[CTRL] FBI Spymaster Heads China Probe
-Caveat Lector- FBI Veteran Heads China Spy Probe By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - A 21-year FBI veteran with a background in counterintelligence is taking over the task force conducting the bureau's newly broadened investigation into the alleged Chinese theft of nuclear weapons secrets. The FBI announced Tuesday that Stephen W. Dillard, currently head of its Jackson, Miss., office, has been named inspector in charge of the task force, a job he took over Monday. The bureau is still deciding how many agents are needed for the probe of whether data about the miniature W-88 warhead and other weapons was taken from U.S. nuclear laboratories. China has rejected any allegations of espionage. Dillard, who has a law degree from Mississippi College School of Law, has served in the FBI's national security division at headquarters where he managed all foreign counterintelligence and counterespionage operations as chief of the global section. He also has served as assistant chief of the counterterrorism section, unit chief of the Russian section and unit chief of the counterterrorism section of that division. He also previously worked in the Kansas City, Washington and Salt Lake City field offices. The FBI broadened its investigation last week, after focusing for nearly four years on a scientist at the Los Alamos nuclear weapons lab in New Mexico. Attorney General Janet Reno said the expansion ``is in response to questions that have been raised in terms of new evidence. I think there may have been new facts brought to the attention of the FBI.'' Several outside panels have criticized the original probe for concentrating exclusively on Los Alamos and pointed out that many other government and industry people - more than the FBI originally realized - had access to the information that may have been taken. Technical information about the miniature W-88 warhead ``had been widely available'' from numerous places in government and among private contractors ``and could have come from many organizations other than the weapons labs,'' a panel of the president's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board concluded in a report in June. A government official said the FBI will put more resources into the investigation and expand it beyond the Los Alamos laboratory, where the bureau's attention has been concentrated since early 1996. More serious consideration will be given to other agencies or individuals as possible sources of the technical information that China is believed to have obtained in the 1980s, said the official, speaking on condition of not being further identified. Nevertheless, a former Los Alamos computer scientist, Wen Ho Lee, who was fired in March for violating security rules, remains a suspect in the FBI's investigation, said another official, also speaking on condition of anonymity. Although not charged with a crime, he has been the prime - some say virtually only - target the FBI has pursued in the nearly four-year investigation. Lee, a Taiwan-born computer scientist who worked with the top-secret weapons design team at Los Alamos since the late 1970s, has denied giving any secrets to China and has accused the government of singling him out because he is Chinese-American. Government sources familiar with the investigation have expressed doubt that an espionage case can be made against him, although prosecution on lesser security violations has not been ruled out. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] He Who Spies on His Friends Has Only Enemies
-Caveat Lector- Germany Expels 3 CIA Agents MUNICH, Germany (AP) - Public television reported Tuesday that three CIA spies had been uncovered in Munich and forced to leave the country. The German government promised Washington it would keep the affair quiet, even agreeing not to officially expel the three, but allowing them to be ordered home by the U.S. government, ZDF public television said in a news release about its report, which is to air Wednesday night. The U.S. Embassy in Berlin declined to comment on the report. Domestic intelligence officials in Munich also refused to comment. In Washington, CIA officials could not be reached, and a State Department official said he had heard nothing about it. ZDF did not say what the three were allegedly working on in Germany. This was the second time that a CIA agent had been uncovered and expelled from postwar Germany, the report said. In March 1997, the German Economics Ministry confirmed that a U.S. diplomat tried to recruit one of its department chiefs to spy for Washington. Media reports at the time said the Americans were chiefly interested in getting a list of German companies that delivered high-technology supplies to Iran. A newsmagazine, Der Spiegel, estimated then that 100 U.S. intelligence agents were operating undercover in Germany. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Saint Ferdinand -- Marcos!
-Caveat Lector- No coincidence the Catholic prelate of the Philippines is named "Cardinal Sin." Philippine Cult Worships Marcos By JIM GOMEZ .c The Associated Press ABRA, Philippines (AP) - A picture of the ``Sacred Heart of Jesus'' in a Philippine chapel has the familiar features, including the heart ringed by a crown of thorns. But there's one startling difference - the face is that of the late Philippine strongman Ferdinand Marcos. Although vilified by many as a ruthless dictator, Marcos is worshipped by hundreds of cult followers in the mountains of Abra province, about 200 miles north of Manila. ``We regard him as a saint,'' said cult leader Rodolfo Cabusao, a 51-year-old former tailor. Wearing white cassocks, cult members - mostly impoverished peasants - sing prayers in a thatch-roofed chapel adorned with portraits of Marcos along with traditional religious figures. Their behavior is in sharp contrast to the thousands of people nationwide who held pro-democracy rallies last week on the anniversary of Marcos' imposition of martial rule 27 years ago. They burned an effigy of the late president's widow, Imelda, near the presidential palace. Cabusao says cult followers do not want to be dragged into the political conflict surrounding Marcos. Instead, cult life is focused around a self-sustaining mountain retreat where members grow rice and vegetables on a sprawling farm and raise money by selling orchids. The group began as one of several small nationalist cults, collectively called the Rizalian Brotherhood, which have long venerated Philippine national hero Jose Rizal as a reincarnation of Christ. It began worshipping Marcos soon after the former dictator died in September 1989, when Cubasao says Marcos appeared to him in an apparition and proclaimed himself God's disciple. Cabusao maintains he has found Bible passages to support the claim and says Marcos also fits the description of the government leader cult founders prophesied would deliver God's promises of love and prosperity to millions of Filipinos. ``We worship him. We believe the crimes he's been accused of were not really committed by him, but by his men,'' said Saniata Guarin, Cabusao's sister and head of an Abra elementary school. Marcos was driven from power in 1986 by an army-backed ``people power'' revolt that ended his 20-year rule and sent him into exile in Hawaii, where he died three years later. Succeeding governments have accused the Marcoses and their associates of human rights abuses and of plundering billions of dollars. The Philippines is Asia's only predominantly Roman Catholic nation. Philippine anthropologist Landa Jocano says the emergence of cults worshipping Rizal, and now Marcos, are rooted in the Philippines' struggle against Spain, which colonized the archipelago from 1565 to 1898. As Filipino guerrillas revolted against Spanish colonial rule in the late 1800s, some nationalist Filipino priests broke off from the Spanish-led Catholic church and established their own independent church, imbuing it with nationalism. Abra's Catholic bishop, Artemio Rillera, said he was unaware of the cult but said he would look into its activities and try to persuade its followers ``to practice the right manner of worshipping God.'' ``If they claim that a human person is God, that's idolatry, that's false,'' Rillera said. During worship services, cult members in Abra flank their altars with large Philippine flags. When they pray, they raise their right hand to their chest - a sign of respect for the flag - instead of making the sign of the cross. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] China Has No Interest in Panama Canal, says Clinton
-Caveat Lector- --who also said "I did not have 'sex' with 'that woman.'" "TRUST me ..." China Said Uninterested in Panama WASHINGTON (AP) - The Clinton administration sees nothing to indicate that the Chinese have any desire to control the Panama Canal, a Pentagon spokesman said Tuesday in response to congressional concern about a Hong Kong-based company's management of canal ports. ``It's an issue within the Panamanian government's control and one that we look at and do not consider to be a security issue or a security threat to the United States at all,'' Adm. Craig Quigley said at a Pentagon news conference. Panamanian officials also have dismissed fears that the 20-year arrangement with Hutchison Whampoa Ltd. will give China control over the waterway after the United States gives up the canal at the end of the year. The company will manage access to ports at both the Pacific and Atlantic entrances to the canal. Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., has sent a letter to President Clinton raising concern about the matter and to the Senate Armed Services Committee calling for hearings, now planned next month. ``We have nothing to indicate that the Chinese have the slightest desire to somehow control the Panama Canal,'' Quigley said. ``And we don't consider this a security issue at all. Is it a business issue.'' Quigley said it is an issue within the Panamanian government and involves a deal with ``a well-established businessman.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB
-Caveat Lector- This is a site re Paleoclimate data concerning the flood. It has a great deal of info and supportive data http://www.stanford.edu/~meehan/donnelly/paleo2.html The link can be accessed via my pole shift links page at http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/links Andrew, if you feel inclined to check it out, then perhaps you could suuggest a few more links. Thanks Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB -Caveat Lector- I have read a lot of material on catastrophism since I first encountered *The HAB Theory* in 1976, and there is considerable evidence that *something* happened within the lifetime of the human race that completely disrupted life on this planet. But it demands serious scholarly attention, hi, the following comments fit in exactly with the HAB theory I'm afraid. The HAB theory says that disaster by plate reshuffle happens every 7500 years or so Scientists have never found Noah or his ark, but they believe in his flood. It happened about 7,600 years ago, when the Mediterranean Sea, swollen by melted glaciers, breached a natural dam separating it from the freshwater lake known today as the Black Sea. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-09/26/195l-092699-idx.html COMPELLING evidence that there was a Great Flood, as told in the Old Testament story of Noah's Ark, has been found far below the waters of the Black Sea by an American expedition. Underwater surveyors, led by Robert Ballard, the renowned oceanographer who found the Titanic and other sunken ships of the 20th century, have discovered an ancient coastline at a depth of 450ft. http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999 A HREF="http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999"C li ck here: The Times: World News:Evidence of Great Flood is found Story of Noah's Ark backed by coastline discovery/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Church vs. State (Supreme Court)
-Caveat Lector- The trouble with allowing SOME --primarily the Fundamentalist "Moral Majority-- to override the separation of church and state in America is that this opens the door for the "religionization" of politics by OTHERS TOO -- and some groups, such as the Catholic Church, have not only bigger financial clout but an INTERNATIONAL power base ... The cry of "anti-Catholicism!" is slowly becoming as strident as "anti-Semitism!" I bet those who are nostalgic for the "good old days" of the '50s, when paranoid anti-Communism justified a National Security State run by fascist generalissimos, are just as nostalgic for a return to censorship of the mass media by the Catholic Church, the de facto guardian of "public morals" in America during the same period ... Cardinal Questions Court Choices BOSTON (AP) - Cardinal Bernard Law has raised objections to two of Gov. Paul Cellucci's nominees for the state's highest court, saying the two women are open to charges of anti-Catholicism. Law told the governor in a letter last week that past actions by Supreme Judicial Court Justice Margaret Marshall and Superior Court Judge Judith Cowin showed ``an attitude and mentality, which I find troubling.'' He cited examples involving a gay rights case and a prominent opponent of abortion. ``I fear that in both these nominees there has been evidenced a certain mindset which at times is open to the serious charge of anti-Catholicism,'' Law wrote. Marshall has been nominated for promotion from associate justice to chief justice on the Supreme Judicial Court, the state's highest court. Cowin has been nominated to fill a vacancy on the court. Marshall's nomination will be taken up by the Governor's Council on Wednesday and Cowin's in the next few weeks. The eight-member council, an elected body, has the power to confirm or deny gubernatorial appointments. Cellucci today said that Law's concerns were serious ones and he would have his legal counsel look into them again. He said the nominations had previously been reviewed, particularly that of Marshall's, and the charges were found to be baseless. ``There's not a biased bone in her body,'' he said of Marshall. In Cowin's case, Law cited a complaint referred to a council member from a lawyer who said she displayed anti-Catholic bias in a 1997 case involving church-run Carney Hospital. A jury had had found that the hospital fired a worker because administrators thought he was gay, and awarded him $1.2 million. The complaint said Cowin increased the amount of the award, citing problems ``inherent in suing a respected Boston charitable institution ... (and) the strength of the Catholic Church.'' Law's concern about Marshall stems from a letter she wrote while general counsel at Harvard University to Mary Ann Glendon, a Harvard law professor and leading Catholic intellectual who is an antiabortion advocate. He gave no details. The Boston Globe said the two women and Law were all unavailable for comment or did not return calls seeking comment. Cardinal Condemns "Sacrilegious" Virgin Painting By BETH J. HARPAZ .c The Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) - Cardinal John O'Connor on Sunday asked Catholics to join him in condemning a painting of the Virgin Mary embellished with a clump of elephant dung, while civil rights activists defended the Brooklyn Museum of Art's right to show the piece. Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, meanwhile, reiterated his pledge to cut all $7 million of city funding to the museum - one-third of its budget - unless the painting is pulled from an exhibit scheduled to open Friday. ``I'm saddened by what appears to be an attack not only on our blessed mother ... but one must ask if it is not an attack on religion itself and in a special way on the Catholic Church,'' said O'Connor in his weekly sermon at St. Patrick's Cathedral. O'Connor did not name the mayor, but said he was ``grateful to city officials,'' adding: ``It is their right, if not their duty, to express themselves on such matters.'' O'Connor urged his listeners to write to the museum: ``You might want to express your deep sadness at this disrespect.'' But New York Civil Liberties Union director Norman Siegel said the mayor's threats to cut the funding ``violates the First Amendment. His assertion that New York City can withdraw all funds for the museum based on a single exhibition that he finds offensive illustrates a serious misunderstanding of the Constitution.'' Siegel, who discussed the controversy Sunday as a speaker at St. Mary's Episcopal Church in Harlem, later said by phone that government funding may not legally be withdrawn because public officials dislike particular works. ``You don't have an obligation to provide funding to the arts but once you do, you can't defund a museum solely because public officials are displeased with the expression of the art,'' he said. The Brooklyn Museum's director, Arnold Lehman, has not publicly said what he will do, but he has a
Re: [CTRL] LaRouche: the KGB librarian hoa
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-22 14:47:11 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 7. Let us all suddenly grow up. The Blair monarchy, abetted by fools among both Bush Republicans and Gore Whatevers, are engaged in escalated the global strategic situation along the lines repeatedly proposed by lunatic Zbigniew Brzezinski and his political "Leperello," Samuel P. Huntington. The highly artificed Mitrokhin Flap is purely and plainly one of those hoaxes, even less believable than the Gordievsky swindle, which comes along whenever British sheep-herders take to stampeding enragable American political sheep. Again, LaRouche is right on the money, IMHO, regarding the psy-war strategies of our elders (far better and more devious at this game) in the UK's National Security State. In the Mitrokhin affair, as in the parallel case of Lunev (popular with American fascists), I've seen all the hallmarks of previous "Soviet defectors" whose real credibility is nil but whose supposed "defection" enables disinfo experts in our counter-intelligence services to "leak" alleged "truths" fortuitously serving the CIA's own psy-war goals -- "facts" of which the CIA has always tried to convince us before, UNSUCCESSFULLY (thanks to a wealth of CONTRARY facts from sources NOT easily debunked as Commie agitprop) but which might appear more believable now, fallaciously an "argument from authority." There can be no "World War III" justified IDEOLOGICALLY --none of the paranoia and mass-hysteria so dear to out-of-work Cold Warriors in the military-industrial complex, in right-wing "think tanks," and in other dead-end niches for aging fascisti, nostalgic for a militarized DOMESTIC national security apparatus rationalized by "anti-Communism"-- until the American public is convinced that the "Evil Empire" is still alive and well, if not even MORE powerful, and that we "Communist dupes" have foolishly FALLEN for its relentless, all-permeating "subversive" propaganda, ever since the presidency of "fellow traveller" John F. Kennedy and other influential "Communist agents" like Martin Luther King, from whom an entire generation of "Baby Boomers" has imbibed the poisoned mother's milk of Marxist-Leninism under the cunning disguise of "liberal conscience." In other words, until these over-the-hill fascisti persuade us that, had not we not taken a terribly wrong and ideologically misguided turn, we'd still be living in the "good old days" of Joe McCarthy, Nixon, and J. Edgar Hoover, and nothing was closer to Heaven on Earth, if only we had recognized it and had never doubted their authority or motives! Yes, I'm rhetorically beating a dead horse -- but it looks like that horse, not white but only whitewashed, is the very same one our putative "saviors" intend to ride back in on, as the walls close in our free society and the iron fist of totalitarianism is slammed down on the table of legitimate dissent. We'd better trust our government, folks -- OR ELSE. My only question is, how long before the "retro" hysteria evident in the UK -- convenient for Blair's more "conservative" successors in the UK, being groomed for 2000-- emerges in the United States as well -- promoted, no doubt, by the no doubt inevitable Bush II administration, which may sweep the neoliberalism of the whole Clinton era under the same rug as the "Kennedy phenomenon," a whole populace FOOLED by COMMIES? How long before the State rewrittes history AGAIN, as it did after the Roosevelt era, to provide a sophistic raison d'etre for the Realpolitik of our post-2000 authoritarianism? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply
-Caveat Lector- Have you considered the possibility that life expectancy in India vs. U.S. is possibly related to CRUSHING POVERTY ? Dead bodies floating in the river? How 'bout this: homeopathic remedies are sold OTC for about $5- a vial that would last for maybe a year or so, if used according to methods recommended by professional homeopaths. I'm always astounded by folks who are so absolutely convinced of their mental clarity and incisiveness... who are only hollowly parrotting media disinformation WAKE UP ! YOU are a cash cow. The insurance industry, the medical/pharmaceutical industries depend upon you. Obviously, you also depend upon them, having totally abandoned any THOUGHT for anything other than what your TOOB tells you. (image of smiling Marcus Welby, hands Ric a nice pill Ric is happy, and going off to sleep.) Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ric Carter Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homoeopathic remedies cost nearly nothing to make. They aren't patentable. They FAR outperform poisonous petrochemical based pharmaceuticals. Thus if they worked, they'd be ideal products for the generic drug industry - y'know, the firms that make wait until patents expire, that pump out zillions of pharmaceutical clones, OTC pain-killers, the vast bulk of our self-applied remedies. There's more to the pharmaceuticals business than just developing and patenting brand- name drugs. CibaGeigy may not be interested in selling usable homeopathic preparations (HPs), but a host of other chemical labs WOULD be so inclined - IF said HPs were shown to work, and were marketed to mainstream consumers. You could start by discovering that Homoeopathy is one of 4 equally respected forms of medicine in India, somewhat ahead of "western" medicine. And life expectancy in India is about 49 years, rather less than in countries practicing western medicine. That's the problem with the old 'medical' traditions - patients tend to die young. Bother. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] For women--danger in feminine products
-Caveat Lector- I'm thinkin' hoax Found an industry-sponsored site that denies allegations: http://bodymatters.com/questions/questions4.html mebbe guerrilla advertising for the health food store tampons or sponges or ? Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of earthman Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] For women--danger in feminine products -Caveat Lector- Can anyone confirm this before I pass it on? I wouldn't want to waste their time with a hoax. Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 1:26 PM Subject: [CTRL] For women--danger in feminine products -Caveat Lector- Got this in my email. I knew about the dioxin in white coffee filters, but this is news to me Tenorlove -- Subject: WARNING for females... (O-Sh) Please pass on to as many women as possible . . . If you use pads, but especially if you use tampons read this and pass on to your friends (for the men receiving this email, please forward it to your friends, significant others, sisters, mothers, daughters, etc.) thanks! Have you heard that tampon makers include asbestos in tampons? Why would they do this? Because asbestos makes you bleed more . . . if you bleed more, you're going to need to use more. Why isn't this against the law since asbestos is so dangerous? Because the powers that be, in all their wisdom(not), did not consider tampons as being ingested, and therefore wasn't illegal or considered dangerous. This month's Essence magazine has a small article about this and they mention two manufacturers of a cotton tampon alternative. The companies are Organic Essentials @ (800) 765-6491 and Terra Femme @ (800)755-0212. A woman getting her Ph.D. at University of Colorado @ Boulder sent the following: "I am writing this because women are not being informed about the dangers of something most of us use - tampons. I am taking a class this month and I have been learning a lot about biology and woman, including much about feminine hygiene. Recently we have learned that tampons are actually dangerous (for other reasons than TSS). I'll tell you this, after learning about this in our class, most of the females wound up feeling angry and upset with the tampon industry, and I for one, am going to do something about it. To start, I want to inform everyone I can, and email is the fastest way that I know how. Here is the scoop: Tampons contain two things that are potentially harmful: Rayon (for absorbency), and dioxin (a chemical used in bleaching the products). The tampon industry is convinced that we, as women, need bleached white products - in order to view the product as pure and clean. The problem here is that the dioxin produced in this bleaching process can lead to very harmful problems for a woman. Dioxin is potentially carcinogenic (cancer-associated) and is toxic to the immune and reproductive systems. It has also been linked to endometriosis and lower sperm counts for men- for both, it breaks down the immune system. Last September the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) reported that there really is no set "acceptable" level of exposure to dioxin given that it is cumulative and slow to disintegrate. The real danger comes from repeated contact (Karen Houppert "Pulling the Plug on the Tampon Industry"). I'd say using about 4-5 tampons a day, five days a month, for 38 menstruating years is "repeated contact", wouldn't you? Rayon contributes to the danger of tampons and dioxin because its a highly absorbent substance. Therefore, when fibers from the tampons are left behind in the vagina (as it usually occurs), it creates a breeding ground for the dioxin. It also stays in a lot longer than it would with just cotton tampons. This is also the reason why TSS (toxic shock syndrome) occurs. WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? Using feminine hygiene products that aren't bleached and that are all cotton. Other feminine hygiene products (pads/napkins) contain dioxin as well, but they are not nearly as dangerous since they are not in direct contact with the vagina. The pads/napkins need to stop being bleached, but obviously tampons are the most dangerous. So, what can you do if you can't give up using tampons? Use tampons, that are made from 100% cotton, and that are UNBLEACHED. Unfortunately, there are very, very few companies that make these safe tampons. They are usually only found in health food stores. Countries all over the world (Sweden, Germany, British Columbia, etc.) have demanded a switch to this safer tampon, while the US.
