEL'S ENVIRONMENT & HEALTH WEEKLY #633 . > .---January 14, 1999--- . > . HEADLINES: . > .CARCINOGENS EVERYWHERE . > . == . > .LEAD IN CHILDREN: OLD STORY, NEW DATA . > . == . > . Environmental Research Foundation . > . P.O. Box 5036, Annapolis, MD 21403 . > . Fax (410) 263-8944; E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > . == . > . Back issues available by E-mail; to get instructions, send . > . E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the single word HELP . > .in the message; back issues also available from. > . http://www.rachel.org . To start your free subscriprion, . > . send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words . > . SUBSCRIBE RACHEL-WEEKLY YOUR NAME in the message. . > = > > > CARCINOGENS EVERYWHERE > > U.S. EPA [Environmental Protection Agency] published a report in > 1998 saying that 100% of the outdoor air in the continental U.S. > is contaminated with eight cancer-causing industrial chemicals at > levels that exceed EPA's "benchmark" safety standards.[1] Alaska > and Hawaii were excluded from the analysis for lack of available > data.~ > > Using 1990 data on toxic industrial emissions, EPA applied > well-known mathematical models to estimate year-round average > outdoor air concentrations for 148 industrial poisons in each of > the nation's 60,803 census tracts. > > For each of the 148 toxicants, EPA established a "benchmark" > level that the agency considers safe. Eight of the 148 industrial > poisons exceed EPA's benchmark safety levels all of the time in > all 60,803 census tracts. All eight are carcinogens, that is, > they are known to cause cancer: bis(2-ethylhexyl) phthalate; > benzene; carbon tetrachloride; chloroform; ethylene dibromide; > ethylene dichloride; formaldehyde; and methyl chloride. > > In its report, EPA said that outdoor air concentrations provide a > reasonable estimate of toxic concentrations "that occur both > outdoors and indoors, given the high rates of penetration into > indoor environments for various HAPs [hazardous air pollutants]." > In other words, EPA believes that being inside your home or > workplace does not protect you from constant exposure to these > eight carcinogens. > > EPA said its mathematical models probably underestimate the true > levels to which the population is exposed. Where actual > measurements of toxic contaminants were available, EPA found that > the measured levels exceeded the levels estimated by their > mathematical models. > > In its report, EPA also acknowledged that it may have > underestimated the health effects because the eight chemicals, > combined, may have additive or multiplier effects since people > experience all of them simultaneously. However, the agency also > acknowledged that it has no way to take such combined effects > into account. > > The agency also acknowledged that many of the chemicals may have > health effects for which the agency has established no > "benchmark" standards. For example, benzene and 1,3-butadiene > have both been associated with reproductive and developmental > effects, but EPA currently has set no benchmark safety levels for > such effects, and so those effects were ignored in this study. > > And finally, most (if not all) individuals are exposed to far > more than just eight industrial poisons. These eight merely > provide a toxic background to which other toxicants are added, > depending upon a person's (or a community's) individual > situation: automobile and truck exhaust, second-hand cigarette > smoke, prescription drugs, emissions from power plants, smelters, > incinerators, and so on. > > Several of the eight chemicals exceed EPA "benchmark" safety > levels by a wide margin. For example, the average > day-in-and-day-out concentration of carbon tetrachloride exceeds > EPA's benchmark level by a factor of 13, and bis(2-ethylhexyl) > phthalate exceeds EPA's benchmark by a factor of 6.4. > > > > LEAD IN CHILDREN: OLD STORY, NEW DATA > > > In 1998, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention > (CDCP) in Atlanta issued a report saying that only 4.4% of > American children between the ages of 1 and 5 have the toxic > metal lead in their blood at "levels of health concern," which > CDCP defines as concentrations of 10 micrograms of lead per > dec
[CTRL] Gulf Vets call for an End to Civilian Casualties in Iraq
> > > /** mideast.gulf: 380.0 **/ > ** Topic: IRAQ/USA: Gulf Vets call for an End to Civilian Casualties in > Iraq ** > ** Written 7:06 AM Jan 13, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in > cdp:mideast.gulf ** > > > 'subscribe iac-list' in the body of the message > > > Erik K. Gustafson, Education for Peace in Iraq Center (EPIC) > 747 10th Street SE, Suite 2, Washington, DC 20003 > 202-543-6176; 202-546-5103 (fax); [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For IMMEDIATE Release > > Gulf Vets call for an End to Civilian Casualties in Iraq > > (Washington) The National Gulf War Resource Center (NGWRC), the > largest Gulf War veterans organization in the country, has come > out against economic sanctions which "prevent or otherwise hamper > nations from maintaining the public health of their people." > Comprising over 54 member groups from around the country, the NGWRC > works to be a resource for information, support, and referrals for > all those concerned with the complexities of Gulf War issues, > especially Gulf War illnesses. Already successful in passing a > comprehensive bill to ensure better health care for sick veterans, > the NGWRC is now focusing on Depleted Uranium (DU) and protecting > both U.S. troops and civilians from DU exposure. In a resolution > that was passed by the Board of Directors on December 20, 1998, > shortly after the December air strike, the NGWRC urges that further > civilian casualties in Iraq be avoided. "As soldiers, we were > trained to abide by international laws relating to the treatment > and protection of civilian populations. Economic sanctions which > prevent or otherwise hamper nations from maintaining the public > health of their citizens, are in violation of these international > laws, including Geneva Protocol 1, Article 54, which prohibits the > 'starvation of civilians as a method of warfare.' The UN and the > U.S. must work toward an immediate end to the humanitarian crisis > in Iraq." > > Full text of this precedent-setting resolution follows: > __ > National Gulf War Resource Center Statement > Gulf War Veterans Express Concern About Recent Developments in the > 8-Year War > > The United States (U.S.) became involved in the Gulf War with the > passage of Public Law 102-1, still in effect, that allows the > President to use military force against Iraq in order to enforce > Iraqi compliance with United Nations (UN) resolutions. > > The National Gulf War Resource Center (NGWRC) believes the following > important lessons must not be forgotten regarding the Gulf War, a > war that continues to impact millions of lives. > > * Iraq possessed and deployed chemical warfare agents up to 1991. > > * In 1991, with the U.S. military destruction of Iraq's chemical > weapons (CW) facilities, tons of agents were released, possibly > exposing up to 100,000 American servicemen and women, according > to the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD). > > * The U.S. uses depleted uranium (DU) in anti-tank ammunition. > Scientists have associated DU, a radioactive toxic waste, with > many adverse health effects. Since 1990, thousands of American > troops have been exposed to DU, as have millions of Iraqis. The > World Health Organization plans to investigate the possible link > between a reported sharp increase in cancer incidents in Southern > Iraq and DU exposure. > > * The U.S. DOD and Department of Veterans Affairs have estimated > that 110,000 American Gulf War veterans are ill as a result of > their wartime service, many from exposures to CW, DU, pollution > from oil well fires, experimental vaccines, and anti-nerve agent > pretreatment pills, among other toxins. > > * The economic sanctions on Iraq now result in serious shortages of > food, clean water, and medicine. Water and sanitation systems have > collapsed, fueling an epidemic of diseases. Denis J. Halliday, > the former UN head of the oil-for-food program, estimates that > over 5,000 Iraqi children under five are dying each month from > malnutrition and disease directly related to the sanctions. > Meanwhile, the Iraqi government remains untouched and firmly > entrenched. > > Therefore, the National Gulf War Resource Center Board of Directors, > after careful and thorough deliberation, urges the following steps > be taken to ensure the protection of American forces and civilians > in the Persian Gulf region. No active duty service man or woman > should ever have to go through what so many Gulf War veterans and > their families have had to go through. > > Due to the likely exposure to CW, DU, and other hazardous toxins, > the NGWRC demands that the best training and protective gear be > provided to American forces deployed in the Persian Gulf region, as > well as t
[CTRL] What Is Political Extremism (Pt. 1)
> > Activist Mailing List - http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/ > > What Is Political "Extremism"? > by Laird Wilcox > > Roger Scruton, in the Dictionary Of Political Thought (Hill & Wang, > New York, 1982) defines "extremism" as: > > "A vague term, which can mean: 1. Taking a political idea to its > limits, regardless of 'unfortunate' repercussions, impracticalities, > arguments and feelings to the contrary, and with the intention not > only to confront, but also to eliminate opposition. 2. Intolerance > towards all views other than one's own. 3. Adoption of means to > political ends which show disregard for the life, liberty, and human > rights of others." > > This is a very fair definition and it reflects my experience that > "extremism" is essentially more an issue of style than of content. In > the twenty-five years that I have been investigating political groups > of the left and right, I have found that many people can hold very > radical or unorthodox political views and still present them in a > reasonable, rational and non-dogmatic manner. On the other hand, I > have met people whose views were shrill, uncompromising and distinctly > authoritarian. The latter demonstrated a starkly extremist mentality > while the former demonstrated only ideological unorthodoxy, which is > hardly to be feared in a free society such as our own. > > I don't mean to imply that content is entirely irrelevant. People who > tend to adopt the extremist style most often champion causes and adopt > ideologies that are essentially "fringe" positions on the political > spectrum. Advocacy of "fringe" positions, however, gives our society > the variety and vitality it needs to function as an open democracy, to > discuss and debate all aspects of an issue and to deal with problems > we may otherwise have a tendency to ignore. I think this is the proper > role of radical movements, left and right, in our system. The > extremist style is another issue altogether, however, in that it > seriously hampers our understanding of important issues, it muddies > the waters of discourse with invective, fanaticism and hatred, and it > impairs our ability to make intelligent, well-informed choices. > > Another, perhaps more popular, definition of "extremism" is that it > represents points of view we strongly disagree with, advocated by > someone we dislike whose interests are contrary to our own! > > Political ideologues often attempt definitions of extremism which > specifically condemn the views of their opponents and critics while > leaving their own relatively untouched, or which are otherwise biased > toward certain views but not others. To be fair, a definition must be > equally applicable across the entire political spectrum. > > In point of fact, the terms "extremist" and "extremism" are often used > thoughtlessly an epithets, "devilwords" to curse or condemn opponents > and critics with! I find, however, that the extremist style is not the > monopoly of any sector of the political spectrum. It is just as common > on the "left" as it is on the "right," and sometimes it shows up in > the political "center" as well! > > In analyzing the rhetoric and literature of several hundred "fringe" > and militant "special interest" groups I have identified several > specific traits that tend to represent the extremist style. I would > like to caution you with the admonition, however, that we are all > fallible and anyone, without bad intentions, may resort to some of > these devices from time to time. But with bonafide extremists these > lapses are not occasional and the following traits are an habitual and > established part of their repertoire. The late Robert Kennedy, in The > Pursuit Of Justice (1964), said; "What is objectionable, what is > dangerous about extremists is not that they are extreme, but that they > are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but > what they say about their opponents." > > 1. Character Assassination. Extremists often attack the character of > an opponent or critic rather than deal with the facts and issues that > he raises or debate the points of his arguments. They will question > his motives, qualifications, past associations, values, personality, > mental health and so on as a diversion from the issues under > consideration. > > 2. Name Calling And Labeling. Extremists are quick to resort to > epithets (racist, subversive, pervert, hatemonger, nut, crackpot, > degenerate, Un-American, Anti-Semite, Red, Commie, Nazi, Kook, etc.) > to label and condemn an opponent in order to divert attention from his > arguments and to discourage other from hearing him out. > > 3. Irresponsible Sweeping Generalizations. Extremists tend to make > sweeping claims or judgments on little or no evidence, and they have a > tendency to confuse similarity with sameness. That is, they assume > that because two (or more) things are alike in som
[CTRL] The High Price of Kazakstan's MiG Affair
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update November 18, 1999 The High Price of Kazakstan's MiG Affair Summary: Kazakstan has announced that it has completed its investigation into the illegal sale of MiG-21 fighters to North Korea. The completion of the investigation is likely to defuse a threatened U.S. suspension of aid. But the incident has weakened relations between the Central Asian nation and the United States and will push Kazakstan closer to a regional power, such as Russia and China. Relations between Astana and Moscow are so strained right now that the Kazak government will likely grow closer to China, at least in the short term. Analysis: Kazakstan's intelligence service announced Nov. 17 that its investigation into the illegal sale of MiG-21 fighter aircraft to North Korea was complete and that senior government officials had been involved, according to both local and international news reports. The current scandal is the second incident involving MiGs in the last six months, creating an ongoing embarrassment for President Nursultan Nazarbayev, who has worked hard to establish ties with the West. Two recent scandals have revolved around Kazak MiG fighters. In March, six jets were detained on a circuitous route to North Korea. Transported aboard a Russian cargo plane, the crated jets were to be taken through the Czech Republic to North Korea. But the cargo plane was detained in Baku, Azerbaijan and routed back to Kazakstan. Kazak authorities launched an investigation but halted it in May, concluding that the shipment was just a huge misunderstanding -- not a criminal offense. In August, news reports indicated that North Korea had purchased 30 to 40 Kazak MiG-21s. The sales so threatened to upset Kazakstan's ties with the West, that Nazarbayev fired Defense Minister Mukhtar Altynbayev and the chairman of the country's security committee, Nurlan Balgymbayev, on Aug. 9 for failing to fully investigate the March incident [ http://www.stratfor.com/cis/commentary/c9908102325 ]. Prime Minister Kosymzhomart Tokayev assured Western countries that the Kazak government had no knowledge of the sale, and requested that North Korea return the planes. North Korea has at various times declined to return them and even denied knowledge of the planes. The sales and the recent conclusion of the investigation have upset the delicate balance of Kazak foreign policy. Newly independent is also newly deprived of its major customer for its heavy industrial products, Russia. Kazakstan is rich in resources but dependent on foreign investment to develop its infrastructure. Like its Central Asian neighbors, Kazakstan is strategically located, but not politically or economically strong enough to fend for itself. It needs to ally itself with a stronger power, such as the United States, Russia or China. So far, Nazarbayev has favored Washington. But the MiG affair has thrown a wrench into relations with the West. The United States has responded with threats to suspend the $75 million in aid it supplies Kazakstan each year. In addition, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe has alleged that the government has tampered with elections, further cooling relations between Washington and Astana. While the United States is likely to continue aid - as long as Nazarbayev fires the implicated officials - the flow of cash is unlikely to increase. The U.S. Congress, already tightfisted on foreign aid, will not be easily convinced to send more money to a nation, which has exported weapons to a sworn enemy. More importantly, the MiG scandals threaten the meager flow of foreign investment that helps prop up Kazakstan's economy. Both U.S. and South Korean investors - major investors in developing Kazakstan's natural resources - are likely to be restrained by their governments. This threatens millions of investment dollars for the oil, gas and metallurgical industries; Kazakstan was already strapped for funds before this crisis of confidence. With Western help unlikely, Kazakstan will increasingly need to turn to a regional power for both money and possibly security. Relations with Russia are rocky. Russia is a major partner in Kazak oil exploration and export but tensions have arisen in other areas, such as the use of Kazakstan's Baikonur space launch facility. [ http://www.stratfor.com/SERVICES/GIU/110499.ASP ] Following an accident, the Kazak government banned Russia from using its launch facilities until at least February 2000, and demanded financial reparations. The two governments are still haggling. This places China in a particularly favorable position. In the absence of Western assistance, China by default is the best partner around - at least in the short term. This would be great for China, which needs fuel and is eager to invest in Kazakstan's vast, undeveloped oil fields. As for the MiG issue, China is unl
