Re: [CTRL] ime: Clinton Approves CIA Role
-Caveat Lector- NEW YORK (AP) - President Clinton has authorized the CIA to help topple Yugoslavia's President Slobodan Milosevic, Time magazine reports today. CIA computer hackers will try to meddle with Milosevic's private financial transactions and electronically siphon funds from his overseas bank accounts, What's fair for the goose ... If Red China has PROMIS software, maybe next we'll find out that all the electronic deposits headed for the US treasury are now in Beijing ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Rehnquist Court
-Caveat Lector- "The "sovereign immunity" rulings long had been a goal for Rehnquist, who in 1975 said states should not be bound by federal wage-and-hour laws. "When that ruling was overturned in 1985, he wrote he was confident his view would ``in time again command the support of a majority of this court.'' So, Rehnquist sees a conflict between "states' rights" and "HUMAN rights" ... Chief Justice Gets His Way By LAURIE ASSEO .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist got what he wanted in a series of recent Supreme Court rulings on states' rights, but he needed the swing votes of Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony M. Kennedy. ``They're the fulcrum. As they go, so goes the court,'' said Yale University law professor Akhil Reed Amar. ``What they do is call the shots'' year after year by casting the votes that tip the balance on the nation's highest court, added American University law professor Mark Hager. During the recently ended 1998-99 term, Kennedy and O'Connor each voted in the majority in all but eight of the 75 signed decisions. The other seven justices dissented from 10 to 19 times each, with Rehnquist voting in dissent 15 times. When the court voted 5-4, the majority most often included the three most conservative justices -Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas - plus O'Connor and Kennedy. But either O'Connor or Kennedy can tip the balance the other way by joining the four more liberal justices: John Paul Stevens, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer. There were 16 cases decided 5-4, and only one of those cases had both O'Connor and Kennedy in dissent. The two joined the three conservatives in the most dramatic rulings - a trio of 5-4 decisions that invoked sovereign immunity to shield states from lawsuits claiming they violated federal rights such as wage-and-hour laws or patent protections. The rulings long had been a goal for Rehnquist, who in 1975 said states should not be bound by federal wage-and-hour laws. When that ruling was overturned in 1985, his dissenting opinion said he was confident his view would ``in time again command the support of a majority of this court.'' The justices did not actually reinstate the 1975 decision, but went a long way toward it by barring many individual lawsuits against states. So whose is the dominant voice on the court? Legal experts disagree. Perhaps O'Connor, says University of Utah law professor Michael McConnell. She staked out a pro-states' rights view in her second year on the court, writing in dissent in a 1982 utility case that the majority was letting Congress ``kidnap state utility commissions into the national regulatory family.'' ``She may be the leader of this movement,'' McConnell said. But she also took the court in the other direction, joining the liberals in a 5-4 ruling in May that lets students sue schools for failing to stop other students from sexually harassing them. Kennedy sharply dissented from that decision, one reason Pepperdine University law professor Douglas Kmiec said he proved the more intriguing justice. Another reason: Kennedy wrote the main decision in the states' rights cases, a ruling Kmiec saw as a shift in direction from the court's 1995 vote to bar states from imposing term limits on members of Congress. Erwin Chemerinsky, a law professor at the University of Southern California, said he regards O'Connor and Kennedy as crucial swing votes but added, ``I also think this is the Rehnquist court.'' Rehnquist someday may best be remembered for the success of his views on states' rights - ``his most driving ideological goal with regard to constitutional law,'' Chemerinsky said. Assessing the justices' recent contributions is like watching a horse race and trying to figure out which one got its nose in front, suggested University of Colorado law professor Robert Nagel. Pepperdine's Kmiec agreed, and said such vying yields ``fairly pragmatic'' results. ``Even when they're not closely balanced in a specific opinion, they tend to be closely balanced in terms of the overall work of the court,'' he said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Racist Church
-Caveat Lector- Shooting Suspect's Church Criticized By CHRISTOPHER THORNE .c The Associated Press EAST PEORIA, Ill. (AP) - It styles itself as a religion, but the World Church of the Creator - to which alleged racist killer Benjamin Nathaniel Smith once belonged - has no altar and no place of worship. Its leader is a skinny 27-year-old who reaches dues-paying members mainly through an Internet site dripping with racism and maintained from a swastika-adorned room in his parents' East Peoria home. An Israeli flag serves as his doormat. All that's needed to join the church is $35. For that, members get a 25-page manual offering loyalty oaths and a glossary of terms like ``Rahowa'' - an acronym that stands for ``Racial Holy War'' and is used as a greeting by members. Followers also can read an Internet newsletter in which Smith, 21, was profiled last November as ``Creator of the Month'' for his efforts to distribute racist literature. To its critics, the church amounts to a loosely connected - but dangerous - group of racists and hate-mongers. Mark Potok, a researcher with the Southern Poverty Law Center, said Monday that the church is thought to have 46 chapters and several hundred active members. ``This is a religion for and created by sociopaths,'' Potok said. Hatewatch.org, which monitors hate sites on the Internet, says the church has the fastest-growing Internet presence among racist groups. The group dates back to 1973, when it was formed by Ben Klassen, a Florida real estate man from Ukraine who became wealthy after inventing an electric can opener. Klassen wrote tracts of explosive racism, urging whites to push blacks, Jews and other ``mud races'' off the face of the planet. After one group member was convicted of beating a black sailor to death in a Florida parking lot, Klassen committed suicide, swallowing four bottles of sleeping pills in 1993. The church seemed to disappear until the appearance of Matt Hale, who was made ``Pontifex Maximus'' - an ancient Roman title meaning Supreme Leader - in 1995 on a Montana ranch. Hate-group monitors say they believe the church has grown under Hale's recruiting efforts from East Peoria and with his use of the Internet. Since Smith's death, the Web site has been shut down. According to Hale, Smith joined in 1998, but allowed his one-year membership to lapse in May. Potok and others believe the World Church of the Creator is responsible for encouraging violence like the two-state shooting spree that left two dead and at least eight wounded, and ended in Smith's suicide late Sunday in Salem, Ill. While the church's Web site included a note saying it does not condone violence, it also called for a racial holy war and extermination of non-whites. Members have been convicted of murder, beatings and conspiracies to bomb NAACP offices and black churches. ``Hale and his group are not building bombs, but they are building bombers, creating shooters,'' Potok said. ``Hale is saying he's not responsible, but Hale is a hypocrite.'' Hale said he urges church members to stay within the law. Blaming the shootings on his group, he said, is akin to blaming the pope for abortion clinic bombings. Last week, an Illinois state hearing board rejected Hale's appeal for a law license. The board said Hale's beliefs and character make him ill-suited to practice law, and unable to follow the state's rules of conduct for lawyers. Smith had testified for Hale before that board in April. ``Our number one goal is to straighten out the white man's thinking,'' he told the panel. ``We're the new minority being crushed left and right.'' Smith admitted he had ``considered violent acts to achieve racial goals, but Hale counseled me to act peacefully.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NATO-Dissenter Greece Demonized
-Caveat Lector- Greece Pressured To Tackle Terrorism By BRIAN MURPHY .c The Associated Press ATHENS, Greece (AP) - Hundreds of arson strikes and bomb attacks in the last two years have left Greece increasingly at odds with the United States - a principal target for Greek terrorists. The attacks by terrorists and anarchists have also left Greece out of step with its European Union partners, who have crushed or hobbled their own urban terrorist networks. But after decades of inaction, Greek leaders may finally be heeding the calls to work harder to try to squash Europe's most elusive terrorist cell, November 17, and other smaller terrorist groups. On Monday, self-proclaimed anarchist Nikos Maziotis went on trial for a 1997 bomb at the Greek Interior Ministry. His prosecution could help ease U.S.-led demands that Greece take stronger measures against terrorism. Yet it could also become a rallying point for more attacks - especially during planned visits this month by American law enforcement and counter-terrorism officials. Four Americans and one Greek employee at the U.S. Embassy have been killed by November 17. More than a dozen U.S.-linked sites, including Citibank and car dealerships, have been attacked this year. And the price tag for security for U.S. diplomats in Greece is the highest in the world, though the exact cost is kept secret. The pressure on Greece - now listed by Washington as the reigning hub of leftist and anti-foreigner terrorism in Europe - appears part of a general U.S. security alarm following the twin bombings at embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998. The CIA and other U.S. investigators have been working alongside Greek authorities since 1975, when November 17 gunned down its first victim: CIA station chief Richard Welch. Yet U.S. officials complain they are granted limited powers and claim Greece lacks the political will or police expertise to mount a terrorist crackdown. Although they lack such tools as a national DNA registry and a special anti-terrorist forensics team, Greek authorities vigorously deny any weakness in battling terrorism. ``Greece does not have a terrorism problem,'' insisted government spokesman Dimitris Reppas, whose own office was hit by an incendiary bomb in May 1998. ``There is a real battle of perception going on,'' said John Sitilides, executive director of the Western Policy Center, a Washington-based group promoting U.S.-Greek dialogue. ``The Americans see a major problem. The Greeks don't see this with the same urgency.'' But the list of attacks - and the dearth of arrests - point to a very lopsided score. Obscure leftist groups have carried out attacks on a range of targets, including diplomatic cars and compounds and foreign businesses and institutions. The bombings are generally carried out at night and there have been few victims. But Western diplomatic sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, worry the groups could get more brazen and dangerous. November 17 is suspected of carrying out rocket attacks on the German ambassador's residence in May and several other foreign banks in recent months. It has managed to carry out 21 killings and hit dozens of targets in the past 24 years without any confirmed suspects facing justice. November 17 takes its name from the date in 1973 when the military junta ruling Greece crushed a student uprising. Over the years, its philosophy has apparently shifted from Marxism to a mix of ultra-nationalism and working-class populism. But U.S. officials fear the group could focus more on anti-NATO retaliation following the campaign against Yugoslavia, which was widely condemned by Greeks. ``The government just wants this problem to dissolve into the air,'' said Maria Bossi, a former member of Greece's anti-terrorist commission. In a step toward more international cooperation, a group of 50 Greek police officers are scheduled to spend the summer in the United States training in anti-terrorism techniques. Bossi, however, calls this ``just a nice bit of public relations.'' ``Everybody wants to get rid of this anxiety of 25 years,'' she said. ``But you need to take certain steps. They are not taking the steps.'' These would include full-time anti-terrorist detectives, devoting resources to developing data banks to cross-reference evidence and creating a witness protection network to encourage testimony, she said. But more important is the political determination. For politicians, however, the costs are potentially high. Many Greeks still see November 17 as a righteous crusader that does not disrupt the lives of ordinary citizens. There are hopes the government of Premier Costas Simitis may be less reticent than its predecessors. Simitis is seeking to rid Greece's renegade image in the EU, encourage foreign investors and boost a sagging tourism industry. Also, Greece does not want the specter of terrorism disrupting preparations for the 2004 Olympics in Athens. ``I believe the Greek
[CTRL] Fear of China Revives Philippine-US Alliance
-Caveat Lector- Fearing China, Manila Turns to U.S. By GEORGE GEDDA .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Eight years after the Philippines ordered a shutdown of American military bases on its soil, Filipino concern over Chinese actions in the South China Sea is leading to a partial revitalization of U.S.-Philippines military ties. At issue is Chinese construction on Mischief Reef, about 150 miles from Philippine territory and 800 miles from China. Manila is worried that Chinese construction there could be used to assist military operations. Neither the United States nor the Philippines is talking about reviving the sprawling U.S. bases that were once the centerpiece of a military relationship that reached a high point in 1944 when U.S. forces helped liberate the islands from Japan. Since 1951, the two countries have been bound together by a defense treaty. Nowadays, a more modest - and more politically sustainable - arrangement is contemplated, involving joint military exercises and periodic visits to Filipino ports by large U.S. military vessels. American officials declined to speculate about the possibility that the evolving relationship with the Philippines could one day bring the United States into a conflict with China. In any case, the shift in sentiment in the Philippines toward its one-time colonizer has been dramatic. In 1991, when the Philippines Senate rejected a proposed treaty governing the U.S. bases, then-Senators Joseph Estrada and Orlando Mercado were among those voting against it. Months later, the U.S. military abandoned the bases. Today, Estrada is president and Mercado is defense secretary. Both are enthusiastic proponents of renewed military ties with the United States. In late May, the Philippines Senate voted 23-5 to approve a so-called Visiting Forces Agreement, which lays the legal groundwork for the return of American servicemen. Plans are under way for joint exercises early next year. In rejecting church and Communist opposition to the proposal, Mercado said, ``Our country is weak, is extremely vulnerable to external threats and needs this alliance (with the United States) in order to protect our national interest.'' Just how far the United States will be willing to go to defend its ally is a matter of debate. Outgoing Filipino Ambassador Raul Rabe said in an interview that the United States pledged before the May vote to extend its defense perimeter into the South China Sea. U.S. officials say the administration has merely reaffirmed long-standing policy of pledging to consult with the Philippines if either party's territory is attacked - consistent with the defense treaty's language. The officials, who asked not to be identified, also seemed intent on not raising the rhetorical temperature - perhaps with a view toward someday mediating the territorial dispute between the Philippines and China, a role it could not play if it aligns itself too closely with the Filipino position. The South China Sea is but one of many territorial disputes in the region. ``We're not going to give them (the Philippines) a blank check,'' one official said. He also noted the United States has made clear its neutrality in the South China Sea dispute and he cited approvingly China's assertion that it will not interfere with freedom of navigation there. No significant U.S. weapons sales to the Philippines are contemplated, he added. If China is alarmed by the resurrection of the U.S.-Philippines military ties, it is not saying so publicly. China's ambassador to Manila, Fu Ying, told the Far Eastern Economic Review: ``We see the proposed Visiting Forces Agreement as a matter between the Philippines and the U.S.'' Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., a member of the House International Relations Committee, is alarmed by what he calls ``a massive military buildup'' by China in the region. China, he said, ``is claiming the entire area of the South China Sea This is a blueprint for war on the part of Beijing.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
[CTRL] Italy's Exiled King Wants to Go Home
-Caveat Lector- Italy's Exiled Royal Making Appeal .c The Associated Press ROME (AP) - The son of Italy's last king is appealing his forced exile from Italy to the European Court of Human Rights, a newspaper said today. Italy abolished the monarchy in a 1946 referendum and sent the last king and his family into exile. In 1948, a new constitution barred male descendants of the House of Savoy from Italian soil. The move was viewed as punishment for the family's support of Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini. Victor Emmanuel Savoy was 9 years old when he left Italy with his exiled father and he makes no claim to a throne. Now 62, he says he simply wants to visit his homeland. His decision to appeal to the human rights court in Strasbourg was triggered by an especially bitter rebuff, he said in an open letter in the English-language Italy Daily. Victor Emmanuel wrote that he was refused permission to cross the border onto Italian soil with a shipment of 60 tons of aid for the Italian Red Cross to distribute to Kosovo refugees. In his letter, Victor Emmanuel said he only wanted to spend a few hours in his homeland. Public opinion in Italy seems to favor dropping the ban on the Savoys and the lower house of Parliament in December approved a proposed constitutional amendment that would reverse the ban. But the amendment has been stuck in a Senate committee. Victor Emmanuel's father, King Umberto II, reigned for 26 days before being sent into exile. Umberto died in Geneva, where the family now lives, in 1983. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Crimes of Bill Hillary Clinton
http://www.zolatimes.com/SS/BandHmenu.html The Crimes of Bill & Hillary Clinton.url
[CTRL] William Bill Cooper John Lear
-Caveat Lector- Hi ...does anyone any more about this? http://home.worldonline.nl/~karel/ufo/people/cooper-lear/index.html William "Bill" Cooper John Lear The Fraud, The hoax and the Fight When I started looking for UFO related information on the internet, I found a lot of sites that publicised the statements by William Cooper and John Lear without further comment (I guess that's a good indication about the knowledge of UFO research that th ose site-maintainers have - none). I personally don't think that these two idiots deserve any attention, but since the wide-spread disinformation about these two, I thought it would be a good thing to expose the truth about them. For the same reason y ou won't find any of their bogus documents on this site. If it weren't that William Cooper is such an unlikely person (understatement.), his writings might have been a popular science-fiction story. William Cooper created his image as a high ranking (ex-)member of Naval Intelligence. In reality, his job consisted nothing more than setting up audio-visual equipment and sending out paperwork to the Pacific Fleet briefing teams. William Cooper was intro duced by John Lear to the UFO Research Community, and made his appearance on the Paranet BBS. After making a total ass out of himselve, this is what Michael Corbin (Paranet Sysop) has to say about him: First, I don't want to get into any protracted discussions about Bill Cooper. All I can say is that we, ParaNet, had a great deal of experience with Bill Cooper, up to and including ejecting him from the net for causing a variety of disruptions, not to mention strong attacks on other members of the net that were counter-productive to intelligent discussion. Our organization has investigated Cooper to the max and can find no truth in anything he says except that he was in the Navy, but not in the capacity that he claims. Further, the tape of the JFK driver has obviously been altered. I have a copy of that tape and I have no doubt in my mind that someone has edited it to make it look like the driver. The bottom line is that Bill Cooper just d oesn't hold water, so anything he says should be taken with a large block of salt and tongue planted firmly in cheek. During that time, a document was placed on Paranet called the "O.H. Krill Papers", wich was a very shocking story about the US shadow government, cooperation between that group and "Alien Grey's", Underground Alien Bases, new world order, and so forth. His final demise came at the moment that he was being interviewed on a TV show together with John Lear. Lear heard William Cooper use the O.H Krill name, While John Lear wanted to use the show to announce that he made the "O.H. Krill" paper as a "joke" t ogether with with John Grace (Valdemar Valerian, who heads the Nevada Aerial Research Organization), William Cooper went on to mention the fact that he had first seen this document while working for the Office of Naval Intelligence in the early 1970's. John Lear immediately pulled William Cooper aside and quietly told him, "Bill, O.H. Krill is a joke! John Grace and I used Krill from Bob Emenegger's special 'UFO's: It Has Begun' because of a woman who allegedly channeled an entity named CRYLLL. Grace ju st pulled the O.H. out of thin air!" William Cooper instantly unleashed his hostile self and in his usual denial of reality, replied that Lear was mistaken, insisting that he had seen it in 1972 while working for Naval Intelligence. He went on to say that Lear is a liar, disinfo agent, etc. and still says so up to the present day. That's what happens to all people who "cross" Cooper. He immediately proclaims them to be Evil Agents working for the Conspiracy. So William Cooper made an ass of himself and left UFOlogy long ago mainly because UFOlogists chewed him up and spat him out. (It took them a while though.) Now he spends his time ranting about the New World Order and the imminent armed take-over of the U.S. by the United Nations. He's a liar and a crook (he wants people to send him gold so he can fund the fight against the New World Order), and the last I heard of him is that he's the leader of an Anti-Government Militia. In case you would like to read more on this case, I suggeest the following articles: Bo Gritz Says Bo Gritz explains why Cooper's security clearance is bogus Lear And Loathing In Las Vegas Sections from the book "UFOs, Aliens, and "Ex"-intelligence Agents" by Lars Hansson. Behold A Stale Horse by I.M. Feddup Whistle Blowers by Don Ecker DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the
Re: [CTRL] The New World Order
-Caveat Lector- In business theory, the role of mangement is not essentialy control, but rather the combining planning, leadership, organisation and control to lead to the desired outcomes. That is management control consists of setting up the structres and rewards so that the wekers obtain the results for you. So the leaders if they have the sense will be doing something similar. They will have little direct control, but setting up the structures(institutions-organisation), creating appropiate tools for leadership(mind control, TV, political parties ) , planning institues( the tax free foundations) and putting the necessary controls( watch how the money flows- who's got the bucks). So that we the plebs do their dirty work for them. John -Original Message- From: Ric Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 July 1999 01:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The New World Order -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] If we are to go by references made on The X-Files the NWO is a little older than 50 years, born when a space ship alledgedly landed in Roswell, N.M. But is it really 50+ years old or is it much older? Thoughts? That depends on whether one considers the NWO as an outgrowth of Rothchild/Rockefeller plots [Bilderberger], Black Guelph [Brit/ Euro Royals], Illuminati, Freemasons / Knights Templar, Roman Senate / Catholic Church, or older groups. It also depends on whether one thinks that the chaotically complex mix of politico/ econono/religio/cultural forces/entities now extant is actually amenable to 'control'. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [MC] re: more masonic info
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 6 July 1999 17:35 Subject: [MC] re: more masonic info [EMAIL PROTECTED], 7/5/99 Here's more information for researchers of mind control and the possible connections to secret societies. Sincerely, Neil Brick Please note: rituals are described below and may be triggering for some. Secret and Suppressed: Banned Ideas and Hidden History, edited by Jim Keith, 1993 Feral House, $12.95 this review is from : http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-07.htm In his preface to Secret and Suppressed, Jim Keith states that "the people who direct and control the world's financial resources are, to a very large extent, the same people who control and direct the world's media." Secret and Suppressed is a guidebook to alternative views of contemporary events and world history... (which) confronts the reader with disquieting revelations on mind control, secret societies, media disinformation, cults and elite cabals. The hard evidence supplied by many of the articles is startling." About half of the articles in this anthology expose Masonic activity, how it has shaped society in the past and its influence in our lives today. In his article "Sorcery, Sex, Assassination and the Science of Political Control," James Shelby Downard writes, "For years I have been trying to draw attention to Masonic sorcery and its (alleged) relation to political control." He states that "Benjamin . was initiated into Freemasonry at St. John's Lodge in Philadelphia and ... is credited with publishing the first Masonic book in America." He identifies the "House of the Rising Sun," a Masonic meeting place for powerful political figures such as Benjamin Franklin, George Washington and George Mason, located in Fredericksburg, Virginia, which has the earliest known record of the Masonic Royal Arch Degree of York, listed in the city annals on December 22, 1753. He discusses the roots of the anti-mason political party that challenged Freemason Andrew Jackson for the presidency in 1826, and the murder of the Mormon prophet which resulted in the men of the Mormon church withdrawing from Freemasonry. He delves deeply into the JFK assassination which he believes is suffused with Masonic symbolism having to do with violence, perversion, conspiracy, death and degradation (specifically, Masonic Greening Rituals). "Masonry does not (allegedly) believe in murdering a man in just any old way and in the JFK assassination, it went to incredible lengths and took great risks to make this heinous act correspond to the ancient fertility oblation of The Killing of the King." He identifies the three hoboes arrested at the time of the assassination as "at least as important symbolically as operationally, and they compromise the 'three unworthy craftsmen' of Masonry... and a mirror or doppelganger of the three assassins who executed the actual murder." He notes that Dealy Plaza is the site of the First Masonic Temple in Dallas and home of the Blue Front Tavern, a Masonic hangout, and that important security strategy was planned for Dealy Plaza by the New Orleans CIA station which was headquartered in a Masonic temple building. He points out that Mason Lyndon Johnson appointed Mason Earl Warren to investigate the death of Catholic President John Kennedy; 33rd degree Mason Gerald Ford was instrumental in suppressing what little evidence of a conspiratorial nature reached the Commission; 33rd degree Mason J. Edgar Hoover was responsible for supplying information to the commission; and former CIA Director and 33rd degree Mason Allen Dulles was responsible for most of his agency's data to the panel. And he asks, "Would it be paranoid to suspect a panel of Nazis appointed to investigate the death of a Jew, or to suspect a commission of Klansmen appointed to investigate the death of a Negro?" In his article "Subliminal Images in Oliver Stone's 'JFK' " which follows, Dean Grace identifies Downard's Three Craftsmen; "A man in a dark suit passes three hoboes being taken into custody by police. There is a hint that the hoboes give a secret hand sign.. later.. .A man in a dark suit passes by the three tramps and gives a secret hand sign for the tramps' benefit. "Also (while) patrolman Smith is testifying on the witness stand... a tall young man wearing a dark suit... turns toward the camera and clearly gives a Masonic sign of distress... holds the palm of the left hand up and crosses it with the right hand pain down.. .at waist level.. twelve inches from the body. This is the sign of distress in the Entered Apprentice, first degree of Masonry." In his article "The Masonic Ripper," Jim Keith notes that elements brought forth by Stephen Knight in Jack the Ripper, the Final Solution suggest that the Ripper slayings may not have been the work of a lone madman but possibly the commission
[CTRL] Djinns
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/05/1999 11:21:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is it that the people in the subcontinent mostly encounter jinns, the presence of which is verified in the Holy Quran, The djinns are an entirely different matter. They don't come from another world. They live here all the time. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What Made Our Revolution Different? [Don Feder]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/05/1999 3:05:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After 223 years -- and William J. Clinton notwithstanding -- America is still the most successful experiment going. Yes, but the Rehnquist Court may have changed all that. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/05/1999 4:53:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Secondly, finding Clinton greatly lacking does not mean that a person is a Republican and believes the days of Reagan/Bush were wonderful as you keep bringing up. It is just that they were less awful than the current administration. But that's my point, Amelia. They weren't. We just didn't discuss their sex lives all day long. I remember being astonished that Reagan took a hard swing at every one of the four freedoms, and only one other person in the world seemed to notice. It was (maybe Raspberry) in an "It's My Turn" in Newsweek. I wish I could remember the administration of any president that was less or more horrible. They've all been cogs in the machine that is trying very hard to destroy our Democracy/Republic (what have you). And our "ethical, less biased press has been trying in every way to help them along. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What is truth?