Re: [CTRL] Israel -- WANTED: Holy Blood
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-28 12:37:25 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 9/28/99 1:29:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each time Israel has had a monarch, since King David, it's been big trouble ... Last time it offered a Davidic "MESSIAH," things turned out even WORSE. Howdy, Can you expand on that statement? The United Kingdom was split in two by a civil war (led by the Prophets) as soon as David died and his son Solomon became king, claiming the Judean throne primarily by eliminating his brothers and other claimants next in line. Afterwards, raw power politics of a sort worthy only of a Herod. Judah under Assyrian rule -- "Messiah" Hezekiah put forward by the prophet Isaiah, but only ending in disaster. Judah under Egyptian vs. Babylonian rule -- "Messiah" Josiah put forward by the prophet Jeremiah, but only ending in disaster. Judah under Persian rule -- "Messiah" Joshua put forward by the anonymous prophet known to scholars as "second Isaiah," a mouthpiece for EZRA, but only ending in disaster. Judah under the Seleucids -- a Hasmonean/Maccabean "Messiah" (the subject of the apoocryphal Book of Daniel) put forward by the Zadokite priests who evolved into the"Essenes" of the Qumran Community, but, after several generations of corrupt Hasonean/Maccabean power politics, only ending in disaster, with the conquest of Judea by Rome under general Pompey the Great. Next, I'm referring, of course, to "Messiah" Yeshua ben Yusuf, aka Jesus Christ. I'm sure that when the anti-government agitation of John the Baptist (believed by many at the time to be the expected Messiah) first began causing problems for King Herod, Rome grew concerned that the fragile puppet-state it had established in order to keep the Jewish people in subjection to the Empire was being "destablized" by a "radical" faction among whose goals was independence of Roman rule. Messianic hopes --i.e., the outcry for a "Liberator" (from foreign oppression)-- were high among the populace -- so high, in fact, that Herod's "public relations" men in the "priestly" bureaucracy made an effort to convince the populace that Herod HIMSELF was that expected Messiah. That didn't fare too well either with Herod's Roman masters, since they understood full well that the MAIN attribute of any Messiah was that he spearhead a REVOLT against foreign domination. So Herodians shuttled back and forth between Jerusalem to Rome, trying to convince the Emperor of the "loyalty" (obedience) of their Jewish subjects to Roman authority and the ultimate security of these puppet-kings' Roman client State. So, when the execution of John the Baptist not only failed to quell popular discontent with Herod's rule --therefore, with ROMAN rule-- but instead led only to INCREASED agitation by John's disciples (led by the Baptist's protege Jesus of Nazareth), it was only a matter of time before Rome's "peacekeepers" would be dispatched to the Holy Land to "restore law and order" (just as had occurred a litle over a century earlier, when Judea was first conquered by the Empire) and put down increasing rioting by "armed dissidents" among the Jewish people. Rome, like any good Empire, thought first of preserving the "balance of power" in the global "commonwealth" it ruled and, like any good Empire, was committed to the "stability" which its fascist puppets guaranteed in its client-states, which of course provided all the economic resources the Empire required for the high standard of living enjoyed by Roman citizens everywhere. (Sound familiar?) Rome simply could not permit a kind of COUNTER-Empire --a RELIGIOUS State to which tens of millions of Jews throughout the Roman Empire might swear HIGHER allegience-- to come into being, at a time ironically coinciding with Roma's achievement of total hegemony in the Near East as well as in Europe. So, by the logic of "diplomacy" in ANY Empire, Rome needed to make an example of Judea for daring to question Roman authority, by destroying the freedom-loving SPIRIT of the Jews in every possible way -- by publicly "dethroning" the Jews' "all-powerful" God (by burning the Temple and urinating on the Holy of Holies), massacring the Jews' more revolutionary religious leaders, butchering millions of people in a show of Rome's military superiority, dispersing the Jews in wave after wave of refugees, and forbidding Jews from ever again setting foot in their own homeland. Standard "foreign policy," for the world's good, no? So, 2000 years after the crucifixion and reputed resurrection of the "Savior of mankind," what's changed? NOTHING. The "Empire" STILL rules, ABSOLUTELY -- after only a superficial change of clothing attendant on Constantine's adoption of the ROMANIZED "Christianity" of Paul as the "official STATE religion" -- the religion of a State that has never ceased to rule in ungodly tyrannical fashion, a religion based on "slave morality" and sanctifying, first and foremost, Obedience to the
[CTRL] The GREEK Bible Code (2/2) [repost]
-Caveat Lector- HEBREW AND GREEK ALPHANUMERIC CODES HEBREW GREEK NUMBER VALUE Note aleph alpha 1 beth beta 2 gimel gamma 3 dalethdelta 4 heepsilon5 vau --6*I zain zeta7 cheth eta8 teth theta 9 yodiota 10 kaph kappa20 lamedh lambda 30 mem mu 40 nun nu 50 samekh xi 60 ayin omicron 70 pe pi 80 tzadde -- 90*II qophrho 100 resh sigma 200 shin tau 300 tau upsilon 400 kaph FINAL phi 500 mem FINAL chi 600 nun FINAL psi 700 pe FINALomega 800 tzadde FINAL -- 900*III NOTES: [The Koine Greek alphabet had no letters for these numbers] *I - In Greek, letter "sigma" (S) at end of a word can equal 6 letters "sigma+tau" (ST) can equal 6 *II - In Greek, letter "omicron" (O) can equal 90 instead of 70 *III - [Alphabetic equivalent in Greek code undetermined] Additional rules used in the isopsephos code: (1) The number value of a single word can be increased or decreased only PLUS or MINUS 1: e.g., total = total +1 or -1 (2) In phrases, the combined number value of the words can be increased or decreased ONLY +1 or -1 times the number of words in a phrase: e.g., 3-word total can = total +3 or -3 (3) Number SUBSTITUTION: Some letters can have either of two alternative numerical equivalents: e.g., "o" may be read as 70 or as 90, "st" may be read as 200+300 = 500 or as = 6, and in RARE cases, "a" can be read not as 1 but as 1000 (4) GRAMMATICAL option: The personal article preceding a proper noun may be used or it may be omitted when totalling words in a phrase; The conjunction "and" may be dropped or included when totalling words used in a phrase; [Various other minor options, based on Greek grammar] --- EXAMPLES of Words Phrases in Canon Code Mark 1:4a: "John (the one) baptizing came into the desert" Egeneto came 438 Iwannhs John 1119 Baptizw one-baptizing 1250 en into55 th the 308 erhmw desert 953 (John + the Baptist = 1119 + 1250 (-1) = KEY NUMBER 2368 ) Mark 1:18: "And straightaway, leaving behind the nets, they followed him" kaiand 31 euthus straightaway1014 aphentesleaving1061 ta the 301 diktuanets 735 hkolouthhsan they followed 866 autw him1501 (they followed + him = 866 + 1501 (-1) = KEY NUMBER 2368) (grammatically understood to mean, "they were following him") John 11:43: "Having said this, he cried with a loud voice, 'Lazarus, come forth!'" kai and31 tauta this1002 eipwn having-said 945 phwnh a voice 1358 megalhloud 87 ekraugasen he cried 785 Lazare Lazarus 144 deuro come 579 echw out 865 (a voice + loud = 1358 + 87 (-1) = KEY NUMBER 1444) (come (ye) + forth = 579 + 865 = KEY NUMBER 1444) (Note that Lazarus = KEY NUMBER 144) *144 is the number associated with "the saved," "resurrected" John 2:9: "When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water- become-wine ..." ws when 1000 de -- 9 egeusato tasted 984 othe 70 architriklinostoastmaster 1501 to the 370 udwr water1304 oinon wine 250 gegenhmenon having-become289 (water + wine + become = 1304 + 250 + 289 = KEY NUMBER 1843) Luke 8:2:
[CTRL] Fw: Jim Keith: Conspiracy Writer Dies
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 4:54 AM Subject: Jim Keith I certainly don't think it was suspicious but a lot of people are hoping it was! Here's the rundown from Jim's nephew: _ From: "Michael Davis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: James Keith has passed away Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:28:18 -0700 Hello As some of you know James Keith broke his leg at Burning Man stepping off of a three foot stage. Thinking it was just a severe sprain he went home and tried to sleep it off. Realizing the next morning it was more he went to Washoe Medical and was to be treated for a broken knee. This was to involve surgery but was delayed to a problem with kidney function. I spoke with him during the afternoon on Tuesday and he was in good spirits but worried about the thought of being put under. His quote being "I have this feeling that if they put me under I'm not coming back" That night James went in for his surgery and around 8:10 PM a blood clot released from his leg and I believe went to his lung and he passed away. James leaves behind two daughters Aerika (13) and Verity (15). Plans are not finalized for services. But they will be sometime this weekend. Thanks again for the order! Ron Bonds At 09:23 PM 9/28/99 -0400, you wrote: Thanks for filling the order. Yes, right after the I made the order I found out that Jim Keith had passed away. I assume there was nothing suspicious? He seemed too young -Original Message- From: ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 12:29 PM Subject: Re: Purchase Order--Mothman Prophesies Yikes! You were really hard to findsomeone stole your old url? Hi Lloyd, we sold the name for MEGA bucks! So I changed it to illuminetpress.com. You should have been notified. Sorry if I slipped up. Will ship your books tomorrow. Did you hear about Jim Keith passing away? Ron Purchase Order 10-Mothman Prophesies Please ship and bill at best discount as per usual. Lloyd Miller *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** IllumiNet Press! P.O. Box 2808, Lilburn, Ga 30048 1.800.680.4638 UFOs, Conspiracy Theory, the Unexplained! Ask for our free catalog http://www.illuminetpress.com IllumiNet Press! P.O. Box 2808, Lilburn, Ga 30048 1.800.680.4638 UFOs, Conspiracy Theory, the Unexplained! Ask for our free catalog http://www.illuminetpress.com *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used
[CTRL] (Fwd) Individual Liberties
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: 29 Sep 1999 06:09:10 - To: List Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Privacy Concerns" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Individual Liberties Privacy Concerns - http://www.angelfire.com/biz/privacyconcerns/index.html To All Concerned With Individual Liberties, It should be clear by now that one waives their Constitutional "Protections" whenever they "voluntarily" utilize government services for "Privileges" or "Benefits" in which participation IS NOT mandatory under government's Constitutionally granted authority. This pretty much explains how government can operate in areas OUTSIDE of its Constitutional authority. There is nothing Unconstitutional about offering you a program which you may opt NOT to participate in. This also partly explains the income tax issue. If having a SSN is NOT mandatory, but voluntary, (Leaving the issue of disclosure aside for now) then the mere existence of a SSN in your name is evidence of your agreement to accept the "Privileges" and "Benefits" associated with this elective program. Having "volunteered" to participate, you become obligated to abide by every rule and regulation promulgated by the involved agencies, i.e. SSA IRS. (Don't you suppose that this is how the IRS can maintain that filing an income tax return is "Voluntary"?) More importantly, because you are participating "voluntarily" in a NON Mandatory program, there is no obligation on the agencies part to provide you with any Constitutional "Protections". You will find these legal concepts firmly etched in the LAW when you look in the right places! The real problem facing us is that the legal profession has been trained almost exclusively in administrative law which is 99.% of the law that is practiced today. The Constitution is NOT "Dead","Dormant", "Asleep", or anything else. It is simply a "tool" that is not being used because no one has the instruction manual anymore. What better way to eliminate the most troublesome freedom document the world has ever known; just don't show anyone in Law School how to use it while telling your students that there is no money in Constitutional Law. Find us an open-minded attorney with an interest in personal liberties and a desire to set things right, and we can obsolete groups like the NRA whose officers have apparently fallen victim to the same human frailties that are plaguing the entire "Patriot" Movement (or more accurately, Lack of Movement). It seems that many Publishers who, with good intentions worked hard to create an "Informative" product, have settled into the comfort of a "Revenue Stream" from a "Marketable" product and have forgotten why they got into the Patriot battle to begin with. These publishers seem to closed-mindedly and steadfastly protect their false or incomplete notions because the truth will obsolete their products and their low effort existence. I call this "The Entity Syndrome". It occurs whenever a group of people comes together for a purpose and grows to become a large unwieldy "Organization". Like all entities or life forms, its purpose becomes SURVIVAL and it forgets the original founders purpose (especially when the organization has employees making six digit incomes.) Just like the old adage, "When you're up to your ass in alligators, its hard to remember your original purpose was to drain the swamp." The problem with big organizations is exacerbated by that basic side of human nature that wants to survive by expending the least amount of energy. Thus, the officers settle into the comfort of the organization's revenue stream instead of solving the problem as the organization's entrepreneurial founder would have done!!! It is much easier to argue about why you are right than it is to go out and do the work required to rethink, research, and regain a correct conclusion that will actually solve the problem and MOVE the Movement in a "Forward" direction!!! While this is an op-ed of sorts, we are dead serious about possessing the understanding of the FUNDAMENTALS OF LAW that can actually solve the Constitutionally based problems that are Dividing those concerned with "Personal Liberties" instead of Uniting them. We also do not want to create any more martyrs than the movement already has created. No one has to go to jail or lose all of their property, fighting from an unwinable position. But, be aware, this battle can not be fought on a one-on-one personal basis. The Constitutional "Cases and Controversies" are there, just waiting, and believe it or not, so are the Courts. "Waiting for what?" you ask. Consider this quotation from the Courts concerning the "Function of the People" in our system of government. "It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error."
[CTRL] Died - Air Vice Marshal David Dick
-Caveat Lector- AIR VICE-MARSHAL DAVID DICK Air Vice Marshal David Dick, CB, CBE, AFC, Commandant of the Aeroplane and Armaments Experimental Establishments Boscombe Down, 1974-75, died on August 3 aged 75. He was born on January 7, 1924. AS A test pilot at the RAF's famous test flying establishment at Boscombe Down in Wiltshire in the 1950s, David Dick narrowly escaped with his life while test-flying a Gloster Javelin high above the South coast. Britain's first operational delta-winged jet aircraft and the first twin engined Delta aircraft in the world, the Javelin had been hailed as "the Flying Dart" when it made its first flight, late in 1951. It was also the RAF's first specifically designated "all-weather" jet fighter and its success was regarded as vital in giving the country safety against enemy intruders by day and night. But, like many of the aircraft which were built as fighter designs for the RAF in the transonic period of the early 1950s, (the Supermarine Swift for example was a complete failure) the Javelin continued to confront its pilots with fiendish problems even after it had entered squadron service. The delta wing itself posed many aerodynamic conundrums. Early flights suffered from control surface vibrations and violent buffeting. The pilot of the prototype, Squadron Leader Waterton, had lost both elevators owing to violent flutter in 1952. but had managed to land the aircraft. His deputy at Glosters was not so lucky and had been killed when the third prototype crashed to earth in what was supposed to be a "stabilised stall". Several other Javelins were lost after that, with their pilots ejecting to safety. By the time, therefore, that David Dick took up a production Javelin from Boscombe Down on a day in 1957, pilots had come to regard the air craft as a somewhat unpredictable beast. At 40,000ft over the English Channel, his Javelin went into a flat spin, and thereafter defied all his at tempts to bring it under control. In spite of deploying all his proven flying skills as a crack test pilot of Boscombe Down's A Squadron, Dick was simply unable to stabilise the aircraft or prevent the "angels" unwinding alarmingly on his altimeter. Eventually, he was forced to eject from the aircraft at 8,000ft, parachuted down to the water and was picked up from the Solent by, helicopter. Meanwhile, the Javelin crashed spectacularly on the Isle of Wight - a telegraph pole piercing its fuselage and providing a remarkable photograph for the press. Far from any blame being attached to Dick, the incident enhanced his reputation as a test pilot. His cool handling of the situation, during which he calmly reported every step on the flight recorder as his aircraft fell through thousands of feet, won him his Air Force Cross. The data he was able to provide enabled some further modifications to be made to the already much-modified Javelin airframe, while the tape of his comments was preserved, to form part of a lecture on test flying to the Royal Aeronautical Society. Dick's tour of duty in A Squadron (later renamed the Fast Jet Test Squadron) was the first of three postings to RAF Boscombe Down, reflecting his reputation not only as a pilot but as a specialist on aircraft development. Alan David Dick was born in British India, where his father was both Principal and Professor of Ophthalmology at the Medical School of the Punjab in Lahore. At the age of three, Dick was sent back to Britain and eventually to school at Fettes. But when the Second World War broke out his parents brought him back to school in Lahore. An accomplished skier and golfer, he also learnt to fly and on reaching the age of 18 he volunteered for the RAF and subsequently served in South East Asia Command, flying first Hurricanes then American-built Thunderbolt fighter-bombers on missions over the Burmese jungle in support of Slim's 14th Army. On being demobilised he attended a "crammer" in England to win himself a place at King's College, Cambridge, to read mechanical engineering. He also flew with the University Air Squadron and in 1950, deciding against a civilian career, rejoined the RAF. After three years as an instructor at the Central Flying School and a course at the Empire Test Pilots School, Farnborough, he went to Boscombe Down for the first of his three tours there, as a test pilot, from 1954 to 1957. He spent the next three years in the new Bloodhound missile base at North Coates, Lincolnshire, and then commanded 207 Squadron, flying Valiant bombers as part of Britain's nuclear strike force, at Marham, Norfolk, from 1961 to 1964. He returned to Boscombe Down as Superintendent of Flying,.1964-68. In 1974 he was back there as commandant. He retired in 1978 as deputy controller of aircraft in the Ministry of Defence's Procurement Executive. In retirement Dick worked for five difficult years as secretary of the British Association of Occupational Therapists. There, one of his tougher decisions was to close down
[CTRL] Al Fayed gives up Harrods dividend
-Caveat Lector- September 25 1999 BUSINESS NEWS http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Saturday-Times/timbizbiz01013.html?999 Al Fayed gives up Harrods dividend BY FRASER NELSON RETAIL CORRESPONDENT MOHAMED AL FAYED has turned down the chance to take money out of Harrods for the first time since he took over the Knightsbridge department store in 1994. The millionaire businessman, who has extracted £74 million in dividend payments from Harrods Holdings Plc over the past four years, decided against awarding himself a dividend for the year to January 1 after writedowns forced the company into a loss. It made a pre-tax loss of £8.5 million over the year against a £53 million profit last time - although gross profits fell only slightly to £232 million (£239 million). Simon Gettings, Harrods financial controller, said the results included all parts of the Harrods empire - including Harrods Bank, Harrods Aviation and a variety of investments. "We have taken a £30.1 million hit because we are a very clean company, and have responded to new accounting regulations," he said. "They in no way suggest that the Harrods store is doing badly or losing money. " He added that the store, which generates about 40 per cent of its business through selling to tourists, was now doing much better trade owing to an influx of affluent Americans. Harrods has a 28 per cent stake in Alpha Airports, which has seen its market value halve over the past 14 months. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BP is fined £4m over Alaska waste
-Caveat Lector- September 25 1999 BUSINESS NEWS http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Saturday-Times/timbizbiz01002.html?999 BP is fined £4m over Alaska waste BY PAUL ARMSTRONG BP AMOCO has been forced to make an embarrassing confession and pay penalties totalling $7 million (£4.3 million) over its disposal of hazardous waste on Alaska's North Slope. The petroleum group acknowledged that its methods for dealing with waste products at the Endicott oilfield between 1993 and 1995 were illegal and said it "deeply regretted" the move. As part of its out-of-court settlement with the US Justice Department, BP agreed to a five-year probation and the implementation of an environmental management system that would be monitored by a court-approved official. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Written by a 12 year-old in Boston:
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Written by a 12 year-old in Boston: Now I sit me down in school Where praying is against the rule. For this great nation under God Finds mention of Him very odd. If Scripture now the class recites It violates the Bill of Rights. Anytime my head I bow Becomes a federal matter now. The law is specific; the law is precise. Praying out loud is no longer nice. Praying aloud in a public hall Upsets those who believe in nothing at all. In silence alone we can meditate and if God should get the credit--great! They are bringing their guns, I don't dare bring my Bible, To do so might make me liable. So, now Oh Lord, this plea I make; Should I be shot in school, My soul please take. God Bless America! Whisper ...please? **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israel -- WANTED: Holy Blood
-Caveat Lector- At 11:28 AM 9-28-1999 +0200, you wrote: Mr David Goldstein a geneticist at oxford university talks about a 'cohen' genetic signature. About 45% of Askenazic priests and 56% of Sephardic priests have the 'cohen' signature. This shows the story of the Askhenazi being descendants of the Khazars as being incorrect (unless of course the Khazars were one of the lost ten tribes) Khazars may originally have been Edomites (or Hittites). Khazar tradition holds that they originally came from Mt. Seir in Edom. The Edomites were the ancient, major enemies of the Jews. John Hyrcanus' army defeated the neighboring Edomites and forced them all to *become* Jews (get circumcized or be killed) in 125 BC. The Edomites then practically took over Judea. The name 'Judea' was soon changed to 'Idumea' (Edom land). Their kings were the 'Jewish' Edomite Herodian dynasty (who built Herod's Temple). Many (or most?) Jewish Pharisees (not Saducees) were Edomite Jews. The Pharisees took over and put the Saducees out of business. The Jewish Encyclopedia says 'Edom is in modern Jewry.' (Many parts of the Bible are devoted to cursing all Edomites to death, including the entire Jewish book of Obadiah. Ban that bad book?) John As an aside, other gentic test appear to show that the Jews are more closely related to the armenians rather than the semites. The Book of the Prophet Ezekiel, from about 500 B.C.: 16:1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 16:2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations, 16:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite. WHO ARE THE MODERN JEWS? By Scott Stinson http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/hittites.htm In this age of brain-dead media programmed zombies, would it still be possible for the facts to speak? If so, there is something worth saying about the modern "Jewish" race, not written by anti-semites, but by Jews themselves -- and where else but in The Jewish Encyclopedia! Please excuse me for being so abrupt, but I had to get your attention. You see, this article is worth reading because it has some facts that you need to know about the authenticity of today's Jewish race. The question that must be asked as well as answered is simple: Are the modern Jews really the descendants of the ancient people of Israel? The source of our information is also quite simple: The Jewish Encyclopedia. Hopefully we will not find any anti-Semitism in the writings of these Jewish scholars. However, the reader should be forewarned. Their articles were written long before the age of mass-media social engineering and do not contain any of the familiar buzz-words common to today's new views. In other words, brace yourself for a factual scientific analysis of the racial origins of the modern Jews. Oh, and should you decide to verify any of these facts, you will find them in your local library in the 1901-1905 edition of The Jewish Encyclopedia. So, please, do read on. At the turn of the last century there was great interest stirring in the science of anthropology. In the wake of this, Jewish scholarship turned its watchful eye upon itself and began to examine the racial claims that modern Jews make to the ancestral heritage of ancient Israel. The results were startling. The religious community found itself completely alienated by its scientific counterpart. The scientific method was coming face to face with religious traditions and there was a great unsettling in the land. The facts were telling a different story than what had been heard for centuries in the local synagogue. In his article on Purity of Race, Joseph Jacobs relates something of the dilemma that was gripping the Jewish community at this time. He writes: "The question whether the Jews of today are in the main descended from the Jews of Bible times, and from them alone, is still undecided" (Jew. Enc. X (1905), 283). What a startling statement to come from a Jewish scholar and to be printed in The Jewish Encyclopedia! However, scholarship must have its reasons. Let us look further to see what the scientific community had discovered that would warrant such a radical and perplexing statement. In his article on Purity of Race, Jacobs gives several important facts that were forcing anthropologists of his day to reconsider the modern Jew's racial claims to be Biblical Israel. In the study of craniometry which involves the measurements of the skull, the evidence was clearly mounting against the modern Jews. After extensive samples were taken from a broad spectrum of Jewish groups world-wide. The conclusion was evident. Jacobs writes; "They are predominantly brachycephalic, or broad-headed, while the Semites of Arabic origin are
[CTRL] MORE CANADIANS ON HOSPITAL WAITING LISTS IN 1998
MORE CANADIANS ON HOSPITAL WAITING LISTS IN 1998 The Fraser Institute's annual survey, Waiting Your Turn: Hospital Waiting Lists in Canada, has found that more Canadians were waiting to receive medical treatment in 1998 than in 1997. Queues for visits to specialists and for diagnostic and surgical procedures reflect health care rationing under Canada's national health system. According to the study, 212,990 Canadians were on hospital waiting lists for surgical procedures, a 13 percent increase from the 1997 estimate of 187,799. Patients were also waiting longer to receive treatment: o Patients waited an average (median) of 6.0 weeks after referral by a General Practitioner for a consultation with a specialist (see figure http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/media/media_releases/1999/wyt/chart2.html ). o Then they waited another 7.3 weeks after the consultation to actually receive treatment (see figure http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/media/media_releases/1999/wyt/chart3.html ). o The total average waiting time in 1998 was 13.3 weeks -- up from 11.9 weeks in 1997, and up a dramatic 43 percent since 1993, when the total waiting time for Canadians to receive treatment was 9.3 weeks. The total wait in 1998 varied widely according to where Canadians live: from 11.9 weeks in the provinces of Ontario, Quebec and Nova Scotia, to 20.2 weeks in Saskatchewan. The survey also measured what specialists consider to be clinically reasonable lengths of time to wait for surgical procedures. For Canada as a whole, and across all specialties, actual waiting time exceeded what specialists consider to be reasonable for all specialties except medical oncology. Waiting times also increased for various diagnostic technologies such computerized tomography (CT) scans, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) and ultrasound. Source: Michael Walker and Martin Zelder, Waiting Your Turn: Hospital Waiting Lists in Canada (9th edition), Critical Issues Bulletin, 1999, Fraser Institute, 4th Floor, 1770 Burrard Street, Vancouver, B.C. V6J 3G7, Canada, (604) 688-0221. Full text http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/publications/critical_issues/1999/waiting_your _turn/ For more on Health issues http://www.ncpa.org/pi/health/hedex1.html
[CTRL] Serbian bastard slays loving family pet.
-Caveat Lector- === The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU ALBANIAN TERRORISTS BURNED ALIVE A SIX MONTHS OLD BABY PRIZREN, September 25 (Tanjug) - A six months old Serbian baby from Prizren, was first kidnapped by ethnic Albanian terrorists, and then burned alive, Tanjug has learned from the Center for Peace and Tolerance in that town. The baby's "fault" was that its Serbian mother, Dragana Mladenovic, had refused to leave Prizren. Media: === ... Two young boys were playing street hockey in Toronto. A rabid pit bull came out of nowhere and began to attack one of the boys. Without hesitation, his friend grabbed his hockey stick, hooked it into the dog's collar and twisted with all his might breaking the pit bull's neck instantly. A reporter showed up and interviewed the hero and began to write his headline: "Leaf fan saves his friend by heroically killing rabid pit bull". The boy seeing this says, "Its OK but I'm not a Toronto Maple Leaf fan". The reporter thinks this is strange but rewrites his headline: "Blue Jay fan saves best buddy from the jaws of a mad dog". The boy again pipes up and says, "Its OK but I'm not a Blue Jays fan either". The reporter is confused now and says to the boy, "Well, if you aren't a Leaf fan, and your not a Blue Jays fan, what are ya?" The boy replies "I'm a Red Star Belgrade fan". The reporter's headline appears in the paper the next day: "Serbian bastard slays loving family pet." -Original Message- Subject: SN596:Psi heroji i Srbi pljackasi The plain Dealer september 29, 1999 * CANINE WAR HEROES Two Kosovar dogs who were shot several times while defending their owner's farm from Serbian paramilitaries heve been described as heroes by the World Society for Protection of Animals a British charity. The dogs Sari and Cuba, were left behind when their owner Nizajo Buduri was forced to flee his farm near the town of Prizren in Kosovo during the height of the conflict. His loyal pets stayed to gard the house, refusing to leave when paramilitaries came to loot it. An elderly neigbor told how Sari was shot six times, but still found the strength to bite the attacker. Cuba also suffered from gunshot wounds. Miraculously, both dogs have made recovery following extensive treatment by local vets operating with supplies of veterinary medicine delivered to Kosovo by WSPA. * Editor Doug Clifton; responsible for all news and feature content (216) 999 4123, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Secretary General Mrs. Jela Jovanovic Art historian === DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990929a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No saintly relics were exhumed during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Love me: http://www.randomhouse.com/features/emailthisbook/961122.gif _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Vanishing Mars craft mystery. (Times) IS Mars the Bermuda Triangle of the solar system? The disappearance of the £75 million Mars Climate Orbiter has reinforced the red planet's reputation as a spacecraft gobbler. Hard- ware worth billions bound for Mars has either lost contact with Earth, crashed, disappeared or failed to get off the launch pad. Course, or...?? www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Saturday-Times/timnwsnws01021.html?999 : Have your people (or whatever) set up a protective field around Mars to prevent hu-mans from inquiring too closely? What are you trying to hide?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Christian dieters seeking divine help - bring God, prayer into weight-loss plan. MILWAUKEE (AP) Some overweight Christians are working on the theory that they can slim down by upgrading their relationship with God. "If I'm accountable to a counselor at Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers, I can blow them off. But if I'm accountable to God, that's an en-tirely different story." http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,115010792,00.html : Have you lost any weight lately, or do you know exactly where it went? Did any deities help you? Are your deities fat pigs too? Is Satan thin, svelte? Who are your favorite sexy deities? Do they make you control yourself? How? $ Brain http://edgeco.com/cgi-bin/catalog/BRN-400?kmKWRdUo;;20 in a tank! Thing http://www.traipse.com/thing_in_a_jar/ in a jar! Weird stuff in glass to impress your friends and make them worry about you! _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The Summa Theologica http://www.newadvent.org/summa is St. Thomas Aquinas' http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14663b.htm primary work, the center of Catholic theology, and one of the most important books in the history of Western Civilization. Questions ranging from does God exist? http://www.newadvent.org/summa/100203.htm to, do angels eat? http://www.newadvent.org/summa/105103.htm to, certain Viagra- oriented questions. http://www.newadvent.org/summa/505801.htm : Are questions re: deities, angels, spirits et al, objectively answerable? What do the questions answers tell you about the speakers/writers? Are all questions meaningful? Are all answers rational? Is there a bug up your ass? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Sikh is arrested for carrying ceremonial knife. MENTOR, Ohio (AP) - When he was baptized a Sikh in India, Gurbachan Singh Bhatia, now 69, vowed to always wear a kirpan, a 6-inch knife symbolizing his willingness to defend the faith. But during investigation of a minor traffic mishap, Bhatia was arrested for carrying a concealed weapon. At the time, he was returning home from a religious ceremony blessing the new home of a Sikh family. "We don't want to prosecute anyone for exercising religious freedom." http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,115010786,00.html : Does your religion require you to carry weapons? Does your faith mandate knives, swords, shotguns, nerve gas, tactical nukes? Does religious freedom immunize you against weapons laws? Who do you bless with your weaponry??? @ Escaping "Social" Reality - Principles of a Higher Civilization: http://www.butterfly.net/henryflynt/escreal.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ $ Shuttle DISTRESS for sale: http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/1998/Ptksr98/02ShuttleDistressFront.jpg http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/1998/Ptksr98/01ShuttleDistressRear.jpg http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/1998/Ptksr98/05ShuttleDistressSide.jpg http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/1998/Ptksr98/07ShuttleDistressWater.jpg http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/1998/Ptksr98/08ShuttleMud.jpg http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/1998/Ptksr98/08ShuttlePassenger.jpg : Have you ever propelled a human-powered vehicle? Are you human? Would you prefer a non-human to propel you vehicle? Do the voices in your head insist? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Whitley Strieber Rallies UFO Faithful, Rails Against 'Denial'. After being honored as "UFOlogist of the Year" at this year's National UFO Conference, horror novelist / contactee Whitley Strieber took advantage of the spotlight to berate unbelievers and captivate an audience of UFO faithful. http://www.space.com:80/area51/strieber_990928.html : Are you faithful, captivated, spotlighted, returned? Do you deny the awful reality of alien abduction/experimentation/impregnation? Are you a hybrid?? @ Objectivism explained: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~andrej/objectivism/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Security experts warn of massive hack attack. Covert monitoring software sold in the US could give hackers an easy route to stealing
[CTRL] police tactics...... (humor?)