[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] Letter From the UK by Robin Ramsey of Lobster Magazine
Dear People: If you have not read Robin Ramsey's discussion of mind control/electronic harassment, please take the time to go to http:/www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/ Click on "The Latest Word" Robin had asked me to write an article for his magazine. When he got my article, he claimed it was too weird. I thought I had toned things down a bit. Anyway, he didn't use the article, but wrote another article using some of the information I supplied. Also, his the article, he makes reference to The Konformist on-line magazine where my article, "The Voices in My Head?", is supposed to be archived. You know what is nice? That Robin Ramsey thinks I have the best theory about electronic harassment. That is what I thought. ; > Anyway, any comments you have and want to share after reading Robin's article, I will forward to him. KK ** MINDCONTROL-L Mind Control and Psyops Mailing List To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text: "unsubscribe MINDCONTROL-L" or "subscribe MINDCONTROL-L". Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, list moderator
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: However, the level of the proceeding has been drenched in pomposity to date as though the Republicans are desperate in making themselves appear sober rather than the vengeful little twits attempting to overthrow a government that they are. MJ: Precisely and specifically HOW are the Republicans attempting to 'overthrow' the Government? Regard$, --MJ The important thing is to stop lying to yourself. A man who lies to himself, and believes his own lies, becomes unable to recognize the truth, either in himself or in anyone else, and he ends up losing respect for himself as well as for others. When he has no respect for anyone, he can no longer love and, in order to divert himself, having no love in him, he yields to his impulses, indulges in the lowest forms of pleasure, and behaves in the end like an animal, in satisfying his vices. And it all comes from lying -- lying to others and to yourself. -- Feodor Mikhailovich Dostoyevsky 1880 _The Brothers Karamazov_ DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 3:57:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Contacted by CNNS, Mr. Skolnick further noted that the > striped-sleeve style of judicial robe was *de rigueur* in Nazi > Germany. We should not be tempted by this morsel. It is tempting because Mr. Rhenquist got his start in the Republican party by intimidating blacks and Hispanics from voting. However, the level of the proceeding has been drenched in pomposity to date as though the Republicans are desperate in making themselves appear sober rather than the vengeful little twits attempting to overthrow a government that they are. Jerry DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NAFTA at 5 Part 1
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comments: NAFTA's proponents promised benefits for the U.S., Canada and Mexico. The promises - 200,000 new U.S. jobs from NAFTA per year, higher wages in Mexico and a growing U.S. trade surplus with Mexico, environmental clean-up and improved health along the border - have all failed to materialize. MJ: What does one expect when free trade is 'swapped' for this Government controlled farce? Regard$, --MJ I am for free commerce with all nations; political connection with none; and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of Europe; entering that field of slaughter to preserve their balance, or joining in the confederacy of kings to war against the principles of liberty. -- Thomas Jefferson (in a letter to Elbridge Gerry, Philadelphia, Jan 26th, 1799) DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Capitol Watch - <-Personalized- Edition> Date: 11/18/99
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! -- TODAY'S HEADLINES --- House speaker says Clinton agrees to across-board spending cuts Trump launches Web site, with Ventura's master running it Bradley outlines foreign policy goals, supports China in WTO Away from meetings, Clinton and family go sightseeing Senate rejects moratorium on agribusiness mergers Attorney general recalls early lesson in speech Mass. legislature weighs fight against campaign reform law Mayoral candidates differ on taxes in San Francisco debate GOP moderate group under fire for Forbes ads California Democrat wins runoff for U.S. House seat Gore Medicaid ad analyzed Federal funds could help children escape failing schools --- Netivation.com News --- http://www.netivation.com/new/press/49.html Netivation.com Completes Acquisitions of Three Internet Political Companies -- --CapitolWatch Insider A short while ago, I touted the possibility of an open-seat congressional contest in western Pennsylvania (the 4th District) between state Sen. Melissa Hart and Pittsburgh Steelers scion Jim Rooney. Alas, it won't occur. Rooney has decided not to make the race. Democrats claim they have two heavyweights anyhow: Lawrence County prosecutor Matthew Mangino and state Rep. Terry Van Horne. Maybe so, and this is a fundamentally Democratic (but potentially Reagan Democratic) district, but there are few state legislators as adept as Hart. While we're talking about Pennsylvania, why haven't I heard about a challenger to Republican (and former Melissa Hart staffer) Phil English in the Erie-based, likewise Democratic, 21st District? ~Tiresias CapitolWatch Insider provides news from the inner workings of our nation's capital, including upcoming legislation, what's happening behind the scenes, and how the actions of Congress really affect you. The first person to correctly identify the author of the Tiresias column will receive a copy of Congressional Quarterly's "Politics in America - 2000," due to be published this summer. --CapitolWatch Insider -- Transcripts http://www.capitolwatch.com/transcripts/11-18-99_01.html SENATE MINORITY LEADER HOLDS NEWS CONFERENCE ON BUDGET ISSUES NOVEMBER 16, 1999 Elapsed Time 00:00, Eastern Time 14:31 November 18 , 1999 http://www.capitolwatch.com/transcripts/11-18-99_02.html SPEAKER HASTERT HOLDS MEDIA AVAILABILITY ON THE BUDGET NOVEMBER 17, 1999 November 18, 1999 http://www.capitolwatch.com/transcripts/11-17-99_01.html VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE SPEAKS AT MICROSOFT HEADQUARTERS IN REDMOND, WASHINGTON NOVEMBER 15, 1999 November 17, 1999 U.S. House of RepresentativesE-mail your Representative:mailto:House Roll Call Vote: 587Description: State Flexibility Clarification ActDate: 11/16/99 Bill: H.R.3257Action: Suspend the rules and pass, as amendedResult: PASSEDYea = 401 Nay = 32 Not Voted = 0Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 588Description: Condemning the assassination of Armenian Prime Minister Vazgen Sargsianand other officials of the Armenian GovernmentDate: 11/16/99 Bill: H.CON.RES.222Action: Suspend the rules and agreeResult: PASSEDYea = 399 Nay = 34 Not Voted = 0Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 589Description: Expressing the strong support of the Congress for the recently concludedelections in the Republic of IndiaDate: 11/16/99 Bill: H.CON.RES.211Action: Suspend the rules and agreeResult: PASSEDYea = 396 Nay = 4 Not Voted = 33Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 590Description: Providing for Consideration of Motions to Suspend the RulesDate: 11/16/99 Bill: H.RES.374Action: On Agreeing to the ResolutionResult: PASSEDYea = 214 Nay = 202 Not Voted = 17Richard E. Neal voted No. House Roll Call Vote: 591Description: Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives with respect to democracy, free elections, and human rights in the Lao People's Democratic Republic.Date: 11/16/99 Bill: H.RES.169Action: Suspend the Rules and Agree, as AmendedResult: PASSEDYea = 412 Nay = 1 Not Voted = 20Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 592Description: Expressing United States policy toward the Slovak RepublicDate: 11/16/99 Bill: H.CON.RES.165Action: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and AgreeResult: PASSEDYea = 404 Nay = 12 Not Voted = 17Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 593Description: Expressing grave concern regarding armed conflict in the North Caucasus region of the Russian Federation.Date: 11/16/99 Bill: H.CON.RES.206Action: Suspend the Rules and Agree, as AmendedResult: PASSEDYea = 407 Nay = 4 Not Voted = 22Richard E. Neal voted Yes. House Roll Call Vote: 594Description: Expressing the sense of the Hous
[CTRL] GOP News & Views - November 18, 1999
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! * A Do-Nothing Congress? Great!!! âCongress is about to leave town for the year, amid Beltway and media hazing over all of the legislation it didnât pass. Of course this is precisely what the rest of the country should be grateful for. Prosperity is spreading far and wide, teenagers are getting $9 an hour to sling hamburgers, 25-year-olds are becoming paper millionaires - and Congress did almost nothing this year to get in the way. Whatâs wrong with that?â - Wall Street Journal editorial, 11/17/99 *** Jesse Jackson: Black Klansman? âJesse Jackson is a racist. He is just as racist as a hate-spewing Klansman who dons a robe and burns crosses. Even worse, his racism hurts blacks even more than it does whites. Jackson marched Tuesday to demand that the Decatur school board put the expelled students back in school. The school board, appropriately, has told Jesse to take a hike. Unfortunately, he hiked to the school to demand that they let his brothers in. That's when the cops busted him. ... But by trying to force the Decatur school board to put his black troublemaking buddies back in school, Jackson's actions pose more of a threat to his own race. Why? Consider this: * Blacks make up 17 percent of Decatur's population. Yet statistics compiled by the FBI show that young black men in Decatur commit 64 percent of the violent crimes in the city. * And most of those crimes are not committed against whites. Some 78 percent are violent acts against other blacks (robbery, assault, murder, etc.). * The young men that Jackson is trying so hard to put back into school have long juvenile records as well as extended absenteeism from school and multiple incidents within school. Most of their crimes have been inflicted on other black students. So by insisting that these hoodlums be put back in the Decatur school system, Jackson is, in fact, increasing the danger to other black students in the school. ... Jesse should get his troublemaking butt out of Decatur. As long as he is there, he is a threat to every law-abiding black man and woman who lives in that Illinois city.â - Columnist Doug Thompson, âThe Rant,â Capitol Hill Blue, 11/17/99 *** GOP Continues To Slide in Nevada For the second month in a row, Democrats have maintained - and expanded - their lead in voter registration among Nevada residents. After four years of GOP dominance in the state, Democrats took the lead in September - and extended it last month. The slide actually began last winter, when the state party staffers who were responsible for the GOPâs impressive registration successes were cut loose in a power struggle. Hope the new âpowers that beâ get their act together pretty soon. * Great News, DMV Fans! When last we visited the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles, drivers were waiting in lines of up to seven hours just to renew a driversâ license or car registration due to bugs in a ânew-and-improvedâ, multi-million-dollar computer software system. Great news motorists. The DMV told a Nevada legislative oversight committee on Tuesday that theyâve made remarkable progress in working the bugs out of the âGenocideâ computer system - as it has been derisively nicknamed by DMV workers. The wait in line now has been reduced to...drum roll please...only 2 1/2 hours! Wow. Of course, the âoldâ system allowed drivers to conduct their business in about 20 minutes...but whoâs counting, right? After all, a citizensâ time doesnât really matter, does it? Still, we got kick out of DMV director Ginny Lewisâ attempt to shoot the messenger on Tuesday. While itâs the monumental goof-up of bringing on-line a computer system that wasnât ready for prime time which has caused - and continues to cause - the long lines, Lewis blamed the media for creating them by reporting on them. Huh? Reno Workshops This Weekend The Nevada Republican Liberty Caucus will conduct two campaign related workshops at the Sparks Nugget in conjunction with the Nevada GOP Central Committee meeting. On Friday, a Candidate Orientation workshop will be held in the Fremont Room on the 2nd floor of the Convention Center from 6 - 8 p.m. On Saturday, a fundraising workshop specifically geared toward the annual Lincoln Day dinners for county party organizations will be held immediately after the Central Committee meeting - probably from around 1-3 p.m. These workshops will be presented by NRLC Chairman Chuck Muth and are FREE and open to any Republican. (Democrats can come, too...but itâll cost THEM $5,000 per person!) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Published by:
[CTRL] Rick Porrello's - AmericanMafia.com
