[CTRL] Sex for Qualified Adults Only
-Caveat Lector- Group Home in Pornography Battle By VICTORIA BRETT .c The Associated Press LEWISTON, Maine (AP) -- Marie likes to color, watch cartoons and play with animals. She uses pens scented with watermelon and blueberry, and hugs and squeezes her five cats. The 29-year-old woman is clearly not interested in sex. But sex is the reason she may have to find a new home. The Department of Human Services plans to pull the license for the Jaricot Foster Home for mentally retarded adults unless Monique Dostie, who runs it, lifts her rules forbidding pornography and sexual activity. Ms. Dostie is unrepentant in trying to shield her residents from ``perversion.'' ``I teach them that it's wrong, that they don't need that (sex) to survive,'' said Ms. Dostie, a devout Roman Catholic who lives in the home. ``I teach them their faith and bring God into their lives.'' The case may ultimately be decided in the courts if she fails in her appeal to the state to keep her license. State rules say people with mental retardation and autism in group homes have a right to participate in activities of choice, which include using pornographic material and sexual acts such as masturbation and consensual sex. None of Ms. Dostie's three residents is complaining. In fact, some of their guardians chose the home because of its policies. Nancy Nicholson of Coos Bay, Ore., said she would place her mentally retarded 24-year-old daughter in a sex-free environment if she could find one. ``The problem is you are dealing with a group of individuals who have a chronological age of an adult, but the maturation of a 3- to 5-year-old. We would recognize that a 3- to 5-year-old is not capable of sex,'' she said. ``We would call it pedophilia.'' Ms. Dostie said the developmentally disabled can't handle decisions of daily living, never mind the complex atmosphere of sexual relations. Joni Fritz, executive director of the American Network of Community Options and Resources, which represents group homes, said Ms. Dostie is denying human sexuality by forbidding sex or masturbation. ``For years, people who lived in institutions were told that they couldn't have sex and they were prohibited from masturbating. They would find ways to gratify themselves,'' Fritz said. ``Sometimes prohibition of that kind of thing has led to an increase in deviate behavior.'' Curt Decker, executive director of the National Association of Protection and Advocacy Systems for people with disabilities in Washington, said with fewer people institutionalized nationwide, it is important to make sure the biases of group home providers don't overtake individual choices. ``This is not taking care of children. This is taking care of adults who have some cognitive deficiencies but who have a lot of abilities,'' Decker said. James Bendell, who is representing Ms. Dostie on behalf of the American Catholic Lawyers Association, says the state believes every group home must be the same, and makes no exceptions. He said such a ``cookie cutter approach'' is not in the best interest of all group home residents. Ms. Dostie said her residents could be placed in another home. ``But they don't want to,'' she said. ``They're not the ones asking for sex or pornography. It's the state that's mandating it.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Y2K + Most Violent Sunspot Cycle Ever
-Caveat Lector- Seems like, one way or t'other, come the Millennium, "System Down." Sun's Weather May Add to Y2K Woes By PAUL RECER .c The Associated Press CHICAGO (AP) -- Computer date confusion about the Year 2000 is not the only problem Earth's technology is going to face when the new year rolls in. Astronomers say they're also worried about an angry sun. In January, just as computers around the world are coping with the Y2K bug, the sun will enter the most violent and disruptive phase of its 11-year cycle. Massive bursts of energy from the sun could mean celebrating the new millennium in the dark, with dead cellular phones. Ships and planes relying on satellites for navigation might have to haul out old-fashioned maps. Even spacewalking astronauts could be at risk, according to reports Monday at the national meeting of the American Astronomical Society. Researchers, using new techniques, are forecasting the sun's cycle to peak during the months of January to April. The sun is expected to be busy with solar flares and coronal mass ejections -- solar explosions that can equal a million 100 megaton hydrogen bombs. Waves of solar energy can trigger power blackouts, block some radio communications and create phantom commands capable of sending satellites spinning out of their proper orbits. There were two pieces of good news: The solar cycle is not expected to be as severe as some in the past, and, for the first time, there may be some warning, thanks to a government satellite that will detect bursts of solar energy and send about an hour's notice, said JoAnn Joselyn of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. That warning, posted on the Internet and relayed through a special system, will give power companies time to align circuits to minimize or avoid damage from electrical surges, she said. Satellite operators can power down equipment or prepare to send corrective signals to their spacecraft. Scientists have plotted 23 solar cycles, using historic and modern measurements. But the current cycle may be the most disruptive ever because much of the vulnerable communications technology now in use is new and has not been exposed to maximum solar activity, Joselyn said. ``The explosion in technology is intersecting with an extremely disturbed space environment,'' Joselyn said. ``There is much higher risk now because we depend more on technology that is vulnerable.'' Joselyn said energy bursts from the sun can cause an electrical charge to build up on the surface of satellites, triggering phantom signals. In an earlier solar cycle, she said, small rocket thrusters on a satellite suddenly started firing, sending the spacecraft out of position. Control of another satellite was lost when its gyroscopes were disrupted. Joselyn said cellular telephones may be vulnerable because they can use the ionosphere -- the region of electrically charged gases in the upper atmosphere -- to send radio signals, and bursts from the sun can disturb the ionosphere. Some cellular phone systems depend on satellites that are at risk too. Solar energy eruptions can cause warm air to surge up from the Earth. That can drag some satellites to lower orbits, forcing satellite operators to use rocket fuel to reposition the spacecraft. Worldwide navigation, for ships and airplanes, relies heavily on the Global Positioning Satellite system, which uses a fleet of satellites that can be affected by the sun, Joselyn said. ``I am worried about the GPS more than anything else,'' she said. ``We're starting to land airplanes with that system now.'' Electromagnetic energy from the sun can send huge waves of electrical energy surging along power lines, shorting circuits and burning out equipment. A 1989 solar storm caused a province-wide blackout in Quebec, and coils in a transformer station in Salem, N.J., melted and caught fire, causing a regional outage. Astronauts generally are safe inside the space shuttle or the International Space Station, but future missions to the moon or Mars will have to guard to solar radiation bursts. ``On the moon, they could get enough radiation to be lethal,'' said Joselyn. ``If we fly to Mars, we'll have to consider the hazardous radiation from the sun.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives
[CTRL] N. Korea: Western Capitalism a 'Trojan Horse
-Caveat Lector- N. Korea Warns Against Capitalism .c The Associated Press SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- North Korea warned its people today against the ``Trojan horse'' of capitalism, ruling out any economic or political reform in efforts to rebuild the communist nation's tattered economy. The official North Korean Central News Agency carried an article attributing the collapse of the Soviet empire to its acceptance of ``non-socialist elements'' -- greater economic and political openness. '' `Glasnost' and `pluralism' called for by imperialists and renegades of socialism should never be allowed,'' the article said. ``Not the slightest illusion should be harbored about ... `reform' and `opening' that invite imperialism.'' The article had been jointly published earlier by the daily Rodong Sinmun and the magazine Kulloja, or Laborer, both main publications of the ruling Workers' Party of Korea. It described Western calls for North Korea to open its closed society as an attempt to send in a ``Trojan Horse tasked to destabilize socialism.'' Instead, it urged the government to redouble ideological education of the public. North Korea, a reclusive state proud of its ideology of juche, or self-reliance, turned to outside aid to feed its 23 million people after five years of disastrous weather devastated its already inefficient collective farming system. The United States and its Western allies are proposing that North Korea abandon its nuclear and missile development programs in exchange for expanded economic aid. William Perry, a special envoy of President Clinton, delivered that message when he visited North Korea last week. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Spookiest of the Spooks
forwarded from the forteana list, source unknown... Subj:The Spookiest of the Spooks Date: 6/1/99 2:25:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry W. Colvin) By Jim Beetel Remember James Jesus Angleton, the paranoid CIA counterintelligence officer who, when he wasnt single-handedly terrorizing the Agencys Directorate of Operations during the 1950s and 60s, was writing and publishing eccentric poetry? And how about the military intelligence officer at Pentagon who, prior to being discreetly retired a few years back, was producing and selling his own pornographic videos on the side? More to the point, what about the founding father of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, J. Edgar Hoover, who allegedly spent many an evening (presumably during non-work hours) secretly parading around various Washington DC hotel rooms in drag? Scattered throughout the US Intelligence Community in Washington DC today are numerous intelligence officials, possessing the highest security clearances and enjoying access to the most sensitive US Government secrets, who are notorious for their highly unorthodox personal opinions and/or behavior. These various Intelligence Community oddballs constitute what is nowadays referred to by Washingtonians in the know as the Intelligence Underground. As such, these unique men and women are maintaining a tradition as old as Americas Intelligence Community itself. For example, theres the famed CIA ufologist, Ron P. who, in addition to his official duties as an analyst for the Agency, is known throughout the Intelligence Community for his obsession with UFOs. This obsession sometimes gets him in trouble. Witness an incident several years ago in which a civilian UFO researcher telephoned Ron P. at CIA and asked him what he knew about an alleged and no doubt mythical secret Government project concerning extraterrestrial life. Reportedly Ron P. replied "Who cleared you for that project?" and then hung up, a prank that allegedly garnered the considerable ire of CIA management when it was subsequently reported in UFO journals around the world. And by the way, I happen to know for a fact that Ron P.s duties at CIA have absolutely nothing to do with the study of extraterrestrial intelligence (no matter how you define that term). I once dropped by Rons office at CIA Headquarters to meet the legend; although Ron wasnt in at the time I did notice much interesting UFO paraphernalia in his office (including a battery-operated toy flying saucer). Another notorious Intelligence Underground weirdo (or should I say weirdette) cannot be referred to in this article even by her initials, so controversial is her particular idiosyncrasy. This woman (who, like Ron P., by sheer chance just happens to work at CIA) is a regular in the shadowy world of Washingtons BDSM (Bondage and Discipline/Sado- Masochism) scene. According to reliable sources her orientation is that of femdom (i.e., a keeper of male sex slaves presumably the males are consenting). I once crept stealthily up to her cubicle at the CIA building where she works and, so as not to be caught (and possibly disciplined) by the dominatrix, carefully and silently peered over the wall. There she was, busily typing away at her computer, defending our National Security with precisely the sort of rigorous zeal one would expect from a woman who delights in the erotic torture of male genitalia. And incidentally, fellows, shes attractive! Finally, lest the reader conclude that Im picking on the folks at Langley, let me mention here and now that famous FBI Special Agent who prefers to be addressed (during non-working hours) by the modest nickname Jesus Jr. It seems that Jesus Jr. (whom I first met at an interagency conference on terrorism around 1995) is utterly convinced that he is none other than the son of Jesus Christ. The public may be pleased to learn that the son of the Messiah, when he isnt investigating possible federal crimes against America, is undertaking at no expense to taxpayers one of his clandestine healing sessions at which he provides miraculous cures for maladies ranging from full-blown AIDS to spiritual depression (more typically the latter). And yes, let me state for the record that I have actually accompanied (at his invitation) Jesus Jr. on one of his secret healing sessions. There I personally witnessed this man, who has obviously been touched by God, lay hands on many people (most of them poor and relatively uneducated), several of whom experienced no doubt medically inexplicable recoveries from everything from drug addiction to "a bad attitude toward the Lord" (I dont know how to verify that the drug addicts were actually healed; I guess Ill just have to take their word for it). Given that most of these (and other) eccentric practices are apparently known, to one degree or another, by the security offices of the various agencies for which members of the Intelligence
[CTRL] Sudan Oil Pipeline
-Caveat Lector- "President Omar el-Bashir of Sudan spoke of outfoxing U.S. interests." Sudan Inaugurates Oil Pipeline By SUSAN SEVAREID .c The Associated Press HEGLIG, Sudan (AP) -- Sudan's president danced and workers cheered at today's inauguration of a 1,000-mile pipeline that will allow this impoverished nation to exploit vast oil reserves long untapped because of war and politics. The $3 billion investment in pipeline and refineries is expected to yield 150,000 barrels of oil per day by the end of September, quickly increasing to at least 250,000 barrels per day. Recoverable reserves in this isolated semi-desert area 435 miles southwest of the capital, Khartoum, are estimated at 627 million barrels. The pipeline stretches from the Heglig-area oil fields in western Kordofan province to the port city of Bashaier on the Red Sea. ``It is not Saudi, but it is the first sizable deposit in what may be a large hydrocarbon province,'' said Jim Buckee, chief executive officer of Talisman Energy Inc., based in Calgary, Canada. The fields were discovered in 1982 by U.S.-based Chevron Corp., but the company did not develop them and cited security reasons for eventually dumping the project. In 1983, the largely Christian and animist south rebelled against the Islamic northern government in a civil war that has claimed 1.9 million lives. Talisman has invested $400 million in the pipeline, and Buckee said the company is satisfied with government security. President Omar el-Bashir, addressing 3,000 workers, villagers and dignitaries from Khartoum, spoke of outfoxing U.S. interests in Sudan by finally nearing completion on the oil project. ``The oil was always here, but ... it was in the hands of the American company -- and the Americans said `We do not need this oil at this time,''' he said. When told to dig it out ``for the benefit of the Sudanese people or we are bidding farewell,'' the Americans left, he said. Bashir thanked the foreign oil companies investing in the project, including Chinese and Malaysian firms. Energy Minister Awad al-Jazz said it will likely take about four years for Sudan to begin making money off the oil, given the high start-up expenses. However, his production estimates -- at an initial 180,000 to 200,000 barrels per day -- run slightly higher than those of the oil consortium. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israeli: U.S. Meddled in Election
-Caveat Lector- Israeli: U.S. Meddled in Election By DAFNA LINZER .c The Associated Press JERUSALEM (AP) -- The Clinton administration worked against outgoing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during his reelection bid in an effort to aid his downfall, a senior Netanyahu adviser said today. David Bar-Illan, who served as Netanyahu's communications director, said the State Department ran its own campaign of disinformation against the premier while the White House encouraged financial contributions to Netanyahu's main opponent -- and eventual successor -- Ehud Barak. Michael Hammer, a spokesman for Clinton's National Security Council said Monday that ``the Clinton administration in no way became involved in the internal politics of the Israeli election.'' Netanyahu, a hard-liner who slowed down the peace process with the Palestinians after his 1996 election, had a rocky relationship with the United States which wanted to see the process advanced quickly. In an article written for the June 14 issue of the National Review magazine, Bar-Illan wrote that the Clinton administration ran an ``unremitting, smoothly orchestrated campaign aimed at causing Netanyahu's defeat at the polls.'' ``Instead of an outright endorsement of Barak, the administration preferred active measures to discredit Netanyahu. In the four months preceding the election, hardly a day passed without a Washington story about Netanyahu failing to keep his word.'' While several officials privately backed Netanyahu's demands for reciprocity with the Palestinians, Bar-Illan said, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright insisted that Netanyahu was holding up peace. ``Thus was the anti-Israel tilt complete,'' Bar-Illan wrote. Bar-Illan told The Associated Press that the White House encouraged contributors to the Democratic Party to make donations to Barak's campaign. He cited a New York Times story which quoted James Carville, campaign strategist for both Barak and President Clinton, as saying that he regularly briefed Clinton on the progress of Barak's campaign. Clinton was widely seen by Israelis as supporting Barak's predecessor, Shimon Peres, who narrowly lost to Netanyahu. The administration was largely silent during the latest campaign and repeatedly said it was not taking sides. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Journalists Tour Site of Collateral Damage
-Caveat Lector- "The 'munitions storage facility' NATO said it was targeting is about two miles away from the town of 15,000 people. "Two missiles hit the main building of the Special Hospital for Tuberculosis and Pulmonary Diseases. Two other missiles struck a retirement home within the complex, where 35 elderly people were living. "The attack was not the first time [the town] was hit by NATO jets. On April 27, missiles struck a residential neighborhood, killing at least 15 people. In that case, NATO said a missile apparently went astray because smoke interfered with the guidance system." Journalists Tour NATO Bomb Site By CANDICE HUGHES .c The Associated Press SURDULICA, Yugoslavia (AP) -- The stench of blood. A hand protruding through the rubble. Branches of pine trees sheared off by bomb fragments. Testimony to what Yugoslav authorities say was another NATO attack gone awry. Yugoslav officials say at least 16 people were killed today when four NATO missiles slammed into a hospital and retirement complex on the outskirts of Surdulica, 220 miles southeast of Belgrade. Between four and 10 other people are believed buried in the rubble, according to Commander Bratislav Ristic of the local civil defense office. Forty-three people were injured, five of them critically, according to Dr. Slavoljub Cvetkovic. In Brussels, NATO spokesman Col. Konrad Freytag said NATO jets struck a ``military barracks and an ammunition storage area'' in Surdulica before dawn. ``All munitions hit the planned aiming points,'' Freytag said, adding that he could not confirm any Serb claims of casualties. The munitions storage facility NATO said it was targeting is about two miles away from the town of 15,000 people. Yugoslav authorities, who brought Western journalists to the site, said two missiles hit the main building of the Special Hospital for Tuberculosis and Pulmonary Diseases, built in 1924 in a pine forest on the edge of town as a tuberculosis sanitarium. Two other missiles struck a retirement home within the complex, where 35 elderly people were living. The explosions crushed a wing of the hospital, stripping off the tops of towering pine trees and scorching them. At mid-afternoon, bulldozers and rescue teams were still searching the ruins. A human hand was visible, protruding from the rubble. Eleven bodies covered in white sheets lay outside the hospital. In front of the retirement home, four more bodies of old women lay covered on stretchers. Rooms were demolished. Shattered glass and wood blasted from the trees were strewn about the hospital. Survivors spoke of hearing four detonations in rapid succession between 12:15 a.m. and 12:30 a.m., shortly after they heard the roar of aircraft overhead. Mica Pjevac, an elderly Serb who fled Croatia during fighting there in 1995, said she was in bed when she heard a plane pass over and then come back. Then she heard an explosion. ``From the wall, the ceiling, everything fell on me,'' she said. ``One hour, maybe more, I was trapped -- I thought it was over, over. I thought it was the end of my life.'' Civil defense workers rescued her and took her to the medical center in town, where she was hospitalized with multiple fractures of her right hand as well as cuts and abrasions. Momcilo Bogdanovic, a former construction worker, was among the first on the scene. He said the first thing that struck him was ``the filthy smell of bombs and human blood.'' ``There was screaming of people under the concrete and those trying to pull them out, it was terrible,'' he said. The attack was not the first time Surdulica was hit by NATO jets. On April 27, missiles struck a residential neighborhood near an abandoned military barracks, killing at least 15 people. In that case, NATO said a missile apparently went astray because smoke interfered with the guidance system. ``You get the impression that this is a doomed place,'' said Dusan Ratkovic, a 45-year-old English teacher. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
[CTRL] NATO Fallout over Hungary
-Caveat Lector- Another neighbor gets bombarded by "accident" -- Rumania, Italy, Greece ... Unexploded Rockets Fall on Hungary BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) -- Two unexploded rockets from NATO attack planes fell on Hungarian villages in separate incidents Monday, the state news agency MTI reported. There were no injuries or serious damage. The rockets were found in Zalaujlak, 115 miles southwest of Budapest, and at a pig farm in Beremend, 150 miles south of Budapest, MTI said. NATO jets have used Hungarian airspace since beginning their air campaign against Yugoslavia on March 24. Last week, Marine F-18 attack jets based at Taszar in southern Hungary joined the airstrikes. A Marine spokesman at Taszar, Lt. Christian Devine, said an investigation into the report of fallen rockets was under way. He said F-18s are capable of landing with unused ammunition unless there is an emergency. On April 27, an unexploded rocket was found on the outskirts of Boeszenfa, 100 miles southwest of Budapest. It reportedly fell from a NATO jet returning from a mission. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Diplomatic Impunity
-Caveat Lector- Immunity Halts German Embassy Probe .c The Associated Press BERLIN (AP) -- Investigators are dropping a criminal probe into the deaths of four Kurdish protesters at the Israeli consulate in February because the security guards who shot have diplomatic immunity, authorities said Monday. ``Further investigation is no longer possible for legal reasons,'' a Justice Ministry statement said. ``The investigation will therefore be ended.'' The two Israeli guards who fired the shots enjoy diplomatic immunity, which could only be lifted by Israel. The statement said Israel was not expected to do that. Three Kurdish demonstrators were shot and killed when they tried to raid the Israeli consulate in Berlin on Feb. 17, following rumors that Israel's secret police had helped Turkey track down Kurdish rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan. Another Kurd died of his injuries three days later in a hospital. An Israeli investigation determined that the guards fired only in self-defense and from ``within the consulate'' at individual Kurds armed with clubs who had forced their way inside. Berlin prosecutors said in March that there were several unanswered questions, including whether shots were fired outside the consulate at protesters. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] China Going Hardline, Anti-US
-Caveat Lector- China Reassesses U.S. Relations By CHARLES HUTZLER .c The Associated Press BEIJING (AP) -- Amid the public furor over NATO bombs and U.S. allegations of aggressive Chinese spying, China is lurching toward a more confrontational stance to the United States. Conservatives in the ruling Communist Party and senior military commanders -- all traditionally suspicious of American intentions -- have seized on the anger to pressure centrist leaders to reassess China's U.S. policy, government sources and scholars taking part in the review said. The political infighting and genuine outrage over NATO's bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia three weeks ago have brought hard-line voices to the fore and limited the leadership's freedom to maneuver with Washington. In the worst anti-American din in 25 years, an air of inevitable conflict has seeped into the debate over Chinese-U.S. ties. ``China is being pushed into being the enemy. That's the U.S. strategy,'' said Gao Heng, a conservative scholar. ``China does not want to be the second Soviet Union.'' At risk in those deteriorating perceptions are many important issues for both sides -- from the promise of broad cooperation that presidents Jiang Zemin and Bill Clinton made last year to expanded trade and coaxing North Korea out of its belligerent isolation. After a U.S. congressional committee blamed lax security for allegedly allowing China to steal secrets to seven major U.S. nuclear weapons, Clinton said he remained committed to working with Beijing. In contrast, Jiang, in a speech broadcast nationwide, called the United States a global tyrant seeking to dominate the world. For now, Jiang and his reform-minded premier, Zhu Rongji, are waiting for Washington to meet demands over the embassy bombing in Belgrade that killed three Chinese reporters May 7. China wants an investigation and punishment of those responsible. It also wants NATO's airstrikes on Yugoslavia to stop. Short of that, China ``will have to seriously study'' its options, said Gao, an international strategy specialist at the government's Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. A variety of opinions, not all anti-American, are being voiced by the scholars and the policy-makers they advise in the review of U.S. policy, said Xin Bo, an international affairs expert at the Communist Party's leading training school. But the debate has latched onto a welter of complaints about recent U.S. behavior that many Chinese believe proves the United States wants to frustrate China's ambitions as an emerging power. Among the grievances are the embassy bombing, which is seen as an attempt to silence Beijing's opposition to the war; the renewed U.S. military alliance with Japan; talk of putting rival Taiwan under an anti-missile defense shield; and the refusal to let China into the World Trade Organization, despite the broad concessions Zhu offered in Washington. Then came the accusations in the report led by U.S. Rep. Christopher Cox that China bolstered its nuclear arsenal by stealing U.S. secrets over 20 years. ``The Cox report is even more important. It reflects what Americans feel about the Chinese people,'' said Xin. ``This is a type of insult. Americans regard the Chinese with a low opinion.'' Beijing has dismissed the report as a fabrication and a device to paint China as an enemy while Washington relentlessly pursues global dominance. ``The most important goal in U.S. global strategy is how to maintain its unmatched overlord status in the 21st century,'' the party newspaper People's Daily said Thursday. ``The United States is using political, economic, military, cultural and other means to expand globally and intensify plans to build a unipolar world.'' Next to the front-page commentary was a report about Chinese artillery forces using high technology to improve their capabilities. Reports about military strength have been prominently played in the entirely state-controlled media -- an indication of the armed forces stronger hand in policy-making. Given the atmosphere, Chinese government agencies have been reluctant to meet with U.S. diplomats. One leading think tank called off a long-planned academic symposium on East Asian security co-sponsored by the U.S. government. The tense atmosphere aside, Jiang and his colleagues say they remain committed to following the free-market reforms that have raised standards of living and made China a regional force. They know smooth relations with the United States, and the greater access to capital and technology it brings, aid that process. ``The two countries share too many important interests and the relationship must continue. Now the question is how to get over these current difficulties,'' said Jia Qingguo, an America expert at Peking University. ``Both sides should make efforts. But the burden is on the United States.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting
[CTRL] Fwd: Death List
After reading the above subject matter, and assume it to be true - in particular the death of this Barbara Wise, I find it impossible to believe that William Jefferson Clinton is anything other than another Lee Harvey Oswald - is this guy for real. He cannot get even a security clearance because of his previoius activities; he now murders the elderly and children in the Balkans, in the name of humanity - not being satisfied with sending in his butcher Janet Reno to murder over 100 innocents at WACO But this list, can only be compare to the witness list after the murder of JFK. What is this Bill Clinton and who is he really? Is he some brainwashed Manchurian Candidate who spaced out on cocaine was programmed into a vicious killer - like the kids at Littleton who gave him the sign of the devil - the Mojo, while alleged to be in deep mourning.are all these people some type of an insane, sick experiment - taking out their malice on the innocents? I can only compare Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold to William Clinton and Janet Reno, and toss in the butcher Albright too - for their acts and deeds reflect as a dark mirror - are they not similar acts of murder? Reno lashing out after consulting with the military, with flame thrower tanks and he men in blackbutchering over 100 innocents.Reno, an alleged Lesbian which is something we are to overlook - note what they kill, is soft and young Albright the Butcher of the Balkans - look at her victimsthey knew too much about her past which she tried to hide - the Serbs protected and sheltered Albright and her family putting their own lives in jeopardy, hiding them from the Nazisshe returns this kindness with sheer butcherycausing the mutililation and death of the innocents - babies and mothers in maternity wards - no wonder this woman's husband left that old bat. And last but not least the vicous Clinton - rapist sodomist - a fifty year old man again praying on the innocents, while his body bag count evidently grows with time, in particular, if you consider the innocents he has murdered in the Balkans.but this Barbara Wise.Clinton went home to get a book of poetry the day she was found murdered in her office at the Commerce Department - where Ron Brown had allegedly made it clear he would be nobody's Patsy. Clinton is a vicous, evil, sadistic manis that really his face we see or is it like the Masque of Red Death, the bags under his eyes from time to time indicating drug use - the recent surgery to his nose which leaves one to wonder - Michael Jackson's nose fell off from using so much junk to keep his voice pitched high, and from the plastic surgery.a peodophile and a rapist, and a sodomist, and in my opinion, each in their own way, murderers of innocents. There has never been a President that I disliked...but this President and his obviously sick egomaniac wife, got to go. The sooner, the better..treason is one thing, but how does one explain the murders leaving a Clinton trail by more than just association.' The assassins at Littleton are no different from the assassin Clintonthe assassin Reno, and the assassin Albrightthree bloody assassins, who without a doubt should be removed from their respective positions using every law on the books to get them. With Clinton we do not have a reflection of JFK; we have a reflection of Lee Harvey Oswaldstrange, he too spent some time in New Orleans and in Russia.did the real William Jefferson Clinton Blythe return, or did some brainwashed indiot return to take revenge upon the innocents, who knew something of his past. colleen http://www.ninehundred.net/~devvy/death_list.html
[CTRL] Jews and gun control, patterns of genocide
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a375187c92d5a.htm Jews and gun control, patterns of genocide and more... FOR DISCUSSION AND EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES Click links for more info + (research master)Selected Internet Sites on Gun Control http://www.uh.edu/~dbarclay/rm/websites.htm + Right2Arms http://www.wizard.net/~kc/firearms.html + Gun Rights: Advocacy and Commentary (mining company-numerous links) http://civilliberty.miningco.com/msubgadv.htm + A Grim History of Global Gun Control http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/hunter/guncont3.htm Here's a short gun control quiz: Who said the following sentence ? "An armed citizenry is as close to being immunized against genocide as seems possible." A) An Alberta Cabinet Minister. B) An American National Rifle Association Spokesman. C) A Reform party backbencher D) A Jewish civil rights association. Surprise! The answer is D. + Jews For the Preservation of Firearms Ownership--AN INTERVIEW http://www.netpath.net/~jeffr/jpfo.htm HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR DENOUNCES ANTI-GUN-OWNERSHIP MOVEMENT "IF ONLY WE WERE ARMED" Q. Did the camp inmates ever bring up the topic, "If only we were armed before, we would not be here now"? A. Many, many times. Before Adolf Hitler came to power, there was a black market in firearms, but the German people had been so conditioned to be law abiding, that they would never consider buying an unregistered gun. The German people really believed that only hoodlums own such guns. What fools we were. It truly frightens me to see how the government, media, and some police groups in America are pushing for the same mindset. In my opinion, the people of America had better start asking and demanding answers to some hard questions about firearms ownership, especially, if the government does not trust me to own firearms, why or how can the people be expected to trust the government? + Holocaust timeline http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/timeline.html + THE BILL OF RIGHTS THE AMERICAN JEWISH EXPERIENCE http://jpfo.org/jewexp.htm + Gun Control's Nazi Connection http://jpfo.org/GCA_68.htm + Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership http://www.jpfo.org/ + Jews and "Gun Control": Fear of Freedom or Freedom from Fear? http://jpfo.org/fear.htm + Jewish "leaders" who back "gun control" do not know Jewish Law and History + Jewish "leaders" who back "gun control" glory in victimhood + Jewish Law has always required self-defense against attackers + During 1,800 years of oppression, Jews developed a "ghetto"mindset + During 1,800 years of oppression, Jewish "leaders" trusted governments + During 1,800 years of oppression, governments repeatedly murdered Jews + Jewish "leaders" must shed the "ghetto" mindset, which glorifies victimhood + America's Founding Fathers have much to teach Jewish "leaders" about Freedom + Israeli Jews could teach America's Jewish "leaders" much about self-defense + Jewish "leaders" who focus on anti-Semitic hate groups miss the main threat + The main threat to Jews in America, as elsewhere, is a government "gone bad" + Jewish "leaders" who emphasize victimhood to unify Jews are misguided + Jewish "leaders" could strengthen Judaism by teaching proper observance GUN CONTROL AND PATTERNS OF GENOCIDE entire article at : http://www.bigeye.com/guns.htm Each major genocide of the 20th century has had its own unique history, says the JPFO in a new book called "Lethal Laws: 'Gun Control' is the Key to Genocide" by Jay Simkin, Aaron Zelman, and Alan M. Rice. But each genocide has been preceded by major gun-control legislation that facilitated the confiscation of weapons from the targeted victims. The most important thing we can do to prevent future genocides, say the authors, is to eliminate gun-control laws from the arsenal of government weapons against the rights of the people. Most gun-control laws are not specifically designed to facilitate genocide, although a couple of them in this century do seem to have been passed with that goal in mind. Several of the outlaw regimes that declared war against portions of their own populations used laws that had been passed by previous regimes, ostensibly in the interests of crime control, to pave the way for their murderous work. But genocides have followed patterns. They have usually happened in severely stressed societies, whose officials need scapegoats (often to deflect attention from their own mistakes or blunders). They have been planned by specific people -- often one specific individual can be pinpointed. The targets have been carefully
[CTRL] Semites expose dark Jewish secrets
-Caveat Lector- A "banned" Jewish-authored book is presented online by Ahmed Rami of "Radio Islam" : "Jewish History, Jewish Religion : The Weight of Three Thousand Years" by Professor Israel Shahak The complete edition is available at Radio Islam : http://abbc.com/islam/english/books/jewhis/jewhis1.htm yikes: Chapter 5 - The Laws Against Non-Jews : http://abbc.com/islam/english/books/jewhis/jewhis5.htm from the Introduction: -- snip From Jerusalem, Israel Shahak never ceases to analyse not only the dismal politics of Israel today but the Talmud itself, and the effect of the entire rabbinical tradition on a small state that the right-wing rabbinate means to turn into a theocracy for Jews only. I have been reading Shahak for years. He has a satirist's eye for the confusions to be found in any religion that tries to rationalise the irrational. He has a scholar's sharp eye for textual contradictions. He is a joy to read on the great Gentile-hating Dr Maimonides. Needless to say, Israel's authorities deplore Shahak. But there is not much to be done with a retired professor of chemistry who was born in Warsaw in 1933 and spent his childhood in the concetration camp at Belsen. In 1945, he came to Israel; served in the Israeli military; did not become a Marxist in the years when it was fashionable. He was -- and still is -- a humanist who detests imperialism whether in the names of the God of Abraham or of George Bush. Equally, he opposes with great wit and learning the totalitarian strain in Judaism. Like a highly learned Thomas Paine, Shahank illustrates the prospect before us, as well as the long history behind us, and thus he continues to reason, year after year. Those who heed him will certainly be wiser and -- dare I say? -- better. He is the latest, if not the last, of the great prophets. --Gore Vidal . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: (Fwd) Who Was Jim Jones?]