-Caveat Lector- John Lee wrote: Could the following be TRUE? [Yggdrasil's WNLibrary] Nationalist Comments on the News Be sure to see two previous Comments on the News that have been moved to the permanent library; "What It Would Take to Cleanse Serbia" and Princeton Tries to Explain a Drop in Jewish Enrollment; or "What is Communism?" Sacramento synagogues torched in 'night of fire' How long are you people going to " chat " with this nazi prick? Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How Christianity Harms the Race
-Caveat Lector- books wrote: The Southern Baptist Church publishes and distributes a little booklet called "The Baptist Faith and Message" (I believe that's the correc title - it has been many years since I have looked at it). Anyway, one little sentence in it betrays (exposes) that the Southern Baptist Church is merely another Jew organization promoting Bible Slave Law. Like the Catholics and all other Judianity churches, the "canonized" bible is thier God and Jesus Christ himself has not yet been able to get Judaism out of Christianity. And you never will. AAAHH HA HA HA HA HA HA. I, the GREAT ZOG am directed to keep Christanity Jewish. The Jewish Media must stay pure to fulfill its sacred mission. Control weak minded Christians. Debase them with alien philosophies like " drugs, sex, and RR. It is I who makes good loving Christians violent. God knows, that Christian history is one long example of loving humanity and exemplary behavior for the rest of the world to emulate. Jesus said in the NT " be good slaves unto the Jews." " Be superstitious morons and believe everything that racist idiots tell you in MY name." So HE put the media in our hands that we could bring you Jimmy Swaggart, Louis Farakhan, and the great Franklin Wayne Poley. HE, was one of US. HE gave us the power to sell " The Holocaust " to poor feeble minded Christians who need to wallow in guilt. Only WE could bamboozle poor Christians into believing that there really was a WWII. WE control your government. WE invented STDs that will make your peckers fall off. WE have impregnated your women. WE make you use condoms. WE ARE THE CHOSEN!!! AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. The Great ZOG, 666 Elders of Zion Blvd. Jerusalem, Israel ( The REAL capital of the USA ) [J2] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Data Interception by Remote Transmission
-Caveat Lector- http://www.pcworld.com/shared/printable_articles/ 0,1440,11614,00.html Getting DIRT on the Bad Guys by Tom Spring, PC World From PC World Online To former detective Frank Jones, "secure network" is an oxymoron. The word "delete" isn't in his vocabulary. Password-protect your computer and you'll make his day. And if you really get on Jones' bad side, he'll take complete control of your PC -- and your first clue will be when you open your door and the boys in overcoats start flashing badges at you. If you're among the anonymous thousands of cyber bad guys who inhabit the Internet's underbelly, Jones is your worst nightmare. The retired New York City detective works on the law enforcement sidelines building software tools to help the government and police crack down on online criminals. And his latest tool is considered the ultimate weapon. Digging up DIRT Jones wrote the widely used, but little-known software program called DIRT. The program works like a telephone wiretap for computers, giving its users the ability to monitor and intercept data from any Windows PC in the world. DIRT stands for Data Interception by Remote Transmission and was originally created by Jones as a tool to help snare online child pornographers. But in the short time it has been available only to government and law enforcement agencies, DIRT is now used to battle hacker groups like Cult of the Dead Cow and to trap terrorists, drug dealers, money launderers, and spies. "What we do is give law enforcement an additional line of defense," says Jones, the president of Codex Data Systems. The DIRTy Details The client side version of the DIRT program is less than 20KB in size and is typically installed on a target PC using a Trojan horse program (a set of instructions hidden inside a legitimate program). The DIRT program is usually sneaked inside an e-mail attachment, a macro, or a workable program that a targeted user is enticed to download. Once inside a target Windows 95/98/NT computer, it gives law enforcement complete control of the system without the user's knowledge. It starts off by secretly recording every keystroke the user makes. The next time the user goes online, DIRT transmits the log for analysis. Jones says government agencies have even managed to open encrypted files by obtaining password locks. During a recent program demonstration, Jones easily uploaded and downloaded files to a DIRT-infected computer connected to the Net by a dial-up modem. Jones could upload and download files to the PC without a hint of activity on the other end. Arresting Developments If you think this sounds like B-grade fiction, it isn't. During a recent meeting of high-ranking federal and state gumshoes, DIRT received glowing software reviews. Many cited long lists of arrests thanks to Codex. One police detective said DIRT has become a powerful tool in fighting crime online. It aids criminal investigations and results in about one arrest each month. Most of those arrested were suspected pedophiles, he said. The hardest part of using DIRT, say its users, is getting owners of targeted computers to download the Trojan horse programs. Typically law enforcement tries to entice a targeted individual to download a program or a compressed file that must be "un-zipped" which contains the DIRT bug inside. Because the program is not available to the public, DIRT is undetectable using virus scanning software, Jones said. "The only way to avoid DIRT is to ignore your e-mail," he says. Fighting Fire With Fire Jones says law enforcement desperately needs these tools to turn the tide in its battle against online crime. "Law enforcement is outgunned," he says. In an age where hacking horror stories have become front-page news, DIRT gives law enforcement an effective tool to even the score and catch the bad guy. On one recent occasion DIRT was used to track a suspected drug dealer as he zigzagged across the country from client to client selling methamphetamines. His big mistake, police say, was keeping a client list on his laptop and logging into the Net each night to stay in touch with business associates and friends. Using DIRT, police tracked his whereabouts each night and took notes on who his associates were. The alleged drug dealer was eventually arrested as he was surfing the Net in a San Jose, California motel room. A Form of Flattery? Though DIRT is restricted to military, government, and law enforcement agencies, the "Back Orifice" hacker tool offers some similar tricks. Jones maintains that its inventor, a member of the hacking group Cult of the Dead Cow, attended Codex's first public demonstration of DIRT more than a year ago and slapped together an "imitation" of DIRT based on what he saw. "Close, but no cigar," Jones says. But according to Mike Hudack, editor of Aviary-mag.com, an
[CTRL] Artifacts redefine America's pre-history
-Caveat Lector- http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9907/02/t_t/ old.south.dig/index.html Bonanza of ice-age artifacts redefine America's pre-history July 2, 1999 ALLENDALE, South Carolina (CNN) -- A virtual gold mine of ice-age artifacts recently found on the banks of the Savannah River in South Carolina is forcing archeologists to revise theories for how and when humans first migrated to North America. Al Goodyear with the University of South Carolina oversaw the dig, which involved dozens of volunteers and scientists. "I think what is tantalizing about this site is we may have different cultures coming into the New World that we didn't even know about," he says. From the artifacts uncovered at this site, such as crude stone tools, archeologists say it is reasonable to believe that humans could have lived in the area anywhere from 15,000 to 20,000 years ago. That time frame defies the long-held "Clovis" theory that humans only reached the New World on a land path from Asia. Now there is stronger ammunition that others may have come from Southeast Asia or Europe, much earlier than 11,000-year-old artifacts found in Clovis, New Mexico, suggest. "This is an extremely important New World site in deciphering when people came to North America," Goodyear says. Digs in Monte Verde, Chile; West Virginia, Virginia; Pennsylvania and now South Carolina all suggest cultures older than 12,000 years. "This is so far the star of the show, what we refer to as a measuring pit microblade," says Dennis Stanford, a Smithsonian Institution anthropologist. Sean Maroney is a graduate student who worked on the dig. "The discoveries are not as sexy as human bones or animal skulls," says Maroney. "But they do provide insight about our tough-as-nails ancestors." Maroney showed a stick with a rock mounted on it. "Arm yourself with a stick and a rock on it and think about going after an African elephant," he says. "It's gonna give you a real appreciation for what these people did and how they had to survive." Goodyear and his colleagues have worked on this site since 1983, but this year's discoveries could pay off with a re-writing of history. Correspondent Marsha Walton contributed to this report. RELATED STORIES: Explorer Ballard says he's found oldest shipwrecks ever discovered June 23, 1999 http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9906/23/israel.shipwrecks.ap/ Ancient bones may rewrite theory of earliest Americans June 8, 1999 http://www.cnn.com/NATURE/9906/08/ancient.woman/ Ancient California bones could change land-bridge theory April 11, 1999 http://www.cnn.com/US/9904/11/ancient.woman/index.html Stonemason refuses to cut up ancient stone circle February 15, 1999 http://www.cnn.com/US/9902/15/miami.circle/ RELATED SITES: Smithsonian Institution http://www.si.edu/ University of South Carolina http://www.sc.edu/ © 1999 Cable News Network. All Rights Reserved. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Internet danger looming (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: Gary Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 Subj: L.A. Times column, 7/5/99 Monday, July 5, 1999 DIGITAL NATION Troubling Implications of Internet's Ubiquity By Gary Chapman Copyright 1999, The Los Angeles Times Early last month, institutions around the world were crippled for several days by a new computer virus called the ExploreZip Trojan horse. A Trojan horse, in computer jargon, is a nasty software program that hides inside a file a user is likely to want to see or open. The ExploreZip virus -- more accurately, a computer "worm," which spreads more automatically than a virus -- affected machines running Microsoft's Windows operating system and Windows application software. Computers throughout the world were shut down, including some at Microsoft and other large corporations as well as the Pentagon. The ExploreZip worm was a more debilitating version of the Melissa virus that struck Windows machines earlier this year. Because of the apparent vulnerability of Windows-based machines, some computer experts have started to use the metaphor of a "monoculture" to describe our current computing predicament. The word "monoculture" comes from ecology and biology, another example of the merging of biological terms with computer jargon, like "virus" and "worm." In ecology, monoculture refers to the dominance or exclusive prevalence of a single species or genetic type in an ecological system -- a state typically regarded as pathological and dangerous. Agricultural monocultures, for example, are highly susceptible to blight, soil depletion, disease and other disasters. In computing, the recent use of the term has referred to the widespread dominance of Microsoft products. But we may want to extend the metaphor further and contemplate whether we're developing a universal digital monoculture, one with a troubling potential for negative side effects. Think of it as the perils of digital convergence. By now, nearly everyone assumes that almost everything we do will be absorbed into the digital "infosphere" -- as in IBM's advertising phrase "Connecting everything to everything." It's only a matter of time before television, radio, music, games, commerce and politics are assimilated into the Internet. This phenomenon is growing every day. We're about to step into the so-called "post-PC" era, when networked computing will permeate our homes and everyday objects such as refrigerators, telephones, cars and stereos. This model is known as "ubiquitous" or "pervasive" computing, when the Internet will be present in everything and everywhere. But few people stop to think of the vulnerabilities this might entail. Recently there's been a controversy on the Internet over a new product called Third Voice (http://www.thirdvoice.com), from a company of the same name based in Redwood City, Calif. Third Voice is a free browser plug-in (currently it only works with Windows and Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0) that allows users to create and see notes or messages attached to Web pages by other, independent users. The messages attached to pages are listed in a small menu bar on the left of the browser screen. When the list is clicked, the messages pop up over the Web page like digital Post-It notes. Third Voice advertises its product as a way for users to have their own say about Web content. Others have called it, pejoratively, "Web graffiti." The controversy was generated by Web masters and Web designers who don't like having their pages "defaced" by this product -- it puts the appearance of their pages beyond their control, and, some of them argue, it may be a copyright violation. The interesting thing about Third Voice, however, is how it works. The content of the Web page it modifies is not altered on the originating server. The messages are simply stored on Third Voice's own computers and merged with the Web page when a Third Voice user requests the page. The messages then become a kind of "overlay" on the original content, which is otherwise unaltered and available for viewing by other users in its original form. It will be interesting to see if this product provokes litigation and if so, how that unfolds. But the real impact of Third Voice, along with the recent viruses we've seen, is their demonstration of the malleability of digital data, especially given their common format on the Internet. As we embed the Internet into everything we do and use, it's as if we're building a global nervous system that can be tweaked or twitched in infinite, unexpected and perhaps unpleasant ways by anyone clever enough and using the right tools. One could use the examples of Third Voice, viruses and the hundreds of automated network "agents," or "bots" -- software programs that roam the Internet and perform tasks specified by their users -- to speculate on mind-boggling scenarios for
Re: [CTRL] William Bill Cooper John Lear
-Caveat Lector- Bill Cooper was a member of this list over a year ago and antagonized virtually everyone with name-calling and refusal to answer questions about his organization, called Harvest Trust. He was giving out information about federal income taxes that I was afraid would get people into legal trouble, but he refused to take responsibility for the disinformation. I found him to be arrogant and abusive, and for that reason found no credibility in anything else he had to say. Linda -Original Message- From: Nicky Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 4:27 AM Subject: [CTRL] William "Bill" Cooper John Lear -Caveat Lector- Hi ...does anyone any more about this? http://home.worldonline.nl/~karel/ufo/people/cooper-lear/index.html William "Bill" Cooper John Lear The Fraud, The hoax and the Fight When I started looking for UFO related information on the internet, I found a lot of sites that publicised the statements by William Cooper and John Lear without further comment (I guess that's a good indication about the knowledge of UFO research that th ose site-maintainers have - none). I personally don't think that these two idiots deserve any attention, but since the wide-spread disinformation about these two, I thought it would be a good thing to expose the truth about them. For the same reason y ou won't find any of their bogus documents on this site. If it weren't that William Cooper is such an unlikely person (understatement.), his writings might have been a popular science-fiction story. William Cooper created his image as a high ranking (ex-)member of Naval Intelligence. In reality, his job consisted nothing more than setting up audio-visual equipment and sending out paperwork to the Pacific Fleet briefing teams. William Cooper was intro duced by John Lear to the UFO Research Community, and made his appearance on the Paranet BBS. After making a total ass out of himselve, this is what Michael Corbin (Paranet Sysop) has to say about him: First, I don't want to get into any protracted discussions about Bill Cooper. All I can say is that we, ParaNet, had a great deal of experience with Bill Cooper, up to and including ejecting him from the net for causing a variety of disruptions, not to mention strong attacks on other members of the net that were counter-productive to intelligent discussion. Our organization has investigated Cooper to the max and can find no truth in anything he says except that he was in the Navy, but not in the capacity that he claims. Further, the tape of the JFK driver has obviously been altered. I have a copy of that tape and I have no doubt in my mind that someone has edited it to make it look like the driver. The bottom line is that Bill Cooper just d oesn't hold water, so anything he says should be taken with a large block of salt and tongue planted firmly in cheek. During that time, a document was placed on Paranet called the "O.H. Krill Papers", wich was a very shocking story about the US shadow government, cooperation between that group and "Alien Grey's", Underground Alien Bases, new world order, and so forth. His final demise came at the moment that he was being interviewed on a TV show together with John Lear. Lear heard William Cooper use the O.H Krill name, While John Lear wanted to use the show to announce that he made the "O.H. Krill" paper as a "joke" t ogether with with John Grace (Valdemar Valerian, who heads the Nevada Aerial Research Organization), William Cooper went on to mention the fact that he had first seen this document while working for the Office of Naval Intelligence in the early 1970's. John Lear immediately pulled William Cooper aside and quietly told him, "Bill, O.H. Krill is a joke! John Grace and I used Krill from Bob Emenegger's special 'UFO's: It Has Begun' because of a woman who allegedly channeled an entity named CRYLLL. Grace ju st pulled the O.H. out of thin air!" William Cooper instantly unleashed his hostile self and in his usual denial of reality, replied that Lear was mistaken, insisting that he had seen it in 1972 while working for Naval Intelligence. He went on to say that Lear is a liar, disinfo agent, etc. and still says so up to the present day. That's what happens to all people who "cross" Cooper. He immediately proclaims them to be Evil Agents working for the Conspiracy. So William Cooper made an ass of himself and left UFOlogy long ago mainly because UFOlogists chewed him up and spat him out. (It took them a while though.) Now he spends his time ranting about the New World Order and the imminent armed take-over of the U.S. by the United Nations. He's a liar and a crook (he wants people to send him gold so he can fund the fight against the New World Order), and the last I heard of him is that he's the leader of an Anti-Government Militia. In case you would like to read more on this case, I suggeest the following articles: Bo Gritz
Re: [CTRL] Press less biased? HARDLY
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/6/1999 7:33:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wish I could remember the administration of any president that was less or more horrible. They've all been cogs in the machine that is trying very hard to destroy our Democracy/Republic (what have you). And our "ethical, less biased press has been trying in every way to help them along. So true. In my opinion the press is the machine driving this destruction. The press is heady that it "represents" public opinion. Of course it does not. It doesnt even report on what public opinion is. The press is heady with the idea that it creates public opinion. It is quite unfortunate that it indeed does. Because the sheeple BELIEVE the lie that the press explicates what the public thinks and feels when in actuality the press is just spinning the political and/or sensational angles of an event. Want proof? Look at how much Clinton grovels to public opinion. In his mind it is represented by focus groups, or he thinks he can figure out all the bad press the independent media might give him if he proceeds with a certain plan. The guy doesn't seem to have an independent DNA strand in his aging, chubby body; he is unable to act without advisors; he is unable to think of novel solutions to problems let alone execute them; and even his platitudinous drivel has gotten tired to even Al GoreBore. Clinton's independence seems only to be in areas outside of politics, such as adultery. Perhaps because he is a pathological liar, lying with a good straight choir boy face. But, Gore will be far worse. Whereas whatever agenda Clinton has that is independent from the Illuminati and NWO chieftans is benign to us, not so with Gore. In my view he does not have a sufficiently developed ego to have true independence from those chieftans. His independent agendas will just be to stop Americans from smoking and listening to Satanic music. I think I will be voting Taxpayer Party again. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Broeder Bond 3(b)
-Caveat Lector- 5Political Triumph - the 1948 Election Victory The Broederbond played a decisive role in the unexpected Nationalist victory of 1948, which placed South Africa on a totally new course. The Brocdcrbond supplied the political leaders to make the victory possible. Virtually all the members of Dr D F Malan's Cabinet were also members of the Super-Afrikaner society. They were imbued with the same idealism and determination to ensure an Afrikaner victory at the polls. They masterminded the symbolic oxwagon trek of 1938, which united Afrikaners emotionally and facilitated the later political unity (see Chapter 4). They supplied the National Party with the policy of apartheid or separate development, which became a powerful political slogan in contrast to General Smuts's indecisive attitude to racial matters (see Chapter 3). They united Afrikaners politically, in spite of sharp differences of opinion and approach between, for instance, the Ossewabrand-wag and the National Party. They took over the Mineworkers' Union, which swung six vital seats on the Witwatersrand and enabled the National Party to win the election with a majority of six seats. Soon after the emotion of the oxwagon trek had died down, the shadow of the Second World War also fell over South Africa - and Afrikanerdom. Even the emotional unity experienced at Monument Koppic was shattered, and division in Afrikaner ranks became deeper then ever. Smuts won the vote in Parliament supporting the war, and Hertzog had to resign as Prime Minister. For a short while he and Malan were reconciled but that, too, was to be shattered. Smuts called for volunteers to go and fight and, according to F A van Jaarsveld,' "a great percentage, if not the majority, of the white military forces consisted of Afrikaners." In the anti-war emotion characterising a strong section of Afrikaners, a new militant organisation, the Ossewabrandwag, thrived. It soon had 300 000 members, held military parades and 108 rallies, cheered British setbacks and Nazi triumphs. Sporadic sabotage occurred, and some members of the organisation were interned without trial by the Smuts Government. Among those jailed at Koffiefontein, but never proved guilty of anything, was young Advocate John Vorster, then an OB general, and later Prime Minister of South Africa, Hendrik van den Bergh, later to become his security adviser, and P J Riekert, his economic adviser. The confusion, division and political impotency in Afrikaner ranks had hardly ever been greater, says van Jaarsveld. "It was a condition which reminded one of the period of civil war in the Transvaal from 1860-1864." Apart from Malan's National Party and Hans van Rensburg's Ossewabrandwag, there was also the Afrikaner Party, made up mostly of Hertzog followers and led by Klasic Havenga. I The Broederbond's first attempt to heal the breach in Afrikanerdom came after the split between Hertzog and Malan in 1940. The reason for the split, a smear story in Nationalist ranks that Hertz He was collaborating with the Freemasons, was investigated by a committee of Nationalist Members of Parliament, headed by the chairman of the Broederbond, Professor J C van Rooy of Potchefstroom. The commission found that the Freemason story could not be regarded as "the primary reason" for the break, but that it created confusion and mistrust and "indirectly affected detrimentally attempts at reunion."2 It exonerated the Free State Nationalist leaders, Dr NJ van der Merwe and Advocate C R Swart, from blame for the Freemason gossip story. As the reason for the break, it cited a misunderstanding on General Hertzog's part as to the form of the party he and Malan had tried to establish. General Hertzog was obviously being written off as a force in the political war that was to come. In spite of his stature, he was regarded as too soft on Republicanism and too conciliatory on English-Afrikaans co-operation. Because the Ossewabrandwag did not have a specified role in the Afrikaners' political and cultural life, negotiations between the militant organisation and the Herenigde Nasionale Party took place. At the Cape Congress of the party held at Cradock in 1940, Dr Malan announced that agreement had been reached: although the two organisations would co-operate, the party would be active politically and the Ossewabrandwag in non-political areas such as the economic, moral and religious advancement of the Afrikaner 109 nation. The Ossewabrandwag would work for Afrikaner unity and refrain from underground revolutionary activity.3 The anticipated new unity was shattered in January 1941 when a group of Hertzog supporters split off and formed the Afrikaner Party under the leadership of General E A Conroy, (later replaced by Havenga) with 12 other members of Parliament supporting him. This would become the political home of many OB members.
[CTRL] The Broeder Bond 3(c)
-Caveat Lector- From The Super Afrikaners-Ivor Wilkins and Hans Strydom 1978 (note the power of the symbolic action to a susceptible population) 4The Symbolic Oxwagon Trek of 1938 It is difficult to find another single event which stirred Afrikaner emotions more between the Anglo-Boer War and the Second World War than the symbolic oxwagon trek of 1938. Not even the people who planned and organised it, the Afrikaner Broederbond, had the faintest idea it would be such an overwhelming success. It served to reunite Afrikaners in one nationalism and played a most significant role in the 1948 election victory. A year after the Trek, the war divided the Afrikaners and the Ossewabrandwag created a split in the National Party; but it was all temporary. Deep down the Afrikaners wanted unity, and the symbolic trek emphasised this. As soon as the war was over the deep divisions healed and a political unity was found which led to a victory through the ballot box. Looking back today, it is impossible to see how this could have been achieved without the emotional binding force of the symbolic trek. It created the opportunity for Afrikaners to be together, to experience the satisfying feeling of a nation on the march, of agreement rather than divisions. What started as a fairly inconspicuous attempt to celebrate the centenary of the Great Trek by sending a team of oxwagons from Cape Town to Pretoria became a rousing national movement. At the final celebrations 200 000 Afrikaners camped for days at Monument Koppie, the site chosen for the Voortrekker Monument to be completed about 10 years later. Along the route to Pretoria thousands of Afrikaners - some travelling hundreds of miles came to see the oxwagons, to touch them, to pray by them. The oxwagon trek was one of the Broederbond's greatest master-strokes. Realising the division in Afrikaner ranks and the absolute necessity for unity to prepare for political victory, they staged it as an emotional rally. The opportunity was ideal. It was 100 years since the Great Trek when the Voortrekkers went north, one of the most important reasons being the desire to escape British rule. The celebrations planned by a central committee headed by 97 Dr E J Jansen, a prominent Broeder and then Speaker of the House of Assembly, were to peak on December 16, Dingaan's Day, at Monument Koppie where the foundation stone for the Voortrekker Monument was to be laid. No doubt this would have been an impressive ceremony on its own, but it was the oxwagon trek which turned it into a national crusade. The idea came from the Afvikaanse Tual en Kultur vereniging of the Railways (Afrikaans Language and Cultural Society of the Railways), a cultural front organisation of the Broederbond. The ATKV was formed by Henning Klopper, one of the three young men who founded the Broederbond on the koppie in Johannesburg in 1918. When he formed the ATKV on the Rail-ways it had only 200 members; five years later it had 50 000 and today it is probably the largest formally organised Afrikaans cultural association. Who was Henning Klopper who had played such an important part in forming the Broederbond and the ATKV? Like other prominent Broeders, Danic du Plessis and Willie Heckroodt, he worked on the Railways. He joined when he was 15 at a salary of f4 a month, and worked hard to spread his belief in Afrikanerdom. His role in the oxwagon trek made him a national hero among Afrikaners. Not only was he the founder of the ATKV who had organised the trek, but they had nominated him as trek leader. At all the main celebrations along the route he was the central figure, making speeches and passing on the message of Afrikaner unity. Henning Klopper is convinced that it was the symbolic oxwagon trek that paved the way for the 1948 election victory for the National Party and the subsequent referendum majority which led to the Republic. "It was this dynamic movement which gave expression to the aspirations of the Afrikaners, and united them at the time when division among Afrikaners was at its greatest, and their feelings were bitterest," he says. When Klopper left home to join the Railways, his mother gave him a Bible and said: "Read it every morning and evening." Fifty years later he said: "I never let her down." At that stage he had read the Bible from cover to cover 22 times. It takes him 10 to 18 months to read it though once. He does not smoke or drink and in the true spirit of the Broederbond, abhors "loose morals". Like the Broederbond, which expels members involved in a divorce, he sees divorce as an evil 98 practice "undermining the morals of the people." He feels clergymen should "put their foot down and take the lead in stamping out this evil." In all his readings of the Bible, he says he has found nothing to shake his belief in apartheid. "We are not all created the same. We are created to be what we are - not something
[CTRL] The Broeder Bond 3(a)
-Caveat Lector- From The Super Afrikaners-Ivor Wilkins and Hans Strydom 1978 Only recommended for people interested in SA history or those in how secret power societies work. The broederbond was infiltrated and destroyed, but it shows the power that a well placed small group of people can have over an unsuspecting society. (remember that Smuts was also a member of a secret society-the round table- see Mr Quigleys works) 3 Smuts No sooner had the Broederbond disposed of Hertzog than a new and even more dangerous enemy appeared. He was General Jan Smuts. If Hertzog's years as Fusion Prime Minister had been marked by Afrikaner division,Smuts's rise to power heralded prolonged and bitter hostility. World War Two, the issue on which he came to power, split the country's white factions far apart. A great many Afrikaners vigorously condemned Smuts's determination that South Africa should participate in "England's war". For some this feeling went even further, to an open sympathy with the Nazi cause. Hitler's quick climb to ascendancy greatly attracted a number of Afrikaner Nationalists, as did developments in Nazi Germany. So much so, in a number of cases, that a feeling of general sympathy was translated into active support for Germany's struggle. The Broederbond numbered among its ranks many such supporters. The organisation which had striven in cultural matters to keep English- and Afrikaans-speaking elements apart, and thus reinforce Afrikaners of an exclusive Afrikanerdom, arranged for a few selected Afrikaans students to go to Germany and study methods employed there in the education of the nation's youth.' Dr Nico Diederichs was one who went across to study and report, and qualified as a quisling in the Nazi's Anti-Komitern training school.3 According to Malherbe4 who was Smuts's Director of Military Intelligence, as early as 1934 Hitler had sent a spy to South Africa, a German professor, Graf von Duerckheim Mont martin, to ascertain what elements in South Africa could be relied upon to collaborate with Nazi Germany in the event of a war with Great Britain. His findings were said to have been sent to Hitler in a secret report. A copy of this report was found by South Africa's military intelligence among the papers seized at the headquarters of the German diplomatic representative in South West Africa in 1940 76 when the South African forces moved in. The report stressed, inter a, the furtherance of German Kulttrr by means of subtle propaganda and by encouraging South African students to go to German universities, and the exploitation of anti-English sentiments among Afrikaners. Von Duerckheim held a prominent position in von Ribbentrop's organisation during the 1939-45 World War. He was, however, liquidated towards the end of the war when it was found that he had a Jewish grandmother. Dr Malherbe goes on: "With South Africa's participation in the war, anti-British feelings flared up with renewed fervour. A number of prominent Afrikaner leaders became openly pro-Nazi and found expression of their ambitions in flamboyant organisations such as the Grey Shirts and the Ossewabrandwag. The latter organisation, under the leadership of Dr Hans van Rensburg, was openly militant and opposed to General Smuts's war effort. He soon counted more members than there were in Smuts's army. Among these were a large number of teachers and even Dutch Reformed ministers. South Africa's former Premier, Mr Vorster, occupied a high position as Assistant-hoof Kommandant. Dr Verwoerd had strong Nazi sympathies, and his paper, the Transvaler, was jubilant over the initial reverses of the Allied forces on land and sea. Likewise it was filled with gloom when the Nazis started losing. "It was hoped that with a German victory South Africa would become 'freed from the British yoke' and at last achieve the Broederbond ideal of an independent Afrikaner republic, excluding the British and the Jews. In the anti-war propaganda Smuts was made out to be a traitor to the Afrikaner cause in fighting for the British not (as was the case) with the British . . . Meanwhile, through a powerful broadcasting station at Zeesen (Germany) pro-German propaganda in Afrikaans was pouring into South Africa over the radio. Its programmes were avidly listened to because of the excellent music and good reception, far better than that of the British Broadcasting Corporation or the local South African Broadcasting Corporation. "Immediately following on the music programme came the most venomous anti-British and anti-Jewish talks in Afrikaans by Dr Erik Holm, a young South African teacher who was studying in Germany at the time.5 He was employed by the Nazis and paid by Goebbels himself . . .There can be no doubt that this slimy, hate-generating stuff which was poured nightly in Afrikaans into South African homes must have left its mark on the receptive 77 minds of the Afrikaner youth at the time.
