[CTRL] mind control S.F. bay area Blacks, activists prisoners

1999-10-05 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


THE CONSTANTINE REPORT No. 1
"Remote Viewing" at Stanford Research Institute or Illicit CIA Mind Control
Experimentation?
Alex Constantine is the author of Psychic Dictatorship in the U.S.A. (Feral
House, 1995), an exploration of electromagnetic mind control, cults formed
by the CIA, collaboration with old guard Nazis, media disinformation and
other outrageous acts of federal malfeasance. The Constantine Report
originated on KAZU-FM as a regular feature on the Lighthouse Report. His
contributions to the Lighthouse Report were first broadcast in 1989. He has
written for Z Magazine, Hustler, Prevailing Winds, Coast Weekly and MindNet,
among other publications. The following selection is from the upcoming
Virtual Government: CIA Mind Control Operations in America, scheduled for
release in the spring of 1997.


Concrete evidence that electronic mind control was the true object of study
at SRI was exposed by the Washington Post in 1977. When the Navy awarded a
contract to the Institute, "the scientific assistant to the Secretary of the
Navy, Dr. Sam Koslov, received a routine briefing on various research
projects, including SRI's. As the briefer flashed his chart onto the screen
and began to speak, Koslov stormily interrupted,"What the hell is that
about?" Among the glowing words on the projected chart, the section
describing SRI's work was labeled "ELF and Mind Control."

ELF stands for extremely long frequency electromagnetic waves, from the very
slow brain frequencies up to about 100 cycles per second. But the Mind
Control label really upset Koslov. He ordered the SRI investigations for the
Navy stopped, and canceled another $35,000 in Navy funds slated for more
remote viewing work. Contrary to Koslov's attempt to kill the research, the
Navy quietly continued to fork out $100,000 for a two-year project directed
by a bionics specialist.

The "remote viewing" team at SRI was, in fact, engaged in projecting words
and images directly to the cranium. It is not a humanitarian pastime: the
project was military and test subjects are often subjected to a lifetime of
EM torture plied with the same thorough disregard for human rights as the
radiation tests conducted at the height of the Cold War. To be sure, the
treatment subjects have received at the hands of their own government would
be considered atrocities if practiced in wartime.

Mind control was also used in domestic covert operations designed to further
the CIA's heady ambitions, and during the Vietnam War period SRI was a hive
of covert political subterfuge. The Symbionese Liberation Army, like the
People's Temple, was a creation of the CIA. The SLA had at its core a clique
of black ex-convicts from Vacaville Prison. Donald DeFreeze, otherwise known
as "Cinque," led the SLA. He was formerly an informant for the LAPD's
Criminal Conspiracy Section and the director of Vacaville's Black Cultural
Association (BCA), a covert mind control unit with funding from the CIA
channeled through SRI. The Menlo Park behavior modification specialists
experimented with psychoactive drugs administered to members of the BCA.
Black prisoners were programmed to murder selected black leaders once on the
outside. The CIA/SRI zombie killer hit list included Oakland school
superintendent Dr. Marcus Foster, and Panthers Huey Newton and Bobby Seale,
among others. DeFreeze stated that at Vacaville in 1971-72 he was the
subject of a CIA mind control experiment. He described his incarceration on
the prison's third floor, where he was corralled by CIA agents who drugged
him and said he would become the leader of a radical movement and kidnap a
wealthy person. After his escape from Vacaville (an exit door was left
unlocked for him), that's exactly what he did.

EM mind control machines were championed at SRI by Dr. Karl Pribram,
director of the Neurophychology Research Laboratory: "I certainly could
educate a child by putting an electrode in the lateral hypothalmus and then
selecting the situations at which I stimulate it. In this was I can grossly
change his behavior." Psychology Today touted Pribram as "The Magellan of
Brain Science." He obtained his B.S. and M.D. degrees at the University of
Chicago, and at SRI studied how the brain processes and stores sensory
imagery. He is credited with discovering that mental imaging bears a close
resemblance to hologram projection (the basis for transmitting images to the
brains of test subjects under the misnomer "remote viewing"?).

The SRI/SAIC psi experiments were supervised at Langley by John McMahon,
second in command under William Casey, succeeding Bobby Ray Inman, the SAIC
director. McMahon has, according to Philip Agee, the CIA whistle-blowing
exile, an affinity for "technological exotics for CIA covert actions." He
was recruited by the Agency after his graduation from Holy Cross College. He
is a former director of the Technical Services 

[CTRL] Biowarfare connections between U.S. Fort (Camp) Detrick world-war era Japan.

1999-10-05 Thread Dave

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Biowarfare connections between U.S. Fort (Camp) Detrick  world-war era
Japan.

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~dyue/wiihist/germwar/731rev.htm

A Preliminary Review of Studies of Japanese Biological Warfare Unit 731 in
the United States
Tien-wei Wu

Table of contents


*Introduction
*I. The origin of Unit 731
*II.   The US knowledge of the Germ War
*III. The deal between US and Unit 731 members * don't miss this part !
*IV.   Japanese experiments on American POWs


Intoduction.

In the midst of continuous denial by important members of the Japanese
government individually or collectively that Japan was an aggressor in World
War II, the planned exhibition of the Smithsonian Institute to commemorate
the end of WWII in Asia has turned into an unusually fervid debate, with
which an interest in discussing and writing on Japan's wartime atrocities
has been aroused. Most prominent among numerous writings on the subject is
"Japan Confronting Gruesome War Atrocity" penned by Nicholas D. Kristof and
published inNew York Times on March 17, 1995. The article has given us a
detailed account of the most shocking, heinous, cruel crime the civilized
world has ever known: Japanese Unit 731 used human beings for vivisection in
order to develop biological weapons. Equally unbelievable is that the United
States has covered up the crime in exchange for the data on human
experiments, an act utterly ignoring international laws and human justice.
What a great irony to the lofty ideal of democracy and the so-called
"American civilization" of the 20th century!

The shock created by Kristof's article has been felt primarily in the U.S.
and a few Western countries. However, as early as 1949, the Soviet Union
held a week long trial at Khabarovsk of the Japanese war criminals for
biological warfare. Among those tried, 12 people were associated with 731,
including General Yamada Otozo, Commander-in-Chief of the Kuantung Army, Lt.
Gen. Ryuiji Kajitsuka, Chief of the Medical Administration, and Lt. Gen.
Takaatsu Takahashi, Chief of the Veterinary Division, both in the Kuantung
Army; Maj. Gen. Kiyoshi Kawashima, longtime head of Unit 731's production
department; Maj. Gen. Shunji Sato, head of Unit 731's Canton branch; and Lt.
Col. Toshihide Nishi, Major Tomio Karasawa, Maj. Maso Onoue, Lt. Zensaku
Hirazakura, Senior Sergeant Kazuo Mitomo, Corporal Norimitsu Kikuchi, and
Private Yuji Kurushima, all of Unit 731. The entire proceedings of the trial
were published under the title "The Trial of Former Servicemen of the
Japanese Army Charged with Manufacturing and Employing Bacteriological
Weapons" by Foreign Language Publishing House, Moscow, 1950.

Since 1940, in Chinese theater, Ishii Shiro had led his Unit 731 to engage
in biological warfare by attacking Ningpo, Chinhua, Chuchou of Chechiang
province (during the Japanese-Soviet war at Nomonhan, Mongolia in the summer
of 1939, Unit 731 was dispatched to the front to make bacterial assault). To
retaliate the U.S. air raid of Tokyo led by Col. Doolittle in April 1942,
from which over 60 U.S. airmen were rescued in Chechiang area, Japan
launched a largescale mopping-up campaign, in which several hundred men from
Unit 731 and its subsidiary Unit 1644 of Nanking took part. Early in
November 1941, Unit 731 dispatched an airplane to spread bubonic plague at
Changte, Hunan, which was verified by Dr. E. J. Bannon of American
Presbyterian Church hospital at Changte. The event was well known to
American and British intelligence agencies at Chungking and besides the
Chinese government had fully informed the American and British government of
it through its ambassadors Wellington Koo at London and Hu Shih at
Washington. Chinese authorities had long learned that Japan used biological
warfare against China and had repeatedly appealed to international
communities for help. Before making their escape at the time of Japanese
surrender, Japanese in Unit 731 set free scores of thousands of infected
rats that caused widespread plague in 22 counties of Heilungchiang and Kirin
provinces that took more than 20,000 Chinese lives. As the plague was well
publicized in newspapers and periodicals, many Chinese became aware of
Japan's employing biological warfare in China during the war. While the
Korean was raging, North Korea and China accused the United States of using
biological warfare that rekindled the public interest in probing Unit 73 1.
Among thousands of Japanese prisoners of war (POW) repatriated from Siberia,
some belonged to Unit 73 1. Together with those Japanese POWs then detained
in China, they were tried in a special court at Shenyang (Mukden) in June
1956. Strikingly one of them was Ken Yuasa, the doctor mentioned in
Kristof's article in the New York Times. Some others under trial included
important members of Unit 73 1: Major Hideo Sakakihara who was in charge of
Hailar branch of Unit 731 (there were 

[CTRL] CIA links: drugs, mindcontrol

1999-10-05 Thread Dave
Title: 



Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart




  
  
Links to Further DocumentsConcerning the 
CIA


  
  

  
More 
on the CIA and Drugs 
The 
CIA, MKULTRA and Timothy Leary 
Project 
Monarch 
CIABASE 

Yet 
More 


  

  
  More on the CIA and Drugs
  
Rodney Stich's FORTY-FIVE YEARS OF 
CIA DRUG TRAFFICKING 
This site reveals: 


  The specifics of the extensive corruption in the Central Intelligence 
  Agency, and the harm inflicted upon millions of innocent people in the 
  United States and overseas. 
  The broad extent of the coverups, disinformation, and obstruction of 
  justice by virtually every government check and balance, and most of the 
  broadcast and print media. 
  The true heroes in America (no, not the ball players or OJ!), and how 
  they suffered for exercising courage and responsibilities so tragically 
  absent in the general population. 
  America's "political" prisoners, including agents and operatives of 
  the FBI, DEA, INS, and CIA, and concerned citizens, who are victims of 
  retaliation and who suffer great financial and personal harm, for daring 
  to expose CIA and other government corruption. 
  The grave harm inflicted upon innocent people, a part of the 
  escalating corruption inflicted upon innocent Americans. 
  How to think and speak like an expert on the complex web of intrigue 
  known only to a selected few insiders. 
  The knowledge needed to protect yourself and to minimize the personal, 
  physical and financial harm that are being inflicted upon Americans 
  throughout the United States. 
  The truth about the drugging of America and the phony drug war, from 
  government agents who either discovered the drug trafficking, or were part 
  of it . 
  The felony coverups by one of the most corrupt of all federal 
  agencies, the U.S. Department of Justice and its various divisions. 
  Examples of how federal judges, and even the Justices of the U.S. 
  Supreme Court, are criminally involved in coverups, obstruction of 
  justice, retaliating against government agents and citizens who seek to 
  report the corruption that they discovered. 
  The significance of these conditions upon the United States, its 
  government institutions, the American people, and you. 

John Ashton: US 
Government Still on Ropes Over Lockerbie(Also here.) 

In return for the Syrians using their influence to free 
  the remaining American hostages, the CIA helped them to safely transport 
  their heroin on transatlantic flights.
Confessions of an 
Amerikan LSD Eater 

This covert government involvement in drug trafficking was 
  designed to serve a dual political purpose. On the international level, it 
  provides financial support for covert military operations in the Third 
  World, in furtherance of the strategy of "low intensity warfare" in 
  support of U.S.-based multinational corporations. 
  Domestically, the proliferation of debilitating drugs is used to 
  destabilize the oppressed populations of the inner cities, to counteract 
  potentially revolutionary tendencies, and to provide a pretext for the 
  militarization of domestic law enforcement and the erosion of 
  traditionally protected civil liberties, bringing us a step closer to the 
  monolithic police state that the corporate oligarchs have planned for 
  America and the "new world order."

Dangerous 
Allies: U.S. Helps Mexico's Army Take Big Anti-Drug Role 

Why "CIA" really 
stands for "Cocaine Importers Association"Here are many references 
(and some web links) to books and articles documenting CIA involvement in 
cocaine and heroin smuggling. "One has to ask why, given the vast amount of 
documentation, there has yet to be even a SINGLE congressional hearing on 
this subject." 

C.I.A., 
Crack, the Media - an editorial from The Nation magazine. 

In defending the story many months ago, however, Ceppos 
  insisted that "the key finding of the series that people associated with 
  the C.I.A. also sold many tons of cocaine has not been challenged." It 
  still hasn't.

CRACK the CIA 

The CIA was ostensibly formed to gather intelligence about 
  enemies who posed a threat to the American people. In reality, it has 
  been an enemy of the American people.

Michael C. Ruppert: Fifty Years of the 
CIA Dealing Drugs to Americans 

 Cocaine Import 
AgencyThis web site is a valuable source of information concerning 
the "war on drugs" as a strategy of "disciplinary social control", with 
particular attention to the involvement of the 

[CTRL] mind control links

1999-10-05 Thread Dave

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http://www.morethanconquerors.simplenet.com/MCF/ckln-hm.htm



Dave Hartley
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Article 16432 of alt.conspiracy:
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I made the following transcript from a tape recording

of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station

WBAI-FM (99.5)

505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.

New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

(continuation)
GARY NULL:
There's a lot in our educational system that we're not teaching
that should be a part of the curricula. I've invited someone who is
now on the line. My guest is Beverly Eckman. She's an author. She's
and educator. She is a person concerned in the areas of politics,
education and public affairs. She has served as the chief speech
writer for such figures as Richard Carlson, the Director of the
Voice of America, and Chief Justice Warren Burger, and for groups.

She has also written for various publications. Welcome to the
program, Bev. Let's go to some allegations. And I'd like you to
address them in detail, with documentation for each allegation.

BEVERLY ECKMAN:
Alright. The allegations on educating for the New World Order,
first and foremost, are that the Federal Government is developing
and establishing curriculum in violation of Federal law. The state
governments have the right to establish curriculum, but not the
Federal Government.

Secondly, that testing and curriculum are connected to each other,
and that both are coordinated and funded using Federal dollars
(and that is what took four years to uncover) in such a way that
the Federal Government would pick up on it.

Thirdly, that the U.S. Department of Education is in collusion with
the Carnegie organization -- primarily with the Carnegie Foundation
for the Advancement of Teaching (There are others and they all
trade money back and forth. But mainly, it's the Carnegie Foundation
for the Advancement of Teaching); and that they are also in
collusion with state education agencies, which they have revamped
and restructured, so that they could help turn around the educational
system in a completely different fashion, dedicating it to
totally different ends, which we can talk about in just a moment.








 That brings me right into the fourth allegation: Privacy Act
violations are rampant, particularly with regard to the
computerization of testing and survey devices in conjunction with
the use of social security numbers and other identifiers which
permit data to be linked with the Federal and state computer systems.
And, of course, that does lead to this dossier-building capability
that we can also talk about in just a moment.

The fifth allegation is that state and Federal education agencies
are fraudulently passing off attitudinal, psychological and
behavioral surveys, studies, tests and curricula as academics and
substantive learning. In fact, Bob Gray of the Privacy Office up
there in Washington said that our best case probably was fraud.
He had the fraud hotline, as a matter of fact. And he said that it
was one of the best cases of fraud he'd ever heard.

The sixth allegation -- and this is from the professional literature
associated with the testing and survey devices that we found via
computer. Those learning programs -- when you get the administrative
literature and the interpretive literature -- state plainly what
the thrust of the materials are. But this information is kept from
parents and the casual investigator. In other words, when they
came out of the computer, if they were psychological therapy, it
said so. But nothing like that is stamped on the material once the
teacher has it in hand or when the parents get hold of it.

The seventh allegation is that in the process of refining these
attitudinal, psychological and behavioral strategies that are
being used in the classroom, the Government, through its
tax-supported labs and centers (which is where a lot of this stuff
comes out of) is supporting a policy of irresponsible scientific
experimentation. That is, the Government is subsidizing the
practice of medicine without a license, in effect. The experiments
are poorly controlled, the repercussions are not fully understood,
and the strategies themselves are often not fully accepted by
professionals in the field.

And finally, the last thing: the book alleges that a political
weapon is being created, wittingly or unwittingly, as the result
of computerization, which 

[CTRL] Excerpt from McAlvany Intelligence Advisor on GWS, mycoplasma, Bush BakerIII links

1999-10-05 Thread Dave

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Excerpt from McAlvany Intelligence Advisor on GWS, mycoplasma,
Tanox/Huntsville Prison, Bush  BakerIII links, also M.D. Anderson; Baylor.


Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


excerpt from:
http://www.all-natural.com/part-4a.html

With the help of their intelligence sources, the Nicolsons concluded that
the biological weapons were being studied by Tanox Biosystems of Stella Link
(in Houston), a company with close ties to Baylor, that it was tested on
inmates at the Walls Unit in Huntsville; and that it was sold to Saddam
Hussein. Books were burned and records were destroyed in Huntsville. A
massive cover-up was underway, in part because George Bush and Jim Baker
were Tanox investors. Thereafter, Garth Nicolson devoted a lab in his
department to mycoplasma research. As they began studying the
microorganisms, the espionage community began studying us, the Nicolsons
say. Faxes and letters were intercepted, and the phone company said they'd
never seen so many taps on a phone, Nancy Nicolson recalls. Nancy Nicolson
claims to have endured a number of attempts on her life... Garth Nicolson
believes Baker and Bush are friends with M.D. Anderson president Charles
LeMaistre and pressured him to interfere with their work.

[ED. NOTE: LeMaistre forced Garth Nicolson out in July' 96 and terminated
all M.D. Anderson blood testing and research on Mycoplasma fermentans
(incognitus). Obviously, some very powerful people want this thing to go
away. Hence, the cover-up described above and the pressure and ostracizing
of the Nicolsons].

Meanwhile, Nancy and Garth Nicolson believe that Mycoplasma fermentans
(incognitus) is a deadly contagion and has begun to spread rapidly into the
general population.

"Front door" to entire series:
http://www.all-natural.com/gwi-1.html
(this page consists of Table of contents below; hyperlinked to segments of
25-part series.)

Gulf War Illness Special Reports
by Donald S. McAlvaney, Editor,
McAlvaney Intelligence Advisor (MIA),
August 1996



Intro Introduction

Part I. What is Gulf War Illness (GWI)?

Part II
Part IIa Where did Gulf War Illness come from?
Part IIb Saddam's Revenge:
Chemical/Biological Warfare Attacks by Iraq Against U.S. Troops
Part IIc Forced Innoculations of U.S. Troops
Part IId Overseas Infections

Part III. U.S. Government Involvement in Biological Warfare.
Part IIIa Appropriations for Biological Warfare Research
Part IIIb Would the U.S. Government Experiment on Its Soldiers or Civilians?
Part IIIcd
Part c. Huntsville, Texas Prison Experiments
Part d - Did America Test Its Own Biologigical Warfare Agents Against Iraq?