-Caveat Lector- The LAPD, the FBI, the CIA are all trying to prove that they are the best at apprehending criminals. The President decides to give them a test. He releases a rabbit into a forest and each of them has to catch it. The CIA goes in. They place animal informants throughout the forest. They question all plant and mineral witnesses. After three months of extensive investigations, they conclude that rabbits do not exist. The FBI goes in. After two weeks with no leads they burn the forest, killing everything in it, including the rabbit and they make no apologies. The rabbit had it coming. The LAPD goes in. They come out two hours later with a badly beaten bear. The bear is crying, "Okay, okay! I'm a rabbit, I'm a rabbit." || In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. || http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/thirdeye.html || __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Police Can't Require ID [1979 Supreme Court Decision]
-Caveat Lector- http://www-douzzer.ai.mit.edu:8080/revolution/legal/police/brownvtx.html Police Can't Require ID From Schirado ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): In response to Jeff Chan's horror about the California Supreme Court's recent idiocy regarding identification, I offer the following federal Supreme Court case. Federal beats State every time, when the subject matter is the derogation of rights secured by the Constitution. Brown v. Texas,443 U.S. 47 (1979): "Two police officers, while cruising near noon in a patrol car, observed appellant and another man walking away from one another in an alley in an area that had a high incidence of drug traffic. They stopped and asked appellant to identify himself and explain what he was doing. One officer testified that he stopped appellant because the situation 'looked suspicious and we had never seen that subject in that area before.' The officers did not claim to suspect appellant of any specific misconduct, nor did they have any reason to believe that he was armed. When appellant refused to identify himself, he was arrested for violation of a Texas statute which makes it a criminal act for a person to refuse to give his name and address to an officer 'who has lawfully stopped him and requested the information.' Appellant's motion to set aside information charging him with violation of the statute on the ground that the statute violated the First, Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth amendments was denied, and he was convicted and fined." "HELD: The application of the Texas statute to detain appellant and require him to identify himself violated the Fourth Amendment because the officers lacked any reasonable suspicion to believe that appellant was engaged or had engaged in criminal conduct. Detaining appellant to require him to identify himself constituted a seizure of his person subject to the requirement of the Fourth Amendment that the seizure be 'reasonable.' Cf. Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1; ... Delaware v. Prouse, 440 U.S. 648. Here, the state does not contend that appellant was stopped pursuant to a practice embodying neutral criteria, and the officer's actions were not justified on the ground that they had a reasonable suspicion, based on objective facts, that he was involved in criminal activity. Absent any basis for suspecting appellant of misconduct, the balance between the public interest in crime prevention and appellant's right to personal security and privacy tilts in favor of freedom from police interference. Pp. 50-53. - Mr. Chief Justice Burger delivered the opinion of the court. - "This appeal presents the question whether appellant was validly convicted for refusing to comply with a policeman's demand that he identify himself pursuant to a provision of the Texas Penal Code which makes it a crime to refuse such identification on request." - "Appellant refused to identify himself and angrily asserted that the officers had no right to stop him." - "The Fourth Amendment, of course, 'applies to all seizures of the person, including seizures that involve only a brief detention short of traditional arrest. Davis v. Mississippi, 394 U.S. 721 (1969); Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, 16-19 (1968). '[W]henever a police officer accosts an individual and restrains his freedom to walk away, he has 'seized' that person...and the fourth Amendment requires that the seizure be 'reasonable' U.S. v. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U.S. 873, 878 (1975)" - "We need not decide whether an individual may be punished for refusing to identify himself in the context of a lawful investigatory stop which satisfies Fourth Amendment requirements. See Dunaway v. New York, 442 U.S. 200,210 n.12 (1979); Terry v. Ohio ... the county judge who convicted appellant was troubled by this question, as shown by the colloquy set out in the appendix to this opinion." - "Accordingly, appellant may not be punished for refusing to identify himself, and the conviction is Reversed." "APPENDIX TO THE OPINION OF THE COURT "THE COURT:...What do you think about if you stop a person lawfully, and then if he doesn't want to talk to you, you put him in jail for committing a crime?" "MR. PATTON [prosecutor]: Well first of all, I would question the defendant's statement in his motion that the first amendment gives an individual the right to silence." "THE COURT:...I'm asking you why should the State put you in jail because you don't want to say anything?" "MR. PATTON: Well, I think there's certain interests that have to be viewed." "THE COURT: Okay, I'd like you to tell me what those are." "MR. PATTON: Well, the Governmental interest to maintain the safety and security of the society and the citizens to live in the society, and there are certainly strong Governmental interests in that direction and because of that, these interests outweigh the interests of an individual for a certain amount of intrusion upon his personal liberty. I think these Governmental interests outweigh the individual's interests in this respect, as
[CTRL] Jurors' Handbook
-Caveat Lector- http://www.deoxy.org/juryrite.htm Jurors' Handbook A Citizens Guide to Jury Duty Did you know that you qualify for another, much more powerful vote than the one which you cast on election day? This opportunity comes when you are selected for jury duty, a position of honor for over 700 years. The principle of a Common Law Jury or Jury of your Peers was first established on June 15, 1215 at Runnymede, England when King John signed the Magna Carta, or Great Charter of our Liberties. It created the basis for our Constitutional, system of Justice. Jury Power in the System of Checks and Balances In a Constitutional system of justice, such as ours, there is a judicial body with more power than Congress, the President, or even the Supreme Court. Yes, the jury of your peers protected under our Constitution has more power than all these government officials. This is because they have the final veto power over all "acts of the legislature" that may come to be called "laws." In fact, the power of jury nullification predates our Constitution. In November of 1734, a printer named John Peter Zenger was arrested for seditious libel against his Majesty's government. At that time, a law of the Colony of New York forbid any publication without prior government approval. Freedom of the press was not enjoyed by the early colonialists! Zenger, however, defied this censorship and published articles strongly critical of New York colonial rule. When brought to trial in August of 1735, Zenger admitted publishing the offending articles, but argued that the truth of the facts stated justified their publication. The judge instructed the jury that truth is not justification for libel. Rather, truth makes the libel more vicious, for public unrest is more likely to follow true, rather than false claims of bad governance. And since the defendant had admitted to the "fact" of publication, only a question of "law" remained. Then, as now, the judge said the "issue of law" was for the court to determine, and he instructed the jury to find the defendant guilty. It took only ten minutes for the jury to disregard the judge's instructions on the law and find Zenger NOT GUILTY. That is the power of the jury at work; the power to decide the issues of law under which the defendant is charged, as well as the facts. In our system of checks and balances, the jury is our final check, the people's last safegard against unjust law and tyranny. A Jury's Rights, Powers, and Duties But does the jury's power to veto bad laws exist under our Constitution? It certainly does! In the February term of 1794, the Supreme Court conducted a jury trial in the case of the State of Georgia vs. Brailsford (3 Dall 1). The instructions to the jury in the first jury trial before the Supreme Court of the United States illustrate the true power of the jury. Chief Justice John Jay said: "It is presumed, that juries are the best judges of facts; it is, on the other hand, presumed that courts are the best judges of law. But still both objects are within your power of decision." (emphasis added) "...you have a right to take it upon yourselves to judge of both, and to determine the law as well as the fact in controversy". So you see, in an American courtroom there are in a sense twelve judges in attendance, not just one. And they are there with the power to review the "law" as well as the "facts!" Actually, the "judge" is there to conduct the proceedings in an orderly fashion and maintain the safety of all parties involved. As recently as 1972, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia said that the jury has an "unreviewable and unreversible power... to acquit in disregard of the instructions on the law given by the trial judge..." (US vs Dougherty, 473 F 2d 1113, 1139 (1972)) Or as this same truth was stated in a earlier decision by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Maryland: "We recognize, as appellants urge, the undisputed power of the jury to acquit, even if its verdict is contrary to the law as given by the judge, and contrary to the evidence. This is a power that must exist as long as we adhere to the general verdict in criminal cases, for the courts cannot search the minds of the jurors to find the basis upon which they judge. If the jury feels that the law under which the defendant is accused, is unjust, or that exigent circumstances justified the actions of the accused, or for any reason which appeals to their logic of passion, the jury has the power to acquit, and the courts must abide by that decision." (US vs Moylan, 417 F 2d 1002, 1006 (1969)). YOU, as a juror armed with the knowledge of the purpose of a jury trial, and the knowledge of what your Rights, powers, and duties really are, can with your single vote of not guilty nullify or invalidate any law involved in that case. Because a jury's guilty decision must be unanimous, it takes only one vote to effectively nullify a bad "act of the legislature." Your one
[CTRL] Seizing The Media
-Caveat Lector- http://www.deoxy.org/seize_it.htm Seizing The Media The Immediast Underground Pamphlet Series Spring 1992 Immediast International - New York City / Amsterdam / Seattle Version 1.1 N © Copyright; 1992. Public Domain. SEIZING THE MEDIA is a work in progress. The version that you are holding is the second to circulate. As Immediast thinking and strategy develops, this leaflet will grow and change, and new versions will circulate. IMMEDIAST projects are against all forms of coercive communication, cultural monologue and media control. We acknowledge non-violent public insurgence as a legitimate response to sustained violations by media and state. We recognize the air as public property, and the signals that travel through it to be the domain of the public. Version 1.1 was first released in New York City March 1992 - 320 Copies Version 1.0 was first released in Amsterdam January 1992 - 250 Copies 2nd print Run of Version 1.1 April 1992 - 1000 Copies Open Media PO Box 2726 Westfield NJ 07091 Hypertexture by dimitri Seizing the Media Asian philosophy instructs enlightenment. But given our daily exposure to a barrage of persuasive messages, monologues, sales pitches, come-ons, and uninformative hyper-sensational news, common sense and intimacy are tough enough a struggle to maintain. We can each see how extended exposure to television and mass media dulls people with a sense of numbness and nausea. From every public space a monologue of coercion penetrates our senses and rapes our attention. Wherever we look, wherever we listen, wherever we go: the pornography of billboards, bus side placards, subway cards, glaring storefront signs and displays, the glut of junk mail, stupid fly-by beach planes and blimps, coupons, obnoxious bumper stickers and breast pins, embarrassing service forms, plastic banners and ribbons, absurd parades, street-corner handouts, windsheild wiper flyers, matchbook ads, business cards, screaming radios, the daily papers, every nanosecond of television, the package wrapped around everything we buy - from the label in our underwear to the robot computer that calls us in our homes - only the upper atmosphere and the ocean floor offer any sanctuary from America's ecology of coercion. At every turn the monologues drone on, imbedding the psychological mutagens that coax us to become pathetic customers and unquestioning flag wavers. At every turn we are under subtle attack. The media serve the interests of the State and other corporations, but never the interests of the public. The media's screen of agression and seduction is designed to mesmerize and captivate the largest possible sector of population whose attention is then sold like scrap metal to advertisers and gang raped by their slogans, jingles, and manic images. Protected by an uncrossable media moat, agents of the State profit from war and relax behind a web of information laws, censorship powers, and vapid explanations that swat the public of detailed intelligence and mass resistance. So long as we do not control our own government, our own state, and our own broadcast media - the mirror with which we reflect on the reality of lives - we will continue to be forced to see fun-house mirror distortions of ourselves projected onto a dumpster of products that promise to make us each desirable, sophisticated, and correct. At every turn we are under attack. Incest Of Corporations And The State The State controls information, debt, and violence and targets collective identity. Corporations control commodification, work, and media and target individual identity. Both deploy the same psychological strategies for imbedding the public with their messages and directives. Never were their common strategies more transparent than when US disinformation and propaganga service, the infamous USIA, decided to step-up its psy-warfare campaign against the people of Cuba in the Spring of 1989. Until then, attempts to psychologically destabalize the Cuban people were comcentrated in the broadcasts of Radio Marti, the Florida based, Government owned pirate radio station that to this day illegally transmits propaganda and disinformation into domestic Cuban radios. In the Spring of 1989, the USIA added images to their psy-war arsenal and began transmitting tele-broadcasts from a hot air balloon controlled from the Key West signals station. Sibling of Radio Marti, the project was dubbed TV Marti. A few things are to be held in mind here. First, after the Creel Commission saturated Americans with pro-war propaganda during WWI, the level of public disgust was so intense that laws were enacted forbidding the State from ever subjecting the public to its propaganda again. Thus, the USIA's Voice of America propaganda broadcasts that we can hear today in Amsterdam, Berlin, and Prague, we are protected against hearing here on our own turf. Propaganda is so disorienting and confusing that Americans have actually passed laws forbidding it here in its
[CTRL] Seed Companies Hauled Into Court
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Winkel) To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: TRADE: Seed Companies Hauled Into Court Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:00:16 -0500 (CDT) /** ips.english: 472.0 **/ ** Topic: TRADE: Seed Companies Hauled Into Court ** ** Written 9:07 PM Sep 24, 1999 by newsdesk in cdp:ips.english ** Copyright 1999 InterPress Service, all rights reserved. Worldwide distribution via the APC networks. *** 24-Sep-99 *** Title: TRADE: Seed Companies Hauled Into Court By Mario Osava and Gumisai Mutume MEXICO CITY (IPS), Sep 24 - Activists from 30 countries have taken action against the world's biggest life science companies by taking them to court over the question of genetically-modified food which, they say, represents an attempt to free agriculture from the control of a few. "The action reflects humanity's growing pre-occupation with its future," says professor Sebastian Pinheiro of the Federal University of Rio Grande in Brazil. "Genetically-modified crops represent an economic threat to agriculture and put humanity's survival at risk." Spearheading the drive against big business is US biotechnology activist and head of the Foundation on Economic Trends, Jeremy Rifkin. He is leading a campaign that will see activists and farmers from Asia, Europe, North America and Latin America challenge the power of the world's most dominant genetic food engines later this year. "Transnational companies such as Monsanto and Dupont are not worried by world hunger or the quality of life of the rest of humanity. They want power, to dominate the politics of food and are merely driven by commercial interests," says Pinheiro. "When the lawsuit gets underway either in the United States or a foreign court it is billed to become the biggest anti-trust action in the world with the exception of the Microsoft case." The activists claim that the likes of Monsanto, DuPont, Pioneer Hi-Bred, and Novartis are exploiting bio-technology unfairly and in such a way that they gain control of global agricultural markets. Modified crops are protected by patents and contracts. Farmers who plant them must promise not to keep seeds for future use. Using new bio-technologies the big corporations are attempting to extend control to the 45 percent of the world economy that is based on biological products by using a patent system designed for machines and making it work with plants and animals, activists say. Monsanto, dubbed the "Microsoft of micro-biology", together with other seed companies also is developing ways to genetically alter plants so they do not produce usable seeds. This could force farmers to buy seeds year after year and give these companies power to dictate the future of plant breeding, activists say. "A central concern will be that, throughout the history of civilization, farmers have been able to grow food and sow their own fields with their own seeds. These companies are trying to change that," declared US attorney Rich Lewis, one of the many lawyers involved in the case. Law firms, operating on a no-win-no-fee basis, are looking for some provision of anti-trust or contract law that would let Rifkin challenge the seed restrictions in a state, federal or foreign court. Agricultural analysts say that a few big corporations now own 30 percent of the global trade in seed, valued at 23 billion dollars annually - roughly the gross domestic product of Vietnam. Five of these companies Monsanto, Novartis, AstraZeneca, Aventis and DuPont virtually control the entire genetically modified crops sector, analysts say. When Monsanto last year bought the seed operations of Cargill in Africa, Asia, Latin America and Europe for 1.4 billion dollars it gained control of seed research and production centres in 24 countries and distribution systems in more than 50 others. The law-suit comes at a time when there is growing concern over the implications of genetically modified crops and resistance from certain economic blocs such as the European Union towards the consumption and import of such crops. Developing countries have adopted differing positions to genetic crops, some such as Argentina and Mexico embracing the technology while others especially in Africa hesitant about the safety of the science. In India, Vandana Shiva of the Research Foundation for Science Technology and Ecology (RFSTE) says the anti-trust action would be a useful addition to local campaigns like the "Monsanto Quit India" movement which is over a year old. However, by itself the action would not be able to do more than create awareness among farmers who are targets of Monsanto and Cargill. RFTSE is one of several pressure groups that challenged India's new patent act in the country's supreme court earlier this year. The act grants monopolies and marketing rights to drug and agro- chemical transnationals. Hundreds of cotton farmers in India's southern Andhra
[CTRL] Tax Resister Beats IRS
-Caveat Lector- http://www-douzzer.ai.mit.edu:8080/revolution/commerce/taxes/long.html Tax Resister Beats IRS Lloyd L. Long believes that the income tax is voluntary and refuses to pay it. The IRS took him to court and lost. As reported by Bill Keller in January 1994 in the Chattanooga, Tennessee Independence News Opinion, and by Lamarr Hardy in the Boise, Idaho-based Alert, Long was defended by attorneys Lowell Becraft of Huntsville, Alabama and Russell J. Leonard of Sewanee, Tennesee. Long testified that, based on his study of the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26), he believes the income tax is an excise tax applicable only to certain persons, and not the majority of citizens (including himself). Long says Internal Revenue Code Sections 1441-1443 applies the income tax only to nonresident aliens and U.S. citizens living abroad in a country where a tax treaty exists with the United States. U.S. Attorney Curtis Collier, representing the Internal Revenue Service, took a different view. The IRS prosecuted Long for willfully failing to file tax returns for 1989 and 1990 as "required by law." Long admitted he had income in excess of $49,000 in each of those years and that he did not file a return. Alert described the defense's evidence that he was not required to do so: Defense testimony showed a case titled Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railroad wherein it was the unanimous decision of the U.S. Supreme Court that the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution did not give Congress any new power to tax any new subjects; it merely tried to simplify the way in which the tax was imposed. The ruling also showed that the income tax was, in fact, an excise tax on corporate privileges and privileged occupations. The defense then brought out a case entitled Flint v. Stone Tracy Co. wherein an excise tax was defined as being a tax laid upon the manufacture, sale and consumption of commodities within the country; upon licenses to pursue certain occupations; and upon corporate privileges. Long's attorneys also brought out a case entitled Simins v. Arehns wherein the court ruled that the income tax was neither a property tax nor a tax upon occupations of common right, but was an excise tax. Next the defense turned to the case of Redfield v. Fisher. In this instance, the court ruled that an individual, unlike the corporation, cannot be taxed for the mere privilege of existing, but that the individual's right to live and own property was a natural right upon which an excise cannot be imposed. Defense also pointed to several studies done by the Congressional Research Service showing the income tax is an excise. A Tennessee Supreme Court case, Jack Cole v. Commissioner, provided the fifth defense argument. Here, the court ruled that citizens are entitled by right to income or earnings and that right could not be taxed as a privilege. Finally, Long's legal team pointed to another Tennessee Supreme Court case, Corn v. Fort, in which the court ruled that individuals have a right to combine their activities as partnerships; and that this is a natural right, independent and antecedent of government. The defense presented additional arguments that the IRS knew no one was liable for the income tax. Other IRS-administered taxes, such as the alcohol tax, are very clearly worded as to who is liable. The IRS' Mission Statement states that the income tax relies on "voluntary compliance." Long had built a paper trail in his defense before the trial. He had written letters asking the IRS direct questions such as, "Am I required to file federal income tax returns?" and "Am I liable for federal income taxes?" The IRS never directly answered Long's questions, at which point Long stopped filing tax returns. The jury found Long not guilty on all counts. The Research Foundation provides information to individuals who want to challenge the IRS. Write to Lamarr Hardy, Executive Director, The Research Foundation, POB 29265, Honolulu, HI 96720. This was Case Number CR-1-03-91, U.S. v. Lloyd Long, filed in U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Tennessee, October 15, 1993. || In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. || http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/thirdeye.html || __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used
[CTRL] Fwd: Global JAM ECHELON Day [Oct. 21]
-Caveat Lector- http://www.wodip.opole.pl/~laslo/Echelon-links.html STAND UP FOR THE FREEDOM TO EXCHANGE INFORMATION! We the monitored have decided to stand up against the very real, very intrusive, and ultimately oppressive global surveillance system known as Echelon. Echelon is a vast mainframe set up by the New World Disorder in order to monitor the world's electronic communications for subversive keywords. Every time you send someone an email with keywords like "revolution" and "hacktivism" [for instance], Echelon's computers make a note of it. If you forward emails with regularity with words on Echelon's extensive keyword list, you may be marked for human "hands-on" monitoring. On October 21, 1999 , netizens around the globe are implored to send out at least one email with at least 50 keyword words. You need not be privy to knowing exactly what words Echelon uses. It is safe to assume that words such as "revolution" and "manifesto" and "revolt" [etc.] will work. Just be sure to sound as subversive as possible. There isn't even any need to write a cohesive paragraph or sentence. Echelon's computers does not understand the language anyway. It only knows to look for certain words. By doing this we can at least temporarily jam the global surveillance system. This day of action will be timed to preceed Stop Police Brutality Day by one day so that emails about actions can be sent out with little scrutiny due to what will already be an enormous workload for Echelon. Now is a chance for anyone, regardless of computer expertise, to become an instant hacktivist - best of all, no software is needed [other than your regular email program]. Of course, feel free to conduct such subversiveness any time. The larger Echelon's workload, the more free our speech. After October 1, we ask global netizens to merely stop censoring themselves for fear of spooky scrutiny. By merely deciding to speak in the spirit of unabashedly subverting the DOMINANCE paradigm, we will make it quite difficult for Echelon to do its job. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990929b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No social realities were transcended during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The photomicroscopy of cocktails: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/cocktails/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CAN YOU SEE THRU THIS FENG SHUI GIMMICK - EYE SHADOW? The latest gimmick based on the Chinese philosophy of feng shui - the positioning of objects for optimum energy flow - is eye shadow. The colors are intended to have certain effects on your life. Which color, do you suppose, helps you avoid scams? http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=17758 : Do you carefully arrange objects in/on/around your head? Are your energy flows optimized? Have you made any mistakes? Did your head blow up? When?? @ WILL FLEAS FLEE GOOD VIBES? We've tried zapping insects with ultrasound it doesn't work. There is no such thing as a machine to get rid of fleas. Ugh. http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=17739 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # GROUND BROKEN FOR AMERICAN INDIAN MUSEUM. With songs ritual offerings of earth, water and tobacco, Native Americans gathered to bless the start of a US$100-mln monument to their nearly vanished culture(s). Tribal leaders joined Smithsonian execs in a long-delayed groundbreaking for the National Museum of the American Indian. "500 years of tragedy" - more to come: http://cnn.com/TRAVEL/NEWS/9909/28/native.american.museum.02/index.html : After your cultures have been destroyed, lampooned, trivialized, can they safely be commemorated? Has your culture been stomped? Have your people been converted to a 'mainstream' belief system? Do you drink a lot? Is hope gone? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # GOLD PRICES DROP BACK. Gold prices dipped Wednesday as a two-day rally on news European central banks would curtail bullion sales ran out of steam. In early European trade, gold fell to $298.30, sharply down from New York's close of $308.50 and its heady $327.30 overnight peak, the metal's highest level since October 1997. Gold jumped 22 percent in two sessions: http://cnnfn.com/1999/09/29/news/wires/gold_wg/ : Has y'r conspiracy to manipulate gold prices failed? Will you suicide now? @ Survival Research Labs http://www.srl.org/ has the ritualized interactions between machines robots special effects devices that you secretly crave. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # MS: BAD SECURITY OR BAD PRESS? Microsoft has garnered a lot of bad press lately over security flaws in Internet Explorer, Office Hotmail, among other software. Security concerns with WinNT even prompted the U.S. Army to move its hacked Web site from NT servers to WebStar servers running the MacOS. But does this mean Microsoft software is less secure than other software? http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/28/ms.security.idg/ : Have you hacked any MS warez lately? Is MS easier to crack than programs from other sources? Are you part of a conspiracy to 'get' MS? Who pays you? # 'VIRTUAL CLINIC' TO OPEN UP FOR - WHO ELSE? - MICROSOFT WORKERS. A firm in Seattle will offer a "virtual clinic" to employees of Microsoft - figures, don't it? http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=17760 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ % DEPTH PSYCHOLOGY AS A POST-SCIENTIFIC MODALITY @ The Psychedelic State: http://butterfly.net/henryflynt/psychostate.html @ Hypnosis and the Delusiveness of Normal Perception and Logic: http://www.butterfly.net/henryflynt/hypnodel.html @ Premonitory Imagery: http://www.butterfly.net/henryflynt/depthpsy.html @ Romance As Illumination: http://butterfly.net/henryflynt/depthmodal.html : Are you psychedelic, post-scientific, romantic, hypnotized, normal? D'ya see all, feel all, know all, understand all? Are you connected to the void? @ The science of binaural beats http://brain.web-us.com/thescience.htm facilitates transcendental meditation for the average joe. no yogi required. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # TELESCOPE FINDS 'POWER LINES' IN STELLAR REMNANT. Scientists have found the long-sought "power lines" in the most studied object in the sky that connect a powerful, spinning, collapsed star with the luminous gas remnant around it. For decades, astronomers have known that the pulsing neutron star somehow transferred its energy at a rate 100,000 times that of our sun's radiation rate to the Crab Nebula surrounding it. The nebula, about 10 light years across, is a remnant of a stellar explosion that occurred about 1,000 years ago. http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/28/crab.nebula/ : Do you feel strange when you stand under power lines? Do you feel strange when you stand under the Crab Nebula? Is power dangerous? Are crabs evil? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ ZetaTalk http://www.zetatalk.com/ contains everything a young clone
Re: [CTRL] CLINTON DOUBTS FBI'S MOTIVES Suggests Focus On China G...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/28/1999 11:06:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Disagreement over the investigation caused friction between Attorney General Janet Reno and FBI Director Louis Freeh. Reno eventually rejected the director's conclusion that an independent counsel should be appointed. Rare??Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Barnes called Guard to help Bush get in
-Caveat Lector- Nobody with a brain wanted to go to Vietnam and get killed over a war we should never have been fighting. Bush may be eligible to get a job as a policeman in Conn., but he's not totally moronic. He liked flying jets, but he didn't want to risk his life further than that. He managed to get influential friends to get him into the Guard. That way he looked patriotic and didn't have to risk dying for no good reason. There are a lot of reasons why I don't want another Bush in the White House, but this is not one of them. I think he did the right thing. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WACO BOMB - EXTREME!!! (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:42 AM Subject: WACO BOMB - EXTREME!!! ABSOLUTE PHYSICAL PROOF THAT A MILITARY BOMB WAS USED TO MURDER WOMEN CHILDREN IN WACO: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/wacorom2.htm This is the most significant information you will ever see pertaining to the Waco massacre. This is the most monstrous crime committed by the Federal Government during the Waco siege. A bomb used to murder women and children: http://www.Ian.Goddard.net/wacorom2.htm Please contact your Congressional representative (http://visi.com/juan) and make them aware of this. Please download this most-important webpage for safe keeping: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/wacorom2.zip Please forward this message as far wide as possible. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: WACO BOMB - EXTREME!!!/Waco: Concrete Tomb Part II