Re: [CTRL] How Christianity Harms the Race
-Caveat Lector- Looks like the Great Zog is demon possessed. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: WND - Deadline For CHINA-GATE
Charles Smith will be on the Michael Reagan show tonite 7/6/99 - check for show times! Realaudio info at: http://www.reagan.com -- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/19990706_xcsof_deadline_c.shtml On June 29, 1999, Federal Judge Robert Payne ruled against the Commerce Dept. in the China-Gate scandal. Judge Payne has ordered the Commerce Dept. to release documents on meetings between Clinton officials and Chinese Army officers. Judge Payne ordered the Commerce Dept. to comply by July 12, 1999, and to release documents that are being withheld from the public. Additionally, Judge Payne found the Commerce Dept. had not completely released all the required documents as per his original Court order issued in March, 1999. According to Judge Payne, the Commerce Dept. submitted a request to withhold certain documents, "yet no copies were provided to the Court." Payne ordered the Commerce Dept. to deliver the withheld documents for his personal inspection behind closed doors "not later than 5:00 p.m., July 12, 1999." According to Payne, the Commerce Dept. must "provide copies of the foregoing documents to the Court for in camera review." Payne also found that the Clinton administration had attempted to classify a 1996 Defense Dept. report that had previously been released to the public. According to Payne, "According to the plaintiff, the following documents have previously been provided and accordingly, the defendant's current claim of exemption is DENIED AS MOOT." The 1996 DOD report that the Commerce Dept. wanted to keep secret is actually a detailed series of questions and answers from House National Security Chairman Rep. Spence (R-NC). Rep. Spence was concerned over reports detailing the transfer of an advanced, ATT, secure, communications system to the Chinese Army by Clinton officials. The DOD replies show the conflict of interest between Defense Secretary William Perry and PLA General Ding Henggao. According to the report, Perry's "civilian" DOD consultant, Dr. John Lewis, was in business with PLA General Ding's wife, Lt. General Madam Nie Li. Dr. Lewis, a close friend of Perry and a fellow professor at Stanford University, accompanied Perry on trips to China as a "civilian consultant" to the Secretary of Defense. Dr. Lewis and General Ding's wife, Lt. General Madam Nie, were paid executives in a joint venture between Lewis's U.S. firm, SCM/Brooks Telecommunications, and a PLA owned firm, called Galaxy New Technology. The result was the transfer of an advanced, ATT, secure fiber-optic communications system directly to the PLA General Logistics Division. That system was obtained by the Chinese Army through Dr. Lewis and Dr. Perry. According to another document forced from the Commerce Dept., Sec. Perry, and Dr. Lewis met on official U.S. government business with General Ding in Oct. 1994, at the same time Lewis was in business with Ding's wife. Thus, Lewis was being paid by the U.S. and Chinese military - at the same time. Lewis and Perry, accompanied by Commerce Dept. official Barry Carter, met with the top of the communist Army elite in China. The list of PLA attendees at the 1994 "Joint Defense Conversion Commission" includes General Ding, General Huai, Major General Deng and Major General Hou Gang, Deputy Director of Chinese Army Intelligence HQ. Clearly, the Commerce Dept. did not inspect the original SOFTWAR China-gate lawsuit. The entire 1996 DOD document that Commerce refused to release was provided as evidence to the Court in the original lawsuit filed in November, 1998. In fact, the entire Dept. of Defense document has been on the SOFTWAR internet web site since September 1998 and is available for public viewing: http://www.softwar.net/dod.html In addition, Payne noted that the Commerce Dept. had not completed the appropriate clearances for some of the documents submitted for his "in camera" review. According to Judge Payne, one document states, "all '[r]equests for this document from outside the U.S. Government must be referred to the Defense Intelligence Agency, Washington D.C. 20340-0001.'" "Not later than 5:00 p.m., July 12, 1999," wrote Payne. "The defendant shall file a statement with the Court indicating on what date the plaintiff's request was referred to the Defense Intelligence Agency and what that agency's response was, or if none has been received, the expected response date." The contacts between Commerce officials, major DNC donors and Chinese Generals included detailed information provided by the CIA, DIA and NSA. For example, the Commerce Dept. released a letter showing the White House provided information from a U.S. "intelligence agency" to DNC donors. The letter from Commerce lawyers informs a U.S. "INTELLIGENCE AGENCY" that bios for a Brown trade trip, detailing the Chinese communists leadership, were to be released to this reporter. The released documents
Re: [CTRL] How Christianity Harms the Race
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: AOL User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looks like the Great Zog is demon possessed. Misfiring alien implant, eh? bzzt Damn implants... bzzt DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 7/6/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Gates vs. Jobs Machiavellian Super-Nerds Eat Silicon Valley Computer geek chic THE richest man in the world is finding out the hard way that money can't buy you love - or even good publicity. Already tarnished from the Microsoft anti-trust trial, Bill Gates, 42, is soon to be portrayed to the world as a charmless opportunist who founded his immense empire on the deal of the century. The Pirates of Silicon Valley, an exhaustively researched TV drama due to air next month, paints Gates as a Machiavellian and scheming super-nerd. But for a single moment of "inspiration", he might have sunk into the comfortable obscurity enjoyed by his father, a wealthy merchant banker, the movie alleges. It alleges that soon after forming Microsoft as a Harvard drop-out in 1975, Gates and his partner Paul Allen opportunistically built upon the software of a rival company to produce the DOS computer operating system. This was the foundation of Gates's estimated $80 billion fortune when IBM licensed it as the software to run the first-ever affordable mass computer. Soon DOS was transformed into the standard of the computer industry. Receiving a handsome cut on every PC sold, Microsoft was on its inevitable way to becoming the most powerful company of the information age. Microsoft officers who have examined the movie dismiss it as "historically and factually incorrect". They say that Gates is unlikely to seek an injunction against the screening or to sue for libel for fear of bestowing legitimacy on what they regard as an "insignificant TV movie". They also fear a further backlash in public opinion if Gates is seen using his wealth to keep critics quiet. But Gates-baiting is nothing new. He has long been reviled in Silicon Valley, where Microsoft is called the "Evil Empire" and its Windows system, though dominant in the computer market, is dismissed as unreliable, inelegant, expensive and inferior. The trial deepened the anti-Microsoft sentiment by revealing the predatory and arrogant nature of Gates' business practice. Even when he embarked on a whirlwind of chat-show appearances and huge charity donations, many dismissed it as a blatant and cynical ruse to polish his tarnished image. But while Gates's steely personality has been exposed in the past by critical biographers, Pirates of Silicon Valley marks the first time his dramatised story will be told to an American public hungry for scandal about the computer titan. Such accounts have been dismissed in the past as of interest only to hard-core technophiles, but with the rise of what Entertainment Weekly called "computer geek chic", Pirates is assured an audience of millions. Sociologists say the cultural ground shift is largely the result of the huge amounts of money that have been made in the computer revolution. They also say that, with computers now present in more than half of all US homes, America appears to have found itself in a love-hate relationship with geeks and the technology they invented. While Gates is resented by many for his alleged monopolistic practices, he is also admired for having built up the world's biggest fortune and played such a leading role in the popularisation of the computer. Other hi-tech tycoons have also become objects of such wonder, emulation and envy in American culture that academics identify them as a genuinely new cultural icon. "The hi-tech entrepreneur is the new cowboy," says Todd Gitlin, professor of culture, journalism and sociology at of New York University. "He's a loner, admired as someone who makes something happen. These folks are conceptualised as lone rangers. They're pioneers." But these moguls should be aware that such exalted status may prove to be fragile and temporary. Should, as most experts predict, the technology-hyped stock market crash, or technology appear to run out of control, these modern-day moguls could experience a public backlash even more ferocious than the one the transformed the financiers of Wall Street in the 1980s from masters of the universe to blood-sucking corporate leeches. "They will be recast from hi-tech heroes to the villains behind the greatest ills of society," says psychologist Tony Hoffman. "All society's traditional distrust of science will come pouring back." They will find plenty of ammo in Pirates. The movie is already creating a buzz with its breathless exhortation to "see how two 20-year-old kids stole a multibillion-dollar industry from America's corporate giants". It proceeds to tell how the young Gates battled his great rival Steve Jobs of Apple to shape and dominate the future of computers. Gates is portrayed more like a Sicilian gangster than an entrepreneur. He even utters a classic Mafia credo: "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." As a 12-year-old Gates tells his psychologist that his idol is Napoleon. A few
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Execution of two Indian men in Nebraska
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Zombie Cow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe the EU, Russia and China should come and bomb the shit out of the US to change Bill Clinton's mind to do something about it? On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Amelia Edgeman wrote: We certainly need to stop things like this in our own country before we take on the "sins" of others. This is a terrible situation. Where are the civil rights people for the American Native? Aren't these the dreaded "hate crimes" as much as any? Clinton's more easily bribed than bombed. All US politicos respond favorably to large doses of cash; it's their life's-blood. If some Indian casino-owners or other interested parties make sufficiently large 'contributions', DoJ will dive right in. Just watch. We have the best gov't money can buy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [19] Jack Parsons The Curious Origins of the American Space Program
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times /A- Laissez Faire City Times July 5, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 27 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Jack Parsons The Curious Origins of the American Space Program by The Magician Part 19: Axe Me No Questions I dozed off for a while. When I awoke, I could see bright sunlight at the top of the tunnel. I looked around but there was no Trisha, no copper door. I wasnt surprised. Still, I checked the wall carefully and clawed away some of the dirt. Nope. No copper door here. Just daylight and sanity. I looked at the tunnel with some suspicion. I had crawled down the tunnel, with gravity trying to pull me back up. So, logically, I would have to work my way up the tunnel, being careful that gravity didnt accelerate me along and spit me out to the external world. I tossed a rock part way up the tunnel. It came rolling back down toward me. I stuck my torso partly into the tunnel. No suction. Gravity was pulling me down. So, it was a weird tunnel. No matter from which direction you entered it, it pushed you back. Get out of me! it seemed to be saying. I worked my way through it, and stood up outside in the warm sunlight. It was mid-afternoon. Down below, my car stood on a dirt road that ended at the cliff. For off in the distance I could see a highway with two-way traffic. I sighed, looked for the baseball bat, and took it down with me. I got in the car and tossed the bat against the other door in the front seat. The gas gauge told me I had 1/8 of tank left. I started the car and headed back to the highway. There I turned back in the direction of Los Angeles. At least that part was easy. Los Angeles was always to the west, as long as you werent at the beach. I turned on the radio and found a station. They were playing a song by Shocking Blue. I laughed out loud. Venus. Then came the news. "And now the news from KJIZ, brought to you by Dusty Trail Carburetors, the carburetor of the future. "There has been a bizarre new development in the Oral Jerry Swagger case. Early today the body of one of the television evangelists employees was found on the front lawn of Swaggers Pasadena mansion. According to police sources, the mans throat had been cut and he had been disemboweled with a butcher knife. "A church spokesman, attorney Randy Stader, suggested that Satanists were responsible for the killing." (The voice of Randy Stader.) "We regret immensely the tragic death of Mr. Craig Knowles, and extend our condolences to his friends and associates at this time of sorrow. Mr. Knowles was recently engaged in an important investigation concerning what appear to be a coterie of Satanists linked to the U.S. military, who were believed to be responsible for a wave of cattle and even human mutilations throughout the western part of the U.S. We can only speculate that members of this group took revenge on Mr. Knowles for getting too close to the truth." (The voice of the newsreader again.) "However, confidential police sources tell KJIZ that the Pasadena police are pursuing the possibility that Craig Knowles death was the result of a love triangle. These sources speculate that at the time of his death, Mr. Knowles was having a homosexual affair with the older Mr. Swagger, and that he may have been killed by a jealous lover. KJIZ has been shown photographs of what appear to be Mr. Swagger as a young man, engaged in sex with another unidentified man. These sources imply that Mr. Swagger has been a practicing homosexual for much of his life, and that the death of Mr. Knowles has to be considered in that light. While these sources say Mr. Swagger is not a suspect in the case, a note found in the shirt pocket of the deceased reads: "I cant live without your love." "In other news, Israeli police reported today that they have arrested a group of orthodox extremists who have been planning to blow up the Temple Mount. According to Israeli authorities, the group had hoped the incident would precipitate an apocalyptic war between Jews and Arabs, and hasten the coming of the Messiah . . ." I turned off the radio and drove in silence for a while. Much as I tried to suppress it, the news report on Oral Jerry Swagger was bothering me a lot. Finally, I could stand it no longer and stopped the car beside the road and opened the trunk. Killed by a butcher knife. I checked each compartment of the travel bag for the chefs knife. I couldnt find it anywhere. I had wrapped it in protective covering and put it in with the rest of my things back at the Hilton. Hadnt I? Well, it wasnt there now. I checked the passing traffic, and waited for an appropriate gap. Then I slipped the axe out of the trunk and tossed it out to the side of the road. I got back in the car and drove on. I entertained myself with some consoling
[CTRL] Viet Nam - Part 1: The Wall
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times /A- Laissez Faire City Times July 5, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 27 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Viet Nam Part 1: The Wall by Robert L. Kocher In Washington, D. C., stands a long black wall with over fifty-eight thousand names of dead American military personnel engraved upon it. The total is not completed. New names are added periodically, reflecting new information. That wall is a memorial to those who died in the Viet Nam war. The wall is appropriately colored. The period of the war, which really lasted from 1960 to 1969, after which the political condition in America made the situation unsalvageable and an expression of self destruction instead of a war, was one of the darkest periods in American history. The period was marked by deep division in America. Segments of the American population openly supported what was supposed to be the enemy. Actress Jane Fonda was displayed on TV happily perched on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. Mobs of American demonstrators took to the streets waving North Viet Nam flags and chanting Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh in support of the communist north. There were "teach-ins" by university professors supporting North Viet Nam and other left-wing causes unc onditionally while endorsing all methods of impeding or sabotaging any resistance to communist expansion. Concurrently, the content in TV and other areas of the media seemed to have become a public relations machine supporting the entire spectrum of what newscasters euphemistically labeled the anti-war movement and social or political activism. The interpretations and language employed on TV news were the same as the demonstrators used to describe themselves. The premises assumed by the movement went unquestioned on TV and were stated as news fact. During that period there developed a new type of deep mistrust of the American government which still exists today. There was serious question as to how far the support for North Viet Nam and the extreme leftseen in large demonstrations, in classrooms, and in the mediaextended into the structure of government, and how that support influenced, or sabotaged, the conduct of the war, with the American military betrayed and in the middle. In the Korean war the American armed forces were asked to engage in military tactics which made little sense to the troops. They were asked to push the enemy back to the 38th parallel, then stop to be attacked again. There was speculation that perhaps there were possible indigenous leftward political elements back home that betrayed America. Such speculation was dismissed as being too far-fetched. In a few years any such consideration would be smeared and ridiculed as McCarthyism. But, General Douglas MacArthur argued that his military plans in Korea were being given to the communists before they were to be executed. In fact, copies of his plans were given to the British government in London. It was later found that there was a high level communist spy ring operating in the British government. MacArthur may have been correct in his accusation. Socialism or Incompetence? In Viet Nam, the far-fetched was still far-fetched, but was becoming the most reasonable conclusion. The unthinkable was still the unthinkable. To come to what otherwise would be a reasonable consideration, if not conclusion, would place someone in the category with right-wing caricatures, and be accused of bizarre thinking patterns. But something was clearly wrong. There were too many things that didn't make sense. Evidence seemed to support the contention that a political movement which might have been developing underground for decades in this country, and which was in sympathy with the system we were conducting military operations against, was now positioned and surfacing to make itself more strongly felt and make its long-planned move. It was clear that increasing segments of the society felt secure in openly supporting the enemy in ways that would have been unthinkable and not tolerated in Korea or World War II. For some within this society the view could arguably have changed from "My country, right or wrong" to a frame of reference of "Socialism/communism, right or wrong." The war was being undermined and fought in debating salons, university classrooms, and political infiltration, while servicemen were being sacrificed to mark time and preserve appearances during this move. Is it possible that members of the military were put in a position of deliberate loss and sabotage for purposes of engineering collapse of opposition to communist advances while the argument was being concocted the resistance was attempted but was impossible? Or was the Viet Nam defeat a byproduct of simple absolute incompetence? The statistics show as participants in the war:
[CTRL] On the Road in Tibet
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times /A- Laissez Faire City Times July 5, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 27 Editor Chief: Emile Zola On the Road in Tibet by Richard S. Ehrlich (On his third visit during the past 15 years, Richard S. Ehrlich recently spent one month in Tibet, including three weeks in Lhasa and a week in Gyantse and Xigatse. The following is his second report from the trip.--Zola) ON THE FRIENDSHIP HIGHWAY, China -- The filth-encrusted Tibetan mother repeatedly slaps her baby's forehead, trying to smash a fly. Failing to squash the bug, the mother pinches her wrinkled breast and shoves it into the baby's mouth, as they speed along on a public bus through central Tibet. The Chinese-built, double-lane, paved Friendship Highway takes them across dramatic flatlands two miles high, wedged between gigantic, upthrusted mountains of geological trauma, along the turbulent Brahmaputra River. The mother checks her infant's blackened T-shirt for lice, and scratches away tiny, hardened clusters of dirt from his nose, until a nostril bleeds. Most of the bus passengers are also idling away the eight hours or so it takes to travel from Tibet's second-biggest city, Xigatse (Shigatse), to the capital, Lhasa. Passengers' conversations are split according to race: the handful of Chinese men and women speak Mandarin Chinese among themselves or when they talk to a Tibetan, such as to the bus driver, because most of China's migrants to this "roof of the world" speak no Tibetan. Tibetans, who overwhelmingly pack the bus, merrily chat in Tibetan language. Occasionally, they burst into soft devotional singing vaguely reminiscent of American-Indian Navajo chants. When the bus crosses a bridge over the river, near the journey's mid-point, they gasp the famous Buddhist prayer, "Om mani padme hum." Some Tibetans fling pieces of colored, square tissue paper adorned with woodblock-printed prayers out of the bus windows, so the wind can spiral their pleas down the steep stone gorge and into the river, and beyond. Prayers and Popcorn Those passengers were the ones who bought inch-thick stacks of the colored tissue paper -- in large squares or small, depending on budget -- from a Tibetan woman covered in sweaters who sold the prayers that morning along with popcorn, soft drinks and other treats for the long bus journey. Traffic, meanwhile, is light on The Friendship Highway. A rumbling convoy of about a dozen, Chinese Peoples' Liberation Army vehicles pass in the opposite direction every once in a while, mostly big dull-green trucks covered with tarpaulin, and followed by a couple of fuel tankers. The highway's pit stops include small, rectangular, military garrisons where uniformed Chinese troops do calisthenics in front of bleak buildings topped by a satellite dish and China's red flag. At the start of the bus journey, hotels in Xigatse bore posters in English warning "independent" foreign travellers not to travel by public bus, otherwise they would suffer a huge fine and expulsion from Tibet --and cause severe punishment to bus drivers who disobeyed the ban. As a result, many foreigners apply for a "permit" to cruise Tibet in an official "group," inside expensive, hired Landrovers driven by Tibetans from travel agencies. Some foreigners do try their luck on public busses, hitch rides on trucks, or bravely set out on bicycles or on foot. The bus charges about five US dollars for the 250-kilometer, 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. ride northeast from Xigatse to Lhasa. The driver of this bus, worried when he saw a taboo foreigner climb aboard in Xigatse, blurted, "No, no! Police." When his warning was ignored, however, he simply shifted into gear. His apparent lack of real worry was similar to the security forces who never closely scrutinized the bus or its passengers during the trip. Confident Control Chinese security forces, who allegedly killed one million Tibetans during the past 40 years, instead appear extremely confident about their control over Tibet, reflecting their ever-stregthening position since crushing a bloody 1959 anti-Chinese uprising. Today the only visible weapons displayed in Xigatse and Lhasa are a scattering of Chinese-made AK-47 assault rifles -- some fitted with a bayonet blade -- which are held by young, green-uniformed soldiers who guard military bases, bridges, banks and other key installations. On a bridge near Lhasa, some Chinese troops appear bored by the lack of threat, so they giggle and goosestep in bright sunshine while crossing the road, for their own amusement. The only potential violence on the bus erupts when one loud, uniformed Chinese soldier threatens to kick his camouflaged tennis shoe into the face of the Tibetan bus conductor, apparently because of a missed stop. Many Tibetans in the cities
[CTRL] Systems Thinking Legislative Failures
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times /A- Laissez Faire City Times July 5, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 27 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Systems Thinking Legislative Failures by James Wright "Functional organization. How does one design an electric motor? Would you attach a bathtub to it, simply because one is available? Would a bouquet of flowers help? A heap of rocks? No, you would use just those elements necessary to its purpose and make it no larger than neededand you would incorporate safety factors. Function controls design." Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress The first principle is to reject the impulse to legislate everything. A new law is not needed just because an event captures the attention of the national media. Recent events involving guns do not justify stricter handgun controls; they dont even justify greater efforts to enforce existing laws. They do justify a query; why did the existing laws fail, and if they did fail, why are they on the books? I heard varying numbers in Congressional debate, the most common being eighteen separate laws that the school-age shooters in Colorado managed to circumvent. Congress is quite capable of writing any number of laws, and expanding the bureaucracies that try to implement and enforce them exponentially; if this has not functioned in the past, why repeat the same wasteful efforts? One definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results. Another point is that there were eighteen laws already passed that penalized this behavior. Why were there so many to begin with? Here is another problem presenting itself for solution; there is no force or constraint that minimizes legislation to a necessary minimum. We need to create or introduce a force that trims away and whittles down legislation to the least amount possible, and keeps trying to reduce it further. The quote from Heinlein above was actually used to describe the structure of a revolutionary organization, but it can apply to legislation as well. The logic applies to nearly any design: the lean, clean efficiency of a cheetah, a bridge or a haiku. Evolutionary pressures grind and reduce the lines of a cheetah to minimal but certain lethality; a bridge is mathematics and stress analysis carried to a logical choice. Even a haiku is the result of centuries of Japanese aesthetics, critically and continually pruned and polished to perfection. Why should legislation be any different? It could be, if we choose to subject it to the same criteria. The first and obvious rule is that legislation should be no broader or longer than necessary. This rule is flunked by many bills that are proposed today, and certainly those generally called "Omnibus" bills. Omnibus health care reform was a socialist nightmare, omnibus spending bills are pork barrels on steroids, and the omnibus crime bills are intrusions on personal freedom beyond Orwells darkest dreams. No legislation should be written which addresses more than one concern, and the overall goal should be to write as few laws as possible. Another good suggestion comes from L. Neil Smiths "Lever Action Essay" at http://webleyweb.com/lneil/antmen.html . Islamic children are generally required to memorize the Koran; certainly the Ten Commandments and the Noble Eightfold Path are short, thorough and clear enough to allow understanding. As a nation, our goal should be to have national legislation that mimics the clarity and brevity of these codes. Complex Systems Complex systems that work invariably arise from simple systems that work. Automobiles are collections of wheels, axles, pistons, cylinders, spark plugs and so on. Henry Ford was not required to invent all of these systems; he was able to mass-produce them successfully. On the other hand, have you ever read the entire Internal Revenue System Code? Of course not, neither have I; it runs to thousands of pages. Likewise, the Environmental Protection Act, the Social Security Act, the laws that cover Equal Opportunity, the S.E.C., the Federal Reserve, and so forth are behemoths. None of these sprang from simple systems that were tried and perfected over generations; all were the "total inspirations" of a single or small group of legislators, and all are woefully overblown and impossible for ordinary citizens to understand. They have created immense bureaucracies, cumbersome regulations and draconian penalties for non-compliance. If our country is ever to have a hope of being "the land of the free and the home of the brave" again, we have to dismantle these archaic heaps of legalese and start over. To assist this, all laws should have an automatic "sunset" provision, similar to that which will kill the Special Prosecutor law soon; not because the Special Prosecutors didnt work
[CTRL] What's Wrong with Proportional Representation
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times /A- Laissez Faire City Times July 5, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 27 Editor Chief: Emile Zola What's Wrong with Proportional Representation by Lauren Bain Every now and then the republic receives a challenge from the la-la land of the Voices. The Voices express their right to be heard, and even the right to win elections. Invariably, they are attributed to minorities. There are Women (who comprise more than 50 percent of the population, and a higher percentage of the voting population); Blacks (who, despite all indoctrination efforts, confound Liberal orthodoxy by refusing to vote as a block); Hispanics (many of whom are conservative voters, a fact incredulous Liberals find especially cloying), and sundry folks who just don't subscribe to a dominant party line. Proportional Representation (PR) awards minority parties seats based on the proportion they receive of the popular vote. The system actually is a vote redistribution scheme that gives Voices a chance. Voters would have lots of choices, proponents gush, because lots more parties would get their people elected. Lots more candidates and discouraged voters would be represented, no votes would be wasted, and best of all, as Catch 22's Milo Minderbinder always said, "everybody has a share." PR redefines everything in politics, including the meaning of "popular." One problem with understanding the pitfalls of PR is the number of PR models out there. No three proponents ever seem to be discussing the same thing. One will concede that the system is impracticable on a Senatorial or Presidential level; another will claim that PR would have changed the 1992 Presidential election. But PR's supporters (Lani Guinier, for instance) agree that under our current system, there are wasted votes, that a PR system is more fair because it would enable more minorities to gain political office, that PR is more representative than the single-member districts we have, and that somehow, productive coalitions will result from its implementation. "Fair" and Other Fallacies PR backers who are not avowed Liberals borrow heavily from the Liberal lexicon, using epithets like "misguided," and "unfair" when referring to their opponents. Unfortunately, some Libertarians support PR, presumably because they see the system as their only shot at getting their people into office. They overlook the fact the PR is basically a subsidy system for non-competitive parties, whereas the present system represents a political marketplace: a free market of parties from which a voter may freely choose. It stings when your party loses a lot of the time, but that's capitalism--make your product better if you want to sell more of it. And PR sports other fallacies. Is there such a thing as wasted votes? No. All votes in this country are recorded and become part of history. When a plurality victor enters the state Legislature with 48 percent of the vote, having toppled a leading contender who got 46 percent and an also-ran who received 6 percent, that new representative is very conscious that he is not the beloved of the majority. He will do everything he possibly can to make everyone very happy, because he needs to appease a lot of voters in his re-election campaign. He will be a coalition builder, and he will be responsive to his local constituents, because he is acutely aware that he lacks a mandate. That is the up- side of a majority-driven republic. This is not to say that everyone gets his way; but, simply that no votes are actually wasted. Is PR a more fair system because it would enable more minorities or minority parties to gain political office? No. Third-party candidate Jesse Ventura astonished Minnesota, the nation, and non-major partisans generally when Minnesota voters elected him governor. Minnesota does not have proportional representation; Ventura was elected by a direct vote. Life in a republic means there are winners and losers. PR smacks of "leveling the playing field." Elections are competitive events; parties compete for governance in the marketplace of ideas. If you're losing, then redesign, repackage, and make yourself saleable. Those who have earned the right to govern American citizens are not obliged to be apologists for the principle of majority rule. If those elected officia ls abuse the trust of that majority, then they fully deserve the voters' rigorous contempt the next time around. Give Us Your Tired, Your Braindead. . . If the majority is braindead, proportional representation will not salvage the republic. Idiocy will simply be distributed among more party lines. Is PR more representative than the single-member districts we have? No. Our taxation districts are local, and our representative districts should be local. Most PR models contemplate
[CTRL] [4] Chaos and Fractals in Financial Markets
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.27/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times /A- Laissez Faire City Times July 5, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 27 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Chaos and Fractals in Financial Markets Part 4 by J. Orlin Grabbe Gamblers, Zero Sets, and Fractal Mountains Henry and Thomas are flipping a fair coin and betting $1 on the outcome. If the coin comes up heads, Henry wins a dollar from Thomas. If the coin comes up tails, Thomas wins a dollar from Henry. Henrys net winnings in dollars, then, are the total number of heads minus the total number of tails. But we saw all this before, in Part 3. If we let x(n) denote Henrys net winnings, then x(n) is determined by the dynamical system: x(n) = x(n) + 1, with probability p = x(n) = x(n) 1, with probability q = . The graph of 10,000 coin tosses in Part 3 simply shows the fluctuations in Henrys wealth (starting from 0) over the course of the 10,000 coin tosses. Lets do this in real time, although we will restrict ourselves to 3200 coin tosses. Lets plot Henrys winnings for a new game that lasts for 3200 flips of the coin. You can quickly see the results of many games with a few clicks of your mouse. Make sure Java is enabled on your web browser, and click here. There are three things to note about this demonstration: 1.Even though the odds are even for each coin clip, winnings or losses can at times add up significantly. Even though a head or a tail is equally probable for each coin flip, there can be a series of "runs" that result in a large loss to either Henry or Thomas. This fact is important in understanding the "gamblers ruin" problem discussed later. 2.The set of points where x(n) comes back to x(n) = 0 (that is, the points where wins and losses are equalized), is called the zero set of the system. Using n as our measure of time, the time intervals between each point of the zero set are independent, but form clusters, much like Cantor dust. To see the zero set plotted for the coin tossing game, make sure Java is enabled on your web browser and click here. The zero set represents those times at which Henry has broken even. (Make sure to run the series of coin flips multiple times, to observe various patterns of the zero set.) 3.The fluctuations in Henrys winnings form an outline that is suggestive of mountains and valleys. In fact, this is a type of "Brownian landscapes" that we see around us all the time. To create different "alien" landscapes, for, say, set decorations in a science fiction movie, we can change the probabilities. The effects in three dimensions, with a little color shading, can be stunning. Since we will later be discussing motions that are not Brownian, and distributions that are not normal (not Gaussian), it is important to first point out an aspect of all this that is somewhat independent of the probability distribution. Its called the Gamblers Ruin Problem. You dont need nonnormal distributions to encounter gambler's ruin. Normal ones will do just fine. Futures Trading and the Gamblers Ruin Problem This section explains how casinos make most of their money, as well as why the traders at Goldman Sachs make more money speculating than you do. Its not necessarily because they are smarter than you. Its because they have more money. (However, we will show how the well-heeled can easily lose this advantage.) Many people assume that the futures price of a stock index, bond, foreign currency, or commodity like gold represents a fair bet. That is, they assume that the probability of an upward movement in the futures price is equal to the probability of a downward movement, and hence the mathematical expectation of a gain or loss is zero. They use the analogy of flipping a fair coin. If you bet $1 on the outcome of the flip, the probability of your winning $1 is one-half, while the probability of losing $1 is also one-half. Your expected gain or loss is zero. For the same reason, they conclude, futures gains and futures losses will tend to offset each other in the long run. There is a hidden fallacy in such reasoning. Taking open positions in futures contracts is not analogous to a single flip of a coin. Rather, the correct analogy is that of a repeated series of coin flips with a stochastic termination point. Why? Because of limited capital. Suppose you are flipping a coin with a friend and betting $1 on the outcome of each flip. At some point either you or your friend will have a run of bad luck and will lose several dollars in succession. If one player has run out of money, the game will come to an end. The same is true in the futures market. If you have a string of losses on a futures position, you will have to post more margin. If at some point you cannot post the required margin, you will have to close out the contract. You are forced