-Caveat Lector- fom: http://www.americanmafia.com/ http://www.americanmafia.com/">Rick Porrello's - AmericanMafia.com - The Organ - Quite the site. A taste. Lots of embedded links. Om K - The Mob Busters Mafia User Forum Howard Stern Fans Mafia Site Search Al Guart Exclusive January 16 1999 Read and Write Mafia Notes Would you be my neighbor? Mug Shots Galore Crime Stuff to read and enjoy Do gangsters really "chat"? Other places to find Mafia stuff NEWS COVERAGE and FEATURES Exclusive Al Guart's New York View The Strong Arm of the Law and Junior Gotti Congressman Traficant and the murder of Charlie Carrabia JR from New York writes a shocking story of scandal, bribery and murder online bookshop Current News on Organized Crime - Yahoo! Recent Mafia Developments --- January 7 1999--- Check for Added Items John "Junior" Gotti is out of jail awaiting a racketeering trial. His release was secured by a $10-million bond. He is confined to home and visitors are limited to family members. Gotti spent Christmas Eve with his wife, their three children, his mother, sisters Angela and Victoria, and their families. On Thanksgiving, federal prosecutors refused to let Victoria's husband, Carmine Agnello visit. The Feds believed 36-year-old Agnello is a Gambino Crime Family associate. Gotti attorneys filed an appeal and after legal arguments, the prosecutors agreed to let Agnello spend Christmas Eve at the Gotti home. >From the New York Post --- January 1999--- New York: John Gotti Jr. was released in October from jail on $10 million bond. Gotti had been held since January of 1998 when he was indicted for being the alleged street boss of New York's Gambino Mafia family. Gotti Jr. will wear a monitoring bracelet on his ankle to assure that he does not leave his house except to meet with his attorneys. Additionally, his phone will be tapped. The F.B.I. believes the Gambino crime group is still run by John Gotti Sr., the "Dapper Don" who is serving a life sentence. Las Vegas: Southern California Mafia underboss Carmen Milano and 16 other Los Angeles and Buffalo mobsters were charged in February in a 101-count racketeering indictment. Bobby Siller, F.B.I. Special Agent in Charge in Las Vegas said," there was an attempt by the Los Angles mob to infiltrate Las Vegas..." Milano, 68 and a disbarred attorney, is the brother of Peter Milano, the boss of the L.A. mob. The Milanos are sons of the late Anthony "The Old Man" Milano, former Cleveland Mafia consigliere. [more] continued on Page 2 - see Recent from your host Rick Porrello Happy New Year and welcome to AmericanMafia.com, the new Organized crime and Mafia Super Site! I am your host Rick Porrello, a police officer and author. In 1932 my grandfather and uncle, Cleveland mob leaders, were killed. Curiosity about my roots culminated in nine years of research and the publication of The Rise and Fall of the Cleveland Mafia. Later I wrote To Kill The Irishman: The War that Crippled the Mafia. "The Irishman" has been optioned for a movie. I conceived AmericanMafia.com to be THE top mob site. And we're well on our way. We've only been on-line a month or so and the interest has been tremendous. We've had hundreds of visitors from all over the globe - Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Finland, Norway Germany, Romania, Australia, the U.K., Canada and the United Arab Emirates, and we would like to thank our new friends all over the world for visiting! Here in the U.S. we're also making friends fast - John B. from Chicago, Charlie M. from Youngstown, Russ M. from Texas, Jim F. from Cleveland, and J.R. from New York - too many to mention. They've all become regular visitors with great suggestions and input. I thank you all. [more] continued on Page 2 - see Welcome Exactly What Is The Mafia? Question to Porrello: Exactly what is the Mafia? The Mafia, more specifically the Italian-American Mafia, is a group of criminals organized into "families," and operating primarily in North America. Also known as La Cosa Nostra, at one time there were 26 families in the United States - roughly one for each major city. The Mafia "commission," composed of bosses of numerous families, mostly New York, was the overseeing authority for all of the other La Cosa Nostra families. The Mafia has its roots in Sicily, where the larger and more powerful Sicilian Mafia operates from. ...and with Prohibition came th
[CTRL] OEN 1/16/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe - It Takes a Parking Lot to Raise a Cub Black Bears Prefer Hondas & Toyotas BEARS in Yosemite National Park in California know exactly where to go foraging for food - they choose either Honda or Toyota cars. Forest rangers are convinced that the animals have learned to select specific models. Last year was a record for what rangers call "car clouting". Yosemite black bears clawed into 1,103 vehicles, causing £400,000 of damage, according to the Wall Street Journal. In only two months, bears broke into 28 Hondas and 21 Toyotas. By contrast they tampered with only two Buicks and one Lexus. Steven Thompson, the park's biologist, said mother bears were teaching their cubs how to "clout". A favourite technique was to insert claws just above the rear side door, then pull the door frame down to knee level. This creates a handy stepladder for bears to claw their way through the back seat and into the boot. Mr Thompson said "clouting" resulted from campers keeping food in cars rather than storing it in steel bear safes now installed at most camp sites. One camper, Richard Walther, told rangers he watched as a bear peeled two doors off his Honda, then carefully folded down the back seat to get into the boot, where he pushed a button to open a cooler full of food. "This bear clearly knew what he was doing," said Mr Walther. Park officials are considering how to keep Yosemite's population of up to 500 black bears out of the car parks. Rangers said one solution might be to drive them away with packs of trained dogs. The London Telegraph, Jan. 16, 1999 Crisis in Brazil Brazil Allows Real to Float Stock Market is happy Brazil was finally forced to float its currency yesterday, abandoning its attempt to engineer an orderly devaluation against the dollar after Latin America's largest economy suffered a week of mounting capital flight. The Real quickly fell to R$1.58 against the dollar, but later settled at R$1.43, representing a devaluation of 16 per cent since the start of the week. On Wednesday, the central bank had attempted to stem the crisis by an effective devaluation of about 8 per cent. Brazilian financial markets rebounded strongly in the afternoon as investors in São Paulo, the country's financial centre, greeted the news with a mixture of relief and euphoria. Shares on the São Paulo stock exchange soared 33.4 per cent, its second highest ever rise, while the price of the most liquid Brazilian international bond, the C-Bond, jumped 15.3 per cent. The positive response led some economists to predict the devaluation could be controlled. In an attempt to win international support for the new exchange rate policy, Pedro Malan, finance minister, and Francisco Lopes, the new president of the central bank, travelled to Washington last night to meet senior officials at the US treasury and the International Monetary Fund, which in November agreed a $41.5bn (£25.1bn) rescue package for Brazil. The Brazilian central bank said it would announce a new foreign exchange policy on Monday. Fernando Henrique Cardoso, president, broke off his holiday for the second time in a week to return to Brasília. In a televised address, he said stability depended on Congress approving the government's fiscal austerity plans. Economists said the government was most likely to confirm a floating exchange rate regime on Monday, although they said that the sort of currency board system that neighbouring Argentina uses was also a possibility. Mr Lopes did not rule out a revised system of trading bands. Investors were pleased that the government had not used up more reserves to defend the currency. Opinion was divided, however, over the likely impact on economic activity. "Everyone was expecting the currency to overshoot, but the fact that it did not leaves room for sharp rate cuts," said Dany Rappaport, chief economist at Santander Investment in São Paulo. However, Francis Freis-inger at Merrill Lynch in New York said uncertainty surrounding the currency would keep rates high. "Lower rates will ultimately depend on progress on the fiscal side," he added. On Wall Street, the Dow Jones Industrial Average, which weakened on Wednesday and Thursday, rose 219.62 points to close at 9,340.55 in New York. European markets finished strongly with the FTSE 100 index in London closing 120.8 higher at 5,941 while the Paris and Frankfurt markets were both around 1.4-1.5 per cent higher. The Financial Times, Jan. 16, 1999 Crisis in Brazil Brazil Faces Up to Harsh Reality Defending the indefensible in international finance is a quick route to bankruptcy. So one cheer to Brazil for allowing its currency to float. As a result, it has kept a hard-currency warchest of over $30bn - even more, if one adds in money coming from the Internat
[CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant
-Caveat Lector- Someone just sent this link to another list that I read: http://www.fine-art.com/Steadman/ark.txt It seems that the Ark has been located and it's in the hands of the Israeli government. I'm sure that most of us can rest easy now, and JAH can find a new crusade. Good luck! David Rupp Get caught up in The Web of Fate at http://pages.whowhere.com/arts/david.rupp/home.html. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AF News 19 Nov 99
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! 992112. Guam holds ceremony for return of remains of American servicemen MCCHORD AIR FORCE BASE, Wash. (AFPN) -- The remains of what are believed to be 11 American servicemen from two wars were returned to American soil Nov. 18 for the first time since they went off to war. A Reserve C-17 aircrew from the 446th Airlift Wing here flew the remains of the three American servicemen from the Korean War and eight from the Vietnam War to Andersen Air Base, Guam, today at about 3:45 a.m. (Pacific Standard Time). This mission is the first incidence of American servicemen from two wars being repatriated at the same time. For the Korean War soldiers, the event marks the first time in nearly 50 years, since they were declared missing in action, that they have been on American soil. The three soldiers, thought to have been killed at the Battle of the Chongchon River between late November and early December of 1950, represent only a few of hundreds killed in that region during a period of fierce fighting. More than 8,200 Americans remain missing from the Korean War. Since joint recovery operations began in North Korea in 1996, the remains of what are believed to be 42 American servicemen have been repatriated. Of those 42, three have been positively identified and returned to their families for burial. The eight sets of remains from Southeast Asia -- two from Laos and six from Vietnam -- were recovered by military and civilian members of Hawaii's Joint Task Force-Full Accounting and the Army Central Identification Laboratory during three separate search and recovery missions held from August to November. To date, there are currently 2,043 Americans still unaccounted for from the Vietnam War. Since the end of the Vietnam War, 540 Americans have been positively identified and returned to their families for burial. The Air Force Reservists from McChord picked up the three sets of remains from the Korean War and the two sets of remains found in Laos in Thailand and then flew to Hanoi to pick up the six sets of remains found in Vietnam. The McChord Air Force Reserve C-17 aircrew will leave Guam Nov. 19 and fly to the Army's Central Identification Laboratory where the process to try to identify the servicemen and return them to their families for burial will begin. 992111. Special ops school holds first CMSID for Middle East students by Tech. Sgt. Ginger Schreitmueller Air Force Special Operations Command Public Affairs HURLBURT FIELD, Fla. (AFPN) -- Spending time in the Middle East is nothing new for many U.S. servicemembers. But for two weeks in November, the Middle East came to Hurlburt Field. Seventeen students from eight Middle Eastern and Central Asian nations were at the U.S. Air Force Special Operations School here Nov. 1 through 12 attending the Civil-Military Strategy for Internal Development Course. "The school holds two or three iterations of this course throughout the year, each with a different regional focus," said Col. Brian Maher, the school's commandant. "Past courses we've held have been for Latin America, Africa and Eurasia. This is the 12th iteration of the CMSID since 1993, but the first time the course has been offered to students from the Middle East." Another unique aspect of this iteration was the fact several students represented the Iraqi National Congress, an umbrella organization for the Iraqi opposition. These students attended the course under the provisions of the Iraq Liberation Act, which authorizes the Defense Department to provide equipment, training and other services to seven opposition organizations designated by the president of the United States. CMSID represented the first DOD training carried out under this legislation. Despite this, the Middle East CMSID was not focused on immediate political issues in the region, said the course director. "The purpose of all iterations of CMSID is for the students, military officers and civilian officials from around the world, to better understand the importance of a strong civil-military relationship," said Maj. Thomas Hudd. "We use examples from the U.S. civil-military experience to show students how our nation has built on this cooperation." During the course, students participate in a variety of seminars and discussions to enhance their understanding of the positive civil-military relationship in the United States, said Hudd. "The course is a combination of seminars and visits to local sites, such as the county courthouse, to demonstrate how civil-military relations are structured in the United States," said the major. "Lecturers are government, private sector and academic experts in a variety of subjects. They address issues such as cultural inhibitors to democratic reform, military budget and resource planning, as well as the unique developmental objectives of the region." Students also participate in seminars
[CTRL] Fwd: Clinton to Sell Federal Agencies, Cheap
Sale of Gov't Housing Agency Mulled WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Clinton administration is considering a proposal to privatize a government housing agency as it searches for more money for next year's budget, but the potential impact on consumers remains unclear. The White House's budget arm is considering the plan to sell the Government National Mortgage Association, known as Ginnie Mae, for several billion dollars to help offset the costs of new spending programs. Ginnie Mae is a wholly owned government corporation within the Department of Housing and Urban Development. It guarantees securities backed by pools of mortgages that are issued by private institutions. The mortgages are insured by the Federal Housing Administration or guaranteed by the Veterans Administration or by the Rural Housing Service. ``It's a conceptual proposal that still needs to be developed,'' said Victor Lambert, a HUD spokesman. ``It's an intriguing concept, but the devils are in the details.'' Ginnie Mae increases the supply of credit available for housing by guaranteeing payments even if borrowers can't make them. It generates $400 million a year for the government, but can bring in as much as $600 million. That is reason enough for the cash-strapped housing department to be less than eager to relinquish it, say some. ``HUD never likes to lose anything, because they've lost so much already,'' says Calvin Bradford, who runs a fair housing and lending consulting firm in Williamsburg, Va. Almost 19 million homes have been financed through Ginnie Mae securities. The agency finances more than 12 percent of all the nation's mortgages. President Clinton has already trumpeted proposals to increase military readiness, improve food safety and expand Medicare. The sale of Ginnie Mae could be one way to balance out the expenses in the budget plan, along with a proposal to raise taxes on cigarettes. The impact of any Ginnie Mae sale on home loans is unclear. Any charter to set it up a privatized company must answer whether Ginnie Mae has the backing of the Treasury Department and whether it will change the fees it pays as incentives to lenders to service loans. HUD will not speculate on the potential impact of any sale, calling it ``premature,'' Lambert said. According to a person familiar with the negotiations, HUD helped revise a plan initially proposed by the budget office to make it more ``tailored and practical.'' One possible result is that the administration could bar mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from bidding to buy it. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are government-chartered mortgage market companies that function like commercial corporations and are publicly traded. They compete with FHA, part of the housing department, which insures mortgage loans. ``I assume they want this privatized Ginnie Mae to stand on its own and compete against Freddie and Fannie,'' said bank analyst Bert Ely of Alexandria, Va. Last month, the administration also considered adding a fee to Fannie Mae transactions. The plan was dropped after drawing strong opposition from those ``who did not want to see a tax on homeownership,'' said John Buckley, Fannie Mae's senior vice president for communications.