Part IV. The U.S. Government Cover-Up of the Gulf War Plague
Part IVa The Anatomy of The Germ Warfare Cover-up
Part IVb Why The Coverup? What Is The Department of Defense Trying to Hide?
Part IVc The Most Evil Part of The Cover-up - The Government (Veteran's
Administration) Won't Treat The Vets

Part V. The Sad Death of a Gulf War Veteran.

Part VI. Methods of Treatment of GWI
Part 6 a  b
Part 6a - Testing for Mycoplasma Fermentans (Incognitus)
Part 6b - Use of Doxycycline to Treat Gulf War Illness
Part 6 c An Herbal Approach to Treating Gulf Illness
Part 6 defg Methods of Treatments of GWI
Part 6d - Other Actions to Take

Part 6e - Biomagnetic Therapy

Part 6f - Protection from GWI - Strengthening the Immune System

Part 6g - A Few More Things to Do And Avoid

Part VII. Conclusion and Recommendations





This entire report is available for $5 from McAlvany Intelligence Advisor,
P. O. Box 84904, Phoenix, AZ 85071 Phone 1-800-528-0559. The Copyright has
been lifted from this report so that it can be distributed widely -
especially to Gulf War Veterans, physicians and health care providers.

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[CTRL] The Matrix: Cyber-Voodoo

1999-10-05 Thread Das GOAT

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 from Steve Mizrach (aka Seeker1)
http://www.clas.ufl.edu/anthro/cyberanthro/frontdoor.html


 THE GHOST IN THE MACHINE
 Haitian Voudoun and the Matrix


William Gibson's Count Zero

 It would seem that there are no two things more distinct
than the primal, mystic, organic world of Haitian Voudoun, and
the detached, cool, mechanical world of the high-tech future.
Yet William Gibson parlayed off the success of his first SF
'cyberpunk' blockbuster "Neuromancer" to write a more complex,
engaging novel in which these two worlds are rapidly colliding.
 In his novel "Count Zero," we encounter teenage hacker
extraordinaire Bobby Newmark, who goes by the handle "Count
Zero." Bobby on one of his treks into cyberspace runs into
something unlike any other AI (artificial intelligence) he's ever
encountered - a strange woman, surrounded by wind and stars, who
saves him from 'flatlining.' He does not know what it was he
encountered on the net, or why it saved him from certain death.
 Later we meet Angie Mitchell, the mysterious girl whose head
has been 'rewired' with a neural network which enables her to
'channel' entities from cyberspace without a 'deck' - in essence,
to be 'possessed'.  Bobby eventually meets Beauvoir, a member of
a Voudoun/cyber sect, who tells him that in cyberspace the entity
he actually met was Erzulie, and that he is now a favorite of
Legba, the lord of communication...  Beauvoir explains that
Voudoun is the perfect religion for this era, because it is
pragmatic - "It isn't about salvation or transcendence. What it's
about is getting things DONE."  Eventually, we come to realize
that after the fracturing of the AI Wintermute, who tried to
unite the Matrix, the unified being split into several entities
which took on the character of the various Haitian _loa_, for
reasons that are never made clear.
 Gibson apparently felt there was an instinctive linkage
between Haitian Voudoun and the urban hyperreality of his
fictional Sprawl. As a fan of jazz and other urban music, which
he knew to be heavily influenced by African rhythms, Gibson
instinctively found the religion for his new urban dystopia.
The essential struggle in the book is between Beauvoir's group
and the Yakuza, the Japanese gangster conglomerate. It is a
battle between two traditions - one of power, corruption, and
influence; the other of passion, magic, and sensuality. There are
many strange links between this African-descended religion and
the emerging high-tech future; Gibson was tapping into a
zeitgeist which I am here trying to illuminate. Though at first
seemingly unrelated, Voudoun provides us with one of the hidden
keys to the Matrix - the Ghost in the Machine.
 Haiti is not so 'outside' the emerging "Third Wave" of
postindustrial civilization as many might think. There are groups
of Haitian "hackers" in the U.S., very similar to Beauvoir and
his friends as described by Gibson. Many of the key
microelectronic components making up the Matrix are assembled by
Haitian urban workers, employed by the various multinationals
which take advantage of its artificially lowered wages and the
willingness of the military regime to overcome the country's
traditional barriers to foreign investment and financial control.
Not so much a 'primitive' society, Haiti IS a land of stark
contrasts, combining "First Wave" rural peasants with "Third
Wave" scientists, working to integrate their nation into various
schemes of global communication and trade.

Legba, Lord of the Crossroads: Intersection and Danger

 In an article in the 1988 Florida Journal of Anthropology
entitled "The Cognition of Intersections: An Analysis of Kalinga,
American, and Haitian Folk Models", Dr. Robert Lawless looks at
an interesting question in cognitive anthropology - how groups
from three societies (Kalinga tribesman from the North Luzon
Highlands of the Phillipines, middle-class American first-year
college students, and Haitian folk participants in the Voudoun
religion) map their perceived spatial reality. In particular,
Lawless was interested in the way they symbolically cognized and
mapped the intersection of paths. This arose from a rather
practical realization that his Kalinga informants were incapable
of giving him directions to nearby towns in a simple linear,
Western form. While I will not go into detail about his findings
from surveys of Americans or Kalingas, Lawless' insights into the
Haitian understanding of the crossroads are particularly useful
for my purposes.
 Lawless notes that the patron _loa_ of the crossroads
("carrefour" in the French, "kafou" in Creole) is Legba, whose
_veve_ or mystic diagram is an elaboration of the four-armed
cross, at once showing his links to the crossroads, Christianity,
and the four cardinal points as defined by the solar maxima
(equinoxes and solstices.) Legba is the interpreter for the gods
(mediating speech between the gods and men) and the lord of
communication and 

[CTRL] Samatobryn

1999-10-05 Thread earthman

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Guys...help me out with this one...Where is "Samatobryn" ...and How much is
100 leagues?

Century 6 - Quatrain 5

A so great famine caused by pestiferous rain [or wave, but more likely rain]

By long rain through the length of the arctic poles

"Samatobryn" one hundred leagues from the hemisphere,

Will live without laws, exempt from politic.




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1999-10-05 Thread AOL User

For some reason the attachment was corrupted.  Try this one.
--David
P.S. sorry folks.  The file is @ 70k.  If it isn't, it aint the clean file.

 Wilcher Report.txt

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Re: [CTRL] Samatobryn

1999-10-05 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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A league is about three miles.

Whose translation of C6 Q5 are you using? I'm looking at John Hogue's at the
moment and this is how he translates it:

So great a famine through a pestilent wave.

[It] will extend its rain over the length of the Artic Pole.

Samarobryn, one hundred leagues from the hemisphere.

[They] shall live without law, exempt from politics.

Hogue refers to "Samarobryn" as an "unsolved enigma" and notes a number of
variations including "Samarobriva = Amiens", "Sam R. O'Brien = some future
astronaut" or some sort of wandering seed pod from the Latin words samara =
seed-pod  obire = to wander.

Do you seriously think anyone will know what this means. Methinks it's yet
another example of perhaps a particularly enduring confidence trick.

B.D.

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1999-10-05 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Subject: Khazars-3
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 23:49:03 +0200
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The Physical Appearance of the Khazars.
Three different types of Khazar are described by Arab writers who
apparently through trade and diplomacy had had direct contact with them.
The Arab Geographer Istakhri (Koestler p.20) said: "The Khazars do not
resemble the Turks. They are black-haired and of two kinds, one called
the
Kara [i.e. "Black"] - Khazars who are swarthy verging on deep black as
if
they were a kind of Hindu, and a white kind [Ak-Khazars], who are
strikingly handsome".
Note the above description says that both  kinds of Khazars had black
hair
though regarding countenance, etc. one was white and the other very
dark.
There were other Khazars who were blond or red-heared:

Al Maghribi said: "As to the Khazars, they are to the north of the
inhabited earth towards the 7th clime, having over their heads the
constellation of the plough. Their land is cold and wet, their eyes
blue,
their hair flowing and predominantly reddish, their bodies large and
their
natures cold. Their general aspect is wild".  Al-Maghribi is here
apparently speaking of another section of the Khazars who lived more to
the
north. These had "predominantly reddish" hair and blue eyes. It was
remarked above that the Khazar White Ugrians were described by the
Chinese
as red-haired, pale-skinned, and green-eyed. The Alans who were closely
associated with the Khazars were described by the Roman historian
Ammianus
Marcelinus as being blonde-haired like all the Scythians according to
him.
Ammianus includes the Agathysoi (Khazars) amongst the Alans. From the
above
it follows that different Khazar and Khazar-linked groups were of
different
types.

The Khazars and Israel.

One version of the letter of King Joseph quoted above said that the
Khazars had a tradition that they were descended from the Tribe of
Simeon.
Eldad HaDani (ca.850 c.e.) wrote that they came from Simeon and
Menasseh.
The Cochin Scroll also says that the Khazars were descended from Simeon
and
Menasseh. The Khazars are identical with The Red Jews. The Lost Ten
Tribes
were called "Red Jews" and were described as all having Red Hair. Red
Hair
in the Middle Ages especially in Germany was considered a negative
characteristic and associated with the Jews and with Judas. The
Anti-Christ
and Judas were depicted as both having red hair and as both coming from
the
Tribe of Dan.  In the whole literature of the Jews in the Medieval
Period
and in that of the Gentiles the Red Jews were identified as descended
from
the Lost Tribes of Israel. There are also Jewish legal rabbinical
Responsa
in which the Khazars are identified as originally of Israelite descent.
At
the peak of their history the Khazars controlled the area of the Don and
Danaper Rivers and these rivers were referred to in Khazar times as
"Sambation" and as "River of Sabt (i.e. "Shabat") and in Jewish legend
both
terms are connected with the Lost Ten Tribes. The Khazars had emerged
from
areas to which the Lost Ten Tribes were exiled or had moved to after
their
exile. The Khazars were related to other groups for whom independent
proofs
show an Israelite origin and so what is pertinent to them is pertinent
also
to the Khazars and vice-versa. The Khazars were linked especially with
the
Tribes of Simeon and Menasseh. They were identical with the
Agathyrsi-proper who derived from the Clan of "Jeezer" son of Gilead son
of
Menasseh (Numbers 26;30). The name transliterated as "Jeezer" ((àéòæø in
Hebrew was probably pronounceable as "Ay-(g)a-zar" and the Agathyrsi
were
also known as "Acatzari", Khazari, and Gazari. Those of the Agathyrsi
(Acatzari) who remained in Scythia eventually formed the nucleus of the
Khazar nation and a tradition exists (related by Eldad HaDani in ca.800
c.e. and by the Cochin Scroll) that the Khazars came from the Tribes of
Simeon and Menasseh. The Picts of Scotland also came from the Agathyrsi.
Amongst the pre-christian Picts and Scottish existed a taboo on pig meat
and on other unclean animals prohibited by the Mosaic code (MacKenzie).
Later in christian times the idea existed that "Jews" or a "Type of Jew"
had settled in Scotland. Similarly the Khazars before their conversion
had
had some kind of notion that they were of Israelite descent and had had
some exposure to Mosaic lore65. The "Jeezer" (i.e. "Ay-g-azar" of
Gilead)
origin of the Picts is consistent with the neighbouring Caledonians
(with
whom the Picts united) being also descended from Gilead and the very
name
Caledonian is derived from Gilead. Elements (such as those of Gilead)
connected with Menasseh dominated Scotland and the west of Britain and
from
these areas later came an overwhelming proportion of the early British
settlers of North America in its formative period.


The 2nd edition of "The Tribes" is now available.
This work contains 

[CTRL] [Fwd: Khazars-2]

1999-10-05 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: Khazars-2
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 00:05:28 +0200
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The Khazars Convert To Judaism.
According to the Russian-Jewish scholar, Abraham Harcavy (Vilna, 1867)
the
Khazars converted to Judaism in about 620 c.e. Other authorities put
this
event more than a hundred years later. The conversion at first was more
or
less a secret and was confined to the king and his co-ruling associate
prince and to the inner aristocracy. Later most of the Khazars-proper
appear to have converted along with some of the Alans and some of the
other
subject peoples most of whom however remained pagan, christian, or
moslem.
The conversion was also done in stages (Polak).. At first they accepted
a
kind of monotheism with Hebraic-type ceremonies which perhaps in
principle
is paralleled by the modern Noachide movement (?). Later they accepted
full-fledged Rabbinical Orthodoxy. The first Khazar king to accept
Judaism
was named Bulan whose name means "unicorn" or "elk" (Altheim, GDH vol.1
p.239). The unicorn was an emblem known from the Sakae region east of
the
Caspian Sea. It is also a symbol of Menasseh.
The conversion of the Khazars to Judaism was preceded by a Disputation
amongst members of different religions. The Jewish poet and philosopher
Yehuda HaLevi (1074-1141), in Spain, wrote a Classical work in defence
of
Judaism using this Disputation as a framework. The book is called "The
Kuzari".

The Khazars at one stage may have held some type of suzerainty over what
is
now Hungary, Poland, and Austria.

The Khazars and The Vikings.
Around the 700s Viking "Varangians" began to penetrate the interior of
Russia. The Varangians were mainly Swedish though the term (in Russian
Chronicles) could also be used to encompass anybody from Scandinavia as
well as Englishman (E.B. 1955, "Russia", Vernadsky). Varangians were
confederated with the Khazars and were the Khazar entity referred to as
the
Varach'an (Warathan) Huns. The Varangians were variously also referred
to
as "Varegos", "Barragos", and "Variag" (Polak p.187, Koestler p.147,
Minorsky p.432).  Their name is derived from the Hebrew "Beriah"
[pronounceable as "Veri-a-g"] which name was given to a son  of Asher
(Genesis 46;17), a son of Ephraim (1-Chronicles 7;23), and a son of
Benjamin (1-Chronicles 8;16).
In ca.800 c.e. a group of Varangians appeared at the Byzantium court.
They
called their king "Chakan" which title is considered to have been that
of
the King of Khazaria (Vernadsky, "The Origins of Russia", p.244ff).  The
title "Chakan" or "Cagan" was originally the Hebrew "COHEN" and means
"priest" or "officiate".
More information concerning the Khazars comes from a letter sent some
time
between 954-961 to Ibn Hasdai who was the Jewish physician and foreign
minister to the muslim king of Cordoba in Spain. The letter is from a
King
Joseph of Khazaria. There are two versions of this letter but both
contain
important information from early sources. From the letter(s) we learn
that:
King Joseph was the 13th king of Khazaria; Previously, in the time of
the
11th monarch, King Benjamin, all the surrounding kings had been at war
against the Khazars except  for the King of the Cossacks and the King of
the Alans.

 By "King of the Cossacks"  the Don Cossacks are intended. The Don
Cossacks were a mixed people amongst whom in historical times were
families
who practised Judaic customs and some who converted to Judaism. These
individuals had the notion that they were descended from Dan son of
Israel
after whom the Don River was named .
The Alans were a people who had lived to the north of the Caspian Sea
then
moved to the Caucasus area and north of it. Previously in the time of
Attilla and before then  (i.e. in the 400s c.e.) a section of the Alans
had
gone westward. They settled in areas of Gaul especially in Brittany and
influenced Norman military tactics (Bachrach). There were also Alans
amongst the Allemans in Alsace and in Suebia. In addition, the name
"Alan"
is found in Scotland both as a personal names and as the name of a Tribe
in
the north. In "The Tribes" the Alans are traced to Elon son of Zebulon.

The letter continues to relate that the Alan monarch marched against
the
enemies of the Khazars and routed them. The King of the Alans had
rendered
assistance since "some of them observed the Torah of the Jews". King
Joseph
himself was married to a daughter of the Alan ruler. Bar Hebraeus had
reported that the Khazars came from the east and settled in "the country
of
the Alans now called Barsalia" meaning an area on the northern shores of
the Black Sea.
The Khazars proper were a small group who obtained a loose uncertain
control over many other nations. The Khazar power was probably always in
frequent fluctuation. The Varangians established themselves in and
around
Kiev where they ruled over the natives. They local 

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1999-10-05 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: Khazars-1
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 03:58:10 +0200
From: yair davidi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This articles is in 3 parts.
It is mainly a reprint from the 2nd issue of Tribesman.
Many of you have seen most of it before.
It  is being sent out due to
requests.
I have more information on the subject which I hope to process after
Succoth.

The articles is about the Khazars which is interesting in its own right
but
it also contains information concerning the Israselite origins of
certain
European peoples.

Following this article will follow a number of postings briefly tracing
Israelite groups
from Scythia to western Europe. These postings will also contain
information concerning
the Israelite origins of western peoples.




THE KHAZARS: SOME NOTES FOR FURTHER STUDY.

The Khazars were a small but powerful people who once ruled over
portions
of Russia and eastern Europe. They (or at least many of their leaders)
converted to Judaism, were eventually defeated and disappeared. Their
descendants were either assimilated amongst the Jews or became
Sabbath-keeping and other "divergent" christians many (if not most) of
whom
in some way or other migrated to the west and to North America. Other
descendants of the Khazars may be scattered throughout the former area
of
the U.S.S.R. and in different parts of Europe.

THE NUMBERS OF THE KHAZARS WERE NOT GREAT. AN ESTIMATE SAYS THAT THEY
NUMBERED ABOUT 50,000.
It may have been more but it could not have been excessively so.


A knowledge of the Khazars is useful for several reasons. Evidence
exists
that the Khazars were descended from the Lost Tribes of Israel. There is
also proof that they were related to peoples in northwest Europe. It
follows that evidence connecting northwest Europeans to Israel is
strengthened when cognizance is taken of the Israelite ancestry of their
Khazar brothers.

The Khazars and Anti-Semites.
Another reason for studying the Khazars is that anti-Semites and some
assimilationist Jews claim that the present-day Jews came from the
Khazars
who they assume were non-Israelite. Anti-Semites use their notion of the
Khazars to allege that the Jews are impostors and not true descendants
of
Israel. Some "Identity" groups also make this allegation. So do the
Arabs
and some Negro anti-Semites. In the past some assimilationist Jews used
the
Khazar idea to claim that since their ancestors were not in Judah  at a
certain time therefore they were not culpable for whatever the Jews may
or
may not have done to the christian messiah.

There is also an ideaological component some people wanting to present
Judaism as a religion
(more than an hereditary group) and the Khazars as non-Jewish converts
emphasizing the fact
 that Judaism is open to all.

KOESTLER
There was a writer named Arthur Koestler who thought that by showing the
Jews to be descended from the Khazars
the Gentiles would stop hating the Jews since the Khazars were not in
Palestine when Jesus was
there. Koestler read the sources but chose to emphasize those that were
in
line with his goal
and even these were not so  convincing. Even so the book of Koestler
(The
Thirteenth Tribe)
became a best seller and a favorite with anti-semites. The book itself
does
not really prove anything
but anti-semites love it since it purports to show that the Jews are not
really the chosen people
and this is therefore another reason to hate them.
Koestler did not believe in the Bible so he dismissed legends that the
Khazars were descended from the Lost Tribes as fantasies. He was an
atheist
socialist  or agnostic so any other "rational" simplistic explanation
was
preferable to him and to his idealogical goal.