[CTRL] Second Amendment LawÊLibrary
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.2ndlawlib.org/ A HREF="http://www.2ndlawlib.org/"Second Amendment Law Library/A - Second Amendment Law Library Legal scholarship on the Second Amendment Last updated: July 3, 1999 Law Reviews Featuring recent Law Journal articles on the Second Amendment. Includes the entire "1982 Senate Report". A suggested introductory reading list is available for those new to the topic. The latest arrival is: An 1874 Law Journal article: Dillon Thompson, eds., The Right to Keep and Bear Arms for Private and Public Defence. Related Articles Informative opinions published in other forums by the authors. The latest arrival is: Akhil Amar, Second Thoughts: What the right to bear arms really means. Other Materials Interesting materials on the Second Amendment and other topics. The latest arrivals are: Stephen Miller, Johnny Get Your Gun? Walter Olson, Firing Squad: In the gun litigation wars, who really speaks for federalism? Jonathan Rauch, And Don't Forget Your Gun Court Decisions State, federal and Supreme Court decisions on the right to arms. Miscellaneous Search this site, links to interesting resources, about Second Law Libary, icons for use when linking. Awards this site has received. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [2] The Marcos Dynasty
-Caveat Lector- An excerpt from: The Marcos Dynasty Sterling Seagrave©1988 Harper Row, Inc ISBN 0-06-015815-8 out-of-print Five UNNATURAL ACTS AT THE END of the Pacific War, life in the Philippines did not return to normal but took on a surreal, nightmarish quality as America refused to leave. Throughout the Far East, Washington was attempting to install right-wing governments as a first line of defense against communism, and its success depended heavily on two dubious allies, Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek's notoriously corrupt KMT and the Japanese underworld. Because of the nature of things in Asia, conservative political movements derived their power from the muscle of the underworld, which could be paid to knock heads and counted on to resist reform of any variety. In Korea and China, as well as in Japan and the Philippines, MacArthur's G-2, General Willoughby, was purging radicals with the single-mindedness of Torquemada and the help of the underworld. In Washington, Senator McCarthy and the China Lobby were coming into full cry. Although one day McCarthy and the China Lobby would be discredited, by then MacArthur, Willoughby, and the CIA had midwifed a string of bone-crushing regimes calling themselves the Iron Triangle. One leg of this tripod was the Chiang regime, transposed to Taiwan and protected by the U.S. Seventh Fleet. Generalissimo Chiang was anxious to influence the politics of wealthy overseas Chinese and maintained an undercover army of political agents throughout the Far East. This provided an ideal funnel for the CIA's anti-Communist funds and a ready-made vehicle for U.S. covert operations. The Philippines became a staging area for intervention in the affairs of Indonesia, Indochina, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaya, and Burma. America's huge air and naval bases in the Philippines provided jumping-off points. Controlling politics in the archipelago became more important after America allowed the Philippines to become independent in 1946. For its part, the KMT became more obsessed than ever with destroying leftist and liberal elements in the Philippines and with dominating its Chinese community. A secret war got underway in which ordinary Filipinos became the enemy. On the very eve of independence, Washington began to intervene once again in favor of those members of the oligarchy prepared to engage in unnatural acts. The rule of law was to be honored in the breach, appearance was to count instead of reality, and the whole charade was to be mimed with a bogus air of piety. The scene was set for a new generation of corruption and malfeasance on a monumental scale, a large standing army would be engaged full time only in protecting vested interests, all democratic protest in the islands would be labeled subversive or Communist-inspired, and opportunities for bribery to achieve short range goals would prove irresistible even for the White House. Again it was Douglas MacArthur who set the standard. As the U.S. Army advanced into the mountains around Baguio in April 1945, remaining members of the Laurel government began to slip away from the Japanese. Manuel Roxas, three other cabinet ministers, and the chief justice reached American lines. MacArthur sent a plane for Roxas, but had the other men detained, and ordered the Free Philippines, a newspaper of the Office of War Information, to run a trumpedup story: "ROXAS IS AMONG LIBERATED, 4 CABINET AIDES CAUGHT." MacArthur thus set his protege Roxas apart, distorting postwar politics in the islands and turning ethics on their head. Manuel Roxas was freed, restored to his rank of general, and given MacArthur's special pardon. The rest of the wartime puppets, most of them MacArthur's personal adversaries, or rivals of MacArthur's business associates in Manila, were interned. "MacArthur could be wildly inconsistent when the oppressors were friends of his," conceded biographer William Manchester. Locked away in the files of U.S. Attorney General Tom Clark was a secret report identifying Roxas as one of the leading Filipino collaborators; this document (still classified decades later) contained hard evidence that members of the senate, cabinet, and Roxas himself had helped the Japanese wipe out Filipino and American guerrillas, seize food from poor farmers to feed Japanese troops, and draft the Laurel government's declaration of war against the United States. Despite this evidence, at MacArthur's urging President Truman abandoned Roosevelt's policy that there must be an American-enforced purge of collaborators. Truman's decision was influenced by America's growing obsession with communism, a fear being fanned energetically by the Republican party in its effort to recapture the White House from the Democrats. In Manila the excitement of independence gave way to the jingoism of the McCarthy era. General MacArthur and High Commissioner Paul McNutt, nicknamed the "Hoosier Hitler" by his Filipino opponents, urged vigorous support for the
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] WORLD ORDER MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED BILDERBERGER MEETING]
-Caveat Lector- Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- There's far too many there to be a credible global steering group. Those choices sound too thoughtful - professors of peace, global love plc doctors of political correctness, reasonable politicians - where are all the mad raving loonies that are really running this planet :) Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh Scotland Careful, Andrew--you're coming close to the truth...which is that there are *multiple* "global steering groups" competing to set the agenda for the new millennium. There is no such thing as "The Conspiracy"--instead there are many different conspiracies, which sometimes fight each other and sometimes enter into temporary alliances. Orwell hinted at this in *1984*, with the Inner Party and the Outer Party, and especially with the fluctuating alliances...is Oceania at war with Eurasia, or is it at war with Eastasia? Everything is fluid, everything is changeable...O'Brien: "he who controls the present controls the past; he who controls the past controls the future." Newthink is doubleplus good; oldthink is doubleplus ungood; oldthink is unthink...translation: it never existed in the first place, the thought was never thought...and *you* are the Party's best mind-control agent, because you control your own mind on the Party's behalf. Long live Big Brother. The clocks are striking thirteen. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Brouhaha; re:[CTRL] [1] Hitler's Priestess-Savitri_Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth,
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/99 2:42:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kris, you are a master propagandist, as are most jews. John Lee Shazam, Johnny Lee, your powers of perception seem to be as strong as your research. As, a wrote to some NY editors.- "Prejudice is not research." 1. I am not Jewish. I am a blond, blue-eyed Irish, Scottish, English, Dutch and few other besides. 2. Gee, thanks for the compliment, I have been studying propagnda for many years and it is amazing how it works; the big lie, the truth must be presented(hopefully in a discredited manner), Function and form are constant, the lyrics are recycledwhat a bore! 3. All I did was present some material from a recent book, so readers may review and I highly recommend that readers pursue the total book either at a library or by purchase. 4. Mr. Goodrich-Clarke's books are highly spoke of and tend not to be impeached out-of-hand because of exhaustive and verifiable research; and his tendency to be on firm ground for his findings rather than whims , prejudice or fancy. 5. Excusa, for being gone to a wedding; staying at a motel with no phones. Had computer but bo on-ramp. Was a nice time. Mr. Lee had already signed-off by the time I logged-on late last night, so hopefully we nwon't need to go over much of this same ground. 6. THANK-YOU moderators for steppin-up and taking care of the situation. I was planning on being able to check-in and didn't really let the other moderators know I was leaving. Thanks again. 7. And since they were so well received I have two other posts in that series that aren't in the archive, I shall post. Also it is amazing of the amount of information already out there on the conspiracy. Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country. Om K - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1]
-Caveat Lector- Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- # Do aliens exist? An Islamic perspective. (DAWN) In spite of all the res- earch, first hand experiences and beliefs about the existence of extra- terrestrial, there is one aspect that confounds me. Why is it that the people in the subcontinent mostly encounter jinns, the presence of which is verified in the Holy Quran, and those living in the West mostly enc- ounter aliens and their ships? http://dawn.com/weekly/review/review6.htm but western women have been finding djinn a tonic for years - always a good 'pick me up' ... Andrew I think we had better scotch this one before it goes any further... ;^) Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Flame Wars, etc [was something else]
-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/5/99 10:11:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What IS forbidden is conduct that leads to flame-wars. Participants here will NOT stoop to the level of throwing epithets at each other, labeling each other. Every participant here is an honest, educated, moral person, no matter what they may write. #8-) Attack the ideas, the expression, NOT the person. That's the rule. If the voices in your head tell you to attack or label a CTRL participant, do so in private email or on Usenet, not here. Ric Carter, co-moderator Excellent response. As a list Moderator myself and a long time member, I have seen this sort of thing come and go. It is stupid and illustrative of the lack of sufficient erudition to make a thoughtful rebuttal to points you disagree with, when you resort to name calling and making blanket statements about ethnic or cultural groups. Teo1000 And we have certainly seen enough flame wars in the last two years. I still have scars from tangling with Bill Cooper, for example...and no one who experienced it will ever forget the great Christian Identity flap. Generally we manage to keep the discussion more or less on an even keel, and the regular posters are relatively sane [ouch! damn aluminum-foil helmet keeps poking me in the ear! STOP THAT!!!]. When we get outright racists and Nazi wannabes who are pursuing a deliberate agenda, it's pretty clear that they have come on the list with the objective of taking it over. That is the precise reason for the "Declaration and Disclaimer"...and for the "Caveat Lector" at the beginning of every post. CTRL as an online community can continue to exist only to the extent that we all observe mutual restraint and forebearance. Sure, a lot of the posts that show up here are going to be edgy. By definition, CTRL is on the fringe both intellectually and politically. It's one of the very few places around where you can say controversial and unpopular things without being flamed or sued or both. The prohibition on anti-Semitism, Nazism, and related ideologies exists because we have seen firsthand that the purveyors of those beliefs are not interested in dialogue. They are interested only in propagandizing and self-promotion. And *that* is the precise antithesis of what CTRL is about. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Re:______[CTRL]_[1]_Hitler's_Priestess__Savitri_Devi,...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/5/99 6:18:25 PM, you wrote: I am a little late on this one but this is something that I don't want to see here on this list. Mr. Lee's comments smack of anti-Semitism and have no place here. Critiquing Kris's choice of books for their informational value would always be welcome but resorting to comparing him to a Jew which you proceed to demean by declaring that they are masters of propaganda. The implication is obvious. Let US NOT resort to personal attack or attacking a single group for blanket response. SOME Jews are masters of propaganda, just as some Arabs are, as well as Christians, Moslems, Chinese, etc. Blanket statements and personal attacks will get you nowhere. If you don't like the source then attack it's scholarly foundations, not the messenger. Kris has done a good job (IMO) of providing a vast amount of data from varied sources, to satisfy just about every avenue of research in the field of conspiracy. I don't agree with 100% of what he says but I would never resort to attacking him personally for holding his views, and especially NOT for posting excerpts from others' works. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis July 6, 1999
__ VISIT OUR NEW INTELLIGENCE CENTERS http://www.stratfor.com/ __ OTHER FEATURES ON STRATFOR.COM Russia Turns Up Pressure on Chechnya http://www.stratfor.com/CIS/commentary/c9907052015.htm Greece Assures U.S. - No Military Accord with Iran http://www.stratfor.com/world/Commentaries/w9907031927.htm Sharif Still Searching for Support as Extremists Turn Against Him http://www.stratfor.com/asia/commentary/c9907052005.htm Russian Aircraft, Romania and Bulgaria, and the Balance of Power http://www.stratfor.com/world/specialreports/special3.htm __ STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update Weekly Analysis July 6, 1999 Rising Oil Prices: Less There than Meets the Eye Summary: Oil prices have gone up 80 percent in a couple of months. Twenty years ago, the world would have been riveted. Today, the world's equity and money markets remain indifferent and even soar in tandem. The doubling of the price of oil does not mean what it once did. Is the calm justified? To get at that question, we have to figure out why prices rose in the first place. We do not think that production cuts were the sole cause of the rise. Expectations of Asia's economic recovery and a growing feeling that Central Asia's oil may not make it to market were critical in driving prices up. Since we do not think that Asia's recovery will be all that dramatic and since Central Asian oil is a long-term issue, we do not think that prices will continue to surge, particularly since other mineral commodity prices have not kept pace with oil. Analysis: The world has seen a dramatic increase in the price of oil during the last few months. From a low point in February of under $10 a barrel, the price of North Sea Brent has risen to just over $18 a barrel at the close of trading in London. This is the highest price for oil since December 1997. That means that oil prices have risen by about 80 percent in about four months, with most of the gains in the last two months. This ought to be important and even startling news, yet it seems that both the media and the markets have taken the news in stride. American markets, which a generation ago lived in dread of high oil prices, hit new highs along with oil, rather than moving in the other direction. In many ways, that news is more interesting than the rising oil prices. The collapse of oil prices, along with other commodity prices in the early 1980s was, in our view, the trigger behind the boom of the 1980s and the long-term surge in U.S. stock prices. We say "trigger" rather than "cause" because there were several important causes, ranging from demographics to the business cycle. Nevertheless, the decline in the cost of commodities decreased the cost of production and the cost of living in the industrialized countries, facilitating capital formation while easing pressure caused by consumer demand. The decline in commodity prices also exacted a toll, ushering in an intense third-world debt crisis. Low commodity prices, of which oil prices are the most important, propelled the American economy upward while cushioning the decline in Asia. These low prices also had the inevitable counter-action of severely harming commodity-exporting countries. From Venezuela to Saudi Arabia to Indonesia, the effect of low oil prices on national economies was becoming catastrophic by the beginning of 1999. Suddenly, oil prices have nearly doubled. It is important to try to understand the causes leading up to this extraordinary event, in order to gage first its permanence, and second its consequences. The fact that the global economy has not yet reacted to rising oil prices can mean one of three things. First, the global markets may not be convinced that the rise is sustainable. Second, oil is not as important as it once was. Third, the markets have not fully absorbed the meaning of the shift. The reason matters a great deal. The obvious cause of the rise in oil prices has to do with agreements reached by oil producers earlier this year. As oil prices collapsed last year, OPEC members, particularly major producers Saudi Arabia and Venezuela which had long worked at cross-purposes to each other, began to collaborate in getting oil producers not only to promise to cut production, but actually to enforce the cuts. This was difficult for two reasons. First, some of the most important producers in 1999, unlike in 1973, were not members of OPEC. Second, and more important, most oil-producing countries, particularly those that were heavily dependent on oil revenues for a large measure of their income, could not absorb the costs of cutting production. Quite the contrary, each agreement to cut oil production led to market openings for oil producers. In spite of promises, economic pressures caused producers to sell secretly into the market openings. It was extremely difficult to create a cartel-like
[CTRL] The National Guard's new Y2K RAID team (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/19990706_xex_the_national.shtml The National Guard's new Y2K RAID team Plan for domestic terror units in all 50 states by January 1 By David M. Bresnahan © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com A new National Guard RAID unit is being organized and trained to respond to domestic terrorist threats, with a team in every state and territory in time for Y2K. Each team is made up of 22 full-time National Guard members and is prepared to deal with domestic threats from terrorist groups using weapons of mass destruction. As the new year approaches, the National Guard in most states has progressed from weekly to twice-weekly meetings to prepare plans for Y2K contingencies, according to a guard officer who attends the meetings. Each meeting takes place in secure areas, such as the Plans Operations and Training section of Guard facilities. The RAID teams meet and train on a daily basis. Details of the National Guard RAID teams were found in a recent report issued by Mark E. Gebicke, director of National Security and International Affairs. Articles in WorldNetDaily exposing secret National Guard Y2K plans forced many guard units, and the National Guard Bureau, to hold more secret meetings to decide how to handle the disclosure. In January, WorldNetDaily broke the story that the National Guard Bureau had secret plans to test a method for national mobilization without the use of telephones in the event of Y2K disaster. Another article detailed many of the concerns of guard officers and Y2K planners regarding expected Y2K contingencies and civil disturbances. One National Guard officer, who participates in the twice-weekly secret meetings, recently contacted WorldNetDaily to express his concerns over the seriousness of expected Y2K consequences. "There is no valid, logical reason to keep this information from the public, other than political. The current administration seems to believe the American people are not capable of dealing with the truth," explained the officer in a phone interview over the weekend. "We are talking about far more than just possible loss of power and phone service. We are planning for civil unrest, as well as attacks from foreign and domestic enemies," he described. The consequences of Y2K will present an ideal opportunity for enemies of the United States to take advantage and attack. There are so many different threats that the source said it is highly likely that at least one or more will actually carry out multiple attacks using Y2K as the ideal opportunity to strike. He was concerned that militia groups in all parts of the country are considered a threat. WorldNetDaily earlier this year exposed plans by the FBI to infiltrate militia groups and prepare to one day round up members. "Most of these people are good quality Americans who are genuinely concerned about our nation, but they are all being categorized (as a threat) because there are a small number among them who are the real problem. The really far-off extremists," he explained. "There's no reason to go after everyone just because of a few nuts." A National Guard Bureau contact who previously spoke with WorldNetDaily was reluctant to provide new information in a recent phone conversation. He did confirm the existence of the RAID teams and admitted that his Y2K committee now meets almost daily just outside Washington, D.C. In January he told WorldNetDaily that the guard was preparing for Y2K disruptions that were expected to last about two or
[CTRL] Fwd: Black Ops? Hmmm ......
Subj: Fwd: EVACUATIONS UNDERWAY Date: 7/1/99 8:38:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ivan Shapiro) THIRTY MILITARY FAMILIES SUDDENLY LEAVE THE U.S. Col. Jim Ammerman is the military chaplin that has been exposing what is going on in the military concerning the plans of the one world conspiracy. In a recent interview on short wave radio with Chris Gerner, Col. Ammerman reveals that some of his air force friends have sold their homes and their cars and have suddenly moved their families out of the 48 states. They could not reveal exactly out what they were told, but they did say that they saw orders or plans that something was going to happen in America, and when it did there could be a 50% death rate nationwide. They decided to leave the country and would not say where they were going. This riveting interview from a very Credible Christian Military man. Greetings fellow Christian Patriots; First of all, I can confirm the above. Inside sources have alleged that the Cheyenne Mountain base in Colorado [NORAD headquarters] is at DEFCON-3, and that several military families who formerly worked at this base are leaving the U.S. There are plans in the works to provoke a National Emergency in order to implement Socialist Martial Law, and this emergency will probably be a combination of economic collapse, social unrest-anarchy, and terrorist activities. First of all, this plan may look exactly like the Nazi plot to take over Europe during World War II. You may not believe me, but I can assure you that the EXACT SAME FORCES [namely those Luciferian-Satanic secret societies like the Thule Society which CREATED the Nazi Party] are the ones who are behind this present effort to create a 4th Reich in the U.S.A. The present effort was rooted in a secret alliance between Nazi General Reinhard Gehlen [Bavarian Thule Society] and Allen Dulles [Bavarian Illuminati], which resulted in the establishment of the Central Intelligence Agency in 1947 as an intelligence force for Nazi war criminals and former Nazi intelligence agents to escape into a new agency, in order to continue their Fuhrers dream [nightmare] of a "New World Order"that was the title of Hitlers second book after MEIN KAMPF, by the way. This secret has gotten more people killed than you will ever know. JFK was a victim of this fascist CIA plot which resulted in a coup detat in the EXECUTIVE-MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL branch of our government. Why do you think the CIA has been so heavily involved in toppling third world governments and replacing them with fascist puppet dictatorships? Today, the NAZI SS goes by the name of the BLACK OPS. One and the same. Like I said, you probably wont believe me. But as they say, "those conspiracies which are too incredible to be believed, are by the same right those which most often succeed" [simply because few people would dare believe them]. Congress has absolutely no power over this Executive-Military- Industrial BLACK OPS secret government simply because Congressional watchdogs/overseers are allowed only TOP SECRET security clearances, whereas the Black Ops operate at at least 30 security levels ABOVE AND BEYOND top secret. In other words, they operate IN THE BLACK. The late Phil Schneider [who supposedly committed suicide by strangling himself with piano wire] stated that the massive underground empire of the Black Opsinterconnected bomb shelters, subsurface bases, and even cities like Mt. Weathersiphon over 1.5 TRILLION dollars from the economy every two years. No wonder we are living a life of economic slavery and our national debt is in the Trillions. It was no accident. We must remember that although this plot is being carried out by National Socialists, the secret societies that back them are blatantly Luciferian, and thus they also have the intent to do away with Christians, Jews, Patriots, etc. So it is a SPIRITUAL conflict as well. Check out the following URL for info on this National Socialist infiltration of the USA following WWII. http://eaglenet.pair.com/omega The following comes from the above URL, and is a list of actual Executive Orders [interesting that most of the Chief Executives following JFK were hirelings of the CFR and other Corporate global agencies]. Never forget the STRONG connection between National, Communist and Corporate Socialists. The Luciferian cults of Bavaria had a hand in creating all three as part of a Machievellian system of world subversion. So in essence the right wing and the left wing are controlled by a single beast or dragon if you will. These blatantly Socialist E.O.s are as far as Im concerned Illegal, because they are NOT Congressionally approved. As far as Im concerned, the Congress is our government, NOT the Executive branch which is filled with unelected "appointees". The President should only serve as an arbitrator when Congress is split over
[CTRL] [3] Hitler's Priestess Ñ Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, and Neo-Nazism
-Caveat Lector- An excerpt from: Hitler's Priestess Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, and Neo-Nazism Nicholas Goodricke-Clarke©1998 New York University Press www.nyupress.nyu.edu ISBN 0-8147-3110-4 - Another fine one from, Mr. Goodricke-Clarke. Highly Reccomended. Om K - Chapter 3 HINDU NATIONALISM Savitri Devi regarded Hinduism as the only living Aryan heritage in the modern world. In her eyes, Hinduism was a powerful ally in her campaign to confront and oppose the Judaeo- Christian heritage and its casteless, egalitarian, challenge to the Aryan tradition. But her AryanNazi championship of Hinduism also interacted with domestic political movements in India between the wars. These movements were concerned with varieties of Hindu nationalism, conceived as an upper-caste strategy to unify and strengthen Indian society against the threat of other cultures (Islam and Christianity), while seeking to emulate the confidence and authority of the British. These movements were strongest in northern India, where the Muslim threat was more acutely perceived, and originated in Maharashtra, where Brahmin prestige had been challenged by backward caste movements from the 1870s onward. When Savitri Devi became politically active in the late -1930s, such Hindu nationalist movements as the Hindu Mahasabha and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS-National Volunteer Union) were growing rapidly in an urgent response to Muslim ascendancy. Both these movements had begun in the early 1920s against a background of massive communalization of Indian political life. The collapse of the Congress-Khilafat (Muslim) alliance after Gandhi's unilateral withdrawal of the Non-Cooperation movement in 1922 was followed by a great wave of riots, polarizing the Hindu and Muslim communities into conflicting camps. The same period saw the first organization of the Dalits (Untouchables or Scheduled Castes) as an anti-Brahmin movement in Maharashtra under Dr. B. R. Ambedkar. The Arya Samaj, a Hindu reforming sect of the mid-nineteenth century, championed the Aryans of the Vedic era, and the Hindu Sabha had already begun to channel these ideas into proto-Hindu nationalism in the Punjab by 1910. However, only with the launch in 1923 of the "Hindutva" idea by V. D. Savarkar, also from Maharashtra, did this ideology crystallize into an ethnic nationalism coupled with Brahminical authority. His idea inspired Dr. K. B. Hedgewar, a fellow Maharashtrian, to found the RSS, a youth organization intended to reinvigorate the nation through an awareness of India's glorious past, Hindu piety, paramilitary training, arid sports.[1] At this time Hinduism in India was also directly affected by the political institutions of British rule. The principle of communal representation became general in the award of 1932, which made provision for Muslim representation in state legislatures by quotas based on the numbers of each religious group in the population. The new Hindu political organizations sought to address this problem of declining Hindu influence by seeking conversions among non-Hindus and the return to the fold of former apostates through Hindu Missions. After her arrival in 1932, Savitri Devi had sought such a Hindu agency in South India, notably without success due to the greater integration of Islam in this region. The situation was altogether different in Bengal, where the political balance was more acute. In early 1937 she presented herself to Srimat Swami Satyananda, the president of the Hindu Mission in Calcutta, and asked if she might offer her services to the Mission. When Satyananda asked about her own religious beliefs, Savitri Devi declared she was an Aryan pagan and regretted the conversion of Europe to Christianity. She wanted to prevent the sole remaining country honoring Aryan gods from falling under the spiritual influence of the Jews. She also added that she was a devotee of Adolf Hitler, who was leading the only movement in this Aryan pagan spirit against the Judaeo-Christian civilization of the West. Satyananda was impressed by the young Greek woman with intense eyes and an outspoken manner. The Hindu Mission could certainly use such an ardent and educated fighter fluent in both Bengali and Hindi. In fact, Satyananda shared many Hindus' admiration for Hitler on account of his Aryan mythology and use of the swastika, the traditional sign of fortune and health. He told her that he considered Hitler an incarnation of Vishnu, an expression of the force preserving cosmic order. In his eyes the disciples of Hitler were the Hindus' spiritual brothers. With this meeting of minds, Satyananda engaged Savitri Devi as a Hindu Mission lecturer. Her duties involved speaking at the Mission headquarters in Calcutta and also traveling to give lectures throughout Bengal and the neighboring states of Bihar and Assam.[2] By the late 1930s Savitri Devi was living in the "Ganesh Mansion" at 220 Lower Circular Road, a major thoroughfare
Re: [CTRL] [weird] OT: court bans curriculum in NY schools (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- The plaintiff parents particularly objected to the fact that the tape, which they characterized as "nature worship and guided imagery," was played in science classes. I wonder how many parents offended by this sort thing are equally offended by the equally offensive posting of the ten commandments in the classroom. If religion belong in the classroom, ALL religions belong in the classroom. If religion does not beling in the classroom, NO religions belong in the classroom. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [4] Hitler's Priestess Ñ Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, and Neo-Nazism
-Caveat Lector- An excerpt from: Hitler's Priestess Savitri Devi, The Hindu-Aryan Myth, and Neo-Nazism Nicholas Goodricke-Clarke©1998 New York University Press www.nyupress.nyu.edu ISBN 0-8147-3110-4 - Another fine one from, Mr. Goodricke-Clarke. Highly Recommended Om K - 10 THE ODESSA CONNECTION The complete and utter defeat of the Third Reich, the exposure of its crimes and atrocities, and the accompanying programs of denazification and reeducation of the German people combined to vilify Adolf Hitler and National Socialism throughout the Western world. After 1945, Savitri Devi had exchanged her former isolation in India for the marginal role of a die-hard Nazi agent in occupied Germany and elsewhere in Europe. In the late 1940s and early 1950s she was an obscure figure inhabiting a twilight world of bewildered Nazis filled with bitterness, revanchist ideas, and wild hopes of Hitler's return. We have seen her distributing leaflets amid the ruined cities of the fallen Reich, meeting secretly with small conventicles of unrepentant Nazis, and offering comfort to fellow prisoners at Werl, war criminals' widows, and other devotees of the defeated idol. The quixotic and sectarian nature of her postwar activity is highlighted further by her pilgrimage to Austria and Germany in 1953. Throughout this tour she regularly invoked the gods and performed solitary rituals at such places as the Nuremberg rally grounds and the Externsteine in a passionate if desperate attempt to reverse the Allied defeat and urge the resurrection of an Aryan Germany. This situation of isolation and helplessness was soon to change. Through her reckless and outspoken advocacy of Hitler's cause, she was becoming known in clandestine Nazi circles. She had undertaken her one-woman propaganda crusade in the British zone of occupied Germany without the involvement or knowledge of any Nazi support organization, much to the frustration of several interrogators following her arrest. But the story of her mission and imprisonment soon spread among the inmates of Werl prison and she became a trusted comrade of these and other detainees following their release from Allied prisons. Many of these new friendships offered her an introduction into the political organizations dedicated to a nurturing and revival of Nazism. Above all, this network of Nazi organizations was itself growing and becoming more securely established at the time of her release from Werl. Once denazification had been sacrificed to the Allies' fresh interest in wooing the Germans for the Cold War against the Soviet Union, new political parties began to spring up in Germany that owed much of their inspiration to National Socialism. One of the earliest was the Sozialistische Reichspartei (SRP) founded in October 1949 and led by Otto Ernst Remer, who had been promoted to general following his role in foiling the bomb plot of disaffected high military and aristocrats against Hitler on 20 July 1944. In the May 1951 Land elections the SRP polled 11 percent of the vote and won sixteen seats in the Lower Saxony diet. The Nazi affiliation of the SRP was manifest in Remer's trenchant attacks on the Americans, whom he accused of constructing fake gas chambers at Dachau to discredit the Germans, and on the Adenauer government together with the "criminals of the 20 July." Such overt Nazi political activity was deemed illegal under the Basic Law of the newly founded German Federal Republic and Remer was sentenced to three months' imprisonment. The Karlsruhe supreme court declared the SRP unconstitutional in July 1952 and the party was banned. Meanwhile Adenauer's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and other parties scrambled to pick up the 367,000 votes of the outlawed SRP, and the CDU succeeded in boosting its share of the vote in Lower Saxony from 17 to 33 percent. However, considerable numbers of SRP voters and supporters were not long in expressing their nostalgic Nazism through a successor party, whose activities were in the ascendant by the time Savitri Devi returned to Germany in April 1953. The Deutsche Reichspartei (DRP) traced its origins to a merger of two small far-right parties first launched in the aftermath of defeat in November 1945. After 1952 the DRP was the most influential electoral force on the extreme right with some sixteen thousand paid-up members, a few seats in the Land diets, and about half a million votes across the country in federal elections. Led by Adolf von Thadden, the DRP boasted such former celebrities of the Third Reich as Werner Naumann, a former Nazi secretary of state and Hitler's choice to succeed Goebbels; SS General Wilhelm Meinberg; a number of Wehrmacht generals; and the Luftwaffe ace Hans-Ulrich Rudel. However, the DRP was only the most prominent of the neo-Nazi organizations that flourished in Germany during the 1950s. According to the Ministry of Interior's annual report on neo-Nazism, there were at least a hundred parties, leagues,
Re: [CTRL] What is truth?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Lee wrote: Sacramento synagogues torched in 'night of fire' How long are you people going to " chat " with this nazi prick? Until his alien implants misfire painfully and he goes away. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Djinns
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is it that the people in the subcontinent mostly encounter jinns, the presence of which is verified in the Holy Quran, The djinns are an entirely different matter. They don't come from another world. They live here all the time. Prudy Republicans and Reptilioids have been here a long time too, but Afghanis rarely report seeing any. The areal distribution is quite distinct. BTW yesterday was the 143rd anniversary of the founding of the Republican Party, in Wisconsin. Old conspiracy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: How to be a professional UFO-proponent in just a few EZ to follow Steps!!