[CTRL] The Other Jane Doe
-Caveat Lector- Thanks to ctrl researchers for info on Rehnquist's striped robe. I'll include info in a CNNS update. Also, story below from Newsmax is tantalizing. Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." -- Forwarded message -- With NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Friday January 15, 8:58 AM The Other Jane Doe NewsMax.com Quiz 1. What Jane Doe from the Paula Jones case, other than Monica Lewinsky, was a White House intern? 2. What relationsip did this Jane Doe have with the President? 3. Why has this Jane Doe's parent, a sitting member of Congress, been so quiet? 4. Her friends and family say she has fled the country, but we'd like to know, where is this Jane Doe? DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pinochet: 01-16
-Caveat Lector- >From wsws.org WSWS : News & Analysis : South & Central America Chilean government to make presentation to the Pinochet hearing By Julie Hyland 16 January, 1999 The House of Lords has ruled that the Chilean government will be able to make representations to next week's hearing to decide if General Augusto Pinochet is immune from prosecution for human rights abuses. The decision was made on Wednesday, after written representation from the Chilean government. Stating that it did not wish to provide a "personal shield" for the former dictator, the government went on to argue that in the interests of Chile's national sovereignty, any investigation and trial of Pinochet should take place only in the country's own courts. Lord Browne-Wilkinson, chairman of the panel of three Law Lords hearing the representation, ruled that it would be wrong to exclude the Chilean government and that it should be able to make both written and oral representations at the new hearing, which begins on Monday. He also ruled that, given the lateness of its application, the government should serve an account of its case on all other parties to the hearing by no later than 20.00 hours, GMT, on Thursday. Alun Jones QC, acting for the Spanish government which is seeking Pinochet's extradition for trial on charges of torture, hostage-taking and conspiracy to murder, had earlier objected to the Chilean government's application. Its late arrival, and uncertainty over the issues it would raise, aroused fears that "it will lead to not only a longer hearing, but a more difficult one, which could have been avoided by putting in heads of argument long ago," he argued. The Law Lords had ruled in November that the general had no immunity from arrest and extradition to Spain. That ruling was overturned following allegations of possible bias by Lord Hoffmann, who had failed to declare his links with the human rights organisation Amnesty International. As the country's highest court, the legal challenge against the House of Lords ruling--especially on the grounds of possible bias--is unprecedented. Consequently, the British legal system has entered uncharted territory under conditions in which it is dealing with an already highly contentious and internationally high profile case. In an effort to restore its credibility, seven judges, instead of five, will hear the arguments next week. The Law Lords also agreed that a group headed by Amnesty International would be able to make representations, although it restricted the Human Rights Watch organisation to making written submissions. Nonetheless, the Lords efforts at impartiality are being severely strained. The charge of bias saw Pinochet's lawyers objecting to the inclusion of Lord Woolf in next week's panel, after they learned of his invitation to host an Amnesty International fundraiser. Woolf's decision not to participate in that event--because of his possible role in the forthcoming hearing--prevented the challenge against him, but he has now declined to sit. Lord Browne-Wilkinson, the senior Law Lord who earlier declared his governorship of the British Institute of Human Rights, is included in the seven-judge line-up. But he is one of the four judges who overturned the earlier ruling by the panel that included Lord Hoffmann. The panel will also include Lord Millett, a high ranking freemason; Lord Hutton, the former Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland where Britain has been condemned for human rights abuses; and Lord Phillips, who presided over the Maxwell fraud trial that resulted in a whitewash. See Also: The Pinochet extradition [Complete WSWS Coverage] Top of page Readers: The WSWS invites your comments. Please send e-mail. Copyright 1998-99 World Socialist Web Site All rights reserved A<>E<>R The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial
Re: [CTRL] Fw: ANTI-CLINTON ADS KNOCK BROADCASTER OFF-AIR
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 8:26:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, lloyd@A- ALBIONIC.COM writes: << But Hedgcock did the segment on Vaus Tuesday and was taken off the air at KUSI. The following day, Hedgcock went on his radio show to talk about the TV station's move, and asked listeners to call KUSI to complain, a move Hedgcock said led to a telephone call from KUSI interim news director Greg Rawdin. >> Sounds like a publicity stunt to me. After all Rush Limbaugh became a millionaire knocking Clinton, and he started long before Clinton was even elected. Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Impeachent: 01-16
-Caveat Lector- Makes ya feel like you're watching a "Rocky" movie, eh? No? >From wsws.org WSWS : News & Analysis : North America : Clinton Impeachment The Senate impeachment trial Democrats paralyzed as Republicans present their case against Clinton By the Editorial Board 16 January, 1999 In the first two days of the Senate impeachment trial, the House Republicans have established their line of attack--to portray Clinton's ineffectual attempt to conceal his relationship with Monica Lewinsky as a crime against the "rule of law." The aim of the Republicans is to ensure that the trial proceeds within the framework established by the conspirators who organized the entrapment of Clinton in the first place. The issue to be considered is not the right-wing cabal that underlies the impeachment trial, but whether or not Clinton committed "perjury" and "obstruction of justice." The opening statements of House Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, James Sensenbrenner, Asa Hutchinson and their cohorts were laced with charlatanry and deceit. In their hands, the politically-directed lawsuit of Paula Jones--which was orchestrated by the extreme right to destabilize the Clinton administration--has been repackaged as a "civil rights" case. Portraying Paula Jones as a champion of civil rights and justice for women, Sensenbrenner argued that the removal of Clinton was necessary to defend racial and gender equality. This pretense would be laughable were its purpose not so reactionary and menacing to the working class. It is all the more preposterous given the fact that--as Sensenbrenner and everyone else in the Senate chamber were well aware--one of the Republican prosecutors, Georgia Rep. Bob Barr, and Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott have been exposed as supporters of a white supremacist organization called the Council of Conservative Citizens. The Republican strategy can only succeed as long as the Democrats refuse to expose the political conspiracy behind the impeachment drive. Yet the White House and the Democrats have no intention of doing this and are therefore entirely on the defensive. In the first week of the trial they gave the Republicans an enormous political victory by voting unanimously for a bipartisan procedural resolution, thereby endowing the proceedings with precisely what the Republican plotters required--a cloak of constitutional legitimacy. Now they have accepted the Republican framework within which Clinton is to be judged. The White House strategy, such as it is, rests on opposing the calling of witnesses and arguing that the offenses alleged in the articles of impeachment do not merit Clinton's removal from office. This position plays directly into the hands of Clinton's enemies. It allows them to posture as the upholders of the truth and the law, and portray the White House as a guilty party desperate to avoid a full airing of the facts. The only effective and principled strategy for the White House would be to expose the fraudulent character of the Senate trial and denounce the impeachment drive for what it is--a political coup d'etat. If the Democrats were serious about conducting a struggle, they would use the Republican demand for witnesses as an opening to call to the stand a whole series of people who have been involved in the political conspiracy: Kenneth Starr, Linda Tripp, Lucianne Goldberg, the Paula Jones lawyers, right-wing publisher Richard Mellon Scaife, to name a few. But they reject this option out of hand, despite the overwhelming opposition of the public to the impeachment process. Clinton's entire record, from the Whitewater provocation to the present, has been an unending series of maneuvers and concessions. The one consistent thread has been the refusal of the White House and the Democratic Party to expose the machinations of the right wing and make an appeal to the American people to oppose their attack on democratic rights. This is what enables the Republicans to proceed and escalate their offensive. They are now demanding that Clinton testify before the Senate, laying yet another legal and political trap for the White House. At the same time they are holding secret strategy sessions between Senate "jurors" and the House prosecutors. The Republicans want to extend the trial as long as they can. They calculate that the longer it continues without any resistance from the Democrats, the more public opposition will erode. Whatever the outcome of the impeachment trial, whether it ends in Clinton's acquittal, conviction or resignation, the very fact that these proceedings are taking place testifies to an unprecedented political crisis and breakdown of democratic institutions in America. A cabal of neo-fascist politicians, professional right-wing conspirators and gutter journalists has been able to entrap an elected president and leverage a sexual encounter into an impeachment and trial without any significant opposition from within the political establish
Re: [CTRL] SNET: Feds not need satellites to track civilians - now they use yourcell phone
-Caveat Lector- Wasn't there some issue about selling same to the PRC? A<>E<>R The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + -- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: SNET: Feds not need satellites to track civilians - now they use yourcell phone : Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 10:58 AM : : : -> SNETNEWS Mailing List : : (sent to USCMike1's 9,750+ readership - please re-post to your own mailing : list) : : "Feds not need satellites to track civilians - now they use your cell phone" : Big Brother has been watching you and logging your every phone call and : travels. : : USCMike1 : : Thanks to IdsRus for forwarding this post. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fast Track 99
-Caveat Lector- Subj:Fast Track '99 Date: 99-01-15 17:21:42 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Dolan) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Multiple recipients of list TW-LIST) We are often asked, "Will the transnational corporate 'free trade' lobby and their running dog political lackeys in Washington DC actually endeavor to pass 'Fast Track' to expand the flawed and failed NAFTA model during the opening weeks of the 106th Congress?" Now this is an excellent question and, really, the answer depends on who you talk to. Here at Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch, as many of you know, we tend to take a pessimistic perspective -- often an even alarmist attitude -- about the legislative calendar and the resources of the Bizness Roundtable (and their astroturf booster squads like ALOT! and GO TRADE!). That is to say, we err (when we err) on the side of caution; and all things being equal, we figure they'll go for it, after trying to lure the forces of Fair Trade into a false sence of coalitional confidence. So we naturally urge all the Fair Trade activists in this country -- whether from labor unions or environmental organizations or family farm groups or progressive congregations or protectionist militias -- to contact their congressional delegations NOW, especially the new members. In subsequent postings to this modest list-serve, we will offer sample letters to congress-members and newspaper editors. In the meantime, everybody should get on talk radio; also: 1) Our prize-wining web-site is www.tradewatch.org 2) JoC (1/12/99) suggests that the GOP House leadership will be pushing for Fast Track. 3) Inside US Trade (1/15/99) suggests that the White House may not have the stomach for it. 4) An anonymous friend alerts us to the opening gambit of the Senate Finance Committee (a source of much pro-corporate trade policy mischief in the waning days of the 105th Congress). * >Journal of Commerce >Tuesday, January 12, 1999 > >Rep. Archer sees Congress passing fast-track legislation by April >SANTIAGO - Rep. Bill Archer, chairman of House of Representative's Ways >and Means Committee, said he sees Congress approving 'fast- track' >negotiating authority legislation before April. >Mr. Archer, who was heading a congressional delegation in Chile, said >Chile would be the first country with which the legislation would be >used to negotiate a free-trade agreement. >The legislator's comments run counter to most U.S. trade analysts, who >have said the Clinton impeachment scandal over lying about his sexual >relationship with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky will likely >knock fast track off Congress' attention this year. >'We are hopeful we'll be able to pass fast-track no later than April of >this year,' Mr. Archer, a Republican, told reporters after meeting with >Chilean Finance Minister Eduardo Aninat. >He added he was optimistic Congress would grant the Clinton >administration broad 'fast-track' authority to negotiate with other >countries besides Chile. >Mr. Archer said he thought Congress had a better chance of getting >enough votes to approve the negotiating authority. 'We are prepared to >put every effort into getting the votes necessary to pass (fast-track),' >he said. >He believes that Chile would be incorporated as the fourth member of the >North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), rather than negotiate a >bilateral agreement with the US. Chile has already signed comprehensive >bilateral free-trade pacts with Canada and Mexico, the other 2 NAFTA >members. >Chile's incorporation into NAFTA is tied to the creation of a Free Trade >Area of the Americas (FTAA), an initiative agreed upon by the heads of >state of the Americas at last year's America's Summit * WHITE HOUSE STRUGGLING TO SOLIDIFY FAST-TRACK POSITION THIS MONTH ___ Date: January 15, 1999 - Inside US Trade - The Clinton Administration is struggling with how to handle fast-track negotiating authority this year, and has stepped up efforts to seek industry advice on a possible fast-track initiative, according to industry sources. These sources said two events that will likely force the Administration to indicate its position seem to be driving these recent efforts. One is President Clinton's upcoming State of the Union address, which may mention a trade agenda in some way. Sources said that at press time, it was still unclear how much the speech would mention trade, or whether fast track would specifically be mentioned. The other event is a scheduled three-day Senate Finance Committee hearing on trade, sources said. U.S. Trade Representative Charlene Barshefsky, Commerce Secretary William Daley and Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin are scheduled to testify on the first day of this hearing. "The first question to Barshefsky will probably be on fast track,
Re: [CTRL] PJ lied under oath?