Kostler should have realized that:
There are some types who will hate Jews no matter what.
Some who will always be sympathetic.
Some inbetween who can swing either way.
Even though some of the most vicious haters of the Jewish people have
been
Christians so too
most of the few friends and allies the Jews have had have been those who
believe in the Bible -whether
Christian or not.

The background for some of the ideas about the Khazars also concerns the
Karaites of Russia.

The Khazars and Karaites.
The Khazars ruled over many peoples some of whom were also influenced
by
Hebraising tendencies. In Judaism at that time there were  two main
streams. There were Rabbinical Jews  who parallel the Orthodox Jews of
today. They believed in the Bible and in its interpretation according to
oral tradition. They were homogeneous (and still are) and consistent in
their basic beliefs and practices. They usually managed to reach a
consensus regarding the practical application of Biblical injunctions.
Another group were the Karaites who claimed to believe only in
Scripture.
The Karaites, however, were actually eclectic and widely divergent
amongst
themselves in their interpretation of Scripture. The Karaite movement in
the modern 

Re: [CTRL] Emails to Australia

1999-10-05 Thread Alan Howard

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Or it could be that the stuff they're getting isn't worth replying to?



from an Australian

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Check out my new, bi-weekly column on www.sfbg.com. It's called "The
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[CTRL] Anti- Corporate Scofflaw Alert

1999-10-05 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 From: Robert Weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   list CORP-FOCUS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999
 Subj: Focus on the Corporation follow-up: Anti-Scofflaw Alert


 A few weeks ago, the Focus on the Corporation column was titled
 "A Law and Order Regulation for Corporations."  The subject was
 a proposal to prevent the U.S. government from entering into
 contracts with companies that are chronic or serious violators
 of labor, environmental, tax, antitrust or employment laws.
 This note is a follow up to that column.

 For more details, see the Essential Action web page,

http://www.essentialaction.org/anti-scofflaw.

 The federal government is now accepting comments on the proposed
 regulation.  Business groups are weighing in heavily against it;
 and so if the proposal is to be enacted, it is vital that
 citizens and public interest groups submit comments in support
 of the regulation.

 It is easy to submit comments -- even a comment that says
 nothing more than, "I support the principle that the federal
 government should not contract with companies that seriously
 transgress the law" is valuable, and comments can be submitted
 by e-mail (as well as regular mail).

 For background on the proposed regulation, and tips on what
 to say in comments, see the Essential Action web page,
  http://www.essentialaction.org/anti-scofflaw .  You can
 e-mail comments directly to the agency from this page.

 If you are so eager to send comments that you don't even
 want to check the page, you can send them by e-mail to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- or by regular mail to:

General Services Administration
FAR Secretariat (MVR)
1800 F Street, NW, Room 4035 ATTN: Laurie Duarte
Washington, D.C. 20045

 Be sure to mention in all written comments that you are
 commenting in reference to FAR case 99-010.


 ** Please pass this note on to friends, colleagues and
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 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999
 Subj: A Law and Order Regulation for Corporations


 A Law and Order Regulation for Corporations
 By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

 If you commit a felony, you lose the right to vote.

 What happens to corporations that break the law? They don't have
 the right to vote. But do they lose any rights or privileges?

 In what may be one of its most important corporate accountability
 initiatives (there haven't been many), the Clinton administration
 is suggesting that chronic violators of labor, environmental, tax,
 antitrust or employment laws should be denied the privilege of
 entering contracts with the federal government.

 Vice President Gore first floated the idea in a 1997 speech to the
 AFL-CIO. A business outcry persuaded the administration to put the
 proposal on hold, but two years later it decided to move forward.

 In July the administration proposed regulations that would clarify
 federal procurement officers' duty to ensure that government
 contractors have a "satisfactory record of integrity and business
 ethics." Under the regulations, corporations that repeatedly or
 seriously transgress worker rights, health, safety, environmental,
 tax or antitrust laws would be deemed ineligible for federal
 government contracts.

 Big business is up in arms about the proposal -- a sign that it may
 be of consequence. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce along with an
 alphabet-soup full of business trade associations have organized
 the National Alliance Against Blacklisting to block the proposal.

 The Alliance is planning a full-blown campaign against the
 regulations. It is revving up arguments about how the regulations
 would bestow on procurement officers the power to act arbitrarily,
 how corporations could be unfairly penalized for failing to comply
 with confusing and technical federal rules, and how the regulations
 improperly side the federal government with labor in
 labor-management disputes.

 The business groups are right about one thing: the Clinton
 administration has hit upon a potentially powerful tool to
 discipline large corporations.

 The federal government spends approximately $200 billion a year on
 procurement, buying goods and services from firms that employ
 approximately 20 percent of the U.S. workforce. Government
 contracts make up a significant revenue stream for many firms,
 including many of the largest companies in the country. In refusing
 to contract with polluting, consumer-cheating, racially or sexually
 discriminating, tax-avoiding, clearcutting, price-fixing and other
 miscreant companies, the government can leverage its buying power
 to promote more responsible corporate behavior.

 Consider the issues of worker rights and worker safety. A 1995
 study by the General Accounting Office (GAO), the congressional
 research agency, found that 80 federal contractors, receiving more
 than $23 billion in federal government business in fiscal 

[CTRL] Clinton makes US Navy Buy Russian Missiles

1999-10-05 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CharlesSmith) - http://www.softwar.net
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999
Subj: WND Clinton Creates A Missile GAP -
  Navy Buys Russian Missiles

   "The Clinton missile gap will close an important U.S.
   defense industrial center and force American engineers into
   the unemployment line.  The Clinton created missile gap
   leaves U.S. Navy warships with untested defenses, untrained
   crews and no domestic source for realistic target missiles."

   "Thanks to Bill Clinton and Al Gore, our Navy will now sail
   into harm's way unprepared and vulnerable."


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/
19991005_xcsof_clinton_cr.shtml

Clinton Creates A Missile GAP -
Navy Buys Russian Missiles

In September 1999, the Navy SSST super-sonic target project
ended after eight years of study without a selection, leaving
America without a means to test the multi-billion dollar AEGIS
missile air defense system.

According to declassified documents from Logicon, the U.S. Navy
contractor responsible for all Navy ship air defenses, the
Clinton move "will have significant impact upon future SSST
testing."

The Clinton move not to issue a contract is also a victory for
the Russian Zvezda-Strela State Scientific Industrial Center,
maker of the MA-31 super-sonic target missile.  An August 31,
1999 letter to Senator Lugar (R-IN), issued by Navy
Undersecretary H.  Lee Buchanan, claimed that the Navy would
only purchase a "limited number" of the Russian made systems.

However, according to Logicon Corp., the Navy now "plans to
procure 37 additional MA-31 targets in FY00, providing politics
does not stop the procurement."

U.S. Navy sources, responding to a Freedom of Information
request (FOIA), confirmed the Russian MA-31 does not meet the
technical requirements for the U.S.N. super-sonic sea skimming
(SSST) target program.  Previous test results obtained from
Boeing show that the Russian MA-31 cannot meet the minimum
requirements set by the Navy SSST contract to fly 1,500 miles
per hour for 50 miles at 50 feet.

"It can only fly 16 miles on the deck," stated Mr. Hotze in
September 1999, the U.S. Navy program manger for the MA-31
program.

Boeing officials again refused to comment on the MA-31 project
with Zvezda.  Repeated phone calls to Boeing have not been
returned.  Navy Under-Secretary Buchanan has also turned down a
second request for an interview.

Under pressure from a Freedom of Information (FOIA) request,
U.S. Navy managers also denied any knowledge of allegations of
corruption regarding kick-backs in the payments for the Russian
missiles.

"We send the money to the Russians," stated Hotze.  "What they
do with it is their business."

According to Janes Defense, each U.S purchase also includes a
28% "fee" given directly to Russian Generals.  Navy documents
show that each MA-31 missile costs $910,000.  The extremely high
price for the MA-31 is almost twice the price of current U.S.
weapons.  In addition, the 28% fee amounts to over a quarter
million dollars per missile paid directly to the Russian
Generals.

In September 1999, the U.S. Navy decided not to purchase the
8,000 pound Allied-Signal Sea Snake super-sonic cruise missile.
The reason, according to the Navy Undersecretary Buchanan, was
the Sea Snake was "too large" to represent the current threat.

Yet, the REAL threat is not the small MA-31, which weighs only
1,100 pounds.  Russian missile makers recently put on sale the
very latest in super-sonic killing technology, the NPO
Mashinostroyenya YAHONT (NATO SS-N-26).  The Yahont ramjet
missile is nearly 30 feet long, over 2 feet in diameter, and
weighs in at 8,598 pounds.

The Russian SS-N-26 was put on sale in August 1999, during an
air-show, as the primary anti-ship weapon for the Sukhoi SU-32
Naval variant of the SU-27 Flanker.  The Yahont is being offered
to China, India, and Vietnam.  Other potential customers include
Iraq, Iran and Libya.

The Yahont missile was described as a integral kerosene fueled
ramjet with a top speed of Mach 2.6 at 45,000 feet and a range
of 180 miles.  The SS-N-26 appears to be almost a duplicate of
the Allied Signal developed Sea Snake which was rejected as "too
large" by U.S. Navy Undersecretary Buchanan.

Guidance is reported to be provided by an inertial system with
the missile descending to a sea-skimming mode 33 feet (10
meters) for its terminal phase of active/passive radar homing.
The Yahont is reported to deliver a 440 pound warhead at an
impact velocity of 2,460 feet per second - faster than a rifle
bullet.

Russia has already fielded several very large missiles similar
to the Yahont and U.S. Sea Snake.  The SS-N-22 (NATO code-name
"Sunburn") anti-ship missile weighs over 7,000 pounds, and is
the primary armament for Russian made destroyers purchased by
China.

The Clinton administration's selection in favor of the Russian
missile will force the closure of a U.S. missile defense plant
located in Indiana.  The Sea Snake is a 1990's 

[CTRL] Fwd: Eyes Forced Shut: Who Killed Stanley Kubrick?

1999-10-05 Thread Kris Millegan





Please visit GettingIt online, and help support what has quickly turned into 
the finest daily internet magazine going.  The following is the first of my 
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Elvis  Kubrick together):

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Eyes Forced Shut:
Who killed Stanley Kubrick? 
BY ROBERT STERLING 

[ 10.04.99 ] 


"If I told you their names, I don't think you'd sleep so well." -- 
Sydney Pollack, "Eyes Wide Shut"

To claim Stanley Kubrick -- arguably the finest film director ever -- 
was a major 20th century figure is an understatement. In a just world, 
his death this March would have received the same media attention as was 
unnecessarily heaped upon pea-brained pretty boy John-John's demise.

It's nice to know that some conspiracy lovers -- ready to challenge 
official reality -- question if Kubrick died from natural causes or was 
assassinated. It's quite refreshing, actually, after hearing countless 
theories over whether the supposedly significant death of JFK Jr. was 
really murder (amusing in its assumption that the "mastermind" behind 
wimpy political rag George was somehow a threat to the power structure.)

Kubrick's swan song, Eyes Wide Shut, reveals kinky sex-magick and 
suspicious slayings that, in retrospect, hardly seem like Tom Cruise 
blockbuster material. Conspiracy rumors argue the film earned Kubrick 
his death certificate: Considering his career of anti-authoritarian 
auteurship, it may be a lifetime achievement award.

If anyone deserved to be whacked by The Man, it was Kubrick. Oliver 
Stone gets the "conspiracy" smear for his flick about the death of 
John-John's daddy, but it's Kubrick who was the true cinematic expositor 
of the secret and suppressed. It's incredible he was allowed to keep a 
camera. 

His career was one of unequaled subversion: the anti-war Paths of Glory, 
the homoerotic slave revolt celebration Spartacus, and the mockery of 
the dark military machine Dr. Strangelove. He warned of things to come 
way ahead of the curve: Lolita was a sexual taboo-smasher, 2001
 anticipated Von Daniken's Ancient Astronaut craze, and A Clockwork 
Orange predicted the violently grim Brave New World Order police state.

Some also allege Kubrick filmed NASA's faked "moon landings" and wrote 
the "script" for the Apollo 13 disaster/hoax. This is unlikely -- not 
because the theory is far-fetched, but because the camera work on the 
moon landing lacked Kubrick's unique style.

Eyes Wide Shut, a sexual thriller about the decadent underbelly of the 
rich and powerful, has a creepiness that chills almost as much as his 
1980 work The Shining. The film's highlight (besides showing Nicole 
Kidman naked) is a masked-ball orgy into which Cruise's character 
sneaks, barely evading punishment when his uninvited entry is 
discovered. What follows is a Antonioni-esque Blow-Up mystery: Are the 
death and the disappearance that follow cabalistic revenge killings? Or 
are they merely two unrelated events that randomly follow his attempted 
deception? Is it coincidence or conspiracy? The film presents no 
definite proof, but implies the events are indeed linked.

In light of Kubrick's death, watching a film in which two likely murders 
are explained away without investigation is disturbing. Kubrick warns 
that anyone who reveals upper-crust secrets can be snuffed without 
punishment. Was he predicting (and warning of) his own farewell?

Kubrick wouldn't be alone: As Uri Dowbenko's film review on Steamshovel 
Press noted, Mozart died soon after he revealed Masonic mysteries in 
"The Magic Flute," Stephen Knight, who wrote about Freemasonry and the 
Jack the Ripper slayings in two books, died mysteriously while working 
on a third, and 19th-century author William Morgan appears to have been 
murdered after he exposed Masonic activities.

The last major film to reveal occult secrets like Eyes Wide Shut was 
Roman Polanski's Rosemary's Baby. Soon after its release, Polanski's 
lover and unborn child were slaughtered by Manson's occult "family," and 
he was later run out of the States. (Polanski screwing a 13-year-old 
girl didn't help.)

The sex rituals in Kubrick's film appear inspired by the Hellfire Club, 
an 18th-century British Masonic offshoot founded by Sir Francis 
Dashwood. Founding Father (and high-ranking Freemason) Benjamin Franklin 
is said to have engaged regularly in these Satanic orgies. More 
recently, self-proclaimed Great Beast Aleister Crowley created similar 
rituals for his Masonic-inspired Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO).

Crowley's top American protégé, JPL rocket scientist Jack Parsons, was 
befriended by future Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard in the late 
1940's. Hubbard supposedly admired Crowley 

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] C.I.A. PROPRIETARY BUSTED IN MIAMI ......from APB Online

1999-10-05 Thread Kris Millegan





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 This looked interesting, so I thought I'd share...at least it's more on
topic than some of my recent posts have been!  Thanks for the tolerance,
guys...(and the help!); )

- GC

 * * * * * * * * * C.I.A. PROPRIETARY BUSTED IN MIAMI * * * * * * * * *

Employees from Evergreen Aviation Ground Logistics Enterprises ( EAGLE ) were
arrested on cocaine trafficking charges by U.S. Drug Enforcement agents at
Miami International Airport on Thursday, September 9, 1999.

Visit EAGLE's web-site by clicking to:
A HREF="http://www.evergreenaviation.com/Eagle/eagle.htm
"http://www.evergreenaviation.com/Eagle/eagle.htm/A

EAGLE is owned by EVERGREEN INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES.

Visit EIA's web-site by clicking to:
A
HREF="http://www.evergreenaviation.com"http://www.evergreenaviation.com/A

EVERGREEN INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES is a proprietary of the Central Intelligence
Agency ( CIA ).

CRAZY !  "no way" . "don't believe it" .

- - - FOR THOSE CYNICS OUT THERE - - -

Read the e-mail messages I sent to President Clinton on October 30, 1997 and
on February 20, 1998.

Those e-mail messages contained allegations of cocaine trafficking by
EVERGREEN AVIATION.

I began informing on EVERGREEN AVIATION's criminal activities to special
agents in Detroit beginning in February of 1990.

Federal law enforcement went on to TAMPER and RETALIATE against me for having
providing special agents with that information in 1990. All of this
racketeering ( OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE ) activity took place during the Bush
administration.

"Who am I ?" . you're asking yourself.

A federal racketeering informant/victim/witness who provided federal law
enforcement with over $ 10 million worth of criminal intelligence pertaining
to police protected prostitution and money laundering enterprises which had
been operating in Detroit, Michigan during the 1980's and early 1990's.

"Ah, he's full of it !" ... "but what if he isn't ?" .

Read the news article that was published on the morning after a ( secret )
federal grand jury indicted two (2) pimps and two (2) prostitutes on
racketeering charges.

My name appears in that news article !

Read the courtroom testimony which was given by a prostitute who ended up
testifing against her former pimp.

Read the confidential Child Abuse/Neglect Petition that was filed against
that very same prostitute two (2) years before her former pimp's racketeering
trial.

My name appears on that confidential court document !

- - - - - - AND GUESS WHAT - - - - - -

IT'S ALL POSTED ON MY DOMAIN'S WEB-SITE !

- - - - - AND GUESS WHAT ELSE - - - - -

I'm currently a plaintiff/appellant with the United States Courts ( 6th
Circuit ) and the whole story is available to the public via the court
records on file with the United States Court.

Feel free to visit my web-site so you can read about the big mess that our
wonderful government created back in 1990.

JUST CLICK TO:
A
HREF="http://www.BobKarolRICO-Informant.com"http://www.BobKarolRICO-Informant
.com/A

The C.I.A. did hours after D.E.A. and U.S. Customs special agents in Miami
BUSTED employees from EVERGREEN AVIATION on cocaine trafficking charges.

Oh - my web-site's "stats" are posted on my web-site too.

CIAo !

R.I.C.O. Informant - Detroit

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[CTRL] Fwd: Colt Manufacturing Inc.

1999-10-05 Thread Kris Millegan





 -Forwarded Message-

 From:   Steve Sarich, INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Colt Manufacturing, Inc., plagued by vendor-creditors and double- digit
 lawsuits, including those from several major US cities, is working  busily
 behind the scenes to stiff vendors and the cities, along with their  own
 union employees.  Colt has long wanted to move out of their  antiquated
 factory in West Hartford, which has been plagued with union  problems since
 the early '90s.  CMI (Colt Manufacturing, Inc.) is owned by New  York banker,
 Donald Zilkha, who still maintains his Iraqi citizenship.   Unfortunately,
 while Mr. Zilkha owns CMI, he *does not* own the name "Colt".   That belongs
 to the State of Connecticut.  The State gained ownership of the  name when
 the companies previous owners went bankrupt in 1994 owing the  State of
 Connecticut pension fund $11,000,000.

 Zilkha's arrangement with the State required him to keep the ailing  company
 in Connecticut for ten years, which included the manufacturing of  any gun
 that had ever been produced in that factoryor pay the State  $11,000,000
 they lost in the previous bankruptcy.  Apparently Zilkha has come  up with an
 exit strategy that will allow him to both move the company's  manufacturing
 to friendlier, non-union, ground and leave the companies creditors  sucking
 wind.  Zilkha is now negotiating with the State to finally buy the  name
 "Colt".