-Caveat Lector- note: The following applies to political conspiratorialists too. --Ric On Sun, 04 Jul 1999 23:28:16 GMT, in alt.paranet.ufo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The_Sage) wrote: How to be a Newsgroup UFO proponent in a few EZ Steps!! For years, many concerned believers have wanted to be let in on the secrets on how to be a successful Newsgroup UFO proponent and thank God their prayers have finally been answered! Now anyone can become a member of the world's largest cult without spending a dime! All it requires is that you read this post with an open mind -- but remember to read every other post other than this one with a closed mind!! So without further delay, here is the first lesson. The first thing you need to know is how to speak the language of UFOlogists: WHAT THE UFOLOGIST SAYS.WHAT THE UFOLOGIST MEANS "This poorly taken ."I'm clueless" photo is proof that UFOs exist" "There are millions of ."I have no witnesses" UFO witnesses, they are just too afraid to come forward for fear of ridicule" "The alien implants."I have no facts" were here a moment ago!" "I can't prove that."I still have no facts" alien abductions happen, but neither can you prove that they don't happen" "The government is ."You'll think I have conspiring to withold facts, but I won't" the truth from us" Easy, isn't it? But wait! There's more! To misquote Ayn Rand, "UFO skeptics have a weapon against you called Reason. So you must be very sure to take it away from them. Cut the props from under it. But be careful. Don't deny outright. Never deny anything outright, you give your hand away. Don't say that reason is evil -- though some have gone that far and with astonishing success. Just say that reason is limited. That there's something above it. What? You don't have to be too clear about it either. The field's inexhaustible: 'Remote Viewing' -- 'ESP' -- 'Feeling' -- 'Revelation' -- 'Divine Intuition'. But even if you get caught at some crucial point and somebody tells you that your alleged UFO experience doesn't make sense -- you're ready for them. You tell them that there's something above sense. That here he must not try to think, he must *feel*. He must *believe*. Suspend reason and you play it deuces wild...Can we rule a thinking skeptic? We UFOlogists don't want any thinking people." "But how do I post on a newsgroup?" you may be asking. Well I've got the answer to that too: #1) Always post the same 'ol story -- It's true, UFO proponents always post the same ol' story over and over again, acting as if they repeat it enough times, someone somewhere will eventually believe it is true just from hypnotic repetition -- and they are right! #2) Ignore all credible posts. We are here to fool the public. #3) Spam. The more you talk the more somebody is bound to listen eventually. #4) IMPORTANT: As often as possible UFO proponents, the following sentence must be used as frequently as possible, usually on a daily basis: "You are the delusional one, not me!". A variation of this approach is the ever famous, "I know you are but what am I?". #5) When discussing alien abductions, the word "confabulation" should be ignored at all costs. #6) Whatever you do, proponents, never discuss the facts. Those are items we do not want to discuss. We just want to discuss unvalidatable experiences and unconfirmed testamonials, just like the kind you see on the front cover of those grocery store tabloids! #7) If you have to respond to a request for a fact or two, then make something up. Remember that the ETs are such an ultra-advanced species that anything is possible for the ETs -- trust me! #8) Don't tell the public anything except what you want them to hear. Pretend we know what we are talking about and that we have told the public everything. The bigger the lie the better the lie. If anyone suggests that the National Reconnaissance Office or NASA or the CIA or the National Security Agency is NOT hiding information, pretend you have "insider information" on all of them, that supercedes anything they could ever possibly come up with!!! #9) Attack the person - try and change the topic from the request for facts to the person requesting the facts. Remember that it is THEY who are the close-minded ones, not us, so make sure you emphasize this point! #10) Last but not least; pretend you are the only one who knows what is "really" going on. As an addendum, discredit the late Carl Sagan all you can while you are at it, especially now that he can't defend himself! Remember that Carl Sagan is delusional, a liar, is a puppet for the CIA, loves fried peanut butter and bananna sandwiches, etc. Keep this in mind: Members of the Intelligence Agencies could care less about whatever drivel...uh, I mean facts...you have to
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990706a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No psychiatrists were assassinated during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Hidden dimensions may permit parallel universes, explain cosmic mysteries. Imagine a mansion with a secret room - the perfect setting for a mystery. Now imagine that the room is vastly bigger than the mansion itself - and contains more mansions. That would make the mystery pretty bizarre. But it's very much like a story scientists tell about the universe. In what sounds like an episode of The Twilight Zone, physicists have realized that nature may be concealing extra dimensions - not of sight or sound, but of space itself. http://www.dallasnews.com:80/science/0705sci1branes.htm : Are hidden dimensions useful places to stash your dope? If you hide any- thing there, will you ever see it again? Are concealed dimensions findable? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The best damn Paranormal Science FAQ you'll ever read!!! If you search all links on the Internet regarding paranormal science, you will note that all anyone has to offer about paranormal phenomena are explanations. One mech- anically repeatable experiment is worth 10,000 good-sounding explanations. http://x46.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=497228504CONTEXT=931206524.1269235850 : Do you have any good-sounding explanations? Does anyone believe you? Do you believe yourself? Are you normal, paranormal, abnormal, subnormal, fat? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CUSTOM-MADE BODY PARTS. Researchers are using MRI and CT scan images and industrial manufacturing techniques to create new plastic models that can help doctors better diagnose disease and injury. Scan me in: http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/member/technology/story/20570.html # Also: Patching Up the Player: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/17288.html # Knee Deep in High-Tech Help: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/17236.html # Hacking the Human CPU: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/9409.html # Voxels Let Doctors Get Beneath the Surface: http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/1086.html : What body parts would you like replicated? Will anyone buy a plastic model of you? Are you worth replicating? Have aliens already taken casts of you? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # WANT TO LIVE TO 100? 'DON'T DIE'. A new study of centenarians has revealed some of the qualities that may have contributed to their longevity. Along with a genetic predisposition, they had a good sense of humor and handled stress well. Moderation and a positive attitude are important for good health - and also, it seems, for a long life. And don't do really stupid stuff: http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=11640 : Are we all immortal until we die? Will you die? Anytime soon? Will you be trans-human soon? Are conspiratorialists too stressed to survive? Is stress an evolutionary tool to weed-out the humorless others undeserving of life? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Bonanza of ice-age artifacts redefine America's pre-history. ALLENDALE, S.C. (CNN) -- A virtual gold mine of ice-age artifacts recently found on the banks of the Savannah River in South Carolina is forcing archeolo- ists to revise theories for how and when humans first migrated to North America. http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9907/02/t_t/old.south.dig/ : Did we humans migrate to Carolina on our own, or were we planted here by deities, aliens, robots, fate? Did we arrive on foot, by boat, train, UFO? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Getting DIRT on the Bad Guys. To ex-dick Frank Jones, "secure network" is an oxymoron. The word "delete" isn't in his vocabulary. Password-protect your computer and you'll make his day. And if you really get on Jones' bad side, he'll take complete control of your PC - and your first clue will be when you open your door and the boys in overcoats start flashing badges at you. http://www.pcworld.com/shared/printable_articles/0,1440,11614,00.html : Are They out to get you? Have your net.crimes been discovered? Do you have immunity? Will the voices in your head lead you to safety? Will you confess? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ $ DETECTIVE'S HELPER. 100's of links. Use the web to reverse trace an email address, get an address from a phone number, check someone's military rec- ord, surf the net anonymously, protect your own personal information, and find everyone else's information. The vast majority of these links are free. The rest aren't. http://www.webfellows.com/tufop/detective.html : Do you prefer information or disinformation? How well can you hide? What do you have to hide? Are They out to get you? Are you out to get Them? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ TELEPATHIC ALIENS AND JOE. Is Joe 'X' being driven
Re: [CTRL] How Christianity Harms the Race
-Caveat Lector- Misfiring alien implant, eh? bzzt Damn implants... bzzt I just performed a simple experiment that perhaps you dog owners out there might care to duplicate. I just called my dog "Zog," and he responded! Then I called him "Gog" and he repsonded. It gets worse. I then tried calling him "Gog Magaog," and he repsonded to that, too! Now he's sitting here staring at me in a most peculiar fashion. I'm thinking of having him X-rayed for implants. That's a paranoid thought if ever there was one. I'm not paranoid; why would I be thinking paranoid thoughts? Maybe they are being beamed into my brain. But by whom!?! Maybe I'm under observation. Maybe we're ALL under observation. Hmmmn. Maybe I should go for a walk and think this over. I'd better take the dog with me. I can't leave him alone here with my computer because he might be a spy. Wow. That's an even MORE paranoid thought than thinking he might have implants. Where ARE these thoughts coming from? Now I HAVE to go for a walk to think this over. But he's coming with me whether he wants to or not. See, there, I've outsmarted him. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How Christianity Harms the Race
-Caveat Lector- ROFLMAO Om K In a message dated 7/6/99 9:44:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just performed a simple experiment that perhaps you dog owners out there might care to duplicate. I just called my dog "Zog," and he responded! Then I called him "Gog" and he repsonded. It gets worse. I then tried calling him "Gog Magaog," and he repsonded to that, too! Now he's sitting here staring at me in a most peculiar fashion. I'm thinking of having him X-rayed for implants. That's a paranoid thought if ever there was one. I'm not paranoid; why would I be thinking paranoid thoughts? Maybe they are being beamed into my brain. But by whom!?! Maybe I'm under observation. Maybe we're ALL under observation. Hmmmn. Maybe I should go for a walk and think this over. I'd better take the dog with me. I can't leave him alone here with my computer because he might be a spy. Wow. That's an even MORE paranoid thought than thinking he might have implants. Where ARE these thoughts coming from? Now I HAVE to go for a walk to think this over. But he's coming with me whether he wants to or not. See, there, I've outsmarted him. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990706b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No Bilderbergers were assassinated during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Suspect in shooting spree kills self, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560194809-a35 # Also: Thumbnails of shooting victims, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560191934-4e7 # Also: Reconstructing the shooting spree, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560192576-afd # And: Shooting suspect's church criticized, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560193097-bc3 # Motive sought in shooting spree, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560194464-371 # Also: Victim says gunman had 'predator' look, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560184791-19c # Also: Alleged gunman had racist bent, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560187444-367 # Also: Israel shocked by Chicago shooting, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560178506-a15 # And: Gunman linked to anti-minority group, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560184788-a1b : Does your belief system promote murder? Would you mind being killed your- self? If you're a Caucasian, should you go back to Caucasia? Soon, I hope? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Supremacist group's Web site closed. (AP) The official Web site of a white supremacist group linked to the weekend Midwest shootings has closed, but an associated site declares the attacks weren't hate crimes. The World Church of the Creator's Web site was accessible after Benjamin Nathaniel Smith committed suicide and included discussions of the drive-by shootings which left 2 dead and 8 wounded. Later attempts to access the site were met with a note that simply said, "Forbidden. You don't have permission to access on this server." An affiliated Web site that itself hosts Internet links to Church of the Creator sites from around the world has a message that sought to defend "White Racialism" "in light of what is going on in the news." http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560191952-bf7 : Do you promote racialism, murder, mayhem, because of deeply-held beliefs, or for fun, profit, madness, alien implants, CIA mind-control rays, disease? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Study: Internet feeds delusions. TAMPA, Fla. (AP) The Internet appears to have infiltrated yet another aspect of modern life - the delusions of the actively psychotic. Researchers cited evidence that fears of the Internet are replacing Communists, the CIA and the controlling power of radio waves as a frequent delusion of new psychiatric patients. Every case of Internet delusion documented by the researchers involved people who actually had little experience with computers. Clueless newbies run amok - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560188540-cf2 : Does the Net control your mind? Does your mind control the Net? Is synergy at work? Does everything partially control everything else, while nothing/ nobody controls everything completely, successfully? Are you totally out of control? Are we all un-indicted co-conspirators? Does the Web enmesh you??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ ELECTRONIC MIND WEAPONS - ABUSE PREVENTION. The first step toward preven- tion of illegal mind manipulation with these electronic weapons is to make their existence public knowledge and to document misuse wherever it occurs so that the public can be on guard for perpetrators and symptoms of abuse. Establishing the existence of the technology is step number one. Unfortu- nately, it is difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff, fact from fraud. This is one factor making the exposure of the conspiracy so diffi- cult, making it so easy for conspirators to succeed with their deceptions. http://x45.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=489253212.6CONTEXT=931283438.645202035 : Do you use electronic mind weapons for illegal manipulation? Are they fun? Whose minds are you controlling right now? Mine too? Why am I thinking this? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Branch Davidian suit will continue - charges US gov't responsible: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560160509-46a # Confederate heritage group rejects Ku Klux Klan support: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560194644-e6b # Pres. Clinton authorized CIA to overthrow Yugoslav Pres. Milosevic: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560185356-c37 # "Father of H-bomb" pans nuke lab spy probes - Congress blabs more: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560184718-154 @ The Sage's 10 Facts in Respect to Alien Abductions: http://x39.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=497193868CONTEXT=931207465.1060241415 @ How to be
[CTRL] Fw: Fw: [CTRL] ime: Clinton Approves CIA Role
-Original Message- From: Brian Lantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linda Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 11:24 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [CTRL] ime: Clinton Approves CIA Role At 05:26 PM 07/05/1999 -0500, you wrote on Clinton's CIA role. Attached is a recent compendium of developments - "slugs" mostly - on key developments -Brian Briefing - July 6, 1999 (Compiled from July 1-6, 1999) Lead: THE OLIGARCHY SACRIFICES ITS OWN Look at the extraordinary treatment that Henry Kissinger received last week in -- of all places, London -- where is it reported that he walked out of one rather hostile interview in a rage, and he was reduced to laughing and spitting in the face of another interviewer. Among the questions posed to Henry -- who is being likened to a war criminal -- was whether he felt like a fraud. That this would happen to Kissinger, in London, is but one reflection of the turmoil now raging in the oligarchy; one section of the oligarchy recognizes that the global financial system is blowing up, and, realizing this, they are willing to sacrifice some from their own ranks, in order that they can continue to rule. They will slaughter their own. They know their system is blowing up; even to the extent that they publicly announced this in the pages of {Daily Telegraph} last week, which warned that the phase of low inflation is ending, and that very rapidly, as the bubble bursts, the system can shift into the phase of hyperinflation. This is a period of coups, destabilizations, and dictatorships. The question is thus posed: unless the world goes LaRouche's way, it goes the way of coup d'etat and dictatorship. That is the trajectory of the world financial system, which determines how it will behave. Either that system is overthrown and replaced, or it hurls the world into a New Dark Age. Exemplary of the current state of mind of the oligarchy, is the way they ran the Balkans war, and the way they are now determined to sabotage the peace. Look at the op-ed by former German Defense Minister Lothar Ruehl last Friday in the {FAZ}, entitled "A Half Victory," in which he pointed out the failure of the air war against Yugoslavia to inflict anywhere near the amount of damage which was being claimed. Ruehl described a situation of total incompetence by NATO -- in which one can only conclude that the lunatics are in charge. These are the "Sorcerer's Apprentices" playing out their role. What then was the aim of NATO's war? What did NATO do? The only bombing that was "effective" was that which targetted the civilian infrastructure of Yugoslavia. The objective was to destroy the infrastructure of the Balkans region, spread destruction and chaos into Russia and Central Asia, and into Western Europe as well. The aim is to bring down the European economy. What the oligarchy is carrying out, is a Dark Age strategy. That is their intent. This is a Guelph-League strategy. They want a planetary dark age, they want to eliminate the nation-state, and to eliminate what they regard in their evil minds as "over-population." Look at how much money was spent to conduct the war, but now, they won't spend anything to shape the outcome of the war, and to guarantee a stable peace. Billions for war, but not a penny for peace! The oligarchy wants to destroy -- it doesn't want to build. And don't believe any of the b.s. about "democracy," that if Yugoslavia "democratizes," then it will get reconstruction money. The people claiming this, are the same people that are working to keep Milosevic in power! And, speaking of Henry Kissinger, that brings us to the case of Susan Rice, the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs, who recently gave a confession reminiscent of Kissinger's 1982 Chatham House address, the one in which he divulged his own British pedigree. Speaking at Rhodes House at Oxford University on May 13, Susan Rice gushed that coming back there, after nine years, was like coming home. Nine years ago, she recalled, she spent much of her time in the library at Rhodes House, and she went on to reveal that "much of what I know about Africa was discovered within these walls, refined at this great university, with the generous support of the Rhodes Trust." Contrast this with the speech given by Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe -- who, in effect, told the IMF to shove it. Mugabe attacked the conditionalities of the IMF, which he called "this creature," and he said that Zimbabweans are a proud people. "We will strive to go our own way," Mugabe declared. "The IMF can go away if they want." By the way, we have heard from high-level Japanese sources, that the Japanese financial balloon will stabilize only when it reaches a geo-stationary orbit. So, the system is coming down. The only issue is, does it collapse of its own accord, dragging the world into a new Dark Age of disease
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Black Ops? - 1/2
-Caveat Lector- At 12:48 PM 7-6-1999 EDT, Kris posted: snip From: "Steven Wallace, Sr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ivan Shapiro) Date: 7/1/99 8:38:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Fwd: EVACUATIONS UNDERWAY THIRTY MILITARY FAMILIES SUDDENLY LEAVE THE U.S. Col. Jim Ammerman is the military chaplin that has been exposing what is going on in the military concerning the plans of the one world conspiracy. In a recent interview on short wave radio with Chris Gerner, Col. Ammerman reveals that some of his air force friends have sold their homes and their cars and have suddenly moved their families out of the 48 states. They could not reveal exactly out what they were told, but they did say that they saw orders or plans that something was going to happen in America, and when it did there could be a 50% death rate nationwide. They decided to leave the country Re: Col. Jim Ammerman, "military chaplin" --- - British Intelligence ? - Tavistock MK Special Ops ? British Subversion of the United States: Who is wagging your neighbor's tongue? The militias and Pentecostalism by Anton Chaitkin http://www.larouchepub.com/ahc.html The author requests all questions, comments or further intelligence leads be sent to Anton Chaitkin c/o [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The greatest threat from terrorism in the United States comes from people who are associated with a British Church of England-run Pentecostalist movement inside the United States. It is this apparatus which has structured the militias. Now, most people in the militia movement, or associated with it, have no part of the intentions of those who are behind it, particularly that section in the Episcopal Church, or Pat Robertson, who's part of this same movement, who are barking -- authentically barking -- Pentecostalists, who, with their connections with the military, deeply embedded in the military, including the ... corps of chaplains in the U.S. military, are largely controlled, presently, by outright barking Pentecostalists... This is the ... main source of the internal threat of the potential for terrorism, and other kinds of treason inside the United States, today." -- Lyndon LaRouche, "EIR Talks," July 30, 1997. Two years after the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal building, a stream of lies is pouring through British-run media sewers, preparing credulous populists to view terrorism, or even civil war, as inevitable. The grotesque joke is on the American populists. Their paramilitary militias, and Pentecostal sects, are creations of the very "Godless internationalists" they believe they are resisting. The British Empire high church apparatus seeks to reduce the American mind to that of a clown, a hypnotized "Christian" who babbles or barks like a dog; a "patriot" numbed by anti-government gossip and Armageddonism, so that he sees his own nation as his enemy. Will these Americans provide cover, and become patsies, for criminal outrages by professional terrorists? In hopes that, instead, they will get out of the game, and turn their righteous anger against their manipulators, we offer this report on how the game is rigged. This investigation began with a probe into the armed standoff between police and "Republic of Texas" members demanding the secession of Texas, in April 1997. This writer telephoned into the besieged compound and interviewed Richard Otto, alias "White Eagle," who said he was asking members of militias around the country to come to the site, armed for a shootout. I checked Otto's background, and then shared my findings informally with militia members and others who might have been drawn into the provocation. Otto, it turns out, had been trained and set into motion by an Air Force officer who toured the world practicing New Age pagan rituals, in consultation with senior British intelligence drug-rock-sex gurus such as Gregory Bateson. This unappetizing profile, subsequently spread around by wary militants themselves, helped to discredit and defeat the provocation. While Otto and his band surrendered on May 3, reports flooded into this news service of continuing, outrageous provocations. Among these was the bizarre case of an anti-government Texas demagogue with important military connections, one Jim Ammerman, whose incitements have been widely circulating among separatists and militia members. A Pentecostal clergyman and retired Army colonel, Ammerman now controls chaplains currently serving in the U.S. Armed Forces around the world, as well as within prisons, and even in the Federal Bureau of Investigation. He claims supernatural prophetic powers, preaches the imminent end of the world, denounces the U.S. government as illegal, and says the President has deserved execution. During the April siege, Ammerman "mediated" between the Texas
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Black Ops? - 2/2
-Caveat Lector- cont'd: It is necessary first to bring to light a myth known as British Israelism, which stands behind Pentecostalism. This is an evil piece of historical race gossip, spread into American religion, into the ranks of American populists, poisoning the minds of separatists and Armageddon terrorists. The British monarchy and its prime ministers and Foreign Office fabricated British Israelism in the nineteenth century, from earlier versions of the story. They claimed that Queen Victoria was descended from the Biblical King David, and was thus a descendant of the Davidic family tree that produced Jesus. They taught that the tribes of Israel wandered into northern Europe; that by this supposed genealogy, the British are the real Chosen People, and the British Empire is thus God's empire. The modern Jews, by this British account, are not the historical Hebrews of Old Testament Israel, but rather, the British are. But, says the British Israel myth, in a leap of logic, the Jews need to be put into Palestine, to fulfill prophecy, get slaughtered in a war with the Muslims, and bring about the End Times. To provide fuel for this mythology, the royal family asked the British Grand Lodge of Freemasonry to establish the Palestine Exploration Fund. In the 1870s, they dispatched soldier-archeologists to the Holy Land, to dig up supposed religious relics that might impress the cheap fancies of the beggarly masses. British Israelism designed its Jewish angle to be worked in many politically useful ways, along a spectrum from Nazi anti-Semitism to radical Zionism. The cynical character of this entire travesty may be seen, in the way the story was changed to suit imperial politics. During the 1870s, Germany broke from allegiance to British free trade doctrines. The London "prophets" then reconfigured ancient history. Suddenly, it wasn't Britain and Germany, collectively the Nordic Aryans, who were the wandering Chosen People, but only Britain. Modern Germans, it had been discovered, are the ancient Assyrians! In his book Religion and the Racist Right: The Origins of the Christian Identity Movement, author Michael Barkun presents a nagging paradox, which he never solves. He reports that British Israelism originates with the British military, the Anglican Church, the British upper classes, who are fanatical loyalists to the government, the British Empire. Yet, this mother has given birth to the Christian Identity Movement, whose racist paranoia and paramilitary anger are aimed against the government, the United States government. Barkun cannot puzzle out the mystery, how the same historical movement can both support the government, and oppose the government! The British Empire invents Pentecostalism According to Pentecostal lore, the movement began when a woman spoke in tongues in the church of Charles Fox Parham in Topeka, Kansas, in 1901. Reverend Parham spread the method until it blossomed in the famous Azusa Street, Los Angeles, revival of 1906; from there, disciples took it around the world. During the year preceeding the launch-time, Parham had caught fire with British Israelism. He had been indoctrinated into the Empire's mystery cult by emissaries of one Frank Sandford, who ran a cult center called Shiloh, near Durham, Maine. Parham made a pilgrimage and studied under Sandford at Shiloh, after which the two of them went on tour through Canada. Sandford had made the New England Toryism of his fancy Anglophile family relations into a career, travelling back and forth to England, working to inculcate Americans into the British Empire gospel. In those days, British Israelism was not shy. Its literature, such as The Anglo-American Alliance in Prophecy, or The Promise to the Fathers, published by Our Race Publishing Co., featured the masonic mummery of a pyramid topped by an all-seeing eyeball. The Egyptian pyramids allegedly contained coded secrets for understanding prophecy. The explicit message of the British Israel propaganda was, Americans should give up their mistaken Revolution, and reunite with their Anglo-Saxon racial brethren in the English fatherland. The movement's masonic Anglomania was proudly displayed. Parham's biography, written by his daughter, includes a photo of a mystery gavel, brought back from Palestine and donated by Parham to his masonic lodge. With British Israelism as his theory of man's cosmic destiny, Parham began teaching Americans how to die mentally, to speak in tongues, as a religious exercise, allegedly re-creating the descent of the Holy Ghost upon Christ's Apostles during the Jewish feast of Pentecost. He took this show on the road from Topeka, and in Houston, Texas, a black preacher named William J. Seymour, the son of a slave, became part of his audience. The catch was, that Parham, being a crazed racist, would not permit Seymour inside the lecture hall; he had to
[CTRL] CIA/NATO + KLA - heroin dealing
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.copvcia.com/KLA1.htm Kosovo Liberation Army and Albanian Sponsors Have Well Documented Roots in The Heroin Trade By Michael C. Ruppert The Drug Trade Is Entrenched in NATO Politics An exceptional record of respected media sources from the U.S. and Europe have documented that the Kosovo Liberation Army and their Albanian sponsors are heroin financed organized crime groups struggling to dominate the flow of middle eastern heroin into Europe and even the Eastern United States. The Christian Science Monitor reported on Oct. 20, 1994: "Disrupted by the Yugoslav conflict, drug trafficking across the Balkans is making a comeback as Albanian mafia barons carve out a new smuggling route to Western Europe, bypassing the peninsula's war zones, according to United Nations and other narcotics experts." To document the increase in traffic through the Albanian Kosovar region The Monitor continued, "For example, just 14 pounds of hard drugs were seized by Hungarian police in 1990, but by August this year [1994] the figure had risen to 1,304 pounds." In describing the then evolving trade, which was coming to be dominated by Kosovar Albanians The Monitor added, "But European police chiefs fear the conduit will strengthen Kosovo Albanian drug syndicates -- some of the most powerful on the continent -- whose tentacles have stretched as far as the East coast of the United States... "From their base in Velki Trnovac in southern Serbia, dubbed the 'Medellin of the Balkans,' Albanian mafia chiefs oversee their European drug operation and are suspected of masterminding the new Balkan route." Colombia in the Balkans The highly respected Jane's Intelligence Review from Great Britain went much deeper in predicting the coming crisis in a February 1, 1995 article entitled The Balkan Medellin. Three paragraphs from that article are so compelling we reprint them here in their entirety. "The Albanian-dominated region of western Macedonia accounts for a disproportionate share of Macedonia's (FYROM) shrinking GDP. This situation has strengthened Albanophobic sentiments among the ethnic Macedonian majority, especially as a great deal of revenue is thought to derive from Albanian narco-terrorism as well as associated gun-running and cross-border smuggling to and from Albania, Bulgaria and the Kosovo province of Serbia. Although its extent and forms remain in dispute, this rising Albanian economic power is helping to turn the Balkans into a hub of criminality. "Previously transported to Western Europe through former Yugoslavia, heroin from Turkey, the Transcaucus and points further east is now being increasingly routed to Italy via the Black Sea, Albania, Bulgaria and Macedonia. This is a development that has strengthened the Albanian mafia which is now thought to control 70% of the illegal heroin market in Germany and Switzerland. Closely allied to the powerful Sicilian mafia, the Albanian associates have also greatly benefited from the presence of large numbers of mainly Kosovar Albanians in a number of western European countries; Switzerland alone now has over 100,000 ethnic Albanian residents. As well as providing a perfect cover for Albanian criminals, this diaspora is also a useful source of income for racketeers... "If left unchecked, this growing Albanian narco-terrorism could lead to a Colombian syndrome in the Southern Balkans, or the emergence of a situation in which the Albanian mafia becomes powerful enough to control one or more states in the region. In practical terms, this will involve either Albania or Macedonia, or both. Politically, this is now being done by channeling growing foreign exchange (forex) profits from narco-terrorism into local governments and political parties. In Albania, the ruling Democratic Party (DP) led by President Sali Berisha is now widely suspected of tacitly tolerating and even directly profiting from drug-trafficking for wider politico-economic reasons, namely the financing of secessionist political parties and other groupings in Kosovo and Macedonia." These four-year-old evaluations, along with an abundance of other evidence of Albanian-Kosovar mafia expansion paint a whole new picture of what is really happening in Kosovo. Clearly Serbia is legitimately defending itself from an organized crime syndicate taking control of one of its provinces. How powerful is the Albanian mafia? Well, as far back as 1985 it was powerful enough to frighten New York U.S. attorney Rudy Giulliani who, according to a Wall Street Journal story dated September 9, was receiving special personal protection after prosecuting a heroin case in New York City connected to a ring of powerful Albanian traffickers. The Journal wrote, "But it is drug trafficking that has gained Albanian organized crime the most notoriety. Some Albanians, according to federal Drug Enforcement Agency
[CTRL] Humor from Children
-Caveat Lector- An acquaintance of mine who is a physician told this story about her then four-year-old daughter. On the way to preschool, the doctor had left her stethoscope on the car seat, and her little girl picked it up and began playing with it. Be still my heart, thought my friend, my daughter wants to follow in my footsteps! Then the child spoke into the instrument: "Welcome to McDonald's. May I take your order?" A mother was preparing pancakes for her sons, Kevin, 5, and Ryan, 3. They began to argue over who would get the first pancake. Their mother saw the opportunity for a moral lesson. "If Jesus were sitting here, He would say, "Let my brother have the first pancake. I can wait." Kevin turned to his younger brother and said, "Ryan, you be Jesus!" == A student was asked to list the 10 commandments in any order. His answer: 3, 6, 1, 8, 4, 5, 9, 2, 10, 7. A father was at the beach with his children when the four-year-old son ran up to him, grabbed his hand, and led him to the shore, where a seagull lay dead in the sand. "Daddy, what happened to him?" the son asked. "He died and went to heaven," the dad replied. The boy thought a moment and then said, "Did God throw him back down?" === After the church service a little boy told the pastor, "When I grow up, I'm going to give you some money." Well, Because my daddy says you're one of the poorest preachers we've ever had." A wife invited some people to dinner. At the table, she turned to their six-year-old daughter and said, "Would you like to say the blessing?" " "I wouldn't know what to say," the girl replied. "Just say what you hear mommy say," the wife answered. The daughter bowed her head and said, "Lord why on earth did I invite all these people to dinner" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] bin Laden May Be Receiving Millions