A NEW LOOK AT JONESTOWN --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:01:24 +0100 To:Para [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Para [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Who Was Jim Jones? Who Was Jim Jones? By Jason Jeffrey While the mainstream media, influenced by Cult Awareness Network propaganda, portray Jim Jones as an 'evil demagogue', a number of independent 'conspiratologists' view Jones as a conscious agent of the CIA. For these writers Jonestown was simply a CIA organised slave labor camp and the People's Temple just an elaborate facard hiding a bizarre intelligence agency experiment. Other researchers see Jim Jones as the victim of a U.S. government operation. His People's Temple fleeing to Guyana to escape intense U.S. government harassment. Early Years The People's Temple began in 1954 as the Community Unity Church, a multiracial Pentecostal-style congregation in Indianapolis, Indiana. The church was founded by a twenty-three-year-old white preacher, Jim Jones (1931-1978), who had made a name for himself in Pentecostal circles throughout the United States as a healer and prophet. By 1955, Jones's ministry had been renamed the People's Temple Full Gospel Church and was attracting large crowds for Sunday faith-healing services. Jones later insisted that the healing dramas of his early ministry were conducted mainly to draw people who could then be taught his more important messages of apostolic social justice and equality. The young preacher's efforts to promote interracial harmony were heralded by the Indianapolis Recorder, a weekly Black newspaper, and earned Jones the position of director of the Indianapolis Human Rights Commission in 1961. During the early 1960s the People's Temple set up soup kitchens, distributed free groceries and clothing, and organised other community programs. Jones was ordained as a minister in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in 1964. Religious scholar J. Gordon Melton points out that: "Jim Jones' Peoples' Temple, labeled a `cult' after the deaths in Jonestown, was in fact a congregation within mainline Christianity. It was a full member of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) which in turn is a member of the National Council of Churches. "Liberal Protestants heralded it for its social action program, and during the mid-1970s, several denominations such as the United Methodist Church devoted an entire adult church school lesson to extolling its virtues." In 1961 Jim Jones had a vision in which the American Midwest was destroyed in a nuclear war and moved his congregation to Ukiah, California, shortly thereafter. By 1969 Jim Jones opened a large complex called "Happy Acres" which contained a meeting hall, a swimming pool, a child care facility, and a senior citizen centre. Jim Jones's ministry, which now claimed to have twenty thousand members, expanded into Los Angeles and into the predominantly Black Filmore district of San Francisco in the 1970's. The spectacular growth of the People's Temple saw Jim Jones emerge as an outspoken, uncompromising foe of U.S. imperialism. Through evangelistic rallies and radio broadcasts Jones addressed literally hundreds of thousands of people in cities all over the United States. In simple, yet forceful language, Jim Jones exposed the smug corruption, the blatant hypocrisy, the abuses, disgraces, and contradictions of American capitalism. The vast congregation of People's Temple helped plan and attended en masse countless demonstrations in support of freedom movements, peace, and human rights causes around the world. The newspaper of the People's Temple People's Forum, which reached over half a million people, tackled the sacred icons of the U.S. Establishment provocatively asking: "The Rockefeller brothers - How they got their fortunes and increase them daily. Their influence over U.S. policy. How does Henry Kissinger, e.g., hop right over from being Secretary of State to become a Board member of the Chase Manhattan Bank? Jim Jones soon became the target of organised Establishment opposition. He was attacked and threatened. His family members, children, congregants were terrorised, beaten and spied on. Attempts were made to infiltrate the organisation with provocateurs. Peoples Temple was subjected to harassment, bogus investigations, yellow journalism, and torrents of malicious gossip and highly publicized lies. Addressing a rally in 1977, just prior to the exodus of People's Temple to the rural community in Guyana, Jim Jones, showing signs of the covert harassment and media attacks, declared "just remember there's nothing worse than putting someone in the corner when they have tried to do righteousness..." Jim Jones rallied his congregation with the vision that they were pilgrims on a quest for enlightenment and safety. In Guyana they would establish a community of their own - Jonestown - free from the harassment and persecution they faced in North America.
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- What a bunch of drivel... from: http://www.truthbeknown.com/christ.htm A HREF="http://www.truthbeknown.com/christ.htm"The Christ Conspiracy/A - The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold Coming in June '99 from Adventures Unlimited - The book version of The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ Now titled: In this highly controversial and explosive book, archaeologist, historian, mythologist and linguist Acharya S marshals an enormous amount of startling evidence to demonstrate that Christianity and the story of Jesus Christ were created by members of various secret societies, mystery schools and religions in order to unify the Roman Empire under one state religion. In making such a fabrication, this multinational cabal drew upon a multitude of myths and rituals that already existed long before the Christian era, and reworked them for centuries into the story and religion passed down today. Contrary to popular belief, there was no single man at the genesis of Christianity but many characters rolled into one, the majority of whom were personifications of the ubiquitous solar myth and whose exploits were well known, as reflected by such popular deities as Mithra, Heracles/Hercules, Dionysus and many others throughout the Roman Empire and beyond. The story of Jesus as portrayed in the Gospels is revealed to be nearly identical in detail to that of the earlier savior-gods Krishna and Horus, who for millennia preceding Christianity held great favor with the people in much the same way as Jesus does today. Thus, the Jesus character is not unique or original, not "divine re velation." These redeemer tales are similar not because they reflect the actual exploits of a variety of men who did and said the identical things, but because they are representations of the same extremely ancient body of knowledge that revolved around the celestial bodies and natural forces. The result of this mythmaking has been The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold. To place advance orders, please call (815) 253-6390. Adventures Unlimited, One Adventure Place Kempton, Illinois 60946-0074 USA Acharya S on the Radio! | Religion Spirituality | Politics Society | Earth Cosmos | Emails I Have Loved | Answers to Questions and Comments | About the Author | Acharya S's Recommended Reading | The Institute for Historical Accuracy | From Sex to Superconciousness | Favorite Sites | Web Promotion Tools | Truth Be Known Home © 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- Again, just a bunch of drivel. We could discuss this matter further off the list if you wish... Jamie Here's additional info on a possible model for the Christ created by Eusebius and friends. -- Mark McHugh http://www.apollonius.net/contents.html === - - - Apollonius of Tyana : The Monkey of Christ? - - - ^ By Robertino Solàrion ©1999 * An Astounding Revelation Saved From the Flames that Burnt the Alexandrian Library, which the Roman Churchmen razed to the ground to destroy all records of the "Mystery Man" of Christianity - APOLLONIUS OF TYANA - the historical Christ and World Teacher of the First Century, Now Revealed in Its Entirety, Proving that APOLLONIUS OF TYANA was the True Founder of Early Christianity and that "the Jesus Christ" of the New Testament had no existence except in the imagination of the Pagan Roman Priests at Nicaea, subsequently called the "Church Fathers," who invented him in 325 A.D. as a substitute for APOLLONIUS OF TYANA, THE TRUE CHRIST! + Apollonius of Tyana : The Monkey of Christ? http://www.apollonius.net/contents.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dallas, Texas + "O, ye immortal gods, grant us whatever you shall judge it fit and proper to bestow, and of which we may not be undeserving." Apollonius of Tyana + DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- To associate the Lord Jesus Christ with pagan idols is essentially to deny his diety. Pagan idols were concocted because man did not want to know the real God and/or were fearful of him. Pagan idols hardly capture the loving and faithful fatherlike nature of God. Unfortunately in l999 what is called "New Age" (as in "New Age Christ") is updated paganism. I suggest the Bible best describes Jesus, not paganism or philosphy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- Amen! To associate the Lord Jesus Christ with pagan idols is essentially to deny his diety. Pagan idols were concocted because man did not want to know the real God and/or were fearful of him. Pagan idols hardly capture the loving and faithful fatherlike nature of God. Unfortunately in l999 what is called "New Age" (as in "New Age Christ") is updated paganism. I suggest the Bible best describes Jesus, not paganism or philosphy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- An Astounding Revelation Saved From the Flames that Burnt the Alexandrian Library, which the Roman Churchmen razed to the ground to destroy all records of the "Mystery Man" of Christianity - APOLLONIUS OF TYANA - the Amazing to find such a precise determination of the cause of the loss of the magnificent library at Alexandria when most objective accounts I've read suggest it occurred during a period of great civil strife, mob violence and near anarchy which involved just about every ethnic/social and religious group! As I understand it the Greeks, Jews, Christians, local pagans - all or most undergoing internal division at this time - were seriously involved so the idea that ONLY Christians played a role in the sacking of the library may be an example of early anti-Christian propaganda. Jamieson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- One can't expect much from someone who thinks "Christ is Borg" (www.truthbeknown.com). DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis June 1, 1999
__ Stratfor's FREE Kosovo Crisis Center - http://www.stratfor.com/kosovo/crisis/ The most comprehensive coverage of the Kosovo Crisis anywhere on the Internet __ STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update Weekly Analysis May 24, 1999 The Return of National Security Summary: The news from around the world is about war, political intrigue, and espionage. The obsession with free and fair trade, global interdependence, and economies without borders has evaporated over the past year or so.What we are experiencing is the reassertion of traditional understandings of nationalism and of national security and the decline of the ideology of globalism. The return of conflict among nations to the center stage of history and in the daily newspaper is the important news. The nation-state, far from declining, is vigorously reasserting itself, with the inevitable accompaniment of bullets and blood. Analysis: It is occasionally useful to step back from the issues dominating the news to consider some of the deeper and more important processes that are underway in the world. When we do that, something quite startling leaps out at us. Perhaps what is most startling about it is that we should be startled at all, for the return of national security at the center of global concerns is merely the return of the world to its natural order. After a decade of hearing about the decline of the nation-state and the triumph of globalism, the fact is that the nation-state and nationalism are vibrantly alive. It follows from this that concern for the security of the nation has superceded the globalist visions of "the world without borders" and the transcendence of politico-military issues by denationalized economic entities and forces. This is not a local, parochial evolution. This weekend, NATO forces are engaged in combat against Serbia. U.S. aircraft are flying combat air patrols over Iraq. Indian air and land forces are engaging Pakistani forces. Secret talks are going on between Syria and Israel over the Golan Heights. CIA and FBI counter-intelligence people are working desperately to try to figure out what Chinese intelligence acquired, when they acquired it, and how it will affect the regional and global balance of power. Russian covert operatives are trying to influence events in the Caucuses. In short, the world is returning to its normal state in which politics, war, and espionage - along with economics - are the natural currency among nations. This is startling only in the context of some of the things that were being said less than a decade ago. In the minds of some, the end of the Cold War marked the end not only of an era in history, but of a fundamental, millennial shift in how the world worked. According to many extremely practical and influential people, the end of the Cold War inaugurated a new era in which commercial and economic forces had supplanted political and military issues. From Tokyo to Bonn to New York, there was a general consensus that borders had become archaic and meaningless and that they had been rendered so by the globalization of economic life. The dynamics of economic life, this theory went, had taken us to a point where international trade had created an intensifying interdependence among nations. Markets were so intimately tied together that the disruption of any one market would disrupt all other markets. This made war and even deep-seated political conflict unthinkable, since war and conflict would inevitably disrupt economic and commercial relations which, in turn, would wreak havoc on not only the combatants, but also on third parties who would be affected by any hot or cold war. Given this, even if two nations were inclined to engage in intense politico-military competition, their irrationality would effect the interests of other members of the international community immediately, who would act to suppress this disruptive behavior. Consider the case of U.S.-Chinese relations. Under this theory, intensifying commercial relations between the two countries had reached such a point of intensity that both countries had a fundamental interest in maintaining and expanding them. Each country would suppress any action that might disrupt those relations. Thus, it began to appear as if the fact that China was a communist country was purely incidental, an archaic legacy rendered irrelevant by commercial interests and in no way incompatible with its splendid relations with the capitalist world. Similarly, deep-rooted geopolitical issues, such as China's relationship with Taiwan, were regarded as archaic. Taiwan, China and the United States all wanted the same thing: robust economic growth fueled by international trade and investment. The issue simply appeared meaningless in the broader context of globalization and interdependence. The China example can be universalized to a general theory of how the
Re: [CTRL] Moral Relativism: The Phantom Menace
-Caveat Lector- Howdy, one of CTRL's functions is as an informational exchange and archive. There are psychological sets(memes) deliberately and undeliberate that are released into our lifestreams. By 'reading the river' one can be more prepared and understanding of where one is at . MHO. These 'libertarian' memes and others are sent out not as an endorsement but for awareness and understanding. We are in the midst of info/cultural.meme war for our children's future. One needs to look especially at 'cutting edged' political thinking, manipulations - one of these are these differring viewpoints. You may always delete. Read many views - Be careful of what you believe - Actions begat. Om K In a message dated 5/31/99 10:47:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to stop these mailings from the Libertarians? There must be an egroup for those people to use w/o bothering us. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] some more on l.d. brown's book
From: cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] One additional post on the L.D. Brown book before I pass it along ... Most of what Brown says re. cia-drugs is contained in Chapters 8 and 9--the two chapters I excerpted. In Chapter 10 he goes on to describe some further work he did for Felix Rodriguez: three trips to the Bahamas, $1000 per trip to stand guard with an AK-47 while containers were unloaded off a boat. He was told the containers carried weapons. In the same chapter he retells the story about being sent to assassinate Terry Reed--nothing new there, as far as I can see. In Chapter 11 he discusses, among other things, his role in investigating the Train Deaths. He discovered that Malak hadn't conducted the appropriate tests to determine how much THC was in the boys' systems. He informed Doug Stephens, the commander of the criminal division of the Arksansas State Police who then told him: "L.D., I'm taking you off this case. This has something to do with Mena." There are some interesting accounts of his experiences with the media. Mike Wallace called him and said they wanted to do a story on Clinton and the CIA. "He then went on to tell me of his friendship with Donald Gregg, also known to me ... as CIA operations officer Dan Magruder. 'I just find it hard to believe a man like Donald Gregg would be talking with an Arkansas State Trooper,' he said with a sort of prissy tone. Well I know some Arkansas state troopers may seem to be a lower life form, but still the remark upset me a little. He sensed this and decided to go for broke. "L.D., I hear you like to take a drink," he offered, obviously buying into the Clinton lie that I was Little Rock's answer to Mayberry's Otis Campbell ..." (BTW Donald Gregg aka Dan Magruder (see excerpts from chapter 8) was national security advisor to Bush 1982-89 and Rodriguez's boss in Vietnam.) He also describes how Jerry Seper from the Washington Times wrote a story misquoting him without actually having interviewed him. The Weekly Standard reported an allegation, originating from Clinton attorney Kendall, that Brown had killed his mother, without checking it out. And so on ... Overall, the book strikes me as being a straight-forward account of his experiences. But there are two passages that I can't help but see as red flags. Perhaps I'm overly suspicious. The first on page 131: "From my dealings with Rodriguez, I believe he was as opposed to drug dealing as he was to Communism. He often talked about both. I still do not think he knew in advance of the drugs being flown into the United States by Seal or anyone else who had connections to the Agency." I find it suspicious that Brown would even speculate about what Rodriguez knew or didn't know. As if Rodriguez would reveal to him what he knew or didn't ... The second on page 160: "Knowing Vince as we did, and having the knowledge of how the case has been mishandled, I think there may be some truth in the theories that the official report is not altogether the whole story. The alternative version that I would accept would involve the movement of Vince's body. The suicide may have occurred at a place (and time) that was embarrassing to the Clintons." Here I don't see how he can be so sure it was a suicide when there is no evidence at all that it was--the evidence points more to homicide. He also pushes the idea that Foster had a "torrid" affair with Hillary and that they were "soul mates" but without actually explaining how he came to know about the depth of their emotional attachment. He goes on: "I believe this is so, since it is absolutely inconceivable to me that Vince would have killed himself without having said goodbye to Hillary." Unless he was one of Foster's close friends--which he wasn't--it makes no sense to make that statement. The book could be construed as an exercise in containment. He doesn't push our understanding of the issues further, there's not much that hasn't already been revealed--except maybe for the D'Amato headlock which is just weird ... ~ have a happy memorial day! cameron z. Give back to your community through "Grow to Give." http://www.ONElist.com See homepage for details.
[CTRL] House Intell Comm Holds Surprise Shut Door Hearings on CIA/Drugs in LA-Maxine Waters barred
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.copvcia.com/HIC_closed_session.htm A HREF="http://www.copvcia.com/HIC_closed_session.htm"BREAKING NEWS/A - House Intelligence Committee Holds Surprise Closed Door Hearings on CIA and Drugs in Los Angeles Maxine Waters denied admission after written request. PENDING H.U.D. SACNADAL CONNECTING CIA TO SOUTH CENTRAL MAY HAVE PROMPTED SURPRISE MOVE Tuesday, May 25, 1999 - 1450 PST In a move which still has many leaders on both coasts reeling from its suddenness, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) today held closed door hearings, "on allegations that the CIA is involved in drug trafficking in California." A posting announcing the hearings was placed on a Congressional web site directory announcing upcoming events sometime late Friday and was not noted by Congressional staffers until Monday or Tuesday. Maxine Waters (D), California, who has been an outspoken critic of CIA involvement was not notified directly and her staff did not catch the announcement until sometime on Monday, according to sources in the Congresswoman's DC office. A source in Waters' office told From The Wilderness, "We sent a letter requesting that the Congresswoman be admitted to the hearings over by messenger this morning. The request was denied." Waters, who has been in the forefront on the issue has received both criticism and praise for her handling of the issue in recent months. Appearing at a private fund raising event for tribunals held by the Institute for Policy Studies at USC this past weekend, Waters discussed her recent efforts on the subject. These ncluded the passage of an amendment she had written for the Intelligence Appropriations Measure (HR 1555) which prohibits CIA from engaging in drug trafficking. The wording of the HPSCI announcement, however, leaves many confused as to the exact subject of the hearings. The only pending hearings in HPSCI are on the subject of Volume II which is not about Los Angeles but about CIA Contra involvement throughout the Contra war - all over the hemisphere. The Los Angeles connection to CIA/Contra activities was discussed in an open door session in Washington on March 16, 1998 and was focused on the contents of Volume I of a CIA Inspector General report prepared by retired CIA Inspector General Fredrick P. Hitz in 1997. When questioned, a receptionist at HPSCI stated this afternoon that she did not know whether today's hearings were on Volume II or not. She stated that all staffers were inside the hearings and that no one was available to provide any further information at the moment. A POSSIBLE EXPLANATION The Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), a Washington, D.C. based think-tank held public hearings on Drug Policy at the University of California on Saturday and Sunday May 22 23. The tribunals, attended by the academic and journalistic "Who's Who" of CIA and drugs, were well publicized in advance. This writer attended those tribunals and found them enormously useful but not revelatory in terms of breaking news. A private fundraiser was held Saturday night at which Maxine Waters spoke of her recent efforts. In a conversation with this writer it was apparent the she had no hint of today's hearings. NOTE: Recent articles by this writer, connecting Volume II to the Impeachment of Bill Clinton, did not soften the public relationship of this writer and Waters who publicly embraced me and openly acknowledged my work at the fundraiser. I really believe that, within the realities of the system, Maxine wants to find and answer. - MCR] The day before the tribunals however, at USC, From The Wilderness and former Bush Assistant Secretary of Housing, Catherine Austin Fitts, released an exclusive article connecting CIA drug trafficking in South Central Los Angeles to HUD mortgage defaults and apparent ethnic cleansing in Los Angeles. The Friday night press conference was attended by CNN and The L.A. WEEKLY newspaper. Advance copies of Fitts' article in From The Wilderness were distributed to at least one member of Congress and two news organizations on Wednesday and Thursday. The substance of Fitts' article was to produce documentary evidence showing a clearly traceable pattern of HUD backed mortgage defaults in the heart of South Central Los Angeles and to connect that data to the revelations that the CIA had been connected to LA crack cocaine kingpin Ricky Ross. Fitts, fired by Housing Secretary Jack Kemp in 1990, had become a hugely successful investment banker in 1996 working with HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros to auction defaulted mortgages into the private sector. Fitts attended the IPS tribunals with this writer on Saturday and spoke directly with Maxine Waters at the fundraiser on Saturday evening. It was because of data bases developed by Fitts' firm, Hamilton, in 1996 that Fitts now believes she was targeted for destruction at the same time the Gary Webb stories appeared in the San Jose Mercury News (8/96). In the years since,
[CTRL] Fwd: [Fwd: Re: The United States is Still a British Colony]
BREAKING NEWS: House Intelligence Committee Holds Surprise Closed Door Hearings on CIA and Drugs. Maxine Waters (D) is Denied Admission http://www.copvcia.com/ Original Message Subject: Re: The United States is Still a British Colony Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:47:19 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] READ UNION JACK: http://www.eskimo.com/~ralphj/unionjack_html/ == From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lawyers out of Public Office ~ IT'S THE LAW is the only catalyst issue which has to be considered before any other issue can work! It is the only way to cut govt. costs, reduce taxes, increase fire-police protection-etc. (hard costs) ~ all at the same time! The big Miami Herald refuses to print the law (Art. I I, Sec. 3, State Constitution). Please bombard the Publisher (a lawyer) and Editors with demands as to why they refuse to at least debate this issue and report the progress of an official complaint made against two Lawyer Candidates for Mayor of Miami Beach (one has already dropped out). Your action could be the 1st. shot heard around the world! email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- June 1st., 1999 Dear Fellow Taxpayers and Residents of Miami Beach: My name is Mike Calhoun and I am not a lawyer. I am running for Mayor of Miami Beach on the comprehensive issue of: Lawyers out of Office ~ IT'S THE LAW (Art II, Sec 3, Fla. Constitution). I am a former Dade County Commissioner, an experienced campaigner, and former member of the Metropolitan Dade County's Zoning and Tax Relief Boards. I am writing to ask for your moral and financial help in this campaign. Moral in the form of a statement supporting my position (or one calling for public debate on this issue). Financial in the form of a campaign contribution. This campaign is regarded by many as the first real attempt to bring significant, meaningful, and permanent changes to a conflict-of-interest damaged political landscape. It would result in cutting taxes and cost of govt., while providing increases in fire-police protection. All this would be achieved by commencing the dismantling of the unconstitutional monopolistic control by lawyers of all government. It is an illegal 'monopoly' directly responsible for most legalized corruption. It is the source of most of our major problems in every key area of our lives: govt. projects, excessive legal fees, education, health care, crime prevention, a failed justice system, divorce, environment, loss of individual rights, to name only a few. The problems are so pervasive and apparently un-solvable, regardless of which lawyers we elect, Democrat or Republican, that surveys consistently show the majority of voters do not trust govt. and therefore do not bother to vote at all (60-70% on Mia. Bch.)! Two other candidates for Mayor are lawyers. Both already occupy public office illegally. Their names are: Incumbent Mayor Neisen Kasdin, and City Commissioner Martin Shapiro. Several of us have challenged their qualifications to run for (and implicitly occupy), public office. The public challenges are in the form of complaints to the Miami-Dade County Election Supervisor's Office. Unconfirmed media reports indicate Atty. Shapiro has withdrawn from the race but continues to hold public office as a Commissioner. Atty. Kasdin has evaded the issue completely and remains in the race and in office as Mayor, until a judge removes him. No-one, including the Fla. Bar (an arm of the Fla. Supreme Court) has even presented an argument, not evasive of the issue, to refute my position (see attached letter)! This is because anyone with a working knowledge of English can see our complaints are well founded. Nevertheless all available evidence supports the conclusion that my opponents believe no 'judge will go against his own people'; that logic, law, and common sense will fail in the face of peer pressure and other types of influence. I still believe there is enough integrity left in our judicial system, to force justice to surface, so therefore we may very well win in Court, especially if voters become aware, speak up, and vote! So to win in Court or at the ballot box, I need help from you and the electors. We must speak out now. Public opinion is the most neglected (and the most important) aspect of judicial decision making. Judges tend to go with public opinion or outcry. Winning at the ballot box, even with delays in the Courts, will achieve a same effect. Lawyers will lose elections and the means to deceive the public, get the message, and stop running for office (research: http://www.constitutionalguardian.com Many of us have innocently supported lawyers' campaigns for public office, unaware that the campaign was illegal (and the reasons why it is illegal). Now all of us, most particularly those who helped lawyers gain
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Nazi ism = New Age?]