from: http://www.Ian.Goddard.net/wacorom2.htm' A HREF="http://www.Ian.Goddard.net/wacorom2.htm"Waco: Concrete Tomb Part II/A - Embeds and pix at site. Om K - The Concrete Tomb, Part II Go to Part I Copyright 1999 Ian Williams Goddard After examination of the Waco crime scene, Gordon Novel, an investigator in the civil suit against the Federal Government for wrongful death, came to the shocking conclusion that a bomb had been exploded on the top of the concrete room wherein forty one women and children died. Novel's conclusion has been corroborated by independent experts, including Brigadier General Benton Partin. A primary feature of Novel's bomb theory is the large fireball that appeared during the fire. When the concrete room is superimposed in its exact location over the following FBI photograph of the fireball, we can see that the fireball originated exactly on top of the room. The large fireball was centered directly over the concrete room. A circular hole in the roof exposing downward-bowed steel rebar is consistent with the detonation of a large bomb on top of the roof. General Partin observes that this is "the kind of hole you get with a demolition charge. You have concrete in contact or close proximity to high explosives and the pressure is several hundred times the yield strength of the concrete, so the concrete in the area of the hole is turned to dust, and you have ... dynamic gas pressure going down into the 'bunker' below." The steel rebar was left intact due to its cohesive strength and its thin curved shape which lacks surface area sufficient for the blast to do significant work upon. That explosive force traveled down through the hole in the ceiling into the room is proven by the following photograph from the court docket which shows how the lower surface of the concrete ceiling below the rebar running through it collapsed, falling onto the floor in a circular pattern centered roughly below the hole in the ceiling. Superimposed circles denote the circular distribution of small to increasingly larger debris. This pattern proves that extreme forces blasted down through the hole above. The finest and thus most pulverized debris that fell from the ceiling is found at the center of the concentric distribution of debris. The debris becomes progressively larger away from the center, which is below the hole in the ceiling. This defines the hole as the epicenter of a powerful explosive event. Also observe that the upper panel of the walk-in freezer has been smashed downward by a force from above. Notice further that an array of holes in the forward panel of the freezer correspond with the circular lines of force radiating from the area below the hole. A physicist I consulted noted that this arc of evenly-spaced holes "perfectly matchs the hole in the roof and one can make a ray diagram which traces each and every hole directly back to the hole in the roof. The shape of each hole also proves that the projectiles which formed them came from above." Hideously burned and mutilated bodies of women and children lie under the debris, largly undiscovered at the time of the photo above. Areas of black seen through the debris and pushed up against the walls by the force of the incoming blast contain the burned bodies of women and children. The image below shows a few of the most intact remains of those murdered women and children. The physicist that I consulted concured with the findings of General Partin, concluding that the distribution of debris from the ceiling and the damage to the freezer establish physical proof that a large bomb was detonated on the roof of the room sending a sudden pulse of extreme explosive force down through the hole in the ceiling corresponding with the explosion seen in the first photo above. He also noted that the placement of the bomb would ensure maximum lethal damage. The following animation shows us how a bomb on the roof of the room would produce all the physical evidence we have just observed (the people huddled inside are not depicted). There is additional evidence supporting Novel's bomb theory, such as the distribution of cracks seen around the exterior walls of the room. However, the evidence presented above is sufficient to prove that a powerful bomb exploded on the roof of the concrete room sending a sudden pulse of extreme explosive force down into the room. Such explosive force was sufficient to have finished off any of the forty one women and children not already killed by exposure to fire, heat, smoke, CS, or the poisonous gases such as hydrogen cyanide that are produced when CS power and its carriers burn. It is conservative to conclude that nobody was supposed to come out alive. OPPORTUNITY MOTIVE But how did the federal forces assaulting the Mt Carmel Center manage to place a bomb above the concrete room inside the Center? Danny Coulson, a former FBI official involved in Waco operations, said on the Billy Hayes Show (KLIF
[CTRL] Your Papers, Please (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 29, 1999 YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE... Strange bedfellows battle national ID Groups mobilize to repeal law mandating card By Sarah Foster © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com It's not often you find groups as far apart politically as the American Civil Liberties Union, La Raza, Eagle Forum and Concerned Women of America on the same side of an issue. But these organizations and others -- such as the Conference of State Legislatures, the Electronic Privacy Information Center and Free Congress Foundation -- are united in a broad-based coalition from across the political spectrum to force repeal of an obscure section of an immigration law Congress passed three years ago, which provides a provision for turning state driver's licenses into what these critics claim is a national identification card. Section 626 (b) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibilities Act of 1996 requires states to collect, verify and display social security numbers on state-issued driver's licenses and conform with federally-mandated uniform features for driver's licenses. It authorizes the federal Department of Transportation to establish national requirements for birth certificates and driver's licenses. The Illegal Immigration Reform Act -- with Section 626 (b) -- is scheduled to take effect Oct. 1, 2000. "Basically, what the statute says is that federal agencies 'may not accept for identification or related purposes a driver's license or other comparable identification document issued by a state unless the license or document satisfies the requirements established by the act,'" said Norm Singleton, Rep. Paul's legislative assistant, quoting the act itself. "What that in essence means is that anything that under federal law you're required to show an ID for, you can only show or produce an ID that corresponds to the standards of the act," Singleton explained. "You will have a mandated, uniform ID that you will have to show before opening a bank account, getting a job, traveling on a plane, applying for Social Security or Medicare -- those are some of the things you won't be able to do without a federally approved ID," he said. In addition to Social Security numbers the new driver's licenses may include microchips encoded with the holder's fingerprints and other personal data. In the House Ron Paul has led the fight against Section 626 (b). "It's a threat to liberty," says Singleton. "That's why Congressman Paul favors repeal of this section. There's no constitutional authority for the federal government to be telling the states what kind of ID they must issue to their citizens in order to get a driver's license or any other kind of license. It's another example in this country of how we're allowing the erosion of our traditional liberties and our Bill of Rights." In the Senate, Richard Shelby, R-Ala., has taken a leading role by attaching an amendment to a transportation appropriations bill that would repeal the controversial Section 656 (b). The appropriations bill is now in the conference committee, and could be discussed and voted on as early as today -- certainly by the end of the week. The question is whether the language to repeal Sec. 626 (b) will be allowed to remain. Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, is fighting all efforts to keep the repeal language. He denies Section 626 (b) spells a national ID card, and views it as a much-needed way of stemming illegal immigration. In case the repeal language is removed, the opponents in the House have
Re: [CTRL] FBI Spymaster Heads China Probe
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/29/1999 3:18:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dillard, who has a law degree from Mississippi College School of Law, has served in the FBI's national security division at headquarters where he managed all foreign counterintelligence and counterespionage operations as chief of the global section. He also has served as assistant chief of the counterterrorism section, unit chief of the Russian section and unit chief of the counterterrorism section of that division. He also previously worked in the Kansas City, Washington and Salt Lake City field offices. You know this always puzzles me. The FBI was meant to work within the United States of America. They haven't done a very good job of it right here, possibly because their talent has been utilized in doing the job the CIA was always supposed to do. Of course they haven't done too well either, possibly because they are trying to take up the slack for the FBI here in the US. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ted Gunderson / Quotes from The Last Circle / Part 1 of 5
-Caveat Lector- Enclosed are quotes from the e-book, "The Last Circle" by Carol Marshall, mostly as they pertain to Ted Gunderson, former FBI SAC, and advocate for survivors of satanic ritual abuse. To read the book and the "Editor's Note" (by Jeff Davis,) start here: http://www.tdbooks.com/ebooks/lastcircle/toc.html A HREF="http://www.tdbooks.com/ebooks/lastcircle/toc.html"The Last Circle-Table Of Contents/A Quotes are posted with the permission of the Editor. The names/comments inserted in [[double brackets]] were inserted by me for the purpose of clarity. Underlines are mine, but I doubt they'll show up. Regards, Samantha begin quoting I have in my possession five boxes of documents, obtained from a convicted methamphetamine chemist [[Michael Riconosciuto]] whose closest friends were a 20-year CIA operative [[Robert Booth Nichols]] and a former FBI Senior-Agent-in-Charge of the Los Angeles and Washington D.C. bureaus [[Ted Gunderson]]. The labyrinthine involvements of these people and their corporate partners is revealed in this manuscript, along with information obtained by Washington D.C. journalist Danny Casolaro prior to his death in 1991. --- On an impulse, I picked up the phone and called Gunderson's telephone number listed at the top of the attached resume. The resume was impressive. He'd worked as SAC (Senior Special Agent in Charge) at Los Angeles FBI headquarters, Washington D.C. headquarters and in Dallas, Texas. It would be two years before I would grasp the significance of the Dallas connection. After retiring from the FBI, he'd worked for F. Lee Baily, Esq., then formed his own investigative agency in Los Angeles county. -- Unknown to me at the time, I had taken a quantum leap in the direction of the Octopus when I contacted Ted Gunderson. The mystery of the Mariposa coverups would soon be divulged through an associate of his, a former member of "The Company" in nearby Fresno, California. - He was a big, handsome man with an aging face and tossled silver hair. He seemed entirely unaware of his appearance or the appearnce of his home, but his pale eyes were intelligent and probing. Intuitively, I knew he was more than he appeared to be. - In the van, reviewing the documents, I wondered what relationship they had to Mariposa County and why I was given the packet. The documents were far ranging, beyond anything I had heretofore imagined. But within days of my visit to Gunderson, I would be introduced to the Octopus. -- The following morning, at 7:30 a.m., I received a collect call from a man who identified himself as Michael Riconosciuto (pronounced Riconoshooto). Riconosciuto, calling from the Pierce County jail in Tacoma, Washington, said he had been informed by Gunderson that I was investigating a corruption/drug ring in Mariposa County. For 45 minutes Riconosciuto related the names of those in charge of methamphetamine operations in Mariposa, Madera and Fresno counties. --- I interrupted him [Michael Riconosciuto], wanting to know where HE fit into the picture? "Well, I served as Director of Research for the Wackenhut facility at the Cabazon Indian reservation in Indio, California. In 1983/84 I modified the PROMISE computer software to be used in law enforcement and intelligence agencies worldwide. A man named Earl Brian was spearheading a plan for worldwide use of the software, but essentially, the modified software was being pirated from the owners, Bill and Nancy Hamilton." -- In subsequent documents obtained from Michael's secret hiding place in the California desert, I located documents which indicated Michael had first been recruited into the CIA by Al Holbert. - Riconosciuto had been communicating regularly with journalist Danny Casolaro prior to his death on August 10, 1991 when Danny's nude body was found in the bathtub of room 517 of the Sheraton Hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia. His wrists had been slashed ten or twelve times. - He [Danny Casolaro] told friends that he "had traced the Inslaw and related stories back to a dirty CIA `Old Boy' network" that had begun working together in the 1950's around the Albania covert operations. These men had gotten into the illegal gun and drug trade back then and had continued in that business ever since. Before his death, Danny had made plans to visit the Wackenhut Corporation in Indio, California, and even considered naming his book, "Indio." Ted Gunderson was one of the few "cooperating" witnesses at Michael's trial. Through his affidavit and testimony, Ted hoped to supply the defense with needed corroboration of Michael's covert government sanctioned activities. Unfortunately for Michael, Ted could not disclose numerous activities which had included Robert Booth Nichols. At one time Gunderson, Nichols and Riconosciuto had been inseparable, like the three musketeers. But, Nichols was currently under investigation by the Los Angeles FBI for
Re: [CTRL] Ted Gunderson / Quotes from The Last Circle / Part 2 of 5
-Caveat Lector- continued from Part 1 From "The Last Circle" by Carol Marshall http://www.tdbooks.com/ebooks/lastcircle/toc.html A HREF="http://www.tdbooks.com/ebooks/lastcircle/toc.html"The Last Circle-Table Of Contents/A Quotes are posted with the permission of the Editor. The names/comments inserted in [[double brackets]] were inserted by me for the purpose of clarity. Underlines are mine, but I doubt they'll show up. Samantha -- begin quoting -- [[Michael Riconosciuto:]] "Now Ted Gunderson ..." [[Author:]] "Mike, have you got any paperwork on that?" [[Michael R.:]] "Now, wait a minute. Gunderson was physically with me when Wayne Reeder, Peter Zokosky and his wife and several of Wayne Reeder's lieutenants, Bob Nichols and his wife, Harold Okimoto, George Pender, Deborah Pender, Dill Pender, and myself were all together ..." [[Author:]] " ... Where?" [[Michael R.:]] " ... At Wayne Reeders country club, golf club, in Indio, California. And Bob discussed openly in front of Ted Gunderson and myself and everyone present bragged about Glenn Shockley and Jose Londono having 3,500 soldiers. It's now almost double that ..." "What does that mean? What are the soldiers?" Mike: "R.J. will know what it means." "Alright. OK." -- Casolaro's June - July (1991) phone bills told a story of their own. Having followed Danny's investigative trail for three years, I had an entire directory of phone numbers relating to his inquiries. - It was also apparent that Danny was riding a seesaw with Nichols and Riconosciuto. He would talk to one, then the other, often on the same day, back and forth for months. Then suddenly, he cut off Riconosciuto and his calls to Nichols increased in frequency. Other phone numbers matched those of Ted Gunderson, Alan Boyak, a lawyer in Utah, Bo Gritz, Heinrich Rupp and Chuck Hayes, a self-professed (on the Internet) CIA operative. Danny often called Hayes immediately after he spoke with Nichols. Oddly, Hayes never came forward during the official investigation of Danny's death to disclose the content of those conversations. - It is noteworthy that Danny Casolaro also contacted and interviewed Allan Boyak shortly before his death. According to Ted Gunderson and others who knew Danny, Boyak met with Casolaro in Washington D.C. and provided him with a copy of a transcript of the meeting between himself (Boyak), Riconosciuto, and Ted Gunderson, who at that time was Riconosciuto's investigator. I later obtained the same transcript from Gunderson's live-in partner, J.M., and have related the contents of that explosive transcript in Chapter 13. -- "The FBI background check [conducted by Ted Gunderson] on Robert Booth Nichols (born 1943 or 1944 he couldn't remember for sure) revealed that he was `squeeky clean.' In fact, he had a Class I machine gun license. - "Three to four years ago, Boyack received an out of the blue telephone call from Michael Riconosciuto. Michael identified himself as a former employee of Robert Nichols. He also referenced Ted Gunderson as a `mutual friend.' Boyak had only met Ted once very briefly when he was pressing the L.A. FBI to look into the Nichols dope suspicions ..." " ... Then in April 1991, Boyak received a phone call from Ted Gunderson, informing him that `Michael was in trouble. He was caught in a government frameup.' -- One of the most surprising, and disturbing, documents I found in Michael Riconosciuto's hidden files (see Chapter 9) was an envelope with a notation on it, handwritten and signed by Ted Gunderson, which read as follows: "Michael: Raymond [Lavas] is arriving at LAX, 7:55 p.m., Air Canada via flight 793 from Toronto. Will have to go through Customs. This will give us another member for our drug/arms operation. Only problem [is] Raymond will probably be using instead of selling. Sorry I didn't get to D.A. office. I tried to call, but no answer. By the time I fought the traffic to the bank and did my banking, it was too late Will be home tonight (818) 8806238. T.G." Raymond Lavas was Ted Gunderson's forensic expert when he worked for the FBI. Lavas was in constant contact with Bobby Riconosciuto after Michael was incarcerated. In fact, everyone was watching Michael and Bobby very closely. --- The transcript, originating from a series of tape recorded interviews between Michael Riconosciuto, Ted Gunderson and Robert Booth Nichols at Nichols' "007" apartment in Marina Del Ray, provided a window into the entire drug scene in California from the early 1960's through the 1980's, mostly relating to methamphetamine operations in the Bay Area. It had been typed by Ellen Nichols, Robert's wife. Riconosciuto's relationship with Ted Gunderson dated back at least as far as 1982. Michael and Nichols dated back to 1967. In reading the transcript, it appeared that Gunderson and Nichols were interviewing Riconosciuto for recruitment into a drug/sting operation. Riconosciuto later verified that he was, in
Re: [CTRL] Ted Gunderson / Quotes from The Last Circle / Part 3 of 5
-Caveat Lector- continued from Part 2 From "The Last Circle" by Carol Marshall http://www.tdbooks.com/ebooks/lastcircle/toc.html A HREF="http://www.tdbooks.com/ebooks/lastcircle/toc.html"The Last Circle-Table Of Contents/A Quotes are posted with the permission of the Editor. The names/comments inserted in [[double brackets]] were inserted by me for the purpose of clarity. Underlines are mine, but I doubt they'll show up. Samantha -- begin quoting -- Out of the Wackenhut/Cabazon endeavor grew a business partnership between Nichols and Riconosciuto, both interested in developing new, hightech submachine guns and powerful explosive devices that, like a nuclear blast, could produce an electromagnetic pulse that could wipe out an enemy's communicatins and electronics. The secretive Nichols chatted with Casolaro frequently. Casolaro's July phone bills indicated that he called Nichols fifteen times that month, often in the wee hours of the morning. Several of those phone conversations lasted for more than two hours. Before his death on August 10th, Danny Casolaro told his brother, Tony, and Bill Hamilton that Nichols warned him that his investigations were risky. --- According to FBI statements, Nichols is not a man whose warnings should be taken lightly. In September 1987, Special Agent Thomas Gates of the Los Angeles FBI had begun an investigation of the activities of Robert Booth Nichols and his corporation, Meridian International Logistics, through Japanese and Australian legal attaches abroad. According to a subsequent deposition filed by Gates, the bureau suspected Nichols of being involved in a $500 million stock fraud and of maintaining ties to the Gambino crime family and organized crime in Japan. --- Gates's deposition was part of a 1987 wiretapping on the phone of Eugene Giaquinto, an official of the MCA entertainment corporation with reputed MOB links. Nichols was one of the people whose calls the bureau intercepted. According to the wiretap application, Nichols was allegedly an international money launderer for money generated through narcotics trafficking and organized crime activities. - Ted Gunderson submitted an affidavit on Nichols' behalf, stating that he believed Gates HAD acted outside the scope of his employment when investigating Nichols abroad, the suit was subsequently dismissed through the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. -- While reading these documents, I couldn't help wondering why an "arms" dealer [Nichols] , allegedly tied in with organized crime, wanted to fund the exclusive training of physicians at a Japanese medical school? -- Was this technology being developed with the authority of the U.S. government, or independently? If Nichols' operations were in fact government sanctioned, then it must have been frustrating for him to be investigated by the FBI. The concept of the FBI inadvertently investigating the CIA was ironic. And what had Danny Casolaro learned about this technology? --- I felt that time was of the essence in uncovering the nature of this technology, so I pushed Riconosciuto to talk about it. "It looks like Earl Brian, Sir Denis Kendall, Hercules Research, Wackenut, Zokosky and Bob Nichols were all involved in the same biotechnological agenda ..." Michael answered, "You got it." I asked, "Are they connected, or are they all individually working on their own projects?" Michael: "Yes." "How?" Michael: "Check out Bio-Rad Laboratories. Their international headquarters are on half of the property that used to be the Hercules plant, in Hercules, California. Do you understand what I'm saying? BioRad makes the most toxic biological and radioactive compounds known to man. And they're now located in the town of Hercules. BioRad Industrial Park. That building of theirs, the headquarters, doesn't look like much, but it goes 20 stories down into the ground. It's a huge underground complex. "See, BioRad was the flagship company, and then they [Earl Brian] started InfoTech, and then they got mired in lawsuits and then Hadron was formed to be a cutout parent corporation, you know, just to be a firewall from law suits ..." I asked, "What do they do at BioRad?" "Well, they make the most hazardous biological and nuclear chemicals in the world, for medical research." "Who do they sell it to?" "Well, front line researchers all over the world. BioRad is the single source for this stuff ... actually Aldrich Chemical sells it, there's about 100 companies, but BioRad is head and shoulder above all of them by a factor of ten on many things like Cytotoxins." I remembered reading about Cytotoxins in the Wackenhut/Cabazon biological warfare letters to Dr. Harry Fair. Michael responded hesitantly, "It would have been Hitler's wet dream. It's selective to such a degree that it's awesome. With the appropriate genetic material, you can wipe out whole segments of humanity. There's no stopping it." "I asked, "You mean you could
[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] BP_is_fined_£4m_over_Alaska_waste
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/29/1999 8:10:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BP AMOCO has been forced to make an embarrassing confession and pay penalties totalling $7 million (£4.3 million) over its disposal of hazardous waste on Alaska's North Slope Well, now that just makes everything wonderful, doesn't it? Anyone have any problem understanding that British Petroleum American Oil Company doesn't really give a damn about the environment on Alaska's North Slope or anywhere else for that matter. Don't hold your breath waiting for the money to show up. They'll find a way to pull an Exxon. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ted Gunderson / Quotes from The Last Circle / Part 4 of 5
-Caveat Lector- continued from Part 3 From "The Last Circle" by Carol Marshall http://www.tdbooks.com/ebooks/lastcircle/toc.html A HREF="http://www.tdbooks.com/ebooks/lastcircle/toc.html"The Last Circle-Table Of Contents/A Quotes are posted with the permission of the Editor. The names/comments inserted in [[double brackets]] were inserted by me for the purpose of clarity. Underlines are mine, but I doubt they'll show up. Samantha -- begin quoting -- It was time to interview Robert Booth Nichols. I was communicating regularly with Ted Gunderson and one day, on an impulse, I asked him for Nichols's telephone number. Gunderson hesitated, then gave me the telephone number of a "relative" of Nichols' in Los Angeles, stating that he really couldn't give out Robert's home number without first consulting him. -- I didn't mention that Riconoscituo had stated Kendall was Nichols' supervisor (CIA "handler"), or that J.M., Ted Gunderson's research partner, had found a brochure in Ted's files advertising for Swedish nurses at a medical research complex in Mexico. The brochure contained both Gunderson's picture and Sir Denis Kendall's. -- Nichols continued to lead the conversation towards Riconosciuto. Nichols and Zokosky could not understand why Ted Gunderson testified for Michael at his trial in Washington state. At a previous dinner party at Nichols' apartment in Sherman Oaks, Ted reportedly told the two men that Michael had loaned him (Gunderson) $60,000 for a joint business venture. Ted still owed Michael the money. It is noteworthy that Ted also supplied Robert Booth Nichols an affidavit for HIS lawsuit against Thomas Gates. --- I simply did not perceive Riconosciuto as a killer. Nevertheless, I asked Nichols how Michael would kill me if he was in jail? Nichols said it would be done by one of Michael's "drug flunkies." He said Riconosciuto HAD worked for the government, and had been "rescued" by the FBI for years. He added that Michael could get away with murder. I wondered if the video had been tampered with. I asked Nichols where he had obtained the original "uncut" version? He would not say. I had no idea at that time that his F.I.D.C.O. partner, Clint Murchison, Jr.'s [[friend of Ted Gunderson, according to his live-in partner, J.M.]] father had had instant access to the Zapruder film immediately after the assassination in Dallas, Texas. Nichols studied me for the longest time, then walked over to the window and lit a cigarette. He finally commented that the CIA can cover up anything it wants, even a president's murder. He wanted to show me the power of the Octopus. "Nothing is as it appears to be," he said. Inwardly, I recalled a conversation with J.M., in which she related a conversation she'd had with Ted after a dinner engagement with Nichols. Nichols had reportedly stated to Ted that he headed a 200man assassination team. Jackie had been too frightened to elaborate on this conversation, but had pointed out that Nichols once worked in the MKUltra (Manchurian Candidate) program during the Vietnam war. This program was part of the "Phoenix Project." Interestingly, numerous publications had mentioned that Earl Brian had also participated in the Phoenix Project during the war. -- Littman proceeded to issue a warning which I recorded in my notebook in the car. It read as follows: "Littman warned me today to watch out. Noone gets out of this alive. No one walks. If I cut them off, it would be very dangerous." - That evening, I mentally reviewed the day's events. Nichols and Littman were undoubtedly screwing with my head. The doctored Zapruder tape gave them deniability. The information I had obtained at the meeting may or may not have had value, but I knew one thing, the deaths surrounding Riconosciuto and Nichols were real enough. Behind the smoke and mirrors labyrnthe was a story, one they were working very hard to conceal. I felt sure the corporate and government connections were little more than "fronts" for large scale drug trafficking. - Bobby Riconosciuto sat with Ted Gunderson and J.M. in her hotel suite and ate pizza. When I called her, she said Ted had detained her at the hotel, she couldn't get away. My husband and I finished our dinner and drove to San Diego to see my mother. -- "John, I've been straight with all of them. Every one of them. I have never betrayed any of them, other than to provide you, as a journalist, with some documents you requested ..." He interrupted me, still speaking meticulously, ever so slowly. "You cannot fool people like Michael and Bobby and Ted Gunderson. Michael knew the meeting was going to take place. And it's not a good idea to go back and tell him a story that something didn't happen when it did happen." --- Bobby confided that Michael had taperecorded the conversation in which Littman had reported the contents of the Nichols meeting. Michael had called a "friend," and had the friend patch
[CTRL] OEN 9/29/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson from Steppenwolf by Hermann Hesse We need not be surprised that even so intelligent and educated a man as Harry should take himself for a Steppenwolf and reduce the rich and complex organism of his life to a formula so simple, so rudimentary and primitive. Man is not capable of thought in any high degree, and even the most spiritual and highly cultivated of men habitually sees the world and himself through the lenses of delusive formulas and artless simplifications--and most of all himself. For it appears to be an inborn and imperative need of all men to regard the self as a unit. However often and however grievously this illusion is shattered, it always mends again. The judge who sits over the murderer and looks into his face, and at one moment recognizes all the emotions and potentialities and possibilities of the murderer in his own soul and hears the murderer's voice as his own, is at the next moment one and indivisible as the judge, and scuttles back into the shell of his cultivated self and does his duty and condemns the murderer to death. And if ever the suspicion of their manifold being dawns upon men of unusual powers and of unusually delicate perceptions, so that, as all genius must, they break through the illusion of the unity of the personality and perceive that the self is made up of a bundle of selves, they have only to say so and at once the majority puts them under lock and key, calls science to aid, establishes schizomania and protects humanity from the necessity of hearing the cry of truth from the lips of these unfortunate persons. = Organized Crime The FBI's Trie Notes Are Missing They meant to write a new, improved set. A Senate committee will investigate the disappearance of an FBI agent's notes describing Justice Department efforts to block an investigation into campaign finance abuses by Democratic fund-raiser Charles Yah Lin Trie. Sen. Fred Thompson, Tennessee Republican and chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee, said he was unhappy with ongoing Justice Department and FBI internal probes, and would call department and bureau officials for depositions by committee lawyers. "We had an entirely unsatisfactory meeting Thursday with officials from the Justice Department and FBI offices responsible for handling this internal investigation into the pages apparently removed from an FBI agent's notebooks," Mr. Thompson said. "They've known for a month the agent's notes have apparently been altered, but even when we met with these officials specifically to discuss their findings to date, they were wholly unprepared to talk about details," he said. "The committee now intends to find out the details on its own." Mr. Thompson said the notes were "apparently removed" after they had been suboenaed during a House inquiry. He said their disappearance caused him "very serious concern," adding that those responsible face potential criminal charges. Agent Roberta Parker, a 14-year FBI veteran, told the panel during nearly four hours of testimony last week that 27 pages from a spiral notebook describing the Trie probe -- including a recounting of her disagreements with Justice Department lawyers -- disappeared after she turned them over to her FBI superiors. The notebook, one of several she maintained, had been sought in response to questions by a House committee concerning Justice Department and FBI disagreements over the campaign finance probe. Mrs. Parker testified that the pages were torn out of the book, although she had no information on who was responsible. She was one of four FBI agents who told the panel that Justice Department lawyers blocked their efforts to pursue investigative targets, including Trie. They described department lawyers assigned to oversee the probe as unaggressive, saying they sought to impede or delay the investigation with "ludicrous" restrictions. One of the agents, Ivian C. Smith, who headed the FBI's Little Rock, Ark., field office even complained in a personal memo to FBI Director Louis J. Freeh the lawyers in charge of the probe were "at best, simply not up to the task." The agents testified that: * Justice Department lawyer Laura Ingersoll, who headed the campaign finance probe, blocked their bid for a search warrant to stop a destruction of evidence by Trie and his assistant. * Miss Ingersoll and her boss, Lee Radek, head of the department's public integrity section, refused for four months to allow agents to ask a magistrate for a search warrant after a "trash cover" investigation showed financial, business and travel records were being destroyed. * A search warrant affidavit written by Mrs. Parker, a lawyer herself, said Trie's assistant, Maria "Dia" Mapili, had "shredded or torn" documents into "small pieces by use of hand shears or some other manual cutting device." * The affidavit
[CTRL] COME AND GET ME, OCTOPUS!