-Caveat Lector- JULY 06, 14:02 EDT bin Laden May Be Receiving Millions By SALAH NASRAWI Associated Press Writer CAIRO, Egypt (AP) Saudi and Gulf businessmen have donated tens of millions to help Osama bin Laden, the man hunted for masterminding the bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, to rebuild his campaign against the United States, sources said Tuesday. Donations from sympathetic businessmen in the form of religious alms began to flow in faster after Washington offered a $5 million reward for bin Laden's capture in January, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The sources, who included Saudi businessmen, told The Associated Press in Cairo that bin Laden may have received more than $50 million before Saudi authorities uncovered the donations and stopped the transfers recently. Saudi authorities questioned and rebuked several leading entrepreneurs over donations, including the owner of one of the Gulf's largest advertising firms, the sources said, refusing to give his name. In an effort to further squeeze bin Laden, President Clinton ordered financial sanctions Monday against the Taliban religious militia that rules most of Afghanistan, where bin Laden has been based for the past four years. The executive order freezes Taliban assets within U.S. jurisdiction and bars trade with the group. The United States accuses bin Laden of masterminding the deadly Aug. 7, 1998, bombings of its embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which killed 224 people and injured thousands. Last week, Washington warned that bin Laden may be preparing another attack as the anniversary of the embassy bombings approaches. It briefly closed six of its African embassies in late June. Bin Laden the son of a wealthy Saudi tycoon, now stripped of his citizenship and shunned by his family is believed to have received funds from Gulf businessmen in the 1980s, when he fought alongside Mujahedeen guerrillas against Soviet troops in Afghanistan. But he is reportedly suffering from cash problems because of the recent U.S. crackdown, which included the freezing of his accounts abroad. In June, the FBI put bin Laden on its 10 Most Wanted list. New contributions would most likely help bin Laden gather activists and accelerate any plans for attacks against American targets. The sources said most of the donations were given in the form of religious alms that Muslims are required to give to the poor but radical clerics say alms can also be paid for promoting ``Islamic'' causes. Many in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf see bin Laden as a larger-than-life icon fighting the world's most powerful nation on behalf of Islam. Bin Laden has denied any role in the attacks against Americans. However, in an interview with an Arabic television last month, bin Laden expressed admiration for the people who bombed American forces in Saudi Arabia in 1995 and 1996 and said that all Americans were legitimate targets. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Suspicious Gas Found in Nebraska
-Caveat Lector- JULY 06, 12:47 EDT Suspicious Gas Found in Nebraska By SCOTT BAUER Associated Press Writer HASTINGS, Neb. (AP) Devices suspected to be poison gas bombs were found in and around a man's apartment, prompting evacuation of his building and nearby homes during night. Police Chief Larry Thoren said authorities believed substances found at the scene Monday were some highly toxic form of fluorine-based gas. Six devices were taken to the Hastings landfill, doused with diesel fuel and detonated early today. The homemade devices ``had the potential of doing great harm,'' police Sgt. Dan Losada said. Materials used in them could be obtained in any hardware store, pharmacy or grocery store, he said. Thoren said authorities called for an Army Ordnance Detonation team from Fort Riley, Kan., to help investigate. The FBI also joined the investigation. Authorities arrested Jesse Spurgin, 26, of Hastings, on state charges of suspicion of unlawful possession of explosive materials and possession of explosive devices. In addition, U.S. Attorney Tom Monaghan said his office would check for possible violations of federal law. Losada refused to comment on Spurgin's background or on any possible motive. A search of Spurgin's apartment turned up ``lots of chemicals,'' Losada said, but he wouldn't elaborate. About 200 people living within a block of the apartment were evacuated Monday evening and power to the area was shut off. Residents of nearby homes were allowed to return shortly after 7:30 a.m. today, but the State Fire Marshals office today condemned the three-story apartment building for faulty wiring and fire alarms. The discovery was made after police in this town of 23,000 were called to the apartment complex to settle a disturbance. Witnesses said officers found a man who was waving a bottle he called a bomb and yelling that more bombs were scattered around the area. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kenneth Starr - The Clintons' Accomplice
-Caveat Lector- 7-4-1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted: Kenneth Starr - The Clintons' Accomplice Christopher Ruddy July 1, 1999 From: "Mike Ruppert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Bill Kingsbury" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 Subj: RE: Kenneth Starr - The Clintons' Accomplice Why doesn't somebody mention that Ken Starr and Bill Casey were good buddies? Or that Bill Casey and Bill Clinton were working hand in glove to smuggle tons of cocaine into Mena? Or that Ken Starr helped to negotiate and possibly even wrote a 1982 memorandum allowing CIA not to report drug trafficking by its agents? Or that Bill Clinton blackmailed the Republicans by holding CIA's own Volume II investigation over their heads? I have had all of this on my web site since January at www.copvcia.com . And I published an exclusive on it in my newsletter - From The Wilderness. This story is only a partial truth: great for what it says, to be honored and given credit for what it reveals, but to be improved upon with the full truth. There is journalistic glory enough for everyone - as I'm sure there will be enough bullets when the time comes. Mike Ruppert . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Study: Internet Feeds Delusions
-Caveat Lector- JULY 05, 12:23 EDT Study: Internet Feeds Delusions TAMPA, Fla. (AP) The Internet appears to have infiltrated yet another aspect of modern life the delusions of the actively psychotic, a new study shows. University of South Florida researchers who published their findings in last month's Southern Medical Journal, cited case studies as evidence that fears of the Internet are replacing Communists, the CIA and the controlling power of radio waves as a frequent delusion of new psychiatric patients. Every case of Internet delusion documented by the researchers involved people who actually had little experience with computers, said Dr. Glenn Catalano, the USF psychiatrist who authored the report. ``That's not really surprising,'' said Catalano, 37. ``Things can seem especially threatening when you don't know much about them.'' One of the cases cited by the USF doctors involved a 40-year-old man who shot himself in the face in an unsuccessful suicide attempt. He believed a friend had placed Internet bugs in his ears that could read his mind and control his thoughts. He also believed someone had placed a link between his Web page and his extremities. When certain keys were hit, he said, his extremities would jump. Catalano said he has seen several other cases of Internet-related delusions in the last 18 months and believed an increasing number of new patients will suffer from these fantasies. Given their frequency, he said, he was surprised to discover that his report apparently is the first to document the phenomenon. ``We're going to have to start asking different kinds of questions to determine the source of patients' paranoia,'' he said. ``You can't just ask if someone is following you.'' http://wire.ap.org/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Internet danger looming (fwd)]
-Caveat Lector- Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: Gary Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 Subj: L.A. Times column, 7/5/99 Monday, July 5, 1999 DIGITAL NATION Troubling Implications of Internet's Ubiquity By Gary Chapman Copyright 1999, The Los Angeles Times Early last month, institutions around the world were crippled for several days by a new computer virus called the ExploreZip Trojan horse. A Trojan horse, in computer jargon, is a nasty software program that hides inside a file a user is likely to want to see or open. etc. This, and the earlier post about the DIRT Trojan Horse, point up a couple of things about the Internet that we have to keep constantly reminding ourselves of. First, espionage is a two- (or more) way street. Sure the Chinese and everybody else are spying on us...but we're doing the same to them, and the odds are we're doing a much more sophisticated job of it. As I've said before, I strongly suspect that those supercomputers we sold recently to China are bugged...every keystroke, every transaction, every blip of electronic activity is recorded and transmitted to (probably) Fort Meade, where NSA analysts tear it apart for even a nanogram of information about what the Chinese are doing. There are no secrets today. Anyone who thinks there are is kidding himself. This brings me to the second point: this is precisely why strong encryption is vital for individual users of the Internet. A large enough key will be virtually impossible for even a network of Crays to break in less than, oh, ten thousand years. See Neal Stephenson's *Cryptonomicon* for an explanation of this and a description of just how large a key would be needed. If making effectively unbreakable encryption generally available means it gets into the hands of criminals and spies, well, tough shit...national intelligence services are virtually indistinguishable from organized crime today, anyway (see if you can find a CIA-backed guerrilla movement in the past fifty years that hasn't been involved in drug trafficking and you'll rapidly see what I mean). Of course, there is another approach, a little more risky but just as effective: don't use *any* encryption at all. Publish *everything*. This is what I call the Sears Roebuck Catalog approach--a variant of the old Purloined Letter: hide your secrets in the middle of the paperclips and toilet paper. The "bad guys" will spend so much time and energy trying to decide what's useful and what's not that they'll go bankrupt before they find anything that will hurt you. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Joshua Report #28, An Unsuspecting Nation
-- Michael the Outlawlady The Joshua Files http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ This is just the first few pages of #28 the complete report can be found at the Joshua Files website. Vol I THE JOSHUA REPORT No. #28 "...a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are...Beasts of Burden...and Steaks on the table by CHOICE and CONSENT..." - 'SILENT WEAPONS' PART 4b of 5 INVESTIGATING the DEATH of AMERICA: Was it MURDER? [AN UNSUSPECTING NATION: Step #8 ...on the PATH to DESTRUCTION] McCarthy. A guy we love to HATE, right? Why, sure: he was that rabid "witch- hunting" Senator who was found guilty of destroying so many 'innocent' lives [especially in the Film industry]. Or WAS he? According to the other side, McCarthy was the VICTIM! Well, who was right? Who WERE America's REAL enemies? Perhaps a close look at the FACTS will help us to decide what IS the truth. Of course, that story is but a small segment of the FABULOUS FIFTIES. Were they the BEST OF TIMES - or the WORST? Let's take a look and see what history can tell us: "All warfare is based on DECEPTION. Therefore, when capable, FEIGN INCAPACITY...Offer the enemy a BAIT to lure him...PRETEND INFERIORITY and ENCOURAGE HIS ARROGANCE...When he is united, DIVIDE HIM...To subdue the enemy WITHOUT FIGHTING is the supreme skill..." [1] These words come from a favorite guidebook of the Communists and the One-Worlders. Remember them as we move on with another chapter of this American expose, keeping in mind at all times, that warfare doesn't necessarily have to take place on a BATTLEFIELD - nor does it even need to be DECLARED! So MANY unanswered questions. What IS the truth? Is it merely RELATIVE? Perhaps this Report will give us some clues - but, be warned: it will be nothing like 'American History 101! OK. Seat-belts fastened? Engines warmed up? I know it's hard to believe, but up til now, we've just been taxiing, while slow - ly picking up speed. Now, it's time to pull back on the wheel. WATCH OUT! Expect plenty of TURBULENCE along the way! Everybody ready? OK: LIFT OFF!! "Every American knows about the AMERICAN COMMUNIST PARTY as an absolute servant of Soviet Russia. What he does NOT know is that there is ANOTHER batch of American Soviet agents who do not belong to the Communist Party - and who keep carefully AWAY from it...In 1943 and 1944 - and later - there was a small set in Washington known as the 'Silvermaster Group.' NATHAN GREGORY SILVERMASTER had been with the Agricultural Department and became head of the Near East Division of the Board of Economic Warfare. However, at some point, the FBI and the Intelligence Sections of both War and Navy reported that he was a dangerous COMMUNIST. But he had powerful friends. LAUCHLIN CURRIE, a Presidential assistant, and HARRY DEXTER WHITE, Assistant to the Secretary of the Treasury and later Assistant Secretary, vouched for him. He was permitted to resign quietly and return to his old job in Agriculture. "This group consisted of seven people - in addition to Silvermaster - all holding positions of high importance inside the government. One of them was HARRY DEXTER WHITE, a member of the Treasury - HENRY MORGENTHAU [Secretary]...being a person of very limited abilities and still less capacity for leadership. White was a timid man and had to be handled by his Communist contacts with infinite delicacy. His access to the most secret information was almost unlimited. He not only had at hand the SECRET SERVICE - which is a Treasury agency - but could get the most secret documents from OTHER government agencies. His secretary, SONIA GOLD, was a Communist - who was supplied to him by the Silvermasters. There were many other such personages in Washington. [2] "...What our educated Americans have not understood is that the RED REVOLUTIONIST does not promote his cause with DEBATE and DISCUSSION. He knows that ideas are planted in minds not by debates and discussions, but by certain PROPAGANDA techniques. For one thing, neither Socialism nor Communism is to be successfully sold under these labels. They must be given OTHER NAMES. Second, the Communist product must be sold in PIECES - not in one big package. Third, the sales job must be done by people WHO ARE NOT SUSPECT...people who DENY they are Communists or socialists - and who sell their product in our SCHOOLS, our CONSERVATIVE NEWSPAPERS...our MAGAZINES...our RADIOS and in our MOVING PICTURES...And I repeat, it is not to be sold in one package. You buy one little idea today, another little idea tomorrow. Someone else buys a third idea the next day, and so on, until presently you will be perhaps so far on the way to communism that TURNING BACK WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT THAN GOING FORWARD." [3] The train of events which led us into Korea, actually had their origin in the struggle in CHINA which began over 60 years ago: "Japan fought China by invading her with an army, first in 1931 and again in 1937. Russia fought China with an
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] The Broeder Bond 3(a)]
-Caveat Lector- "Taylor, John (JH)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- From The Super Afrikaners-Ivor Wilkins and Hans Strydom 1978 Only recommended for people interested in SA history or those in how secret power societies work. The broederbond was infiltrated and destroyed, but it shows the power that a well placed small group of people can have over an unsuspecting society. (remember that Smuts was also a member of a secret society-the round table- see Mr Quigleys works) snipped for bandwidth I read this book when it first came out 20 years ago. The Broederbond was created to fight the British rulers of South Africa--rulers whose control over the country was directed, as John Taylor states, by an equally secretive and even more obscure secret society. I'm not sure who is really in control of South Africa today, except that it almost certainly is NOT the ANC. With all due respect to Nelson Mandela, who really did survive hoorendous conditions when no one thought he would, the abandonment of the ANC's historic commitment to socialism, together with the flight of the South African power elite from the country, demonstrates clearly that the ANC did not "defeat" apartheid. The striking rise in the perceived crime rate and governmental corruption show that the country's new leaders are more interested in feathering their own nests than they are in effecting a true revolutionary redistribution of wealth and power to the masses. In short, South Africa has exchanged corrupt, venal, and brutal white masters for corrupt, venal, and brutal black masters. I fear that we have not seen the end of violent revolutionary conflict there... Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How Christianity Harms the Race
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Misfiring alien implant, eh? bzzt Damn implants... bzzt I just called my dog "Zog," and he responded! Then I called him "Gog" and he repsonded. It gets worse. I then tried calling him "Gog Magaog," and he repsonded to that, too! Now he's sitting here staring at me in a most peculiar fashion. I'm thinking of having him X-rayed for implants. ... See, there, I've outsmarted him. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Here, have a nice Thorazine cocktail. #8-) Prestidigitation ["fast fingers"], sleight-of-hand, is the art of focusing an audience's attention upon your seen hand, while your unseen hand does something subtle. Such misdirection, distraction, is the life's blood of demagogues, conspirators, Nazis, Xians, all those who want to bend us to their will. Wave one hand - "Look here, see what those nasty Jews / Wiccans / Socialists / Reptilioids are up to, kill them!!" - while the other hand does... what? Anti-Semitic claims are so patently bogus, the same as Xian denunciations of Wiccans, reactionary rants against perceived socialists, and all such conspiracy fodder, that we must look very carefully at what is being concealed. Examine sources of such denunciations, examine their desires, determine who/what is actually behind these fronts. Who's behind the Nazis, the Xian Identity and Xian Right movements, the equally fascist UFOlogists? Consider the mollusks. "Most mollusks are slow-moving shellfish with filter-feeding lifestyles, but cephalopods - octopus, squid, cuttlefish and nautilus - swim freely. Octopus and squids have given up their shells to become the most highly mobile inverte- brates, with the largest nervous systems. The brain has eight ganglia, arranged in a ring around the esophagus. Small octopus can learn to solve problems like how to open a container of food. Giant squid, as large as whales and with large nervous systems, are known to exist, but they live permanently at depths beyond present human observation." --Prof. Hans Moravec, MIND CHILDREN: The Future of Robot and Human Intelligence [Harvard, 1988] Giant squids are the most mobile creatures on our planet, with the largest brains and most complex nervous systems of any known animal. They dominate the biosphere. We humans know NOTHING of their domain, their culture, their intentions - and they intend to keep our ignorance total. That's why they focus their vast mental energies at the weak-minded among humans, fostering such self-loathing and fear that manifests as: anti-Semitism, anti- Socialism, anti-Pantheism, anti-Reptilioidism, misogyny, all such hateful doctrines. Whenever you hear a Nazi nattering, remember: that's just a squid-stooge. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fwd: Black Ops? Hmmm ......]
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Col. Jim Ammerman is the military chaplin that has been exposing what is going on in the military concerning the plans of the one world conspiracy. In a recent interview on short wave radio with Chris Gerner, Col. Ammerman reveals that some of his air force friends have sold their homes and their cars and have suddenly moved their families out of the 48 states. Ammerman is, ISTR, connected to the Foursquare Gospel Ministry, the Pentecostal group that A-Albionic and others have connected to MI6... There would seem to be more than one level of disinformation going on here. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fwd: Black Ops? Hmmm ......]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Col. Jim Ammerman is the military chaplin that has been exposing what is going on in the military concerning the plans of the one world conspiracy. In a recent interview on short wave radio with Chris Gerner, Col. Ammerman reveals that some of his air force friends have sold their homes and their cars and have suddenly moved their families out of the 48 states. Ammerman is, ISTR, connected to the Foursquare Gospel Ministry, the Pentecostal group that A-Albionic and others have connected to MI6... There would seem to be more than one level of disinformation going on here. Foursquare Gospel? Aimee Semple MacPherson's sect, that was a US Nazi front group in the 40s? Curiouser and curiouser... BTW, the best disinformation is ALWAYS multi-layered, and in fact consists of NOTHING but layers, with no core. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] You got mail from Wired News
-Caveat Lector- ric carter sent you this message and story from Wired News. W I R E D N E W S - - - - - - - - - - Publisher Must Lay Down the Law by Oscar S. Cisneros While the press and the tech world concentrated on the Microsoft antitrust trial, a quieter legal battle was being waged for access to society's source code: the full text of the law. The case involved West Publishing, a tremendously powerful legal-information vendor that claimed a copyright on law's written word as printed in its publications. For generations, the Minnesota-based company jealously guarded its role as the almost exclusive publisher of federal court opinions. /P On 1 June, West lost its claims when the US Supreme Court declined to hear its arguments that it owns the text of the law as compiled in its books. The development effectively put the law back in the public domain. Armed with the latest technology, companies can now bring court opinions to the Web without fear of copyright-infringement suits from West. The upshot: easier and cheaper access to the law. "Within five years, all this information will be available for free," said Carl Hartmann, an attorney who argued and won the case against West. West, for its part, disagrees with the ruling. "Nobody should be able to rip off our products," said West spokesman Patrick Sexton. "We took what's absolutely public and made it so that lawyers can find the information quickly." If the courts won't allow West de facto ownership of American case law, the company may seek the succor of database legislation to achieve its ends. For all practical purposes, West and its cozy competitor Lawyers preparing for trial must turn to the companies to cite previous court rulings to bolster their cases. Why? Because the page numbers of West's books have become the standard for legal citation and are required by almost all courts. West didn't always have a reputation as a bully. In fact, at the turn of the century, many courts made the company their official court reporter based on its sterling reputation. The courts needed someone to take care of their paperwork headaches. As more courts turned to West, the page numbers in its publications became signposts to specific cases. It proved a lucrative situation for West, whose court-sanctioned monopoly put the bulk of the printed law exclusively in its hands, Hartmann said. Its books even became a symbol of prestige at law firms: attorneys paneled their walls with the latest and most complete West collections. By the mid-1980s, technological advances made it possible for online databases to search the law. What's more, West's huge revenue chummed the waters for would-be competitors. One such competitor was Lexis-Nexis, a giant online publisher of academic and professional documents that tried to muscle into West's business. West sued, but the companies settled out of court and, according to critics, practically split the market between them. The pair came to be known as "the Wexis Cartel" by frustrated lawyers. With Lexis in the picture, Hartmann said legal researchers had two options: pay West a lot of money, or pay Lexis a lot of money. "Every man, woman, and child basically pays a database tax to West or Lexis," said Hartmann. Other companies tried to bring competition and lower prices to the legal-data market. But West threatened lawsuits, asserting it owned the copyright to the text of court opinions printed in its books, Hartmann said. West also claimed a copyright on its page-numbering system, the standard way to index the law. Without access to its page-numbering system, rivals couldn't compete, he added. Undeterred, HyperLaw, a publisher of inexpensive legal CD-ROMs, fought West for almost 10 years, eventually winning a judgment in 1998 that declared West's copyright claims invalid. West tried to appeal the ruling before the Supreme Court, but the court refused to hear the case. In light of that development, nimble competitors, such as HyperLaw, VersusLaw, won the right to add West's page-numbering system to their databases. "Overall, this will make access to legal information easier and cheaper for the average person," said Alan Sugarman, president and founder of HyperLaw. "If the lawyer has to pay for access to legal information, he's going to pass it on to his client." West doesn't simply republish rulings and opinions, said Sexton, the company's spokesman. It employs dozens of expert legal editors who add enhancements, such as case summaries and cross-references to other cases. The editors also research specific points of law -- insurance fraud, for example -- and collate sometimes hundreds of relevant decisions to help lawyers build their cases. These products can't be replicated with software or search engines, so "the financial impact of the ruling is insignificant" to West Publishing, Sexton said. "We obviously don't have a copyright over the words
[CTRL] You got mail from Wired News
-Caveat Lector- ric carter sent you this message and story from Wired News. W I R E D N E W S - - - - - - - - - - Bills Would Fence Off the Facts by Oscar S. Cisneros A coalition of big money data vendors is pushing database protection bills through the US Congress that could fundamentally disrupt the basic functions of the Internet and radically alter how information can be shared. There are two competing bills that would protect data compilers by prohibiting the duplication of their databases. Critics fear the more restrictive of the two, Collections of Information Antipiracy Act (HR354), would make criminals of companies that collect and aggregate data -- companies like Yahoo and Amazon.com. Also: Publisher Must Lay Down the Law "The beauty of the Internet is that for the first time you have this huge engine for finding and aggregating information -- and HR 354 sort of throws a wrench in the works," said Jonathan Band, an attorney specializing in intellectual property at Morrison and Foerster. The measure gives ownership of lists of facts -- like CD prices or best-seller lists -- to a company or an individual that collects them, Band said. Even collections of links to other sites could be claimed as intellectual property, barring their use by anybody without a licensing agreement. A service like Best Book Buys, which canvasses the Web for book-price comparisons, could face criminal charges for using an unwilling company's price quotes, Band said. Even Internet service providers and Web site hosts like GeoCities could face huge liabilities if their users pirate a database. Until now, the Constitution has prohibited the copyrighting of facts. Critics charge that the bill would let anyone who claims to have compiled the facts actually own them. "The basic notion is that you give the author a limited monopoly in his expression in exchange for his dedication of the facts and ideas contained in his work to the public," Band said. "This is the constitutional philosophy underlying intellectual property, and this bill tries to subvert that philosophy." But database owners complain that protection for compilations -- which can be enormously costly to assemble -- is thin, thanks to a 1991 US Supreme Court "We have no law in the United States that protects databases," said Dan Duncan, a spokesman for the Software Information Industry Association, a group of more than 1,400 software and content-data vendors. "We need a law to protect ourselves." Not all database vendors want Draconian protection, however. Powerful organizations like Bloomberg, Harvard University, and Lycos (the parent company of Wired News) advocate a balanced approach to legislation and want just a bit more protection than what the Constitution currently affords. "Databases are items of commerce in their own right and are critical tools for facilitating electronic commerce, research, and education endeavors," a group of 132 signatories recently said in a They support a bill like Consumer and Investor Access to Information Act of 1999 (HR 1858), which would prevent the outright piracy of entire databases but would still allow the reuse of the underlying facts, provided they are used in new, innovative ways. Experts are watching developments in Congress closely. The outcome could upset the careful balance struck by the Founding Fathers between the creator's need for an incentive and the ability of future minds to build on his ideas. - - - - - - - - - - W I R E D N E W S Wired News is a real-time news service offering news briefs and in-depth reporting on politics, business, culture, and technology. For the most up-to-date coverage on the digital world, go to ... http://www.wired.com/news/ You are receiving this email because a friend or acquaintance sent it to you. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, please contact the sender, and not Wired News. Copyright 1999 Wired Digital, Inc. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:]
[CTRL] ABCs of Foreign Policy
-Caveat Lector- From Boston Globe Picture: Boston Globe Online: Print it! THIS STORY HAS BEEN FORMATTED FOR EASY PRINTING - --- America's double-edged sword By Globe Staff, 07/05/99 Picturehe air campaign against the Serbs has been touted as a harbinger of things to come - waging war for human rights rather than to defend traditional national interests. Vaclav Havel of the Czech Republic said: ''This is probably the first war that has not been waged in the name of national interests but rather in the name of principles and values. Kosovo has no oil fields to be coveted [NATO] is fighting out of the concern for the fate of others.'' Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair said: ''This is a just war, based not on any territorial ambitions but on values.'' The two men spoke for Americans who believe that concern for national interest is unworthy. Many who decried the Gulf War, which involved both strategic interests and humanitarian concerns, hailed the Kosovo war for its moral purity. In the opposite corner is Henry Kissinger, the former secretary of state, who wrote in Newsweek: ''No issue is more in need of rethinking than the concept of humanitarian intervention put forward as the administration's contribution to a new approach to foreign policy. The air war in Kosovo is justified as establishing the principle that the international community - or at least NATO - will henceforth punish the transgressions of governments against their own people Moral principles are expressed in absolutes. But foreign policy must forever be concerned with reconciling ends and means. At every stage of the Kosovo tragedy, other mixes of diplomacy and force were available.'' The result, he writes, produced ''more refugees and casualties than any conceivable alternative'' and ''deserves to be questioned on both political and moral grounds.'' In truth, all wars are justified on moral and humanitarian grounds to gain public support, and when it comes to national interests, much depends on how those interests are defined. In his most recent book, ''Years of Renewal,'' Kissinger writes: ''The United States, to be true to itself, has a duty to stand for human rights and democracy.'' But if we treat the behavior of countries that do not live up to American standards ''as resolvable only by the overthrow of the offending government - or by its public surrender to American pressures - we will turn every problem into a life or death struggle, actually inhibiting progress on human rights.'' These words were written before the Kosovo crisis, but it is now clear that Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's missteps at Rambouillet made a bad situation infinitely worse. Harvard's Joseph Nye, writing in Foreign Affairs, put the issue into perspective by arguing that ''Americans have rarely accepted pure Realpolitik as a guiding principle, and human rights and the alleviation of human disasters have long been important aspects of our foreign policy. But foreign policy involves trying to accomplish varied objectives in a complex and recalcitrant world. This entails trade-offs. A human rights policy is not itself a foreign policy; it is an important part of a foreign policy We should generally avoid the use of force except in cases where our humanitarian interests are reinforced by the existence of other strong national interests.'' Former defense secretary William Perry and his deputy, Ashton Carter, divided national interests and security risks into three categories. The A list includes threats to national survival. On the B list are threats to American interests but not survival. Iraq and North Korea are included in this category. Civil wars in Kosovo or in Africa and Asia are C list problems - they do not present a threat to the economic or physical well-being of the American people but are nonetheless humanitarian tragedies. Nye notes that the C list has come to dominate foreign policy in the Clinton administration. He has a point. If the same determination shown in Kosovo were applied to getting weapons inspectors back into Iraq, the world would be a safer place than it is today. Nye suggests that one of the reasons that C problems get themselves on the A list is that there are no real threats to America's survival, as there were in the Cold War. In addition, human rights in the information age get media attention that can sway public opinion. This is undoubtedly true and has been for more than a century. In 1876, for example, the reporting of Januarius Aloysius MacGahan, an American writing for the London Daily News, is credited for stirring passions in the West and in Russia against Ottoman atrocities in the Balkans. By describing massacres and mass rapes, MacGahan influenced policy. Russia used his reports as an excuse to go to war against the
Re: [CTRL] William Bill Cooper John Lear
-Caveat Lector- Thanks Linda, He reckons that the aliens in the Roswell crash were shaved monkeys and it was all a big con. I've read the stuff on his website and he sure has a lot to say about everything. He has a lot of enemies. Will try to get some more info and post it. Nicky -Original Message- From: Linda Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, 7 July 1999 2:04 Subject: Re: [CTRL] William "Bill" Cooper John Lear -Caveat Lector- Bill Cooper was a member of this list over a year ago and antagonized virtually everyone with name-calling and refusal to answer questions about his organization, called Harvest Trust. He was giving out information about federal income taxes that I was afraid would get people into legal trouble, but he refused to take responsibility for the disinformation. I found him to be arrogant and abusive, and for that reason found no credibility in anything else he had to say. Linda - DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [11] Other Altars