 The plan calls for a breakup of the existing company into four  separate
 legal entities.  The majority of the Colt pistol line will be eliminated  and
 the remaining models, including their popular single action revolvers,
 Pocket 9, Pony, Defender and the new Officer's carry will be moved  to a new
 company, "Colt Classics", in Springfield, Mass.  This will serve as  their
 "custom shop", as well as handling consumer gun sales.  No need  to run out
 panic buying a Colt product one of these products listed above is  what
 you're interested in.

 Colt's military weapons, the M4 carbine and the M16, will be moved  to
 another Colt Holdings owned company, SACO Defense in Maine.   They will
 undoubtably continue the production of the AR15 as well, but it will  most
 likely be sold through the "Custom Shop"...no doubt at a higher  price.

 CMI, the current corporation, with all it's outstanding debts to  vendors,
 along with it's many lawsuits, and union contracts will file for  protection
 under Federal Bankruptcy statutes and the factory in West Hartford  will be
 closed, leaving the many creditors and the 780 employees out in  the cold.

 Colt headquarters and it's executives, under yet another corporate  veil
 (iColt), will move to a location near Washington D.C. to focus on  their
 lobbying efforts which include more sweetheart military contracts  and
 government grants for developing their much touted but non- existent "Smart
 Gun".  Zilkha has been lobbying Democratic lawmakers to *give*  the company
 $100,000,000 in development money for this white elephant.   Unfortunately
 for Mr. Zilkha, another company has recently shown an NIJ panel,  who
 previously gave Colt $500,000 for Smart Gun development, that  they are at
 least two years ahead of Colt in the development of Smart Gun  technology.
 Colt is unlikely to land their government windfall for Smart Gun
 development.  Colt president, Steve Sliwa, speaking about the  Smart Gun, has
 publicly stated that Colt has "bet the future of the company on it".Even
 Zilkha political crony, Sen. Chuck Schumer, won't be able to get  this money
 out of Congress for Colt's non-existent pipe-dream.

 Numerous firings over the last few months, which included several  long-time
 Colt executives and department heads, indicate that this move is  not far
 off.  Colt will continue negotiating with the cities regarding a  settlement
 of the numerous lawsuits, but once Zilkha has secured the rights to  "Colt"
 name from the State of Connecticut, and they complete their plans  to divide
 up the profitable areas of the company, safe from creditors, the  cities will
 find that Mr. Zilkha has left them holding an empty bag.  The other  gun
 companies being sued will surely be the loser in this battle.  The  ultimate
 loser will be the American gun owner.

 There is everything in this story for a good novel.  A rich Iraqi
 oilman/banker, from the richest Jewish family in America (I only include
 this as a point of interest...I'm hardly an anti-semite as Aaron Zellman
 will attest to), attempting to control 85% of the world's arms market!
 Yup...one of those stories that's just too wild to be believable, but that's
 what's happening.  Zilkha has already purchased SACO Defence.  He tried,
 unsuccessfully to buy Remington. He's tried twice, unsuccessfully, to buy
 Fabrique National (which also owns Browning and Winchester). He recently
 tried, unsuccessfully, to purchase Vektor Arms, the largest military arms
 producer on the African continent.  He's 

Re: [CTRL] Origins of the nuclear stalemate by J R Nyquist

1999-10-05 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

Misinformation/disinformation=no information. Perhaps the American *public*
did not envision a future war with Russia; perhaps the mass media were used
to lull them into a (temporary) state of complacency...but be assured that
the Powers That Were, in the State Department and the Pentagon, were very
well aware that their next enemy had to be the Soviet Union. If you read the
excerpts from *Betrayed* that Kris has been posting, about Occupied Germany,
you know that the U.S. Military Government systematically courted ex-Nazis,
even war criminals, to run the new West German state, precisely because they
were anti-Communist. Do some research on the development of the American
strategic bomber force: planning began as early as 1943 for a drastic
expansion of the Air Force, with far more sophisticated weaponry than anyone
had yet seen...and the target was to be, not Nazi Germany or Japan--their
defeat was only a matter of time--but the Soviet Union, our supposed ally.
No, the American *people* may have been led in 1945-46 to see the Russians
as "Yankees in fur hats," but the American *government* was planning not
just for a *cold* war, but for a *hot* war...

 -Original Message-
 From: Nicky Molloy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:53 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  [CTRL] Origins of the  nuclear stalemate by J R Nyquist

  -Caveat Lector-

 Origins of the  nuclear stalemate by J R Nyquist

 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_nyquist/19991004_xcjny_origins_br.sht
 ml
 --
 --
snip
 But the Americans did not imagine a future war with Russia. After Hitler's
 defeat, articles appeared in American magazines which painted a very false
 and rosy picture of Russia.
snip

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[CTRL] OEN 10/5/99

1999-10-05 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
-
Today's Lesson from Money Mischief

by Milton Friedman


Although either silver or gold could legally be used as money, in
practice only silver was so used until 1834 [in the US]. The reason was
simple. There was and is a market for silver and gold outside the
mint--for jewelry, industrial uses, coinage by other countries, and so
on. In 1792 the ratio of the market price of gold to the market price of
silver was almost exactly 15 to 1, the ratio Hamilton recommended. But
shortly afterward the world price ratio went above 15 to 1 and stayed
there . . . As a result, anyone who had gold and wanted to convert it to
money could do better by first exchanging the gold for silver at the
market ratio and then taking the silver to the mint, rather than taking
the gold directly to the mint.

To put it another way, look at the mint as if it were a two-way street
at a 15 to 1 ratio. An obvious get-rich scheme would be to bring 15
ounces of silver to the mint, get 1 ounce of gold in return, sell the
ounce of gold on the market, and with the proceeds buy more than 15
ounces of silver, pocket the profit, and keep going. Clearly, the mint
would soon be overflowing with silver and out of gold. That is why the
mint's commitment under the bimetallic standard was solely to buy silver
and gold (that is, coin freely), although it also could, at its
discretion, sell (redeem) one or the other or both metals. The end
result was that the United States was effectively on a silver standard
from 1792 to 1834. Gold was used for money only at a premium, not at par
value. It was too valuable for that. Gresham's law was in full
operation: cheap money drove out dear money.
=

Waco

Showdown Over Government Privilege Claim

"Oops. Another criminal act. Stamp that 'Top Secret, SCI.'"

WASHINGTON — Attorneys for surviving Branch Davidians and relatives of
those who died during the 1993 Waco siege contend the government is
withholding important evidence by saying it is classified or falls under
Privacy Act protection.
The plaintiffs' lawyers expect to go to trial early next year in their
wrongful-death civil lawsuit against the government.

"There are a lot of documents which have been turned over to us, large
portions of which have been blacked out," said lead counsel Michael
Caddell, calling some of the evidence critical to his case. "And that,
we'll be taking up with the court."

Caddell said he anticipates filing motions asking U.S. District Judge
Walter Smith in Waco, Texas, to examine the government's privilege
claims and he intends to bring up the matter when the parties meet
privately with the judge Oct. 15.

Caddell's concern is shared by co-counsel James Brannon, who is
representing the estates of the three children Davidian leader David
Koresh had with his legal wife, Rachel Jones. The children, and others
that Koresh fathered with different women, were among the approximately
80 people who died during the fiery end to the 51-day standoff on April
19, 1993.

As for the lawyers' assertions, Justice Department spokesman Myron
Marlin said: "This matter is currently under litigation and we will
certainly respond to any complaint we receive in court"

Caddell questioned the government's blacking out of passages from
"virtually every" post-siege interview conducted with all FBI agents at
Waco. "We're entitled to know everything that they heard or saw or did
on April 19," Caddell said.

And Brannon is challenging the government's refusal to provide the names
of certain participants in the final assault.

"They cannot hide behind any laws, any statutes to inflict wrongful
deaths on American citizens and then say 'You can't ever find out who
these people were,'" Brannon said, vowing to take the matter to the
Supreme Court if necessary.

Pointing to past misstatements by federal officials, including the
now-recanted denial that the FBI lobbed potentially incendiary tear gas
canisters, Caddell said: "At this point, you have to be suspicious when
they are withholding things."

Smith or a court-appointed special master should review the items the
government wants to keep private, he said.

Federal officials are finalizing production of an avalanche of
siege-related documents for Smith's court, the special counsel appointed
by Attorney General Janet Reno and a House committee, said Michael
Bradford, U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Texas.

On Monday, Smith granted Bradford 30 more days to give the court every
Waco-related government document. The documents had been due last
Friday.

"We're under deadlines from congressional subpoenas and court production
deadlines and we've been working literally around the clock to try to
get that accomplished," Bradford said. "It's a huge undertaking."

The House Government Reform Committee is expecting more than 1 million
documents, said committee spokesman Mark 

[CTRL] Fwd: WACO BOMB UPDATE

1999-10-05 Thread Kris Millegan





THE WACO BOMB PAGE IS BACK:

http://ian.goddard.net/wacorom2.htm

Careful measurement of the proper location
of the concrete room backed with a new webpage
(http://ian.goddard.net/measure.htm) showing
how it's done to satisfy one and all that it
is correct proves that my initial placement
was not more than roughly four-feet off, the
result being effectively nill... the blast is
decisively on top of the room, not coming from
behind it where a propane tank was located,
about ten-feet away from the room's rear wall.

I have also received many counters that allay
the skeptical concerns I cited, which I will
cover in subsequent messages. Observe that the
base of the stem of the fireball is about ten-
feet wide or more, which means that this is
NOT a thin jet of gas streaming from the valve
of an over-heated propane tank! Those who know
about these tanks tell me that an overheated
tank venting its contents would NOT produce
the explosive fireball seen. Also observe that
the fireball has carried debris up with it,
which is another phenomena not consistent
with gas being ejected from and escape valve.

I now feel embarrassed for having retracted
my declaration of proof of a military-grade
explosive going off. To be frank, there is
simply NO other phenomenon that could produce
the dramatic distribution of debris seen on
the inside http://ian.goddard.net/freezer.jpg
of the concrete room. Fire will not do this!
I hope people appreciate -- and forgive! --
my often-excessive efforts to be sure that
my analysis is accurate. I'm my worst critic!

The bomb theory is back and really is one of
the major issues of Waco, exactly what happened
in that utterly demolished room where the women
and children were hideously burned and mutilated?
The physical evidence cries out: A BOMB, A BOMB:

http://users.erols.com/igoddard/wacorom2.htm




Re: [CTRL] Fwd: DAVID ICKE IN FIJI...

1999-10-05 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

Didn't Wilbur Smith write a novel based on the "Phoenician colony" idea back
in the 1970s? IIRC, it was quite a good historical fantasy. I wonder if
Mutwa borrowed from that book...

 -Original Message-
 From: Taylor, John (JH) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:06 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Fwd:  DAVID ICKE IN FIJI...

Credo Mutwa is a southern African shaman.
He wrote a book called Indaba my children.
In one of the chapters he wrote about Kariba was a sacred site for the
blacks.
This was not true and he was basically trying to assist the black liberation
struggle in Rhodesia. He in the book claimed that the phonecians controlled
zimbabwe before the ruins were built.

He later admitted that large portions of the book were made up. he appears
to mix real african shamanism with his own speculations, so should be taken
with a big pinch of saltbut Mr Icke has a liking for the outlandish.


John

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[CTRL] MLH, Burnt Velveeta Sandwich and Cheney

1999-10-05 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

Yes, indeed, as the breaches widening expect to have Modified Limited
Hangouts and velveeta roast headed by SMOM Patrick B.

There are crashing and burning, watch out for the flames and melting cheese.
Cui Bono and Caveat Lector. And keep you lapels close to your chest.

Oh, and NWO, SBoner Bush boy's  company choice for veep, Cheney. Well, there
has been  at least nine members of the Cheney family in Skull  Bones and the
family was involved in the Opium trade.

Om
K
-
Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
Kris

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Re: [CTRL] The Matrix: Cyber-Voodoo

1999-10-05 Thread Tatman, Robert

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As with all of Seeker1's writings, there is enough meat here to chew on for
quite a while. But one curious item leaps out at me, because it relates to
something I looked up last night: the Roman civic religious term 'pontifex',
which was transferred to the Bishop of Rome, is commonly translated as
"bridge-builder", but actually originally meant something closer to
"pathfinder" or "waymaker"--that is, a psychopomp, precisely the role filled
by Legba. (See Jaan Puhvel, *Comparative Mythology* [1987], for the
derivation of 'pontifex' and related functions in Indo-European society.)

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 Subject:  [CTRL] The Matrix: Cyber-Voodoo

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  from Steve Mizrach (aka Seeker1)
 http://www.clas.ufl.edu/anthro/cyberanthro/frontdoor.html


  THE GHOST IN THE MACHINE
  Haitian Voudoun and the Matrix


snip
  Lawless notes that the patron _loa_ of the crossroads
 ("carrefour" in the French, "kafou" in Creole) is Legba, whose
 _veve_ or mystic diagram is an elaboration of the four-armed
 cross, at once showing his links to the crossroads, Christianity,
 and the four cardinal points as defined by the solar maxima
 (equinoxes and solstices.) Legba is the interpreter for the gods
 (mediating speech between the gods and men) and the lord of
 communication and travel, often connected mythologically with
 Hermes or Mercury. Legba conducts people between this world and
 the next, and is the god of both roads/paths and
 barriers/partitions. Legba is the link, the mediating point
 between the visible/invisible, divine/human, and life/death, at
 once linked to both the garden and the graveyard. He is also
 known to be a trickster, acting capriciously malevolent at times
 to even his followers and devotees. At any Voodoo ceremony, he is
 always the first _loa_ to be invoked, because it is only through
 his permission and guidance that the rest of the ritual can
 proceed.
snip

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Re: [CTRL] mind control links

1999-10-05 Thread Steve Wilson

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I am under attack 24 hours a day,
there is a covert war going on.
These are my web pages...
 A
HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/meth/meth.htm"http://members.tripod.co
m/~mdars/meth/meth.htm/A
2
 A
HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/1/resistance.html"http://members.tripo
d.com/~mdars/1/resistance.html/A
3
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HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/usafcyb4.htm"http://members.tripod.com
/~mdars/usafcyb4.htm/A
4
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HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/delga2f.htm"http://members.tripod.com/
~mdars/delga2f.htm/A
5
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HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/delga1s.htm"http://members.tripod.com/
~mdars/delga1s.htm/A
6
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HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/ken/imptech2.htm"http://members.tripod
.com/~mdars/ken/imptech2.htm/A
7
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HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~mdars/meth/gut.htm"http://members.tripod.com
/~mdars/meth/gut.htm/A

8
A
HREF="http://www.webpost.net/wa/war2promote/detect.htm"http://www.webpost.net
/wa/war2promote/detect.htm/A

9
 A HREF=" http://www.angelfire.com/il2/alive/protest2.html"
http://www.angelfire.com/il2/alive/protest2.html/A

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Eyes Forced Shut: Who Killed Stanley Kubrick?

1999-10-05 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Actually, if anyone "wrote the script" for the Apollo 13 incident, it would
have to be Robert A. Heinlein and Jules Verne. Apollo 13 followed the plot
of Heinlein's *Destination Moon*, which was made into a landmark
science-fiction film, to an uncanny degree. The only real difference was
that Heinlein's astronauts landed on the Moon, while Apollo 13 was forced to
travel around it in a slingshot orbit like the one Jules Verne used in *From
the Earth to the Moon*. As it happens, Verne's book includes some weirdly
accurate predictions, including the launch of the "moonshot" from Florida
and the eventual splashdown in the South Pacific...

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Some also allege Kubrick filmed NASA's faked "moon landings" and wrote
the "script" for the Apollo 13 disaster/hoax. This is unlikely -- not
because the theory is far-fetched, but because the camera work on the
moon landing lacked Kubrick's unique style.

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[CTRL] Peltier Phone banking instructions for November Campaign

1999-10-05 Thread David Crockett Williams

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http://members.xoom.com/freepeltier/index.html

From: LPDC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Phone banking instructions for November Campaign
Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 10:33 AM

Dear Peltier supporters,
Below are the instructions for the telephone campaign for this November.  It
is written for the people who signed up to do phone banking however, even if
you did not sign up please participate in this important effort anyway.  If
you are unable to organize a phone bank, but can do individual calling on
your own, please do so--just follow the schedule as set forth below.  Thank
you.
In Solidarity,
The LPDC


NATIONAL TELEPHONE CAMPAIGN FOR NOVEMBER 99
PELTIER FREEDOM MONTH

Dear Friends:

We are quickly approaching our November 1999 Leonard Peltier Freedom
campaign in Washington DC.  So far we are very pleased with the response and
support that has been coming in nationwide.  The national telephone drive is
going to play a very important role in these efforts.

Throughout the years, many of us have become disillusioned with making
phone calls and writing letters.  Many people think that this is a wasted
effort, without any real impact.  However, recent experiences have proved to
the contrary.  If we all act in a unified and organized way, these calls in
fact are in fact a very powerful grassroots organizing tool.  For example,
if a few people call the White House comments line on a given day with
diverse messages, there probably will not be much impact.  However, if
thirty people call on the same day with the same message, a note goes to
President Clinton that the matter is of public interest.  If we can get 100
calls going each day with the same messages, people really sit up and pay
attention.  After all, elected officials do need the vote of the people.  We
just need to remind them that we are here, and that there are many of us.

We need people to organize local groups of about twenty people to call the
White House comments line (and if people are willing, other numbers, as
discussed below), once a week from November 1 through Thanksgiving.  Try to
get five friends together who are serious about helping you.  They in turn
are responsible for finding four friends to make the calls.  Make sure
everyone gets a copy of the basic fact summary about Leonard’s case.  No one
needs to know the details inside out, but people are more confident if they
know a bit about the story, and it is a good way to do public education as
well.  Make sure they also receive these instructions, about who to call,
and the most important points to mention.

We have found that it helps to give everyone a reminder call the day
before, and to tell them about anything new in the case, or about any
changes or updates in how things are going.  We will be sending e-mails and
faxes to all the coordinators about new developments, how the hunger
strikers are doing, what officials are saying, etc., etc.  It is also
IMMENSELY helpful to us all if your group can call you back and tell you how
things went.  What did the people at the White House comment line say, and
how did they react?  This helps us gage how much they are feeling the
pressure.  (In the beginning they will just sound bored or formal but later
some of them begin to chat with the callers.)  More importantly, every so
often, a receptionist will talk a little about the case and even ask
questions.  This helps us find out what the other side is saying.  So please
e-mail us and give us feedback.

Perhaps the most important part is helping everyone in the group understand
how important their calls are.  Not only do they have great political impact
when tightly coordinated in this way, they also give huge support to the
Freedom Fasters in Lafayette Park, and of course to Leonard himself.  We are
all part of one team.