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.nitronews.com/thomas.html A HREF="http://www.nitronews.com/thomas.html"Nitro News - Kenn Thomas/A - COME AND GET ME, OCTOPUS! KEITH CO-AUTHOR RESUMES COLUMN Commentary by Kenn Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If Fate should break my stride, I'll give you my Vincent to ride..." - Richard Thompson, 1952, Vincent Black Lightning. I don't know if I came to the Richard Thompson concert along the Mississippi riverfront this past weekend to help with closure over Jim Keith's death, but these words went a long way in that direction. Jim may have died pursuing the pregnancy angle of the Princess Diana story, and Thompson - a folk rock legend, founder of Fairport Convention, revered for his words - is a particularly smart-ass limey. He mugged a Woody Guthrie bit, singing, "This land is your land, this land is your land, this land is your land..." Thompson is also a Sufi mystic, and the sources of Jim's final column for Nitro News about Diana were Sufi. Coincidences, of course, but I confess a sentimental attachment to coincidences, and a more than unconscious desire to fit my experience over the death of Jim Keith into an understandable pattern. He's gone, and all that's left are his books, which for the fortunate reader, provide a perspective on history, on conspiracy, on what's happening right now and in the future, as rare and unique as the '52 Vincent in the Thompson song. I co-authored the Octopus with Jim Keith, and have now agreed to resume his column exclusively in Nitro News, in part as defiance against the Octopus, if that vicious beast had anything to with it. In this regard, I would like to repeat the part of the Keith column that rumor suggests led to him being offed: "In 1998, one of my Sufi contacts, who chooses to remain anonymous, travelled to London to participate in Dhikr, a remembrance of Allah. This ritual was attended by both Sufis and orthodox Muslims. My contact reports that while participating in this ceremony, he met Dodi Fayed's personal physician, a man who is a Muslim, but is not a Sufi. In private conversation, the physician told him that Diana and Dodi Fayed had planned on getting married, and that he had personally examined her and determined that she was pregnant." There, Octopus. Come after me. I don't have the name of the physician, but if it is with Jim's research and if it comes into my hands, I'll out him right away. That's what we did with Danny Casolaro's research, taking everything that was left and finishing his book. It has become a relay race of conspiracy writers, trying to get out the truth about this nasty transglobal monster before it takes us down. Maybe it's a monster of our imagining. Maybe Jim died of just a blood clot, although the anecdotal information I've accumulated suggests this is very rare. In lieu of a real investigation (still needed, although I was unsuccessful in raising money to fly to Reno for the purpose), we can only guess. In any event, I will not go quietly, and Jim cannot pass through this life without those questions being asked and pursued as best as possible. Readers unfamiliar with my work should know that I travel and lecture widely, appear regularly on radio and TV throughout the country, and I publish the conspiracy magazine Steamshovel Press. Jim parked his '52 Vincent at the Steamshovel offices on occasion, and it's still being used for the car pool. The Steamshovel take on Diana has been that she was collateral damage in an aerospace espionage hit against Dodi Fayed for the sake of the Al Yamama contract umbrella. The Saudis buy substandard military aircraft with loans from Britain that cover far more than the cost. Mohamed Al-Fayed posed a threat to this arrangement, particularly with his support of Tony Blair, and he was sent a message about it via the killing of his son. The consequent death of Diana, of course, served many ancillary purposes of the British Royals, including its racist concerns over the pregnancy. One suspected architect of the Dodi Fayed hit is his uncle, Adnan Khashoggi, who spent much of his career developing the Al Yamama contracts. Danny Casolaro was investigating him on the very day he (Casolaro) was found dead. Mohamed Al-Fayed remains resolute in his determination to find out what really happened to his son. In a recent BBC interview, primarily intended to goad him into making inflammatory statements about the Royals, he made these interesting remarks: "Al-Fayed: I hate nobody. I just want to find justice. BBC: But you have contempt for the Establishment, they have refused you British citizenship. Al-Fayed: I don't care about that, it is not important to me. BBC: You used to care about it. Al-Fayed: The way my son has been murdered, because I can't get to the truth, I can't get killers because you cover yourselves with Official Secret Acts... BBC: Do you
[CTRL] THE JIM KEITH ONLINE WAKE
-Caveat Lector- from: http://users.intercomm.com/gpickard/jimkeith/ A HREF="http://users.intercomm.com/gpickard/jimkeith/"THE JIM KEITH ONLINE WAKE/A - Links and pix. Blessings Om K Welcome to the Jim Keith Online Wake! READ DIANA ARTICLE HERE ! Grab yourself a beer, and join friends in remembering one of this planets coolest beings. This site is dedicated to the memory of James Keith, author and avatar-- the man who knew too much. Here you will find a host of JK lore ! Links ! News ! Rumors ! We hope that you will help us celebrate his life by contributing a memory of your own. Thanks for coming, God bless... - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Money System
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:557243"The Money System/A - Subject: The Money System From: "Dr. NoSpam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 September 1999 01:04 AM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -1- The Federal Reserve is a private corporation. (A business that has nothing at all to do with the American government). -2- The Federal Reserve prints all the paper currency for the American government. -3- The American government's operations are financed by loans from the Federal Reserve which must be paid back with interest. -4- The Federal Reserve prints only enough paper currency to cover the loan amount that the government requests. -5- The American government extorts taxes from it's citizens in order to pay back the loans and interest to the Federal reserve. -6- With each and every transaction, with each and every passing year, the Federal Reserve gets bigger and richer while the American people become smaller and poorer. This cannot be avoided, delayed nor altered in any way what so ever. No policy, no budget can ever alter this fact because it is built into the very core of the system. (only enough money released into the system to cover the principal amountnot the interest). In other words, more money must therefore be taken out of the system than goes in. Repayment of the debt is not ever possible, the system is set up that way.there just isn't enough money and therefore the only possible solution that the system offers is to go deeper into debt. The only possible way to be freed from financial slavery is to abolish the Federal Reserve, cancel all debts owing to it and encharge the government directly with printing it's own money and supplying it to the system with ZERO interest charged. The system, as it exists in it's present form is nothing less than a financial racket (scam) which is nothing short of a criminal activity worthy of a public investigation and disclosure so that the very people (all citizens) can see for themselves what it really is. Think about it, every single federal politician that exists is in on this scam, they are all defrauding you the American people. The government will never tell you this because the scam can only work so long as the masses are ignorant of it's true function. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ted Gunderson / Quotes from The Last Circle / Part 4 of 5
-Caveat Lector- Did anyone else get Part 3? It never showed up in my email. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you considered the possibility that life expectancy in India vs. U.S. is possibly related to CRUSHING POVERTY ? Yup. Poverty sucks. Overpopulation -- poverty -- misery. Why overpopulation? Over the past 100-150 years we've seen the rise of modern medicine and SANITATION, which have had a tremendous impact on human populations. The worldwide life- expectancy averaged around 39 years in pre-modern times, and about 90% of everyone born died in childhood. Sanitation and basic medicine [antibiotics etc] changed that, cutting infant mortality rates down to 1%-10% - but impoverished and traditional cultures maintained high birth rates, leading to vast population increases. Wealthier and less tradition-bound societies cut their birthrates - indeed, birthrates worldwide are dropping sharply, but they probably won't stabilize at replacement levels for another 100-150 years,say demographers. Ever-rising populations in poor countries produces increasing poverty, with fewer resources available for advanced medicine, for investment in infrastructure, for upgrading lifestyles. So the poor and traditional will continue subjecting themselves to ineffective medical practices, 'cause those are all that are available. And romantics in more developed countries will use 'traditional' medicines 'cause such are cute'n'cozy. If your favorite homeopathic preparation doesn't kill you, you'll sing its praises - if it DOES kill you, you won't be around to bitch about it. This is called a "self-selecting sample," eh? Things will get strange in upcoming decades. Folks with access to advanced medical technology will get healthier, will have themselves and their offspring gene-modified to live a LONG time. People without access to such technologies will continue to die young, despairing, ground to a pulp. But 'enhanced' humans will also shop for homeopathic/traditional remedies for their real and perceived ailments - and since they'll be quite healthy, the bogus preparations won't kill them as quickly, and they'll sing the praises of the goo, and live on happily. Yow. If a few years, you'll have chips implanted in your body, if you can afford them. They'll monitor/regulate your physiological functioning, report on you to a central database, automagically mediate your economic/physical/medical activities. You will lose privacy. You will gain time, value, contacts. You may or may not have the option to select these implants, depending on where you live, on who your insurer/HMO/bank/govt are. Folk with such implants will live longer, will have more economic/political control, will be significant. And people without such implants, probably won't. Poor people around the world will likely do all they can to gain such implants. Illegal immigration will reach new levels. Phony implants will be a black-market boom. To be fully human, you'll necessarily be fully wired. Watch it happen. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990929c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No banned books were badly burnt during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ STOP PLAYIN!!! http://click.mp3.com/ct/c_acas/n_YMGpH/u_www/artists/37/tre9.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Murder trial opens for sex-fetish M.D. SAN DIEGO (AP) A former doctor is on trial for murder in the death of an elderly man who paid $10,000 to get a healthy leg amputated merely to satisfy a sexual fetish. The doc lost his medical license in 1977 after 3 patients nearly died from sex-change operations he performed in places such as a garage and a hotel. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561381574-cf5 : Where would you most like to be rendered transgendered? Do you have any sexual fetishes that require major body-parts rearrangements? Is surgery between consenting adults OK? Have you changed your own or anyone else's sex lately? What's your favorite sex? How many genders have you tried out? # Family therapy 'helps sex offenders'. Teenage sex offenders could be stopped from reoffending if their families were more involved in their treatment: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_46/460022.stm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # BANNED BOOKS WEEK SPOTLIGHTS BATTLE OVER CENSORSHIP. As Banned Book Week gets into full swing, Judith Krug says she isn't surprised that people still try to ban books from library shelves. But sometimes she is amused by certain attempts. "We've had complaints about THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK" she says, "because it was, and I quote, 'a real downer.' Well yeah, I guess the Holocaust was a real downer." Festival theme: 'Free People Read Freely': http://cnn.com/books/news/9909/27/banned.books/index.html : Have you read any banned books lately? Did you ban/burn any books lately? Which books burn best? Is reality a downer? Would you rather not read about reality? What's your favorite fantasy? Should everyone accept your fantasy? # Tax Resister Beats IRS - US income tax is voluntary only: http://www-douzzer.ai.mit.edu:8080/revolution/commerce/taxes/long.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Cult members busted in Japan. TOKYO (AP) Police raided a facility run by the Japanese doomsday cult AUM arrested two key officials for allegedly confining a female member. About 200 police officers raided the facility. There were about 20 cult followers inside and they were being questioned over their treatment by the cult. The cult has been regrouping expanding its membership even though its guru, Shoko Asahara, has been charged with masterminding the March 1995 sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway that killed 12 people and sickened thousands. Govt agencies infiltrated - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561385305-d15 : Does your belief system promote the involuntary confinement of members? Is confining people fun? Who would you most like to confine? Have you confined anyone lately? Is your doomsday cult regrouping, expanding, evolving, huge? # Soy sauce can cut cholesterol. (BBC) Certain types of soy sauce have been shown to greatly reduce the levels of harmful cholesterol. Others haven't. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_46/460150.stm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UFO Carjacking in Buenos Aires. (WWN) UFOs are reportedly becoming even bolder in their relentless kidnapping activities, and are now no longer content to snatch human beings one at a time from their beds -- they're stealing entire cars full of people. A helmet-shaped UFO grabbed an auto out of mid-morning Buenos Aires traffic August 6, literally levitating the vehicle into its otherworldly depths with a "blue beam of light" focused on the car. After stealing the car, the object sped away from the scene. http://www.space.com:80/area51/tab_carjacking_990928.html : Are you an ET? Have you committed many carjackings lately? Do you target any specific types of car? Do you prefer BMWs, VWs, Fords, Fiats, SAABs?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # St. Peter's facade multi-colored. VATICAN CITY (AP) - After undergoing its most thorough scrubbing in centuries, St. Peter's Basilica has revealed a surprise: a many-colored facade. "St. Peter's is back to its ancient sple- ndor," the Vatican proclaimed after a 30-month, $5 million restoration, courtesy of Italy's state energy company, ENI. Others wonder. Since the scaffolding came down earlier this month, some commentators have bitched about the Technicolor. "The solemn unity of the original facade has dis- appeared," architectural historian Carlo Bertelli wrote recently, accusing restorers of giving St. Peter's a makeover to render it more telegenic. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561376772-996 : Have you cleaned-up and colorized
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990929d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No former dictators were canonized during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Ascii Beavis makes the world go-round: http://chris.com/art/beavis.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Death rates lower in wedlock. (BBC) Married folk enjoy lower death rates than their non-married counterparts, according to UK govt statistics. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_459000/459737.stm : Are you married, healthy, happy, implanted? Do aliens abduct more married or unmarried people? Who are easier to mind-control? Is marriage just MC?? # Antibiotic Resistance Seen As Risk In Food Supply: http://www.sightings.com/health3/risk.htm @ Risks Digest: http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/20.60.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Cult worships Marcos. ABRA, Philippines(AP) A picture of the "Sacred Heart of Jesus" in a Philippine chapel has the familiar features, including the heart ringed by a crown of thorns. But there's one startling difference - the face is that of the late Philippine strongman Ferdinand Marcos. Altho vilified by many as a ruthless dictator, Marcos is worshipped by hundreds of cultists in the mountains of Abra province 200 miles north of Manila. "We regard him as a saint." Wearing white cassocks, cult members, mostly impoverished peasants, sing prayers in a thatch-roofed chapel adorned with portraits of Marcos along with traditional religious figures. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561378546-daf : Which former dictators do you worship? Are all former dictators saints? Do you venerate their death-squads foreign bank accounts secret police? Do you want to be a dictator, a saint, a deity, a death-squad leader, a zebra? # Malaysia premier warns foreigners. (AP) Foreigners who support the Islamic opposition in Malaysia in the name of promoting democracy should realize they are aiding Islamic fundamentalists. You don't really want that, do you? http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561382592-101 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Old spacecraft makes surprise discovery. (BBC) The Pioneer 10 spaceprobe may have helped astronomers discover a new object orbiting the Sun. Wow! http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_46/460095.stm @ Links - Pioneer 10: http://spaceprojects.arc.nasa.gov/space_projects/pioneer/Pnstat.html @ Kuiper Belt Objects: http://emma.la.asu.edu/SOLAR_SYST_TOUR/Kuiper.html @ QMW College: http://www.maths.qmw.ac.uk/Astronomy/ @ JPL: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ : Are you old? Have you discovered any new astronomical objects lately? Was it tiring? Have ETs exposed themselves to you? Were you stimulated? When?? @ Robot Performance Art: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/1999/09/27/omnicircus_robots/print.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Pastor's haunted house will show evils of raves. Rev. Keenan Roberts' annual Halloween Hell House in Denver will bash gay unions, abortion and rave parties. Says Roberts: "The music will be thumping. Everybody will be doing drugs. A church girl is there, and she ultimately goes on a drug trip and she dies. Then, bam, things pick up and the party goes on." http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/0929hell5.shtml : Have you taken a drug trip lately? Are drugs better than fundamentalism? Would you rather rave or pray? Why are only Xians bothered by Satanism?? # Teens' multilated cat Halloween mural is attacked: http://www.sjmercury.com/premium/local/docs/mural29.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The Bank of England And The Gold Crisis. If the price of gold goes up, it tends to discredit paper money. After all, some do consider gold the only real, independent money, separate and apart from Governments. The Bank of England has been part of a scheme to force down the price of gold. A deep dark secret: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/bank.htm : Is y'r gold-price-manipulation conspiracy working, failing, irrelevant? Do you believe in gold? Do you worship gold? Do you control gold-worshippers?? @ Hidden Usenet-hierarchy pages: http://www.deja.com/=dnc/home_bg.shtml _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # NY brain virus 'could spread south'. (BBC) Health experts are warning that a potentially fatal mosquito-borne virus which has struck New York could be carried across the western hemisphere by migrating birds. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_46/460330.stm : Have you spread any new diseases lately? Do you use birds as vectors? Are they cheap, honest, reliable? What will you do when the world is diseased? @ NSA Mind Control: www.sonic.net/~west/nsamindcontrol.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ % THIS DAY IN HISTORY - 27 September 1964 - -United States- The 888 page Warren Commission report on the assassination of President John Kennedy
[CTRL] Fwd: CIA Venture Capital Company in Silicon Valley
9.29.99 Marta clues us in to news that the CIA has established a high-tech venture-capital company in California's Silicon Valley to foster the growth of companies which develop such technologies useful to the CIA in pursuit of their agendas, such as security and "data mining" technologies. Another purpose for the new CIA computer company, called In-Q-It, is to bring the CIA's computer systems up to speed. Wouldn't want our friendly CIA to be behind the curve on anything, now would we? NewsHawk Inc. - - - - - - - - - John, who says that spooks are hopelessly out of synch in our technoeconomy? Economic and management dullards? Check out today's Denver Post, page 20A, article from NY Times writer John Markoff: (This article isn't at the DP website as it wasn't written by their writers. Don't have the time to go find it now...but, here's the executive summary.) "Headline: CIA invests to ensure high-tech future for spies. Hoping to ensure that the nation's spies have the latest information technology in the rapidly changing Internet age, the CIA has established a venture capital company to nurture high-technology companies, company executives and former CIA officials said. "The CIA has chosen a veteran Silicon Valley software company to head the effort, which has an office in Washington with eight employees and will have a second office in Washington. [...] "The agency has named its new nonprofit venture In-Q-It in reference to Major Boothroyd, a.k.a. Q, the master technologist [in the James Bond series]. "There is a tremendous information explosion today," said John McMahon, former deputy director of the CIA and an In-Q-It board member. "As a result, the agency was always one step behind. The agency got the idea that maybe what it needed was something that would not only appreciate its needs but be an umbilical cord that was plugged into the brightest minds in the Valley. [CREEPY SHUDDER!] [...] "The new company will supply venture capital in some cases, and in others it will hire contractors or partner with entrepreneurs in four areas: integrating Internet technology and applications into the CIA's work; developing new security and privacy technologies; nurturing data mining technologies to take better advance of the agency's vast storehouse of records; and modernizing the agency's now-dated computer systems. [then a big bunch of BS about the agency being so warm, fuzzy, and open about all this...] Food (or vomit) for thought, I guess. Marta St. Augustine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: MIND CONTROL GOES PUBLIC!
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist MIND CONTROL GOES PUBLIC! A MIND BLOWING LECTURE BY AUTHOR BRICE TAYLOR WILL BLOW THE LID OFF YEARS OF GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACIES.Introduction by TED GUNDERSON, Former FBI Special Agent. (See below for a more detailed description of this can't miss event!) WHEN: Sunday October 17th - 4 P.M. WHERE: Double Tree Hotel (Fountain Ballroom) 191 N. Los Robles, Pasadena COST: $30 per person FOR MORE INFORMATION OR TICKETS TO THIS EVENT: CALL (323)466-5005 or (800) 932-9986 or e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author BRICE TAYLOR will tell how she was conditioned through trauma in order to be MIND CONTROLLED BY TOP GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS and many of the ELITE. Her shocking story will give you insight into the horrendous crimes inflicted on American citizens. If you care about HUMANITY, OUR FREEDOM AND OUR PLANET, you won't miss this vital lecture by this truly courageous woman. There will be an introduction by guest speaker TED GUNDERSON. TED GUNDERSON is a retired 27 year veteran FBI special agent who worked in the L.A. distric with over 700 agents under his command. Here's what Ted Gunderson has to say about featured lecturer Brice Taylor: "She is credible, knowledgeable and truthful. I admire and respect her courage in an effort to Wake Up America, and I'm with her 110% of the way!" A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WILL FOLLOW THIS LECTURE! LECTURE TOPICS WILL INCLUDE: Genetic Engineering, Satanic Rituals, Missing Children, Illuminati, Mind Controlled Individuals in the Sports and Entertainment Field, Government Sponsored Media Blackouts and much, much, more! FOR MORE INFORMATION OR TICKETS TO THIS EVENT, PLEASE CONTACT US: WEBSITE: http://members.aol.com/castloc/control.html BY PHONE: (323)466-5005 or (800) 932-9986 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please forward to anyone you think would be interested eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/konformist http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
[CTRL] FW: [CTRL] WACO BOMB - EXTREME!!! (fwd) *a must*
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of MICHAEL SPITZER Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 8:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] WACO BOMB - EXTREME!!! (fwd) -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:42 AM Subject: WACO BOMB - EXTREME!!! ABSOLUTE PHYSICAL PROOF THAT A MILITARY BOMB WAS USED TO MURDER WOMEN CHILDREN IN WACO: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/wacorom2.htm This is the most significant information you will ever see pertaining to the Waco massacre. This is the most monstrous crime committed by the Federal Government during the Waco siege. A bomb used to murder women and children: http://www.Ian.Goddard.net/wacorom2.htm Please contact your Congressional representative (http://visi.com/juan) and make them aware of this. Please download this most-important webpage for safe keeping: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/wacorom2.zip Please forward this message as far wide as possible. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = In Memory: WACO: The Rules of Engagement (slow loader due to extensive horrific images) http://www.waco93.com/ by Fifth Estate Productions Check it out! (let this first page load completely) http://harvest-trust.org/ * Waco Massacre by William Cooper http://216.221.173.225/ * Overview of Davidian Massacre by Carol Moore http://www.cia.com.au/serendipity/waco/moore3.html * THE DAVIDIAN MASSACRE by Carol Moore http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/davidian-massacre.html * Waco Pictorial Essay by Gary Hunt http://www.illusions.com/opf/wacoind.htm * Mt. Carmel http://start.at/mt.carmel © Branch Davidian Seventh Day Adventist Association * Thoughts on Waco: A Remembrance by Jack Kettler http://www.visi.com/~contra_m/cm/discuss2/cm98_jk_waco.html * It is our right, and it is our duty, to remain free. --- Alan Keyes "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." --Thomas Jefferson* *The famous quotation is from a letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush of September 23, 1800. ME 10:173 In The Federalist Papers, No. 47, James Madison labels that arrangement thusly: "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether on one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." "I have no reason at this point to believe the FBI is responsible for the deaths of those people." --Janet Reno On revelation that the FBI tossed at least two incendiary grenades into the Waco compound Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Tobacco News Non-Legal Drug Wars
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist PANUPS: Colombian Drug Wars [EMAIL PROTECTED] === P A N U P S Pesticide Action Network Updates Service === Farmers are Victims in Colombian Drug Wars September 23, 1999 Under the premise of eradicating drug crops, the Colombian government has been spraying traditional farming communities indiscriminately with herbicides containing glyphosate. In June of this year, the Colombian government began spraying homes and farms of the Yanacona indigenous community in the Macizo Colombiano region, Cauca province. Herbicides were sprayed over houses, community centers, schools, water sources, pastures and workers in the fields. Intended to kill small crops of opium poppy, the raw material used to make heroin, the spraying destroyed crops and pasture lands the Yanacona depend on for food and income. Fish and chickens died, other farm animals became ill, and both adults and children suffered symptoms of pesticide poisoning. Faced with illnesses and loss of crops, the Yanacona indigenous community sent a delegation to meet with the governor of the province, demanding a stop to the spraying. The governor promised that a fact- finding commission including representatives of several governmental and nongovernmental agencies would visit the community to collect testimony on the spraying. The actual commission consisted, however, of just two representatives of the provincial government. Some 1500 members of the Yanacona community assembled to meet with the fact-finding commission. People presented testimony of their experience of being "sprayed like flies" and becoming ill. Mothers reported on illnesses among children, including respiratory distress, rashes, vomiting, diarrhea, fever, migraines and conjunctivitis. One pregnant mother with five children testified that all her children were sick and her livelihood had been destroyed. Others reported that their pastures had been ruined and their cattle were ill. The spraying destroyed crops the Yanacona grow to feed their families and has affected their ability to sell their farm products. For example, the sale price of milk and cheese has fallen by 50% or more, due to customers' fears that the cows have drunk water contaminated with pesticides. Community members maintain that the majority of the Yanacona farms that have been sprayed do not grow poppies. In another area of Colombia, spraying with glyphosate has undone the successes of small farmers who were working to establish ecologically and economically sound alternatives to drug crops. Farmers in Caqueta province have designed intercropped gardens of native species, pasture areas with tree cover, and small-scale fish farming. In August, the government began spraying herbicides that have killed seedlings in their nurseries and crops in their fields, contaminated water sources and made adults and children sick. The farmers are seeking help from the International Red Cross to set up a forum in which to present testimony on what they have experienced. Colombia produces three illicit drug crops: marijuana, coca and opium poppy. Commercial production of coca for processing into cocaine began in the mid-1970s and has increased dramatically; Colombia is now the world's largest producer of cocaine. Large-scale production of opium poppy did not begin until 1990, but it too has grown rapidly. Colombia is now the primary supplier of heroin to the eastern United States. Between 1990 and 1998, the U.S. provided some US$625 million to the Colombian National Police and the Colombian military for aircraft, weapons, ammunition and other support for the war on drugs. Beginning in 1996, the U.S. State Department identified herbicide spraying to eradicate opium poppy crops as a priority; the cost of this undertaking for fiscal year 1999 may be as high as US$68 million. Yet the expensive and inhumane "war on drugs" has not brought the drug trade under control. According to conservative estimates, the area in Colombia planted with illegal crops increased by almost 400% between 1978 and 1998. Between 1996 and 1998, despite consistent spraying, coca production in Colombia increased by 50% and poppy production remained approximately constant. RAPALMIRA (PAN-Colombia) is calling for the immediate suspension and long-term prohibition of aerial spraying to eradicate drug crops, and for the implementation of a genuine
[CTRL] where r WACO elderly who were chained-then imprisoned??