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Other Altars - Roots and Realities of Cultic and Satanic Ritual Abuse and Multiple Personality Disorder Craig Lockwood©1993 CompCare Publishers 3850 Annapolis Lane, Suite 100 Minneapolis, MN 55441 612.559.4800/800.328.3330 ISBN 0-89638-363-6 255+pps out-of-print/one edition. - A very interesting and excellent book. Om K --[11]-- Chapter 11 Relatively Speaking Postmodernists, Primitives, And Religious Idealists "We see and hear and otherwise experience very largely as we do because the language habits of our community predispose certain choices of interpretation'' -Edward Sapir Postmodem academia has embraced the sorcerer's question, "Who has the power to make 'truth.' " If the ideal of achieving unfettered, omniscient magical power is at the heart of individuals and cults who practice ritualized abuses, no better form of philosophical justification than relativism has yet arisen. Relativism is based on an overarching postmodern philosophy that defines all truth as subjective, contingent, and relative. In the relativist view, ethics, morality, and knowledge have no objective worth because they are based on judgments, and thus are subjective conceptsrelative to who is observing and his or her particular cultural background. Relativism found a permanent place in academic thought and became an important part in the foundation of the prevailing liberal intellectual canon. When applied to history, anthropology, and sociology, relativism maintains that no culture is "better" than another. Philosophy, law, social organization, medicine, religion, technologythe bases of Western civilizationcan no longer be used to evaluate other cultures. They are simply ethnocentric judgments. Discarded in the intellectual community's rush to accept relativism, was the concept of rigorously applied scholarship, judgment and comparisonbasic hand-tools in the Western intellectual toolkit. Left-wing and Marxist academics as junior faculty members in the late 1960s and early 1970s enthusiastically embraced relativism and its associated postmodern philosophical stances. Over the years they gained tenure and rose to important academic positions. Stanley Fish in Doing What Comes Naturally wrote that since objective standards such as ethics no longer applied, simple political strength could be substituted where needed to achieve an academic end, resulting in a form of intellectual might-makes-right. It was the beginning of what would come to be called "political correctness."[1] Using this kind of postmodern reasoning, a Bolivian cocaine-smuggler's hiring of a Peruvian yatiri to conduct a human sacrifice to ensure the safe shipment of a ton of drugs was the spiritual equivalent of Pennsylvania Mennonites praying for God's blessing before building a neighbor's barn.[2] Constructing Social Constructionism According to Alfonso Martinez-Taboas, a psychotherapist practicing in Puerto Rico and a contributor to Dissociation, even the concept of multiple personality disorder is relative when looked at through the postmodern lens of social constructionism. Martinez-Taboas maintains that a "wide variety of personal experiences," emotions and attitudes are determined in the main by cultural systems of belief. Emotions aren't natural responses elicited by natural features inherent in a given situation, but "socio-culturally determined patterns of experience and expression," acquired and subsequently manifested socially. Constructionists have been paying attention recently to how diverse societies and cultures view the "self." Martinez-Taboas notes that the Japanese sense of self is based on a high degree of interdependence with a larger social unit. American society, on the other hand, doesn't value overt connectedness, but stresses individualism, independence, privacy, and detachment. Martinez-Taboas suggests that "the consequences of this type of conceptualization could be staggering. If the self is a social construction, then it follows logically that many different experiences of the self will be found throughout the world and its history." Individualistic societies such as in Canada and the United States could be expected, by constructionist standards, to have high incidences of MPD.[3] Community-based societies, in which children are respected and valued, will have little or no incidence of MPD.[4] What seems more probable is that preliterate, pretechnological societies offer neither the freedom from traditional authoritarian family/tribal control nor the ability to understand psychosis or dissociative behaviors caused by trauma as anything but spirit-possession. Also commonly under-reported by those who study such societies is the sexual use of children, which is extremely high in just these kinds of societies.[5] To justify their behaviors, Western pedophiles, who generally exhibit a high degree of cultural sophistication, have pointed out Greek and Roman societies as
[CTRL] [1] The Treason of the Senate
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Treason of the Senate David Graham Phillips academic reprints p.o. box 3003 Stanford, California Cosmopolitian Magazine Vol. XL - March, 1906 - No.5 - --bookflap-- This book consists of nine articles and an Editorial Foreword which appeared in Cosmopolitan between March and November 1906. The author was one of the group of so-called muckrakers, a contemporary of Lincoln Steffens, Ida M. Tarbell and Ray Stannard Baker. Phillips' principal medium, however, was fictional criticism of events and persons whom he considered worthy of public examination. His novels, among the best known of which were The Plum Tree, The Deluge and Susan Lenox, attained considerable popularity. Yet after publication of The Treason of the Senate, Phillips was all but excluded from the magazines, and his books were neglected by the critics. He died in 1911 at the age of forty-four, victim of gunshot wounds inflicted by a paranoid who believed Phillips had maligned American women. = The Treason of the Senate An Editorial Foreword A PLAIN, honest Californian lived on an island in the mouth of the San Joaquin river. He was a good citizen, a man of family, a hard-working rancher, not without ideas of his own, and excessively proud of the fact that he was a member of the Grand Army of the Republic. He was also proud of his Americanismso proud, in fact, that when he read in the papers of the corrupt doings of legislators who betrayed their country by assisting the ignoble money power in its predatory plans, he would wince and shake his head and set his teeth. These things preyed upon the mind of the islander. He could hardly talk of anything else. One day, only a few years ago, the telegraph flashed the news across the continent that a notoriously corrupt politiciana tool of the trusts-had bought a seat in the United States Senate. Our simple-minded ranchman immediately arose in his wrath, went and took pen and paper and laboriously wrote a declaration of independence in which he withdrew himself, his family and his island from the jurisdiction and the protection of the United States. He sent a copy of his declaration to Congress. Of course, the crude document created a smile at Washington. No reply was ever made to it. The sum total of practical result was that the Grand Army post to which our righteous islander belonged gravely adopted a set of resolutions chiding and deriding him. The sum total? Well, hardly the sum total, for, as the sturdy rancher still persisted in the idea that his island was no longer under the control of the United States, although he still paid tribute in the form of taxes, the notion went around among his neighbors, up and down the river-men who had always respected him as a good citizenthat in some way his act really did reflect upon the government, or at least, upon the corrupt element in it. So the declaration of one man's independence made an impression. Queer and quixotical as it was, it was still an "object lesson." Now, of course, we cannot all secede from the Union because of the corruption of our national Senate. It would be obviously visionary and foolish for us to do so on that or on any other account. Besides, there are not islands enough to go around. Our part as citizens of the republic is plain enough. We must stand our ground. We must fight the good fight. Heartsick and depressed as we may be at times because of the spread of graft in high places and its frightfully contaminating influence, we must still hold up our heads. We must never lose an opportunity to show that as private citizens we are opposed to public plunderers. We should interest ourselves in every scrap of information as to official treason that comes our way. We must be as patient in the study of corruption as we are impatient of its creatures and their punishment. For example, it should be the duty of every citizen of this republicevery mail, woman, schoolboy and schoolgirlevery person who can understand facts as presented in printto read "The Treason of the Senate" by David Graham Phillips, a series of tremendously important ariticles[sic] to be commenced in the March number of the COSMOPOLITAN. A searching and unsparing spot-light, directed by the masterly hand of Mr. Phillips, will be turned upon each of the iniquitous figures that walk the Senate stage at the national Capitol. This convincing story of revelation, to be told in several chapters, and to run well through the magazine year, has been called "The Treason of the Senate" for the reason that that is a fit and logical title for this terrible arraignment of those who, sitting in the seats of the mighty at Washington, have betrayed the public to that cruel and vicious Spirit of Mammon which has come to dominate the nation. The truth told in the courts and in public print about the senators now under indictment, as well as the facts collected by Mr. Phillips against many of their corrupt colleagues,
[CTRL] [8] The Ohio Gang
-Caveat Lector- An excerpt from: The Ohio Gang Charles L. Mee, Jr.©1981 M. Evans and Company, Inc. 216 East 49th Street New York, New York 10017 ISBN 0-87131-340-5 218 pps out-of-print/one edition --[1]-- XXII. Corruption "MY DEAR JOHN," Charles Hayden, of Hayden, Stone Company of Boston, wrote to Secretary of War John Weeks: Ordinarily I would hate to bring these matters to your personal attention, but the way the general situation has been developing in the last six months 'it seems to me that everything that can be done by co-operation between bankers and the Government to inspire confidence in a legitimate way should be done, and that is why I feel a perfectly clear conscience in giving you this little additional bother. The bother of which Hayden spoke was a claim that the government had against the Wright-Martin Aircraft Company, of which Hayden happened to be a director, for receiving $5,267,467.75 more than it should have during the war in payment for Hispano-Suiza airplane motors. Weeks, the former Bostonian, replied: My Dear Hayden: In view of the steps that have already been taken, I am convinced that the proper procedure is for the company to come in before the Air Service section and make their showing. Whatever decision may be reached by the Air Service section you should understand is not conclusive. Not only is the approval of a higher officer required, but even if that approval is obtained, there is a further appeal to myself. pps. 135-136 = XXIII. Bribery and Corruption ON THE FOURTH of July 1921, Ned McLean gave a party at his house on I Street for President and Mrs. Harding, Secretary of State Hughes, Daugherty, several ambassadors, and a crowd of senators and representatives. The I Street house was a grand pile, occupying half a block, with a ballroom that could accommodate several dining tables, each a hundred feet long, and with a living room that, at Christmastime, had ample space for a three-story-high Christmas tree. Barberini tapestries decorated the walls of the ballroom, and Evalyn Walsh McLean liked to have masses of flowers about the house. The high point of the party was the screening of a movie that had been rushed to Washington by one of Ned's functionaries, Jap Mumaa movie of the prize fight that had been held two days before at Boyle's Thirty Acres in New Jersey between Jack Dempsey, then the heavyweight champion of the world, and the French contender Georges Carpentier. Dempsey won by a knockout, and the guests were wonderfully enthusiastic about the film. In the chitchat that followed, someone mentioned that it was too bad that people all over the United States could not see the movie. In fact, it had been illegal for McLean to have the film. Almost a dozen years before, when the black fighter Jack Johnson beat the white fighter Jim Jeffries, a law was passed to prohibit the transportation of fight films across state linesto prevent the "humiliating spectacle of a white man beaten by a negro" from getting around. Daugherty, always quick to spot a loophole, remarked that the law only prohibited the transportation of films; it did not prohibit their exhibition once they had gotten across the state lines. He told Jap Muma that Muma should get hold of an old friend of Daugherty's from Ohio, Alfred Urion, "one of the greatest little men you ever met in your life." Muma and Urion ought to be able to work something out, Daugherty thought, and "if you put this across," he said to Muma, "you ought to get a big cutnot less than fifty per cent." The idea Urion and Muma worked out was simple. Urion came up with the names of some lawyer friends in the states where the film could be shown for a good profit. These men would take the rap for bringing the film across state lines. It would be fixed that each of these men would then be fined the lowest possible amount, and then the movies could be shown. They would be shown first, for free, to an American Legion audience, or some war veterans' organization. Then, it would be arranged to have some newspaper reporters alerted so that they could raise a stink in their papers against the ban on the film. Then the film would be released. In New York, it was arranged to show the film first at a hospital for disabled soldiers on Staten Island. (William Orr was able to lend a hand for the arrangements in New York, for which he took a 20 percent cut.) The United States attorney in New York then prosecuted the makers of the film and fined them $1,000 each. Newspapers printed editorials in favor of showing the movie (Orr's old contacts with newsmen helped in this). Then the movie was released. It turned a quick profit in New York of $75,000, and went from there to twenty-one states, making a profit, altogether, of about a million dollars. pps.138-140 = XXIV. Jess Smith Returns to Washington Court House ONCE EVERY TWO or three weeks, Jess Smith would board the train with his two heavy black leather suitcases
[CTRL] [17] Loud and Clear
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Loud and Clear Lake Headly and William Hoffman©1990 Henry Holt and Company 115 W. 18th St. New York, NY 10011 ISBN 0-8050-1138-2 272 pps out-of-print/one edition --[17]-- 17 New Mexico Dynamite "I've started to eat," Jim Robison told me when I visited him one day in early June. "Good. I'm glad you've given up that starvation routine. I think you and Max are going to get out of here." I was indeed pleased, and told. Jim the unvarnished truth. The JoDon, Nation, and Hawkins information, piled atop so much else, plus many official documents disputing the prosecution's version (such as "loud and clear"), all combined to form a veritable Everest of evidence against which I didn't think the state's case could stand. "I agree our chances look better," Robison said. "The Hawkins stuff is powerful. It was good of Ralph to help, and I don't think it's hopeless anymore." This very strong man acted embarrassed and almost sheepish, like an alcoholic who stays off the sauce for several months, then relapses. Falling off the starvation wagon, however, marked definite progress. "How long did you go?" I asked. "I don't know. Maybe a hundred days." I counted it in my head. It was a hundred and five. Jim, pale, shaky, and weak, had lost at least eighty pounds. Wisely, he had resumed his food intake cautiously: orange juice, oatmeal, only soft foods. Although Jim's body bore the scars of his slow journey into the valley of death, his eyes twinkled with the rebirth of faith, a Lazarus rising from the grave. "I just don't see," I said, not wanting to darken his mood, "how the press and prosecution can ignore Hawkins's information." "Maybe so. But one thing will never change. Lake, as I've told you over and over, these people adhere to only one principle: Cover Your Ass. They'll never admit they did a lousy job, that they flat-out did wrong. just yesterday, one of the hacks came around and said, 'Why are you going through this? Give 'em what they want, and they'll bring a limousine around to take you away from here.' " "They still want you to finger Marley?" "Sure. Marley. That's all it's ever been." I thought about Kemper Marley on my drive back to Phoenix. Clearly there had to be a mastermind, a money man, behind the scenes, and Marley had been earmarked for the role. Why? And why did the state and the press continue to cling desperately to the original discredited version of the murder, even though the case against Marley, resting on Adamson's word alone, had disintegrated when the alleged motive proved to be no motive, when a Bolles article or evidence of a Bolles investigation did not cost him a post on the racing commission? My own best hunch was that both the Phoenix police and the Phoenix newspapers, part and parcel of the Establishment's soul, had tried to put it on Marley because he was a loner, because he was not a member of the Establishment. Yet somebody had called for the reporter's murder, and clearly the Establishment was wallowing in guiltprobably over the murder and surely over the coverupand hoping that by ignoring bad news like the purging of File #851 the nightmare would somehow go away. The papers saw the Bolles case as a downtown High Noon bombing bad for the image of Phoenix. Thus-keep it closed. If it reopened in full swing now, it would be worse than the first time around. Too bad. I wasn't going away, and neither were Devereux, Marshall, Naomi, Terri Lee, nor Playboy and The New York Times. It was getting to be like Watergate: there was always more. And as with Watergate, the more that came out, the more the established powers tried to stonewall. Terri Lee and I had been working together virtually every free hour she had (she was attending college and holding down the bartender job) and we had grown closer and closer. I couldn't believe my luck: a young, beautiful woman who didn't seem a whit perplexed by what had turned into a serious romance with a guy pushing fifty. Also, it was a pain to separate each night and then regroup early the next morning to plot the day's activities. But my concern went much deeper than saving time and gas. I'd fallen in love and wanted to be with her all the time, but hesitated to suggest a different arrangement. Don't be an old fool, I told myself, cursing our age difference. It wouldn't be fair to her. So, when I returned from visiting Robison, I wasn't prepared for what Terri Lee said over brunch. "I found a place," she said, "that we can rent on Camelback. A one-bedroom, unfurnished apartment. I can fix it up really nice, and there's lots of light for my plants." We can rent on Camelback? "I'll take care of all the details. Of course, I want you to look it over first, see if you like it." The apartment was in a one-story, adobe brick complex, directly across the street from the high school Terri had attended. "Like it?" she asked. "Love it." I really did, though I would have eagerly settled into the
[CTRL] What is War?
-Caveat Lector- From www.harrybrowne2000.net/ What is war? by Harry Browne The politicians' stirring phrases are meant to keep our eyes averted from the reality of war -- to make us imagine heroic young men marching in parades, winning glorious battles, and bringing peace and democracy to the world. But war is something quite different from that. It is your children or your grandchildren dying before they're even fully adults, or being maimed or mentally scarred for life. It is your brothers and sisters being taught to kill other people -- and to hate people who are just like themselves and who don't want to kill anyone either. It is your children seeing their buddies' limbs blown off their bodies. It is hundreds of thousands of human beings dying years before their time. It is millions of people separated forever from the ones they loved. It is the destruction of homes for which people worked for decades. It is the end of careers that meant as much to others as your career means to you. It is the imposition of heavy taxes on you and on other Americans and on people in other countries -- taxes that remain long after the war is over. It is the suppression of free speech and the jailing of people who criticize the government. It is the imposition of slavery by forcing young men to serve in the military. It is goading the public to hate foreign people and races -- whether Arabs or Japanese or Cubans. It is numbing our sensibilities to cruelties inflicted on foreigners. It is cheering at the news of foreign pilots killed in their planes, of young men blown to bits while trapped inside tanks, of sailors drowned at sea. Other tragedies inevitably trail in the wake of war. Politicians lie even more than usual. Secrecy and cover-ups become the rule rather than the exception. The press become even less reliable. War is genocide, torture, cruelty, propaganda, dishonesty, and slavery. War is the worst obscenity government can inflict upon its subjects. It makes every other political crime -- corruption, bribery, favoritism, vote-buying, graft, dishonesty -- seem petty. Government's Role If government has a role to play in foreign affairs, it isn't to win wars, to assure that the right people run foreign countries, to protect innocent foreigners from guilty aggressors, or to make the world safe for democracy -- or even a safer place at all. If government has a role, it can be only to keep us out of wars -- to make sure no one will ever attack us, to make certain you can live your life in peace, to assure you the freedom to ignore who is right and who is wrong in foreign conflicts. The only reason for military power is to discourage attackers, and -- if they come anyway -- to repel them at our borders. Such things as stationing troops in far-off lands, meddling in foreign disputes, and sending our children to foreign countries as "peacekeepers" only encourage war. To make America safer and to assure that we stay at peace, we don't need to put more weapons in the hands of government employees, or to reform military purchasing methods, or to make more treaties with other governments, or to increase the military budget. In fact, we need just the opposite of these things. We need to make it as hard as possible for politicians to involve us in war. And we need to create a defense system that relies as little as possible on the normal workings of government. # # # [From Why Government Doesn't Work, pages 144-145. Copies available for purchase online at http://www.liamworks.com/wgdw/] If there isn't a Momentum 2000 menu of the left side of this page, click here to go to Harry Browne's home page. AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." --- Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement
Re: [CTRL] William Bill Cooper John Lear
-Caveat Lector- Hi ...does anyone any more about this? http://home.worldonline.nl/~karel/ufo/people/cooper-lear/index.html Not in defense of Cooper or Lear, this researcher's(Karel) interests seem more focused on Cybersex:-) http://home-1.worldonline.nl/~karel/sex.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: op-ed: Do Rights Come from the Constitution?[absolute MUST read]
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: FFF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 2:19 PM To: Peter Sroufe Subject: op-ed: Do Rights Come from the Constitution? by Jacob G. Hornberger Do Rights Come from the Constitution? by Jacob G. Hornberger It is commonly believed that the rights of the American people come from the Constitution. Nothing could be further from the truth. Throughout history, the standard belief was that people were unconditionally subject to the commands of their government. If the king ordered a person to leave his family to fight in a war thousands of miles away, that person would have to obey. The king could control and regulate both lives and property because he was sovereign and supreme, and the citizens, as subjects, were subordinate and inferior. When the king commanded, people obeyed. Gradually, people began questioning the notion of the king's having unrestricted control over their lives and fortunes. For example, in 1215, with Magna Carta, the king was forced to admit that his powers over the citizenry were limited. It was in 1776, however, with the publication of the Declaration of Independence, that the historical concept of sovereignty got turned upside down. Government wasn't sovereign and supreme, Jefferson declared to the world. Individuals are. And government officials are subordinate and inferior to the citizenry. The Declaration emphasized that men have been endowed with certain fundamental and inherent rights that preexist government. In other words, man's rights don't come from the king or from any other government official. Rights such as life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness exist independently of government, not because of government. It also emphasized that the reason people call government into existence is to protect the exercise of these rights. That is, in the absence of government, antisocial people such as murderers, rapists, and thieves would make life quite miserable for everyone else. Therefore, government is needed to arrest, prosecute, and punish these types of people. What happens when government transgresses its rightful duty of protection and becomes more destructive than what would be the case in the absence of government? The Declaration tells us that it is the right of the people to alter or abolish that government and to implement a new government that is designed to protect, not destroy, the exercise of man's natural or God-given rights. The quandary, of course, that our Founders faced was whether it was possible to bring a government into existence that would remain limited to an inferior and subordinate role rather than attempt to assume the more traditional sovereign and supreme role. In 1787, the Founders attempted to solve the problem by writing a Constitution that called the federal government into existence. The result was historically significant: The Constitution made it clear that this government, unlike others in history, would not be one of unlimited powers. Instead, by the express terms of the Constitution itself, the federal government would be one of limited powers--limited to those enumerated in Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution. Thus the correct question is not "What rights does the Constitution give to the American people?" but rather "What powers does the Constitution grant to the government?" If a certain power is not enumerated, the government is not permitted to exercise it. Not trusting government officials, however--even democratically elected ones--the American people ensured the passage of the first 10 amendments to the Constitution. These should more appropriately have been called the "Bill of Prohibitions" than the Bill of Rights. Why? Because a careful examination reveals that they are express restrictions on government powers rather than a grant of rights to the citizenry. Some people argued that a Bill of Prohibitions was unnecessary because government's powers were already limited to those enumerated in the Constitution itself. Since the government has not been given the power to regulate speech, for example, there was no reason to have an express prohibition against the regulation of speech. Fearful, however, of the propensity of government to move toward dominance and control, the people felt safer with express restrictions on the power to interfere with rights that they believed were of the utmost importance. Playing it safe, they included the Ninth Amendment: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." So the next time someone refers to your "constitutional rights," remind him that people's rights don't come from the Constitution. And if you really want to stimulate thinking, ask him whether he believes that today the federal government is destructive of
[CTRL] Bankrupt Republicans
-Caveat Lector- From Dissent http://www.igc.org/dissent/current/current.html Picture - --- DISSENT / SUMMER 1999/ VOLUME 46, NUMBER 3 - --- Bankruptcy and Zeal The Republican Dialectic Sean Wilentz Now that the dust has started to settle, it's time to assess why the congressional Republicans, in the face of overwhelmingly hostile public opinion, pursue the impeachment of President Clinton to the bitter end. Overwrought idealism was partly responsible, as was the intimidation of more moderate members by the hard-line party leadership, as were the whims of fortune. But one of the dirty secrets of impeachment may be that the Republicans had nothing better to do. By setting their sights on removing an already besmirched Bill Clinton, Republicans unwittingly exposed their party's intellectual bankruptcy, especially at the national level. And by pursuing impeachment as zealously as they did, they compounded that bankruptcy by alienating millions of voters. The turnabout is astonishing. For nearly two decades, Republicans and their allied think tanks and policy packaging firms had seemingly swept aside most traces of oppositional thinking. Dependable liberal battle cries-for state-stimulated full employment, advancing racial integration, and more-grew fainter by the year. The very idea of activist government, outside the realm of foreign affairs, became fatal to the touch. Republican panaceas, from the supply-side Laffer curve to the "just-say-no" anti-drug policy, did not exactly work their magic, but neither did their failure seem to discredit the Republicans' working assumptions, fiercely libertarian with respect to economic policy and fiercely moralistic with respect to social policy. "We've largely won the battle of ideas," Kate O'Beirne, formerly of the Heritage Foundation, recently boasted. "We are in the implementation stage right now." Indeed, some commentators claim that that Republican thinking infected the Democrats as well, especially inside the Clinton White House-though this reasoning makes it difficult to understand why so many Republicans, and virtually all hard-line conservatives, hate Clinton so deeply. Yet today, poll after poll shows that the public is fed up with the right-wing moralizers, has no particular interest in tax cuts, and fears that the Republicans will undermine popular universal entitlements. The Republicans' intellectual crisis cannot be blamed on complacency. Indeed, faith in what Irving Kristol once referred to as the inverted Gramscianism of the modern GOP-that is, control the prevailing view of reality and you control politics-has only deepened during the Clinton years. According to a recent report by the left-liberal National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy (NCRP), the nation's twenty leading conservative policy institutions have more than doubled their combined budgets since 1992, spending $158 million in 1996 alone-$20 million more than the Republican Party raised and spent during that election year in soft-money contributions. The five best-known institutions on the NCRP's list (the Heritage Foundation, Hoover Institution, Center for Strategic and International Studies, American Enterprise Institute, and Free Congress Research and Education Foundation) accounted for about half of the total in 1996; the rest was lavished on smaller, tightly focused groups, each dedicated to advancing core elements of the conservative agenda. By attracting increased contributions from the corporate sector, and by tightening their connections with political operatives (in Washington and the states) as well as with grassroots activists, this conglomeration of organizations has turned policy advocacy on the right into something like a permanent, well-coordinated, national political campaign. Yet in the immediate aftermath of the impeachment struggle, it looked as if the GOP's research-and-promotion efforts had succumbed to the law of diminishing returns. The prospects were especially grim for the party's social-conservative wing. Since 1978, when the activist Paul Weyrich and his allies invented the Moral Majority, Republicans had built an invaluable new base among politicized conservative evangelicals. Even when public displeasure at the GOP televangelists mounted late in the Reagan years, and even after the Moral Majority disbanded, a more secular version of moral majoritarianism gained vast exposure and considerable momentum, thanks to publicists like William Bennett and operations like the Free Congress Foundation. In this version, America's chief problems were moral, not economic or political; they stemmed from the cultural relativism and permissiveness imposed by a relatively small but powerful 1960s left; and they could be
[CTRL] 20,000 lodge protests as gold reserve
-Caveat Lector- Telegraph Online http://www.telegraph.co.uk http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=001785122525867rtmo=wsQtQf5batmo=t ttdpg=/et/99/7/6/ngold06.html 20,000 lodge protests as gold reserve sale begins By Anne Hyland HM Government gold auction [28 Jun '99] - Bank of England THE Government has received more than 20,000 protests against its auction of gold reserves today amid claims that the decision will cause unemployment in South Africa. The Bank of England is to auction 25 tonnes of gold today as part of its plan to reduce Britain's reserves from 715 tonnes to 300 tonnes over the next few years. The World Gold Council yesterday said more than 20,000 callers had protested against the sale. Some council mining members also suggested the decision to sell the reserves, which led to the price of gold falling by almost $30 (£20) an ounce, could force the closure of mines in South Africa. The price of gold, which fell from $289.25 before the decision to auction the reserves, closed at $263.25 yesterday. The Government is also facing a legal challenge in the High Court from a jeweller in Southampton, Kim Rose, who is seeking leave for a hearing to stop further gold reserve sales and an explanation from the Government for its actions. The hearing is expected to go before the High Court today. Mr Rose said the Government was not aware of the action until yesterday when it was presented with documents from his lawyers. He said: "I didn't think of doing it until Friday. I thought some bigger government body would intervene but nobody has done anything about it." A Treasury spokesman said: 'The Government has adequately explained its reasons for the sale, which is to re-balance the Bank of England's portfolio so a great proportion of reserves are held in currency." Algy Cluff, chief executive of Cluff Mining, said the Government's actions had put the industry under pressure, as had the International Monetary Fund's plans to sell up to $2 billion of its gold reserves to relieve debt in poor countries. "We [the mining companies] are among the few organisations actively helping the Third World," said Mr Cluff, who has operations in South Africa, Zimbabwe and Burkina Faso. "They're talking about kicking away the important prop that's holding up the mining sector and that's the gold price," he added. The Bank of England declined to comment. Michel Camdessus, managing director of the IMF, said that the sales would be made at the right time and at a "reasonable price" so as not to further depress the gold price. At least five gold mines in South Africa have proposed sacking 8,000 miners because of lower gold prices. __ ¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» ¯¯ Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground. http://www.davidicke.com __ ¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» ¯¯ Check out his website books at: http://www.davidicke.com "The Biggest Secret" "...And the Truth Shall Set you Free" Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BUSH DENIES FAVOURS
-Caveat Lector- Daily Telegraph Online http://www.telegraph.co.uk: Tuesday 6 July 1999 BUSH DENIES FAVOURS Ben Fenton, Washington http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=001785122525867rtmo=wsQtQf5batmo=t ttdpg=/et/99/7/6/wbus06.html GEORGE W BUSH, the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, was forced to defend himself yesterday from accusations that he was given special treatment to avoid fighting in Vietnam. The allegations, in one of America's most respected newspapers, show that media scrutiny of the early favourite in the race for the White House will be every bit as close as that devoted to Bill Clinton in 1992. The Los Angeles Times said Mr Bush had been given preferential treatment when he applied to join the Texas Air National Guard, a reserve unit, in 1968 while he was still a student at Yale University. Young American men desperate to avoid Vietnam were attracted to the national guard units because they counted as military service but were very unlikely to be sent to South-East Asia. This was especially true of the air national guard, which tended to use outdated aircraft and took responsibility for defence of their home states. The newspaper said Mr Bush, then 21, had far fewer qualifications to become an officer and pilot cadet in the guard than others. It pointed out that his father, who became president in 1988, was in 1968 a Congressman representing Houston, Texas. A spokesman for the Bush campaign said the newspaper had erred because it was looking at the qualifications needed to become an officer in the Army National Guard. The LA Times also said George W Bush, who is now the governor of Texas, had been selected for a fast-track recruitment process that won him a commission immediately. As the paper put it: "Doors were opened and good fortune flowed to him at opportune times". He was the only reservist among about 70 trainee officers at the year-long pilot school in Georgia to fly F-102 fighters. Mr Bush, campaigning in New Hampshire, denied any suggestion of favouritism, saying he had joined the guard because he "wanted to fly fighters". Brig Gen Buck Staudt, then commander of the guard, is quoted as saying: "There was no influence on his behalf. Neither his daddy nor anybody else got him into the guard." __ ¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» ¯¯ Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground. http://www.davidicke.com __ ¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» ¯¯ Check out his website books at: http://www.davidicke.com "The Biggest Secret" "...And the Truth Shall Set you Free" Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] is USA Trillions in debt ????