1. WHEN DO WE CALL?
We must, of course, organize our calls in a reasonable way.  If 1,000 calls
come in on Monday, and none of the rest of the week, it won’t have the same
consistency and impact.  The schedule can of course be flexible, but we
should try to keep things on a fairly even course.  To make things easy, we
have divided the caller groups up by region.  As new people offer to do a
calling session, they can simply start in on the day assigned to their
region.  If the day assigned to your area is impossible for you, go ahead
and choose a different one.  Let us know if you can.  Once again, it is very
helpful if each group coordinator can give their members a reminder call or
e-mail the day before their calls.

MONDAY CALLS:  Northeast Region (North of Philadelphia)
TUESDAY CALLS:  Southeast Region (Philadelphia and south)
WEDNESDAY CALLS: Central Region
THRUSDAY CALLS:  Northwest Region
FRIDAY CALLS:  Southwest Region

2. WHO DO WE CALL?
The most important call is to the White House comments line, 202-456-.
This should be the first call made.  If people have time and are willing to
make a second call, 

[CTRL] It's a Bird, It's a Plane...

1999-10-05 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Thousands Flock to Tiny Village to See Reported Apparition
(Hanoi, Vietnam-AP) -- Catholics say the Virgin Mary has appeared at a
remote spot in southern Vietnam.
Buddhists say no, it's Buddha they're seeing.
Officials say actually, it's just a rock.
Whatever it is, thousands of people have flocked to a village where children
reported a human form in the mountains.
That was September 23rd. Since then, throngs have traveled to the area to
get a first-hand look.
A police officer at the scene says local authorities and the Catholic Church
have told everyone that what they're seeing is a natural phenomenon. They
say a flash flood last year uncovered a natural deposit of marble that
reflects sunlight and creates the image.
Copyright 1999 The Associated Press . All rights reserved. This material may
not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


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[CTRL] San Francisco Calls for Mormon IRS Probe

1999-10-05 Thread Tatman, Robert

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San Francisco Calls for Mormon IRS Probe
(San Francisco-AP) -- It's San Francisco versus the Mormons over a ballot
initiative.
Next March, California voters will consider a measure to limit marriage to
men and women.
The proposal is not popular in San Francisco's large gay community. But, the
Mormon church is urging its members to support the initiative financially.
The church's action angered the San Francisco city supervisors, so they
voted yesterday to ask the Internal Revenue Service to investigate the
Mormons' tax-exempt status.
That move, in turn, has angered a leading Mormon politician, Utah Senator
Orrin Hatch. The Republican presidential candidate calls the supervisors'
action "bigoted and prejudiced."
Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may
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[CTRL] 1srYenta sucks $3million+ tax-dollars 4 new int'l trip!

1999-10-05 Thread Bard

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Brothers and Sisters,  This creature is sucking us dry by traipsing all over
the world!
In selecting your candidate for President (don't be foolish and select
another member of
The National Socialist Democratic Republican Party) make damn sure his/her
spouse plays
a more traditional role of supporting his/her spouse.
I seriously doubt if Mrs. Buchanan would saddle us taxpayers with outrageous
travel expenses.
Need I remind you that the only way we are going to unshackle the chains on
our Freedom
is to vote for a constitutional conservative who will restore our Republic.
The time for our 'revenge' is not too far distant;  let's not miss the
opportunity!
I pray Mr. Buchanan will make the right decision.

"From the rage of today's downtrodden
comes the revenge of tomorrow's
revolutionary force."
Edward Britton

The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism.
But, under the name of 'liberalism', they will adopt every
fragment of the socialist program, until one day America
will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
--- Norman Thomas,
U.S. Socialist Presidential candidate

X DRUDGE REPORT X SUNDAY, OCTOBER 03, 1999 22:48:55 ET X

HILLARY'S NEW 'RAINBOW TOUR' TO COST TAXPAYERS MILLIONS

First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton is set to begin a new international tour
that will take her to Poland, Slovakia, Italy and Iceland -- at a cost of
more than three million dollars!

The trip [set for Oct. 5 to Oct. 10] will bring the number of countries
Hillary has visited to 74, during 25 solo trips abroad since her husband
took office in 1993.

The globetrotting has broken all travel records for U.S. first ladies.

Past solo destinations for Mrs. Clinton have included Russia and China,
Egypt and Brazil, El Salvador and Sri Lanka.

Hillary staffer jokingly call the First Lady's travels "The Rainbow Tour," a
reference to political trips taken by Argentinean First Lady Eva Peron.

The First Lady's press secretary [Hillary's, not Evita's] announced over the
weekend: "Throughout the trip, the First Lady will underscore the
importance -- as we approach the new millennium -- of working with
non-governmental organizations on issues of civic participation, human
rights and social investment; encouraging the economic empowerment of women;
and preserving the world's cultural heritage for future generations."

Hillary's schedule takes her to 4 nations in 4 days, with an itinerary,
obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT, that runs 16 printed pages!

The First Lady will be in non-stop motion from the moment her plane touches
down shortly after midnight on Tuesday at the Okecie Airport in Warsaw,
Poland.

[The First Lady will be in Warsaw, Poland October 5; in Bratislava on Oct.
6; in Florence, Italy, on Oct. 7; and in Reykjavik, Iceland, from Oct.
8-10.]

Day #1, Mrs. Clinton will have an audience with the President and Prime
Minister of Poland; later, and she will deliver a "major address on
encouraging the development of civil society and democracy."

Press secretary Marsha Berry continues, "The First Lady will visit a newly
established school to serve Polish Jewish children, and participate in a
roundtable discussion with small business owners at a local textile factory
to highlight the economic empowerment of women and microenterprise
development...

But it's the high cost of this week's trip that has become a point of
concern for Hillary enthusiasts.

The escalating costs of protecting the First Lady and her staff while they
are abroad has pushed the price tag of these adventures through the
millions.

One State Department source estimates that the total cost to U.S. taxpayers
for this week's trip will reach $3 to $7 million.

The White House refuses to reveal exact costs, citing security concerns.

The First Lady will travel on her own plane, an Air Force Boeing 707, and
will bring along her own press aides and other staffers.

Staff members have been sent in advance to make arrangements for events.

The highlight of the trip could come in Florence, when the First Lady will
address the "Conference on Financing, Resources, and the Economics of
Cultural and Sustainable Development," sponsored by the World Bank.

[To ease the burden on the U.S. Treasury, could someone at least get the
World Bank to comp the rooms?]

---
Filed by Matt Drudge
Reports are moved when circumstances warrant
http://www.drudgereport.com for updates
(c)DRUDGE REPORT 1999

We don't need a 3rd Party;  we need a 2nd Party!
Bard

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[CTRL] ANN [new name and site for old AFN]

1999-10-05 Thread Bard

 Brothers and Sisters, Give it a hit and see what your missing. It's now
named "America NewsNet" (a conservative news source).

 http://www.americanewsnet.com/

Bard

"Love your neighbor, but pull not down your hedge."
-- George Herbert, 1623 - 1662


"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang
separately." --Benjamin Franklin

 ANN - Front Page.url


[CTRL] (Fwd) ZNet Commentary / Oct 5 / Jim Hightower / Various...

1999-10-05 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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--- Forwarded Message Follows ---
From:   "Michael Albert" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

DON'T DIAL 9-1-1 . . . DIAL H-M-O

Let's say you're at home one evening, sitting there in your La-Z-Boy,
maybe with a cool one in your hand, when suddenly you feel a sharp pain in
your chest, your left arm is tingly and sort of numb. Heart attack! Or it
least it could be one. You go for the phone to get emergency help . . .
but you don't call 9-1-1 . . . instead you call H-M-O.

What?! Yes, it's the latest "advance" in the wonderful world of managed
health care-instead of calling 911, you've got to call your HMO, and its
corporate bureaucrats will decide whether you get an EMS to come help you.

USA Today reports that Kaiser Permanente, one of the largest HMOs in the
country, is the first to impose this new layer of corporate bureaucracy
between you and the medical service you need-a bureaucratic step that
could waste precious minutes as you explain to some Kaiser clerk sitting
in a cubicle way out in Wisconsin what your symptoms are and why you think
you need an ambulance pronto, PDQ, post haste, and, like, right now!

You'll be pleased to know that the HMO clerk at the other end of the phone
has received a good four weeks of training for the job, so of course he or
she is perfectly qualified to diagnose you from afar. If the clerk decides
you need an ambulance, one is then dispatched to you. But-get this-the HMO
will send an ambulance from a firm that it contracts with, even though
another company's ambulance is closer to you.

Kaiser says it's doing a favor for the whole society because, according to
its emergency medical services director, "there's a finite number of
ambulances. We want to reserve them for those who really need them."
Great. A corporation with a bottom-line incentive NOT to send an ambulance
is going to be the arbiter of whether you get one. And if the HMO makes a
boo-boo, leaving you dead at the other end of the phone, remember-the
Republicans in congress continue to give HMOs immunity from lawsuits.

This is Jim Hightower saying . . .
Welcome to the cold world of corporatized medicine.
"Who do you call: 911 or your HMO?" by Julie Appleby.
USA Today: August 24, 1999.


SEN. MURRAY'S AMAZING LETTER

An astonishing letter has come into my hands, and I want to share it with
you. It's a letter that Senator Patty Murray, Democrat of Washington
State, wrote to President Clinton, and it's filled with a breathtaking
level of ignorance and arrogance.

Her subject is the big meeting of the World Trade Organization to be held
in Seattle this November. Clinton, other heads of state, WTO officials,
and corporate executives are gathering to prepare a whole new round of
globaloney to shove down our throats. But some uninvited guests are going
to show up, too. Churches, consumer groups, unions, farmers, citizen
activists, environmentalists, and other citizens are coming to protest the
WTO's anti-democratic agenda of corporate supremacy.

This upsets Sen. Murray, who tells Clinton in her letter that "The Seattle
Host Organization is reporting that many companies . . . are hesitant to
become active supporters because they are concerned about security and
confrontations with various demonstrators." Well my my, we sure can't let
the people's First Amendment rights ruffle the feathers of these
distinguished corporate executives.

So she wants Clinton to do two things: First, give a national speech
explaining that [quote] "The WTO is the indispensable rule making,
enforcement body . . . for all countries." Hello . . . Patty . . .
remember the Constitution? When did we replace our own self-government
with the WTO? Second, she wants Clinton to call-in those pesky protesting
groups and tell them [quote] "that you do not want disruptive and damaging
actions distracting the media and the public from your important goals."
Right on! We can't have just plain citizens assembling in the streets and
speaking out like this was some kind of a democracy-and we certainly can't
allow the people's voices to distract the media from Bill Clinton's
"important goals."

This is Jim Hightower saying . . .
She's a U.S. Senator? Let's send Sen. Murray back to a high school civics
class. To read her whole letter, go to my website: www.jimhightower.com.



THE NAFTA RIPOFF

The use of statistics has been called the art of drawing a straight line
from a wrong assumption to a foregone conclusion.

Well, the Picasso of Statistics is the U.S. Commerce Department, which
keeps telling us how good NAFTA is for our country. For example, we're
told that our exports to Mexico are up! Never mind that our imports from
Mexico are wy up, creating the third worst trade deficit that we have
with any country in the world. But let's peek into that export number that
officials are so proud of. It turns out that four out of every ten
products that we ship to Mexico are not sold to the people there, but are
parts sold to U.S. 

[CTRL] Dancing with ...

1999-10-05 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From TheBostonHerald
http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/colm/cohen10051999.htm

{{Begin}}

Boston papers danced to FBI's tune
by Rachelle Cohen
Tuesday, October 5, 1999
It's our dirty little secret.
Except that it's not so secret any more, not if you wade knee-deep into the
garbage heap of FBI corruption described by U.S. District Court Judge Mark Wolf
in his recent voluminous decision involving the region's most notorious crime
bosses.
Rather like the Starr Report, the best material in the 661-page Wolf decision
can be found in its footnotes.
After all, that's where Wolf indicates he's turning over evidence to Attorney
General Janet Reno on yet another unnamed FBI agent (he notes by name the four
agents he's not talking about) for ``whatever action, if any, she deems
appropriate.'' Wolf charges the agent-handler in question warned his informant
of investigations concerning him and of wiretaps on his phone.
The judge leaves the impression this is a rather recent incident.
Ah, but the best material, for those of us in the often holier-than-thou world
of journalism, is also the most disturbing. It seems the FBI played the media -
some of the best reporters in the business - like the proverbial violin.
It wasn't a pretty picture, but it's one that demands a closer look.
It's June of 1989. Raymond J. Patriarca had already succeeded his dead father
as head of The Family, but factions had begun to develop, one led by Joseph
Russo, the other by Frank Salemme. And in The Family such disputes were often
deadly.
In the middle of all this was then-FBI agent John Connolly, best known as the
``handler'' for James ``Whitey'' Bulger and Stephen Flemmi until his retirement
in 1990. Connolly, it seems, was not above causing mischief among the mobsters -
 at least those who had not signed up for the John Connolly career advancement
program.
So Connolly takes some of the information provided by Flemmi and bestows it
``improperly,'' Wolf notes, on Shelley Murphy, then a reporter for the Boston
Herald. (Murphy has since gone to work for The Boston Globe and last month
reported on the Wolf decision.)
``The Boston Herald published an article by Murphy headlined, `Ex-con seen as
Hub Mob's heir apparent' which consisted mainly of information that closely
tracks the reports Connolly prepared,'' Wolf wrote. The article indicated that
Salemme had Patriarca's ``blessing'' to seize power in Boston.
Three days later - June 16, 1989 - Salemme was shot down and Patriarca Family
underboss William Grasso was murdered.
``It appears that the leak to the Boston Herald may have had the foreseeable
effect, if not purpose, of provoking the attempt to murder Salemme,'' Wolf
writes. ``If Salemme had been murdered by the Russo faction of the Patriarca
Family, the FBI would have been spared the necessity of developing a
prosecutable case against him.
``In addition, Flemmi and Bulger would have received one of the benefits of
their bargain with the Bureau - an enhanced opportunity to profit from the
vacuum created by the decimation of the LCN [La Costa Nostra] in Boston.''
Hey, the information was good. What's better than an FBI source?
Still, it makes you want to take a long shower.
Neither was rogue agent John Morris above using the media in what he hoped was
a move that might get him off the hook. Already on the take for $6,000 from
Bulger and Flemmi and afraid that if prosecuted they might rat him out,
``Morris decided to try to eliminate Bulger and Flemmi as a threat to him,''
Wolf wrote. ``To accomplish this Morris told Gerard O'Neill, a reporter for The
Boston Globe, that Bulger was an FBI informant. Morris expected that the
newspaper would publish this fact, while protecting Morris as its source.
Morris also calculated that such a story would prompt the LCN to murder Bulger
and probably prove fatal to Flemmi as well.''
Well, the story eventually ran on Sept. 20, 1988, but not before yet another
agent, Thomas Daly, attempted to kill the thing by intimidating the bejeesus
out of a second reporter on the story, Kevin Cullen, who had the misfortune of
making his home in Bulger's own South Boston.
``The Boston Globe article contributed to Bulger and Flemmi's decision to
withdraw from some of their most obvious criminal activity in an effort to
insulate themselves from effective investigation and prosecution,'' Wolf wrote.
``In this sense the timing of The Boston Globe article was fortuitous.''
So the Globe article, designed by Morris to fry his two favorite thugs, saved
their butts.
Dontcha just hate when that happens!
In his decision Wolf quotes a 1924 warning by Attorney General Harlan Fiske
Stone (later chief justice) when he established the FBI:
``There is always the possibility that a secret police may become a menace to
free government and free institutions because it carries with it the
possibility of abuses of power which are not always quickly apprehended or
understood.''
Now we can count a free press among the 

[CTRL] Wag the Russian Wolfhound

1999-10-05 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From www.mises.org

{{Begin}}
Why Russia Is Destroying Chechnya
by YURI N. MALTSEV
[Post October 1, 1999]
Russia’s ruling elite finds incessant armed conflicts necessary for its own
survival. Having claimed that the intervention in Chechnya is meant to “punish
terrorism” and defend Russians from Chechen terrorist bombings, Yeltsin’s
government is unleashing another genocidal war against Chechnya and other
Muslim parts of Russia. This perfectly illustrates the old Russian tradition of
creating new problems, rather than solving existing ones.
It also resembles the “Wag the Dog” scenario at least as much as US bombings of
the Sudanese pharmaceutical plant on the eve of Monica Lewinsky’s testimony.
Bombings of apartment complexes in Moscow and other Russian cities conveniently
distract public attention from the grim reality of corruption at the very top
of the Russian hierarchy.
In fact, there is little or no evidence linking any of the apartment bombings
to “Chechen terrorists.” General Aleksandr Lebed, one of the most popular
candidates for the Russian presidency next year, believes that the so-called
“terrorist bombings” were actually fabricated by the Kremlin itself. Chechen
rebel leader Shamil Basayev has proudly claimed previous terrorist attacks on
Russia, including a 1995 attack on a hospital in the village of Budyonnovsk,
Southern Russia. This time, however, he denies having anything to do with the
bombings.
Like Lebed, Basayev believes these bombings are the work not of Chechens, but
of the Kremlin or its politically active secret services, as a way of provoking
chaos and swamping the coming presidential elections. Vladimir Putin, an ex-KGB
operative, may be the lynch pin: he is trying to secure his claim to the
presidency in June 2000 in the wake of the present nationalist hysteria.
From Peter the Great to Stalin, the Russian people have been cajoled by their
governments to rely upon conspiracy theories to explain why they require a
massive government. Today, the politically and economically bankrupt Yeltsin
regime is attempting to boost its popularity by conducting a swift, victorious
war against a convenient scapegoat: “Chechen terrorist wolves.” (A wolf is the
symbol of the Chechen Republic. This animal is respected among Chechens as a
symbol of freedom and independence).
Another strong motive for the war is to warn the other fifteen national
republics of Russia to remain within the Federation. It is obvious that one of
the real aims, rather than to destroy guerrilla commanders Basayev and Khattab,
is to break Chechnya’s will and bring it back into Moscow’s orbit. More than
100,000 Chechen and ethnic Russian civilians in Chechnya were killed by Russian
militarists during the war of 1994-1996.
Russia has, for the third time, fallen into a trap. The first time was in
Afghanistan. There, admits Lebed, “we began the war with lofty aims but ended
up with a war against the people.” A few years later, the same happened in the
small, breakaway nation of Chechnya (which had been brutally conquered under
both the tsars and the communists). “People are fighting,” continues Lebed, “to
avenge their killed relatives and ruined homes. No military leader, no matter
how brilliant he may be, has ever won a war against the people... That is why I
reject all the talk of Russia's integrity and indivisibility. Is it possible to
ensure the integrity of Russia by killing hundreds and maiming thousands of
people every day?”
“I am often asked,” Lebed says, “if I know who is responsible for this war.
Yes, I know all of them by name. I am also sure that this war has economic
roots camouflaged in politics. Now is not the time to name these people,
because chances are rather high that the war may resume with fresh force and on
an even larger scale.”
The Chechen economy, already in dire straits after 75 years of the Soviet
communism, was completely destroyed during two years of ferocious air attacks
in 1994-96. Industrial plants, bridges, and municipal utilities were hit along
with residential areas. Rapes and murders were carried out by Russian occupying
forces. Bombings killed tens of thousands of civilians.
Al Gore visited Russia during the first day of the war in 1994 and promised
Yeltsin unconditional US support in his genocidal campaign against Chechens.
The next day Russian fighter-bombers and helicopter gun-ships completely
destroyed the capital city of Grozny and numerous villages. Cowardly unfocused
nighttime bombing went unpunished.
While claiming that Chechnya’s residents were Russian Federation citizens,
Russian authorities unleashed an unprecedented racist propaganda campaign
against Chechens as a people. Putin publicly accused them of having a “criminal
character” and of running organized crime networks in Russia. Russian statists
from Aleksandr Barkashov, the leader of the Russian National Unity Party, which
styles itself a fascist party, to Alexei Arbatov, the leader of the so called

[CTRL] On: The Dangers of Science (fwd)

1999-10-05 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:22:17 -0600
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Subject: ScienceWeek BULLETIN October 4, 1999

From:

SW BULLETIN - October 4, 1999
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This Week's Report:


ON THE QUESTION OF THE DANGERS OF SCIENCE

Lewis Wolpert (University College London, UK), in a "commentary"
article, considers the classic question whether science is
dangerous, the author making the following points:

 1) The idea that knowledge is dangerous is deeply embedded
in our culture. Indeed, Western literature is filled with images
of scientists meddling with nature with disastrous results.
Scientists are portrayed as a soulless group, unconcerned with
ethical issues.