-Caveat Lector- At 12:17 PM 1/15/99 -0600, Linda Minor wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Carlene M. Wojahn wrote: >>> >>> Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't the only thing Clinton admitted >to >>> lying about the fact that he had sex with Monica Lewinsky? >> >>Ahhh...but he hasn't admitted that..you see they didn't have sexual >>relations...he wasn't having any with her, she was having relations with >him. > >+++ >The point so many people seem to be missing is that this whole scandal >started with a lawsuit brought by a woman whose credibility is severely in >question, at a time when the law was not even clear whether a civil lawsuit >could be brought against a sitting president. The law was clear to everyone, especially Clinton and his counsel. ---Snip- >Suppose for a moment that she lied about what happened. Suppose also that >the lawyers were acting on behalf of politically motivated individuals who >hate Clinton for political reasons only--because his policies hurt their >pocketbooks, for example. Lawyers taking a matter to trial on behalf of politically motivated plaintiff(s) - now that's something that you don't see every single day on every docket in the country!! Suppose these same people knew Monica's >proclivities and Bill's weakness and set up a scenario for him to fall into, >while at the same time pushing the Jones case through the court so that >depositions could be taken. Then they monitored Monica's reports through >agents Tripp and Goldberg, making sure any available evidence (like the >dress) is preserved. > >I believe this scenario--given the connections between Ted and Barbara >Olson, Kenneth Starr, the Rutherford Foundation and Richard Mellon >Scaife--is much more credible than the "common sense" allegations Starr >presented to Congress, without any real evidence, such as any small-town >prosecutor in Texas would have to have in order to convict anybody for >anything. If the real evidence he had, and the way he got it were revealed, >and were subject to cross-examination in a real court, the judge would >dismiss the case without presenting it to the jury. > >Linda Assuming, arguendo, that your imaginary scenario is true, it proves nothing other than Clinton is lacking in self-control and easily manipulated. The rest is entertaining, but clearly irrelevant. Barb > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] MICROSOFT AND THE BAVARIAN ILLUMINATI
-Caveat Lector- One thing has always puzzled me and I respectfully request the experienced conspiracy researchers on this list to explain how the movements, actions and membership of *supersecret* organizations seems to be common knowledge?? One post even talked about a meeting surrounded with armed guards to ensure privacy, and then proceeded to set forth the meeting attendees and agenda. I would sincerely appreciate clarification, or if you know whether something is in the archives already. Also, organizations touting great secrecy and knowledge to which only a few are privy advertising in the back of magazines and all over the Internet? Seems contradictory and certainly not very secret. Thanks, Barb At 02:21 PM 1/15/99 -0800, SW wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >Please send as far and wide as possible. > >Thanks, > >Robert Sterling >Editor, The Konformist >http://www.konformist.com > >http://www.konformist.com/1999/ms33.htm > >MICROSOFT AND THE BAVARIAN ILLUMINATI > > "The chessboard is the world, the pieces are the phenomena of the > universe, the rules of the game are the laws of nature. The player on > the other side is hidden from us." -- Thomas Henry Huxley > > "In every grain of wheat there lies hidden the soul of a star." > -- Arthur Machen > > "The Old Ones were, the Old Ones are and the Old Ones will be... not > in the spaces we know of, but _between_ them ... Yog-Sothoth is the > Gate." -- Abd al-Hazred, _Al Azif_ > > "All perception is inferential; all inference uncertain; all > theory, a combination of perception and inference, is therefore > educated guessing." > -- de Selby, _Golden Hours_, I, 93 > >These days most people have heard of Microsoft Corporation, and its >founder Bill Gates. The majority of computers in use today use Microsoft >system software, and those that do not often run applications from >Microsoft. However, few people know the true story behind the rise of >Microsoft and even fewer suspect the terrible cosmic secrets that are >concealed beneath the facade of a successful software company. > >In the Object Linking and Embedding 2.0 Programmer's Reference there is >a very curious term. On page 78, the second paragraph starts with the >sentence, "In the aggregation model, this internal communication is >achieved through coordination with a special instance of IUnknown >interface known as the controlling unknown of the aggregate." The term >"controlling unknown" is a very interesting choice of words. It is not the most >intuitively obvious term for what it is describing (a base class used for >implementing an object-oriented data exchange/embedding system). > >A term strikingly similar to "controlling unknown" was the term "unknown >superiors", used by many occult secret societies. These included the Strict >Observance Masonic lodge, whose members were sometimes referred to >as "illuminati", and which had some connection with Adam Weishaupt's >order. "Unknown superiors" is a term that refers to non-corporeal or >superhuman agencies in command of secret societies or mystery cults. >Such an agency is frequently known as the "inner head" of an order of >organisation, as opposed to the outer head, who is human. > >Organisations that claimed or were claimed to be commanded by such >"unknown superiors" include the Ordo Templi Orientis of Aleister Crowley >and the Knights Templar, whose Inner Head was apparently a being named >Baphomet. > >Apart from the term "controlling unknown", another hint at the secrets >behind Microsoft is the fact that Microsoft Windows has a limit of five >window device contexts. Five is a decidedly odd number for such an >application, being neither a power of two nor one less than a power of two, >but let us not forget Adam Weishaupt's discovery of the Law of Fives in the >Necronomicon*. > >Few people for sure how many buildings there are in the Microsoft campus >in Redmond, WA. No maps of the entire facility are known to exist. Some >Microsoft employees put the estimate at six or three. An article in an >Australian newspaper has claimed that there are 22 buildings. That is partly >true; however, there is another building, hidden from the public and even >from most Microsoft employees. The twenty-third building, or Building 7, is >pentagonal in shape; its exact location is known only to five people (of >whom Bill Gates may be one), however it is believed that the building is >accessible from elsewhere in the Microsoft campus by a secret passage. > >What is in the five sided building is not known. However, it is believed that >the contents of Building 7 are of a supernatural nature. Apart from the >Pentagon, there was a similar five-sided building in Nazi Germany. This >has been carefully kept hidden from the public. One hypothesis is that >Building 7 is inhabited by, or used to communicate with, the Inner Head, or >"controlling unknown". The identity of the Outer Head is unknown. Bill Gates >may be the Ou
[CTRL] Redundant Waste Disposal Methods
-Caveat Lector- (DOW lets you do great things... --SW) Greenpeace Shuts Wrong Pipe in Dow Chemical Action SAO PAULO, Brasil, January 15, 1999 (ENS) - A Dow Chemicals plant in Guaruja, Sao Paulo was targeted by Greenpeace activists from Brazil, Argentina, Spain, the United States, Germany and Ghana, Thursday. The activists cemented a discharge pipe shut. They are now sitting in a boat in front of the Dow plant bearing signs against toxics. The activists claim that the pipe, located in a mangrove area behind Dow's latex plant, was discharging toxic chemicals into the river Rio da Pouca Saude, which means "poor health" river, part of the Santos estuary system. But Claudio Fiorante, environment security and product stewardship, manager for Dow Latin America, told ENS in an interview that the company pipe that discharges treated wastewater is over a mile away. The pipe shut by Greenpeace is a rainwater discharge pipe, Fiorante said. "We have regular visits from the Environmental Agency, they take regular samples, and we meet all environmental regulations in Brazil," Fiorante said. "We are using the best technology available, the Dow manager stressed. "We have a liquid waste treatment plant that discharges to a creek, then to the channel and then to the Atlantic Ocean." Dow Chemical's pipe blocked by Greenpeace activist (Photo (c) Greenpeace/Hornos) The ship MV GREENPEACE collected eight drums of what the activists say is contaminated river water and delivered them to the company's dock in a symbolic gesture to return the contamination to the company. According to sample data collected by Greenpeace a number of highly toxic pollutants including organochlorines and phenols were detected in the effluent and sediment samples. "Dow's hidden toxic discharges are scandalous and unacceptable. We demand an immediate stop to the release of contaminants into the water and a full commitment towards zero toxic discharges and clean production," said Marcelo Furtado from Greenpeace. There was no attempt on the part of Greenpeace to meet with Dow personnel, who would have been open to a meeting, Fiorante said. We did not like how they did," he told ENS. "They invaded our facility. If they came to us and tried to talk, we would have been open to talk with them." The Dow plant in Guaruja manufactures epoxy resins, latex and polyglicols and has been fined by the Sao Paulo State environmental protection agency for improper disposal of sludge contaminated with tetrachloromethane. Greenpeace says its samples indicate industrial contamination of waste water and river sediment by a wide range of organic compounds. Of particular concern are the volatile compounds tetrachloromethane, known as carbon tetrachloride, and chloroform, widely used as solvents. The phenol BHT which is used as an antioxidant in rubber and plastic was also found. All substances are known or suspected carcinogens. But Fiorante said Dow is not even planning to remove the cement from the pipe blocked by Greenpeace because the pipe is not really needed. "We have several other points for rainwater discharge," he said. The action is part of Global Tour for a Toxics Free Future, an international campaign Greenpeace started last December in Argentina against industrial pollution and chemical contamination. During the tour Greenpeace is releasing information and mobilizing public support for a global commitment to phase out toxic substances. The expedition is currently in Brazil and will later on move to the Mediterranean, Europe and Asia. The Dow Chemical Company is the fifth largest chemical company in the world, with annual sales of more than $20 billion. Dow provides chemicals, plastics, energy, agricultural products, consumer goods and environmental services. The company operates 114 manufacturing sites in 33 countries. © Environment News Service (ENS) 1998. All Rights Reserved. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Today's Midi http://www.anomalous-images.com/HoldMeThrillMeKissMeKillMe.mid New Phobos Update Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html ht
[CTRL] Navy Trained Political Assassins? A-albionic Weekly Up-date
-Caveat Lector- A-albionic Research Weekly Up-date of 1-16-99 --- In This Issue ^^ 1. Navy Trained Political Assassins? 2. Recent Additions and Up-Dates to Recommended Reading -- 1. Navy Trained Political Assassins? London Sunday Times Navy Commander Thomas Narut, stationed in Naples, admitted at a NATO conference to a training program for killers. According to Harry Martin and David Caul: A U.S. Navy psychologist, who claims that the Office of Naval Intelligence had taken convicted murderers from military prisons, used behavior modification techniques on them, and then relocated them in American embassies throughout the world. Just prior to that time, the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee had censured the CIA for its global political assassination plots, including plots against Fidel Castro. The Navy psychologist was Lt. Commander Thomas Narut of the U.S. Regional Medical Center in Naples, Italy. The information was divulged at an Oslo NATO conference of 120 psychologists from the eleven nation alliance. According to Dr. Narut, the U.S. Navy was an excellent place for a researcher to find "captive personnel" whom they could could use as guinea pigs in experiments. The Navy provided all the funding necessary, according to Narut. Dr. Narut, in a question and answer session with reporters from many nations, revealed how the Navy was secretly programming large numbers of assassins. He said that the men he had worked with for the Navy were being prepared for commando-type operations, as well as covert operations in U.S. embassies worldwide. He described the men who went through his program as "hit men and assassins" who could kill on command. Careful screening of the subjects was accomplished by Navy psychologists through the military records, and those who actually received assignments where their training could be utilized, were drawn mainly from submarine crews, the paratroops, and many were convicted murderers serving military prison sentences. Several men who had been awarded medals for bravery were drafted into the program. The assassins were conditioned through "audio-visual desensitization". The process involved the showing of films of people being injured or killed in a variety of ways, starting with very mild depictions, leading up to the more extreme forms of mayhem. Eventually, the subjects would be able to detach their feelings even when viewing the most horrible of films. The conditioning was most successful when applied to "passive-aggressive" types, and most of these ended up being able to kill without any regrets. The prime indicator of violent tendencies was the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory. Dr. Narut knew of two Navy programming centers, the neuropsychiatric laboratory in San Diego and the U.S. Regional Medical Center in Italy, where he worked. During the audio-visual desensitization programming, restraints were used to force the subject to view the films. A device was used on the subjects eyelids to prevent him from blinking. Typically, the preliminary film was on an African youth being ritualistically circumcised with a dull knife and without any anesthetic. The second film showed a sawmill scene in which a man accidentally cut off his fingers. In addition to the desensitization films, the potential assassins underwent programming to create prejudicial attitude in the men, to think of their future enemies, especially the leaders of these countries, as sub-human. Films and lectures were presented demeaning the culture and habits of the people of the countries where it had been decided they would be sent. After his NATO lecture, Dr. Narut disappeared. He could not be located. Within a week of so after the lecture, the Pentagon issued an emphatic denial that the U.S. Navy had "engaged in psychological training or other types of training of personnel as assassins." They disavowed the programming centers in San Diego and Naples and stated they were unable to locate Narut, but did provide confirmation that he was a staff member of the U.S. Regional Medical Center in Naples. Dr. Alfred Zitani, an American delegate to the Oslo conference, did verify Narut's remarks and they were published in the Sunday Times. Sometime later, Dr. Narut surfaced again in London and recanted his remarks, stating that he was "talking in theoretical and not practical terms." Shortly thereafter, the U.S. Naval headquarters in London issued a statement indicating that Dr. Narut's remarks at the NATO conference should be discounted because he had "personal problems". Dr. Narut never made any further public statements about the program. During the NATO conference in Oslo, Dr. Narut had remarked t
[CTRL] Fwd: Hillary: It Takes a Village -- on Mars
Okay, let me guess ... Whose law firm will make big bucks (through a government monopoly) handling the title to Martian real estate for aging yuppies with Alzheimer's? Mrs. Clinton, Kids Dream of Mars WASHINGTON (AP) -- First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton and arts officials kicked off planning Thursday for the first permanent station on Mars by some of the schoolkids who may eventually go there. Youngsters are being asked to think about the year 2030 and a ``Millennium Mars Project.'' So far, only small experimental vehicles have been landed on Mars. ``We will all be reliving, through these young people's imagination, what it means to create a new world,'' Ms. Clinton said during the kickoff at the National Air and Space Museum, part of the Smithsonian Institution. The idea is to get pupils and high school students working with scientists and technicians on the design for a permanent Mars settlement, according to officials at the National Endowment for the Arts, which is putting $500,000 into the project. ``Our young citizens will not only imagine what new dance and music and painting will emerge in a community on Mars,'' said NEA Chairman Bill Ivey, ``but they must also consider what our interplanetary pioneers will carry with them. They will need creative minds -- imagination and ingenuity -- to solve the problems they are certain to encounter as they invent their new world.'' Before her speech, Mrs. Clinton and Donna Shirley, who managed the Mars Pathfinder project, met 15 pupils from Washington's Anne Beers Elementary School. Sitting under a prototype space suit for visitors to Mars, they talked about work the children have done on how they imagined living conditions would be -- based on what has already been discovered about conditions on the planet.
[CTRL] Fwd: UN and World Bank Confer
U.N., World Bank Discuss Assistance WASHINGTON (AP) -- The heads of several U.N. agencies and the World Bank chief met Friday to explore how they can bridge the gap between the time humanitarian emergency aid runs out and longer term development aid arrives. ``War doesn't end with a neat peace process,'' said Sadako Ogata, the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, which provides immediate care and shelter for refugees. ``When the war subsides, our work supposedly subsides and ... then the development agencies arrive much later,'' she added. ``This in-between period is very important because if this is addressed properly perhaps we can prevent the recurrence of conflict.'' The meeting at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank, also included World Bank president James Wolfensohn and the heads of the U.N. Development Program, the World Food Program and UNICEF, the U.N. children's fund.
[CTRL] Fwd: Antichrist a Jew, Says Falwell
At the First Coming, Jesus Christ was a Jew. At the SECOND Coming, though, if he's STILL a Jew, he's the Antichrist. Falwell: Antichrist Probably Jewish WILLIAMSBURG, Va. (AP) -- The Rev. Jerry Falwell said the Antichrist is probably alive today and is a male Jew. He also believes the second coming of Christ probably will be within 10 years. In a speech Thursday about the concern people have over the new millennium, Falwell told about 1,500 people at a conference on evangelism at Kingsport, Tenn., that the Antichrist is male and is a Jew. ``Who will the antichrist be? I don't know. Nobody else knows,'' said Falwell, whose Sunday morning services at Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg are carried by television stations nationwide. ``Is he alive and here today? Probably. Because when he appears during the Tribulation period he will be a full-grown counterfeit of Christ. Of course he'll be Jewish. Of course he'll pretend to be Christ. And if in fact the Lord is coming soon, and he'll be an adult at the presentation of himself, he must be alive somewhere today.'' According to the Bible, the Antichrist will spread universal evil before the end of the world but will be finally conquered at the second coming of Christ. Falwell, the chancellor of Liberty University in Lynchburg and founder of the now-defunct Moral Majority, said Friday in Williamsburg that he did not intend for his statement to be anti-Jewish. He said he meant only that the Antichrist must be Jewish because Jesus Christ was a Jew. ``If he's going to be the counterfeit of Christ, he has to be Jewish,'' Falwell said. ``The only thing we know is he must be male and Jewish.'' Rabbi James Rudin, the director of inter-religious affairs for the American Jewish Committee in New York, said the comment surprised him because he knows Falwell is a strong supporter of Israel and is not anti-Jewish. ``This is part of what I call millennial madness,'' Rudin said. ``To single out any one man and particularly to identify him as Jewish plays into some latent and historical anti-Semitism from the past.''