-Caveat Lector- Anyone out there know what happened to them? Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [10] BETRAYAL
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany Arthur D. Rahn Former Chief Editor of Intelligence Office of the Director of Information Control Office of Military Government, Germany Book Knowledge Warsaw, Poland pps. 237 (no date) out-of-print - ---" NOT until I sat down to write this book and reflected on my experience and organized my notes did I realize that what had seemed to me and my friends in Germany to be a chaos of corruption and incompetence had actually been a planned development following a very definite pattern. In fact, it has become increasingly clear that the pattern of events in Germany from 1944 to mid-1947 mirrored in sharp perspective what was happening at home in America. Developments in Germany, too, have paralleled our actions in the United Nations and our relations with the Soviet Union, Greece, Spain, China, Britain, Israel with the entire world."--- Om K - CHAPTER TEN Denazification Becomes Renazification "I shudder to think of what will happen to humanity including ourselves, if this war ends in an inconclusive peace, and another war breaks out when the babies of today have grown to fighting age." --From annual message to Congress, January 7, 1943. "IT appears," declared Lt. General Clay, the Military Governor of Germany, in a speech to the provincial premiers of the American Zone on November 7, 1946, "that the denazification law has been used to return as many persons as possible to their former vocations, rather than to punish the guilty." But just a few weeks before, in an official conference, General Clay had counseled his MG officers more "realistically" about denazification and the Germans charged with its administration, stating: "You have to be careful in handling Pfeiffer (the Bavarian Minister of Denazification). Remember, he is an old-line reactionary and a strong nationalist. If you offend him on those subjects (bungling in denazification, etc.) he might resign." * [* Reported in a dispatch from Munich by Edd Johnson, the special correspondent of the Chicago Sun and PM, October 3, 1946.] There were many subjects on which MG officers could "offend" Dr. Pfeiffer, for under the direction of this "old-line reactionary and strong nationalist," at least 60% of the Nazis who were automatically to be classified as "major offenders" had either been acquitted or classified as "followers" and dismissed with minor fines. In addition, the Bavarian Denazification Courts responsible to his ministry had brazenly exonerated more than three-quarters of the German officials removed from government positions by our MG officials on account of their political unreliability. Dr. Pfeiffer might have resigned in a huff if an American had suggested that as the father of two Storm Troopers and the brother of a dangerous Nazi interned by the Americans, he himself was politically suspect. General Clay no doubt realized that the hypersensitive "old-line reactionary" might resent any insinuation, too, that as the general secretary of the leading right-wing politicians who had supported the Empowering Act, the law which granted Hitler dictatorial power in Germany, he had no moral right to judge the political histories of his fellow Bavarians. *[ * The right of these discredited old politicians who had voted Hitler dictatorial power to hold office and even to direct the denazification program in the new anti-Nazi democracy had never been challenged under the denazification law until January, 1947, when the public prosecutor of a Stuttgart Denazification Court suddenly indicted Rheinhold Maier, the Wuerttemberg-Baden provincial Premier, and Wilhelm Simpfendoerfer, the provincial Minister of Culture both of whom had supported the Empowering Act of 1933 as men bearing considerable responsibility for Hitler's rise to power. As a test for the entire denazification program, the case inspired sharp discussion in the press and at meetings of the political parties and of the trade unions. In an attempt to explain the speech he had made as leader of the Staatspartei (State Party) in the Reichstag in support of the Empowering Act, in which he had praised the "great national aims proprosed by the Chancellor (Adolf Hitler) ", Maier revealed that he had urged his party to support the Act out of fear of the Nazi and nationalist deputies, who were "drunk with power." He was not to be trusted to fight back against the Nazis. Simpfendoerfer, who was also the head of the provincial Christian Democratic Union, had not only supported the Act and publicly declared -his satisfaction with Hitler's elimination of the "flabby" Weimar Republic but had also accepted an invitation from the Nazis to remain in the Reichstag as their guest after the dissolution of all the parties except the NSDAP. In his rejoinder to the indictment, he accused the prosecutor of a "seditious tendency" and suggested that the entire case was "in the service of a shady conspiracy of very dark
[CTRL] GLOBAL JAM ECHELON DAY, 21 OCTOBER 1999.
Original Message Follows http://www.wodip.opole.pl/~laslo/Echelon-links.html STAND UP FOR THE FREEDOM TO EXCHANGE INFORMATION! We the monitored have decided to stand up against the very real, very intrusive, and ultimately oppressive global surveillance system known as Echelon. Echelon is a vast mainframe set up by the New World Disorder in order to monitor the world's electronic communications for subversive keywords. Every time you send someone an email with keywords like "revolution" and "hacktivism" [for instance], Echelon's computers make a note of it. If you forward emails with regularity with words on Echelon's extensive keyword list, you may be marked for human "hands-on" monitoring. On October 21, 1999 , netizens around the globe are implored to send out at least one email with at least 50 keyword words. You need not be privy to knowing exactly what words Echelon uses. It is safe to assume that words such as "revolution" and "manifesto" and "revolt" [etc.] will work. Just be sure to sound as subversive as possible. There isn't even any need to write a cohesive paragraph or sentence. Echelon's computers does not understand the language anyway. It only knows to look for certain words. By doing this we can at least temporarily jam the global surveillance system. This day of action will be timed to preceed Stop Police Brutality Day by one day so that emails about actions can be sent out with little scrutiny due to what will already be an enormous workload for Echelon. Now is a chance for anyone, regardless of computer expertise, to become an instant hacktivist - best of all, no software is needed [other than your regular email program]. Of course, feel free to conduct such subversiveness any time. The larger Echelon's workload, the more free our speech. After October 1, we ask global netizens to merely stop censoring themselves for fear of spooky scrutiny. By merely deciding to speak in the spirit of unabashedly subverting the DOMINANCE paradigm, we will make it quite difficult for Echelon to do its job. || In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. || http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/thirdeye.html || __ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/anarchism http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: MIND CONTROL GOES PUBLIC!
-Caveat Lector- TED GUNDERSON, Former FBI Special Agent. Isn't this guy being sued by Art Bell? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB
-Caveat Lector- Peter, this is excellent! This is precisely the kind of material I have been looking for. -Original Message- From: earthman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 3:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB -Caveat Lector- This is a site re Paleoclimate data concerning the flood. It has a great deal of info and supportive data http://www.stanford.edu/~meehan/donnelly/paleo2.html The link can be accessed via my pole shift links page at http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/links Andrew, if you feel inclined to check it out, then perhaps you could suuggest a few more links. Thanks Peter DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Church vs. State (Supreme Court)
-Caveat Lector- And much of the furor behind the school voucher crusade is coming from the Catholic church in response to a longstanding demand from the Vatican for state subsidy of parochial schools, as is the case in Europe. In this, as in all First Amendment issues involving church and state, I hear the ghost of Thomas Jefferson laughing... -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 3:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Church vs. State (Supreme Court) -Caveat Lector- The trouble with allowing SOME --primarily the Fundamentalist "Moral Majority-- to override the separation of church and state in America is that this opens the door for the "religionization" of politics by OTHERS TOO -- and some groups, such as the Catholic Church, have not only bigger financial clout but an INTERNATIONAL power base ... The cry of "anti-Catholicism!" is slowly becoming as strident as "anti-Semitism!" I bet those who are nostalgic for the "good old days" of the '50s, when paranoid anti-Communism justified a National Security State run by fascist generalissimos, are just as nostalgic for a return to censorship of the mass media by the Catholic Church, the de facto guardian of "public morals" in America during the same period ... snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB
-Caveat Lector- Unfortunately, Andrew, geological history is filled with the marks and scars of catastrophes that *don't* fit the HAB Theory. The flooding of the Black Sea is fascinating; it has major implications for archaeology, especially for the quest to understand the origins of the Indo-European-speaking peoples. It may indeed be one (I emphasize *one*) of the sources of the biblical Flood story. There are lots of other floods and related events, however, which don't fit so neatly into that 7500-year cycle, such as the eruption of Thera which spelled the doom of Minoan civilization and probably inspired the legend of Atlantis; or the flooding of the Mediterranean Basin at 2+ million years B.P., when the Gibraltar dam collapsed. I repeat what I said in my earlier post: what we need in this discussion is hard archaeological and palaeontological data which has undergone the rigorous peer-review process. There is mystery and wonder enough in the history of this planet without adding our own speculations to the mix... Please remember, too, that I always try to remain open to unconventional, off-the-wall ideas. A good many of today's scientific orthodoxies, such as plate tectonics, started out as off-the-wall ideas, after all. When I challenge someone's statements, it's in an effort to force more rigorous, disciplined thinking than is often exhibited. Truth is often found in very strange places by very strange people. All I ask is that you be as cautious and precise in your descriptions of that very weird truth as possible. As J.B.S. Haldane remarked, "The universe is not only queerer than we know, it is queerer than we *can* know." -Original Message- From: Andrew Hennessey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 10:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Dropa Stones and HAB snip hi, the following comments fit in exactly with the HAB theory I'm afraid. The HAB theory says that disaster by plate reshuffle happens every 7500 years or so Scientists have never found Noah or his ark, but they believe in his flood. It happened about 7,600 years ago, when the Mediterranean Sea, swollen by melted glaciers, breached a natural dam separating it from the freshwater lake known today as the Black Sea. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-09/26/195l-092699-idx.ht ml COMPELLING evidence that there was a Great Flood, as told in the Old Testament story of Noah's Ark, has been found far below the waters of the Black Sea by an American expedition. Underwater surveyors, led by Robert Ballard, the renowned oceanographer who found the Titanic and other sunken ships of the 20th century, have discovered an ancient coastline at a depth of 450ft. http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/timfgnusa02001.html?999 snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] American Soldiers Admit to Civilian Mass Killings During Korean War
-Caveat Lector- Wednesday September 29 1:21 PM ET http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19990929/ts/the_bridge_at_no_gun_ri_1.html Ex-GIs Tell AP of Korea Killing By SANG-HUN CHOE, CHARLES J. HANLEY and MARTHA MENDOZA Associated Press Writers It was a story no one wanted to hear: Early in the Korean War, villagers said, American soldiers machine-gunned hundreds of helpless civilians under a railroad bridge in the South Korean countryside. When the families spoke out, seeking redress, they met only rejection and denial, from the U.S. military and their own government in Seoul. Now a dozen ex-GIs have spoken, too, and support their story with haunting memories from a ``forgotten'' war. American veterans of the Korean War say that in late July 1950, in the conflict's first desperate weeks, U.S. troops killed a large number of South Korean refugees, many of them women and children, trapped beneath a bridge at a hamlet called No Gun Ri. In interviews with The Associated Press, ex-GIs speak of 100 or 200 or ``hundreds'' dead. The Koreans, whose claim for compensation was rejected last year, say 300 were killed at the bridge and 100 in a preceding air attack. American soldiers, in their third day at the warfront, feared North Korean infiltrators among the fleeing South Korean peasants, veterans told the AP. The ex-GIs described other refugee killings as well in the war's first weeks, when U.S. commanders ordered their troops to shoot civilians, citizens of an allied nation, as a defense against disguised enemy soldiers, according to once-classified documents found by the AP in U.S. military archives. Six veterans of the 1st Cavalry Division said they fired on the civilians at No Gun Ri, and six others said they witnessed the mass killing. ``We just annihilated them,'' said ex-machine gunner Norman Tinkler of Glasco, Kan. After five decades, none gave a complete, detailed account. But the ex-GIs agreed on such elements as time and place, and on the preponderance of women, children and old men among the victims. Some said they were fired on from among the refugees beneath the bridge. But others said they don't remember hostile fire. One said they later found a few disguised North Korean soldiers among the dead. But others disputed this. Some soldiers refused to shoot what one described as ``civilians just trying to hide.'' The 30 Korean claimants - survivors and victims' relatives - said what happened July 26-29, 1950, was an unprovoked, three-day carnage. ``The American soldiers played with our lives like boys playing with flies,'' said Chun Choon-ja, a 12-year-old girl at the time. The reported death toll would make No Gun Ri one of only two known cases of large-scale killings of noncombatants by U.S. ground troops in this century's major wars, military law experts note. The other was Vietnam's My Lai massacre, in 1968, in which more than 500 Vietnamese may have died. From the start of the 1950-53 conflict, North Korean atrocities were widely reported - the killing of civilians and summary executions of prisoners. But the story of No Gun Ri has remained undisclosed for a half-century. The Pentagon, told generally of the AP's findings, said it had found no substantiation for the allegations in the official record. The AP's research also found no official Army account of the events. Some elements of the No Gun Ri episode are unclear: What chain of officers gave open-fire orders? Did GIs see gunfire from the refugees or their own ricochets? How many soldiers refused to fire? How high in the ranks did knowledge of the events extend? The troops dug in at No Gun Ri, 100 miles southeast of Seoul, South Korea's capital, were members of the 7th Cavalry, a regiment of the 1st Cavalry Division. The refugees who encountered them had been rousted by U.S. soldiers from nearby villages as the invading army of communist North Korea approached, the Korean claimants said. It was the fifth week of the Korean War. Word was circulating among U.S. troops that northern soldiers disguised in white peasant garb might try to penetrate American lines via refugee groups. ``It was assumed there were enemy in these people,'' ex-rifleman Herman W. Patterson of Greer, S.C., said of the civilian throng. As they neared No Gun Ri, leading ox carts, with children on their backs, the hundreds of refugees were ordered off the dirt road by American soldiers and onto parallel railroad tracks, the Koreans said. What then happened under the concrete bridge cannot be reconstructed in full detail. Although some ex-GIs poured out chilling memories, others offered only fragments, or abruptly ended their interviews. Over the three days, soldiers were dug in over hundreds of yards of hilly terrain, and no one - Korean or American - saw everything. But the veterans corroborated the core of the Koreans' account: that American troops kept the large group of refugees pinned under the No Gun Ri railroad bridge and killed almost all of them
Re: [CTRL] For women--danger in feminine products
-Caveat Lector- Why would tampons cause Toxic Shock syndrome if they were so pure? pied piper Dave wrote: -Caveat Lector- I'm thinkin' hoax Found an industry-sponsored site that denies allegations: http://bodymatters.com/questions/questions4.html mebbe guerrilla advertising for the health food store tampons or sponges or ? Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of earthman Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] For women--danger in feminine products -Caveat Lector- Can anyone confirm this before I pass it on? I wouldn't want to waste their time with a hoax. Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 1:26 PM Subject: [CTRL] For women--danger in feminine products -Caveat Lector- Got this in my email. I knew about the dioxin in white coffee filters, but this is news to me Tenorlove -- Subject: WARNING for females... (O-Sh) Please pass on to as many women as possible . . . If you use pads, but especially if you use tampons read this and pass on to your friends (for the men receiving this email, please forward it to your friends, significant others, sisters, mothers, daughters, etc.) thanks! Have you heard that tampon makers include asbestos in tampons? Why would they do this? Because asbestos makes you bleed more . . . if you bleed more, you're going to need to use more. Why isn't this against the law since asbestos is so dangerous? Because the powers that be, in all their wisdom(not), did not consider tampons as being ingested, and therefore wasn't illegal or considered dangerous. This month's Essence magazine has a small article about this and they mention two manufacturers of a cotton tampon alternative. The companies are Organic Essentials @ (800) 765-6491 and Terra Femme @ (800)755-0212. A woman getting her Ph.D. at University of Colorado @ Boulder sent the following: "I am writing this because women are not being informed about the dangers of something most of us use - tampons. I am taking a class this month and I have been learning a lot about biology and woman, including much about feminine hygiene. Recently we have learned that tampons are actually dangerous (for other reasons than TSS). I'll tell you this, after learning about this in our class, most of the females wound up feeling angry and upset with the tampon industry, and I for one, am going to do something about it. To start, I want to inform everyone I can, and email is the fastest way that I know how. Here is the scoop: Tampons contain two things that are potentially harmful: Rayon (for absorbency), and dioxin (a chemical used in bleaching the products). The tampon industry is convinced that we, as women, need bleached white products - in order to view the product as pure and clean. The problem here is that the dioxin produced in this bleaching process can lead to very harmful problems for a woman. Dioxin is potentially carcinogenic (cancer-associated) and is toxic to the immune and reproductive systems. It has also been linked to endometriosis and lower sperm counts for men- for both, it breaks down the immune system. Last September the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) reported that there really is no set "acceptable" level of exposure to dioxin given that it is cumulative and slow to disintegrate. The real danger comes from repeated contact (Karen Houppert "Pulling the Plug on the Tampon Industry"). I'd say using about 4-5 tampons a day, five days a month, for 38 menstruating years is "repeated contact", wouldn't you? Rayon contributes to the danger of tampons and dioxin because its a highly absorbent substance. Therefore, when fibers from the tampons are left behind in the vagina (as it usually occurs), it creates a breeding ground for the dioxin. It also stays in a lot longer than it would with just cotton tampons. This is also the reason why TSS (toxic shock syndrome) occurs. WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? Using feminine hygiene products that aren't bleached and that are all cotton. Other feminine hygiene products (pads/napkins) contain dioxin as well, but they are not nearly as dangerous since they are not in direct contact with the vagina. The pads/napkins need to stop being bleached, but obviously tampons are the most dangerous. So, what can you do if you can't give up using tampons? Use tampons, that are made from 100% cotton, and that are UNBLEACHED. Unfortunately, there are very, very few companies that make these safe
[CTRL] Fw: WACO BOMB - EXTREME!!!
-Caveat Lector- From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ABSOLUTE PHYSICAL PROOF THAT A MILITARY BOMB WAS USED TO MURDER WOMEN CHILDREN IN WACO: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/wacorom2.htm This is the most significant information you will ever see pertaining to the Waco massacre. This is the most monstrous crime committed by the Federal Government during the Waco siege. A bomb used to murder women and children: http://www.Ian.Goddard.net/wacorom2.htm Please contact your Congressional representative (http://visi.com/juan) and make them aware of this. Please download this most-important webpage for safe keeping: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/wacorom2.zip Please forward this message as far wide as possible. *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/28/99 8:35:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bulletproof ignorance... complete safety from scarey facts. Ignorance??? From a guy that can't correctly spell "scary" I'm not too put off... The burden of proof Goob, is on those making the wild and fantastic claims, not on me or anyone else...Homeopathy is bunk pure and simple...the pseudoscience behind it is a joke, and it's proponents are hucksters. Say, does Floyd sell homeopathic water at his barber shop? Mayberry...Asheville, did "y'all" miss a meeting??? It's almost 2000, we be movin' forward! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ANTIPROHIBITION campaign
Title: Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart ANTIPROHIBITION campaign http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/4756/grc.html "Once everything not expressly legal is prohibited, everything not prohibited becomes mandatory." If prohibition ended today, would you start using drugs? If you wanted to try them, would the law against them stop you? Does the law stop anyone who is currently violating prohibition? When is the last time you heard of a liquor store owner caught at a schoolyard offering kids their first bottle for free? Prohibition is based on the myth that, if it didn't exist, then everyone would become addicted to something like drugs, sex, or gambling, and civiliztion would crumble. Guess what folks, it is prohibition itself that is making civilization crumble. It is prohibition itself that perpetuates the cycle of addiction, corruption, and violence. Addiction is created not by a substance but by artificial scarcity (prohibition) of it. Removing the profit motive and banning advertising can prevent young people from being intoduced to drugs. Adults seldom become addicted. Taxation would provide funds for effective early medical intervention to thwart the few naturally occurring cases of addiction. Research into genetics indicates that there are biochemical and physiological variations in humans that predispose different people to different predelictions. This strongly suggests that legalization would not lead to an increase in addictions since people so predisposed are probably already self-medicating despite the existence of prohibition. The overwhelming majority not predisposed to addiction will not find drugs at all alluring. Prohibition is a form of genetic persecution on par with Racism. Laws or willpower or pshchological therapy has no effect on the small segment of the population that is prone to true addiction. Most of these people would have no trouble leading productive lives if they weren't forced into crime or prostitution to support their 'abnormal', yet certainly not evil, biochemical limitations. These people are not genetically predisposed to crime or violence. Only to chemical imbalance similar to bipolar disease. They cannot be treated as criminals by any civilized society or legal system. Prohibition diverts potential tax many times over to organized crime and funds government corruption. Prohibition is simply the IRS for the Mob. And the Mob runs TV and mainstream media. It runs the CIA. It runs banking, industry, science, ...you name it. After 50 years of complicity between Organized Crime, the National Security Council, and residual elements of the Nazis, just about everything is owned on paper by a terrifyingly small group of people. Many of them are familiar and ostensibly respectible like George Bush, Donald Grieg, Ronald Regan, William Clinton, Henry Kissinger, Allan Dulles, William Casey, Casper Weinberger, and Oliver North. Former President Salinas of Mexico, Manuel Noriega, Samosa, etc., etc., etc. Jailing all of those people and their co-conspirators, confiscating their illegally acquired property, and convicting them of High Treason is what should be done according to the prohibition laws these very people have been shoving down our throats. But is that ever going to happen? Never in your wildest pipedream. The only thing we still can and MUST do, is abolish prohibition, and end state secrecy. It isn't too late, yet. Prohibition and Secrecy, not legalization, are the 'experiments' and they have failed miserably, my friends. Legalization with regulation, taxation, education, and therapeutic intervention is not an experiment. It is the only sane and civilized policy, and it has always worked everywhere for millennia. It would be foolish to deny that, on the surface, making drugs, gambling, and prostitution illegal seems to be a reasonable way of controlling their consumption, for the betterment of the overall quality of life. Unfortunately, reality is not so simple. It is not an open ended proposition. Meaning "what goes around comes around." We cannot unjustly prosecute (persecute) an otherwise productive, law abiding, and, intrinsically harmless segment of the population without ultimately doing harm to ourselves. They will, and do fight back. With violent street crime. Theft. Burglary. Extortion. Money siphoned thusly from the economy to buy contraband, not only puts tremendous power in the hands of sociopaths (drug overlords), it also robs vital cash flow from the small businesses in your community, where the ciphoned local money doesn't get spent. This means fewer jobs (more crime), and a smaller local tax base. Even the most 'innocent' members of society pay for it in increased costs for insurance, security, and retail goods. At the same time that peace officers are being asked to investigate and arrest people
[CTRL] Men and ...