-Caveat Lector- Someone at our Transformation Group said that the US was trillions in debt and that Clinton has promised to pay it back in 15 years is this true ?? -- I thought that the American Financial system was incredibly good !! Whats the truth then ?? Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group EdinburghScotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Flintstone redefines America's pre-history
-Caveat Lector- ok, here's a theory for you. supposing controlling elite C wanted to remain in control of the moral and ethical right to rule america - All elite C are race A But when it gets right down to it, in the 21st century, A are deluged by the overwhelming presence of races, I,N,H etc, but that History shows it most likely that predominately, I,N,H were the oldest on the continent. Race A, however can't live with that, and not being too bright, they invent a phoney archaeological dig with no tangible skeletons and make the claim that 'aryan americansis flintstonius spp' went round killing 50 foot mammoths and 40 mph herd animals with a stone because they're tough guys !!! Do you people in the states swallow that ?? I'm worried here - help ! Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh Scotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [TheEagle-L] Fwd: Amphibeous humanoids spawned the Merovingians?
-Caveat Lector- Clinton is supposed to be descended from the French Kings. I don't know enough about this to know if its right but I think prob some reptoid got into the royalty (I hope the Irish escaped the curse!) at some time. Nicky -Original Message- From: Alan DeWalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, 7 July 1999 10:25 Subject: [TheEagle-L] Fwd: Amphibeous humanoids spawned the Merovingians? I recieved the following info, and thought I would pass it along... I leave the readers to decide what to do with this information, whether to accept or reject it... The Merovingians are genetically connected to the Amphibious Reptilians. The Merovingian Kings of the Franks Meroveus: ..he was descended from Chlodio". Fredegar III, 9 implies he was the son of Chlodio's wife and the "Quinotaur" (a Sea Monster/Amphibious Reptilian). On page #228 of "HALL OF THE GODS" by Nigel Appleby (1998) : "The Merovingian line takes its name from a unique and elusive ancestor known as Merovee, Merovech or Meroveus. He was apparently a semi-supernatureal figure ; even his name bears witness to his miraculous origin and character[It means "SEA"] ".his mother went swimming in the ocean where she was seduced or raped by acreature known as a Quinotaur, apparently some form of Neptune. This beast manged to impregnate the lady.so when Merovee was born, there flowed in his veins a commingling of two different bloodsthe blood of a mysterious aquatic creature." Note : this "aquatic creature" was said to be connected to the star "SIRIUS". The symbolism of Water is also linked to King Arthur(the Fisher King) and Jesus (Matthew 13: 47-48). The Mysteries of Rennes-le-Chateau and the Prieure du Sion. http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/seeker1/fortpages/rennes-sion.html Excerpts : * "Van Buren feels that the "Quinotaur" (literally, "five-horn") which mated with King Merovech's mother in the sea, giving him his 'double' parentage, may have been an extraterrestrial." * "Perhaps the Merovingians' most unusual chronicler is Gerard de Sede, who claims the "Fabulous Race" descends from extraterrestrials from Sirius (!), and who points out that at their stronghold in Stenay (also known as Satanicum), frogs frequently fall from the sky[9]. (De Sede clearly keeps up on his Fortean literature.) Up until recently, little was known about these long-haired kings, as they inhabited that historical epoch derided as the "Dark Ages." The founder of the royal line, Merovech, was said to be of two fathers - his mother, already pregnant by King Chlodio, was seduced while swimming in the ocean by a 'Quinotaur,' and Merovech was formed somehow by the commingling of Frankish blood and that of the mysterious aquatic creature. Like the Nazoreans of old, the Merovingian monarchs never cut their hair, and bore a distinctive birthmark - said to be a red cross over the shoulder blades. Their robes were fringed with tassels which were said to carry magical curative powers. They were known as occult adepts, and in one Merovingian tomb was found such items as a golden bull's head, a crystal ball, and several golden miniature bees. And strangely, many skulls of these monarchs appear to have been ritually incised - i.e. trephanned. The Sicambrians, ancestors of the Franks, were known as the "people of the Bear" for their worship of the bear-goddess Arduina. The word Arcadia comes from Arkas, patron god of that area of Greece, the son of the nymph Callisto, sister of the huntress Artemis. Callisto's constellation is also known to many as Ursa Major, the Great Bear. The name "Arthur" comes from the Celtic ARTH , related to "Ursus" (as in "Prince"), namely, "bear." *** So"Quinotaur" is the legendary creature who climbed out of the sea to found the Merovingian dynasty back in the 5th century. I'm certainly surprised that many of the anti-Reptilian folks are the same ones that support the Merovingian/Chirst connection rap. Amphibious Reptilians are manipulating human culture. And they USE those who claim to hate them, to gain control of Society. The "Quinotaur" is an Amphibious Reptilian of the group also known as OANNES (ENKI)[EA]. They are the ATL (means WATER).QuetzalcoATL = Osiris. And the "Priest Kings" are returning again August 1999 - 2012. Secrets about this are connected to the OMPHALOS SITES (Oracle Centres) and the Legends of ARGO/Jason/ARGOnauts. [And the Egyptian Magurru Boat (Magan).] Ursa Major means great bear. Scholars believe that the Greeks may have mistaken the Persian word Dob (Hebrew Dowb), which means Bear, for Dubeh, (the name of the brightest star), which means A Herd, A Flock. The Herd, or Flock is the meaning of this constellation. Other stars bear this out: Merak, Flock in Hebrew, or Purchased in Arabic; Phad, Guarded or
[CTRL] THE RUSSIANS ARE AT PLAY]
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Alan DeWalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, 7 July 1999 10:25 Subject: [TheEagle-L] Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: THE RUSSIANS ARE AT PLAY] --- Dr Byron Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 08:33:18 -0600 From: Dr Byron Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alan DeWalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Charmaine Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: THE RUSSIANS ARE AT PLAY] ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 08:56:28 EDT Subject: Fwd: THE RUSSIANS ARE AT PLAY To: undisclosed-recipients:; In a message dated 07/02/1999 10:47:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ladies gentlemen: The recent Russian military exercise that involved 50,000 troops from five military districts, massive naval maneuvers and including a mock nuclear air attack on the United States by four Russian bombers, was the first such show of military might by the Russians in the past 11 years. Looks like the bear is coming out of it's hibernation, fully rested and nicely funded by our president and those nice money managers at the IMF. Just as the bombing runs began over Kosovo, I ran into an acquaintance who is a writer for the Associated Press. He thought my concerns over Russia's ability to react effectively, even militarily in the Kosovo crisis were completely overstated and even laughable. He was convinced the Russian military was in tatters. When I showed him hard documentation of the Russian military hardware production since 1989, including the world's most sophisticated SAM air defense system, nuclear submarines and a jet fighter that can match anything in our arsenal, his confident smile waned. I just showed him confirmed reports of a coordinated and well-executed military exercise involving over 50,000 Russian troops, naval vessels and nuclear attack bombers and he lost his sense of humor altogether. So should you. Today is the first day of July, 1999, and every warning I've issued about this month still holds. The reason we have our own military practicing war games in our own cities is because our president anticipates having to send in military forces to fight in our cities. The reason the Russians are training to attack the United States is because the Russians are planning a devastating first strike attack on the United States. A military force trains to fight in the scenario that is most immediate and likely. Those "impotent" Russians just carried out a massive military exercise in which NATO forces are attacked and the United States of America is hit my multiple warhead nuclear weapons fired from Russian bombers! If you don't get it yet, go to the back of the class and review the heretofore unheeded warnings top Russian defector Colonel Lunev has repeatedly sounded about Russian intentions for the West. We now have troops and military assets spread all over the world, and an arsenal of conventional weapons that has been vastly depleted. So what did we really accomplish in our "victory" over Kosovo? Well, latest reports show only 3 damaged tanks have been found and the majority of Milosovic's MIG air force is intact: His "destroyed" forces went flying and driving back to Belgrade. How can that be, you ask? Well, it's an old WWII trick, but most of those targets hit by the vaunted NATO pilots flying at 500 knots and 15,000 feet up were wooden dummies set out to make it look like NATO's air attack was actually accomplishing something. We now know that, had Clinton sent in ground troops, the NATO body bag count could have been catastrophic. As it turns out, Milosovic remains in power along with most of his military might. The Russians moved into Kosovo ahead of NATO in a lightning move, taking over the airport and preparing it for receipt of another 2,000 Russian troops, so NATO can't even claim a complete takeover of the immediate objective! And then there's that pompous chump, NATO "Supreme Commander", (supreme Clinton brown-noser), Wesley Clark on CNN, trying to put the best face on it by saying NATO really didn't need that silly airport anyway. He sounded like a shocked, babbling and out-matched chess player who just lost his queen in the first three moves. I couldn't stop laughing, and I am ashamed to say I was rooting for the Russians. But that's not all. We now have an imminent military crisis between North and South Korea and between India and Pakistan -- and both threaten to be nuclear military crises. So here we have our depleted military spread all over the globe, armed with a depleted conventional arsenal, and the Russians are training to attack us. Does anyone remember the full
Re: [CTRL] Fw: [TheEagle-L] Fwd: Amphibeous humanoids spawned the Merovingians?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Nicky Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Fw: [TheEagle-L] Fwd: Amphibeous humanoids spawned the Merovingians? Clinton is supposed to be descended from the French Kings. I don't know enough about this to know if its right but I think prob some reptoid got into the royalty (I hope the Irish escaped the curse!) at some time. -Original Message- From: Alan DeWalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I recieved the following info, and thought I would pass it along... The Merovingians are genetically connected to the Amphibious Reptilians. All humans are related to all other humans. Except for groups that have been geographically isolated for a couple millennia, every human on the planet can point to some common ancestry within the last one to two thousand years. If you have ANY European ancestry, then you almost certainly have Merovingian kin; and if they're reptoid, then so are you. Billy J. Clinton and the Bush boys have common ancestors just a few generations back; but they have probably 10,000 'cousins' with the same linkage, very few of whom are prominent in ANYTHING. Which goes to show: just 'cause you're reptoid, don't mean you're a hot fart on a cold day. A-huuk ptui... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ... relationships ...
-Caveat Lector- ... "relationships" ... Source: Media Bypass, June 1999, page 19 (The Uncensored National News) Bonacci"s Story-- One of the most heart-rendering parts of the court transcript is the testimony of Paul A. Bonacci, the mind-control victim survivor, on whose behalf DeCamp sued Lawrence E. King. Bonacci testified that King took him on many trips to Washington, D.C., Kansas City, Chicago, Minnesota and Los Angeles, where he prostituted the kidnapped and drugged youngster to the rich and famous -- and depraved. Bonacci said that "one person I'm not afraid to talk about because Larry King always said him and this guy were on opposite ends of the field because this guy was a Democrat and Larry King was a Republican ... And this guy -- every time I see him on TV, my wife knows my hatred for him ... His name is Barney Frank." When asked if he had "relationships" with him, Bonacci replied, "In Washington, D.C. And also I was sent to a house, I believe it was in Massachusetts in Boston where I believe it was his house because there's pictures on the wall with him and different people and stuff, that he had met I guess, but it was in his basement." Suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder, currently called Dissassociative Identity Disorder (DID), Bonacci testified that as one of his alters called Wesley, he lured Johnny Gosch into the van when he was kidnapped. "I went up to him, asked him [Gosch] a question," said Bonacci. "At that point he was close enough to the car where Tony [another kidnapper] had pulled up in the van and they pushed him in the car and they had a rag with chloroform in the bag that they had us stick over his face. And then put it back in the bag after he was out ... We drove several miles ... we met up with a station wagon and a van several times". After switching vehicles and changing direction, the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch was over. end of excerpt--- Folks, The main article starts on page 18, and is entitled "Mind Control Victim Awarded $1 Million", by Uri Dowbenko "U.S. government mind control programs, like MK-Ultra and Monarch, directed against helpless victims -- human guinea pigs -- have been virtually ignored by the Big Media Cartel. On Feb.27, 1999, however, U.S. District Court Judge Warren Urbom found former SL manager Lawrence E. King guilty of numerous crimes committed against mind control victim Paul A. Bonacci." - I highly recommend you purchase this issue of Media Bypass to read the entire article; truly horrifying. "They use these kids to sexually compromise politicians or anyone else they wish to have control of ...", page 19 Immorality is not limited to our WH. http://www.4bypass.com/ To subscribe: 1-800-4BYPASS $29.95 for an Annual subscription. (Seems the Website is being upgraded; try back soon.) Well worth it, Folks. My Heart goes out to those Parents concerned about the whereabouts of their Children. Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Broeder Bond
-Caveat Lector- The Broeder Bond allegedly meet at Ruiport, in a geographical locality which is exactly centre of that part of Africa. There is allegedly a big decision making centre there on land owned by deBeers, and strangely enough an incredible archaeological site of a long vanished african people. Next to the ops centre is a massive jutting rock called the finger of Kuriman, and all around it - laid out in the desert plain are patterns of boulders. On each boulder is painted a creature - and some of these were extinct a long time ago. Elsewhere in South Africa, the head, eyes etc of Kuriman turn up with geographical precision. Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fluoride II
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:16:51 -0700 From: David Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Fluoride II Post Number 102: Fluoridation Part II As is usual, I given many different views on the subject after sending out the first Post on fluoride. People are so programmed that it is incredible; they simply do not have any ability to think today. If they are told something, they believe. No need to investigate; they wouldnt lie to us would they? But that is exactly the question; would they lie to you? On the other hand, I did receive some excellent comments on the subject, and it is obvious that a few people, at least, are waking up. As you are reading the following, please keep in mind what this information reveals about the mind-set in Washington, DC. Perhaps within this information you will begin to see how useless your efforts to petition Washington, DC, really are, and perhaps you can then come to see the real solutions. David David; I have worked in the water treatment industry since 1980. In the military we added hydrofluorosilic acid to the water to flouridate it. Hydrofluorosilic acid is VERY CORROSIVE. the fumes alone etch glass. The MSDS on it says it is a cancer causing chemical. The SPADS reagent used to test the amount of fluoride in the water is just as dangerous. It is interesting to note also that I am also diagnosed as Manic Bipolar a "mental disorder". I wonder if my exposure to this chemical in the military had anything to do with my condition today. Who knows what the chlorine, lime, Aluminum Sulfate, Ortho Phospates have done. The Whip (For the following, Steve, I thank you, and so does everyone else! David) excellent summary, I think. Steve http://www.trufax.org/fluoride/mullenix.html Phyllis J. Mullenix, Ph.D. P.O. Box 753 Andover, Massachusetts 01810-3347 May 5, 1999 BSA Environmental Services 21403 Chagrin Blvd, Suite 101 Beechwood, Ohio 44122 Re: Request for information on drinking water fluoridation Dear Drs. Romoser-Breno and Beaver: The April 15th request for comments regarding water fluoridation is vague in that no assurances are offered as to how my written opinion will be used. Thus, a copy of this letter will be send to Mr. Gilbert Gonzales at Fort Detrick. Without the benefit of having read the "Environmental Assessment" report to which you have referred to in your letter, I run the risk of being redundant with regard to the material already prepared. With these caveats, I offer the following comments about water fluoridation. To start, I must correct a statement you made in your letter regarding my being an "expert on drinking water fluoridation issues." Prior to 1982, my knowledge of fluoride was limited to television commercials which said it was good for my teeth. Rather, my expertise was detection of neurotoxicity, which brought me to the Department of Psychiatry at Boston's Children's Hospital and Neuropathology at the Harvard Medical School. It was there I met Dr.Jack Hein, Director of the Forsyth Dental Center and the scientist responsible for putting monofluorophosphate (MFP) into toothpaste. Dr. Hein was a student of Dr. Harold Hodge, the chief pharmacologist on the Manhattan Atomic Bomb Project who conducted with world-renowned studies on fluoride (1) and started water fluoridation. Dr. Hein invited me to Forsyth to study the neurotoxic potential of materials that dentists use, starting with fluoride, and we set up the first toxicology department in any dental research institution in the world. I was made Head of the department, and Dr. Hodge moed to Boston and became a member of my department where he stayed until his death in 1990. Another Manhattan Project scientist and fluoride researcher, Dr. Ben Amdur, also joined the department. My investigations of the neurotoxicity of fluoride started in 1987. Using a new computer pattern recognition system capable of a sensitivity and objectivity other behavioral measures did not possess, we studied an animal model first developed for the study of dental fluorosis. Frankly, we expected to find nothing. The results from the first experiment we thought must be wrong, so we kept repeating the study with more animals, different doses, sexes, ages and methods of administration. Like quicksand, every effort we made sank us further into the realization that brain function was impacted by fluoride. Scientific integrity dictated that we publish our results (2,3), but the fact that we were employed as a dental research institution made us "weak at the knees" to do so. In our 1995 paper (2), we reported that brain function was vulnerable to fluoride, and that the effects on behavior depended on the age of exposure and that fluoride accumulated in brain tissues. Rats exposed as adults displayed behavior-specific changes typical of cognitive
Re: [CTRL] is USA Trillions in debt ????
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone at our Transformation Group said that the US was trillions in debt and that Clinton has promised to pay it back in 15 years is this true ?? -- I thought that the American Financial system was incredibly good !! Whats the truth then ?? All true. The US nat'l debt IS at about US$5 tln now; it was around US$1 tln when Reagan took office and around US$4 tln when Bush left, so they managed to spend quite a bit. And the projected revenues DO allow for paying it all off, if Congress doesn't vote for humungeous tax relief for the wealthy - at which point it would be possible to eliminate income taxes, financing the US gov't entirely by tariffs and duties, like maybe a fee on every item of personal data a gov't agency sells to private concerns. "Nothing's certain but death and taxes" - so if taxes go away, can death be far behind? Get ready for immortality. Of course, the telepathic giant squids who exercise effective mind-control over Congress could mess things up for us... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AANews
-Caveat Lector- Does anyone know of an atheist who has taken a shotgun and gone on a Christian killing spree? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: Treatment of Women in Afghanistan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/05/1999 11:03:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everyone has a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are women in a Muslim country. If we can threaten military force in Kosovo in the name of human rights for the sake of ethnic Albanians, citizens of the world can certainly express peaceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injustice committed against women by the Taliban. There's no question that it is true; however please don't think that women in a Muslim country are treated in this way. The Taliban are not true Muslims. Mohammed liked and respected women. His instructions to them were that a woman should cover her hair, her arms and draw her robe across her bosom when abroad among strangers. The Koran has a long list of male relatives before whom she need not cover. The Taliban have invented a religion of their own. It is not unusual in this world for men to take their principal pleasure in the ill treatment of women. The Taliban are just a society of that kind of men. One of Mohammed's wives was an Imam. He would never have approved of the Taliban's treatment of their women. Mass suicide among Taliban women would not change the minds of their sadistic oppressors, but it would at least prevent descendents from carrying on the heresy. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Brits Reap Gun Control Rewards
-Caveat Lector- Brits love to preach about their draconian gun control laws. Over the past several weeks a celebrated TV newswoman was shot on her front step. Several armed car jackings in London with AK 47's and of course the rate of "home invasion" burglaries is 5x's the rate in the US. flw THE TIMES July 7 1999 BRITAIN Innocents at risk as drug gangs go to war with guns BY DANIEL MCGRORY A SPATE of murders on crowded London streets has provoked fears of a summer war between rival drug gangs. The latest victim - 20-year-old Dean Roberts - was murdered by two men with handguns in a busy suburban road. They did not try to disguise their identities. Witnesses were, as usual, too frightened to say anything to police, who increased armed patrols last night amid fears of revenge attacks. Eight people have been killed in as many weeks - all victims of what detectives described as "gangland-style executions". Appeals for calm by Scotland Yard brought scorn last night from many community leaders, who fear that innocent bystanders may be caught in the worsening feuds.One leader in South London said: "You don't have as many shootings as this without people getting scared. Most incidents go unreported unless there is a corpse, but the level of violence has never been worse. "We need to know how it is that with ever more stringent gun laws, these gangs can get hold of weapons so easily." Chief Superintendent Paul Green said: "London is a safe city and people do not need to fear leaving their homes." After a gunfight at the weekend outside a pub in Hoxton, East London, police found nine cars with bullet holes. There were bloodstains in many of them, but they had been abandoned by the time armed officers arrived. Two of the victims were later traced to a hospital near by. They had driven themselves to the accident and emergency department but refused to say how they had been wounded.Police could find no witnesses to what one officer said "must have been a massive and very noisy gun battle". The murder of Mr Roberts in Harlesden was the fourth killing in that area of northwest London in recent weeks. It came after a weekend of violence and less than three weeks after Scotland Yard created a new task force to tackle violent Jamaican "Yardie" drug gangs. The reason for the killings was drugs, but not all the victims were drug dealers, detectives said. There are thought to be a number of rival gangs involved in the feuds on both sides of the Thames. One senior officer said: "With every victim and every incident, you get the seeds of revenge. There are so many guns in the hands of these people that the opportunity for them to cause more violence is immense." Security sources say there are more guns than ever in the hands of low-level drug dealers who have little fear of using them. Among the most recent attacks was that of a 23-year-old man shot in the head as he sat at the wheel of his car, chatting to another motorist, in Clapham, South London. Two masked men walked up to him and fired at least ten times. They calmly walked away as women ran from their homes to help. Police refuse to name the victim, who is under guard in hospital. It is thought that among other drug war victims was a mother, Laverne Forbes, who was murdered last month with her partner, Patrick Smith, in front of her seven-year-old daughter. Police believe that the 28-year-old was shot simply because she had seen a drug gang at work in Tottenham, North London. A Yard spokesman said: "With so many incidents, detectives are trying to establish any links between them and also incidents in recent weeks outside London." Police have linked two murders in South London last month. In the first, Alexander Junior Ero, 30, was found dying on the stairs of a tower block. He had been stabbed in the abdomen. Four days later police found the body of Andrew Burke, 27, in the boot of a car that had been set alight in Lewisham, southeast London. There is evidence that many shootings go unreported. Police were recently called to a South London club that had been peppered with gunshots. There were bloodstains on the walls and floor and yet all of those crowded inside insisted that nothing had happened. The Yardie gangs often use restaurants, clubs and taxi firms as a front for their drug dealing empires. Their armouries consist of automatic weapons, including Uzi and Mach 10 sub-machineguns as well as pistols. A favoured weapon of late is the 9mm machine pistol known as the "spray and pray", which can "squirt" 20 rounds a second. Official figures disclose the escalating violence of the drug gangs. Of the 160 murders in London in 1997, 41 of the victims were black and 18 were shot. All those shootings were thought to have been by Yardie gangs. In the two years from 1996 to 1998, guns were fired 291 times in London. A senior officer involved in the investigations said that witnesses were always hard to find. "The problem is that even the victims of
Re: [CTRL] THE CITY
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/6/99 3:24:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NEW YORK (AP) - President Clinton has authorized the CIA to help topple Yugoslavia's President Slobodan Milosevic, Time magazine reports today. CIA computer hackers will try to meddle with Milosevic's private financial transactions and electronically siphon funds from his overseas bank accounts, What's fair for the goose ... If Red China has PROMIS software, maybe next we'll find out that all the electronic deposits headed for the US treasury are now in Beijing ... Well, and good, but there is one question that troubles me. Why would all of these countries be given this software, UNLESS it had the backdoor in it so that anything they did we could undo? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/6/99 3:43:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ``It's been amazing with the CDC how much some of the scientists are concerned more about politics than science. They want to protect their careers. That's why they put forth the token effort,'' asserts Kim Kenney, executive director of the Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome Association of America. This, of course is the problem with all of sciencedom. Or is that sciencedumb? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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[CTRL] Police rob and kill (fwd.)
-Caveat Lector- Forwarded from another. Take a look. Ray, the editorial from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution is more of the fool-the-public writing which is endemic in the country as part of the ongoing campaign to confuse us rather than truly inform us. First, to say that Scott was shot dead by "a sheriff's deputy serving an early-morning search warrant" continues the obfuscation about these raids. As you and others on forced altruism know, what actually happens is that in the middle of the night, when people are asleep, a gang of ninjas breaks through the doors and immediately assumes aggression against the occupants. Anyone who reasonably acts to try and defend themselves against these sudden intruders is killed. This not infrequently occurs as the result of police informers, which has led to police action against completely innocent people, sometimes even at the wrong address. However, the real travesty is how all of this continues to be presented to the public. Henry Hyde, like most other federal dishonorables, got his turn to try and fool us into thinking that he cares about our rights and privacy. Most of the time, this sort of thing is purely fodder for the public, knowing all along that the bill won't pass both House and Senate. When something does pass, however, it is usually just another form of federal dictate in territory where they are not supposed to be in the first place. We the People all over the political spectrum will continue to use examples like this to pretend that there is a rational debate of sorts going on, which ignores plain reality. It is 100% true as you highlighted, "If true, Ramstad's warning is all the more reason to reform the law. IF CONFISCATIONS ARE OCCURRING ON SUCH A SCALE AS TO BE A PRIME SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR LOCAL POLICE, THIS THING HAS GOTTEN WAY OUT OF HAND. [Emphasis mine. -RT]" The main problem is that what we are being sold on is "reform" because things have "gotten out of hand". Instead, we should be getting rid of this abomination entirely. The fact that these police powers were "passed during the first Reagan administration as part of the war on drugs" is very important to getting beyond the rhetoric of politics. Clinton opposes the reform. I bet Bush does too. And Gore. And of course, local law enforcement wouldn't want to be reformed. All people who have profited from the drug war, legally and illegally, while hurting millions of people in the process not to mention trashing our supposed constitutional republic, based on natural rights and limited government. As Mike Ruppert says, "Covert operations are driven by economics (money) -- not politics (spin). Congress, the Cabinet, the major media and even the White House have come here for a reality check when they can't separate themselves from their own spin." http://www.copvcia.com/ Instead of just saying no to drugs, we should've just been saying no to the intrusions of federal power first. Since we did not, and the same people were pushing drugs who were also telling us that we needed a War on Drugs, we continue to finance the destruction of liberty. There is no "reform" that will change that fact. Virginia Message: 1 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 09:18:31 PDT From: Ray Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Police Rob and Kill POLICE ROB AND KILL Forced Altruism List 7/5/99 Reposting permitted in complete form with the contact information at the end intact. This came from Keith Nobles [EMAIL PROTECTED], moderator of the "Keith's Forum Against The Man" List. Contact him if you're interested in subscribing. This story is an excellent example of why we need to completely DO AWAY WITH RICO LAWS. They are an abomination and are unconstitutional if anyone would take the time and effort (and the money) to challenge them in an honest court (rather than one of the courts where judges rule based on current liberal ideas). The day has come when you wonder whether that red light in your mirror means you're going to get a ticket or be robbed. When the police become bandits, we're lost. When they "target" someone's property and even have it APPRAISED before the raid. they can no longer be called police, but bandits with badges. RAY THOMA$ REIN IN POLICE RAIDS FOR PROFIT The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, p. E-6 July 4, 1999 Lead Editorial On Oct. 22, 1992, 61-year-old Donald Scott was shot dead in his own home by a sheriff's deputy serving an early-morning search warrant on Scott's ranch in Ventura County, Calif. No drugs were found, and the local district attorney later determined that the search warrant had been obtained by using false evidence. So why was the raid undertaken? The district attorney's investigation determined that the deadly raid "was motivated, at least in part, by a desire to seize and forfeit the ranch for the government." Before the raid occurred, deputies had gone so far as to get an appraisal of the $5 million ranch, which they hoped to confiscate for