-Caveat Lector- Sno0wl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 27 May 99, , Taylor, wrote: Horrified Western historians were unified in their inability to understand how the "Christian" Germany of Martin Luther could have become the Satanic Germany of Adolf Hitler. Seems to me that Martin Luther was decidedly anti-Semitic, so it would not be a very great leap from Luther to Hitler. FWIW, the last time this came up on the list, I did an extensive search both on the Internet and offline, and was NOT able to confirm the antisemitic remarks attributed to Martin Luther. Every reference led back to dubious sources. My conclusion, therefore, is that the allegations that Luther held antisemitic views are just that, allegations, probably originating with genuine antisemites who wanted to give their ideology an aura of historical legitimacy. More to the point than wondering how Luther's Germany became the Hitlerian abomination, ask yourselves how the *liberal* Germany of Beethoven and Schiller, the Germany that produced the "Ode to Joy," could become the Third Reich of the Nazis. I have spent a lifetime struggling with that question, and I still have no answer, except to say that Germans, like all other human beings, are extraordinarily complex and contradictory beings. Remember this when contemplating the Nazis: the same people that produced the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution, in the century that followed, engaged in multiple imperialist wars of aggression and decimated the native peoples of North America in a tragedy at least as horrible as the Holocaust, as well as embracing an economic system that reduced millions of their fellow American citizens to wage slavery no better than the chattel slavery practiced in the slave states of the South. Each of us is a potential Hitler. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 6/1/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From The Collapse of Barings by Stephen Fay The difficulty was that Leeson knew no way of becoming an elite trader himself without exploiting his secret 8 account. He was using it in a canny way to build his reputation among Barings' traders in Tokyo. They would ask Leeson to execute, on their behalf, a sell order at the prevailing price, say $99.20. Lesson would report the sale to Tokyo at $99.50, giving Tokyo an unexpected profit of 30 cents. Leeson had sold at the prevailing price ($99.20), and the subsequent 30-cent loss was absorbed by the 8 account. Naturally, Leeson's 'skill' at executing Tokyo's orders was admired by established traders . . . As a mark of their confidence, Leeson was permitted to start trading options for clients in October 1993. That was a boon to him. By October 1993, the loss on the 8 account was up again-- to 5.7 million British pounds . . . and by the end of the year they were 24.39 million British pounds . . . But the loss never showed up in the accounts because Leeson had written options which had sold for 30 million British pounds. This was the most hazardous transaction he had entered into so far because, if the market had moved against him, the potential loss was unlimited. But, if his deception was to continue, Leeson had no choice. Although he never received the option premiums in cash--the premium is automatically remitted to the exchange as margin for the deal--the 30 million British pounds appeared as a credit to Leeson's profit-and-loss account, balancing his real loss on the 8 account, and hiding his trail. = Killer Shoes 54 Dead, 100 Injured in Minsk Stampede 42 Dead Teen Girls Blamed on High Heels MINSK, May 31, 1999 -- (Agence France Presse) Fifty-four people died and more than 100 others were injured in a stampede in a passageway leading to a Minsk subway station after a rock concert, according to a first official toll Monday. Nearly all the victims were teenagers under 18 who had been to the concert on Sunday evening, Belarus government radio said . The death toll could rise as some of the injured were in serious condition, said Interior Minister Yuri Sivakov in a statement early Monday over Belarus television. The accident occurred during a sudden storm at around 9 p.m. (1800 GMT). The crowd of around 2,500 who had been at the open-air concert rushed for cover into a nearby passageway leading to an underground station, crushing those who had fallen underfoot in the stampede. Two policemen and a few adults who had been on their way out of the subway station also died after getting caught in the crowd. The interior minister said of the 54 dead, 42 were girls wearing high-heeled shoes that had apparently caused them to stumble and fall in the rush. He said many of the people at the show, billed as a "beer concert," had been drunk. Most of the victims had died of suffocation, the report said. The Belarus government was to hold an emergency meeting Monday as investigators tried to sort out how the tragedy occurred. Belarus television and radio had stopped regular programming and played classical music on Monday. Russia Today, June 1, 1999 Hacking for Jesus Hackers Threaten to Take Down All Government Web Sites Gee, wouldn't that be a tragedy... WASHINGTON (AP) -- Computer hackers vandalized two more government sites on the Internet today and left a taunting note promising to attack more federal computers because of a related FBI investigation. Hackers from different organizations defaced a Web page early Monday within the Interior Department and a site run by a federal supercomputer laboratory in Idaho Falls, Idaho, claiming ``it's our turn to hit them where it hurts.'' ``These are the perils of open government,'' said Stephanie Hanna, an Interior spokeswoman. ``We try to make as much of the materials of the Interior Department as open and available as possible. The consequence of that is, those who choose to do damaging things can do that.'' Last week, hackers claiming to be from another group defaced the Web site for the U.S. Senate, causing it to be taken offline until the weekend. The FBI also was forced to take down its own Internet site last week after hackers launched an electronic attack against it. It remained inaccessible Monday, along with the Web site for its National Infrastructure Protection Center, which helps investigate computer crimes. Messages left at the attacked sites suggest they were vandalized to retaliate against what was said to be the FBI's harassment of specific hacker groups, including the group that boasted of breaking into the White House site last month. The FBI confirmed it executed four search warrants last week in Texas related to an investigation into allegations
[CTRL] Magickal Histories . . . ?
-Caveat Lector- from: prioryofsion digest 583 http://www.onelist.com The mailing list resource page can be found at the following address http://www.albino.com/circle/pos/ An always interesting list. Om K - Message: 5 Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 01:20:20 +0200 From: x Subject: Re: Crowley and Gardner (was: Women) Ok, to clarify this subject a bit. (I expressed myself badly before.) Mathers was Crowley's teacher and initiator in his first years in the Golden Dawn (1898 and a couple of years). Later Crowley and Mathers became bitter enemies and he portrayed him (justified?) in a very disgusting way in some of his books (Moonchild and others). Anyway, this was in the beginning of Crowley's career as a magician. His contact with Gardner was much later, in the middle 40s, just before Crowley died. Gardner hired Crowley (at a generous fee), to write the rituals for his new Gardnerian witch-cult. Crowley wrote and when reading the Book of Shadows it only too obvious that it was Crowley who wrote it and there is a lot of word by word phrases from the Book of the Law and other books by Crowley. Of cource Gardner edited the material and added the floggingstuff, but Crowley gave the "spirit" to it. Love is the Law / Daedalus -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Magus Ater [SMTP:x] Skickat: xxx Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ämne: Re: [priory-of-sion] Women From: ) Dxxx writes: "Gerald Gardner for sure stole or lended much of his material from Crowley when he re-fired the wicca-momentum. Mathers and the Golden Dawn was way before that." Not so, but contrarywise. Crowley joined the Golden Dawn while Mathers was its head and ultimately tried to take control of the organization from him. Much of Crowley's magickal system was based on / extrapolated from things he learned while in the Golden Dawn. His seminal "Book of the Law was the result of a working that was based on the magick in the Abra-Melin the Mage grimoire that Mathers discovered and translated. The magickal tradition of Crowley could not be more closely intertwined with Mathers. M = Message: 10 Date: Fri, 7 May 99 23:53:44 -0700 From: Qxx Subject: Re: Emma Calv=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=e9_in__the_GD=3f_=28Was:_Women=29?= Dx Q I would be very happy if you (or someone else) could give me sources to that information! I knew that Emma Calvé had some occult friends who mingled with Golden Dawn members, but not that she was connected any closer than that to the GD. That Sauniere was connected to the GD in any way is an exciting idea, but I've never even heard of that before. RA Wilson wrote in "Everything is under Control" that Sauniere was a member of one or more occult groups in Paris. But I have been unable to verify that either. It would be great if you could suggest a book where this information is present. (I thought I had read most of the English books on the subject). I'm trying to find my source-- which actually said Emma had been initiated in the Paris chapter of either the Golden Dawn or one of it's immediate successors. But just because that book says it doesn't guarantee that it's true, most of the books I read are bosh. Mathers did a lot of scrambling trying to keep his Parisian occult connections afloat. I have some serious prejudices against Mathers -- he changed his supposed sun sign to suit his mood and pretensions-- but his wife Moina apparently channeled most of the real occult stuff and I respect her. I believe Emma had a connection to several initiates-- the bedroom kind of connection. She reminds me of that actress mentioned in the Dumas Club who used her bedside manner to seek entry to the higher mysteries-- Adah Isaacs Menken, who is way too early for our story. It's a real wonder she didn't hook up with Crowley but perhaps she had more aesthetic tastes. She was Langued'oc born and bred by the way and spent a lot of time down south so could have met Sauniere on his own home territory if his trip to Paris is proved an absolute washout-- that, I think I got from either the Templar Revelation or The Tomb of God-- I read the both of them one right after the other and can't keep them straight. Give me a bit of time-- I'm a bit medicated at present and going through a kind of a healing crisis. Qxxx xx - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no
[CTRL] The Final Battle
-Caveat Lector- The Final Battle Suppose for the sake of argument that the physical battle for freedom has been lost by the human race - that such pervasive mechanisms of control both political and technological are in place have all but locked the human race up in chains of iron. If that were the case, that is certainly Not Good Enough for the Global Totalitarian elite - they must have more - total control over the mind and spirit, the very souls of humanity. Having immobilised their prey with politics and technology, they begin the softening up process on the human will. We become assaulted by a barrage of nauseating obscenties and abuse as they attempt to grapple with the surly wills of the technological peasants. But it is a battle that they have not yet won - where the only key to victory is the knowledge of immortality and re-incarnation - which gives the ability to endure and persevere. The physical fact of survival is not contingent on religion. Shrouded in fear and nonsense - polluted by Hollywoods demons, death seems a daunting prospect best left in the hands of the professionals - not so. If the Regime cannot silence their prey with fear - they will not be able to win - as millions of people realise the knowledge that has been carefully concealed behind hypocrisy and dogma. The Human race is Superhuman, eternal, with lost memories of epochs buried in a badly engineered temporary brain and shell - borrowed like some overcoat - to survive the winter of oppression. Battling for the human soul, the elite know that they must sleep the masses and not awaken those ancient buried memories. In that event - the elite will lose the Final Battle. Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh Scotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [9] Secret Germany - Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade Against Hitler
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Secret Germany - Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade Against Hitler Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh,(C) 1994 PENGUIN BOOKS Published by the Penguin Group Penguin Books Ltd. 27 Wrights Lane London W8 3TZ, England --[9]-- 8 Operation Barbarossa The organisation to which Stauffenberg was posted was OKH, Oberkommando des Heeres, the General Staff or high command of the army, officially designated as the Wehrmacht. There was also a distinct, separate, overlapping and often conflicting organisation, OKW, Oberkommando der Wehrmacht, the high command of all the armed forces, which did not deal specifically with the Wehrmacht as such. OKH was under the supreme command of the Chief of the General Staff- who, when Stauffenberg joined it, was his old friend, Colonel-General Franz Halder, one of the guiding spirits behind the thwarted coup of 1938. OKW, on the other hand, was under the supreme and direct command of Adolf Hitler. In addition to OKH and OKW, there were a number of other chains of command: the SS and the SD; Goering and the Ministry of the Interior; the Foreign Office under Ribbentrop. The whole set-up was a chaos of competing authorities, each in its own watertight compartment . . . Hitler was obsessed by a suspicion mania. Instead of a sound, sensible organisation for war, he preferred this total confusion, since it prevented any potential concentration of power in the hands of any one authority. [1] If the situation seems hopelessly baffling now, it was almost as much so to German officers at the time. One of his colleagues described a lecture Stauffenberg gave to a group of young officers training for General Staff positions. He drew diagrams on the blackboard beside him, detailing the various command organisations and the tangled links of authority and supply between them. Before long, his diagram looked like a confused work of abstract art. Stauffenberg paused. Finally, in despair, he asked his audience if any organisation so constructed could possibly win a war.[2] On another occasion, at the General Staff College, he opened a lecture as follows: If our most highly qualified Genera! Staff officers had been told to work out the most nonsensical high level organisation for war which they could think of, they could not have produced anything more stupid than that which we have at present.[3] The muddled command structure of the Third Reich's armed forces is generally regarded as a major contributing factor to Germany's eventual defeat. It was also to be the bane of Stauffenberg's existence during the two and a half years he spent with the General Staff. Its headquarters, to which he was officially attached, were, for much of the war, frenetically peripatetic. At first OKH headquarters were shunted about between various sites in southern Germany. After the French campaign, they were established at Fontainbleau, near Paris, which enabled Stauffenberg to make frequent trips into the French capital and visit the opera. By October 1940, headquarters were back in Germany, at Zossen, near Berlin, and after the invasion of Russia in the summer of 1941, they were moved to the Eastern Front. Eventually, during the latter phases of the war, they were installed in East Prussia, not far from Hitler's own (OKW) headquarters at Rastenburg. Stauffenberg was placed in charge of Group II of the General Staff's Organisation Section. The head of the section and his immediate superior was Colonel Walther Buhle, a man he did not particularly like. Subsequently, as a major-general, Buhle was to be transferred from the General Staff to Hitler's own (OKW) headquarters - and to be injured in the blast of 20 July 1944. Among Stauffenberg's colleagues on the General Staff was another friend, Albrecht Merz von Quirnheim. Stauffenberg's responsibilities involved much travel, both to the front and to support areas in the rear. He had virtually complete freedom of movement, and transport - including aircraft - was made available to him whenever he wished. At the front, he was obliged to maintain ongoing observation of various units and to monitor their battleworthiness, the state of their equipment, supply and morale. In the rear, he had to monitor training programmes in the Reserve Army, to allocate replacements, to find positions for new officers, to shunt recovered casualties back to front-line formations - and to confront the problem, increasingly insoluble as the war progressed, of keeping front-line units properly supplied, reinforced and up to strength. These and numerous other duties kept him incessantly busy. Of all the officers in his section, he is the most frequently cited in the OKH war diary for 1942. On 1 January 1941, six months after his appointment to the General Staff, Stauffenberg was promoted to major. By this time, he was deeply involved in planning the invasion of Russia, preliminary studies for which had begun as early as July 1940. From the very beginning,
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- From: AOL User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:39:18 EDT To associate the Lord Jesus Christ with pagan idols is essentially to deny his diety. Jesus' 'diety' is solely a matter of FAITH, not 'fact'... Various 'pagan' religions feel that their particular diety or dieties are ALSO divine... Again, solely a matter of FAITH... Pagan idols were concocted because man did not want to know the real God and/or were fearful of him. Pagan idols hardly capture the loving and faithful fatherlike nature of God. No, they capture the loving and faithful motherlike nature of the Great Mother Goddess (if they are of the wiccan-ilk)... Are you talking about the same God who ordered the Hebrews to slaughter every living being, including WOMEN and CHILDREN and the ELDERLY, not to mention all sheep, cattle, and asses, when invading Canaan? June (back from her hiatus) ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Patriotism
WHAT IS A PATRIOT? What should be the real nature of the patriotic movement? It is not a homogeneous group with identical goals. While I cannot speak for the motivations of others, this is my ideal of the proper goals of the true patriot. The true patriot has a concept of the ideal society properly derived from the Creator God of the universe. While loyalty to the land of ones fathers is moral in an earthly sense, such loyalty may not necessarily be spiritually based. God granted us free will, the right to choose between good and evil. He bestowed upon us the right to seek Him, to become aware of His Divine Spirit within, and to decide whether to do His will or to follow our own devices. The choices are between light and darkness, God and mammon, worship of God, or worship of self (self-deification). The distinctions between love and hate, truth and falsity, selfishness and altruism, and justice and tyranny must be clear and uncluttered by humanistic obfuscations. God endowed mankind with the opportunity to establish a solid family group upon which a stable and virtuous society must be based. He intended that men and women should be equal before him and in the courts of justice, but not that male and female must perforce be identical in every way. The children were to be reared with a foundation of God-knowing, God worshipping, and God loving. They must be taught goodness, beauty, and truth the the love of each other as exemplified by the precepts of the parents. They must be led to understand that while man is of animal origin, he has been endowed by the Indwelling Spirit of God, and is the only creature that is endowed with a soul. This is the great difference between man and the lower animals. This is what makes man the child of God. The lower animals are merely creatures of God and therefore subject to mankind as long as they are not improperly or cruelly used. I firmly believe that the Constitution of the United States was the best example of a guide to how men should be governed yet devised at the time. While it was not perfectly in accord with Gods will, it was a huge step in the right direction, one that could have led us to the ideal spiritualized government. But now, as most men know, it is under fierce attack by the forces of the secular humanistic and socialist creed of the New World Order, which threatens to plunge mankind back into slavery and serfdom. If we continue to stand and tolerate the destruction of the right to worship, the right to retain and enjoy the fruits of our labor, the right to own property and the right to raise our children without the intrusion of the State, we are lost. I believe that it is wrong to stand passively by and watch the deliberate subversion and corruption of the laws and ideals that were intended to permit the careful and gradual evolution of a perfect society. The following reference is cited: There are ten steps, or stages, to the evolution of a practical and efficient form of representative government, and these are: 1. Freedom of the person. Slavery, serfdom, and all forms of human bondage must disappear. 2. Freedom of the mind. Unless a free people are educated--taught to think intelligently and plan wisely--freedom usually does more harm than good. 3. The reign of law. Liberty can be enjoyed only when the will and whims of human rulers are replaced by legislative enactments in accordance with accepted fundamental law. 4. Freedom of speech. Representative government is unthinkable without freedom of all forms of expression for human aspirations and opinions. 5. Security of property. No government can long endure if it fails to provide for the right to enjoy personal property in some form. Man craves the right to use, control, bestow, sell, lease, and bequeath his personal property. 6. The right of petition. Representative government assumes the right of citizens to be heard. The privilege of petition is inherent in free citizenship. 7. The right to rule. It is not enough to be heard; the power of petition must progress to the actual management of the government. 8. Universal suffrage. Representative government presupposes an intelligent, efficient, and universal electorate. The character of such a government will ever be determined by the character and caliber of those who compose it. As civilization progresses, suffrage, while remaining universal for both sexes, will be effectively modified, regrouped, and otherwise differentiated. 9. Control of public servants. No civil government will be serviceable and effective unless the citizenry possess and use wise techniques of guiding and controlling officeholders and public servants. 10. Intelligent and trained representation. The survival of democracy is dependent on successful representative government; and that is conditioned upon the practice of electing to public offices only those individuals who are technically trained, intellectually competent, socially loyal, and morally fit. Only by such
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- Jesus' 'diety' is solely a matter of FAITH, not 'fact'... Various 'pagan' religions feel that their particular diety or dieties are ALSO divine... Again, solely a matter of FAITH... True, as Kierkegaarde noted one must make a leap of faith. All religious constructs are subjective and fideistic and, in my opinion, irrational and anti-rational. Credo quia absurdum est! No, they capture the loving and faithful motherlike nature of the Great Mother Goddess (if they are of the wiccan-ilk)... Which 'Great Mother Goddess'? The castrating Cybele? She is the quintessential Great Mother Goddess after all; the contemporary Wiccan Great Mother Goddess seems to be a modern creation. Are you talking about the same God who ordered the Hebrews to slaughter every living being, including WOMEN and CHILDREN and the ELDERLY, not to mention all sheep, cattle, and asses, when invading Canaan? Wellhe did warn us he was a jealous God didn't he? ;) Jamieson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] China Going Hardline, Anti-US
-Caveat Lector- Yeah, well I can understand where the Chinese might feel some resentment about the words and charges that have recently been slung at them. Still if it builds more resentment against Clinton, hasn't it all been worth it? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Andrew: Is Melissa a government contrivance?
-Caveat Lector- At 14:23 31/03/99 -0500, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Andrew: as far as i'm aware, you only need to fear it if you use MS outlook. i don't use MS Outlook, i use eudora, no need for me to worry. the most rebellious anti-authoritarian part of internet users (hackers and other techies) then to use linux, so they don't need to fear either. Here's hoping you are right about Eudora (been using Eudora ever since I got on line) and LINUX, my friend. I still can't believe Big Bro hasn't got a way of tapping into these as well. Do you really believe that they haven't? I really don't think you need to worry about their capability, I'm sure they have unhindered access to most of what they require. Linux wouldn't figure very highly on their list of things to do today. BG Forever paranoid, Edward "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ ¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» ¯¯ Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground. http://www.davidicke.com __ ¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» ¯¯ Check out his website books at: http://www.davidicke.com "The Biggest Secret" "...And the Truth Shall Set you Free" Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- There's plenty of FACTS to back the existence of Jesus. Research. It's a good thing. As for the faith part, whether you believe in God or the mathematical impossibility that we just all of the sudden came into existence, they both take a matter of faith as we weren't there to observe either, one however requires a bit more. Jamie -Original Message- From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold -Caveat Lector- From: AOL User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:39:18 EDT To associate the Lord Jesus Christ with pagan idols is essentially to deny his diety. Jesus' 'diety' is solely a matter of FAITH, not 'fact'... Various 'pagan' religions feel that their particular diety or dieties are ALSO divine... Again, solely a matter of FAITH... Pagan idols were concocted because man did not want to know the real God and/or were fearful of him. Pagan idols hardly capture the loving and faithful fatherlike nature of God. No, they capture the loving and faithful motherlike nature of the Great Mother Goddess (if they are of the wiccan-ilk)... Are you talking about the same God who ordered the Hebrews to slaughter every living being, including WOMEN and CHILDREN and the ELDERLY, not to mention all sheep, cattle, and asses, when invading Canaan? June (back from her hiatus) ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:34:37 -0300 Again, solely a matter of FAITH... True, as Kierkegaarde noted one must make a leap of faith. All religious constructs are subjective and fideistic and, in my opinion, irrational and anti-rational. Credo quia absurdum est! But irrationality and anti-rationality are not necessarily 'bad'... some of the greatest discoveries were made via an irrational process, and we would not have great art or music or literature if it wasn't for that irrational/'anti-rational' element within us... The trick is to recognize it for what it is, and neither invalidate it nor give it undue power... No, they capture the loving and faithful motherlike nature of the Great Mother Goddess (if they are of the wiccan-ilk)... Which 'Great Mother Goddess'? The castrating Cybele? No, the loving caress of Kali;-) June ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- Sorry June, I didn't mean to imply that irrational/anti-rational faith was bad - in fact the opposite! I follow Kierkegaarde closely as his Christian belief is most akin to mine of all the philosophers/theologians I've studied; apart from Tertullian, who in many ways paved the way for this aspect of philosophy. I'm of the opinion that looking for rational scientific 'answers' to religion is missing the point of it all. To me God is pure truth (and pure objectivity) and that is why Kierkegaarde said "To God is Truth and to humanity is the pursuit of Truth" Jamieson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Tantra Goddess
Just a bit on Kalifor anyone interested. I have a Kali masque (and whit leopard rug) from India...quite old; however the masque I gave to my sister, an she gave it back - she was scared of it Colleen Friends in India sent me the lepard rug which the gardner's son had killed in their gardendo not now why I was then so blessed with this beastly but beautiful thing. http://www.reset.com/offshore/tantra.html
[CTRL] Nato:There is always a cost to defeat an evil.[was Waco an evil?]