 2) The social obligations that scientists have, as distinct
from those responsibilities they share with all citizens, come
from scientists having access to specialized knowledge of how the
world works, knowledge that is not easily accessible to others.
The obligation of scientists is to make public any social
implications of their work and its technological applications,
and to give some assessment of the reliability of their work. In
most areas of science, it matters little whether a particular
theory is right or wrong, but in some areas, such as human and
plant genetics, it matters a great deal.

 3) The most clear case of immorality in scientific research
was the eugenics movement. The scientific assumptions behind this
movement were crucial: that most human attributes (desirable and
undesirable) are inherited. The scientists concerned completely
failed to give an assessment of the reliability of their ideas or
sufficiently to consider the implications of their ideas. On the
contrary, and even more blameworthy, their conclusions seem to
have been driven by what they saw as desirable social
implications. In contrast, the Allied scientists who built the
atomic bomb behaved morally, and fulfilled their social
obligations by informing their governments about the implications
of atomic theory. The decision to build the bomb was taken by
politicians, not scientists.

 4) The very term "genetic engineering" conjures up the image
of Frankenstein and his monster. The media are aware of this and
often report what can be regarded as genetic pornography --
reports dressed up to titillate and frighten. Newspapers print
sensational and unjustifiable headlines such as the "Frankenstein
foods" idiocy surrounding genetically modified organisms in the
UK.
 5) Bioethics is a growth industry that purports to address
questions concerning the dangers to society posed by biological
science. But one should regard this field with caution, as
bioethicists have a vested interest in finding difficulties.

 6) Are there areas of research that are so socially
sensitive that they should be avoided, even proscribed? Once one
begins to censor the acquisition of objective knowledge, one is
on the most slippery edge of all. Scientists cannot easily
predict the social and technological implications of research, as
is demonstrated by numerous examples in the history of science
and technology.

 7) The author concludes: "National and international
councils that can assess the ethical issues relating to the
applications of science and promote public debate are no doubt
valuable. But one wonders what such a committee would have said
if the public had been offered a convenient form of transport,
but at the cost, in the United Kingdom alone, of more than 3000
lives per year, a quarter of a million injured and the untold
damage of pollution. Where are the car-ethicists?"

---
Lewis Wolpert: Is science dangerous?
(Nature 25 Mar 99 398:281)
Contact info: Lewis Wolpert [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

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[CTRL] Search THIS!!!

1999-10-05 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From The Las Vegas RJ
http://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/1999/Oct-03-Sun-1999/opinion/12001171.html


{{Begin}}
COLUMN: Vin Suprynowicz
I watched the Bill of Rights dying last month
 Last month, I watched the Bill of Rights dying. I don't know if anyone
else noticed; it's been on its deathbed so long that most folks don't even go
visit anymore.
  After a pleasant evening speaking to the Karl Hess Club in Marina del
Rey, my return flight to Las Vegas had been abruptly canceled by America West
the night before. So I found myself approaching the security checkpoint at
Terminal 1 of LAX at 6:10 a.m., preparing to catch the 7:56 to Vegas.
  I pushed my carry-on bag through the X-ray machine, submitting to its
scan of my personal effects despite the fact neither the airline nor the
airport administration held any warrant to search them, nor even offered me any
probable cause.
  But was that enough? Not last Tuesday. As my bag came down the belt, a
tall, sleepy-eyed young man with a shaved head and an ill-fitting blue blazer,
standing on the other side of the conveyer belt, asked "Sir, do you mind if I
search your bag?"
  I replied: "Actually, I do mind. I do not consent to any search of my
bag."
  The young man acted as though I had not heard his question. "Sir, do you
mind if I search your bag?"
  "Yes, I do mind. I do not grant my consent for any search of my bag."
  "Sir," he repeated, "do you mind if I search your bag?"
  I still don't know how long this would have continued. Sensing that it
was up to me to jog the needle on this trance-like broken record, I next asked,
"Did you see something on the X-ray that looked like a weapon?"
  "No sir," he admitted. "It's a random search."
  "A random search?"
  "A random search."
  At this point, a bearded dwarf in a tweed jacket, looking for all the
world like former Clinton cabinet secretary Robert Reich, appeared at my left
shoulder, coming to the aid of my somnolent oppressor. "He can ask you to
search the bag, and if you refuse, he doesn't have to let you continue," said
this strange apparition, holding his own two suitcases and a plastic shopping
bag.
  "How is this any of your concern?" I asked the dwarf. "Do you work for
the airline?"
  "No," he smiled proudly, like an enormously self-contented bridge-player
laying down the last trump card. "I work for the FAA."
  "And you're on duty here?"
  "No, I'm not. But I know about this," he smiled even more broadly.
  "Then you must know the security directive says they should ask to see
our photo ID, but it specifically goes on to say that if we refuse, they can
not bar us from boarding" I said quite firmly, drawing the attention of the
sleepy-eyed fellow's lady supervisor, who now waddled over to join us. "So I
assume it's the same with these 'random bag checks.' That's why they ask for
our permission, right? If they don't need our consent, why keep asking for it?"
  Astonishingly enough, at this point, the dwarf's smile collapsed, and he
turned and trundled away like a disturbed woodchuck.
  "Sir," asked the tall young man, clinging to the security of his minimal
training and apparently hoping to break the record of Paul McCartney, who once
managed to find more than a dozen different ways to sing the eight words "Why
don't we do it in the road?" in the same recording session, "do you mind if I
check your bag?"
  "Listen," I said, "I do not grant my consent, and I'm not going to grant
my consent. If you believe you don't need my consent, then do what you have to
do."
  At this point, the young man went through the motions of unzipping and re-
zipping the two small side compartments on my bag, barely glancing at, in turn,
a clean pair of white socks and a plastic bottle of Pepto-Bismol. He never
undid the straps or unzipped the main body of the bag, at all. "Thank you," he
said.
  "I'm not going to thank you," I replied, "because we still have a Fourth
Amendment in this country, which protects us from warrantless searches. You do
know that, right?"
  The bald young man looked right through me, focusing on the far wall, his
heavy-lidded eyes blinking slowly. His supervisor, who had been puffing up to
say something before the FAA troll butted in, looked disgusted but averted her
eyes, refusing to meet my gaze.
  These are the faces of tyranny, bored and uncaring. When instructed to
load us political nonconformists onto cattle cars bound for the internment
camps, they will do so in unquestioning, shuffling boredom, eyeing the clock to
make sure they don't work a minute into their next scheduled break.
  Thus are our precious constitutional rights daily rendered null and void
by uncaring stooges, like dying rest-home patients clutching their bedframes in
silent agony, writhing their death throes in their own excrement as the bored
orderlies play cards in the break room down the hall, the sound turned 

[CTRL] Libertarian Page

1999-10-05 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From http://www.sky.net/~robertf/

The linques are 'hot' at the site.  AER 


{{Begin}}
Bob Fisher's Home Page:
Always vote for a principle, though you vote alone, and you may cherish the
sweet reflection that your vote is never lost.
-- John Quincy Adams
The Democrats are the ones who will give you a loan. The Republicans are the
ones who will guarantee you a loan. The Libertarians are the ones who will
leave you alone.
-- Cal Ludeman
The content of this page has been changed to reflect my growing concern that
our government is becoming too powerful and too intrusive. Current events seem
to reflect a growing trend toward the 'theft' of our constitutional rights
(including, but not limited to: attempts at restriction of free speech, loss of
property rights and property seizure without due process, unnecessary and
excessive gun control, and even a serious effort to ban some books and make
burning of the flag against the law!) by the government.
Therefore, I've changed the page to include more links and sources of
information for libertarian ideas.
Hopefully, this will, in some small measure, help to educate and inform. It is
also my sincere wish that it will (possibly) encourage some to action.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the
argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
-- William Pitt
It may be better to live under robber barons than under the omnipotent moral
busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at
some point be satisfied; but those who torment us for our own good will torment
us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
-- C.S. Lewis
The links below represent an interesting - and for many new - world of truth,
morality, logic and reason (all of which are too obscured in today's society).
Enjoy the journey and remember to read with an open mind...
I think you'll be surprised!
Home Page for Libertarianism
The place to start learning about libertarianism
Liberty Journal
Lot's of cool stuff
Liberty Round Table
Another great libertarian site
US Libertarian Party - "The Party of Principle"
Join if you're convinced. Be sure to look for LP candidates when voting as
well!
Advocates for Self-Government
An excellent libertarian resource
Constitution Society Home Page
Find out what the Constitution actually does say - and why
F.E.A.R. Home Page
Forfeiture Endangers American Rights Foundation
Gun Owners of America
The 2nd Amendment is important!
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
Clear thinking from some people who know all about 'gun control'
Neal Boortz
The hottest radio talk show host in the country and a self-proclaimed
Libertarian. Better move over Rush!
Harry Browne for President
The 1996 LP presidential candidate - who will likely be running in 2000 as well
C-SPAN
About the only true "we report, you decide" journalism on television. They do
good stuff!
Free Speech, the Internet and Holocaust Revisionism by Raeto West
A very objective analysis of the Holocaust controversy and what the suppression
of it means for free speech
Laissez Faire Books Home Page
My favorite little book seller
No Free Lunch Distributors
Get Tim Slagle's "Nation of Criminals" tape. You'll laugh so hard that it
hurts!
Wolfe's Lodge
Website of Claire Wolfe: one of the most prolific writers and thinkers on
freedom of our age
World Net Daily - "A Free Press for a Free People"
A great source for news beyond what the mainstream media will give you
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[CTRL] WACO: Evidence Shouts BOMB!

1999-10-05 Thread Lloyd Miller

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From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 12:32 PM

THE WACO BOMB PAGE IS BACK:

http://ian.goddard.net/wacorom2.htm

Careful measurement of the proper location
of the concrete room backed with a new webpage
(http://ian.goddard.net/measure.htm) showing
how it's done to satisfy one and all that it
is correct proves that my initial placement
was not more than roughly four-feet off, the
result being effectively nill... the blast is
decisively on top of the room, not coming from
behind it where a propane tank was located,
about ten-feet away from the room's rear wall.

I have also received many counters that allay
the skeptical concerns I cited, which I will
cover in subsequent messages. Observe that the
base of the stem of the fireball is about ten-
feet wide or more, which means that this is
NOT a thin jet of gas streaming from the valve
of an over-heated propane tank! Those who know
about these tanks tell me that an overheated
tank venting its contents would NOT produce
the explosive fireball seen. Also observe that
the fireball has carried debris up with it,
which is another phenomena not consistent
with gas being ejected from and escape valve.

I now feel embarrassed for having retracted
my declaration of proof of a military-grade
explosive going off. To be frank, there is
simply NO other phenomenon that could produce
the dramatic distribution of debris seen on
the inside http://ian.goddard.net/freezer.jpg
of the concrete room. Fire will not do this!
I hope people appreciate -- and forgive! --
my often-excessive efforts to be sure that
my analysis is accurate. I'm my worst critic!

The bomb theory is back and really is one of
the major issues of Waco, exactly what happened
in that utterly demolished room where the women
and children were hideously burned and mutilated?
The physical evidence cries out: A BOMB, A BOMB:

http://users.erols.com/igoddard/wacorom2.htm


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Re: [CTRL] WACO: Evidence Shouts BOMB!

1999-10-05 Thread Linda Minor

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After examination of the Waco crime scene, Gordon Novel, an investigator
in the civil suit against the Federal Government for wrongful death, came to
the shocking conclusion that a bomb had been exploded on the top of the
concrete room wherein forty one women and children died. Novel's conclusion
has been corroborated by independent experts, including Brigadier General
Benton Partin. 



I still haven't been able to learn whether this is the same Gordon Novel
involved in the JFK (Sr.) assassination.  Does anyone know?

Linda Minor

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[CTRL] Blau beam

1999-10-05 Thread earthman

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Hi all,
This is a page on  blue beam, with proper punctuation etc..

http://www.connectcorp.net/~hoseaministries/page10.html



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[CTRL] BUSINESS WHORES WIN AGAIN [see site for names]

1999-10-05 Thread Bard

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"The debate paled in contrast to the fight over trade with China, but it
evoked powerful emotions from many veterans. Representative Sam Johnson, a
Texas Republican who served seven years in a Vietnamese prison after his Air
Force jet had been shot down, urged rejection of the waiver."

The 123 Republicans voting with President Clinton (Roll Call no. 365,
297-130, 8/3/99) were:

http://www.conservativeusa.org/vote-rec.htm


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[CTRL] DEBT FORGIVENESS MEANS YOUR TAXES PAY OFF THE BIG BANKS

1999-10-05 Thread Bard

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"(b) SENSE OF THE CONGRESS--It is the sense of the Congress that relief
provided to countries in sub-Saharan Africa which qualify for the Heavily
Indebted Poor Countries debt initiative should primarily be made through
grants rather than through extended-term debt, and that interim relief or
interim financing should be provided for eligible countries that establish a
strong record of macroeconomic reform. ...

"[Sec. 10b] ...In addition to continuing bilateral and multilateral economic
and development assistance, the President shall target technical assistance
toward-- ...(B) bring[ing] their legal regimes into compliance with the
standards of the World Trade Organization in conjunction with membership in
that Organization. ..."

http://www.conservativeusa.org/vote-rec.htm

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[CTRL] Spread the word! tell your friends about this web site

1999-10-05 Thread Bard

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This is the one-stop resource for conservative
activists to lobby for less government and lower taxes!

http://www.conservativeusa.org/default.htm

It's all here Folks!  Go for it.

Bard

"But when I was in England I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and
I didn't like it.
I DIDN'T INHALE it, and never tried it again."
--- Bill Clinton

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[CTRL] Reaffirm Your Commitment to the American Founding

1999-10-05 Thread Bard

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"We advocate and practice discussion of national issues as they relate to
America's founding principles.
For continued success, we believe this nation needs to return to the Rule of
Law, Individual Rights,
the Security of Property, and the same American Identity for all its
citizens."
http://www.founding.org/opening.html

Note:  If you Sign the Reaffirmation your Name will appear on the List
amongst your fellow-Americans.

Go for it Folks.  All that's required is your Name and E-mail Address.
(just your name appears on the List)

Make sure you Reload the List after you've made your Reaffirmation.

May your Creator bless you with the Spirit to do the right thing in the
coming elections.

Bard

Oligarchy

The oligarchy is the government by the rich.
Plato: "A government resting on a valuation of property, in which the rich
have power and the poor man is deprived of it. And so they grow richer and
richer, and the more they think of making a fortune the less they think of
virtue; for when riches and virtue are placed together in the scales of the
balance, the one always rises as the other falls."

Aristotle: "For democracy is said to be the government of the many. But what
if the many are men of property and have the power in their hands? For the
real difference between democracy and oligarchy is poverty and wealth. The
democrats think that, as they are equal, they ought to be equal in all
things; while the oligarchs, under the idea that they are unequal, claim too
much, which is more inequality... those which incline more toward oligarchy
are called aristocracies, and those which incline more toward democracy
constitutional governments. Therefore the latter are the safer of the two,
for the greater the number, the greater the strength, and when men are equal
they are contented. But the rich, if the government gives them power, are
apt to be insolent and avaricious... The only stable principle of government
is equality according to proportion, and every man to enjoy his own."

Machiavelli, The Prince: "When states, newly acquired have been accustomed
to living freely under their own laws, there are three ways to hold them
securely; first, by devastating them; next by going and living there in
person; thirdly by letting them keep their own laws, exacting tribute, and
setting up an oligarchy which will keep the state friendly to you."
[09, 10, 223]

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[CTRL] Risperdal anyone?

1999-10-05 Thread Yardbird

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Does anyone have any info on the drug Risperdal and/or whether it has been
linked to anything unusual?

Thanx,

Jamieson

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[CTRL] NWO Scapegoat #1 Seeks To Reconcile!

1999-10-05 Thread William Shannon

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Report: Saddam Sends Message to
Clinton Seeking Reconciliation
7.14 p.m. ET (2314 GMT) October 4, 1999
CAIRO, Egypt — Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has reportedly given Jordan's
king a message for President Clinton, suggesting a reconciliation and a
dialog to settle outstanding problems, an Arabic newspaper reported Monday.

Jassim Mohammed/AP


The London-based Azzaman quoted diplomats in Amman as saying that Saddam's
message was given to King Abdullah II by Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq
Aziz, who made a surprise visit to Amman on Sunday.

Abdullah is scheduled to meet with Clinton on Oct. 12.

The newspaper said Saddam has promised to reconsider oil agreements made with
Russia and France with the aim of offering oil concessions to U.S. companies.
The report, made available to The Associated Press in Cairo, says priority
would be given to American firms in rebuilding Iraq's battered
infrastructure.

"Iraq has offered guarantees that it will not mar the peace process in the
Middle East, has expressed readiness to take part in the multilateral talks
... and promised to accept Palestinians in Iraq to solve the refugee
problem," the paper said in its report, to be published Tuesday.

The report said Saddam's sudden move was built on the assumption that the
United States has failed to normalize relations with Iran, which is
considered a threat to U.S. interests in the Gulf. Iraq would like to revive
the good relations it had with the United States during the 1980-88 Iraq-Iran
war.

Several reports of Iraqi attempts at rapprochement with the United States
have been denied by the U.S. administration.