-Caveat Lector- From AntiWar.CoM http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html Begin article September 29, 1999 WILL THE REAL COWARD PLEASE STAND UP? The official announcement of Senator John McCain's presidential candidacy was greeted with hosannas by the man's many fans in the American media. He has earned their adulation not only on account of his support for campaign finance "reform," but especially because of his vocal support for the Kosovo war. McCain's vehemence on this subject, his insistence that we send in ground troops, was utilized to counter growing conservative opposition to the war in the Republican-controlled Congress. To the American and British media, who did not so much report the war as cheerlead it, this was his passport to almost unlimited air time. Second only to endless footage of Kosovar refugees in rags and in tears was seemingly endless footage of the eerily intense McCain demanding to know why NATO was making such a big deal about not hitting civilian targets. How many times did we have to hear McCain's vapidly evil slogan repeated in countless television appearances: "If we're in it, we've got to win it" and who cares how many women and children we kill? GOLDEN IDOL OF THE MEDIA The image of John McCain has been burnished so brightly by the adoring media that its shining light is blinding to the casual observer. McCain is universally depicted as a war hero who endured years of torture at the hand s of the Vietnamese Communists, and who bravely refused to be released while others were not. This living saint is often lauded by his media cheerleaders as having "taken the high road," not only for his stance on campaig n finance but especially for his denunciation of Pat Buchanan. THE ANTI-BUCHANAN McCain has made a point of going after Buchanan in the ugliest and most confrontational way, demanding that Pat hurry up and leave the GOP and sanctimoniously declaring that Pat had "dishonored the memory" of World War II veterans by writing A Republic, Not an Empire, a book that champions a revisionist history of World War II and calls for a noninterventionist foreign policy for the U.S. In his kickoff speech, McCain not only indirectly rebuked George Bush for lack of foreign policy experience, he also directed an insult at Buchanan and the vehemence and venom in his voice was as unmistakable as his target: THOSE COWARDLY ISOLATIONISTS "We Americans are a strong confident people. We know that in open competition our ideals, our ingenuity, and our courage ensure our success. Isolationism and protectionism are a fool's errand. We should build no walls in a futile attempt to keep the world at bay. Walls are for cowards, not for us." A TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE Quite clearly McCain was saying that Buchanan is a coward. Buchanan's foreign policy of America First, a noninterventionist and peaceful foreign policy, in McCain's view amounts to hiding behind "walls" the stance of a coward. With his allies in the media gang egging him on, just as they no doubt once egged on the class bully, the macho McCain thinks he can easily take out Buchanan, who is already taking heavy incoming fire from all sides. But everyone knows that if you scratch a bully, you are likely to find a real coward and, as it turns out, McCain is a textbook example of the species. SAINT McCAIN? McCain's usefulness as the liberals' favorite "conservative" makes him popular with the media elite, but it is his story that makes him interesting: from a prison cell in Hanoi to the US Senate. It almost sounds like a made-for- television movie, and one can only wonder when McCain will sell the movie rights to his book or have they already started to speculate on what Hollywood macho man will get to play McCain? The aura of nobility and military authority that hovers over him like a halo, a veritable aurora borealis of virtue, has so far blocked any inquiries into his "war hero" bona fides. Draping himself in the flag, he wears his status as a War Hero like a protective cloak. But he can't hide his face, and on that subject I can't outdo Camille Paglia, with her ex-ray eyes and razor-sharp tongue, and so I won't even try. In her Salon column, she writes: CAMERAS DON'T LIE http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/1999/09/22/paglia/index1.html "The TV camera does not lie: Just as it showed from the get-go that ex-Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich was a nervous shifty, sweaty, petulant mental adolescent, so has it exposed McCain over time as a seething nest of proto- fascist impulses. Despite his recent flurry of radiant, P.R.-coached grins, McCain has the weirdly wary and over-intense eyes of Howard Hughes and the clenched, humorless jaw line of Nurse Diesel (from Mel Brooks' Hitchcock parody, 'High Anxiety'". NOT QUITE RIGHT Well said, Camille but there is more to it than that. The wariness and over- intensity mask a seething guilt that threatens to erupt, at any moment, like a stream of hot lava boiling up to the
Re: [CTRL] Homeo Hit Piece
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/28/99 8:35:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the gibbering of the boastfully ignorant is hardly of any use to a person capable of independent thought and personal research. So knock it off Asheville Dave!!! It's always amusing to watch the Budwieser crowd Oh, the "Budweiser crowd"...you talkin' to me??? Please, though Bud DOES sponser the last vestige (look it up) of sport, Boxing, I prefer a good stout...(Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout is awesome...Guiness is good too, but 'tis a DOUBLE stout) I don't want to resort to namecalling (Insert redneck/hayseed joke here) Let's just admit that some people respect science but the masses tend to worship at the alter of pseudoscience and quackery...I guess patent medicines are still a popular item down in Asheville huh? Maybe a nice poultice for your colitis? A bleeding for your ill-balanced humours??? Whatever Goob. It's your health and your call...I like effective medicine...You prefer faith healing...call it a cultural difference... Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ] Homeo Hit Piece
-Caveat Lector- Bill Why dont you takea look at David Bohm, the late and famed physicist. Light years ahead of Robert Park. Bohms great contribution to science is the concept of the "implicate order"...this apparently hasnt hit the textbooks yet and certainly is foreign to Robert Parks thinking.and knowledge. In extreme simplicity according to Bohm there are two levels or dimensions to reality (a) a surface reality in physical and biological phenomena (this is what you subscribe to) and (2 } a deeper level which we can observe only indirectly and which has a transdisciplinary quality. A full description of science must include the second level which Bohm terms "implicate " or folded inward.. This is the dimensional quality I referred to in earlier postings. Psychic phenomina, homeopathy, all these aspects that offend you are fully explaine d in Bohm...and you will see from SCIENCE CITATIONS index that an enormous amount of work in in progress..This is the frontier today. So far as I am concerened Robert Park is back in the 1950's clinging to higher energy physics as a meal ticket... It is this second level that I describe in THE VIEW FROM 4-SPACE but in terms of technologies missed through limited thinking.. TONY SUTTON. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] fw: paradox
-Caveat Lector- Subject: A Paradox of our Time in History -- George Carlin The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings, but shorter tempers; wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less; we buy more, but enjoy it less. We have bigger houses and smaller families; more conveniences, but less time; we have more degrees, but less sense; more knowledge, but less judgment; more experts, but more problems; more medicine, but less wellness. We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry too quickly, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too seldom, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We've learned how to make a living, but not a life; we've added years to life, not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor. We've conquered outer space, but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things. We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've split the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information to produce more copies than ever, but have less communication. These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion; tall men, and short character; steep profits, and shallow relationships. These are the times of world peace, but domestic warfare; more leisure, but less fun; more kinds of food, but less nutrition. These are days of two incomes, but more divorce; of fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throw-away morality, one-night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the show window and nothing in the stockroom; a time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete. -George Carlin DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] MRE'S
-Caveat Lector- The below is pretty interesting and what does it mean and what is going on? Has anyone heard of this going on anyplace else? Love, Bette +++ What an interesting morning. First, a letter from a news reporter asking information about a TT page I am the contact for, then emails coming in telling me stuff. Finally, the reporter wrote me and informed me that we got a little plug from Gary North this morning.(link at bottom of this letter) I will just copy it so you can read and/or comment and forward anymore letters that I get. Gary Norths topic was Martial Law. Clipper Clipper wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Clipper, Dave Hayes here, from The Kansas City Star. I'm interested in your report on the caves and government MREs posted on zetatalk.com. Can you tell me more? Which caves? What agency they're being unloaded for? Is this different than the usual government surplus food which is stored in the caves? Any help you can give me would be appreciated. I can be reached at 234-4904 or by e-mail here. Thanks in advance, Dave Dave Hayes Technology Writer The Kansas City Star 1729 Grand Blvd. Kansas City, Mo. 64108 816-234-4904 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Dave, It took me a few minutes to find out where you where coming from. There is much information in Zetatalk and Troubled Times on many different subjects. Thank goodness for search able technology. I found the web page you were referring to at http://www.zetatalk3.com/theword/tword20b.htm This is what I have after searching through old emails with one exception, the email address where this came from. I will forward your message to this address and confirm that they wish to be contacted. I left a few good tips in there for you. I don't think there will be any problems since as you can see, they wished for this to be pursued. But, people change. I hope you pursue this also. Just don't get your self shot taking pictures and geting information I hope you will forward to us. Clipper *** Troubled Times gossip mailing list *** This came from another list. Sounds like uncle sam or his dictator, the UN is getting ready for something big. As a side note ... MRE's cost about $50 US for each case. Clipper - IUFO Mailing List From: Hi, This is off the Ark list. Interesting. S. Below are two differnet notes that I received today. I took all the return paths off of these so that they can be passed around. I personally know both sources and they are EXTREMELY credible. Perhaps we can locate a source near Kansas City..to look into this (with pictures)..I am MOST curious... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - name Here's the post I received yesterday from a Y2K chat friend regarding the situation. The second message is one I received today from him. He'll be keeping me posted on what else he learns. Jeff Yesterday's Post--- Dear friends, As some of you know, I live in a poor and working class neighborhood in kansas city, and am involved with various activities that help poor people become less poor. As part of this, I often take in people who are homeless, or would be if not for a safe harbor. One of my housemates just got a four month temporary job unloading trucks at an underground storage center located near my neighborhood (KC has a lot of underground limestone caves that are used for storage). Anyway, this particular contract is a government contract, and the product being unloaded and stored is MRE's. that is, "meal ready to eat", which i believe is the current incarnation of the old army c rations. how many mre's are on a truck? all day, 8 hours a day, for four months. that is a LOT of meals ready to eat. Note that I didn't hear this from somebody who heard from somebody, i heard this from somebody in my own household who is unloading the mres, beginning at 7:30 in the am. Three things: First, I am comforted to know that this large amount of food is being stored here locally. Second, if you have any fiends or acquaintances who do temporary labor or casual jobs, you might ask around and see if any such operations are going on in your city.Three, somebody is taking this really seriously. mre's aren't cheap. Today's Post -- Dear Jeff and everybody, Today they unloaded nine trucks, and then were let go early because some additional expected trucks didn't show. It takes two guys about 1-1/2 hours to unload a truck, and each gets $35. Don't know if this space has been used to store mre's before, but that's on the list of questions to scope out. It does seem to be a government contract, the supervisors seem sure of that. It has been confirmed that this is new, that is, it isn't the regular cold storage location for Ft. Leonard Wood, etc. One of the other laborers said that each truck had 3500 cases, so today there were nine trucks times 3500 cases equals 31,500 cases. Anybody know how many mre's are in a case? This would seem to be literally an
[CTRL] Columbine Crapola.
-Caveat Lector- COLUMBINE "MARTYRDOM," OTHER DETAILS BEING QUESTIONED AS OFFICIAL PROBE WINDS DOWN The official probe into the April 20, 1999 shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado is expected to end shortly, according a spokesman for the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department. Already, though, the investigation may be casting doubts on some of the earlier reports about the incident which left 14 students and a teacher dead. The two gunmen involved in the slayings who were also Columbine students, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, committed suicide after their rampage. One finding concerns the case of Cassie Bernall, the 17-year old student who reportedly was confronted by Klebold and was asked if she believed in God. At least one witness claimed that the encounter took place, and that Bernall replied "Yes" and was then shot. Since the incident, Bernall has been described as a modern day martyr for her Christian faith. Last week, her parents published a book about their daughter's life and death titled: "She Said Yes: The Unlikely Martyrdom of Cassie Bernall." The story of Bernall's alleged heroism has been widely reported in the media and even cited on the floor of the U.S. Congress. Early coverage of the Columbine shooting, raised questions as to whether this incident ever took place. The initial news reports were sketchy, and there was no confirmation that any of the witnesses to the alleged encounter were actually present in the school library where the shooting occurred, or could have clearly seen or heard the events they so dramatically described. Also, a note should be made of the possible factors which were fueling the desire to believe the story of Bernall's "martyrdom". There were serious questions about whether the media should have printed the story of Bernall's death based on little or no evidence. * On Friday, the Denver Rocky Mountain News noted: "Columbine shooting victim may not have been asked whether she believed in God." Writers Dan Luzadder and Katie Kerwin McCrimmon reported that weeks after she died, investigators informed Bernall's parents that the "now-famous" encounter between their daughter and Klebold may not have occurred The girl's mother, Misty Klebold, still proceeded with publication of the book which was printed and distributed by Plough. Nearly 300,000 copies have been distributed to bookstores, and Associated Press notes that reorders are now coming in. The Rocky Mountain News story notes that despite early claims by some students that the conversation between Klebold and Bernall occurred, "It was discrepancies in student accounts that led police to question the Bernall testimonial." A freshman declared that Bernall had affirmed her belief in god, "Plain and simple." Another student, though, identified as 16-year-old Emily Wyant, "tells a different story" and was reportedly crouched underneath a table two feet from Bernall when Dylan Klebold opened fire. "They were the only two students studying together at the table in the back of the library" when the shooting occurred, notes the News. "She (Bernall) was saying, 'Dear God. Dear God. Why is this happening? I just want to go home," Emily said" Sources report that more than fifty students were present in the library at the time of the gun play. Interviews with witnesses, though, produced mixed results. Police were able to obtain "detailed minute aspects of the case, including who said what to whom in the school library, and elsewhere, during the rampage." But at least one potential source of the Bernall encounter with Klebold came from a student who "did not actually see the individuals involved." When asked by investigators later to point out where Klebold and Harris were at that time of the shootings, he pointed to a table where a different student victim identified as Valeen Schnurr, and not Cassie Bernall, had been hiding. A variant of the Bernall martyrdom account, though, is being advanced by Schnurr's mother, according to the News. She reportedly says that her daughter was lying on the library floor with more than 15 bullet wound "praying out loud, when gunman approached her and asked if she believed in God, and she responded, 'Yes, I believe in God." Schnurr was spared and managed to survive. In reporting the new doubts about the Bernall slaying, Reuters news service quoted police spokesperson Steve Davis who noted: "There just seems to be a real question whether the dialogue (between Bernall and Klebold) took place." He added that "The Bernalls were made aware there seemed to be some doubt." On Saturday, the Bernall family issued a press statement defending the accuracy of the book about Cassie Bernall, but adding "If any of our actions have hurt or offended someone, we sincerely apologize..." * Equally provocative but less certain is the story which appeared last Wednesday night on the Salon Magazine (Salon.com) web site which was billed
Re: [CTRL] Israel -- WANTED: Holy Blood
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps Biblically speaking... with regards to the article below we have a clear case for the fact spoken of in the Bible; specifically: "... I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich), and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews (Idumeans) and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." Revelation 2:9 - KJV "... Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; Behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Revelation 3:9 - Original Message - From: Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Israel -- WANTED: "Holy Blood" -Caveat Lector- At 11:28 AM 9-28-1999 +0200, you wrote: Mr David Goldstein a geneticist at oxford university talks about a 'cohen' genetic signature. About 45% of Askenazic priests and 56% of Sephardic priests have the 'cohen' signature. This shows the story of the Askhenazi being descendants of the Khazars as being incorrect (unless of course the Khazars were one of the lost ten tribes) Khazars may originally have been Edomites (or Hittites). Khazar tradition holds that they originally came from Mt. Seir in Edom. The Edomites were the ancient, major enemies of the Jews. John Hyrcanus' army defeated the neighboring Edomites and forced them all to *become* Jews (get circumcized or be killed) in 125 BC. The Edomites then practically took over Judea. The name 'Judea' was soon changed to 'Idumea' (Edom land). Their kings were the 'Jewish' Edomite Herodian dynasty (who built Herod's Temple). Many (or most?) Jewish Pharisees (not Saducees) were Edomite Jews. The Pharisees took over and put the Saducees out of business. The Jewish Encyclopedia says 'Edom is in modern Jewry.' (Many parts of the Bible are devoted to cursing all Edomites to death, including the entire Jewish book of Obadiah. Ban that bad book?) John As an aside, other gentic test appear to show that the Jews are more closely related to the armenians rather than the semites. The Book of the Prophet Ezekiel, from about 500 B.C.: 16:1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 16:2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations, 16:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite. WHO ARE THE MODERN JEWS? By Scott Stinson http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/hittites.htm In this age of brain-dead media programmed zombies, would it still be possible for the facts to speak? If so, there is something worth saying about the modern "Jewish" race, not written by anti-semites, but by Jews themselves -- and where else but in The Jewish Encyclopedia! Please excuse me for being so abrupt, but I had to get your attention. You see, this article is worth reading because it has some facts that you need to know about the authenticity of today's Jewish race. The question that must be asked as well as answered is simple: Are the modern Jews really the descendants of the ancient people of Israel? The source of our information is also quite simple: The Jewish Encyclopedia. Hopefully we will not find any anti-Semitism in the writings of these Jewish scholars. However, the reader should be forewarned. Their articles were written long before the age of mass-media social engineering and do not contain any of the familiar buzz-words common to today's new views. In other words, brace yourself for a factual scientific analysis of the racial origins of the modern Jews. Oh, and should you decide to verify any of these facts, you will find them in your local library in the 1901-1905 edition of The Jewish Encyclopedia. So, please, do read on. At the turn of the last century there was great interest stirring in the science of anthropology. In the wake of this, Jewish scholarship turned its watchful eye upon itself and began to examine the racial claims that modern Jews make to the ancestral heritage of ancient Israel. The results were startling. The religious community found itself completely alienated by its scientific counterpart. The scientific method was coming face to face with religious traditions and there was a great unsettling in the land. The facts were telling a different story than what had been heard for centuries in the local synagogue. In his article on Purity of Race, Joseph Jacobs relates something of the dilemma that was gripping the Jewish community at this time. He writes: "The question whether the Jews of today are in the main descended from the Jews of Bible times, and from them alone, is still undecided" (Jew. Enc. X (1905),
Re: [CTRL] memory research
-Caveat Lector- Here are some URL's with information on "false memories." Sincerely, Neil Brick False Memory Syndrome Vs. Recovered Memories has many links on this topic, at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Arael_ET_AL/did-fms.htm Some are written by skeptics. (The articles on this page may be triggering. Please use caution.) Law and Social Inquiry - Journal of the American Bar Foundation, Volume 22, Number 3, Summer 1997 has an article called "Suppressing Memory" by Lynne Henderson (The University of Chicago Press) "it would be an injustice to declare all recovered memory unreliable and to adopt a legal rule precluding testimony based on such memory." A Consolidation of SRA and False Memory Data by James Quan is available at http://www.iccom.com/usrwww/jlquan.consldra.doc from http://www.feminista.com/v1n9/false-memory.html (all accusations are alleged) Quotes from "False Memory Syndrome: A False Construct" by Juliette Cutler Page The concept of "recovered memory", that is, memory of a traumatic event that had been forgotten for some period of time, has been variously explained by such mechanisms as repression, amnesia, and dissociation. However, there are over 100 years of reports and descriptions of recovered memory in the literature, including instances from times of war, torture, bereavement, natural disasters, and concentration camp imprisonment. (HOROWITZ) Many corroborated cases have been documented in instances of recovered memory of sexual abuse, as well, which will be discussed later in this paper. Responses to trauma now termed, for example, "repression", "Post-traumatic stress disorder", or "dissociation" have been recognized literally for thousands of years. Dr. Freyds memories were supported by other family members. Her uncle William, Peters brother, stated in a letter that "theres no doubt in my mind that there was severe abuse The false memory syndrome foundaton is a fraud designed to deny a reality that Peter and Pam have spent most of their lives trying to escape. Theres no such thing as a false memory syndrome. It is not, by any normal standard, a foundation. Neither Peter nor Pam have any significant mental health expertise."(FREYD LETTER) Members of the FMSF are largely individuals who seek to defend themselves from accusations of sexual abuse of children. The FMSF does not attempt to determine whether these members are falsely accused or not. However, everyone who contacts their organization is included in their statistics of "falsely accused". There is little discrimination or skepticism, although members often criticize supporters of survivors of sexual abuse for believing the survivors. The FMSF believes that women who report recovered memories of sexual abuse are led by therapists to accuse their own families of abuse from their own sincere belief of incidents which did not occur. However, the FMSF provides no research or statistics to support this claim. Much FMSF evidence appears to be anecdotal. The FMSF has even appeared to falsify its own membership statistics - for example, in the June 7, 1995 newsletter, Accuracy About Abuse, the following notice appeared: The American False Memory Syndrome Foundation is widely quoted as having 16,000 families as members but recently Peter Freyd admitted they have only about 2500 dues paying members. The British False Memory Society which maintains close links with the American FMSF, now admits to 230 paid members as of December 1994, not the 650 more usually reported. Ralph Underwager (who coined the term "false memory syndrome") and Hollida Wakefield, a married couple on the original FMSF Board of Advisors, have gone so far as to claim that "the women who make false allegations based on recovered memories [are] very angry, hostile, and sometimes paranoid... All will have demonstrated some type of psychopathology in earlier parts of their lives." (1984) Again, no evidence to support this is given. Neither do they state how such accusations have been determined to be false. Nor do Wakefield and Underwager consider why such women might justifiably be angry or appear "paranoid". In recent years, one of the most controversial concepts in psychology has been that of "recovered memory". Many therapists have become wary of treating clients who appear to have recovered memories of abuse after a long period of forgetting. Among the reasons for this concern are extremely vocal organizations that have come forward in support of accused abusers, claiming that there is no such thing as "recovered memory", and often stating that not only are therapists who treat such clients negligent, but that therapists are in fact themselves creating these memories in their clients. This article will discuss the origins and methods of the primary such organization (the False Memory Syndrome Foundation), and in so doing, address relevant issues of memory and the experience of abuse. The concept of "recovered memory", that is,
[CTRL] Fw: Smokers Away
-Caveat Lector- http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=303FS=+Smokers+ Away+ By Gregory Bresiger[Posted September 27, 1999] The hypocrisy of the federal government appears limitless. Now its suing the big tobacco companies for $25 billion. Mind you, theyre not going after the cigar companies, which, of course, dont have deep pockets. Just cigarettes smokers and makersAmericas most embattled minority. How can the government sue these companies? It sanctioned the sale of cigarettes for years. It collected billions of dollars in taxes. It gave free butts to its military for decades. It knew for years that smokes are dangerous. But it waits until now to say anything about illegality? Moreover, the government is headed by a man who smokes cigars, and the number two man in the government used to brag that he farmed tobacco (that is until he found out that he could exploit his sisters death from lung cancer to win re-election in 1996). On what legal or moral basis can the government sue? Its one thing for an individual to sue big tobacco--although how someone could say he or she didnt know that too much smoking causes health problems is a great mystery. But the government has all the legal authority to do this as a bunch of shakedown artists. The government has gotten rich off the profits of big tobacco. Now, apparently, it wants a lot more. If theres any crime here, the government is virtually a co-conspirator. The government was delighted to collect huge taxes. If smoking was wrong---and apparently only smoking cigs is evil, not, for the moment, cigars or pipes---why did the government accept the billions of dollars in taxes? Why did it push these products with its military? By the way, the government, with its vast resources at both the federal and state levels, can sue you, me or any industry. It can destroy a persons life (see the Sedition Act period of World War I, FDRs political prosecutions, and recent targeted audits). It can destroy an industry (private railroads, housing in New York City that was ruined by idiotic, politically motivated rent control laws, etc), but what practical recourse does the individual have when a government blunders? Meanwhile, Janet Reno will never have to worry about the consequences of any ridiculous lawsuits shes filed. Even if you dont care about the fate of tobacco companies per se, you should care about private property. If the government can arrogate the private property of tobacco execs, then it can take the property of anyone and everyone. I am reminded of the Robert Caro biography of Robert Moses (Power Broker). In the 20s, the New York public seemed to cheer when Moses ran roughshod over the rights of the rich who owned estates on Long Island so he could start building the state park system. That was ok. Who doesnt hate the rich? Along with obese people in 1999, these are minorities who one can rip and suffer no consequences. However, later in his career, when Moses moved against working-class neighborhoods in the Bronx and Brooklyn, then--- and only then---did Moses finally run into some opposition, although the Cross-Bronx Expressway (a monument to the stupidity and arrogance of government planners) was still built. Every time my car goes over this nightmare of a road I think of the poltroon pols who were happy to allow Moses to have unlimited power as long as he trampled on the rights of politically impotent groups. Where will this all end? Today, the tobacco industry. Tomorrow the liquor industry. Whats after that? Who knows? But remember hooligans dont stop after one or two successes. They become emboldened and will go after anyone and everyone that the pc police momentarily decides has run afoul of their standards. Careers are wrecked. Businesses destroyed. Liberty is endangered. Woodrow Wilson, the great hero of todays liberals (who really are more socialists than liberals) should read up on history. Wilson illegally jailed tens of thousands of Americans whose crime was they opposed World War I. FDR not only jailed loyal Japanese-Americans, he connived in the theft of their property. Wilsons actions, of course, encouraged government and private patriotic groups to outlaw the teaching of German and the playing of Beethoven. That this same government sets itself up as a moral authority; that it implicitly claims the right to persecute people for ex-posto facto crimes, is why I believe the only way for liberty to be safe in any country is to have a weak, de-centralized, limited government. Wasnt that the promise of the original constitution, which, unsurprisingly, is scorned by todays pc types? The rule of law---especially the concept of the Der Rechtsstaat, a German philosophical legal tradition holding that governments must be subject to
[CTRL] Globalists The Family Under Siege
-Caveat Lector- Alice Bailey rules for UN policymaking. Subject: Just FYI: Globalists The Family Under Siege September 24, 1999 PERSPECTIVE - FAMILY UNDER SIEGE by JANN FLURY 905-571-4811 Insidious undertows in all the social infrastructures have been eroding the traditional family over the years, and now institutions within our establishment intend to separate children from parents at infancy: the signs are there for all to see who care to look. Proponents of such a plan exist within the scientific community, within the social services bureaucracies, our education system, many special interest groups, and human rights organizations. Reasons for supporting such an egregious and absurd plan vary from misguided socialistic ideology, nefarious selfish interests, to manipulative control over society, such as is envisioned by the UN, who is longing to fulfil their dream of a global society and a one-world-government under their control. Through their scheme OUR children will become THEIR "human capital," which they will mold into uniformly benign pieces that fit together to make up their Utopian, egalitarian society. The pretext used by all the factions involved in this plot of institutionalized "kidnaping" is the same: quite simply, they say, it is in the best interests of the children, of the parents, of society, and the future of all mankind. They say parents have not been reliable nurturers or providers of adequate mental stimulus for optimum early childhood mind development. In other words, the establishment says, parents don t know how to best bring up their children, and the task must be turned over to the "experts" and their scientifically regulated, impersonal child-rearing institutions. That way, the state can inculcate its philosophy on future generations and the will of the state will become the will of the people, instead of the other way around. The concept of the state raising the children is not new. It is a commonly accepted socialistic concept that leads to a homogenized, egalitarian society, without individual or collective conscience or moral fibre. Still, the advocates of such a destructive scheme are steadily gaining ground. Robert Muller, one-time Assistant Secretary General of the UN, proposed a "World Core Curriculum" (WCC). His philosophy is based on the teachings set forth in the books of Alice A. Bailey who was a leader in the Theosophical Society and a disciple of the Russian born Helena P. Blavatsky, who was a medium, and one of the founders of the Theosophical Society in the 1870s. Muller's WCC is acclaimed by UNESCO and UNICEF. The concept of Muller's teachings is to produce an egalitarian society, working cooperatively, in harmony, and without competition or strife--without individual thought or opinion. Most significantly, Muller looks to take away the student's early childhood and family influence! --replace it with a "global family." He suggests that education of a child should start from birth and be oriented to the "macrocosm" and that early family influences somehow promote "an egocentric mind set" and will result in a negative or undesirable outcome (in other words, the traditional family must be abolished for the good of society). An article explaining new findings on "how a child s brain develops and what it means for child care and education" appeared in the June 9, 1997 issue of "Time" magazine. That article helped to popularize the concept of institutionalized "child-rearing farms." It points out that we live in an age where "mothers and fathers are increasingly pressed for time.. ." and that the data in the study underscore "the importance of hands-on parenting . . . and to provide infants with stimulating experiences." And the article points out that child-development experts say "there is an urgent need for preschool programs designed to boost the brain power of youngsters born into impoverished rural and inner-city households." The article provides the ammunition for the next phase of the argument: that the state should take over and implement institutionalized child rearing and training from infancy. Following along, right in line with the above article but independently, the Harris Government found it politically helpful to call for a study on early childhood learning. The report for the government, entitled "Early Years Study," co-chaired by Margaret McCain and J. Fraser Mustard was released in early 1999. Basically, the report stresses the importance of nurturing of the infant from birth, points out that parenting is not always adequate, and that "early child development and parenting centres" must be set up by the state. Although, ostensibly, well intentioned, the report in its recommendations leans heavily toward institutionalizing early childhood learning, and offers no viable alternatives for the natural parents on how to improve their role as nurturers. The report stresses that children must be stimulated and taught the right way long
[CTRL] Fw: SNET: New York Post: UN Reviving Communism
-Caveat Lector- This is very interesting about UN. Communism just make things fairer altogether ? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, 16 July 1999 6:55 Subject: SNET: New York Post: UN Reviving Communism - SNETNEWS Mailing List Source: New York Post http://www.nypost.com/editorial/10902.htm"http://www.nypost.com/editorial/1 0902.htm Editorial IS THE UNITED NATIONS TRYING TO REVIVE COMMUNISM? The United Nations, a corrupt and corrupting institution that grew out of the crackpot notion of an enlightened world government, doesnt like the direction in which the global economy is going. Its predictable solution: world government, with the U.N. in charge. Ummm, no thanks. The great economic problem in the world, according to a new report by the United Nations Development Programme, is that markets are just working too well. Yes, you read that right: The U.N. thinks that the explosion of worldwide freedom that has followed the end of communism is no fair. This explosion goes by the name of "globalization," and its the purpose of the U.N. report to turn the word "globalization" into an epithet. Competitive markets may guarantee efficiency, the U.N. report says, but they do not guarantee equality. In other words, eight years after Boris Yeltsin jumped on a tank and sealed the doom of the Soviet Union, some people and some countries are far richer than others - and thats no fair! "By the late 1990s," write the reports authors, "the fifth of the worlds people living in the highest income countries had 86 percent of world GDP and the bottom fifth had just 1 percent." No fair! Though technology is providing the world with previously unimaginable benefits, its not being used in the right way, according to the U.N. Rather, it should be used for "eradicating poverty." Alas, that goal is supposedly not on the agenda: "Cosmetic drugs and slow-ripening tomatoes come higher on the priority list than drought-resistant crops or a vaccine against malaria." No fair! You might think that amazing advances have already been made in the world of medicine in the United States when it comes to vaccines and drugs and that sort of thing, but the U.N. doesnt dwell on those. When it condemns the refusal of "technology" to find "drought-resistant crops" it conveniently ignores the unbelievable bounty offered to the world by U.S. scientist Norman Borlaug and his "green revolution." These technological improvements have all taken place because the U.S. has a free-market economy that offers spectacular rewards to those who figure out new ways and new techniques to improve the lives of those around them. If any country in the world is to develop a vaccine against malaria, it will be the United States - because the drug company that finds the vaccine will profit from it as a result. But the backward-looking pseudo-intelligences behind the U.N. report refuse to see this. What they see is that technology is out of reach for the poor, and the laws governing patents do not pay enough attention to the "knowledge of indigenous people." All these troubles, it seems, could be solved by the reinvention of national and global governance so that "human development and equity" is foremost. Because the current "institutions of international governance are inadequate for the challenges of the 21st century," the report suggests some new ideas. Topping the list, naturally, is a "stronger and more coherent United Nations," followed by institutions like a world environmental agency and a world investment trust with redistributive functions. A world ruled by people like those who wrote this report is a world this planet has known all too well, to its infinite sorrow. Its a world of bureaucrats who believe not in equality, but in egalitarianism, and will stifle everybody who disagrees. The centralization of power in the hands of these bureaucrats in the name of the "poor" leads inevitably to a dictatorship in their name. In other words, its communism all over again. Globalization is just the new word these neo-Communists are going to use now that capitalism sounds good. The good news is that ideas like these have had their day. The bad news is that the bureaucrats of the United Nations are still sitting on their duffs in that monstrosity on the East River, trying to figure out ways to enhance their roles in the world. Theres a lot of talk about how the United States owes a lot to the United Nations in the form of "arrears" for its "dues" - money the U.N. needs to support efforts like this noxious report. The very fact that this report exists should be reason enough for Republicans in the House and Senate to see to it that this ideological cesspool of an organization receives not even so much as a Lincoln penny. - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: "Mark A. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL
Re: [CTRL] Fw: SNET: New York Post: UN Reviving Communism
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- Only in America...! No doubt the minion who wrote this Editorial will receive a nice little bonus from his Trilateralist bosses. - Original Message - From: Nicky Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 11:50 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: SNET: New York Post: UN Reviving Communism -Caveat Lector- This is very interesting about UN. Communism just make things fairer altogether ? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, 16 July 1999 6:55 Subject: SNET: New York Post: UN Reviving Communism - SNETNEWS Mailing List Source: New York Post http://www.nypost.com/editorial/10902.htm"http://www.nypost.com/editorial/1 0902.htm Editorial IS THE UNITED NATIONS TRYING TO REVIVE COMMUNISM? The United Nations, a corrupt and corrupting institution that grew out of the crackpot notion of an enlightened world government, doesnt like the direction in which the global economy is going. Its predictable solution: world government, with the U.N. in charge. Ummm, no thanks. The great economic problem in the world, according to a new report by the United Nations Development Programme, is that markets are just working too well. Yes, you read that right: The U.N. thinks that the explosion of worldwide freedom that has followed the end of communism is no fair. This explosion goes by the name of "globalization," and its the purpose of the U.N. report to turn the word "globalization" into an epithet. Competitive markets may guarantee efficiency, the U.N. report says, but they do not guarantee equality. In other words, eight years after Boris Yeltsin jumped on a tank and sealed the doom of the Soviet Union, some people and some countries are far richer than others - and thats no fair! "By the late 1990s," write the reports authors, "the fifth of the worlds people living in the highest income countries had 86 percent of world GDP and the bottom fifth had just 1 percent." No fair! Though technology is providing the world with previously unimaginable benefits, its not being used in the right way, according to the U.N. Rather, it should be used for "eradicating poverty." Alas, that goal is supposedly not on the agenda: "Cosmetic drugs and slow-ripening tomatoes come higher on the priority list than drought-resistant crops or a vaccine against malaria." No fair! You might think that amazing advances have already been made in the world of medicine in the United States when it comes to vaccines and drugs and that sort of thing, but the U.N. doesnt dwell on those. When it condemns the refusal of "technology" to find "drought-resistant crops" it conveniently ignores the unbelievable bounty offered to the world by U.S. scientist Norman Borlaug and his "green revolution." These technological improvements have all taken place because the U.S. has a free-market economy that offers spectacular rewards to those who figure out new ways and new techniques to improve the lives of those around them. If any country in the world is to develop a vaccine against malaria, it will be the United States - because the drug company that finds the vaccine will profit from it as a result. But the backward-looking pseudo-intelligences behind the U.N. report refuse to see this. What they see is that technology is out of reach for the poor, and the laws governing patents do not pay enough attention to the "knowledge of indigenous people." All these troubles, it seems, could be solved by the reinvention of national and global governance so that "human development and equity" is foremost. Because the current "institutions of international governance are inadequate for the challenges of the 21st century," the report suggests some new ideas. Topping the list, naturally, is a "stronger and more coherent United Nations," followed by institutions like a world environmental agency and a world investment trust with redistributive functions. A world ruled by people like those who wrote this report is a world this planet has known all too well, to its infinite sorrow. Its a world of bureaucrats who believe not in equality, but in egalitarianism, and will stifle everybody who disagrees. The centralization of power in the hands of these bureaucrats in the name of the "poor" leads inevitably to a dictatorship in their name. In other words, its communism all over again. Globalization is just the new word these neo-Communists are going to use now that capitalism sounds good. The good news is that ideas like these have had their day. The bad news is that the bureaucrats of the United Nations are still sitting on their duffs in that monstrosity on the East River, trying to figure out ways to enhance their roles in the world. Theres a lot of talk about how the United States owes a lot to
[CTRL] Fw: The Chile Files Redux / Focus on the Corporation / more ...