-Caveat Lector- (Be Careful Brothers and Sisters, The overclass elites are using the media lords to condition our psyche in to accepting the Culture of Death; then proclaim themselves as our Protectors.) Sounds to me like Hitlerian nazism. Better learn who these people are that considers it a 'necessary price'. Of course if your a dumbed-down product of our socialist public school system, you'll think, "Who cares?". Socialism=Slavery and Death Constitutionalism=Freedom and Life We shouldn't allow the illiteracy of the many enslave the literate few! --- Monday, May 31, 1999 Published at 18:25 GMT 19:25 UK World: Europe Civilian deaths 'necessary price' Nato admits bombing bridge in Varvarin Nato says civilian casualties in Yugoslavia are the price of defeating evil, after three separate attacks in which at least 32 people are reported to have died. "There is always a cost to defeat an evil. It never comes free, unfortunately. But the cost of failure to defeat a great evil is far higher," said Nato spokesman Jamie Shea. He insisted Nato planes had bombed only "legitimate designated military targets" and if more civilians had died it was because Nato had been forced into military action. BBC's David Sillito: The number of civilian injuries continues to grow Yugoslavia says at least 20 people were killed when Nato planes hit a sanatorium and a neighbouring old people's home during a midnight raid in the town of Surdilica in south-eastern Serbia on Sunday. Another 11 are reported to have died in an attack on a bridge in Varvarin, south-central Serbia, and one person died when a bomb hit a car carrying foreign journalists. Wreckage of the bridge at Varvarin Alliance military spokesman General Konrad Freitag said Nato warplanes had successfully hit an ammunition storage depot and a military barracks in the raid on Surdulica. Nato is still investigating the claims of civilian deaths. Nato also described the attack on the bridge at Varvarin as a "designated and legitimate target". Mr Shea said: "Nato does not attack civilian targets, we attack exclusively military targets and take every precaution to avoid inflicting harm on civilians." According to Belgrade, at least 11 civilians were killed and 40 injured. Jon Leyne reports: "NATO denies allegations that its bombs are going astray" Yugoslav news agency Tanjug said the area would have been crowded with people attending the town market at 1pm local time (1100GMT) on Sunday, the time of the attack. Witnesses said four cars fell into the River Velika Morava during the first waves of attacks and rescuers who went to help victims were hit in a second wave of bombings. (Click here to see a map of latest Nato strikes) Tanjug also reported a car carrying foreign journalists in Kosovo was hit on Sunday, although Nato says there is no evidence an alliance plane was involved. Jamie Shea: We have no information so far that we were responsible The driver of the car, who was an interpreter, was killed and one British, one French and one Italian journalist had been injured, said the agency. Eve-Ann Prentice of The Times newspaper was treated in a hospital in Prizren but has since been released. Milosevic peace move Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic has confirmed he will accept the G8 principles for ending the Kosovo conflict. In a statement issued to Serbian radio, he said: "In line with our consistent policy of peace and defence of freedom, the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia has accepted the G8 principles and believes that the UN Security Council, in line with the UN Charter, should now make it possible with its resolution to move the solution to the crisis from the military to the political track." The US reacted with caution, saying it welcomed any positive development but it was not clear all the terms had been accepted. Michael Williams, a BBC correspondent in Belgrade, said Yugoslavia first accepted the G8 principles as a basis for negotiation some three weeks ago. But he said it was perhaps significant that the announcement had finally come from the highest echelons of government. Clinton calls for support US President Bill Clinton has urged Americans to support the Kosovo campaign. "What we are doing today will save lives, including American lives, in the future and it will give our children a better, safer world to live in," he said in his Memorial Day address. Mr Clinton said that if the United States was more heavily involved than other countries, it was because the US had a greater capacity. Jeremy Cooke reports: "The fighting threatens to spread into Albania itself" In another development, there has been upsurge in fighting between Serb forces and the Kosovo Liberation Army along the border between Kosovo and Albania. Serb shells hit an area less than a mile from the Morino crossing point used by hundreds of refugees every day. Aid
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/1/1999 8:22:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so-called Christians who spend energy on trying to 'prove' ANYTHING regarding Jesus cheapen the religion, and show the ULTIMATE disrespect to Him and to God... How is this "cheapening" Christianity? What do you mean by that comment? Would you say pagans who spend energy trying to "prove" ANYTHING regarding paganism cheapen paganism? (Let alone "shoe the ULTIMATE disrespect" to pagan gods and idols?) How about Moslems who spend energy trying to "prove" ANYTHING regarding Islam cheapening Islam? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Say NO To Socialized Health Care Today!
-Caveat Lector- MJ: For this to be true ... others MUST be slaves, victims of theft and out and out raped so that 'everyone' has healthcare -- whatever that may entail. nessie wrote: How so? MJ: How will doctors, nurses, et al AND supplies be 'paid for'? Will these people be FORCED to 'donate' their services? Will those persons who manufacture the supplies be FORCED to provide them at no charge? Will you forcibly TAKE money from OTHER working people to pay for this 'right'? Again, I ask ... especially if you respond in the affirmative for the above ... do the people who will be FORCED to pay for this 'right to healthcare' be permitted to make CHOICES for the recipients so as to 'ensure' minimal expenses? How is *ANY* of this compatible with liberty andfreedom? Regard$, --MJ There are two methods, or means, and only two, whereby man's needs and desires can be satisfied. One is the production and exchange of wealth; this is the economic means. The other is the uncompensated appropriation of wealth produced by others; this is the political means ... the State invariably had its origin in conquest and confiscation. -- Albert Jay Nock DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Stopforth, Jamie wrote: There's plenty of FACTS to back the existence of Jesus. Such so-called 'facts' are questionable at best, and it's a rare LEGITIMATE Biblical scholar who accepts them... But even if someone could prove the existence of a Jew named Joshua ben Joseph living in Palestine during the reign of Herod who wandered the countryside rattling the cages of the Pharisees and Sadducees, there is no way to prove the claim that He was the Son of God... It still comes down to a MATTER OF FAITH...and so-called Christians who spend energy on trying to 'prove' ANYTHING regarding Jesus cheapen the religion, and show the ULTIMATE disrespect to Him and to God... June ;-) *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UK GM WARS toxic backlash
-Caveat Lector- HRH Prince Charles attacks GM foods with his website. The Government has tried to shut the outspoken Royal up, but he is meeting with Dr Pushtei soon to publish the scientists findings on the ill effects of eating it. At the Bush Estate Roslin near Edinburgh news of Threats, Deaths, Surveillance, Police Harrassment, Black Helicopters, Military Involvement in the local labs, Nerve Agents and Biological Warfare engineered in the crops etc continue to leak out of the embattled scientific estate near Edinburgh. The labs have just been bought over by an american chemicals giant. Stories of local corruption of officials, pay-offs and the unstoppable spread of a toxic oilseed rape crop towards population areas seem more plausible given the amount of harrassment of citizens involved in the investigation. Local members of Parliament have opted not to turn up to community meetings where this is an issue. Newspapers appear unable to publish news of this large local problem near Edinburgh, Scotland. It is pretty clear to all involved that the Coverup at the Bush Estate Roslin conceals the most damning evidence to date of the disastrous effects of a genetic engineering programme gone wrong. The evidence is probably so conclusive that its full public exposure would mean at least a long suspension of the GE/GM programme in Britain, if not Europe, possibly a widely effective and long lasting ban on GM foods in Europe. The Bush Estate Roslin has become a hotspot of evil and bad genetic engineering, whilst it is found that Dolly is 3 but has a physical age of 9. The world appears to be caving in on the crass NWO programme to legally poison the populations with bad genetics. Elderly citizens asking questions, who stay out in the country are being terrorised by police vehicles in their back yards, motors running, lights off, miles from anywhere. These brave people need our help. please let this lady know that she is Not Alone. Please can you ask any knowledgeable action group to forward information or messages of support, funds or scientific advice to: Margot Daru, c/o Andrew Hennessey 24/2 Burgess Street Edinburgh EH6 6RD Scotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- One man's caress is another man's castration. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moral Relativism: The Phantom Menace
-Caveat Lector- To copy wholesale every email on the libertarian group to this one should not be allowed. To copy wholesale every email on any group to this one should not be allowed. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Say NO To Socialized Health Care Today!
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: For this to be true ... others MUST be slaves, victims of theft and out and out raped so that 'everyone' has healthcare -- whatever that may entail. How so? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Say NO To Socialized Health Care Today!
-Caveat Lector- nessie wrote: Affluent people of all nations get better health care than the rest of us. This is an atrocity. Health care is a human right. MJ: How so? For this to be true ... others MUST be slaves, victims of theft and out and out raped so that 'everyone' has health care -- whatever that may entail. Do these other people that MUST provide these services get a say in lifestyle choices of their 'charities'? Regard$, --MJ A man receiving charity always hates his benefactor -- it is a fixed characteristic of human nature. -- George Orwell DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Say NO To Socialized Health Care Today!
-Caveat Lector- Well, you won't get your coronary bypass, nor often the necessary tests, such as anMRI, nor an expensive drug such as one that costs $2-3.00under the Canadian system. You won't them here either, or anything else, if you're one of the forty million with no coverage. Affluent Canadians come across the border for really complex care. Affluent people of all nations get better health care than the rest of us. This is an atrocity. Health care is a human right. On the other hand, expecting either the government OR the profit driven insurance industry to provide it is hopelessly nieve. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Say NO To Socialized Health Care Today!
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: "I think we need a national health program.." My God, man, why would you want to entrust such an important service to incompetent non-professionals? "My son has type one diabetes. Do you know how many insurance companies are interested in covering him? NONE." Current interference from the State has contibuted to this sad state of affairs for your son and others. Asking for more of the same is like giving alcohol to an alcoholic. "I do believe that a nation as sophisticated and enlightened as ours can do a better job in providing affordable care for ordinary citizens." A nation is merely a large number of individuals...this logic asks for some individuals to contribute to the care of others with the State as a middle-man...a prescription for serfdom. Let's, instead, advocate freeing health care professionals from the pernicious and parasitical overseers of the Plutocracy. Respectfully Yours, Robert Paul. [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] MYSTERY BALLOONS LAND IN JAPAN. BIOWAR ?
-Caveat Lector- Well, the last few weeks I have wantd everyone to fly balloons in protest of the Bilderbergs who meet in a few days. Now, if these balloons had only made it to Portugal.. Well.so somebody else got the same idea - however, I would like to see more in red, white, and blue to remind Herr Kissinger, Slobo Clinton, and Butcher Albright, that the USA Constitution is what they are supposed to supportKissinger in his self-appointed majesty, is now going to tell the USA how to run the government. Lets send up thousand sof these balloons; wish I knew who did those in Japan.too bad they came down so soon. It could have been a lot of fun, if they had made it to Portugal So if anyone out there likes balloons, and has connections over there.lets go fly some kites and balloons. Wonder if the Bilderbergs would shoot them down. Colleen Wonder if the Bilderbergs will change their meeting place - if it is so secret of a meeting, how do we all know about it. Did Ted Turner get bombed again and spill the beans DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] MYSTERY BALLOONS LAND IN JAPAN. BIOWAR ?
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:528628"MYSTERY BALLOONS LAND IN JAPAN. BIOWAR ? /A - Subject: MYSTERY BALLOONS LAND IN JAPAN. BIOWAR ? From: "Adam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Jun 1, 1999 2:46 AM Message-id: uLO43.11$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just seen 11.29 GMT 1/6/99. UK BBC 2 CEEFAX page 121 (sorry, no URL). MYSTERY BALLOONS BAFFLE JAPANESE POLICE Police are investigating a dozen giant balloons which have landed at different sites throughout western Japan. The balloons, measuring 20ft by 7ft, were discovered in Hiroshima, Shimane, Okayama and Hyogo, according to police, Attached to each is a timer inside a black box, and a cylindrical object. It is no known where they were flown from and what for because there was nothing written on then, said a Hiroshima police spokesman. Comment: Could there possibly be a connection with the AUM Yokohama proposed death penalty (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_357000/357188.stm ). I smell either a dire warning, or an impending bio-war attack. Tokyo underground part two? Comments anyone .. Adam. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.2/2
-Caveat Lector- In fact, a number of books, one by a professor at Florida State University, has proven your statement incorrect. There is more than ample proof that the death rate goes up when gun ownership Read More Guns, Less Crime by John R. Lott Jr. ISBN 0-226-49363-6. It'll open your eyes. Consider Table 5.4 on page 104. "Crime and county data on concealed-handgun permits: Pennsylvania counties with populations greater than 200,000" Percent of change in the crime rate due to a one percent change in then number of right-to-carry permits/population over 21 between 1988 and each year since the law was implimented: Violent crime: -5.3% Murder: -26.7% Rape: -5.7% Aggravated assault: -4.8% Robbery: 1.2% Property crime: -0.12% Auto theft: 1.5% Burglary: -1.4% Larceny: 0.7% Percent of change in the crime rate due to a one percent change in the arrest rate for the crime catagory: Violent crime: -0.79% Murder: -0.37% Rape: -0.08% Aggravated assault: -0.76% Robbery: -0.84% Property crime: -0.41% Auto theft: -0.065% Burglary: -1.1% Larceny: 0.13% That's one page. The book is 220 pages long. Read every one of 'em. Clearly an armed populace has a greater effect on crime than does an armed constabulary. What else does this tell us about the failure of our comparatively recent experiment with palming off the collective duty of every citizen, every human, to protect each other onto a tiny handful of corrupt, cowardly, mercenary goons who don't even do the job? After a century and a half of progressively increasing failure, it's time to learn waht the expiriment has to teach, call it quits and to go back to the tried and true way, armed citizens. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Say NO To Socialized Health Care Today!
-Caveat Lector- If health care is a "human right" who will you punish for denying that right? Then food and clothing , shelter, and chocolate cake should also be rights. Total socialism. Total dependency upon government. I should think you people would have learned by now that if the government has the power to grant all your wants and needs, it also has the power to take everything you have... What ever happened to self reliance? nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- Well, you won't get your coronary bypass, nor often the necessary tests, such as anMRI, nor an expensive drug such as one that costs $2-3.00under the Canadian system. You won't them here either, or anything else, if you're one of the forty million with no coverage. Affluent Canadians come across the border for really complex care. Affluent people of all nations get better health care than the rest of us. This is an atrocity. Health care is a human right. On the other hand, expecting either the government OR the profit driven insurance industry to provide it is hopelessly nieve. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] race, creed, color, religion, national origin, sex or economic status. [WOW!!]
-Caveat Lector- Socialist bastards and bitches continue their insidious program of dividing our Republic into combatant groups, all of whom suck on the federal taxpayer to further their respective agendas. Parents: Stop dumping your mistakes on Society's doorstep!! If you don't know how raise a child, you shouldn't have had one, or two, or three, or four. If you don't know how to raise a child, then keep your legs crossed. Why should the Taxpayers pay for your negligence??? (Santa Monica, California is better known as The People's DemocRatic [Socialist] Republic of Santa Monica, California.) --- Mother urges adding gays to hate crime law SANTA MONICA, June 1 Judy Shepard knows nothing will bring back her son, Matthew, who was beaten, tied to a wooden fence and left for dead on a remote Wyoming roadside because he was gay. She called on California lawmakers Tuesday to pass a bill that would protect gays from similar hate crimes at school, and spare parents from the pain she lives. AB 222, drafted by Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, would add sexual orientation to sections of the California Education Code that protect students from other forms of discrimination. The code now states that every student has the right to educational opportunity without regard to race, creed, color, religion, national origin, sex or economic status. The bill was defeated on the Assembly floor during its 1997-98 session. It is expected to be voted on in the Assembly sometime this week. It would then move to the state Senate. Shepards mother wrote that it is time for parents, legislators and community leaders to take the first steps toward protecting all of our children, as they strive each day to learn and grow. The letter is addressed to a Member of the California State Assembly. It was released by Kuehl. Whether the bullying is based on a childs disability, race, religion or sexual orientation, it is inexcusable. who spit anti-gay epithets at him, even as they beat him to death, she wrote. If legislation such as AB 222 had existed in my home state of Wyoming, perhaps these troubled young men would have learned a fundamental respect for all people. http://www.msnbc.com/local/knbc/171278.asp Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Say NO To Socialized Health Care Today!
-Caveat Lector- Both my grandmother and grandfather died of cancer back in the nineteen sixties... After the hospitalization, the doctors and the cobalt treatments.there was nothing left of my grandparents's savings. Fortunately, they died before they were penniless. I think we need a national health program...and the fact that wealthy Canadians come to the US to seek out specialists isn't a compelling argument when you consider that one out of three kids in the US lives in poverty...and health care for millions of children is an ongoing problem. My son has type one diabetes. Do you know how many insurance companies are interested in covering him? NONE. I don't believe that good health is a "right"but I do believe that a nation as sophisticated and enlightened as ours can do a better job in providing affordable care for ordinary citizens. On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- Well, you won't get your coronary bypass, nor often the necessary tests, such as anMRI, nor an expensive drug such as one that costs $2-3.00under the Canadian system. You won't them here either, or anything else, if you're one of the forty million with no coverage. Affluent Canadians come across the border for really complex care. Affluent people of all nations get better health care than the rest of us. This is an atrocity. Health care is a human right. On the other hand, expecting either the government OR the profit driven insurance industry to provide it is hopelessly nieve. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WILLIAM CARROLL QUIGLEY
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.tboyle.net/Catholicism/Carroll_Quigley.html A HREF="http://www.tboyle.net/Catholicism/Carroll_Quigley.html"Carroll_Quigley /A - Many links and embeds. Om K - WILLIAM CARROLL QUIGLEY November 9, 1910 - January 3, 1977 The January 6, 1977, obituary of Carroll Quigley published in The Washington Star, where for many years he wrote book reviews. ___ Carroll Quigley died in early January 1977. A few weeks later his long-time research assistant and personal friend, Miss Helen E. Veit, telephoned me to ask if I would be her lawyer for the probate of Quigley's last will and testament, which left to her all rights to his books, papers and research materials, but which Quigley's widow was intending to contest. Happily, a compromise between Lillian Quigley and Helen Veit was reached and a will contest avoided. Carroll Quigley's wishes were all honored. Someday I hope Carroll Quigley has an appropriate web site on the internet. I have a huge collection of his writings, as well as many tape recordings of his lectures. A very impressive "Carroll Quigley" site could be constructed. It amazes me how relevant many of Quigley's writings and lectures still are, more than twenty years after his death. Among Quigley's most valuable insights were those concerning education. Carroll Quigley was not only a natural-born "great" teacher; he was also a serious student of what it takes to be a "great" teacher. One of his essays having the most lasting value surely is his famous article "Is Georgetown University Committing 'Suicide'?" Listed below are the "Quigley Links" I have found on the internet. As one can see, many of the people still interested in Carroll Quigley seem to have taken entirely out of context the extensive references that he made in his book Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time to a high-level Anglophile conspiracy that he contended flourished before World War II and believe that Quigley thought this conspitacy has somehow continued to operate right up to our day. As, however, Dr.Quigley once told me, the reality is much scarier. Instead of a secret cabal now being in charge, no one is now in charge. We have instead a kind of chaos or anarchy. Fine Leather Binding of "Tragedy and Hope." (Richard Minsky) President Clinton's Mentor. (David Billington) Carroll Quigley: Insider Who Talked or Vatican Propagandist. (A-albionic Research) A Review of Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope. (James Martin) A Review of Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope. (Reggie Keith) An Introduction to Carroll Quigley. (John Dulaney) An Introduction to President Clinton's Political Mentor Carroll Quigley. ( ) Clinton, Quigley, and Conspiracy: What's going on here? (Olivier Schmidt) Philanthropists at War: President Clinton, CIA, Drugs and Power. (Daniel L. Brandt) Tragedy and Hope: The Global Elite. (Ruffin Prevost) Advertisement for 2 Audio Tapes (each 60 min. long) of an interview with Carroll Quigley. (Radio Liberty) Phyllis Schafly's Review of Carroll Quigley's Book Tragedy and Hope. (Phyllis Schafly) Carroll Quigley Listings in Public Information Research. ( ) Abstract of a Study of Carroll Quigley's Thought. (David Wilkinson) Click here to Send me a Message. Return to Georgetown University Page. Return to Catholicism Page. Return to TJB Home Page. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Political Control
-Caveat Lector- From www.hr.mprofaca/atpc1.html Long at site, "Abatract" provided only AN APPRAISAL OF THE TECHNOLOGY OF POLITICAL CONTROL ABSTRACT The objectives of this report are fourfold: (i) to provide Members of the European Parliament with a guide to recent advances in the technology of political control; (ii) to identify, analyse and describe the current state of the art of the most salient developments; (iii) to present members with an account of current trends, both in Europe and Worldwide; and (iv) to develop policy recommendations covering regulatory strategies for their management and future control. The report contains seven substantive sections which cover respectively: (i) The role and function of the technology of political control; (ii) Recent trends and innovations (including the implications of globalisation, militarisation of police equipment, convergence of control systems deployed worldwide and the implications of increasing technology and decision drift); (iii) Developments in surveillance technology (including the emergence of new forms of local, national and international communications interceptions networks and the creation of human recognition and tracking devices); (iv) Innovations in crowd control weapons (including the evolution of a 2nd. generation of so called 'less-lethal weapons' from nuclear labs in the USA). (v) The emergence of prisoner control as a privatised industry, whilst state prisons face increasing pressure to substitute technology for staff in cost cutting exercises and the social and political implications of replacing policies of rehabilitation with strategies of human warehousing. (v) The use of science and technology to devise new efficient mark-free interrogation and torture technologies and their proliferation from the US Europe. (vi) The implications of vertical and horizontal proliferation of this technology and the need for an adequate political response by the EU, to ensure it neither threatens civil liberties in Europe, nor reaches the hands of tyrants. The report makes a series of policy recommendations including the need for appropriate codes of practice. It ends by proposing specific areas where further research is needed to make such regulatory controls effective. The report includes a comprehensive bibliographical survey of some of the most relevant literature. AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Polymath
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.angelfire.com/fl/polymathsociety/whatis.html (Etymology: Greek polymathEs very learned, from poly- + manthanein to learn) The dictionary definition of a polymath is a very learned person, of encyclopedic knowledge. There is also the connotation of having an understanding deeper than that found in an encyclopedia, that is, an expert in many fields. Anyone can be a polymath as long as he or she has the right motivation. A polymath is not necessarily a brain. In fact, a polymath usually does not think of his or herself as being particularly smart, only curious. Curiosity and interest are the true motivation for work, both intellectual work and the nitty gritty of hands on inventing. Thomas Edison said that genius is 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration. He had a passion for getting his hands dirty, for tinkering, for inventing through trial and error. The polymath makes lots of mistakes. This is how new sciences are created. The brain requires constant exercise and continues to develop throughout life, save for disease and abuse. The polymath tries to exercises all parts of the brain. It is more than just acquiring general knowledge, not esse ntially memorization although some ability to remember is required. The polymath seeks to develop a highly tuned mental processing unit (MPU), which is really the computer everyone should be most concerned with. The polym ath strives to preserve consciousness. It is the mind in control of emotions, but also the genuine integration of feelings and sensibilities with thought, so the polymath is also a poet, a composer, an artist, or a noveli st perhaps. In the heart of the true visionary lies a realm of reality known only to those who share in the dream. To these souls, the spirit of said adventure lives on. The Guides of Old have breathed life into what was once only a fantasy and now exists in the minds of the true seekers of enlightenment: Those parties who wish to transcend the normal, go beyond the ordinary, stretch the linear experience. For those brave pilgrims, there is another place, a real place, open only to those with the open minds capable of viewing the vivid valley where knowledge and its inate beauty is shared, where all physical distinctions are erased and no gender, race or disabilities exist. Where air and fire can swirl about to spark a new model - a finer, higher existence - based on truthful self knowledge, shared intelligence and the advancement of both science and the arts. Welcome to the Polymath Society International! AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nato promised 'hell' in Kosovo - The Bilderberg conspiracy . . .
-Caveat Lector- from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/monitoring/newsid_356000/356832.stm A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/monitoring/newsid_356000/356832.s tm"BBC News | Monitoring | Nato promised 'hell' in /A - Sunday, May 30, 1999 Published at 23:17 GMT 00:17 UK Nato promised 'hell' in Kosovo Serbian media have reported fresh defiance by the military in Kosovo while Nato steps up psychological pressure on the troops on the ground. Serbian TV reported an interview with the head of the Yugoslav Army in Kosovo, Col-Gen Nebojsa Pavkovic, promising Nato ground forces "real hell" in the event of an invasion. "Should Nato decide to carry out a ground invasion, its soldiers will go through real hell every step of the way," Col-Gen Pavkovic told the defence magazine `Vojska'. Despite two months of bombardment, Serbian troops were still a force to be reckoned with, having preserved men and equipment and a "favourable operational deployment of ground units" using "various tactical moves and actions". "We would soon stand face to face on the terrain which we know extremely well and which we have prepared well to defend. "The enemy's technological and technical advantage would start to diminish in the first days of any invasion." Col-Gen Pavkovic added, while the troops were ready for battle they were also prepared to implement any "peace and other initiatives" from Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic. 'B-52s will be after you' The Serbian news agency Beta reported Nato aircraft had dropped leaflets over the Kosovo capital Pristina urging Serbian troops to desert their units and leave or face bombardment by B-52 bombers. Nato says its leaflets are designed to domoralise Yugoslav troopsTwo B-52s flew over the city at high altitude as the leaflets were dropped. "The Yugoslav Army forces are warned to leave Kosovo, because Nato is now using B-52 bombers to cast MK-82 bombs, weighing 225 kilograms each," one of the leaflets read. "Every B-52 bomber can carry more than 50 such bombs. These aircraft will be after you until they drive you out of Kosovo... and prevent you from committing atrocities. "If you want to survive and see your families again, you should abandon your units and firearms." The leaflets warned that "thousands" of bombs would be dropped on Serbian forces. The Bilderberg conspiracy An article in Vojska reports that Western politicians ranging from the queen of Spain to Margaret Thatcher produced a blueprint for a "Balkan Vietnam" at a meeting in Scotland in 1996. Spain's Queen Sofia (left): Key member of the Bilderburg Group?The "Bilderberg Group" decided to push for the arrest of "war criminals from among the Serbs" using the Hague war crimes tribunal as its tool, in order to provoke a war with Russia, the article, quoted by the Yugoslav state news agency Tanjug, said. "The Bilderberg Group is obviously a self-styled world supra-government which is earning billions of dollars thanks to crises and wars it, itself, is provoking." The article named as group members Queen Sofia of Spain, Margaret Thatcher, Helmut Kohl, Valery Giscard D'Estaing, Lord Peter Carrington, Lord Owen, Henry Kissinger, Giovanni Agnelli, David Rockefeller and Baron Rothschild. Vojska quoted as its source of information "a thorough investigation conducted by independent US journalists". Yugoslav lawyers eye damages claim Tanjug has reported that the country's top law organizations have demanded compensation from Nato for the damage caused by its campaign. "The persons who destroyed Yugoslavia are obliged under international law to compensate for all forms of damage incurred," a two-day seminar by the Serbian Bar Association and the Yugoslav Association for Criminal Law and Criminology concluded. Russian and Greek lawyers also attended the seminar in Belgrade's Hall of Justice. Tourist season opens in Montenegro Montenegrin TV has reported the arrival of its first tourists this summer.# A couple of hundred holiday-makers from the Serbian part of Sarajevo have checked into the Dolphin Hotel in the resort town of Bijela and the TV showed the youngsters splashing in the sea and tanning on the beach. With Montenegrin radio reporting NATO air raids on the coastal towns of Tivat and Herceg-Novi this weekend, one of the Sarajevo teachers was asked if his group was not concerned. "It's nothing new," he told the TV. BBC Monitoring (http://www.monitor.bbc.co.uk), based in Caversham in southern England, selects and translates information from radio, television, press, news agencies and the Internet from 150 countries in more than 70 languages. ©The BBC DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and
Re: [CTRL] Say NO To Socialized Health Care Today!