[CTRL] Larry Flynt Stoned
-Caveat Lector-
January 16, 1999
JOURNAL/ By FRANK RICH
Larry Flynt Stoned
We didn't need Larry Flynt to tell us that Bob Barr is a hypocrite. The
Georgia Congressman's sleazy marital history was already public back in '96
when he had the gall to champion an absurd bill called the Defense of Marriage
Act -- which that other proud defender of marriage, Bill Clinton, then signed
into law. But we may need Larry Flynt anyway -- not to expose any impeachment
manager's sex life but simply because his very presence exposes the
disingenuousness of everybody else, conservative and liberal, Republican and
Democrat, press and public, who inhabits the epic Bosch canvas that is
Monicagate. In the land of the pious hypocrite, the honest pornographer is
king.
After a year in which the President repeatedly told us he didn't have sex with
that woman, and his antagonists repeatedly told us that their case "is not
about sex," and the media constantly lamented how horribly sad they were to be
covering this sex-driven, albeit lucrative, story, Mr. Flynt's candor is
downright refreshing. In interviews, he refers to himself as a "smut
publisher" who wants "to sell [his] magazine," not a public-minded seeker of
truth. He openly declares his partisanship ("I love Clinton. He's a great
President.") and eagerly declares his hope to have "the effect of derailing
the impeachment process." The Hustler editor who serves as Mr. Flynt's
collaborator in tracking down Congressional trysts unabashedly describes their
enterprise as "vandalism," not journalism.
It is almost too delicious to watch Mr. Flynt throw his higher-minded
colleagues in the news business into conniptions. Washington's bloviator-in-
chief, David Broder, brooded on PBS about how "the mainstream press" is now
having its agenda set by "the bottom-feeders in our business" -- and yet he
works for the paper (The Washington Post) that first asked the adultery
question to a Presidential candidate (Gary Hart) and is a regular on "Meet the
Press," the first mainstream Sunday gabfest that made a panelist out of Matt
Drudge, the Clinton-haters' answer to Flynt (though not as factually
accurate).
Mr. Flynt's antics have similarly prompted many mainstream TV news outlets --
CNBC, ABC's "20/ 20," CNN, "CBS This Morning" -- to demonstrate yet again
that, for all their pious declarations to the contrary, the scandals they care
most about are those with sex.
The sexual allegations about Mr. Barr have received far more play than the
revelations of the Congressman's involvement with a white supremacist
organization -- much as TV pursued Monica rather than Clinton fund-raising and
wag-the-dog scandals, and largely ignored Henry Hyde's S.&L. shenanigans and
Dan Burton's campaign-finance chicanery to air their sexual histories instead.
The viewing audience, which tells pollsters it's had enough sex, exercises its
own hypocrisy by rewarding Mr. Flynt's appearance on "Rivera Live" with the
show's highest rating since the O. J. civil verdict.
The other hypocrites unmasked by Mr. Flynt's pranks could fill a cabinet
department. It's hard to stop laughing when Dick Morris, who sucked
prostitutes' toes while on the White House payroll, decries the publisher for
"degrading American politics." Jerry Falwell, a past Flynt legal foe, now goes
on TV to condemn his old adversary's tactics -- never mind that Mr. Falwell
himself marketed a video accusing the President of murder.
Conservative politicians and publications that happily feasted on a tabloid's
purchase of Gennifer Flowers's revelations and the recent Drudge-spread hoax
about an illegitimate Clinton son are now fuming about Mr. Flynt. Liberals and
feminists who vehemently attacked a Hollywood film for ostensibly sanitizing
the Hustler publisher's odious depiction of women are curiously silent about
his pursuit of Barr & Co. As for the President, his spokesman, Joe Lockhart,
says that his boss wants Mr. Flynt to "cease and desist." Oh, puh-leeze!
Larry Flynt is a bull in the china shop of false pieties, empty pretensions
and sexual sermonizing that have brought us to this low moment in American
history. On Thursday, alas, he checked into a Los Angeles hospital with
pneumonia. The networks that have been broadcasting soap operas rather than
the Senate trial their anchors keep telling us is "historic" can only pray
that Mr. Flynt, who has it in his power to make impeachment must-see TV again,
gets well soon.
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[CTRL] Fwd: Canadian Court Ruling on Kiddie Porn
Canada Rules on Child Porn Case VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) -- A provincial judge ruled Friday that Canada's law against possessing child pornography violates the freedom-of- expression clause of the country's Charter of Rights. ``There is no evidence that demonstrates a significant increase in the danger to children caused by pornography,'' ruled Duncan Shaw, a justice of British Columbia's Supreme Court. He said the section of the Criminal Code that outlaws possession of child pornography is invalid because it violates charter provisions guaranteeing freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression. The case involved pornography possession charges against John Sharpe. Police raided his home near Vancouver in April 1995, seizing compact disks, photos and writings about child pornography. Prosecutors argued that allowing people to possess child pornography puts children at risk from pedophiles. But Shaw said the contention that materials depicting illegal sex with children actually prompt people to commit such acts was ``only assumption.'' ``The intrusion into freedom of expression and the right of privacy is so profound that it is not outweighed by the limited beneficial effects of the prohibition,'' Shaw wrote. The provincial attorney general, Ujjal Dosanjh, said he needed time to study the ruling before commenting or deciding on an appeal. However, Barry Penner, justice spokesman for the opposition Liberal Party in the provincial legislature, said the province should appeal immediately ``to look after children ... and protect them from being abused by sexual deviants.''
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Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- Teo1000 and all, Last night on the local 10pm news, I saw a dated news clip from Clinton's 2nd inauguration, where he was taking the oath of office from the chief justice...the "gold stripes" were present then...I don't know what the story was referring to however, the audio was muted and, I was reading and just glanced up and saw the stripes, smiled at the conspiracy of it all, and went back to my book. Figured I'd post the info today, thanks for the lead-in Teo1000. Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 1/15/99 7:22:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << In 1994, Perrine played the > role of the Lord Chancellor in "Iolanthe" on a night when Rehnquist was in > the audience. Afterwards, the Chief Justice had the gold-striped Lord > Chancellor's robe copied. Perrine also performed in "Patience" in 1986, when > Rehnquist had a walk-on part. (Note: The Victorian Lyric Opera Company is > performing "Princess Ida" by Gilbert and Sullivan weekdays from February 17 > through March 7. For more information, contact 301-879-0220.) (3:00) > -- >> > > Well, it doesn't say how long afterward it was copied, or whether he ever wore > it during other proceedings. > Teo1000 > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 8:25:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I'm getting concerned that this list is leaning so heavily to the right. And I hear that David Duke--the Grand Old Wizard--will be running for Congress, too. Wouldn't it be weird if it turned out that Charley Manson was right--even if his timing was off by a decade or two. >> You know how it is, SnoOwl. Leaning to the right makes you lots more money. Look what it's done for some of our journalists who were relatively unknown a few years ago, but after blatting conscientiously far right material, they are now editing magazines. Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: ANTI-CLINTON ADS KNOCK BROADCASTER OFF-AIR
-Caveat Lector- I think this where a lot of people get into to trouble with freedom of the communication. They neglect remembering there are editors and owners with agendae beyond the scope of everyday pleasantries. There may be instances when the story or item is compelling but even those don't come out of the dark. Unfortunately there seems to be disconnect between what people ought to be able to say and what they're allowed to say. For those who freewheel on the owners' (or even taxpayers') time, they should be able to have some idea of what the consequences of their actions, gaffes, or boners will be -- especially after what? 13 years in this case? I imagine some broadcaster-types aspire to an Imus or a Stern or someone of their ilk but one wonders what even they have (had) to do to get and stay on the air. "" McKinnon told CNS that Hedgcock will remain off-the-air at KUSI "until Roger decides to live up to his contract." "" "Roger's talking about Clinton lying - he'd better watch his own act," said McKinnon. "We just told him that it wasn't in the guidelines that we agreed to, and that we weren't going to let him do it until we talked about it. This came out of the dark. He blindsided us on this show," said McKinnon. "" A<>E<>R The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. -- : From: Lloyd Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: [CTRL] Fw: ANTI-CLINTON ADS KNOCK BROADCASTER OFF-AIR : Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 7:23 PM : : -Caveat Lector- : : -Original Message- : From: Dr. Jai Maharaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Newsgroups: : soc.culture.usa,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,alt.impeach.clinton,alt.politi : cs.usa.congress,soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.news-media : Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 2:54 AM : Subject: ANTI-CLINTON ADS KNOCK BROADCASTER OFF-AIR : : : ANTI-CLINTON ADS KNOCK BROADCASTER OFF-AIR : : CNS : January 15, 1999 : : (CNS) While President Bill Clinton awaits the outcome of a Senate : impeachment trial originally spawned by a "he-said, she-said" : lawsuit, a San Diego broadcaster is involved in a "he-said, he- : said" standoff with a local television station owner. : : Roger Hedgcock, a talk radio host on KOGO radio and a commentator : for KUSI television, has been relieved of his TV duties following a : Tuesday broadcast in which he promoted an anti-Clinton advertising : campaign. : : Hedgcock told CNS that KUSI informed him Wednesday evening that he : was "suspended until further notice," because of his TV commentary : about the "Dear Mr. President" radio campaign, in which children : read imaginary letters to Clinton seeking his advice on how to get : out of trouble for lying. : : The ads have been running this week in Washington, D.C. and New : York City, and the ad's producer, San Diego songwriter Steve Vaus, : has been trying to raise money to run the ads in other cities : across the country. : : "Along with Gingrich and Livingston, I've now lost my job for : advocating that Clinton lose his," said Hedgcock, who's done : commentary for KUSI since the mid-1990s and been a top-rated San : Diego broadcaster for 13 years. : : According to Hedgcock, KUSI was uncomfortable with his idea of : doing a commentary about Vaus and his commercials, and the TV : station suggested he instead do a segment on pornography publisher : Larry Flynt and his quest for sexual information on Republican : Members of Congress. : : But Hedgcock did the segment on Vaus Tuesday and was taken off the : air at KUSI. The following day, Hedgcock went on his radio show to : talk about the TV station's move, and asked listeners to call KUSI : to complain, a move Hedgcock said led to a telephone call from KUSI : interim news director Greg Rawdin. : : "He said 'you're suspended until further notice,'" Hedgcock told : CNS. "He said 'we don't want you talking about this o the radio.'" : When contacted by CNS, Rawdin refused to comment about his : conversation with Hedgcock, but KUSI owner Mike McKinnon denied : that he or Rawdin tried to muzzle Hedgcock on his radio show. : : McKinnon disputed other aspects of Hedgcock's account of the : situation as well, telling CNS that the broadcaster was put "on : hiatus" because he aired a commentary without prior station : approval. McKinnon also said Hedgcock wasn't telling the truth : about the circumstances surrounding his absence from KUSI's : airwaves. : : "Roger's talking about Clinton lying - he'd better watch his own : act,"
Re: [CTRL] PJ lied under oath?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 8:19:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Sex, period. Not 'sexual relations', not 'sex act'...it's all parsing words, anyways, cuz anyone with half a brain knows sex = sex act = sexual relations >> It's interesting as a matter of discussion, but for some it's a matter of getting fired. According to the AP writer, Brenda Coleman (reported in my morning paper), one Dr. George D. Lundberg, editor of The Journal of the American Medical Association for l7 years was fired Friday for publishing a what-is-sex survey of college students to coincide with President Clinton's impeachment trial. The article - "Would You Say You Had Sex' If...? found that 59 percent of college students surveyed did not consider having oral sex as having "had sex." What is and what isn't having sexual relations is obviously very serious business. Or at least it is to the AMA. Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Foster, NSA, and Banks: Part 2
-Caveat Lector- Allegations Regarding Vince Foster, the NSA, and Banking Transactions Spying, Part II by J. Orlin Grabbe Upon hearing of the alleged connections between Vincent Foster, the NSA, and its subsidiary Systematics--since renamed ALLTEL Information Services (4001 N. Rodney Parham Rd., Little Rock, Arkansas 72212-2496, phone 501/220-5100)-- ALLTEL Corp. (1 Allied Dr., Little Rock, Arkansas 72202, phone 501/661-8000) hired a San Francisco libel attorney named Charles O. Morgan (450 Sansome Street, 13th Floor, San Francisco, CA 94111-3382, phone 415/392-2037) to threaten journalists who made such allegations. ALLTEL feared the economic consequences of the charges made against its private subsidiary: "Banking and financial institutions are clients of ALLTEL. The irresponsible and false statements . . . have and will cause my client substantial damage" (letter from Charles O. Morgan to Agora Inc., March 28, 1995). Published news articles in the *American Banker* and elsewhere show that Systematics' (ALLTEL Information Serivces') customers have included Home Bank, Manufactuers Hanover (now merged with Chemical), Vboss, Southwestern Bell, various overseas military bases, City National, California Federal Bank, Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, Guaranty Federal Savings Bank, River Forest Bankcorp, First Busey Corp, Decatur Federal Savings and Loan, Republic National Bank of New York, Anchor Savings Bank, Integra Financial Corp, Banc One, Nations Bank, Citicorp, Vermont National Bank, CNB Bancshares, Liberty Bancorp of Oklahoma City, First Union, First National Bank of Maryland, Amcore Financial, Horizon, Oxford First Corp, Navy Federal Credit Union, People's National Bank, Drung Thai Bank Ltd., Bank of Commerce Berhad, Unisys Corp, Corestates Financial Corp, Novorosiysk Industrial Commercial Ecobank, Royal Bank of Trinidad and Tobago, United Overseas Bank (Singapore), Soneri Bank Ltd (Pakistan), Banco National Ultramarino SA (Macao), BMJ Financial Corp, Security Bank (Arkansas), Hiberia National Bank, Glendale Federal Bank, First Alabama Bancshares, Union Bank of Manila, First Pacific National Bank, Pine Bluff National Bank, Consolidated Bank (Miami), Citibank of Australia, Savings Bank of the Russian Federation, Family Bank, Sabine State Bank & Trust, Central Bank, Chemical Bank, Citibank, Moscow Savings Bank, National Home Mortgage Company, Barclays Bank PLC, Keycorp, Bank IV Kansas, Borel of California, Dime Bancorp, and Bellsouth Cellular Corp. According to John E. Steuri, Chief Executive Officer, President, and Chairman of the Board of Systematics: "Today, we have banking, financial services, cellular telephone and hospital clients in thirty-six (36) countries outside the United States" (memo from John Steuri to Jim Norman, March 8, 1995, with the subject listed as "Systematics"). Attorney Charles O. Morgan sent threatening letters to, among others, Agora Inc., publisher of Strategic Investment (824 East Baltimore Street, Baltimore, MD 21202-4799), to David Fondiller and Jim Norman of Forbes (62 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10011), and to Bill Hamilton of Inslaw Inc. (1125 15th St. N.W., #300, Washington D.C. 20005-2707, phone 202/828-8600). In denying various allegations, Charles O. Morgan makes personal claims of knowledge that border on the supernatural. For example, Strategic Investment had written in its March 22, 1995, issue: "Several years ago, investigative reporter Danny Cassalario [sic] spent many months investigating the Inslaw case. He told associates that his probe had revealed an astonishing tale of corruption that he intended to reveal in a story entitled 'The Octopus.' He was days away from completing his story when he was found dead, allegedly a 'suicide.' " In his March 28, 1995, letter to Agora, Inc., Charles O. Morgan makes the blanket assertion: "Systematics was not in any way involved in any investigation by Danny Cassalario [sic]" (page 2). How could Charles O. Morgan possibly know what topics Danny Casolaro, a private journalist, was investigating at the time of Casolaro's death? Was Charles O. Morgan in close communication with Danny Casolaro at the time of Casolaro's death? Did Charles O. Morgan examine Casolaro's papers and notes following Casolaro's death, to determine if there were any references to Systematics? Or
Re: [CTRL] Slave Documentation - H.H.