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[CTRL] New Evidence Links WH to Effort to Destroy Linda Tripp (fwd)

1999-10-05 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From:

http://www.judicialwatch.org

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
October 5, 1999

Contact: Joe Giganti
(202) 646-5172

NEW EVIDENCE LINKS WHITE HOUSE TO EFFORT TO DESTROY LINDA TRIPP

Clinton White House Worried About Her Testimony in Filegate

White House Obtained Her FBI File, And Clinton Appointees
Released Information from Privacy Act-Protected Pentagon File

(Washington, D.C.) Judicial Watch forced the Clinton White House
to admit, under oath, that Joe Lockhart, Bill Clinton's current
spokesman, referred a reporter to the Pentagon for confidential
information on Linda Tripp, information protected by a federal
law known as the Privacy Act. Judicial Watch, a not-for-profit
law firm that exposes and prosecutes government corruption,
uncovered the new information through the Filegate $90 million
civil lawsuit it filed on behalf of those Bush and Reagan
staffers (and others) whose FBI file information was improperly
obtained by the Clinton White House.

In written interrogatory responses filed in federal court, the
Clinton White House admitted a direct connection to the Tripp
Pentagon file release:

"[Former Clinton Press Secretary Mike] McCurry recalls being
informed by his deputy Joe Lockhart that Mr. Lockhart had
received a telephone call about Linda Tripp from Jane Mayer of
The New Yorker, and that Mr. Lockhart referred Ms. Mayer to the
Department of Defense. Mr. McCurry does not recall specifically
what was stated by Mr. Lockhart or himself."

Mayer then spoke to Clinton political appointee and Pentagon
official Kenneth Bacon who ordered that his underling, Clifford
Bernath, release the information to Mayer. Judicial Watch
uncovered Bacon's role, which was initially covered up by the
Clinton Administration, in a deposition of Bernath.

Linda Tripp has testified to Judicial Watch that Clinton
confidante and White House lawyer Bruce Lindsey told her she
would be "destroyed" if she came forward and exposed illegal
activities she witnessed in the Clinton White House – including
Filegate. In fact, Tripp's FBI file was obtained by the Clinton
White House. So not only is Tripp a material witness in the
Filegate matter, but a member of the putative plaintiff class of
Filegate victims.

Judicial Watch also uncovered Pentagon documents showing that
Secretary of Defense William Cohen was likely involved in the
release of the Tripp information. Other evidence shows Cohen
countenanced the cover-up of the true circumstances of the Tripp
information release. Judicial Watch is investigating the Tripp
Pentagon file release because the Court ruled that any misuse of
Tripp's file is evidence of a pattern of conduct by the Clinton
White House in its misuse of Republican and other FBI files.

Judicial Watch had provided all this information and evidence to
Ms. Tripp and her lawyers for use in the civil lawsuit filed last
week against the Clinton White House and others.

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Re: [CTRL] Reaffirm Your Commitment to the American Founding

1999-10-05 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Bard wrote:

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 "We advocate and practice discussion of national issues as they relate to
 America's founding principles.

America's founding principles were concocted by our Founding Finaglers who
are well described by the philosophers below. The Founding Finaglers made
damn sure that the institutions of power they constructed for themselves
would never completely be usurped by the non rich.

The Founding Finaglers were the Founding Oligarchs, and nothing has changed
much in more than two centuries. The constitution is no joke. It's the
Oligarchs' instrument of power.

Joshua2


 Oligarchy

 The oligarchy is the government by the rich.
 Plato: "A government resting on a valuation of property, in which the rich
 have power and the poor man is deprived of it. And so they grow richer and
 richer, and the more they think of making a fortune the less they think of
 virtue; for when riches and virtue are placed together in the scales of the
 balance, the one always rises as the other falls."

 Aristotle: "For democracy is said to be the government of the many. But what
 if the many are men of property and have the power in their hands? For the
 real difference between democracy and oligarchy is poverty and wealth. The
 democrats think that, as they are equal, they ought to be equal in all
 things; while the oligarchs, under the idea that they are unequal, claim too
 much, which is more inequality... those which incline more toward oligarchy
 are called aristocracies, and those which incline more toward democracy
 constitutional governments. Therefore the latter are the safer of the two,
 for the greater the number, the greater the strength, and when men are equal
 they are contented. But the rich, if the government gives them power, are
 apt to be insolent and avaricious... The only stable principle of government
 is equality according to proportion, and every man to enjoy his own."

 Machiavelli, The Prince: "When states, newly acquired have been accustomed
 to living freely under their own laws, there are three ways to hold them
 securely; first, by devastating them; next by going and living there in
 person; thirdly by letting them keep their own laws, exacting tribute, and
 setting up an oligarchy which will keep the state friendly to you."
 [09, 10, 223]

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Re: [CTRL] Reaffirm Your Commitment to the American Founding

1999-10-05 Thread M.A. Johnson

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Joshua
America's founding principles were concocted by our
Founding Finaglers who are well described by the
philosophers below. The Founding Finaglers made
damn sure that the institutions of power they
constructed for themselves would never completely
be usurped by the non rich.

The Founding Finaglers were the Founding Oligarchs,
and nothing has changed much in more than two
centuries. The constitution is no joke. It's the
Oligarchs' instrument of power.

MJ:
The Oligarchy is found in the Court for which Marshall
USURPED unlimited power with Marbury v. Madison.
The Constitution itself and the united States ceased
with the traitor Lincoln (title having NOTHING to do
with slavery).

Regard$,
--MJ

The powers delegated to the federal government are few
and defined. -- James Madison, Federalist 45

The constitution, on this hypothesis, is a mere thing of wax
in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape
into any form they please.
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Re: [CTRL] Samatobryn

1999-10-05 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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At 11:16 PM 05, 10, , 1999 +1300, you wrote:
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Guys...help me out with this one...Where is "Samatobryn" ...and How much is
100 leagues?

Century 6 - Quatrain 5

A so great famine caused by pestiferous rain [or wave, but more likely rain]

By long rain through the length of the arctic poles

"Samatobryn" one hundred leagues from the hemisphere,

Will live without laws, exempt from politic.

6th century - equator plus or minus 150 miles ... [imo] aztec/mayan
south american  or equatorial africa  arabia ... etc ???

I hope ol' Nosty hasn't given some governments the excuse they need !!!

Andrew




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Re: [CTRL] Review: 'Roswell' easily one of the season's most appealing new shows

1999-10-05 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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[Funny, I got cable (i.e., ~100+ channels), and I can't find this
show??  Any body know about it/what network, etc.???  ..MS]



On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Stig Agermose wrote:


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 Source: Star-Telegram,

 http://www.star-telegram.com/news/doc/1047/1:ENTNEWS31/1:ENTNEWS31100599.html

 Stig

 ***

 Updated: Tuesday, Oct. 5, 1999 at 12:39 CDT

 Teen Alienation: 'Roswell,' a savvy hybrid of 'Buffy' and 'X-Files,'
 explores youthful angst from an alien's viewpoint

 By Ken Parish Perkins
 Star-Telegram TV Critic

 *

 When Roswell was announced as part of the WB's fall lineup, my greatest
 fear was that it would be a Buffy the Vampire Slayer rip-off, a shamelessly
 campy attempt at wiseacre one-liners and lame pop-culture puns wrapped
 around a doomed romance and aliens with bad makeup jobs.

 Just as troubling was the knowledge that the drama would borrow heavily
 from the fabled high-desert crash of a UFO in 1947.

 I began to slide even deeper into skepticism, wondering if Roswell would be
 an X-Files clone, offering up a slew of are-you-kidding-me? story lines on
 whether the U.S. government is still holding out on us regarding that
 infamous crash, and if aliens are stashed in an underground bunker
 somewhere or serving up hot dogs at some fast-food drive-through.

 Well, after digesting a couple episodes of the teen drama, my greatest
 fears were realized -- and what a relief.

 Roswell borrowed heavily but wisely, and seems to have turned out quite a
 watchable synthesis of Buffy and The X-Files, combining the best elements
 of the two to produce a moody, satisfying series that's easily one of the
 season's most appealing new shows.

 Brooding, sexy and engaging, Roswell moves with a subtle swagger, taking on
 the always difficult challenge of juggling sci-fi, horror, humor and
 romance, and doing it with a straight face, so that what is essentially an
 innately silly idea never comes off as innately silly.

 Executive producers Jason Katims, a writer-producer for My So-Called Life
 and Relativity, and David Nutter, an X-Files director and writer of last
 year's teen film Disturbing Behavior, have based Roswell on Melinda Metz's
 popular book series Roswell High, about three teen-age aliens trying to
 keep their identity secret.

 They knew that if they allowed the audience to dismiss the core concept of
 Roswell -- that these kids could actually exist -- they'd have nothing, and
 the show would be about as believable as, say, Buffy is that vampirism is a
 metaphor for teen-age lust, the obvious sentiment in Roswell is that
 there's no better metaphor for teen-age alienation than to 'be' a teen-age
 alien.

 Our alien teens come from an incubator pod aboard the crashed spacecraft.
 Two of them, the soft-spoken, level-headed Max Evans (Jason Behr) and his
 sister, Isabel Evans (Katherine Heigl), were found walking naked along the
 road as small children and adopted by the family that found them.

 Michael Guerin (Brendan Fehr) was adopted, too, but he's clearly the
 cynical alien of the three. His guardian "just keeps me around for the
 monthly check," Michael barks in the pilot. (Scenes develop this story
 line: Max and Isabel play hoops with their parents in the driveway, but
 Michael slithers through a cluttered trailer past an alcoholic dad glued to
 a TV set.)

 Roswell begins with the apparent death of teen-ager Liz Parker (Shiri
 Appleby), a waitress who is accidentally shot in the stomach during an
 argument between two patrons in her father's diner.

 As Liz falls, blood oozing from her stomach, Max dashes over and heals the
 gunshot wound with a touch that leaves a silver palm print on Liz's
 stomach. Realizing that he's being watched, he grabs a bottle of ketchup,
 smashes it, and smears it on Liz, telling her to say nothing of what just
 occurred.

 Max's decision to reveal himself to Liz is an unforgivable breach of trust
 that the alien teens believe will come with deadly consequences. Frets
 Isabel: "Don't you realize it's only a matter of time before they find us
 and turn us over to some government agency, where they're going to test us
 and prod us -- and exterminate us?"

 As written, that line almost sounds comical, but by this time, Roswell has
 already established its own mood of trust and realism.

 Just exactly who "they" are is a matter of mystery the producers will
 certainly use to their advantage. The FBI here is a group of shadowy,
 straight-laced men in suits, quickly dismissing claims of UFOs one minute
 and confiscating files from the local sheriff the next.

 Played by a well-cast William Sadler, the sheriff is the Coyote to the
 aliens' Roadrunner, a determined soul with a personal stake in finding the
 truth. His father was a law enforcement officer in 1959 when a body was
 found bearing the same silver hand print found on Liz.

 Reporting the incident ruined his career. "Do you know what everyone at the
 agency called your father?" a 

[CTRL] What's wrong with today's liberals and conservatives?

1999-10-05 Thread k

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By Steve Green

Too often, voters' choice is limited to moral theocrats or economic
statists

   There was a time when "liberal" meant a respect for civil liberties
such as free speech, restrictions on government searches, the
principle of being presumed innocent until proven guilty, etc.  Some
1960s liberals even went so far as to support drug decriminalization
and other reforms of victimless crime laws.  Of course, they were
always, and continue to be, hostile to private property rights,
advocates of high taxes and income redistribution, and regulation.
They have always been economic statists.
 Today's Democrat doesn't even have respect for civil liberties.
They are totally committed to government regulating every aspect
of the human condition.
 Not wanting to appear soft on crime, they support warrantless
searches.  Free speech is okay if politically correct - but not
otherwise.  Commercial speech is subject to great regulation,
especially if you sell tobacco.  Pornography can be censored since
it "demeans" women.  Guns should only be possessed by the
police.  If you appear suspicious, you forfeit your property - even if
not found guilty of a crime.  Schools need not teach reading,
writing and arithmetic as long as they issue condoms and teach
liberal social ideas.
 Nothing is subject to private ownership.  If you own a bar, the
government tells you that your patrons must not smoke.  If you
own rural property, you must not be allowed to develop it.

 Run your business
 If you make an honest living, you must pay 40% of your
earnings to the government.  You must be told who to hire and
when you can fire.  The government specifies the proper wage and
how to run your business.
 So today's Democrat is like yesterday's authoritarian.
Everything you do should be subject to governmental approval.
You are considered incompetent to conduct either your economic
or your personal life without the government's express consent.
 By contrast, sometimes the Republicans can be given credit for
supporting at least some form of economic freedom.  Of course,
there are numerous exceptions.  But by and large, there is still
some respect for private property and some belief in limits on taxes
by today's ultra-conservative who dominates the Republican Party.
Unfortunately, they are all too often willing to compromise with the
Democrats on economic freedoms.
 But there is a big price for this limited economic freedom offered
by the Republicans.  Conservatives have always been hostile to
certain non-economic civil liberties - but today they are much
worse.
 On the one hand, a conservative will support technological
development such as the internet by attempting to limit taxes and
business regulation.  On the other hand, conservatives want to
censor the entire World Wide Web to protect children, since
parents are considered incompetent.
 Of course, the end result will be destruction of a new
technology along with new, selectively prosecuted, unenforceable
laws.
 The conservatives rightfully oppose the liberal school
curriculum.  However, in its place, they offer their own social
programming.  While we have a diverse society of many religions,
including individuals who choose no religion at all, the social
conservative wishes to teach us creationism and some form of
state-mandated prayer.
 To their credit, these same conservatives generally support
school choice, but until such time as vouchers become law, we are
held hostage to a choice of a liberal school curriculum or a state
specified religious one.
 To the social conservative, there is no difference between
religion and politics.  The dominant religion can be codified into
law.  Theocracy is their goal.
 The drug war must be accelerated, even if not successful,
because it is the "moral" thing to do.  Tax benefits should be
targeted only to those in state-defined family structures.

 Tough on crime
 Always "tough on crime," the conservatives support warrantless
searches, telephone taps, limits to jury trials, etc.  If was the
Republicans, not the Democrats, who authored the country's first
asset forfeiture laws.
 And what of economic freedoms?  Well, in San Diego, where I
live, it is the Republicans who push for corporate welfare projects -
sports subsidies to overpaid athletes in the form of new stadiums;
free convention centers for the tourist industry; and so on.
 I was never a Democrat, and for the above reasons I left the
Republican Party some years ago.  Only the Libertarian Party
offers freedom.

About the Author:  Steve Green is Chairman of the San Diego
County Libertarian Party

The Democrats are the ones who will give you a loan. The
Republicans are the ones who will guarantee you a loan.
The Libertarians are the ones who will leave you alone.
-- Cal Ludeman

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[CTRL] Fwd: Coalition To End Media Bias

1999-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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FYI --
--

 Coalition to End Media Bias (CEMB)
 P. O. Box 564, Norman, Oklahoma 73069-0564
 (405) 579-9720FAX:  (405) 579-9405
 http://www.egroups.com/group/cemb/fullinfo.html


 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 Contact:Sharon Caliendo, [EMAIL PROTECTED], (405) 579-9720
 Andy C. Szul Jr, [EMAIL PROTECTED], (703) 823-6911

   'Coalition To End Media Bias' Formed To Help End Media Bias in U.S.
 All-Volunteer Effort Formed and Gains National Grassroots Support

 Norman, Oklahoma, October 5th, 1999 – A national all-volunteer grassroots coalition 
to end media bias in U.S. political news reporting has formed and is gaining 
momentum, says Sharon Caliendo, National Coordinator of the "Coalition to End Media 
Bias."

 "The 'Coalition To End Media Bias,' or CEMB, is an open forum on media bias that has 
been established strictly for purposes of national grassroots activation to end media 
bias and return fairness, ethics and truthful news reporting to the political 
process," says Caliendo.  "There is no other national all-volunteer non-partisan 
grassroots coalition or effort of its kind in existence and that makes the CEMB all 
the more unique in its mission."

 Formed in late 1999, CEMB has grown rapidly both online and across the country, 
coordinating State Field Directors nationwide who oversee local and state CEMB 
activities, ranging from placement of letters to the editor and op-eds, distribution 
of talking points, attending various informational meetings and overall tracking, 
gathering and reporting of media bias stories on a state-by-state basis.

 "One example of the CEMB's State Field Directors daily work is the tracking and 
distribution of media bias examples, both on the state and local levels," she 
explains. "When a Field Director of a particular state comes across an article that 
shows the media's blatant bias on a particular political or campaign issue, he then 
distributes the piece to any state or local contacts, as well as the national CEMB 
membership, and assists in putting together any relevant talking points, rebuttal 
letters to the editor and/or press releases for that area."

 In addition to tracking media bias nationwide, the CEMB plans to outreach and 
provide grassroots national support for any candidate running for state, local or 
national
 office who has been a target of media bias.

 Several examples of national, state and local media bias, relevant surveys and 
polls, listing of the CEMB's Steering Group members and the "Statement of 
Principles," membership information and other related material can be found online at 
the CEMB's home site, http://www.egroups.com/group/cemb/fullinfo.html.

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[CTRL] Space Based Weapons and White House Aims To Save Test Ban

1999-10-05 Thread David Crockett Williams

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Thanks Carol for this very important message regarding the redirection of
space based weapons research and development funding to peaceful purposes.
I agree with your sentiments of course, but wish to point out that space
based weapons apparently already exist as photographed from the space
shuttle in approx 1992 where live video feed since shown on network
television shows what analysts describe as the "rail gun" or "brilliant
pebbles" non-exploding high-speed projectiles being shot at UFO's in Earth's
atmosphere which easily dodged these projectiles accelerated on a magnetic
track reportedly powered by the military usurped n-Machine of Bruce DePalma
http://www.depalma.pair.com .I do not have url reference to the NASA
video feed in question but perhaps someone on a list this post reaches will
by now have such reference.   The date can be precisely determined because
after this incident NASA changed from live to delayed video feed on all
space shuttle missions to prevent such data from being repeated publicly.
Since the 1985 Congressional testimony of Dr. Yonas, chief scientist of SDI
"Star Wars" program where he requested funding for research and development
of several SDI "critical technologies" including the "homopolar generator"
(Michael Faraday's name for the rediscovered and shown overunity n-Machine),
space based weapons have reportedly been covertly developed and deployed.
This pity is that the new-energy technologies involved are the antidote to
ending the environmental poisoning of nuclear and fossil fuel power
technologies but these new-energy devices are being restricted to military
use by our government and its secrecy order reproduced on page 163-4 of
Jeane Manning's book about these technologies called The Coming Energy
Revolution.  (see exceprt below)

For some references to these new technologies see http://www.padrak.com/ine
and http://www.infinite-energy.com  including the available LENT devices
under development to neutralize radioactive materials.

David Crockett Williams
Global Emergency Alert Response
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000


-Original Message-
From: carol rosin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David Crockett Williams (by way of *STRIDER*) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: White House Aims To Save Test Ban


I am a former corporate manager of an aerospace company, a space and
missile
defense consultant, founder of the Institute for Security and Cooperation
in
Outer Space, and an activist who helped to start the movement to prevent
the
weaponization of space.