-Caveat Lector- In other words, you want your neighbors [taxpayers] to pay your medical bills. If health care become free to the applicant, he will have unlimited demands for it. This will bankrupt ANY system of care. The problem is that socializing medical care always greatly increases the cost of care. I say return to the fair market system. I used to spend a day and a half every week, back in the sixties and seventies, giving my services at the county hospital without pay. The costs were modest, and the quality was good. But it was not an open ended system in which the amount of care was decided upon by hypochondriacal patients, government bureaucrats, or insurance companies. It was given to patients according to the need, decided by conscientious physicians, and it was successful in providing good care to those who could not afford private care. This is called a two tier system, in which there is no incentive for third parties to exploit the system by limiting quality of care in order to make money, nor for patients to overuse the system, as is the case today. doc ~ William Hugh Tunstall wrote: -Caveat Lector- Both my grandmother and grandfather died of cancer back in the nineteen sixties... After the hospitalization, the doctors and the cobalt treatments.there was nothing left of my grandparents's savings. Fortunately, they died before they were penniless. I think we need a national health program...and the fact that wealthy Canadians come to the US to seek out specialists isn't a compelling argument when you consider that one out of three kids in the US lives in poverty...and health care for millions of children is an ongoing problem. My son has type one diabetes. Do you know how many insurance companies are interested in covering him? NONE. I don't believe that good health is a "right"but I do believe that a nation as sophisticated and enlightened as ours can do a better job in providing affordable care for ordinary citizens. On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- Well, you won't get your coronary bypass, nor often the necessary tests, such as anMRI, nor an expensive drug such as one that costs $2-3.00under the Canadian system. You won't them here either, or anything else, if you're one of the forty million with no coverage. Affluent Canadians come across the border for really complex care. Affluent people of all nations get better health care than the rest of us. This is an atrocity. Health care is a human right. On the other hand, expecting either the government OR the profit driven insurance industry to provide it is hopelessly nieve. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER
[CTRL] RE: [prj] race, creed, color, religion, national origin, sex or economic status. [WOW!!]
-Caveat Lector- Hugh, As more responsible young Parents learn of the success of homeschooling, then the "average daily attendance" (ADA) funds for the respective poor and criminalized school districts will gradually dry up, then the unionized socialist bastards and bitches will have start seeking "gainful" employment elsewhere. That's known as 'free enterprise'. Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -Original Message- From: Hugh Mathena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 3:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [prj] race, creed, color, religion, national origin, sex or economic status. [WOW!!] I just love it when someone posts to the list preaching to the choir or saying something that really doesn't need to be said... As an aside to all you who don't like what's going on in the schools or anywhere else is to get off your santified asses and get down there en masse and protest and then take the schools or whatever over. That's exactly what the liberal activists have done over the past 30 years in case none of you figured it out yet... From: "Peter L. Sroufe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Snetnews" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: "Conservative" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"Conspiracy Theory Research List" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"MilitiaNet" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Patriots" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"New Paradigms" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"SonsofLiberty" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"Wings of Liberty" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [prj] race, creed, color, religion, national origin, sex or economic status. [WOW!!] Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:11:06 -0700 YOUR PERSONAL POST OFFICE...TRY IT FREE FOR 90 DAYS! It's like having your own post office, right in your home. No more tripsto buy stamps. Meter refills itself. Save up to 20% on postage. Try it free for 90 days. Click here! http://a-albionic.com/postoffice.html * ** END Socialist bastards and bitches continue their insidious program of dividing our Republic into combatant groups, all of whom suck on the federal taxpayer to further their respective agendas. Parents: Stop dumping your mistakes on Society's doorstep!! If you don't know how raise a child, you shouldn't have had one, or two, or three, or four. If you don't know how to raise a child, then keep your legs crossed. Why should the Taxpayers pay for your negligence??? (Santa Monica, California is better known as The People's DemocRatic [Socialist] Republic of Santa Monica, California.) --- Mother urges adding gays to hate crime law SANTA MONICA, June 1 Judy Shepard knows nothing will bring back her son, Matthew, who was beaten, tied to a wooden fence and left for dead on a remote Wyoming roadside because he was gay. She called on California lawmakers Tuesday to pass a bill that would protect gays from similar hate crimes at school, and spare parents from the pain she lives. AB 222, drafted by Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, would add sexual orientation to sections of the California Education Code that protect students from other forms of discrimination. The code now states that every student has the right to educational opportunity without regard to race, creed, color, religion, national origin, sex or economic status. The bill was defeated on the Assembly floor during its 1997-98 session. It is expected to be voted on in the Assembly sometime this week. It would then move to the state Senate. Shepards mother wrote that it is time for parents, legislators and community leaders to take the first steps toward protecting all of our children, as they strive each day to learn and grow. The letter is addressed to a Member of the California State Assembly. It was released by Kuehl. Whether the bullying is based on a childs disability, race, religion or sexual orientation, it is inexcusable. who spit anti-gay epithets at him, even as they beat him to death, she wrote. If legislation such as AB 222 had existed in my home state of Wyoming, perhaps these troubled young men would have learned a fundamental respect for all people. http://www.msnbc.com/local/knbc/171278.asp Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: .a benefit/subsidy protection racket! A Growing Selection of A-albionic's Books Can Be Browsed and Purchased Conveniently in the Shopping Cart at
[CTRL] Chicken Droop
-Caveat Lector- From www.theherald.co.uk/news/ Doctors lobby for smokers' droop warning ALAN MacDERMID, Medical Correspondent CIGARETTE packets may soon have to carry a warning that male smokers risk flopping in bed. Up to 120,000 men aged 30 to 49 have rendered themselves impotent through smoking, the British Medical Association and Action on Smoking and Health said yesterday. Both groups are lobbying the UK Government and the European Commission to have impotence and impaired fertility added to the list of compulsory health warnings carried on tobacco packaging and advertising. They hope the idea that a cigarette drooping from the lips could lead to a droop elsewhere might carry more weight with young men than fears of heart disease and cancer many years ahead. The link between smoking and impotence is well established - it damages the blood vessels of the penis in much the same way it does the rest of the vascular system. But a MORI poll conducted for Ash showed that 88% of smokers failed to make the connection - in Scotland the proportion was 91%. Some of the damage will be permanent, but smoking-related impotence is not one of the disorders which render sufferers eligible for Viagra on the NHS. Ms Maureen Moore, chief executive of Ash Scotland, said: "There is an obvious and urgent need for education campaigns focusing on men's sexual health and tobacco use. We will be writing to the Health Education Board for Scotland to encourage them to address this gap." In a report, Smoking and Erectile Dysfunction in Men, the two organisations say smoking increases the risk of impotence by around 50% for men in their 30s and 40s. It also damages sperm. Dr Bill O'Neill, tobacco adviser to the BMA, said: "I think a stark warning on cigarette packets could really play an important part in motivating male smokers to give up cigarettes. Young men are notoriously resistant to health warnings and think they will have given up smoking long before cancer or heart disease catches up with them. But the prospect that they could also wreck their sex lives might just make them stop and think." Mr Clive Bates, director of Ash, said: "We reckon there are lots of men who would prefer to give up smoking rather than risk losing something as precious as their erection. But it appears that most smokers are unaware of the risk, and that's why we think new warnings are needed. "Impotence may not be as serious as cancer or heart disease, but it might be a more important and immediate reason for men in their twenties to quit smoking. It's also a reality check on all the style, sex and glamour that is supposed to be associated with smoking. Despite the hype about cigarettes, the truth is sad, embarrassing and banal." - June 2 Belgian chicken ban starts new food scare RORY WATSON, European Correspondent EUROPEAN consumers are facing another food scare after the Belgian government yesterday ordered the country's wholesalers not to sell any items containing egg or chicken ingredients. The ban ranges from basic foodstuffs such as pasta, biscuits, and pastries, to luxury items like paté and Belgian chocolates. The decision follows an earlier move on Friday, when supermarkets were asked to clear home-produced chickens and eggs from their shelves after scientific tests found poultry from more than 400 farms in Belgium contained high levels of dioxin after being given contaminated feed. Although officials refused to make any comparison with the BSE crisis on the consequences for human health, there are fears if dioxin is consumed in sufficient quantities over a long period it can cause cancer. The Ghent-based company at the centre of the dioxin scare sold contaminated feed, suspected of containing motor oil, to France, Germany, and the Netherlands. In addition, Belgium has been gradually expanding export markets for its niche luxury foodstuffs. Senior scientists from across the European Union will decide in Brussels today whether to insist the ban be applied more widely Strathclyde East MEP Ken Collins, the outgoing chairman of the European Parliament's environment committee, demanded an immediate sales ban across Europe. He insisted the search for contaminated products should be "tracked down to the last chocolate" and called on the EU's consumer protection department to "swing into action immediately and be in there inspecting the inspectors in Belgium". As far back as January, the authorities began to notice hundred of chickens were falling ill. However, the source of the sickness - the contaminated feed - was not identified until the end of April and it was only this week that the Commission, which could have alerted governments around Europe, was notified. "If a member state has a problem, it should notify the Commission immediately and it can then notify other countries. That is European law," said a spokesman. The impact on the Belgian poultry industry is as devastating as it was when the former
Re: [CTRL] NATO against Germany
-Caveat Lector- Rather than the below remarks, I would state: 1. The US cannot rule Europe and Germany without control of NATO and a Russian threat. 2. The current Balkan War serves the German-Vatican-Islamic axis interests vs the Orthodox Slavic forces and maintenance of US power in Europe. However, if NATO is perceived to "loose" NATO could be disolved or radically transformed to a German lead European force [exit the US], the basis for a new Holy Roman Empire with ravenous eyes toward the East. Lloyd Miller, A-albionic Research -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 5:33 PM Subject: NATO against Germany Subj: Re: A NATO TO CONTROL GERMANY Date: 5/22/99 1:44:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anti-Censorship News Agency) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From : Guillermo Coletti P.O. Box 61221 Pasadena CA 91106 USA May 22, 1999 The following piece contains information crucial to the improvement of our understanding of the current war of aggression against the Serbs and the former and on-going hostilities against the German people. Help me propagate this article. Forward it to friends, journalists, like- minded people, post it in your website, etc. Many thanks. A NATO TO CONTROL GERMANY by Guillermo Coletti Send your comments to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have often considered writing about the real purpose of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization as I see it, however, lack of means to substantiate a number of my suspicions was a major reason of discouragement. Now I have something at my disposal that can help me break the ice: an American General speaks candidly on the real reasons for the existence of NATO. What he has to say is quite interesting for the uninitiated as well as for the irreverent and the perennial skeptic. I will use this opportunity to explain some of my initial ideas on this matter. Adolf Hitler, along with Mussolini, and other European leaders, was involved in an extraordinary effort to eradicate the threat of Bolshevik tyranny from Europe. The stability of the governments they led was threatened via the USA as much, or perhaps more, than any danger that could have originated in Moscow. When Hitler's defense of Europe was forced into the military alternative the Unites States made an alliance with Stalin. That to me was an indication that America was becoming friendlier to Communism than to the values of traditional Europe. We know that American intervention resulted in a greater and stronger Soviet Russia. The Communists have indeed a debt of gratitude to America for the expansion of Bolshevism. But when the Second World War was over America "agitated" the anti-Communist cause and formed NATO! Why NATO? It all sounded very phony to me because if America had truly stood against Bolshevism it should have joined Hitler, Mussolini and Franco, instead of Josef Stalin. Yet, America never admitted to have fought ont he wrong side. I can't help but asking myself when was NATO a real problem for the stability of Soviet Communism? Certainly not when Russian tanks and the Red Army occupied the streets of Prague, or Budapest. The anti- Communism of the American Establishment was always been as serious as an Abbot and Costello movie. America's true concern was what Germany represented and what to this day survives in the German. Ellie Wiesel expressed similar sentiments when he advocated that every Jew must have some room in his heart for hatred against the Germans. The difference between Wiesel and non-Jews Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Eisenhower is that Wiesel expressed his emotions with sincerity. The real threat to the American Way, the America of the Gay Pride Parades and Martin Luther King Day, was not Bolshevism but the Traditional Western values that Germany tried to maintain at the expense of a multitude of sacrifices. On April 24, 1999, NBC aired John McLaughlin's "One on One." The show had the participation of two guests: Lieutenant General William Odom and Professor Harvey Sapolsky. We are going to review some of the remarks made by General Odom. General Odom was introduced as a graduate from West Point who obtained his PhD at Columbia. He served in President Carter's National Security Council and during President Reagan's administration in the Office of the Army Chief of Staff for intelligence and for the director of Reagan's National Security Agency. He is currently director of International Security Studies at the Hudson Institute and professor of Public Policy and Organization in the Department of Political Science at the prestigious Massachussetts Institute of Technology, where he is also the Director of the Security Program. Gen. Odom authored six books, the latest of which is "The Collapse of Soviet Military." What I have suspected as the real purpose of NATO was disclosed, much to my surprise, right at
[CTRL] Russians letter to Editor
-Caveat Lector- From: Ginny Monteen (by way of Sandi Brockway / Macrocosm USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Russians write Letter to Editor at Wash. Post Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:12 PM The following Letter to the Editor from Viktor Chernomyrdin, Russian envoy and mediator between Belgrade and NATO, ran in the Washington Post May 27. The wording was so strong, the Post didn't believe it was authentic. They checked; it was. When are U.S./NATO going to get it? What does it take to wake up our government? Threat of nuclear war? Well, now we've got that . 'Impossible to Talk Peace With Bombs Falling' By Viktor Chernomyrdin Thursday, May 27, 1999; Page A39 I deem it necessary to express my opinion on the Kosovo situation as the warfare escalates and the danger grows of a shift to ground operations, which would be even bloodier and more destructive. I also want to comment on certain ideas put forward by President Clinton in his contribution of May 16 to the New York Times. In particular, I am anxious to express my opinion of his premise that "Russia is now helping to work out a way for Belgrade to meet our conditions," and that NATO's strategy can "strengthen, not weaken, our fundamental interest in a long-term, positive relationship with Russia." In fact, Russia has taken upon itself to mediate between Belgrade and NATO not because it is eager to help NATO implement its strategies, which aim at Slobodan Milosevic's capitulation and the de facto establishment of a NATO protectorate over Kosovo. These NATO goals run counter to Russia's stance, which calls for the introduction of U.N. forces into Kosovo with Yugoslavia's sovereignty and territorial integrity intact. Moreover, the new NATO strategy, the first practical instance of which we are witnessing in Yugoslavia, has led to a serious deterioration in Russia-U.S. contacts. I will be so bold as to say it has set them back by several decades. Recent opinion polls back this up. Before the air raids, 57 percent of Russians were positively disposed toward the United States, with 28 percent hostile. The raids reversed those numbers to 14 percent positive and 72 percent negative. Sixty-three percent of Russians blame NATO for unleashing the conflict, while only 6 percent blame Yugoslavia. These attitudes result not so much from so-called Slavic fraternity as because a sovereign country is being bombed -- with bombing seen as a way to resolve a domestic conflict. This approach clashes with international law, the Helsinki agreements and the entire world order that took shape after World War II. The damage done by the Yugoslavia war to Russian-U.S. relations is nowhere greater than on the moral plane. During the years of reform, a majority of Russians formed a view of the United States as a genuine democracy, truly concerned about human rights, offering a universal standard worthy of emulation. But just as Soviet tanks trampling on the Prague Spring of 1968 finally shattered the myth of the socialist regime's merits, so the United States lost its moral right to be regarded as a leader of the free democratic world when its bombs shattered the ideals of liberty and democracy in Yugoslavia. We can only regret that it is feeding the arguments of Communists and radical nationalists, who have always viewed NATO as aggressive, have demanded skyrocketing defense expenditures and have backed isolationist policies for Russia. Now that raids against military targets have evidently proven pointless, NATO's armed force has moved to massive destruction of civilian infrastructure -- in particular, electric transmission lines, water pipes and factories. Are thousands of innocent people to be killed because of one man's blunders? Is an entire country to be razed? Is one to assume that air raids can win a war? I should like here to turn to the lessons of recent history. The U.S. Air Force and the RAF dropped several hundred thousand bombs on Berlin, yet it took a Soviet Army offensive, with its toll of several hundred thousand lives, to seize the city. American air raids in Vietnam proved pointless, and the Russian Army suffered setbacks in Chechnya. Serbs see NATO and the Americans as aggressors against whom they are defending their native land. I do not think a ground war will be a success, and I am sure it will bring tremendous bloodshed. Further, it will no longer be possible to thwart the proliferation of missiles and nuclear arms -- another negative consequence of NATO's policy. Even the smallest of independent states will seek nuclear weapons and delivery vehicles to defend themselves after they see NATO's military machine in action. The danger of global instability looms, with more new wars and more victims. More bombing makes it pointless to plan a return of refugees. What will they come back to -- homes in
[CTRL] Bionomics
-Caveat Lector- From www.bionomics.org Bionomics 101 by Michael Rothschild This article appeared in Upside (May 1992). -- -- Bionomics is a fundamentally new way of thinking about the economy. Several questions about the basic tenets of bionomics keep coming up, so I'll try to provide some succinct answers. How does Bionomics differ from conventional economics? To begin with, all traditional schools of economics are based on the concepts of classical physics, while bionomics is based on the principles of evolutionary biology. Isaac Newton described the universe as a perfectly predictable clockwork mechanism. And orthodox economics describes the "economy as a machine." Everyday, we hear about "jump-starting" or "fine-tuning" the "economic engine." We're told that the "economy is losing steam" or that the government needs to repair a failed "market mechanism." Like Charlie Chaplin in Modern Times, deep down we imagine ourselves as cogs in a vast, invisible economic machine. Bionomics rejects "economy as machine" thinking? Absolutely. Instead, Bionomics says that an economy is like an "evolving ecosystem." A modern market economy is like a tropical rainforest, populated by vast numbers of highly specialized organizations instead of highly specialized organisms. They're all linked together in an incredibly complex web of competitive and cooperative relationships. Each company works to survive in its market niche just as each individual organism works to survive in its ecologic niche. How does the economy evolve? All living things evolve. Over time, they become more complex, specialized and efficient. In nature, this happens when genetic code, the information recorded in the DNA molecule, undergoes mutation and natural selection. Biological evolution creates new species. Similarly, in our economic ecosystem, technological information recorded in books, databases, technical manuals, source code, and blueprints is altered by innovation and market competition. Technologic evolution creates new industries. Are you saying that the economy runs itself? For the most part, yes. Remember, even though the tropical rainforest is the most complex thing on the planet, nobody designed it and nobody runs it. Truly complex phenomena cannot be planned, they emerge spontaneously. They self-organize. Bionomics argues that the market economy is just such a process. No one planned the market economy and nobody's in charge of it. Bionomics holds that capitalism is not an ism. It is not a belief system, like socialism. Instead, the market economy, like a tropical rainforest, is the product of a naturally occurring, spontaneous evolutionary process. How do Bionomics and conventional economics differ on the process of technological change? I know this is hard for non-economists to believe, but orthodox economics essentially ignores technological change. The first rule of economic modelling is "Assume technology holds constant." Once you make that assumption, you can make predictions; like a 1% rise in GNP will increase car sales by 1 million units and that steel production will rise by Y tons because the average car uses 1000 pounds of steel. It's all neat and tidy input/output tables. But once you allow technological change into the model, you've got unpredicatble complexity. For example, even as GNP rises, changes in travel patterns like telecomuting and air travel whittle away at automobile demand. Car makers keep substituting more and more aluminum and plastic for steel. Across the economy, new technologies keep changing the relative value of alternatives. In reality, all the input/output ratios are fluid and dynamic. Precise predictions become impossible. But rather than admit that, orthodox economists choose to ignore technological change. Bionomics, by contrast, pays primary attention to technological evolution. Does Bionomics reach different economic policy conclusions than orthodox economics? Yes, of course, and there is a consistent pattern to these differences. If you believe that the "economy is a predictable machine," then you logically assume that the government ought plan, control, manipulate, and repair that machine. There is a built-in bias toward intervention. If, on the other hand, you believe the economy is a like a rainforest, you'd be very cautious about intervening. You'd be "ecologically sensitive," careful not to damage the bionomic ecosystem. You wouldn't send the Army Corps of Engineers in to "fix" the Amazon rainforest, and you wouldn't use industrial policy to "fix" our high-tech economy. Does that mean no role for government? No, that's impossible. But instead of distorting and abusing the economy by constantly tinkering with subsidies, taxes, regulations, our government ought create a stable policy climate that cultivates spontaneous technical evolution and economic growth. The tragedy of machine thinking is
Re: [CTRL] Russians letter to Editor
-Caveat Lector- If Clinton, his mob, and his constituency are going to ignore Chernomyrdin's warning about the very great threat of nuclear war in the near future, then we ARE in deep ,deep trouble. I would have to conclude that the prime reason that Clinton and NATO are bombing the Russians' cousins in Serbia and Kosovo IS TO GOAD RUSSIA INTO NUCLEAR RETALIATION! Why would they do this?? Well, my friends, it is a prime part of the Globalist plan to depopulate America. That means to KILL most of the American people who have always been the major obstacle in setting up the One World government. Get it? Doc ~ David Crockett Williams wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: Ginny Monteen (by way of Sandi Brockway / Macrocosm USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Russians write Letter to Editor at Wash. Post Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:12 PM The following Letter to the Editor from Viktor Chernomyrdin, Russian envoy and mediator between Belgrade and NATO, ran in the Washington Post May 27. The wording was so strong, the Post didn't believe it was authentic. They checked; it was. When are U.S./NATO going to get it? What does it take to wake up our government? Threat of nuclear war? Well, now we've got that . 'Impossible to Talk Peace With Bombs Falling' By Viktor Chernomyrdin Thursday, May 27, 1999; Page A39 I deem it necessary to express my opinion on the Kosovo situation as the warfare escalates and the danger grows of a shift to ground operations, which would be even bloodier and more destructive. I also want to comment on certain ideas put forward by President Clinton in his contribution of May 16 to the New York Times. In particular, I am anxious to express my opinion of his premise that "Russia is now helping to work out a way for Belgrade to meet our conditions," and that NATO's strategy can "strengthen, not weaken, our fundamental interest in a long-term, positive relationship with Russia." In fact, Russia has taken upon itself to mediate between Belgrade and NATO not because it is eager to help NATO implement its strategies, which aim at Slobodan Milosevic's capitulation and the de facto establishment of a NATO protectorate over Kosovo. These NATO goals run counter to Russia's stance, which calls for the introduction of U.N. forces into Kosovo with Yugoslavia's sovereignty and territorial integrity intact. Moreover, the new NATO strategy, the first practical instance of which we are witnessing in Yugoslavia, has led to a serious deterioration in Russia-U.S. contacts. I will be so bold as to say it has set them back by several decades. Recent opinion polls back this up. Before the air raids, 57 percent of Russians were positively disposed toward the United States, with 28 percent hostile. The raids reversed those numbers to 14 percent positive and 72 percent negative. Sixty-three percent of Russians blame NATO for unleashing the conflict, while only 6 percent blame Yugoslavia. These attitudes result not so much from so-called Slavic fraternity as because a sovereign country is being bombed -- with bombing seen as a way to resolve a domestic conflict. This approach clashes with international law, the Helsinki agreements and the entire world order that took shape after World War II. The damage done by the Yugoslavia war to Russian-U.S. relations is nowhere greater than on the moral plane. During the years of reform, a majority of Russians formed a view of the United States as a genuine democracy, truly concerned about human rights, offering a universal standard worthy of emulation. But just as Soviet tanks trampling on the Prague Spring of 1968 finally shattered the myth of the socialist regime's merits, so the United States lost its moral right to be regarded as a leader of the free democratic world when its bombs shattered the ideals of liberty and democracy in Yugoslavia. We can only regret that it is feeding the arguments of Communists and radical nationalists, who have always viewed NATO as aggressive, have demanded skyrocketing defense expenditures and have backed isolationist policies for Russia. Now that raids against military targets have evidently proven pointless, NATO's armed force has moved to massive destruction of civilian infrastructure -- in particular, electric transmission lines, water pipes and factories. Are thousands of innocent people to be killed because of one man's blunders? Is an entire country to be razed? Is one to assume that air raids can win a war? I should like here to turn to the lessons of recent history. The U.S. Air Force and the RAF dropped several hundred thousand bombs on Berlin, yet it took a Soviet Army offensive, with its toll of several hundred thousand lives, to seize the city. American air raids in Vietnam proved
[CTRL] Plots of Fakery
-Caveat Lector- From www.foreignpolicy.com/bookspage.htm Via www.cybereditions.com/aldaily/ Les faux complots dHouphouët-Boigny The Fake Plots of Houphouët-Boigny by Samba Diarra 248 pages, Paris: Karthala, 1997 (in French) Reviewed by Howard W. French Almost from the moment in the early 1950s when they emerged as the preeminent indigenous political leaders of Côte dIvoire and the Gold Coast (now Ghana), Felix Houphouët-Boigny and Kwame Nkrumah have often been linked in the minds of historians and of the people of their region. Their determined rivalry was captured in one of the most famous episodes of their era: the public wager they made in 1957 over whose approach to leadership Nkrumahs socialist-oriented Pan- African nationalism or Houphouët-Boignys eager alignment with the capitalist West would create the more prosperous and influential nation. Their bet was to have been decided in only 10 years time, but Nkrumah could not stay the course. In 1966, he was overthrown. Nkrumah died in exile in Bucharest in 1972. Houphouët-Boigny, for his part, continued ruling his country until his death in 1993. Even so, Nkrumah today remains an icon of an enduring grassroots attachment to ideals of African unity and self-reliance, while outside of Francophone Africa, mention of Houphouët-Boigny, who built his regions most prosperous and stable state, stirs few memories. Nkrumah famously enjoined Africans to Seek ye first the political kingdom, promising that they wo uld receive all manner of dividends from sovereign control of the continents vast wealth. But it w as Houphouët-Boigny who actually devised the model that generations of African autocrats have copied to secure power. It is precisely this latter story that most impresses the reader of Samba Diarras book, The Fake P lots of Houphouët-Boigny, a political prisonerseye view of the dark side of a leader who is celeb rated in national myth and was much lauded in the Westas a benign nation builder, model of moderation, and man of peace. With a minimum of emotion, Diarra recounts how, from the earliest days of his rule, Houphouët-Boign y warded off potential challenges to his authority through a cunning strategy of intimidation. As the president saw it, kn own foes were easy to deal with, whether by arrest, execution, or banishment. The trickier task was conjuring a steady str eam of traitors, whose punishmentand usually, eventual pardonwould keep his new nation in awe of him and preemptively terrify anyone from questioning his power. Setting a pattern followed by Nigerias late General Sani Abacha, the Democratic Republic of Congo s Laurent Kabila, and a legion of other African dictators, the president focused his paranoid energ ies on many of his clos est collaborators. One of Houphouët-Boignys earliest and most surprising victims was Jean-Baptiste Mockey, his loyal number-two figure during the last years of French rule and, significantly, one o f the few colleagues wh ose courageous role in the independence movement might have cast shadows over Houphouët-Boignys pr oject to make himself his nations quasi-mythic father. Mockey, who eventually died in a suspicious car accident, was put away for several years because of the so-called Black Cat Plot, in which he was accused of planting the head of a cat whose mouth had been stuffed with the tip of a bulls horn in the luggage of Hou phouët-Boignys wife. T he curse, it was publicly alleged, was intended to render Houphouët-Boigny impotent and eventually kill him. Houphouët-Boigny distinguished himself from many of his African presidential peers by investing hea vily in overseas higher education right from the start of his rule. But there was a high price to b e paid by that first ge neration of graduates, who were frequently jailed on wholly invented charges when they returned hom ethe better to disabuse them of any ideas they might have had of enjoying power. Diarra himself wa s imprisoned for four y ears in 1963 for his supposed participation in one of a series of plots involving the first great w ave of students returning from university training in France to become the new administrative and p olitical élite of an in fant nation. Many survivors, once rehabilitated, went on to become trusted lieutenantsindeed, ardent champions of Houphouët-Boignys rule, capable of giving speeches to the effect that from the time of his infa ncy, as one put it, the nonpareil president had been first in everything. Those individuals deemed less cooperative were harshly condemned in show trials or tirelessly humil iated, whether through beatings in front of visiting African heads of state or warnings to their wi ves that they should ta ke other husbands because their current ones were unlikely to be of much use after release from the political prison of Assabou. The most famous victim of this type of treatment was Ernest Boka, the first president of
Re: [CTRL] Nato:There is always a cost to defeat an evil.[was Waco an evil?]