-Caveat Lector- YnrChyldzWyld wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Sno0wl wrote: > >I would say that this list is in deep trouble---again. > > Since you said new, and I believe I am the newest, it appears that you are talking about me. I would say it is because of name calling, I do want to learn if we can get back to the points at hand. > > >Didn't we go through all this already with the guys who thought some Nazis were > "nice." Now we're doing it with some other guys who think some slavery is okay? I never said it was okay..try to relate to the past. Can we condemn those, the society for different mores. It was not necessarily wrong at that time. Carlene (trying to get back onto the topic...just watch..for name calling) > > >and who are doubletalking about racism? > > I am not talking about racism, and I am not a racist, . Please show me a > statement that show that I am racistnope I don't think so. (Thinking about > conversations I have had with my family...they defintiely know that I am not. > However, I will point out things, that things that are acceptable for society..and > right for that society..at that time, can not be judged by today. > > I hope other 'old timers' on this list also notice a distinct similarity, > >>>Right !! Let us get back to the topic..at hand. > not only between this new crop and the old neonazi group, but also a > strange similarity amongst the postings of the 'new' pro-slavery > 'crowd'...almost as if it were the same person talking... ;-) > > >Wha's goin' on here? I haven't got the time to waste. Yeah right !! Huh !! Oh, ok now I am a neo-nazi ? Yeah right, far from it. If you want details on my beliefs let me know. > Carlene > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Nazi Model For Outcome-Based Education
-Caveat Lector- The Nazi Model For Outcome-Based Education by Berit Kjos History keeps repeating itself, but few heed its warnings. If our leaders did, they would know that today's massive attempt to transform our culture by nationalizing education will bring repression, not freedom. They would see that the manipulative strategies of Mastery Learning will create human puppets, not independent thinkers. In spite of the information explosion, America hasn't heard the message. Perhaps our leading change agents don't know what their deceptive strategies and dumbed-down curricula will do to our children. Maybe they haven't noticed the similarities between their educational strategies and former Nazi tactics for molding young minds and teaching group conformity. Perhaps today's psychological manipulations are simply a modern expression of human "wisdom" without biblical guidelines. However, it seems clear that U.S. and Nazi change agents share one tragic trait: the dearth of the kind of honesty and integrity that once made America safe for children. That propaganda and indoctrination were two of the cornerstones of Nazi education is no secret. Hitler's goal was National Socialism, a fascist state that would subdue the world. Learning his lessons from Soviet revolutionaries, he knew that only cloaked promises and misleading visions could win the support of the unsuspecting masses -- and build a compliant army of young radicals. That America's educational and political leaders would stoop to the same low standard has remained hidden from the general public. That their aim is global socialism with cradle-to-grave surveillance is angrily denied by the trained and trusted guardians of our children's minds. If the sleeping public doesn't wake up and resist soon, it will surely be too late to stop the rising tide of deception that threatens to engulf our children. If so, God's people will once again have demonstrated the blinding consequences of spurning truth and loving lies. The source of the following quotations is the 1983 book, Nazism: A History in Documents and Eyewitness Accounts, 1919-1945, edited by J. Noakes and G. Pridham in cooperation with the Department of History and Archaeology at the University of Exeter. It represents years of research into the primary documents of the Nazi era. Many of its following quotes have been shortened in order to include as many illustrations as possible within the given space. The page numbers are given at the end of each quote. Since this comparison was written to accompany my book, Brave New Schools, I have not included definitions and explanations of the new American/international education system. All the terms and buzzwords are explained in Brave New Schools and defined in its glossary. The bold type introducing the quotes refers to the various aspects of the global system scheduled to be in place by year 2001. The quotes represent the Nazi system. Please wake up, America! TRANSFORM THE WORLD BY CHANGING THE CHILDREN Change the children first: "The Nazi leadership appreciated the difficulty of indoctrinating the older generation They were all the more determined to mold the new generation along Nazi lines. As the leader of the Nazi Teacher's League, Hans Schemm, put it: 'Those who have the youth on their side control the future.'" (416) Create world-class citizen: "...create a new type of student..." (440) TEACH POLITICALLY CORRECT BELIEFS AND VALUES Condition students for the new social and economic order: "German youth must no longer... be confronted with the choice of whether it wishes to grow up in a spirit of materialism or idealism, of racism or internationalism, of religious or godlessness, but it must be consciously shaped according to principles which are recognized as correct...according to the principles of the ideology of National Socialism." (432) Censorship of contrary models: "The teaching... aimed to encourage a 'consciousness of being German In the selection of teaching materials they should eschew those works which 'contradict German feelings or paralyze energies necessary for self-assertion' and only those modern works would be selected which 'have an affinity with the spirit of the new Germany'." (437) ESTABLISH AN OUTCOME-BASED EDUCATION SYSTEM Restructure schools and nationalize tests and standards: "the regime endeavored to assert its control over the education system through reorganization and centralization..." (433) Affective (feeling-centered, attitudinal), not cognitive, learning earns the graduation certificate: "Many pupils believe they can simply drift through for eight years and secure their school-leaving certificate even with minimal intellectual performance... [T]hose pupils who are in positions of leadership... often display unmannerly behavior and laziness at school. in general, it must be said that school discipline has declined to an alarming extent..." (429) School-to-Work link: "The new movement offer
[CTRL] Pundits Site
-Caveat Lector- This site contains viewpoints from some of the most prominent pundits in the nation. http://www.uexpress.com/ups/opinion/index.html">UExpress Online - Opinion Features DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NAFTA at 5 [140 footnotes]
-Caveat Lector- The foregoing report is formatted with your mind in mind at http://www.citizen.org/pctrade/nafta/reports/5years.htm Endnotes 1. See Public Citizen, The Border Betrayed (January 1996), Failure to Create U.S. Jobs (February 1997) and Fast Track to Unsafe Food (September 1997). 2. Poll Conducted by Peter D. Hart Research Associates, Inc. for the AFL-CIO, July 18-22, 1997. 3. Ibid. 4. Ibid. 5. 12/03/98-12/06/98 Wall Street Journal/NBC News Survey conducted. 2,106 adults. 6. Poll Conducted by Peter D. Hart Research Associates, Inc. for the AFL-CIO, July 18-22, 1997. 7. Ibid. 8. Department of Labor's study that states there is a 2 :1 chance of workers not finding a better job; "More Than 43 Million Jobs Lost, Reaching Every Walk of Life," New York Times, reprinted in National Times, December 1996. Since March 1998 198,000 manufacturing jobs have been lost. The service sector has been able to absorb the layoffs, but the displaced workers are usually paid less than they had been in the manufacturing sector. See, Louis Uchitelle, "The Economy Grows. The Smokestacks Shrink," New York Times, 11/ 29/98. 9. Bureau of Labor Statistics, 1996-1997 Jobs Outlook. 10. See Chicago Tribune, NAFTA at 5, Promises & Realities, November 29, 1998. 11. U.S. Census Bureau, http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/www/deficit.html 12. The latest trade balance data available are the October 1998 figures. Year-end projection have been calculated by Rob Scott of the Economic Policy Institute. The U.S. trade deficit with Mexico for October 1998 is $13.2 billion and with Canada is $15 billion. 13. International Trade Commission, Production Sharing: The Use of U.S. Components and Materials in Foreign Assembly Operations, April 1997. 14. Rothstein, Jesse and Rob Scott. "NAFTA's Casualties," September 19, 1997. 15. Department of Commerce, International Trade Administration data, 1993-1997. 16. U.S. Labor Department NAFTA-TAA data, as of November 19, 1998. 17. See, Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch, NAFTA's Broken Promises: Failure to Create U.S. Jobs, February 1997. 18. Dailey, Rickey. "NAFTA Gets Mixed Reviews," The Brownsville Herald, August 22, 1998. 19. "Border Counties Poorest in Nation," The Brownsville Herald, July 23, 1998. 20. New Mexico State University, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. 21. U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. 22. USDA, Number of Farms and Net Cash Income by Size Class, 1993, 1997; "The fast track myth," Agri News, July 16, 1998, letter to the editor by Steve Suppan. 23. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, consumer prices for food in general have risen slightly since 1993. For fruit and vegetables - much of which is imported under NAFTA, consumer prices have risen 7% in real terms since. 24. USDA, Number of Farms and Net Cash Income by Size Class, 1993 and 1997. 25. Export data from U.S. Aggregate Foreign Trade Data, U.S. Department of Commerce International Trade Administration. Canadian farm income data in Adrian Ewins, "Review Farm Policy Now, Demands Departing NFU Head," The Western Producer, 12/10/98. 26. Bureau of Labor Statistics, CPI data on Pork: 1993-1998 (first 11 months of 1998). Also see, Barboza, David. "Farmers Are in Crisis as Hog Prices Collapse," The New York Times, 12/13/98. 27. U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics, CPI data. 28. "Message Delivered Through Free Pork," The Western Producer, 12/10/98. 29. USDA, U.S. Total Agricultural Trade Balances with Individual Countries, 1991-97. 30. 50.U.S. International Trade Commission, "Impact of the North American Free Trade Agreement on the U.S. Economy and Industries: A Three Year Review," June 1997, pp. 6-65. 31. Florida Tomato Grower Association, interview with Wayne Hawkins. 32. Letter from Florida Tomato Exchange to Congressman Joe Scarborough, August 25, 1997. 33. Bureau of Labor Statistics, CPI data, 1993-1997. 34. "Brussels Sprouts Woes Increase," Wall Street Journal, 12/1/98. 35. USDA Foreign Agricultural Service, "US Agricultural Consumption Imports," January 1993 to December 1997. 36. Barboza, David, "Farmers Are in Crisis as Hog Prices Collapse." New York Times, 12/13/98. 37. October 8, 1998 Hearing in the House Agriculture Committee, "Agricultural Trade Issues with Canada." 38. Bureau of Labor Statistics, CPI data on Pork 1993-November 1998. Barboza, David. "Farmers Are in Crisis as Hog Prices Collapse," The New York Times, 12/13/98. 39. As of July 1998, the U.S. has 720 million bushels of wheat in carry-out stocks. See Paul Menser, "Trading Blame: Idaho Farmers are struggling to see how NAFTA benefits their bottom line," Post Register, 7/12/98. 40. Paul Menser, "Trading Blame: Idaho Farmers are struggling to see how NAFTA benefits their bottom line," Post Register, 7/12/98, quoting Mike Lipscomb of the Idaho Rural Council. 41. Clinton Administration, Report on Environmental Issues, November 1993, ES-8. 42. United States-Mexico Chamber of Commerce, "The
[CTRL] NAFTA at 5 Part 3
-Caveat Lector- Wage Levels in the U.S. and Mexico ... U.S. Workers Forced by NAFTA to Compete with Maquila Wages: Production workers in manufacturing in the U.S., where average hourly compensation is approximately $18.74/hour,(81) must, as a result of NAFTA, compete directly with maquila workers now located in new foreign-owned high-tech plants who are paid $1.51 per hour.(82) Wage Stagnation for U.S. Workers: In the 1990s we have witnessed a period of wage stagnation followed by anemic wage growth despite sustained and much-heralded economic expansion. Many economists attribute this wage stagnation to trade. For instance, William Kline of the pro-free trade Institute for International Economics, argues that economic integration - like that generated by NAFTA - has been responsible for 39% of the growth in wage inequality in the U.S.(83) NAFTA - The Ultimate Union-Buster: NAFTA makes it easier to suppress workers' wages and to discourage unionization with threats of job relocation. According to a study undertaken under NAFTA's labor side agreement, employers use the threat of relocation under NAFTA as leverage against the organizing efforts and salary demands of workers. Kate Bronfrenbrenner of the Cornell University School of Industrial Relations found that the percentage of U.S. companies following through on threats to close in response to union drives tripled under NAFTA. (84) Mexican Wages Plummet Since NAFTA: NAFTA was supposed to lift living standards in Mexico so that Mexican citizens could develop into a consumer society, thus creating a relationship between two mature trading partners. Yet the earnings of Mexicans have declined precipitously since NAFTA's enactment: In 1997, 7,771,607 Mexicans were documented as earning less than Mexico's legal minimum wage of $3.40 a day, 20% more than in 1993.(85) Among Mexico's working class, salaries at the end of 1997 had fallen to 60% of their 1994 value.(86) Mexican Maquila Workers Not Paid a Living Wage: In the maquila zones, a basic market basket comprised of food, gas, rent, electricity, transportation, water and refrigerator costs totaled $54.00 per week in 1998. The average net weekly pay for maquila workers is $55.77. This leaves $1.77 per week to spend on child education expenses, clothing, medical attention and other necessities (to say nothing of the occasional "luxury" like a ticket to the movies).(87) Mexican Wages Are Falling Relative to U.S. Wages: Sixety-Seven percent of Americans think that trade agreements negotiated by the U.S. should include provisions desgined to insure that the wages of our trading partners gradually rise to the level of the U.S. minimum.(88) Yet precisely the opposite is occurring under NAFTA. According to the U.S. Department of Labor, hourly wages of Mexican manufacturing sector workers comprise only 9.6% of the wages earned by U.S. manufacturing workers, down from 22% in 1980.(89) Not Everyone Can be a Computer Programmer: Under NAFTA, textile workers in depressed border towns such as El Paso are forced to compete with Mexican workers who are paid the same amount per day as Americans receive per hour - about $5.15.(90) Given high regional unemployment rates and low education levels, there simply are not jobs to fill the void of the exported U.S. textile jobs. NAFTA's 5th Year Casualties: The Disappearance of American Icons In 1998: Huffy Bicycles closed the world's largest bicycle plant, in Celina, Ohio - laying off 650 workers and shifting production to Mexico. Bass Shoes shifted production to Mexico after being located in Maine for 122 years, laying off 350. Thomson Consumer Electronics, successor to RCA-Victor, moved what was once the world's largest TV factory located in Bloomington, Indiana - the self-proclaimed "Color Television Capital of the World" - to Mexico, laying off 1,200 workers. The Indiana Department of Workforce Development has tracked the Thomson workers: Only 8% found jobs that match or better their old pay. The rest are either working for less, are unemployed, or have left the work force. Workers at Thomson's plant in Ciudad Juarez earn typically meager maquiladora wages and have little hope of better earnings in the future: management has announced that it won't raise wages as a matter of principle - even though the plant has vacancies and high turnover. Their stated reason? Raises increase the cost of business.(91) Economic Development and Living Standards in Mexico . NAFTA was supposed to be a win-win proposition, providing hope, economic development and a better life for Mexicans as well as Americans. NAFTA was to make Mexico, in economic and social terms, more like the United States - a more prosperous society with a middle-class. In order to enter into NAFTA, the Mexican government had to make extensive changes to its Constitution. These changes included amending Article XVII -