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 4:07 PM Subject: The Chile Files Redux / Focus on the Corporation / more ... M O J O U R N A L A week's worth from the MoJo Wire and Mother Jones magazine September 29, 1999 http://www.motherjones.com/ E A S T T I M O R C O V E R A G E *The Struggle for East Timor* - Stay tuned to the MoJo Wire as we cover the unfolding events in East Timor. http://www.motherjones.com/east_timor *Alt.news* - Our updates from around the web are posted throughout the day, every weekday. NEW THIS WEEK: Gusmao building East Timorese government; militias threaten retribution against Interfet; UN to investigate war crimes * More... http://www.motherjones.com/east_timor/altnews/index.html T O P S T O R Y ___ *The Chile Files Redux* - As extradition hearings begin in Britain over the fate of Gen. Augusto Pinochet, the US prepares to declassify even more government documents relating to its complicity in the dictator's brutal regime. This batch could prove even more damning than those released three months ago. http://www.motherjones.com/news_wire/chiledocs.html F O C U S O N T H E C O R P O R A T I O N __ *AIDS Patients Win Over Big Money* - Thanks to well-orchestrated pressure, the U.S. makes a 180 on plans to block AIDS drugs to South Africa http://www.motherjones.com/fotc/fotc4.html M O T H E R J O N E S __ We are now posting articles from the September/October issue. http://www.motherjones.com/mother_jones/SO99/ Featured this week: *The End of the Absolute No* - The American left's reflexive opposition to U.S. military intervention broke down over Kosovo. A veteran activist says it's about time. http://www.motherjones.com/mother_jones/SO99/gitlin.html M U S T R E A D S MoJo Wire editors' picks from around the Web, uncovering the stories and viewpoints you haven't heard. Updated daily. NEW THIS WEEK: ABC News, Stossel get low marks * School of Americas still in business * Less for kids, more for rigs http://www.motherjones.com/mustreads/ Last week's Must Reads: http://www.motherjones.com/mustreads/092099.html S N A P P O L L ___ THIS WEEK: Last week, four children were killed in eastern Kosovo when: 1) they were caught in the crossfire during a confrontation between KFOR troops and Serbian nationalists 2) their home was torched by Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) soldiers 3) they picked up an unexploded cluster bomblet left over from NATO's bombardment last spring 4) they stepped on a landmine near their village VOTE AT: http://www.motherjones.com/index.html#poll LAST WEEK: On Monday, Sept. 20, a Texas jury convicted white supremacist Lawrence Russell Brewster of murder for last year's brutal dragging death of James Byrd Jr. -- a black man -- in Texas. If he is sentenced to death, he could be paroled in as few as 40 years. Another suspect in the crime was found guilty and sentenced to death in February. What do think is the most appropriate sentence? 39.27% said Life in prison without parole 39.15% said Death 14.91% said 40 years in prison with rehabilitation and counseling 6.67% said Life in prison with option for parole in 40 years J O B S A T M O T H E R J O N E S Current Mother Jones job openings: Got a nose for news, Web wisdom, or an eye for political art? There might be a place for you. http://www.motherjones.com/info/jobs.html G E T M E O F F T H I S L I S T ! To unsubscribe from this list: Go to our handy unsubscribe page, at http://www.motherjones.com/info/unsubscribe.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:]
[CTRL] Fw: 240-Constitution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: David Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:12 PM Subject: 240-Constitution Post Number 240: Constitution The Constitution. How many times have I heard that term. Hard to begin to think of the total number of times. And what is even harder to believe is how many times I have thought that I had "the Constitution" figured out. Maybe I do now, although I would not bet my freedom on it! The simple fact of the matter is that none of us were present when the arrangements for the Constitution were finalized. We do not know what the planning was for it, nor do we understand all of the secret meetings that undoubtedly took place around the conception and introduction of the Constitution. But, we can accurately measure the intent of the Constitution by simply looking at what the result of the Constitution has been; it has created a class of people who are not answerable for their actions. To understand that, I give you Bill and Hillary Clinton, and their side-kick, Al Gore. Al Gore gave everyone the answer that we have been looking for. Seven times, 7 TIMES! On national television, during the press conference when he was being questioned about his role in the illegal phone calls soliciting campaign donations from the White House, he told the nation that "there is no controlling legal authority." Perhaps Al Gore knows something that most Americans are only dimly, if at all, aware of. What Al Gore revealed is the original reason for the Constitution. He revealed that within the Constitution is a series of provisions which would put the European system of royal privilege and private law back in place in America. This would be accomplished by creating a separate jurisdiction where there is no controlling legal authority. For reference, read Article I, Section 8, Clause 17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; and this is the case law (from 1804) which explains what this clause is all about: In Downes v. Bidwell, the Supreme Court ruled that "exclusive" meant exactly that; EXCLUSIVE jurisdiction, with no control from the Constitution. (In Downes v. Bidwell, the Court ruled that "exclusive" meant "without consideration of the Constitutional restraints...") A few years later, the Supreme Court confirmed this ruling in Hooven v. Evatt, But this is all information that I explain in Part II of my Series, so, I suggest that you read it. This Post, however, is for new information; information that is designed to lift more of the scales from our eyes. And remember, as you read this, the Esquires that you deal with, voluntarily, can not and will not explain this material to you. They can not, for their privileges depend upon keeping this information carefully hidden. In addition, if you attempt to take this information into their private courts, you will lose. Their private courts are not for you; they are for government employees, and for subjects of Congress. If you are subject to their courts, you can not own land, nor can you be protected by the restrictions written into the Bill of Rights. And you do owe the so-called Income Tax, so, prepare to pay up. Another reason for this Post is the simple one; there is a solution to what is happening to America, but it is an individual solution, and not a group or national solution. Within America are two separate, distinct jurisdictions, and the original provisions for the Constitution permitted the common people to voluntarily chose whether or not they wanted to be associated with Commerce, and hence with the privileges of the King, or preferred to be free. The choice is yours, and the solution is available. The largest part of this solution is giving enough Americans the answers so that those who chose this solution are no longer considered weird, different or, as is promoted by the major media, dangerous. We simply wish to be left alone, which does not suit the parasites of man's government well at all! And it is only by this education process that any progress will be made in controlling the monster that the so-called government has become. Knowing that this Post was coming is why, to those on the List Groups, I have sent out some of the posts that I have about the deep involvement of the Vatican in money and poli-tics. Read on, my friends, and learn another small piece of the True History of America. The following came about because of a series of messages that went over the internet (with about 3 different people contributing
Re: [CTRL] Fw: SNET: New York Post: UN Reviving Communism
-Caveat Lector- This is news? I was under the impression that EVERYONE knew this about the UN already... Maybe not. Perhaps this is news to some. Seems I remember back in the 60's those signs on the side of the road... just past the "Burma Shave" signs... "Get us out of the U.N."... posted by the perverbial John Birch Society... I suppose old news is new news to some. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: Nicky Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 10:50 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: SNET: New York Post: UN Reviving Communism -Caveat Lector- This is very interesting about UN. Communism just make things fairer altogether ? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, 16 July 1999 6:55 Subject: SNET: New York Post: UN Reviving Communism - SNETNEWS Mailing List Source: New York Post http://www.nypost.com/editorial/10902.htm"http://www.nypost.com/editorial/1 0902.htm Editorial IS THE UNITED NATIONS TRYING TO REVIVE COMMUNISM? The United Nations, a corrupt and corrupting institution that grew out of the crackpot notion of an enlightened world government, doesnt like the direction in which the global economy is going. Its predictable solution: world government, with the U.N. in charge. Ummm, no thanks. The great economic problem in the world, according to a new report by the United Nations Development Programme, is that markets are just working too well. Yes, you read that right: The U.N. thinks that the explosion of worldwide freedom that has followed the end of communism is no fair. This explosion goes by the name of "globalization," and its the purpose of the U.N. report to turn the word "globalization" into an epithet. Competitive markets may guarantee efficiency, the U.N. report says, but they do not guarantee equality. In other words, eight years after Boris Yeltsin jumped on a tank and sealed the doom of the Soviet Union, some people and some countries are far richer than others - and thats no fair! "By the late 1990s," write the reports authors, "the fifth of the worlds people living in the highest income countries had 86 percent of world GDP and the bottom fifth had just 1 percent." No fair! Though technology is providing the world with previously unimaginable benefits, its not being used in the right way, according to the U.N. Rather, it should be used for "eradicating poverty." Alas, that goal is supposedly not on the agenda: "Cosmetic drugs and slow-ripening tomatoes come higher on the priority list than drought-resistant crops or a vaccine against malaria." No fair! You might think that amazing advances have already been made in the world of medicine in the United States when it comes to vaccines and drugs and that sort of thing, but the U.N. doesnt dwell on those. When it condemns the refusal of "technology" to find "drought-resistant crops" it conveniently ignores the unbelievable bounty offered to the world by U.S. scientist Norman Borlaug and his "green revolution." These technological improvements have all taken place because the U.S. has a free-market economy that offers spectacular rewards to those who figure out new ways and new techniques to improve the lives of those around them. If any country in the world is to develop a vaccine against malaria, it will be the United States - because the drug company that finds the vaccine will profit from it as a result. But the backward-looking pseudo-intelligences behind the U.N. report refuse to see this. What they see is that technology is out of reach for the poor, and the laws governing patents do not pay enough attention to the "knowledge of indigenous people." All these troubles, it seems, could be solved by the reinvention of national and global governance so that "human development and equity" is foremost. Because the current "institutions of international governance are inadequate for the challenges of the 21st century," the report suggests some new ideas. Topping the list, naturally, is a "stronger and more coherent United Nations," followed by institutions like a world environmental agency and a world investment trust with redistributive functions. A world ruled by people like those who wrote this report is a world this planet has known all too well, to its infinite sorrow. Its a world of bureaucrats who believe not in equality, but in egalitarianism, and will stifle everybody who disagrees. The centralization of power in the hands of these bureaucrats in the name of the "poor" leads inevitably to a dictatorship in their name. In other words, its communism all over again. Globalization is just the new word these neo-Communists are going to use now that capitalism sounds good. The good news is that ideas like these have had their day. The bad news is that the bureaucrats of
[CTRL] COME AND GET ME, OCTOPUS! By Kenn Thomas
-Caveat Lector- Nitro News America's Daily Net Newspaper http://www.nitronews.com/thomas.html Lots of links behind the words for this page on the above url. COME AND GET ME, OCTOPUS! KEITH CO-AUTHOR RESUMES COLUMN Commentary by Kenn Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If Fate should break my stride, I'll give you my Vincent to ride..." - Richard Thompson, 1952, Vincent Black Lightning. I don't know if I came to the Richard Thompson concert along the Mississippi riverfront this past weekend to help with closure over Jim Keith's death, but these words went a long way in that direction. Jim may have died pursuing the pregnancy angle of the Princess Diana story, and Thompson - a folk rock legend, founder of Fairport Convention, revered for his words - is a particularly smart-ass limey. He mugged a Woody Guthrie bit, singing, "This land is your land, this land is your land, this land is your land..." Thompson is also a Sufi mystic, and the sources of Jim's final column for Nitro News about Diana were Sufi. Coincidences, of course, but I confess a sentimental attachment to coincidences, and a more than unconscious desire to fit my experience over the death of Jim Keith into an understandable pattern. He's gone, and all that's left are his books, which for the fortunate reader, provide a perspective on history, on conspiracy, on what's happening right now and in the future, as rare and unique as the '52 Vincent in the Thompson song. I co-authored the Octopus with Jim Keith, and have now agreed to resume his column exclusively in Nitro News, in part as defiance against the Octopus, if that vicious beast had anything to with it. In this regard, I would like to repeat the part of the Keith column that rumor suggests led to him being offed: "In 1998, one of my Sufi contacts, who chooses to remain anonymous, travelled to London to participate in Dhikr, a remembrance of Allah. This ritual was attended by both Sufis and orthodox Muslims. My contact reports that while participating in this ceremony, he met Dodi Fayed's personal physician, a man who is a Muslim, but is not a Sufi. In private conversation, the physician told him that Diana and Dodi Fayed had planned on getting married, and that he had personally examined her and determined that she was pregnant." There, Octopus. Come after me. I don't have the name of the physician, but if it is with Jim's research and if it comes into my hands, I'll out him right away. That's what we did with Danny Casolaro's research, taking everything that was left and finishing his book. It has become a relay race of conspiracy writers, trying to get out the truth about this nasty transglobal monster before it takes us down. Maybe it's a monster of our imagining. Maybe Jim died of just a blood clot, although the anecdotal information I've accumulated suggests this is very rare. In lieu of a real investigation (still needed, although I was unsuccessful in raising money to fly to Reno for the purpose), we can only guess. In any event, I will not go quietly, and Jim cannot pass through this life without those questions being asked and pursued as best as possible. Readers unfamiliar with my work should know that I travel and lecture widely, appear regularly on radio and TV throughout the country, and I publish the conspiracy magazine Steamshovel Press. Jim parked his '52 Vincent at the Steamshovel offices on occasion, and it's still being used for the car pool. The Steamshovel take on Diana has been that she was collateral damage in an aerospace espionage hit against Dodi Fayed for the sake of the Al Yamama contract umbrella. The Saudis buy substandard military aircraft with loans from Britain that cover far more than the cost. Mohamed Al-Fayed posed a threat to this arrangement, particularly with his support of Tony Blair, and he was sent a message about it via the killing of his son. The consequent death of Diana, of course, served many ancillary purposes of the British Royals, including its racist concerns over the pregnancy. One suspected architect of the Dodi Fayed hit is his uncle, Adnan Khashoggi, who spent much of his career developing the Al Yamama contracts. Danny Casolaro was investigating him on the very day he (Casolaro) was found dead. Mohamed Al-Fayed remains resolute in his determination to find out what really happened to his son. In a recent BBC interview, primarily intended to goad him into making inflammatory statements about the Royals, he made these interesting remarks: "Al-Fayed: I hate nobody. I just want to find justice. BBC: But you have contempt for the Establishment, they have refused you British citizenship. Al-Fayed: I don't care about that, it is not important to me. BBC: You used to care about it. Al-Fayed: The way my son has been murdered, because I can't get to the truth, I can't get killers because you cover yourselves with Official Secret Acts... BBC: Do you not feel that you owe it to Diana's family, to her sons, who we are
[CTRL] (Fwd) Idea of the Week: A New Bargain for Public Schools
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:48:52 -0400 Send reply to: LIST RESPECT From: Web Master [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Idea of the Week: A New Bargain for Public Schools To: Multiple recipients of list NEWDEMNEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] The DLC Update Monday, September 27, 1999 * Discuss the Idea of the Week at the DLC Idea Exchange at http://www.dlc.org/idea/discussion.htm * ***Idea of the Week: A New Bargain for Public Schools*** Most federal aid to education has been traditionally based on an old bargain that no longer works: Washington offers money to states and school districts based on need, and then micro-manage how it is used, with little or no attention to what it produces in the way of educational results. While it has done much good to offset the financial inequities inherent in schools due to widely varying local revenue bases, it has also rewarded failure as often as success. That is why the disparities in education levels between poor and middle- or upper-class Americans--that justified federal aid to education to begin with--are getting worse, not better, at precisely the time when education and skills loom larger than ever as a factor determining individual opportunity. This year's reauthorization of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA)--the primary vehicle for federal aid--offers Congress the chance to reinvent federal education policy for the Information Age. In addition, there is finally a legislative package on the horizon that would accomplish the kind of dramatic shift in strategies the country needs: DLC Chairman Sen. Joe Lieberman's (D- CT) Public Education, Reinvestment, Reinvention, and Reinvigoration Act Lieberman's "Three R's" bill (along with a House counterpart that Rep. Harold Ford (D-TN) intends to offer) is based in large part on the Progressive Policy Institute's report, Toward Performance-Based Federal Education Funding, by Andrew Rotherham, President Clinton's Special Assistant for Education Policy. In some respects, it is a more sweeping variation on the Clinton Administration's proposal to link federal education aid to accountability for educational results. It also draws on bipartisan proposals from the Governors to provide greater flexibility in administering federal education funds by consolidating a variety of programs. More fundamentally, it redefines the federal role in education and offers states and poor school districts a new bargain: strong federal support and broad administrative flexibility in exchange for a commitment to reform, innovation, and the achievement of measurable results in closing the gap between good and bad public schools. Lieberman's "Three R's" plan would: --Reconfigure the Title I compensatory education program for disadvantaged students by increasing the targeting of funds to the poorest schools, requiring steady progress toward the goal of ensuring math and reading proficiency for all children, demanding radical action to improve or close poor-performing schools, and raising overall funding by more than 50 percent. --Consolidate teacher training programs into one grant focused on raising the quality of teaching as well as the quantity of qualified teachers, with strict performance standards. --Streamline bilingual education programs while making it clear the goal of bilingual instruction is to achieve student proficiency in reading, writing, and speaking English. --Strengthen federal efforts to provide parental choice among public schools, including universal--information on school, student and teacher performance, school safety, access to technology, and physical conditions; while encouraging more performance-based "charter" schools. Consolidate all other K-12 programs into a single fund that would encourage innovation and --experimentation on a broad array of educational challenges. --Introduce a regime of accountability throughout all federal education programs that would reward success and punish failure according to simple performance measures. In effect, Lieberman's bill combines the best ideas for improving public school performance from every direction. But it does not endorse the dubious logic of Republican schemes that demand accountability without standards for public schools, and no accountability at all for private schools receiving public funds. If lawmakers in both parties believe half of what they say about the critical importance of improved education in an Information Age global economy, they should get behind Lieberman's bill as an urgent priority. ***Bad Company in Seattle*** The AFL-CIO recently announced it intends to send 15,000 members to Seattle at the end of November to participate
[CTRL] The Masonic / Templar Connection
-Caveat Lector- The Masonic / Templar Connection http://www.crossfields.com/~watcher/templars.html There are lots of good links on this page and its nice to see a bit of Brother Blue again. Nicky .:. Baphomet .:. The Goat of Mendes The practice of magic -- either white or black -- depends upon the ability of the adept to control the universal life force -- that which Eliphas Levi calls the great magical agent or the astral light [A:.A:. / "orgone" / whatever -B:.B:.]. By the manipulation of this fluidic essence the phenomena of transcendentalism are produced. The famous Hermaphroditic Goat of Mendes was a composite creature formulated to symbolize this astral light. It is identical with Baphomet, the mystic pantheos of those disciples of ceremonial magic, the Templars, who probably obtained it from the Arabians. Medieval Bricklayers and the Amerikan Magickal Mystery Tour [Caution: You will need to filter out the disinfo: the page will help! Hour of the Time ] Following are some observations -- both pro and con -- regarding the highly secretive and oft misunderstood fraternity known as the Knights Templars. The first batch of quotes comes from Manley P. Hall's 1988 master- piece, "The Secret Teachings of All Ages: An Encyclopaedic Outline of Masonic, Hermetic, Qabbalistic Rosicrucian Symbolical Philosophy" (ISBN 0-89314-830-X) and the remainder reflect the painstaking research of one William Bramley in his epic Paradigm-Buster "The Gods of Eden" (Avon Books, ISBN 0-380-71807-3). DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