-Caveat Lector- Last night I had an opportunity to listen to a local radio talk program hosted by an individual who claims to be a "libertarian." Since he's a new host for the show, the regular callers were interested in his opinion on Kosovo. Strangely, this self-proclaimed "libertarian" was championing the government's policy in Kosovo I thought that this was a rather peculiar position coming from someone who claims to espouse libertarian ideals. Then, as he elaborated his position, it became clear. The war is "good" because Serbia has refused to practice "free trade." You see, if a nation insists on its right to have an economic system that is different from the "free trade system" championed by the New World Order, then, according to the host's logic, Yugoslavia's "illogical" insistence on not practicing "free trade" and signing onto the EU agenda means that its regime (and its people) should be punished. Punishment, I guess, means "humanitarian bombing." But the "libertarian" host continued to make an astonishing statement. He told his listening audience (for the most part, conservative Republicans) that a world government is not a bad thing at all. Why? Because the world government would usher in what he believed to be a libertarian utopia: businesses will dominate and control global populations...local governments will be abolishedwe will all be part of one big happy economic trading system (presumably, led by the wise men of capital)...and in this "libertarian" paradise, the rich will get richer, and the poor will be justly punished. Surprisingly, not one of the usually contentious "conservative" telephone callers seemed interested in challenging him. It was as if a thick wooly blanket had descended upon their thought processes, and I was shocked to hear some of the usually crusty "better dead than Red" patriot types agree with him. I would like some of the libertarians on the list to share their thoughts on this subject. Clearly, NATO has violated the terms of its own charter by waging war on one if its European neighbors. It's also clear that the "accidental" bombing of civilian targets is not really accidental. The NATO forces are interested in terrorizing the civilian populationperhaps, it reflects a Malthusian approach of getting rid of Europe's "useless eaters." But I'm a little perplexed why so many of the libertarian contributors to CTRL condemn these Nazi-like policies. After all, once Milosevic is gone, and NATO enjoys its "victory," the last remnants of Tito's socialist state will have been delivered into the hands of EU apparachniks working for Swiss/German/British capitalists. Many of you free marketeers should find that a heartwarming prospect. Certainly, our local talk show host certainly does. But then I began wondering if libertarianism itself might be a tool of the global elite to usher in a one world government... well...it's a possibility. Just more of the old Hegelian thesis-antithesis stuff to keep the public constantly off balance while the noose around our necks grows tighter and tighter.. hmm.. On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Peter L. Sroufe wrote: -Caveat Lector- (Be Careful Brothers and Sisters, The overclass elites are using the media lords to condition our psyche in to accepting the Culture of Death; then proclaim themselves as our Protectors.) Sounds to me like Hitlerian nazism. Better learn who these people are that considers it a 'necessary price'. Of course if your a dumbed-down product of our socialist public school system, you'll think, "Who cares?". Socialism=Slavery and Death Constitutionalism=Freedom and Life We shouldn't allow the illiteracy of the many enslave the literate few! --- Monday, May 31, 1999 Published at 18:25 GMT 19:25 UK World: Europe Civilian deaths 'necessary price' Nato admits bombing bridge in Varvarin Nato says civilian casualties in Yugoslavia are the price of defeating evil, after three separate attacks in which at least 32 people are reported to have died. "There is always a cost to defeat an evil. It never comes free, unfortunately. But the cost of failure to defeat a great evil is far higher," said Nato spokesman Jamie Shea. He insisted Nato planes had bombed only "legitimate designated military targets" and if more civilians had died it was because Nato had been forced into military action. BBC's David Sillito: The number of civilian injuries continues to grow Yugoslavia says at least 20 people were killed when Nato planes hit a sanatorium and a neighbouring old people's home during a midnight raid in the town of Surdilica in south-eastern Serbia on Sunday. Another 11 are reported to have died in an attack on a bridge in Varvarin, south-central Serbia, and one person died when a bomb hit a car carrying foreign journalists. Wreckage of the bridge at Varvarin Alliance
[CTRL] Just Dessert?
-Caveat Lector- From ChicagoTribune http://chicagotribune.com/version1/article/0,1575,SAV- 9906010129,00.html REWARD SOUGHT FOR AIDING WEST'S WAR By R.C. Longworth Tribune Staff Writer June 01, 1999 TIRANA, Albania Soon after Albania awoke from its communist coma in 1991, James A. Baker III, then the U.S. secretary of state, became the first high American official to visit the country. Albania went nuts. Delirious crowds lined the crumbling road from the airport and filled Skanderbeg Square in the middle of Tirana. One million people, about the population of the city itself, turned out in a jumping, waving, adoring mob to welcome the decidedly uncharismatic American as a savior. Raina Kovaci, along with her husband and their infant daughter, were part of the crowd, and she has never forgotten it. "We thought he was bringing democracy." she said. He didn't. Albania remains an anarchic place, ruled more by clans than by laws. The country had a civil war two years ago, an attempted coup last year, and its main opposition party is boycotting parliament. But the faith remains. There's a sort of cargo-cult mentality in the Balkans, a belief that Albania and its neighbors will become rich and democratic if only the West bestows its gifts on them. Conversely, there's a feeling that the Balkans have missed the post-communist gravy train and have, once again, been consigned by the Great Powers, as the major nations are always called here, to history's scullery. The fact is that a new curtain of poverty has fallen across ex-communist Eastern Europe. The more Western and Roman Catholic nations of Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic have forged ahead with painful but productive reforms and have been rewarded with invitations to join NATO and the European Union. South and east of this curtain lie the Balkan countries, mostly Eastern Orthodox or Muslim, poorer now than when communism collapsed, stumbling from crisis to crisis, horribly damaged by the slow-motion unraveling of Yugo slavia, politically unstable and, most important, ignored by the West, from which all blessings flow. The silver lining of the Kosovo war is that this curtain has parted, as least for the moment, and the West is focused on the region for the first time since 1989. "This war has forced the United States and the European Union to really look at the Balkans," said Prec Zogaj, adviser to Albanian President Rexhep Mejdani. "This is the great irony. For the first time, Western eyes are t urned to the Balkans." Creating a postwar plan Everyone, including NATO officials, assumes that the West, by going to war against Serbia, has taken on a long-term responsibility for stability and recovery in the Balkans. At the least, this is going to mean years of mi litary presence, probably a NATO protectorate, over not only Kosovo but also Macedonia and perhaps Albania. Otherwise, these countries, already politically divided and economically broke, will collapse and bring on new st rife. But that's just the start. The search already is on for solutions to the region's long-range problems--recovery from war damage, economic aid, investment and good advice, including a road map for bringing these countries into NATO and the European Union. In short, even as bombs fall, officials in the Balkans and the West are charting the region's full membership in Western civilization. The best and most comprehensive blueprint so far has been drawn up by the Center for European Policy Studies, a Brussels think tank with close ties to the EU. The center's report said: "It is evident that the long-run solution to the Balkan conflicts will have to be through the integration of the region into civilian, civilized Europe, and that there will have to be a progressive transition from militar ized to civilian order." A NATO-led military protectorate won't do the trick, it said, any more than it has in Bosnia-Herzegovina. NATO can restore military security, but that's all. The U.S. can help with money but is too far away and too preocc upied with the rest of the world to really lead in the Balkans. Only the EU can do it. But can this be done unless Serbia is part of the process? If not, how does the rest of Europe persuade Serbia to join in? And how can the West give the Balkans the help and leadership it needs without reinforcing the reg ion's crippling sense of helplessness and fatalism, that its future depends on what the West does for the Balkans, not what the Balkan nations do for themselves? "The Balkans do have our attention for the first time," a European ambassador here said. "But in a country like Albania, foreign partners can't solve all the problems. We can open the door. But the Albanians have to under stand that the future is not only in the EU's hands but in their own hands." Common dreams, problems In the eight ex-communist Balkan countries--Bulgaria, Slovenia, Romania, Albania, Macedonia, Croatia,
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis June 1, 1999
-Caveat Lector- ... rendered incomprehensible by economists who have a one-dimensional view of human behavior and who have never understood the centrality of the community and nation in human behavior. (Or views DELIBERATELY falsified, to mislead the victims of their schemes?) The intellectual force (and wishful thinking) driving globalism was the world-view of the economists. Read "international financiers." When we step back and view the world carefully, it is clear that we have returned from the land of globalist fantasy. This doesn't mean that we have returned to the Cold War. That is over and buried. However, the essential characteristics of the Cold War - a dangerous place filled with political intrigue, espionage, and warfare - have returned. In other words, when the international financiers' pyramid schemes start to fail and they run out of luck just CHEATING us, they happily go back to BEATING us, with a big stick -- send in the Marines (or, in global terms, NATO or the UN). DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Heads up - UK-TV - 6/1/99
Tuesday 1st June 1999 Tonight on UK TV BBC2 21:30 - 22:20 "Under the Sun" Under The Sun BBC2 9.30pm (a Four Star Rating ... Wow) In America, the power elite is drawn from secretive university societies known as the Greek System. Eighty per cent of elected politicians, 85 per cent of corporate leaders and Supreme Court judges come from the Greek System, as have all but two American presidents. The first of a new series, this film gives a startling insight into the hidden class system that decides America's leaders. This year's week-long selection process for new members of the sorority and fraternity houses coincided with the week that one of the most famous members of the Greek System, Bill Clinton, admitted his affair with Monica Lewinsky. The students we see here are destined to run the U.S. in the not too distant future. Scary. == Coming soon ... 13 June 1999 BBC2 Part one of a two part series looking at past and present members of the Russian 'SAS'(their words not mine). Whats becoming of members of their elite units. What the specialised training they received is being used for. Crime gangs, Mercenaries, private security Its not all for the govt. == __ ¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» ¯¯ Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground. http://www.davidicke.com __ ¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» ¯¯ Check out his website books at: http://www.davidicke.com "The Biggest Secret" "...And the Truth Shall Set you Free" Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. .
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The crimes of Mena, Arkansas.... will there ever be justice?!?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] These 2 innocent young boys died because of CIA drug smuggling, and corruption within the Arkansas and federal government in Mena. Bill Clinton and his cronies have gotten away with too much already. Kevin and Don were unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time. As a mother, former U.S. soldier, former law enforcement officer, and as a child of God, it infuriates me to know that these things have taken place in our country, with the involvement of presidents and government agencies, and breaks my heart that justice has yet to be seen for all of the victims and their families. You can expect my donation of at least $50.00 within the next few weeks. Now I have a request I was just given a free 2 day vacation (that I'm supposed to use to recover from recent surgery) at one of the casinos in Biloxi, Mississippi. During the hours of 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. on Thursday, June 3, I will be playing slot machines at the Isle of Capri solely for this cause. I'm going to start out with $50.00 and am pledging any monies I win to you, for justice for Kevin Don. Whatever my winnings (or losses) are - the $50.00 is guaranteed. What I'm requesting of you is for you to pray that I win a BIG jackpot for this cause! (Or even a lot of small ones...) $50.00 isn't much, but maybe I'll get lucky and win a lot of $$ for the fund with the help of your prayers! This idea may sound silly, but I've won many thousands of dollars in the past starting with less $50.00 and playing for several hours. I strongly believe in the power of prayer, and if ever there was a cause to pray and play for - this is it! This will be the REAL Trial of the Century... If I can turn that $50.00 into $500.00, or $5,000.00, or even $100.00, it would bring me great joy to be able to give that money to Linda and Jean for this cause. Thanks in advance for your prayers, and have a wonderful day! - Tanina P. S. Anyone who may be in the area that wants to join me for this event is welcome to. Just send me an email, and we'll make plans to meet so we can "pray and play for justice" for Kevin, Don, Linda, Jean and the other victims of the crimes at Mena! ~~ The "train deaths" at: http://www.idmedia.com UPDATE: 6-1-99 A PLEA FOR FUNDING http://www.idmedia.com/plea-for-funding.htm by Jean Duffey This is a difficult update for me to write. It is a plea for money to support our federal law suit that is going to trial the first week in August. We have been able to finance our website and support a continued investigation of the murders of Kevin and Don with donations from supporters and with proceeds from the sale of our video Obstruction of Justice: The Mena Connection (we receive 2% of the sales). When the funds are short, we cover the expenses personally. We are adamantly opposed to making one penny profit from anything associated with the story. There is almost nothing we dread more than having to ask for money, but we are financially in our most desperate hour. We are $50,000 short of financing the upcoming trial. The expose below is a recap of the events which have brought us to the brink of realizing justice for Kevin and Don. A year after the release of Obstruction, Jay Campbell and Kirk Lane sued our video's producer,(1) Pat Matrisciana, for naming them as suspects in the murders. Linda and I welcomed the suit as an opportunity to put evidence into public record and get the facts before a jury. After depositions last summer, each party filed motions for summary judgment and argued several points of law. We flew over that hurdle with a ruling from the judge in our favor on every point of law. The last hurdle is the jury trial which is scheduled to begin on August 2. We are absolutely confident in our case and look forward to presenting our evidence to the jurors. Our only obstacle is financing. Pat has run out of money and does not have the last $50,000. A mere $50,000 - not very much compared to the hundreds of thousands of dollars raised for Paula Jones and Bill Clinton and the millions spent by Kenneth Starr. The amount seems even more insignificant when compared to what a favorable ruling will accomplish. Not only will we realize some measure of justice for Kevin and Don, the Mena cover-up will unravel. Please help us realize the most important opportunity for justice in the nearly twelve years since Kevin and Don were murdered to protect a government-sanctioned drug operation. Mainstream media is perpetuating the cover-up, (2) and if we have to default for lack of money, they will never let us recover. On the other hand, if we can get through the trial, they will not be able to ignore the findings of a federal judge and jury. Please don't think that a small contribution of $5 or $10 won't be appreciated. The truth is, we'd rather have $5 from 10,000 supporters than $50,000 from one. E-mailing and faxing I.C. Smith and Paula Casey has
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, AOL User wrote: so-called Christians who spend energy on trying to 'prove' ANYTHING regarding Jesus cheapen the religion, and show the ULTIMATE disrespect to Him and to God... How is this "cheapening" Christianity? What do you mean by that comment? It reduces it to superstition and idolatry... Would you say pagans who spend energy trying to "prove" ANYTHING regarding paganism cheapen paganism? I'm not aware of ANY non-Christian attempting to 'prove' the existence of their deity or deities with the vehemence that some Christians mistakenly try to do...perhaps you can enlighten us to these various pagan religions that are doing this? How about Moslems who spend energy trying to "prove" ANYTHING regarding Islam cheapening Islam? First off, tell me just WHO do Moslems regard as God? How does the God of the Moslems differ from the God of the Jews and of the Christians? And THEN, tell me the EXACT instances of those of the Islamic faith attempting to 'prove' the existence' of a supernatural being by seeking to disinter a corpse... When you attempt to explain this, keep in mind the strict prohibition against devout Moslems creating an image to idolize... No, it's only weak-minded and weak-willed pseudo-Christians who lack FAITH who insult God by trying to come up with 'proofs'... June DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
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June,
Under your logic, not only Christians trying to prove Christianity reduce
their religion to superstition and idolatry (sic?) but pagans and Moslems,
too, no matter (l) whether you are aware of pagans trying to prove paganism
or not, and (2) whether you know who the god of the Moslems is (Allah) or not.
You have failed to distinguish how Christians trying to prove their religion
are more cheap (superstitious and, sic, idolatrous) than any other religious
person.
You would do well not to slam Christians so ("weak-minded and weak-willed"
and pseudo- who lack faith and "who insult God").
Terry
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Re: [CTRL] Moral Relativism: The Phantom Menace
-Caveat Lector- AOL User wrote: -Caveat Lector- Is there any way to stop these mailings from the Libertarians? There must be an egroup for those people to use w/o bothering us. Please no. What would I do without Libertarians? Let's get rid of religious psychos instead. And then let's get rid of short people. Tall Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Say NO To Socialized Health Care Today!
-Caveat Lector- Bravo, Robert! Byron T. Weeks, MD ~ Norse Knight wrote: -Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: "I think we need a national health program.." My God, man, why would you want to entrust such an important service to incompetent non-professionals? "My son has type one diabetes. Do you know how many insurance companies are interested in covering him? NONE." Current interference from the State has contibuted to this sad state of affairs for your son and others. Asking for more of the same is like giving alcohol to an alcoholic. "I do believe that a nation as sophisticated and enlightened as ours can do a better job in providing affordable care for ordinary citizens." A nation is merely a large number of individuals...this logic asks for some individuals to contribute to the care of others with the State as a middle-man...a prescription for serfdom. Let's, instead, advocate freeing health care professionals from the pernicious and parasitical overseers of the Plutocracy. Respectfully Yours, Robert Paul. [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [3] Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry John Daniel (C)1994 John Kregel, Inc. P. O. box 131480 Tyler, Texas 75713 ISBN 0-9635079-0-7 - can be purchased from: Global insights 675 Fairview Dr. #246 Carson City, NV 89701 702-885-0700 800-729-4131(orders only) --[3]-- Chapter 12 FRENCH FREEMASONRY TRIES, AND TRIES AGAIN Freemasonry in its momentary command of power, failed in its supreme endeavour. Taught by these experiences, its progress has become slower and surer. (1) Count Leon de Poncins In 1796, the survivors of the House of Bourbon escaped to the island of Sicily where they lived protected by the British Navy until after the Battle of Waterloo.(2) When Napoleon was banished to the island of St. Helena, and Europe reorganized under oligarchic rule, the Bourbons offered to return, but the French Freemasons sought a king neither Bourbon nor Catholic. They approached the Protestant and Masonic king of Holland to be king of France. Dillon explains what followed this unsuccessful bid: This failing, they contrived by Masonic arts to obtain the first places in the Provisional Government which succeeded Napoleon. They endeavoured to make the most of the inevitable, and to rule the incoming [Bourbon King] Louis XVIII, in the interests of their sect, and to the detriment of the Church and of Christianity.(3) In the first revolution French Freemasonry had shown open hostility to the House of Bourbon. Bizarre as it may seem, when Louis XVIII ascended the throne, he favored the Republican Templar Grand Orient. Stranger yet, Talleyrand became minister. Moreover, other advanced Masons of the Napoleonic empire, such as Emmanuel Sieyes, Regis de Cambaceres, and Joseph Fouche, obtained positions as well. Louis's court was filled with Masonic Templars and Sionists, who were once again plotting against the throne. Dillon outlines the disastrous events that flowed from their schemes: These men at once applied themselves to subvert the sentiment of reaction in favour of the monarchy and of religion. Soon, Louis XVIII gave the world the sad spectacle of a man prepared at their bidding to cut his own throat. He dissolved a Parliament of ultra loyalists because they were too loyal to him. The Freemasons took care that his next Parliament should be full of its own creatures. They also wrung from the King, under the plea of freedom of the press, permission to deluge the country anew with the infidel and immoral publications of Voltaire and his confederates, and with newspapers and periodicals, which proved disastrous to his house, and to Christianity, in France. These led before long to the attempt upon the life of the Duke of Berry. to the revolution against Charles X, to the elevation of the son of the Grand Master, the traitor Duke of Orleans, Philip the Egalite, as Constitutional King, and to all the revolutionary results that have since distracted and disgraced unfortunate France.(4) The French Revolution of 1830 Unable to dethrone the Bourbons, the Priory of Sion settled for a constitutional monarchy. This adjustment to political reality in fact was not as strange a departure from the character of Sion as might first appear. The authors of The Messianic Legacy explain Sion's reason for accepting a constitutional monarchy: The essence of such a monarchy is that it rests on the basis espoused by the Prieure de Sion and ascribed to the old Merovingian dynasty of France. For the Merovingians, the king ruled but did not govern. In other words, he was ultimately a symbolic figure. To the extent that he remained unsoiled by the tawdry business of politics and government, his symbolic status remained pristine. As one of the Prieure de Sion's writers declares in an article, "The king is." In other words, his currency resides in what he embodies as a symbol, rather than in anything he does, or in any real power he might or might not exercise. The most potent symbols always exert an intangible authority, which can only be compromised by the more tangible forms of power.(5) The "more tangible forms of power" were of course the plotters in the French parliament, comprised of representatives from both Sion and the Temple. The constant assignment of the Grand Masters of Sion was to steer the ship of Sion toward a course favorable to the interests of the "Lost King." This goal proved more difficult in France than it had been in England. In England, Sion had no adversary. In France, however, a constitutional monarchy was just as easily subverted by the Templars. Such was the case when in the three-day revolution of 1830 the Templars once again took power when royalty was deposed in favor of a republic. In a speech full of Masonic terminology, de Poncins quotes Freemason M. Dupin, who credits the coup to long-term planning: Do not believe that three days have done everything. If the revolution has been so prompt and sudden, if we have made it
[CTRL] [8] Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry,Vol 3
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry,Vol 3 John Daniel (C)1994 John Kregel, Inc. P. O. box 131480 Tyler, Texas 75713 ISBN 0-9635079-0-7 - can be purchased from: Global insights 675 Fairview Dr. #246 Carson City, NV 89701 702-885-0700 800-729-4131(orders only) --[8]-- 2 MODERN MYSTERY BABYLON AND DRUGS The Chinese Opium Wars: A Blueprint for America As long as this country maintains its drug traffic, there is not the slightest possibility that it will ever become a military threat, since the habit saps the vitality of the nation.(1) So spoke a leading drug trafficker in a letter to his superiors. Although the trafficker could well have been describing America, he is not referring to the United States, but to China in 1838, on the eve of the first Opium War when Great Britain landed troops to compel Chinese to ingest the poison distributed by British merchants. Four years later in 1842, Great Britain's army of ten thousand soldiers had won a victory over 350 million Chinese.(2) London's military success against the Chinese was not due to superior military advantage, but to its strategy between 1830-1839 of decimating the Chinese army through drug addiction. This famous cartoon, reproduced here, dates back to the 1839 Opium War, and shows a British military man shoving opium down the throat of a Chinaman.(3) British Merchants of the Earth The vehicle by which London shipped her drugs to China and elsewhere around the world was founded in 1600. Capriciously called "Dope, Inc.," the British East India Company (BEIC) was incorporated by royal charter on December 31, 1600, under the name "Governor and Company of Merchants of London trading with the East Indies." Begun as a monopolistic trading body, the BEIC became involved in politics and acted as an agent of British imperialism in India starting in the mid-eighteenth century (4) From its earliest years, the British East India Company was involved in Masonic revolutions, specifically Oliver Cromwell's Rosicrucian-Masonic insurrection against the Stuart monarchy.(5) At first Cromwell dissolved all crown-protected monopolies, but finding his protectorate short of capital, he granted the BEIC a new charter in October of 1657 in return for financial aid.(6) The BEIC was not just another monopoly, but a Masonic monopoly. According to Dr. John Coleman, a former British intelligence officer. "to operate a trading company within the BEIC, the merchant must first be a Freemason or an initiate in one of its adjunct orders; and second, he must be given permission to join by the BEIC stockholders. "(7 )Initially the BEIC received tea, spices, and silks from the Orient in return for fabrics manufactured from cotton grown on the southern plantations in the newly colonized Americas. As the ships sailed on their return from the Orient, they dropped anchor off the coast of Africa to board captured blacks who they would sell as slaves to work the cotton fields on the east coast of America. The use of slave labor enabled BEIC stockholders to maintain low overhead in their cotton production. Merchant families and plantation owners rapidly accumulated great wealth. Prior to the American Civil War, the same British trading companies behind the slave trade in the South were running large numbers of Chinese indentured servants to the West Coast. This was called the "coolie trade" or "pig trade" by its British Hong Kong and Shanghai sponsors.(8) The term "Shanghaied" has its origin in kidnapping drug-addicted Chinese, who were boarded on BEIC ships at the port of Shanghai, and then shipped to the west coast of the United States of America to be sold as indentured servants. These Chinese were the first buyers in the BEIC drug market in the western hemisphere, and as addicts they simultaneously served as the initial means for trafficking in America. The only competition the BEIC faced was from other nations such as France and the Netherlands, which also formed East India companies. The Dutch were unable to compete with the British and eventually gave England their trade rights to India. This gave the BEIC exclusive control of the entire opium trade in India, whose farmers produced the largest drug crop in the world. Through a strong advertising program, the BEIC encouraged the sale of tea while rapidly and energetically expanding its spice trade Expanding revenues from tea made it possible for the English to colonize India, the garden spot of the world for poppy. Poppy juice, called opium, was extracted from the poppy and transported to China by the BEIC. It was this drug that helped bring on the Opium Wars in the mid-1800s, which further benefited British colonialism.(9) America was involved in the opium trade through Freemason John Jacob Astor, founder of the New York Astor family dynasty during the Revolutionary era. Astor was granted the privilege of becoming a BEIC stockholder and
[CTRL] [5] Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry John Daniel (C)1994 John Kregel, Inc. P. O. box 131480 Tyler, Texas 75713 ISBN 0-9635079-0-7 - can be purchased from: Global insights 675 Fairview Dr. #246 Carson City, NV 89701 702-885-0700 800-729-4131(orders only) - As, always Caveat leactor Om K - Chapter 15 FREEMASONRY AND THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT There existed...ln antiquity the great time clock in the night sky, which we still share with our ancestors. This is the zodiac, a great turning wheel of twelve constellations making a complete circle every 25,920 years but with each of its twelve constellations in order having ascendancy over the skies of earth approximately every 2,160 years. According to zodiacal tradition the ascendency of each new sign every 2,000-odd years is accompanied by catastrophic or otherwise crucial events on the earth.(1) What Is the New Age? As the zodiacal wheel turns to the constellation of Aquarius, astrologers are studying the stars, predicting that a major event will soon occur, which will bring in their World Teacher. From the "New Era" of Emmanuel Swedenborg (1757) until today, the Masonic world has been poised for the coming of the "New Age." In fact, the title of the Scottish Rite monthly magazine, New Age, has been suggesting this for over a century.(2) "Masonry and the Impending New Era," an article in New Age, July 1941 (five months before America entered the Second World War), spoke of the "world government" expected to be established at the conclusion of the war to help usher in a "newer phase of evolutionary progress."(3) In April 1943 the New Age reported that "the struggle for the freedom of man began with the American and French Revolutions, and World War II is the climax of a world ideological struggle which started at the end of the 18th Century. It is the struggle of the New Age against the Middle Age."(4) The phrase "Middle Age," as used in the text above, is Masonic jargon for Christianity. Webster's Dictionary defines the Middle Ages as "the period of European history from about A.D. 500 to about 1500," -- the same period of time the Catholic Church dominated European politics. We can readily decode the Masonic lingo above and accurately name the enemy against which Masons struggle: "It is the struggle of the New Age against the age of Christianity." Although Masonry's "New Age" dates from the end of the 18th century, the motives of the modern New Age Movement were not manifest until the end of the nineteenth century, when in 1889 the Luciferian Doctrine of Palladism was introduced to the twenty-three Supreme Councils of the world. Before this date the general body of English Masons, including most of the Supreme Council, were not Luciferians, but deists. Atheists, Spiritists and Luciferian Three significant events prior to the 1889 Masonic Congress prepared English Freemasonry to accept Lucifer as god. First, in 1877, the existence of God was debated between the atheistic French Grand Orient and the deistic French Grand Lodge. The Grand Orient had replaced the Great Architect of the Universe with the slogan To the Glory of Humanity," declaring "God is deadl"(5) The second event followed that same year when the English Grand Lodge, which requires a belief in deity, broke fellowship with all Grand Orient bodies throughout the world. The third event, that of founding of the Quatuor Coronati Lodge of Masonic Research in London, England, actually had its roots in the 1860s, but did not become a reality until three years before the 1889 International Masonic Congress. In 1860, Great Britain had just concluded her second Opium War against China when English Freemasonry, in search of her roots, decided to launch a massive investigation of Oriental mystery religions. As a result, Masons in various parts of the British Empire wrote numerous occult books, many of which were repetitive. To avoid further duplication, Freemason Sir Walter Besant, brother of socialist and theosophist Annie Besant, began a drive in the early 1870s to organize a Masonic research lodge to catalog the data. In 1886 the Quatuor Coronati Lodge of Masonic Research, No. 2076, London, England, was founded. Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry states that the Quatuor Coronati "has long since become the supreme court of learning and authority in Masonic scholarship throughout the world.(6) The constitution of this Mother Research Lodge stipulated that forty of the most prestigious Masons in England be members, one of whom must always be high up in the Anglican Church. When any "Member of Forty" died, the thirty-nine remaining voted on his replacement. Sir Walter Besant was one of the original "Members of Forty." In 1887 a Correspondence Circle was attached to the lodge. Any Mason of literary, archaeological, or investigative talent could join the Circle. Within a decade the Circle had printed the Ars