[CTRL] NAFTA at 5 Part 2
-Caveat Lector- The Environment ... When NAFTA was being debated in 1993, concerns were raised that additional industrial activity generated by NAFTA would exacerbate pre-existing environmental and public health problems caused by a high concentration of export manufacturing plants in the free trade zone along the U.S.-Mexico border. The Clinton Administration echoed these concerns, agreeing that the "maquiladora" sector posed a grave risk to border ecology and public health. The Administration promised that NAFTA would relieve pressure on the border region by extending trade benefits to Mexico's interior, thus reducing the incentive for U.S. industrial firms to locate along the border. Indeed, the Administration went so far as to claim that without NAFTA, the growth of the maquiladora sector would cause an environmentally devastating spiral of industrial and population growth and resulting air and water pollution.(41) Yet rather than reversing, this trend has accelerated. During NAFTA's first five years the maquiladora zone along the U.S.-Mexico border has undergone explosive growth, compounding pre-existing environmental and health problems. The latest count puts the number of border maquiladoras at 1,947, 37% more than in 1993.(42) In Tijuana alone, maquiladora employment has skyrocketed by 92%.(43) Worse, the promised clean-ups and new environmental infrastructure never materialized. And NAFTA has been wielded as a weapon to attack federal and subfederal environmental and public health safeguards, with a series of legal challenges to countries' environmental laws launched by corporations using NAFTA's investment provisions (Chapter 11). Corporations Use NAFTA to Attack Environmental Laws: Of the seven known challenges using NAFTA's investor right-to-sue-governments provisions, six involve U.S. corporations attacking federal- or state-level environmental measures in Canada and Mexico.(44) In three cases, the U.S.-based companies are suing Mexico for the right to open hazardous waste disposal facilities.(45) The other three cases involve U.S.-based corporations suing Canada claiming environmental laws are "regulatory takings" against which NAFTA created new investor rights. These include a British Columbia ban on the export - by tanker - of water to the United States; a federal public health ban on the import of a toxic gasoline additive; and a federal rule temporarily banning the export of PCBs for disposal.(46) The best known of these is the Ethyl Corporation's successful 1997 claim against Canada, which forced the Canadian government to kill a major public health law. For a discussion of the Ethyl case, see page . Hazardous Waste Transports Up Under NAFTA: Hazardous waste imports into the United States in 1997 (the latest year for which data is available) are higher than in 1993 - or than any time in the 1990s - and have increased 50% since 1996 alone.(47) EPA attributes this increase in hazardous waste trade to the increase in maquiladoras under NAFTA; hazardous waste imports into the U.S. are expected to continue to rise as the number of maquiladoras grows.(48) This increase heightens the risks of contamination due to spills during transport. Indeed, Mexican trucks are almost twice as likely as U.S. trucks to be forced out of service for failing inspections.(49) Toxic Dumping Remains a Big Problem: Despite the increase in the transport of hazardous waste across the border, five years after NAFTA much maquiladora waste is still unaccounted for.(50) The problem of illegal dumping of hazardous waste along the U.S.-Mexico border is well-documented; among the total 2,900 Mexican maquiladoras, only 751 compliance manifests on the proper disposal of hazardous waste have been filed since 1991.(51) After NAFTA, Lack of Promised Clean-Up: More than four years after its closure, 6,000 metric tons of lead remain at the Metales y Derivados site in Tijuana, Mexico.(52) The plant, owned by the San Diego-based New Frontier Trading Corp., operated a smelter. It was shut down four years ago. Despite the risk to local residents and efforts of local environmental groups, the Mexican government has failed even to begin clean-up.(53) Surge in Industrial Activity in Tijuana Leads to $250 Million Mess South Bay International Wastewater Treatment Plant Will Dump 25 Million Gallons of Waste Daily a Few Miles off Pacific Coast Starting in early 1999, each day 25 million gallons of "treated," but still toxic Mexican sewage will be discharged off of Imperial Beach, California.(54) An International Wastewater Treatment Plant, being constructed on the U.S. side of the border for a cost of $250 million, will treat sewage from Tijuana. The city has undergone a 92% explosion in maquiladora employment under NAFTA,(55) but did not have infrastructure to treat the pre-boom waste water.(56) With "treated" sewage dumped into 100 ft. deep water only a few miles
[CTRL] NAFTA at 5 Part 1
-Caveat Lector- School of Real-Life Results Report Card December 1998 Student: North American Free Trade Agreement Grading Period: January 1, 1994 to January 1, 1999 Individual Subjects: Grade: U.S. Job Creation and Job Quality F Agriculture F The Environment F Public Health F Wage Levels in the U.S. and Mexico F Economic Development and Living Standards in Mexico F Sovereignty and Democratic Governance F Highway Safety, Drug Enforcement and Smuggling F Labor and Environmental Side Agreements and Training ProgramsF ÿ Comments: NAFTA's proponents promised benefits for the U.S., Canada and Mexico. The promises - 200,000 new U.S. jobs from NAFTA per year, higher wages in Mexico and a growing U.S. trade surplus with Mexico, environmental clean-up and improved health along the border - have all failed to materialize. However, as this report illustrates, after five years, NAFTA fails to pass the most conservative test of all: a simple do-no-harm test. Under NAFTA, conditions have deteriorated in many areas in which gains were promised. In each subject NAFTA's grade is a failing one - data and examples are provided to explain why. NAFTA at 5 January 1, 1999 is the fifth anniversary of the implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement: NAFTA now has an extensive real life record. Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch conducted a detailed review of that track record, assessing the results of NAFTA in several crucial areas. This Report Card - reflecting the results of our review - grades NAFTA on the major issues. Impact on Job Creation and Job Quality in the U.S. Impact on Agriculture Impact on the Environment Impact on Public Health Impact on Wages in the U.S. and Mexico Impact on Economic Development and Living Standards in Mexico Impact on Democratic Governance and Sovereignty Impact on Highway Safety, Drug Enforcement and Smuggling The Performance of NAFTA's Trade Adjustment Assistance Program The Performance of NAFTA's Labor and Environmental Side Agreements NAFTA's proponents promised the pact would create new benefits and gains in each of these areas. The promised benefits - 200,000 new U.S. jobs from NAFTA per year, higher wages in Mexico and a growing U.S. trade surplus with Mexico, environmental clean-up and improved health along the border - have to a one failed to materialize.(1) However, as this report illustrates, after five years, NAFTA fails to pass the most conservative test of all: a simple do-no-harm test. Under NAFTA, conditions have not only have not improved, they have deteriorated in many areas. As a result, on each of the issues examined, the only fair grade for NAFTA is a failing one - hard data and real-life examples tell the story. The American Public Also Grades NAFTA a Failure Recent opinion polls show that the majority of Americans are aware of NAFTA's poor performance. Asked for their views, everyday citizens give NAFTA "F's" for benefitting the public interest and "A's" for boosting big corporations. 66% of Americans believe that free trade agreements between the U.S. and other countries cost the U.S. jobs(2) 66% of Americans believe that NAFTA has helped large corporations(3) 27% of Americans believe that NAFTA has helped small business in the U.S.(4) 58% of Americans agree that foreign trade has been bad for the U.S. economy because cheap imports have cost wages and jobs here(5) 81% of Americans say that Congress should not accept trade agreements that give other countries the power to overturn U.S. laws on consumer safety, labor or the environment(6) For the first time ever, Americans say the U.S. trade deficit is the most important economic issue facing the country, above taxes, the federal budget deficit, and inflation. In 1993, only 7% of Americans thought the trade deficit was the most important economic issue facing the country, trailing unemployment, the federal deficit and taxes.(7) ÿ U.S. Job Creation and Job Quality ... On the issue of U.S. job creation, the central focus of pro-NAFTA compaigning, it is fair to measure NAFTA's real-life results against its backers' expansive promises of hundreds of thousands of new, high-paying U.S. jobs. However, even measured against the more lenient "do no harm" standard, NAFTA has been a failure. Using trade flow data to calculate job loss under NAFTA (incorporating exactly the formula used by NAFTA's backers to predict 200,000 per year NAFTA job creation) yields net job destruction numbers in the hundreds of thousands. Whether the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs qualifies as "a giant sucking sound" depends on the ear of the listener. It is clear, however, that NAFTA has indisputably led to widespread job loss, with over 200,000 U.S. workers certified as NAFTA casu
Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt on C-SPAN tonight.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 6:25:51 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I think we've already been through this--with millions and millions of > dollars of Scaiffe money--not to mention 40 million dollars of taxpayer money. > All these millions have been directed at digging up dirt on Clinton. While more and >more American children If Scaiffe money is a big concern, then surely you share the same concern about liberal publishers and writers who write articles which suposedly "attack Republicans and conservatives." Likewise I am sure it bothered you when Lawrence Walsh spent 47 plus million dollars investigating Ronald Reaganand in his final report he concluded that Reagan did not lie under oath. We must not forget about the Democrats spending 20 plus million investigating the alleged Reagan/Casey Oct 1980 surprise. That was when Speaker of the House Tip O Neal said 'the fact that the accusation has been made justifys the investigation..and any amount of money spent during said investigation.' The results of that was that the Democrats concluded nothing happened. Thats just to name but 2 of many. The truth simply is that when a Democratic President is being investigated, the Democrats and liberals howl. When a Republican President is being investigated the Republicans and conservatives howl. For all you Democrats and Liberals who truly *believe* that money spent on investigating the wrong doing of a President should be spent on other things, I would expect that you will be the first ones to say the same thing when the Democrats are investigating a Republican President down the road some day. Don't be two faced about it either even though the President may not be "your guy." > are growing up in povertyand more and more working American families > have no health care. Just like the good ol' 50s, except now it takes two or three > working adults to provide a non-living wage. President Clinton tells us that this is the GREATEST peace time economy in the history of America, how people are working making real money for a change, how unemployment is down and on and on. If you believe what your President is telling you, then there are no problems. Of course he is the same guy that waved his finger in the press conference in january of 1999 and said 'I did not have sex..with that woman..Monica Lewinsky.' So I can understand why you may be reluctant to believe that the United States is better off then its ever been in 50 years. I would point out one thing about health care and all the so called good times of long ago. I had many family members and people I knew who worked in the 40s through now who have told me there was no private health care benifits to speak of until the 70s. According to them, when you got sick and didn't come to work, you didn't get paid. If you had to have surgery, and were off 2 weeks you didn't get paid. One person worked for the Union Pacific railroad as a conductor and as everybody knows Union UP health benifits are some of the best in the business. He told me that it wasn't until the 70s before he got health insurance, sick leave and such...and that was a union job. He was one of many who told me when you got sick and didn't go to work, you didn't get paid. Apparently it came about because employers were dangling benifits as a method of keeping skilled workers. Well low and behold many other companys got on the band wagon and now everybody expects health insurance and all the other things. Sadly we are going back to the "good old days" of the 40s-70s where employers did not pay for health care and other benifits. > I'm getting concerned that this list is leaning so heavily to the right. And > I hear that David Duke--the Grand Old Wizard--will be running for Congress, I would point out that under the Democratic/liberal definition of morality David Duke would be considered a moral man as long as he was true to political issues. Did you see the news report about the 47 Democrats who were card carrying members of the alleged white supremist group that the liberals excoriated Trent Lott about? Interestingly no liberals/Democrats have stepped forward to denounce those 47. Cheers, Robert Cheers, Robert DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===