[CTRL] [4] Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry John Daniel (C)1994 John Kregel, Inc. P. O. box 131480 Tyler, Texas 75713 ISBN 0-9635079-0-7 - can be purchased from: Global insights 675 Fairview Dr. #246 Carson City, NV 89701 702-885-0700 800-729-4131(orders only) --[4]-- Chapter 14 LUCIFIER: GOD OF FREEMASONRY The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degree, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine The doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.(1) Albert Pike, 33rd Degree, 1889 Albert Pike (1809-1891) was a General in the Confederate Army during our American Civil War (1860-1865). From 1859 until his death in 1891, he was the most powerful Mason in the world. He occupied simultaneously the positions of Grand Master of the Central Directory at Washington, D.C. Grand Commander of the Supreme Council at Charleston, S.C., and Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry.(2) He was an honorary member of almost every Supreme Council in the world, personally receiving 130 Masonic degrees.(3) On October 26, 1919, twenty-eight years after Pike's death, Alva Adams of Colorado addressed the Supreme Council, Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite at Washington, D.C., with the following commendation of Albert Pike: As the Laws King Alfred wrote a thousand years ago are still a part of England's glory and liberty, so in another thousand years will the ideals, the poetry, the moral code and philosophy of Albert Pike be shaping the influence and destiny of Masonry. It is a patent of nobility to be a Brother to this god-like leader -- Prince in the House of Solomon and Hiram.(4) There is a subversive side to Albert Pike, however, about which many remain silent. Before accession to his prestigious Masonic positions, Pike secretly organized the rebellion of the southern states against the United States, using the Southern Jurisdiction of Scottish Rite Freemasonry to conceal his conspiracy. Most of the political and military leadership of the Confederacy were Masons under Pike's secret command. In reality, our Civil War was another battle in the war between English and French Freemasonry.(5) Prior to our 1776 War of Independence, 32nd degree French Templarism had not yet reached America. Although a few Templar lodges from Ireland and Scotland were scattered throughout the northeast U.S., most were military lodges and had not progressed beyond nine degrees. Predominant were the three-degree English lodges. By the time George Washington was elected our first President, 32nd degree Templar Scottish Rite Freemasonry had already been established at Charleston, S.C. -- on the 33rd degree parallel. The Scottish Rite assisted our new government in developing French republican ideals. In 1801, nine American Masons created the 33rd degree and the Charleston lodge became the Mother Council of the World. High-degree Scottish Rite lodges soon dotted the southern portion of the United States, and the Rite moved northeast where low-degree English Masonry was strongest. Evidence suggests that to counter this intrusion into English Masonic territory, the British sent John James Joseph Gourgas (1777-1865) to New York to organize clandestine Scottish Rite Lodges throughout that region.(6) Gourgas was well-suited to this subversive task. The Gourgas family had been French Scottish Rite Masons living in Switzerland prior to the French Revolution. During the Reign of Terror, the family emigrated to England, where John James Joseph became a well-known merchant on the royal exchange. As a matter of course, he joined low-degree English Freemasonry.(7) The Gourgas family sailed from England to Boston in 1803, finally settling in Weston, Massachusetts. J.J.J. Gourgas went to New York around 1806. By 1813 he had organized five clandestine Scottish Rite lodges, one of which was called the Cerneau Supreme Council of Sovereign Grand Inspectors General of the Thirty-Third Degree. These subversive lodges had assisted England in her War of 1812- 1814 against the young American nation. In the early summer of 1813 Emanual de la Motta, a Supreme Council member from Charleston, was visiting New York and discovered the five clandestine lodges. An investigation ensued, and none were found to have received sponsorship from Charleston. After conferring with the Charleston hierarchy, Motta was told to rectify the situation as quietly as possible. He immediately worked out a territorial arrangement with Gourgas. Thus was born the Northern Jurisdiction of Scottish Rite Freemasonry on August 5, 1813, with confirmation on December 24th by the Mother Supreme Council at Charleston.(8) Permanent headquarters for the Northern Jurisdiction of Freemasonry
Re: [CTRL] America Burns
-Caveat Lector- A reply from some snotty kid, no doubt. You know nothing about life. nurev wrote: -Caveat Lector- Dr Byron Weeks wrote: -Caveat Lector- Dear Fellow Americans, I have spent a great deal of time thinking about my 15 years with the Air Force, Get a life man. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [9] Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry,Vol. 3
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry,Vol. 3 John Daniel (C)1994 John Kregel, Inc. P. O. box 131480 Tyler, Texas 75713 ISBN 0-9635079-0-7 - can be purchased from: Global insights 675 Fairview Dr. #246 Carson City, NV 89701 702-885-0700 800-729-4131(orders only) --[9]-- 3 ENGLISH FREEMASONRY'S SECRET AGENDA FOR POLITICAL CONTROL OF AMERICA [The day] I [became] a member in the Masonic order, I [saw] the wealth and power they possess, the influence they hold. I think over their ceremonies and I wonder [how] a large body of men can devote themselves to what at times appear the most ridiculous and absurd rites without an object and without an end. Why should we not form a secret society with but one objectthe furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilized world under British rule, for the recovery of the United States, [and] for...making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire? Freemason Cecil Rhodes(1) The once powerful British Empire, on which the sun never set, was on the wane following the loss of its American colonies. Anything said about world government emanated from Paris, not London. Throughout most of the nineteenth century, French Freemasonry, and not English Freemasonry, appeared to be the dominant revolutionary force in the Old Worldoffering the lower and middle classes a voice in government. English Freemasonry was partially to blame for the decline of the British empire. Since its beginning in 1717, the British Brotherhood was aristocratic, capitalistic, and monopolistic. Prior to the Victorian era of the nineteenth century, upper class income came from ground rent, banking and trade. A middle class hardly existed in England in those days. The uneducated lower class had little chance of economic or social improvement. The right-wing aristocracy of Great Britain, who were wrapped up in English Freemasonry, were called "British race patriots" by their Grand Orient left-wing opponents. British race patriots believed that the British race was at a higher evolutionary level than other races. When French Grand Orient Freemasonry sent a German-born Mason, Karl Marx (1818-1883), to England to agitate the lower classes to rebel against the aristocracy, the British race patriots at least became concerned about the political ascendancy which French Freemasonry had enjoyed for the last hundred years. To counter the increasingly influential ideology of French Freemasonry, in 1870 a select group of English Masons devised a plan which would both satisfy the proletariat and keep the Masonic oligarchy in power. The scheme was introduced at Christ Church, Oxford, by Freemason John Ruskin. John Ruskin (1819-1900), writer, critic, artist, and British race patriot, was born of wealthy but strict parents. Ruskin had received his formal education at Christ Church College, Oxford University. A course on Plato's Republic had been his favorite. Ruskin's inspiration and devotion to the creation of an elite of race patriots derived directly from Plato's Republic, which he read almost daily. In the Republic, Plato called for "a ruling class with a powerful army to keep it in power and a society completely subordinate to the monolithic authority of the rulers."(2) Ruskin's studies of ancient political philosophers taught him that the most effective way to conquer a man is to capture his mind. Realizing that a century earlier French Masons had captured the working man's mind through revolutionary propaganda, Ruskin set out to recoup and extend the influence of British Masonry. He wanted to do this by the education of the working man. In 1870, Ruskin was asked to return to Oxford to hold a chair in the fine arts. His inaugural lecture, which set forth his views on the ruling class as developed from Plato's Republic, sent shock waves through Oxford. The undergraduates to whom Ruskin spoke were the scions of the British aristocracy. They listened with awe at Ruskin's message, of which a portion follows: [You, the undergraduates are] the possessors of a magnificent tradition of education, beauty, rule of law, freedom, decency, and self-discipline but...this tradition [can] not be saved, and [does] not deserve to be saved, unless it [can] be extended to the lower classes in England itself and to the non-English masses throughout the world. If this precious tradition [is] not extended to these two great majorities, the minority of upper-class Englishmen [will] ultimately be submerged by these majorities and the tradition lost. To prevent this, the tradition must be extended to the masses and to the empire [emphasis added].(3) Historians have touted Ruskin as a protector and educator of the downtrodden masses of the working men and the poor. In reality he had another rationale for proclaiming such ideas. He planted in the fertile minds of his Oxford students the theory that if they educated the working man and
[CTRL] [1] Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry John Daniel (C)1994 John Kregel, Inc. P. O. Box 131480 Tyler, Texas 75713 ISBN 0-9635079-0-7 - can be purchased from: Global insights 675 Fairview Dr. #246 Carson City, NV 89701 702-885-0700 800-729-4131(orders only) - The blueprint to destroy the Church through this means was drawn up over two hundred years ago by Adam Weishaupt, who has been called 'The Human Devil." Whether Weishaupt received it from Voltaire or Frederick the Great is not known. Nesta Webster suggests some connection when she notes that "The resemblances between Weishaupt's correspondence and that of Voltaire and of Frederick the Great are certainly very striking."(87) You recall that from 1750-1755 Voltaire was a guest at Frederick's court.(88) Monsignor Dillon wrote of that visit: [Voltaire] sketched out for them the whole mode of procedure against the Church. His policy as revealed by the correspondence of Frederick II, and others with him, was not to commence an immediate persecution, but first to suppress the Jesuits and all Religious orders, and to secularize their goods; then to deprive the Pope of temporal authority, and the Church of property and state recognition. Primary and higher-class education of a lay and Infidel [sicl character was to be established, the principle of divorce affirmed and respect for ecclesiastics lessened and destroyed. Lastly, when the whole body of the Church should be sufficiently weakened and Infidelity [sic] strong enough, the final blow was to be dealt by the sword of open, relentless persecution. A reign of terror was to spread over the whole earth, and to continue while a Christian should be found obstinate enough to adhere to Christianity. This, of course, was to be followed by a Universal Brotherhood without marriage, family property God, or law(89) Weishaupt took up the cause of Voltaire, providing the vehicle by which the plan would be carried to future generations. When Weishaupt penetrated Freemasonry with illuminism, the Lodge took up the cause, citing Voltaire as a patron. Miller explains in Occult Theocracy that after the 1789-1793 destruction of old France, and subsequent to the reign- of Napoleon, Grand Orient Freemasonry's aim was the same as Voltaire's. From the minutes of the Italian Masonic Lodge, Permanent Instructions, or Practical Code of Rules; Guide for the Heads of the Highest Grades of Masonry, Miller quotes: "'Our final aim is that of Voltaire and of the French Revolution, -- the complete annihilation of Catholicism, and ultimately of Christianity Under this cloak [of Freemasonry, we may conspire at our convenience, and arrive, little by little, at our ultimate aim."(90) The Masonic Lodge ever since has been bent on the destruction of our families, our churches, our nation, our world, and our God. Freemasonry's ultimate aim is a one-world humanistic government without Christ and His Church. Obviously, the Masonic Lodge is still carrying out Voltaire's plan. Freemason Voltaire, born flfty-four years before Weishaupt, had laid the groundwork for insurrection. Weishaupt advanced it. Perceiving an eminent revolution in France, which had long been agitating French Masons, Weishaupt saw and took his chance to impose the doctrines of the Illuminati on the existing French Grand Lodge. This gave him a platform from which to operate. Realizing the Grand Lodge had to be separated from English Masonic obedience before it would initiate and fully support a revolution against the monarchy, Weishaupt used the illuminated Grand Orient Masons to subvert the Grand Lodge.(91) Author and 18th century English Freemason John Robison in Proofs of a Conspiracy (1798) quotes a letter from Weishaupt to his Illuminatus brother Cato, wherein he states his use of Masonry to another end: "'The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment; let it never appear in any place in its own name, but always covered by another name, and another occupation. None is fitter than the three lower degrees of Free Masonry; the public is accustomed to it, expects little from it, and therefore takes little notice of it."'(92) Having achieved this goal, Weishaupt's next step was twofold: 1)through revolution win freedom for the subjects of what he regarded as despotic kings and Church; and 2) after revolution inaugurate an ostensibly atheistic government under the guise of democracy. Commander Guy Carr in The Conspiracy writes that 'Weishaupt never intended that any except specially selected Masons, from the Higher Degrees, should learn The Full Secret' of Lucifer. Only those known to have defected completely from Almighty God were initiated into the Higher Degrees of the Grand Orient Lodges and told that the Illuminati were a secret organization with the order dedicated to the cause of forming a One World Government Weishaupt stated this action would ensure permanent
[CTRL] [6] Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry John Daniel (C)1994 John Kregel, Inc. P. O. box 131480 Tyler, Texas 75713 ISBN 0-9635079-0-7 - can be purchased from: Global insights 675 Fairview Dr. #246 Carson City, NV 89701 702-885-0700 800-729-4131(orders only) --[6]-- Chapter 16 NEW AGE MOVEMENT UNITES ENGLISH AND FRENCH FREEMASONRY The government of the O.T.Ocombines monarchy with democracy; it includes aristocracy, and conceals even the seeds of revolution, by which alone progress can be effected. Thus we balance the Triads, uniting the Three in One...(1) Book of Equinox When the hierarchy of the Templar Palladium failed to unite permanently the three Masonic obediences, it was Sion's turn. Miller confirms the story told in the Book of Equinox, of which a portion is cited above. The word "monarchy" refers to English Freemasonry; "democracy" represents both French and American Freemasonry; and "uniting the Three in One" alludes to all three Masonic obediences. All three must come to agreement both religiously and politically if world government is to be a reality. However, unity among contradictory religious organizations is impossible. Likewise, unity among opposing political viewpoints is unrealistic. The war between English and French Freemasonry turns on differences of opinion on both these issues. The conflict? Which religious and political system will eventually rule the New World Order? Atheistic Templar Grand Orient Masonry desired a dictatorship of the proletariat -- the lower class -- with communism guaranteeing equal distribution of wealth. While awaiting the fruition of this dream, the Grand Orient encouraged laborers to form unions and, with the might of worker strikes, gain their share of the wealth. With this ideology, French Freemasonry was thus able to win the lower classes. In contrast, Pantheistic Sionist English Freemasonry, whose sovereigns shared power with an elected parliament, desired a New World Order dominated by an aristocracy. For two centuries English Freemasons had kept their society aristocratic, capitalistic, and monopolistic. They had dismissed and forgotten the common laborer, losing him politically to their adversary. To remedy this divisive stalemate, English Freemasonry attacked the problem by creating dual fronts where commonality could be predicated. First they established political-economic fronts, called "think tanks," where the intelligentsia from both sides of the Channel could discuss a coefficient for politics.(2) Second they created mystic front organizations intended to appeal to and gratify man's baser instincts, and thus reach and destabilize all levels of society. English Freemasonry assigned the latter task to the-Quatuor Coronati Lodge of Masonic Research, which, as we have seen, in turn developed a variety of degenerate sub-Masonic fronts known as co-Masonry. (3) To win the confidence of the French atheists who believed that individuals were endowed with equal, inalienable rights founded upon natural law, the English expanded the concept of natural law to include mythological law.(4) The Quatuor Coronati Lodge discovered that pagan religions, in harmony with their cyclical world outlook, had long ago interwoven into their political society mythological law, through which they maintained control of the populace. The dominant figure in these prevailing myths was usually a goddess who symbolized "Mother Earth" and who thus provided the basis for an ideology that man and earth were one.(5) Pagan religions taught that Mother Earth required the continuation of creation through procreation, with periodic demands for population control. These myths were carefully cultivated and applied by a designated caste of priests, who designed licentious rituals in their worship as a sacrament to Mother Earth. These rituals, of course, appealed to the base nature of man. Therefore, these mythologies, created by man, became mythological law. In this religion Mother Earth could become "angry"; when she did so it meant that man was multiplying too rapidly. To appease the mother goddess, mythological law demanded human sacrifices, usually of the very young. Paul deParrie, in Unholy Sacrifices of the New Age, says, 'Whether known as Kali (the many-armed Hindu goddess Kali, who wears for a necklace a chain of human skulls), Diana, Isis, or Astarte, Mother Earth or her dark mirror image consistently required blood as an appropriate offering; she who created (or procreated) also destroyed and devoured her own young in bloody ritual."(6) The purpose of the sacrifice was to "save the earth." Nigel Davies, in Human Sacrifice in History and Today, confirms: "Both sacrificer and victim knew that the act was required, to save the people from calamity and the cosmos from collapse. Their object was, therefore, more to preserve than to destroy life."(7) Mythological law required mothers to
[CTRL] [2] Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry John Daniel (C)1994 John Kregel, Inc. P. O. box 131480 Tyler, Texas 75713 ISBN 0-9635079-0-7 - can be purchased from: Global insights 675 Fairview Dr. #246 Carson City, NV 89701 702-885-0700 800-729-4131(orders only) --[2]-- Chapter 11 FIRST WAR BETWEEN ENGLISH AND FRENCH FREEMASONRY Many minor German Princes continued to be Freemasons. The Duke of Brunswick was the central figure in the first Masonic conspiracy The Court of Vienna was more or less Masonic since the reign of the wretched Joseph II. Alexander of Russia was educated by La Harpe, a [Grand Orient] Freemason(1) The Elector of Hesse, Prince William of Hanau, held broad views in religious matters, associated much with Freemasons and practiced complete religious tolerance.(2) Royalty in Europe had long been involved in Freemasonry before Weishaupt came on the scene -- not that they were revolutionary, although some of course were -- but because they were curious. Freemasonry was considered the custodian of science, something into which an intelligent man should look. It was also anti-Catholic, which suited many of the German Protestant princes. Even Catholic monarchs, nominal in their Christianity, disregarded the Vatican's ban on membership and attached themselves to the Order. After the French Revolution plunged Europe into political chaos, both Protestant and Catholic monarchs changed their attitudes toward the Craft. As we know, the original intent of the French Revolution was to dethrone the Bourbon dynasty in favor of Sion's Lorraine-Habsburg "King of Jerusalem" cult. Yet, when the Revolution began, the strongest players appeared to be the Templars, who had outsmarted Sion's Illuminati with exposure. Strong evidence of Templar involvement is seen in the appearance of the Jacobin Clubs when the doors of the Illuminati's Grand Orient lodges closed. It is true that most conspiracy researchers view this as nothing more than the Illuminati changing their name. The Jacobin Clubs were illuminated, and, as we have noted before, the name Jacobin recalls Jacques de Molay, strongly suggesting Templar influence, if not control. At the time of the French Revolution, there were actually three major conspiracies working -- all under the Masonic banner. They allegedly united in 1782 at Wilhelmsbad to cooperate in revolution. All three were illuminated at that conference. As subsequent events reveal, however, each had secretly planned its own outcome via the Revolution. For example, the French Grand Lodge, an English Masonic front, was Royalist, wanting a constitutional monarchy. The French Grand Orient, an Illuminati front of the Priory of Sion, fought to replace the Bourbon dynasty with another. The Scottish Rite, a Templar front, planned to avenge a four-centuries-old murder, destroying the monarchy and replacing it with a republic. Thus divided, the revolution was doomed to failure. Freemasonry's desire to alter the despotic politics of Europe might have been an admirable undertaking, but the outcome could not have been foreseen, nor given the anti-social passions that had been aroused, restraint possible. The French Revolution ended in the Terror. According to Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, not until December 27, 1801 did two of the warring factions of Masonry, the Templar Scottish Rite and the Grand Orient bodies, merged.(3) Soon afterwards, the third Masonic party, the Grand Lodge, came into line and all three upheld Napoleon. De Poncins, in The Secret Powers Behind Revolution, explains that By wishing to go too fast, freemasonry [sic] miscarried. The excesses of the Terror brought about a violent reaction of the country. Being unable to do better, freemasonry [sic] resumed its philanthropic guise and respectful attitude to social order. It upheld Napoleon, who, moreover, served it by spreading the revolutionary spirit all over Europe In a word he was for Europe what the revolution had been for France.(4) Napoleon Bonaparte and the Templars Napoleon Bonaparte was not a self-made man. He was selected by Templar Freemasonry to salvage the revolution -- to solidify the revolution in his name, since rumors persisted that the exiled Bourbons would return. Msgr. Dillon writes that "As a lesser evil, therefore, and as a means of forwarding the unification of Europe, which they had planned by his conquests, the Freemasons placed supreme power in the hands of Bonaparte, and urged him on in his career"(5) Although general history presents Napoleon as a fervent Catholic, Msgr. Dillon contradicts that judgment: [Napoleon's] letters breathe everywhere the spirit of advanced Freemasonry, gloating over the wounds it had been able to inflict upon the Spouse of Christ. Yet this adventurer has, with great adroitness, been able to pass with many...as a good Catholic...but he was in all his acts what
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- Stopforth, Jamie wrote: -Caveat Lector- Again, just a bunch of drivel. We could discuss this matter further off the list if you wish... Jamie Here's additional info on a possible model for the Christ created by Eusebius and friends. -- Mark McHugh What is there to discuss? Did you read the information on the Apollonius site or Archaya site? Or did you dismiss them out of hand as drivel, preferring not to test your faith with Church-proscribed thoughts. You're a Christian, yes? You believe that your salvation depends on what I believe to be the false deification of a teacher/prophet whose original message was likely distorted by worldly princes and priests for their own purposes. All the sources you may quote to "prove" a historical Jesus existed will probably not prove his deity. Most Christians I know don't want to hear how the tenets of their religion came about a few centuries after their Savior was supposedly executed. They figure that the deity of Christ and the reality of the Trinity were formulated by Jesus himself. Feg, religions! Reminds me of the saying about laws and sausages--it's best not to watch either made. I believe in a Creator, but like the Jews, do not believe in the deification of His messengers. -- Mark McHugh Jesus is just all right with me! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moral Relativism: The Phantom Menace
-Caveat Lector- Here, here!! -- On Mon, 31 May 1999 20:47:28 nurev wrote: -Caveat Lector- Please no. What would I do without Libertarians? Let's get rid of religious psychos instead. And then let's get rid of short people. Tall Joshua2 Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/1/99 3:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's plenty of FACTS to back the existence of Jesus. Research. It's a good thing. As for the faith part, whether you believe in God or the mathematical impossibility that we just all of the sudden came into existence, they both take a matter of faith as we weren't there to observe either, one however requires a bit more. Jamie Well, well. This issue comes up quite often in this forum. It seems to me that origins of modern religious groups is certainly a matter for discussion here on the Conspiracy List. I would like to take this opportunity to caution everyone that proselytizing is not acceptable here. So take everything with a grain of salt and let's not let tempers flare. Having said that I have a couple of comments. First, ALL religions REQUIRE faith. There is no way around it. There simply is not enough evidence for it to be established as historical fact. Take Jesus for instance. There are many scholars who have done extensive research who conclude that he is a myth. Others disagree. I tend to think that there was a man who, at least loosely, fit the description for the person we know as Jesus Christ. As for his divinity, his claim (or that of those who followed him?) to be THE son of God, and all of the other trappings that surround his life it ALL requires faith. I would never try to dissuade anyone from a position of faith as it is a losing battle. There is always a fall back position, or recalcitrance. That is what makes this subject so difficult to deal with objectively. Judaism, and Islam fare no better. Though there seems to be no disagreement as to whether Mohammed lived, as for what he did and his claims to a special relationship with Allah, that again is a matter of faith. In discussing religion it is difficult to do so without our reason being affected by the foundations of our beliefs and our faith. Should someone earnestly believe that Jesus lives in them and they thereby have everlasting life, and they have peace of mind and are happy then more power to them! Whatever spirituality you wish to have, or none at all, is acceptable and should be acknowledged as such. You don't have to believe it but allow others to share their views. As for Christianity and Jesus I believe that much of what we have today is a construct that was derived from Paul and others mostly long after Jesus disappeared from the scene. It incorporates some mythology, some mystery religion, and some Judaism. Religion, and especially Christianity, due to it's hold on the west's spirituality, is a control mechanism in every sense of the word. Meant to control ones actions in some fashion. For some it is a way of life that is acceptable because it is in tune with their own inner thoughts and desires. For others it is abhorrent, serving only to try and diminish ones own personal feelings. Remember religious discussion should be done in such a way that we do not attack faith and belief but should present arguments that support the position you take, whether for or against. And remember we are a conspiracy list so this should have some bearing on the discussion. Religion IS a conspiracy in every sense of the word. It's as true now as it has ever been. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [7b] Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry John Daniel (C)1994 John Kregel, Inc. P. O. box 131480 Tyler, Texas 75713 ISBN 0-9635079-0-7 - can be purchased from: Global insights 675 Fairview Dr. #246 Carson City, NV 89701 702-885-0700 800-729-4131(orders only) --[7b]-- The Protocols, Jack the Ripper and Gentile "Non-Masons" Gentile Freemasonry refers to its initiates as Jews, refers to its lodges as Solomon's Temple, and calls non-Masons Gentiles. Likewise, a republic founded by Freemasonry and governed by Masons is by inference a Jewish nation. Conversely, a kingdom not ruled by Freemasonry, such as Russia, would be considered a Gentile nation. Christian Russia, then, would certainly be called a "Gentile government" by "them that say they are Jews, and are not, but do Stephen Knight documents the Masonic use of the word "Gentile" in The Brotherhood When a meeting is called at the Masonic Temple, he says Masons converge on the lodge from all directions. "Once inside the Hail, each turned his steps towards the Crypt, which was cordoned off so that no intruder could make his way down the stair and report the goings-on to any 'Gentile'.(71) Knight connects the Protocols to Gentile Freemasonry by examining a seemingly unrelated subject: the notorious murders of Jack the Ripper, committed in 1888 between August and November. 'The Jack the Ripper murders in the East End of London in 1888," asserts Knight, "were perpetrated according to masonic [sic] ritual and a subsequent police cover-up was led by the Commissioner and Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, both Freemasons."(72) To comprehend what is meant by "murders...according to Masonic ritual," we must understand the Masonic ceremony of the 3rd degree -- the Master Mason degree. Stephen Knight explains the Masonic ritual focus on murder: Much of Masonic ritual centres on murder. At the 3rd degree, the victim is Hiram Abiff, mythical architect in charge of the building of Solomon's temple. The ceremony involves the mimed murder of Hiram by three Apprentice Masons, and his subsequent resurrection. The three Apprentices are named Jubela, Jubelo and Jubelum -- known collectively as the Juwes [Masonic spelling for Jews]. In masonic [sic] lore, the Juwes are hunted down and executed, "by the breast being torn open and the heart and vitals taken out and thrown over the left shoulder," which closely parallels the details of Jack the Ripper's modus operardi.(73) In 1888, Sir Charles Warren was Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police and one of the country's most eminent Freemasons. Two years earlier Warren also helped found the most secret of Masonic Lodges, the Quatuor Coronati Lodge of Masonic Research. Knight reports that Warren impeded the investigation of the murders at every turn, caused endless confusion and delays, and personally destroyed the only clue the Ripper ever left. This was a scrawled chalk message on a wall inside a tenement block near the site of the fourth murder. Beneath the message was a blood-soaked piece of cloth which Jack the Ripper had recently cut from the apron of his latest victim. The message itself, according to a careful copy made by a conscientious PC who was at the scene early -- which had been concealed in the Scotland Yard files on the case for nearly ninety years before I gained access to them -- read: "The Juwes are The Men That will not be blamed for nothing" The moment he was told of this, Warren, who had not previously ventured near the East End, rushed to the place before the message could be photographed and washed it away. This has never been explained. The truth was that Warren, who had been exalted to the Royal Arch in 1861, had realized that the writing on the wall was a masonic [sicl] message. Warren, a founder of the Quatuor Coronati Lodge of Masonic Research and by the time of the Ripper murders a Past Grand Sojourner of the Supreme Grand Chapter, knew only too well that the writing on the wall was telling the world, "The Freemasons are the men that will not be blamed for nothing."(74) The significance of the word "Juwes" in the Ripper's message will not escape anyone versed in Masonic lore. As Knight pointed out in a previous book, Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution (1976], Masons refer to themselves as Jews, and use the word "Gentile," "borrowed from Hebrew and used to mean non-Masonic."(75) How does the message at the scene of the fourth "Ripper" murder shed light by analogy on who may have authored the Protocols? First, it confirms that Freemasonry establishes decoys, then calls those decoys Jews. Second, the scrawled chalk message on the wall above the scene of the fourth Ripper murder can be extrapolated and applied to all Masonic intrigues and their authors, including authors of the Protocols: 'The Freemasons are the men that will not be blamed for the Protocols." Third, by making the Protocols read like
[CTRL] Andre Malraux
-Caveat Lector- from: http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/scripts/sion.html Jean Cocteau (1918-) - an associate of Jacques Maritain and Andre Malraux, he was made a Chevalier of the Legion of Honor (for his quiet work in the Resistance?). Although associated with royalist Catholic circles, Cocteau's Catholicism was highly unorthodox and his redecorations of churches reflected Rosicrucian themes. The Modern Merovingian Connection (1) Napoleon Bonaparte "Sion appears to have been at the nexus of two French anti-monarchical movements, the Compagnie du St.-Sacrament of the 17th century (acting on behalf on the Guise-Lorraine families) and the Fronde of the 18th, as well as an attempt to make the Hapsburgs emperors of all Europe in the 19th- the Hieron du Val d'Or." - Steve Mizrach, "The Mysteries of Rennes-le-Château and the Prieure du Sion" "...In 1740, the Grand Master of the Order of Malta caused the Bull of Pope Clement XII, to be published in that island, and forbade the meetings of the Freemasons. On this occasion several Knights and many citizens left the island; and in 1741, the Inquisition persecuted the Freemasons at Malta. The Grand Master proscribed their assemblies under severe penalties, and six Knights were banished from the island in perpetuity for having assisted at a meeting." - Commander Gourdin (from A Sketch of the Knight Templars and the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem by Richard Woof) "In 1796 Napoleon was one of three revolutionary 'Directors' heading the government. Another 'Director' was Abbe Sieyes, who knew of certain genealogical researches that had been undertaken by one Abbe Pichon. Pichon had access to the royal archives captured by the revolutionary government, where some important genealogies had been hidden away, and he discovered that a direct descent from Dagobert II had been maintained up to then." "...Abbe Seiyes urged Napoleon to marry Josephine Beauhamais because she was a Merovingian descendant, and to adopt her two children by a previous marriage who were of this anciently royal stock." In 1798 "on the way to Egypt, Bonaparte detoured to capture Malta and the treasure held by the Knights of Malta." - Michael Bradley, Holy Grail Across the Atlantic "It was fortunate for the French that there was little fight left in the Knights of St. John...the last Grand Master, the apathetic von Hompesch, made only a show of resistance before accepting Bonaparte's terms...For the cost of three men killed, the French secured an invaluable naval base and a great deal of treasure..." "Over the five days following the island's capture, Bonaparte tore apart and refashioned every aspect of Maltese life. The Order of St. John was abolished and its members departed, apart from a handful who were persuaded to join the Army of Egypt...The treasures of the Order, amassed over 500 years, were promptly sequestered... and seven million francs' worth was diverted to the military chest." - David G. Chandler, The Campaigns of Napoleon "...At his coronation as Emperor in 1804 he adorned his imperial robe with the gold bee figurines which had been discovered in the tomb of Childeric I, father of Clovis. Napoleon styled himself Emperor of the Franks, not 'Emperor of the French'..." - Michael Bradley, Holy Grail Across the Atlantic A clue to the gold bee figurines on Napoleon's imperial robe may be the Sarmoung Society. (2) Vichy France "To Saint-Yves d'Alveydre the Templars stood for a policy of federation and universal peace which went back to the Carolingians of the early Middle Ages. Like many French conservative thinkers, including (many years after him) Charles de Gaulle, he felt that the ancien regime in France had take a wrong turning, responsible for its later catastrophe, which he could identify. Unfortunately his choice of the Templars as a solution to the supposed riddle of the French monarchy was wrong; they had performed none of the functions that he attributed to them, and his speculations about them were daydreams added to the old fantasies of Aroux. [who had portrayed the Middle Ages as having been penetrated by a vast Manichaean conspiracy]." "The Vichy regime legislated against Freemasonry, and co-operated with the Germans in identifying and acting against Masons. But, even within the regime itself, people were very doubtful that Freemasonry had genuinely been banished. In the so-called 'Chavin Report', which seems to have originated from within or near government circles, allegations were made that large number of people in responsible positions belonged to Masonic political groups called 'synarchist' which had been in existence since the 1920s. These synarchists were supposed to have been inspired in part by the doctrine of Saint-Yves d'Alveydre. They were represented as a group of influential politicians, businessmen, and so-called 'technocrats' who had
Re: [CTRL] Moral Relativism: The Phantom Menace
-Caveat Lector- AOL User was like: To copy wholesale every email on the libertarian group to this one should not be allowed. If you would do a little research before you post you would have noticed that the ZolaTimes web site -- at the bottom of each one of the articles -- a form is provided to e-mail the article to others; in other words, Zola encourages the distribution of his zine's articles via e-mail. As long as proper credit is given to Laissez Faire City Times and the author of the articles, there is nothing wrong with Kris posting 'wholesale every email on the libertarian group' to CTRL. Some members of CTRL -- Gavin, for one -- write for ZolaTimes.com from time to time (and some damn fine articles they are). see also: How You May Use Our Copyrights http://www.zolatimes.com/constant/copyrightopen.html You may use any of the copyrighted material in this publication on the net providing the following reservations are respected: Full credit be given the author and a link is established to www.Zolatimes.com. Kris ALWAYS does this, for EVERYTHING he posts Use for *commercial* purposes creates a liability on the part of the user whereby the copyright holder may make a claim for reasonable compensation. When possible, the copyright holder should be notified when and where such copyright is being used for *commercial* purposes. CTRL is for EDUCATIONAL purposes, not commercial. Should a copyright holder object to your usage, you must be prepared to change or remove that which may be considered objectionable by the copyright holder. Zola, Gavin, Don Lobo Tiggre, Sunni Maravillosa, et al, would have no objections to Kris promoting their ideas to a larger audience -- they would probably be more inclined to thank him for the plugs. To copy wholesale every email on any group to this one should not be allowed. I highly suggest you go back and read one of the recent Times articles: 'Is MP3 the Future of Music?' by Estaban Hill http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.20/music_mp3.html. Then you should be able to better understand the nature of the internet, and what it means for the future of information exchange. --- IMHO, CTRL is by far the best daily source of alternative information on the net. Thanks deeply Kris, keep up the fantastic work. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [7a] Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Scarlet and the Beast - A History of the War Between English and French Freemasonry John Daniel (C)1994 John Kregel, Inc. P. O. box 131480 Tyler, Texas 75713 ISBN 0-9635079-0-7 - can be purchased from: Global insights 675 Fairview Dr. #246 Carson City, NV 89701 702-885-0700 800-729-4131(orders only) --[7a]-- Chapter 13 THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF SION At first these "Protocols," printed in broadsheets by the millions, were used to stir up fear and hatred of Jews in Germany. They were then re-issued, somewhat revised, and directed at England to stir up hatred of the English. In Russia the "Protocols" were used to back up charges against the Jews for "ritual murders." Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry(1) The Jewish Holocaust of World War II fulfilled a prophecy made 150 years earlier by the Orthodox Rabbis in Germany, who warned the Frankist-Reform Jews that persecution would start at Berlin if they persisted in their amoral destruction of society. To help fulfill this prophecy, anti-Semitic Gentile Freemasonry engineered the exposure of the Jews through the fraudulent creation of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion. These Protocols, a compilation of twenty-four documents, developed the required anti-Semitism that ended in the death of six million Jews in the midst of World War II. The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion were first said to have been the minutes of the first Zionist Congress at Basel, Switzerland, August 29-31, 1897. According to Robert John, author of Behind the Balfour Declaration, the 197 Jewish delegates were a mixture of the orthodoxy, nationalists, liberals, atheists, culturalists, anarchists, socialists and capitalists.(2) In three days these Jews are said to have discussed, debated, then agreed upon a detailed conspiracy for world dominion. The alleged outcome of that Congress was a document containing the minutes to twenty-four lengthy meetings detailing how the Jewish intrigue was to unfold. It defies imagination, how Jews of such mixed convictions, who find it difficult to agree on any issue within their own persuasion, completed twenty-four Protocols in just three days. Those who read the documents were apparently convinced that Zionist Jews were planning to take over all governments through a well-orchestrated plan of subversion, using the press, secular schools, and Gentile Masonry as a cover. The Jews allegedly were planning to enslave the world through this conspiracy. Their first insurrection was to take place in Russia, which in retrospect many believed to have climaxed in the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917. So well had Gentile Freemasonry placed the Jews in the forefront of that insurrection that the West began hearing rumors of Jews taking over Russia. Appendix 2, Fig. 33 presents the caricatures of these allegations that were printed in newspapers throughout the world. History of the Protocols We have learned that Sion is the French spelling for the English Zion. The original Protocols were written in French, stolen from a Masonic lodge in Paris in 1884 (as we shall see), then taken to Russia where they were translated and first published in that language in 1903. After the first publication of the Protocols in Russia, they were banned in 1905 by the ill-fated Czar Nicholas II following an attempt to topple his government. In 1917, following the February Revolution, the new Kerensky government confiscated and burned the second edition before it reached the streets and immediately outlawed anti-Semitism.(3) On April 5, 1917, the Russian Jews won emancipation.(4) By October Kerensky's government had lost to the Bolsheviks, who, in the "Red Terror" that followed, appeared to fulfill the slaughter written of in the Protocols. After the Bolshevik Revolution, the Protocols made their way back to the West, where, from 1921 to 1935, the newspaper-reading-public of the world was made aware of their contents. Publishing the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion was a most malicious crime committed against the House of Israel. At the same time as the Protocols began to circulate throughout Europe, conspiracy researchers were attempting to connect the Bolsheviks with the Illuminati. In many ways the two movements were the same. We see this, for instance, in their colors. Weishaupt had selected the color red to represent his bloody revolution. Likewise, the Communists. Since then Communists have been nicknamed "Reds." Those who opposed the Reds formed their own republic called Belorussia, or White Russia, bordering on Poland, Lithuania, and Latvia. The Whites waged a short-lived counterrevolution against the Reds but lost in 1919 for lack of funds. When the Whites fled to the West, most settled in Germany. With them came copies of the Protocols. Soon these documents were in the hands of Hitler, who set out to rid the world of this so-called Judeo-Masonic conspiracy. Hitler's Mein Kampf makes mention of the
Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.2/2
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/1/99 7:03:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have. The majority of American prisoners are nonviolent offenders (i.e. drug users). -Original Message- From: nurev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Look at a prison. J2 I think Joshua's point is that there are no gun deaths in prison. He used it to support his argument that gun control is good and means less murder. In prison though there are NO weapons so it is not a really good example, IMO. Deaths do occur though, so whatever serves the purpose at the time will suffice, be it a shiv, a sharpened spoon, or fists. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] America Burns
-Caveat Lector- I was raised around a lot of military people, Colonels, Navy Captainssat in garden parties with General Edwin Booth who was head of the Task Force - and met a General Robert E. Lee, once the USAF most valuable man, until he got into trouble in Germany.Life Magazine had done a tremendous story on him...he used to stay at my sister and brother-in-law's housesuddenly, a nervous breakdown and my sister then went to England where Phil set up Missile Bases, BMEWS - was Thor Chief. We had two doctors in the family - I had he privilege to work with an MI6 agent for 12 years - but I am or was then, just a researcher who also was involved with the Assassination Committee headed up by Bud Fensterwald. I simply said the one letter that this Bryan Weeks, M.D., Col., Ret. Resv. did not sound like what he claims to beI know in Germany a lot of troops were brainwashed by General Walker, who hwas having a breakdown and did General Lee. His reaction to having to wheel a General's wife at Andrews AFB (now I knew the CAPTAIN, NAVY CAPTAIN) at Andrews at one timeand no officer or a gentleman, would resent rolling a pregnant woman into a hospital...in fact, in some cases this was mandatoryonly a hospital aide with no manners, would complain of something like this. So the Doctor just hated to roll around a pregnant womanhe referred to me as "mommy", and on the other hand, seems to be hawking some snake oil type medicines for cancer, that according to the Mayo Cliniic, where years ago I had a cousin, Dr. Robert Rang, a neurosurgeon, on staff, who also was in what today they would call a Mash Unit during WWII.famous for his work duirng the War..doctors do not push pregnant women around. Yet, Mr. Weeks seems to respect his mother so much, on one hand, yet on the other, is about the most obnoxious ungentlemanly individual, I have ever read about on this list. So he did not like pushing the "mommy" to be around; well, I sat on bases where my brotherinlaw was always the CO; he, was a gentlemanand an honorable man.yet, I never saw Colonels pushing around pregnant women, other than their own wives - only aides did that type of work. I do not believe that Bryan Weeks is a doctor (M.D.) or a Colonelif he is, he's not only a quack, but should have been busted. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Blood on the White House [is there no end to it?]
-Caveat Lector- The New Australian Blood on the White House and firebombed evidence By Gerard Jackson No. 121, 31 May - 6 June 1999 When it comes to protecting Bill Clinton's backside the Australian media is without peer, even putting CBS and CNN to shame. What it cannot cover up or ignore it downplays or ridicules. So sickening is its shameless support for Clinton that Murdoch's Australian even published an item by Cameron Forbes1 containing smart-aleck and misleading comments about Juanita Broaddrick. You remember her, don't you? The woman who claimed Clinton raped her. That no one seems to doubt the charge was also ignored by The Australian. This brings us to bloodgate, another scandal that American-based Australian journalists ignored or is it suppressed? When Clinton was governor of Arkansas in the 1980s he allowed the selling of HIV-tainted plasma that had been taken from convicts. Since the early 1980s the sale of convict blood in the US has been illegal. Nevertheless, exports to Canada continued for years. To make sure of sales the origin of the contaminated plasma was withheld from the unsuspecting Canadians. Once they discovered the source of the contamination they demanded that the U.S. Justice Department investigate Clinton's role in a prison program that clearly violated a 1983 FDA ban on the use of blood from convicts. Last January 1000 victims of this murderous scheme sued Canadian officials for $US1.1 billion. They plan to file a similar suit will against the FDA and the state of Arkansas, another of Clinton's victims. The main inspiration for the bloodgate inquiry came from Dr Michael Galster, a former employee of Health Management Associates, the Arkansas company contracted by Arkansas to collect and sell prison blood. By pure coincidence this company was also run by the chair of Clinton's re-election finance committee. Moreover, when the company's license was revoked by the state's medical authorities because of its poor medical practices, Clinton abused his power as governor and ordered the license to be renewed. Outraged at what Clinton did to them, those Canadian haemophiliacs who have been infected with hepatitis C and HIV are demanding justice. Last February hundreds of these victims of Arkansas political corruption gathered in Washington to condemn the man they hold responsible for their tragic plight. Dr Galster addressed the protesters and publicly accused Clinton of "personally withholding 400 cases of documents" that described HMA's shipping schemes. This is when another of Clinton's remarkable coincidences occurred. On Tuesday night the 18 May Dr Galster's Clinic in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, was firebombed leaving only a burnt out shell. DR Galster has yet to say whether documents on Clinton's bloodgate scandal were stored in the Clinic. At the same time, again by pure coincidence, someone broke into the Quebec chapter of the Canadian Haemophilia Society. The society had recently discovered documents showing that Finance Minister Paul Martin was a board member of the corporation that owned Connaught Laboratories, the company that distributed the Arkansas contaminated plasma in Canada. Like I said, just another Clinton coincidence. And where were our intrepid Australian journalists? Those bronzed media heroes of a "sunburnt country." Nowhere, is the answer. They allowed this appalling scandal to go completely unreported in the Australian media. While Stewart Cameron and Cameron Forbes of The Australian seem to forever scurry around America's political landscape reporting stories that confirm their left-wing bigotry, Clinton's scandals are never investigated. The New Australian http://www.newaus.com.au/us121blood.html Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL
Re: [CTRL] Moral Relativism: The Phantom Menace
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/1/99 6:49:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO, CTRL is by far the best daily source of alternative information on the net. Thanks deeply Kris, keep up the fantastic work. Thanks for the kind words and THANK-YOU to all the fine folks that share, for I for one could not present all the viewpoints we see each day. I thank-you all for helping in my understandings. Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A tale of two bloodgates: another media cover-up by media lords
-Caveat Lector- The New Australian A tale of two bloodgates: another media cover-up By Gerard Jackson No. 108, 21-27 February 1999 Rupert Murdoch's Australian is certainly hot on justice and political corruption. On 9 February it published a news report on the French bloodgate, following it up on the 12 February with another lengthy report. Several former French government ministers are on trial for allowing AIDS-contaminated blood to be distributed. About one thousand people died because of their actions and there is no doubt that many more will follow them. What is really mysterious, or so it at first seems, is that America's bloodgate scandal, one that may have infected about 2,000 Americans, not to mention the number of Canadians it killed, has not been reported by the Australian media, and in particular Cameron Forbes, The Australian's Washington-based correspondent, even though the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) are investigating the case. Of course, the mystery evaporates once one knows that America's contaminated blood scandal originated in Arkansas when that lovable rogue ol' Bill Clinton was governor. Once again, it is who you are that seems to count, not what you have done. The squalid story goes back, as do so many, to Arkansas in the early 1980s when Clinton was governor. HMA (Health Management Associates) won a $US3 million contract to provide medical services to Arkansas state prisons. The contract also allowed the company to collect blood from prisoners and sell it, but US health regulations didn't permit the sale of prisoners' blood within the country. However, HMA was able to evade the rules by selling the blood in Canada, with fatal consequences. When HMA had its license withdrawn by the authorities because of its poor medical practices, Bill Clinton publicly defended the company and used his authority as governor in 1985 to have its license renewed, even though the company was accused of using inmates to draw blood and had employed bogus doctors. Now why should this "potentially great" and "flawed man" (the Australian media calls him "flawed" rather than corrupt) go out of his way to support the practices of a fraudulent medical company. After all, Clinton is man who knows how to share pain or should I say inflict it? This is a man who does nothing for nothing. And so it was here. The company was headed by none other than Leonard K. Dunn, a key Clinton supporter and important donor to the Bill and Hillary charity foundation. Not only did a grateful Bill reward the generous Mr Dunn with the prison contract but he also got him appointed to the state business council. And would you believe it, the same Mr Dunn ended up with Madison Guaranty Savings Loan's assets, well what was left of them after the Clintons had got through with it. Ain't that just cosy Can't you imagine the howls of outrage from our left-wing crusading journalists if a Republican had done this. I know I can. Fortunately, even the best laid plans of rats and men go awry. DR Michael Galster was working in the prison system when HMA was operating. Using the pseudonym Michael Sullivan he wrote a fictionalized account of the scandal and called it Blood Trail. Ceasing to fear Clinton's attack machine and his media stormtroopers, Galster went public by revealing his identity. He not only accuses Clinton of organizing bribes to various state official officials to make sure that HMA could continue its blood-selling operations, he suggests that Clinton benefited financially from the operation. Though the scandal has been extensively covered by the Canadian papers, the mainstream American media has done its best to ignore it censor it would be a more appropriate description. As expected, the Australian media has also joined the 'conspiracy of silence,' even ignoring a group of former Arkansas prisoners who are launching a class action suit against the state, claiming that HMA infected them during blood donations. The revelation that the RCMP is now working with the FBI regarding criminal charges in the US is another uncomfortable fact that our fearless journalists ignored. Moreover, Vince Fosters ghost, so to speak, has also been brought into the scandal.* A Press Conference will be held on February 24 at the National Press Club in Washington to demand a federal investigation into Clinton's 'bloodgate' scandal. Will Cameron Forbes and Cameron Stewart (The Australian's New York correspondent) be there? I doubt it. Caped Crusaders they ain't. In fact, I don't even consider them to be real journalists. Forbes couldn't hotfoot it fast enough to Jasper, Texas, to report on a race-inspired murder. And Stewart couldn't get to Wyoming fast enough either when it was claimed a young man had been murdered for being a homosexual. But neither of them ever bothered to scurry down Arkansas way to investigate a single Clinton scandal. I don't know whether Clinton is genuinely guilty of any wrongdoing concerning HMA's
Re: [CTRL] MYSTERY BALLOONS LAND IN JAPAN. BIOWAR ?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/1/99 6:12:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MYSTERY BALLOONS BAFFLE JAPANESE POLICE This sounds a lot like a srory that I read about a hoax being perpetrated in Britain (I think). I'm not saying THIS is a hoax, but it brings to mind this other story. It seems there were some mysterious cylinders falling from the sky and they contained some strange things (forget what they were) and it was later revealed to be a hoax related to UFO sightings. Maybe something is in the offing. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Defending Clinton: Murdoch's Australian sinks even lower [so hot it zinged my modem]
-Caveat Lector- The New Australian Defending Clinton: Murdoch's Australian sinks even lower By Gerard Jackson No. 105, 1-7 February 1999 To say that the thought of reading Cameron Forbes' US reports fills me with foreboding would not be an understatement. I believe the public basically wants one thing from the media honesty. Well, they are not getting it from Rupert Murdoch's Australian. Last week I wrote* that Forbes' lied when he stated that DNA tests showed there was "near certainty" that Thomas Jefferson fathered Woodson Hemings, and that Forbes had done this to make Clinton look better. It is not surprising, therefore, that the man who cunningly libelled a Founding Father is perfectly willing to trash the reputation of a Republican Congressman by insinuating that he is a racist (The Australian 13/1/99). Forbes began in his usual honest and objective manner by claiming that Larry Flynt's description of Congressman Bob Barr as "Attila the Hun" was "fair". Because a Republican Congressman holds strong conservative convictions an Australian journalist compares him to a fifth century barbarian who was particularly noted for his cruelty and wanton destruction, and then tries to pass it off as fair comment. Of course, Forbes could laugh it off as mere hyperbole, just simple political point scoring. This will not do. He means what he says. This is what the Left really think of conservatives and that is why it treats them with contempt. He continued the assault on Barr's character by telling us that Barr spent eight years as a CIA agent, that he opposes homosexual marriages, is a member of National Rifle Association and that he helped put a stop to lengthy appeals by convicts on death row. Now to Forbes' left-wing mentality, these revelations are expected to prejudice readers against Barr whose real offence is to be one of Clinton's sternest critics. Getting into his stride, Forbes then accused Barr of having "been cozy with a US racist group." This is a brazen lie and it is time it was put to rest. Bob Barr was invited to address the Council of Conservative Citizens. As is the normal procedure, his staff checked out the organisation and gave it the all clear. However, it was only after Barr addressed it that it was found to be a front for a white supremacist group. When he found out, Barr immediately denounced the organisation and pointed out that if he had known its real views he would never have addressed it. And this is why the US meda has not pushed it. Yet Forbes maliciously writes as if Barr was a member of the Ku Klux Klan. The same self-righteous Forbes igored the fact that during his first run for Congress Democratic House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt spoke before Metro South Citizens Council, a prominent St. Louis white-rights organization, to ask for its endorsement. After he was elected he attended two of the group's social functions. The Metro South Citizens Council was also the precursor of the Council of Conservative Citizens, the same organisation that Forbes attacked Barr for addressing. It is facts like these that make us truly realise magnitude of Forbes hypocrisy and political bigotry. No wonder the man sickens me. Democrat Senator Robert Byrd is another who has spoken in defence of Clinton and against impeachment. Byrd is held in high regard by America's Leftist media and has even been called, among other things, the Senate's conscience. But this is the same Byrd who joined the Ku Klux Klan and who strongly opposed civil rights legislation in the sixties, all of which escaped Forbes attention but then so much does. And speaking of racism, why not a word about Jesse Jackson? The same Jesse Jackson who called New York "Hymie Town"; the very same Jesse who only four years ago shared a platform with the viciously anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan. Instead, Forbes gives readers false stories about Republican racism. And Murdoch's Australian calls this journalism. Forbes made sarcastic comments about the case of Jane Doe # 5 (26/12/98), followed by a claim that she swore in an affidavit that Clinton had not made any unwelcome advances. Well, that was another strike against the dreaded Clinton-haters, or was it? Now Jane Doe # 5, real name Juanita Broaddrick, signed her affidavit on the 2 January 1998, but on the 8 April 1998, she told the Office of Independent Counsel investigators that her affidavit was false and that her original story of being sexually attacked by Clinton is true. Even though these facts are well-known in the American media, having been aired by NBC last March, Forbes still wrote eight months later as if the affidavit had not been repudiated! (Perhaps he would like to explain how he missed the story). Moreover, the Broaddrick story is not going away. About ten days ago she was given an 8-hour in-depth interview by NBC NEWS reporter Lisa Myers. Broaddrick was assured by Myers that the interview would immediately air on Dateline. It didn't. Last Tuesday Myers