For many years, I've said that the US will never stop testing...until there
is a ban on space-based weapons.  That there will never be a CTB that will
survive.  I've said that the ABM Treaty will be broken.  Because these
test,
space-based weapons and other dangerous technologies are a necessary part
of
the US plan to seize the high ground...to point weapons down everyone's
throat "to control earth from space."

If you really want to stop nuclear testing and the furthering of nuclear
and
other dangerous technology research and development programs...call for a
verifiable ban on all space-based weapons...IMMEDIATELY.

Over $125 billion is now in the largest RD program in history...all aimed
at space-based weaponry.  Another $15 billion was just allotted a few weeks
ago.  In June, Clinton plans to announce his approval of DEPLOYMENT!

The game goes on.

However,  there is a way to end this madness once and for all!   All we
have
to do is to eliminate the space-based weapons RD, and take the money and
put it into expanding a non-weapons civilian, commercial and military space
program.

Yes, military space program, too. In space is where the transformation of
the military is taking place. There are no weapons in space. Yet, the
military has a great role to play.  And since the military is not going to
disappear, we have to give them something to do. Study what they are doing
in space...there are no weapons in their roles...yet.

Stop the same old peace/anti-nuke rehetoric. If we want change, we have to
change, too. In order to preserve the treaties we want, to prevent further
testing, etc.:

Call for:

1)  A worldwide ban on space-based weapons and

2)  A worldwide cooperative space program to be developed...without weapons
in space.

For further information, input or questions, contact Carol Rosin, 498
Manzanita Court, Ventura, CA. 93001.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: David Crockett Williams (by way of *STRIDER*)
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To: Select List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 5:20 PM
Subject: AP: White House Aims To Save Test Ban


From: "David Crockett Williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 13:44:48 -0700
Via:  Bay_Area_Activist list:
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[CTRL] BUSH DRUG WITNESSES TERRIFIED

1999-10-05 Thread Linda Minor

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http://www.nitronews.com/specials.html

BUSH DRUG WITNESSES TERRIFIED
EXPRESS FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES


Nitro News, bringing you the stories the big boys don't, was one of the few
media outlets to report the George W. Bush drug sting scandal.


According to former LAPD Narcotics Investigator Michael C. Ruppert, Bush Jr.
and brother Jeb flew into Tamiami Airport, near Miami, in 1985 to pick up
multiple kilos of cocaine from Barry Seal. Allegedly, the infamous drug
smuggler secretly filmed the entire pick-up.


Ruppert, still searching for the tape, shares our frustration at corporate
media: "[We] should not be able to compete with ABC, NBC, CBS, the Wall
Street Journal, the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time or any of the
other major media. Yet we do."


Editor of From The Wilderness, his own newsletter, Ruppert has appeared on
over 700 radio programs to spread the Bush shock story across America. But
the media still refuses to even investigate his claims.


Nitro News talked with one CNN production employee, hoping Ted Turner's news
tank is at least aware of the convincing report: "No, I've never heard
anything at all about it. I think we would have been all over it if we had."


In his September issue, Ruppert brings home the reality of the Bush
investigation: "I have spoken to other sources with limited knowledge of
these events and all of them have expressed direct and imminent fear for
their lives if they revealed any 'first-hand knowledge' of what happened.


"This story belongs to all of us. It is our nation that may be facing the
prospect of having a man elected as its leader who flew across state lines
and transported cocaine with the intent to distribute it. I think we all
have a stake in getting to the bottom of it."


Meanwhile, author Terry Reed has modified his statements about having been
present when the drug sting took place. But he still stands by his
bestselling book, which first exposed the incredible story.


(Editor's note - From The Wilderness is published monthly. Annual
subscriptions are $35 payable to FTW, P.O. Box 6061-350, Sherman Oaks, CA,
91413.)






MALIBU KEN'S BRITISH TOUR
LECTURES BEHIND CLOSED-DOORS


"Malibu Ken" Starr is evading the press in a low key visit to England, Nitro
News can reveal.


But the Sexgate sensation, famed for his nitty gritty investigation of
President Bill Clinton, couldn't resist the opportunity to lecture. It was a
closed-door event at Pepperdine University's London campus, with only
students and faculty invited. When one journalist tried to note the
proceedings, Starr wasn't amused: "This is all off the record."


However, one Nitro News spy slipped past the anti-hack hounds as the
question and answer session began. "The mostly Republican law students
steered well clear of controversial topics, preferring technical legal talk.


"But one young woman, referring to the President, said America's leaders
should always resign when their morals are questioned."


Starr firmly disagreed, saying Clinton's entire escapade with Monica
Lewinsky was not grounds for impeachment - It was only when the President
lied under oath that he had a case.


This week's lecture wasn't Starr's first association with Pepperdine. The
controversial lawyer was once offered a job as head of the school's Malibu,
California law department, but turned it down.






LITERARY TRANSVESTITE
CONTROVERSY OVER REAGAN BIOGRAPHY


Dutch: A Memoir Of Ronald Reagan hits America on Thursday. But will it be a
slap across the former President's face, or another knock-out triumph for
author Edmund Morris?


The biography, published by Random House, has ignited a sea of fire across
the networks, as powerhouse pundits and Reagan fans debate its controversial
content.


So what makes this page-turner so questionable? Morris has taken the classic
mold of a "biography" and turned it into pure fiction. In the book, he casts
himself as an imaginary character who has known Reagan for many years. The
fictional world and the narrator mold together only when Morris meets the
legend in real life.


The media has already steamrolled Dutch. Joyce Appleby, in Sunday's
Washington Post, lambasted the author's approach: "Fundamentally, Dutch
calls into question Morris's integrity. If he would, without acknowledgment,
create a fictional buddy for Reagan, what else might he do for literary
effect?"


Nitro News Columnist J. Walker Winslow was equally upset last night: "I am
at the same time bemused and appalled. Bemused at his audacity, and appalled
at the total disregard of certain journalistic standards. It strikes me that
Morris probably doesn't particularly care about what I think, with the extra
copies he will sell with this controversy. But by crossing genres, he has,
in my eyes, become a literary transvestite."


Morris, 

[CTRL] FW: (fwd,long.worthy) The Arrest of Dr. Hulda Clark: Destination Extinction

1999-10-05 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (fwd,long.worthy) The Arrest of Dr. Hulda Clark: Destination
Extinction


(Betty Martini's empassioned words about the system that has arrested Dr.
Hulda Clark)

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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:54:53 -0400
From: Betty Martini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Arrest of Dr. Hulda Clark:  Destination Extinction

World renowned  author, naturopathic doctor and research scientist Hulda
Regehr Clark, Ph.D., N.D. was arrested in San Diego on a fugitive warrant
from the State of Indiana,
9/20/99, charged with practicing medicine without a license.  Dr. Clark
received her doctorate from the University of Minnesota and went on to do
government funded research in biophysics and cell physiology at Indiana
University.  In l979 she began private consulting and became interested in
electronic techniques for scanning the human body.  By noting  the
pathogens and toxins cancer suffers have in common she speculated as to
the true cause of cancer.  She is most famous for her books "The Cure for
all Cancers", The Cure for HIV and AIDS" and "The Cure for All Diseases".
Her education and research has served a grateful nation, but the
undercover dictatorship got her jailed for it.,

Martin Niemoller said: "First the Nazis came for the Jews, but I was not a
Jew so I did not object.  Then they came for the Communists, but I was not
a Communist so I did not object.  Then they came for the Trade Unionists,
but I was not a Trade Unionist so I did not object.  Then they came for
me, and there was no one left to object."

Now America's Nazis have come for Dr. Hulda Regehr Clark, and I
object...fervently!

Many have been persecuted who have tried to help eradicate the scourge of
cancer from pioneer Royal Raymond Rife to Harry Hoxsey.  There is an
excellent video: The Quack Who Cured Cancer? about  Hoxsey's battle with
the AMA,  Hoxsey claimed  the AMA officials went after him because he
would not sell them his formula.  Hoxsey wanted all to have cancer cured
at an affordable rate, the reason he refused them the formula.  The FDA
shut him down. Today the Hoxsey Clinic flourishes in Tijuana.

Even medical doctors fear persecution for herbal remedies.  Doctors who
practice alternative medicine are not spared.  Many remember the FDA raid
of Dr. Jonathan Wright even with guns.  People paraded with signs like:
Dr. Wright made me well, FDA go to hell!  This was filmed in the video LET
TRUTH BE THE BIAS, The Presence of Alternative Medicine in America,
narrated by James Earl Jones.

THE PROBLEM!  Industry poisons consumers with carcinogens blessed by the
FDA.   James P. Carter, M.D. says in Racketeering in Medicine, The
Suppression of Alternatives: "The FDA serves as the pharmaceutical
industry's watchdog which can be called upon to attack and destroy a
potential competitor under the guise of protecting the public."

EXAMPLES:

ASPARTAME:  Marketed as NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc. in original
studies triggered brain, pancreatic, mammary, testicular, uterine and
ovarian tumors for starters.  An honest FDA toxicologist, the late Dr.
Adrian Gross told congress: " In view of these indications that the cancer
causing potential of aspartame is a matter that has been established
beyond any reasonable doubt, one can ask: What is the reason for the
apparent refusal by the FDA to invoke for this food additive the so-called
Delaney Amendment to the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act?... If the FDA itself
elects to violate the law, who is left to protect the health of the
public?"
  Congressional Record SID835:131 (August 1, l985)

The Delaney Amendment made it illegal to allow any residues of
carcinogenic chemicals in foods.  To prove those responsible to solve the
problem ARE the problem, the American Cancer Society, it's board stuffed
with chemical and pharmaceutical industry executives, actually opposed
this amendment. Finally the Delaney Amendment was repealed, removing the
obstacle to selling cancerchems for American tables.No matter, they'd
violated Delaney all along.

(2)  TAMOXIFEN:   AstraZeneca sells  a pro-hormone carcinogen to stop
cancer!   In talking to researcher, Dr. Trudy Bush, about my suspicions
that this had to target other organs, be pro-estrogen and a carcinogen she
said:  "I tried to tell them but they wouldn't listen!"  Zeneca wants all
women to take Tamoxifen their entire lives as a preventative.  They seek
the Holy Grail - the fantasy, the chimera, the dream of all drug pushers
through the ages:  to seduce entire populations into life-long dependence
on a drug 

[CTRL] FW: PRESS RELEASE: CHEMTRAIL PROTEST COALITION CAMPAIGN

1999-10-05 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 3:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PRESS RELEASE: CHEMTRAIL PROTEST COALITION CAMPAIGN



IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  CHEMTRAILS COALITION MOUNTING PROTEST CAMPAIGN - SEEK
CITIZEN SUPPORT
MARCH PLANNED NOVEMBER 20, 1999  TIMES SQUARE
September 29, 1999

Coalition to Protest Worldwide Aerial Spraying ("Chemtrails")
BOSTON, MA--A coalition including Will Thomas and other journalists,
researchers and citizens will protest the aerial spraying, commonly
called "chemtrails," over what appears to be all major populated areas of
the
United States, as well as parts of Europe and Australia. The demonstration
will be held in front of the New York Times building, at 209 West 43rd
St., Manhattan, NY on Saturday, November 20, 1999 from 12noon to 3pm, while
simultaneous protests are being held in Santa Fe, NM and Aspen, CO.

The coalition, led by writer/activist Andrew Amirault, includes:
--Clifford Carnicom, of the Chemtrail Crimes Documented web site
(http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm) Sign Petition on this site
--Alan Hutner, president of Skywatchers, a Santa Fe-based chemtrails
activist group
--David Peterson, Aspen, CO activist
--Chuck Shramek, currently news director for the two top-rated Houston
radio stations KBXX and KLOL (web site: http://www.neosoft.com/~cshramek/)
and one of the few voices in the media to speak out on the chemtrails issue
--Will Thomas, journalist/author/videographer, the recognized expert on
the chemtrails story, http://www.islandnet.com/~wilco/
--Chuck and Cathie Warren, of http://www.contrailconnection.com, the
largest chemtrails site on the Web.

 Beginning in February, 1999, a substantial body of factual evidence,
including numerous telephotos, has been accumulated that irrefutably
demonstrates extensive and sustained aircraft chemical/biological spraying
over
U.S. citizens. The photographic evidence can be examined at the web sites
above and is supported with testimony from countless observers across the
nation.
 Moreover, the above web sites are regularly monitored by a host of
upper
echelon defense contractors, military agencies, government institutions,
as well as chemical and health corporate interests.
 "This combined evidence reveals one of the most egregious infringements
upon human rights that has ever been committed," says Clifford Carnicom,
"and
it calls upon all citizens of the United States to orchestrate a massive
and aggressive protest against these crimes. It is the time for our action."
The protest will seek:
 1. That the spraying stop immediately.
 2. That Americans boycott the major media organizations and their
sponsors--particularly the major networks and newspapers--until they
fullyinvestigate this story and report their findings to the public.
 3. That President Bill Clinton admit this spraying and explain why and
assure Americans that it will never again resume.  As a result of his
knowledge and obvious approval, the only honorable  thing to do is to resign
as president of this nation, as he has utterly failed in his pledge to
"protect and defend" the citizens of this nation by
allowing these unconscionable human rights crimes to occur during his
tenure.
 "This is a classic cover-up by our government and the major media
organizations," says coalition organizer Amirault. "The spraying has
proven once again that lies and deception are the modus operandi of our
elected
officials, at all levels. Our government and media no longer have the
merest shred of credibility, with agendas that clearly run contrary to the
health and well-being of the people. That is called treason.
 "The issue is simple. Our government has used its citizens as lab rats
before; and they are doing it again --but this time on an unprecedented
scale. In the name of God, we are not going to allow it."
###
The Chemtrails Protest Coalition is a non-partisan ad hoc group with no
official affiliation to any political or religious organization.
# # #
Contact Andrew Amirault, [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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==
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screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters
and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
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Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.

Re: [CTRL] COALITION TO END MEDIA BIAS........WARNING

1999-10-05 Thread ASu2431426

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Now we need  a COALITION TO END CEMB BIAS.

I sent CEMB four posts as a TEST.

Guess what?

They posted two messages criticising Clinton.

They ignored two messages on Bush drug traffickingeven tho I offered
evidence.

Mike Ruppert (ex LAPD) says witnesses are being intimidated,  Best source of
informaton is  www  "Michael Ruppert"  THE WILDERNESS NEWSLETTER

.  .ASU

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Re: [CTRL] Risperdal anyone?

1999-10-05 Thread Carl Amedio

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As one who takes it I sure hope not. Seriously I have checked the web and not
found any unusual side effects.

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Re: [CTRL] COALITION TO END MEDIA BIAS........WARNING

1999-10-05 Thread Bill

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I too sent messages "Not in line" with their oh so slanted
way of thinking...was openly attacked by ignorant mind
controlled drones...they seem as if they are a paid
advertisement, freeform.

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 Now we need  a COALITION TO END CEMB BIAS.

 I sent CEMB four posts as a TEST.

 Guess what?

 They posted two messages criticising Clinton.

 They ignored two messages on Bush drug traffickingeven tho I offered
 evidence.

 Mike Ruppert (ex LAPD) says witnesses are being intimidated,  Best source of
 informaton is  www  "Michael Ruppert"  THE WILDERNESS NEWSLETTER

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Re: [CTRL] DEBT FORGIVENESS MEANS YOUR TAXES PAY OFF THE BIG BANKS

1999-10-05 Thread Bill

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Ever see the film where there is a suspension bridge, in
high wind?  First it very slightly starts to tremble, then
the dissonance feeds on itself until, in a relatively short
period, it literally explodes, pieces of concrete and pipe
and wire whipping through the air everywhere.
 Our economy is like that bridge.
 The first tremblings began with the removal of precious
metals from circulation...it has been heightened by
packaging scams and other hidden inflations in consumer
goods...there are MANY of those...and the best the masters
hoped was that it could go to 2000 so that the computers
could be blamed.  Magical nonaccountability.  Well it looks
like it is going to make it, but many of us now know who has
been behind every negative fluctuation in value and every
increase in taxation sinbce 1913, don't we?

Bard wrote:

 "(b) SENSE OF THE CONGRESS--It is the sense of the Congress that relief
 provided to countries in sub-Saharan Africa which qualify for the Heavily
 Indebted Poor Countries debt initiative should primarily be made through
 grants rather than through extended-term debt, and that interim relief or
 interim financing should be provided for eligible countries that establish a
 strong record of macroeconomic reform. ...

 "[Sec. 10b] ...In addition to continuing bilateral and multilateral economic
 and development assistance, the President shall target technical assistance
 toward-- ...(B) bring[ing] their legal regimes into compliance with the
 standards of the World Trade Organization in conjunction with membership in
 that Organization. ..."

 http://www.conservativeusa.org/vote-rec.htm

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[CTRL] Gov. Ventura, Hemp News

1999-10-05 Thread Dave

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 ARTICLE:  Governor Jesse Ventura Announces Hemp Seminar
  AUTHOR:  Governor Jesse Ventura, State Of Minnesota
DATE:  Tuesday, 5 October 1999, at 12:44 p.m.



With the continuing low prices for traditional commodities such as
corn and soybeans, Governor Ventura said the seminar and letter represent
another step toward the goal of providing profitable alternatives
to Minnesota's struggling agriculture community.


Pubdate: September 30, 1999 (St. Paul, MN) Governor Ventura today
announced that an informational seminar will be held on November 19,
1999, to teach individual farmers how to apply for a permit to grow
industrial hemp. The time and venue of the seminar will be announced
in the next two weeks.

The informational seminar is in response to legislation passed by
the 1999 Minnesota Legislature requiring the state to apply by September
30 for a federal permit to grow industrial hemp. The Drug Enforcement
Agency (DEA) recently informed Minnesota officials that a state cannot
apply for a general blanket permit. Rather, individual farmers must
apply directly to the DEA and the Minnesota Board of Pharmacy for
a permit to grow experimental plots of industrial hemp.

Minnesota Agriculture Commissioners Gene Hugoson and Trade and Economic
Development Commissioner Jerry Carlson will co-host the November 19
seminar, giving farmers tips on how to apply for the federal and state
permits they will need to grow experimental plots. They will also
discuss any special conditions DEA has set for lawful cultivation
of the crop.

The Governor also sent a letter to President Clinton today, in which
he explained the state's interest in industrial hemp production and
the need for federal cooperation in the matter. With the continuing
low prices for traditional commodities such as corn and soybeans,
Governor Ventura said the seminar and letter represent another step
toward the goal of providing profitable alternatives to Minnesota's
struggling agriculture community.

"Farmers are facing a lot of challenges right now, and it's our role
in state government to do what we can to give them the economic tools
they need to succeed,” Governor Ventura said. "We see industrial hemp
as another item they might want to add to their toolbox. It may not
be the answer for everyone, but it has potential as an alternative
to traditional crops.”

 Contact John Wodele: (651) 296-0001

   

 ARTICLE:  State Plans for Hemp Farming
  AUTHOR:  Conrad deFiebre, The Star Tribune, MN
DATE:  Tuesday, 5 October 1999, at 12:51 p.m.



"The policy has not been changed," Tom McCormick, head of the DEA’s
Minneapolis office, said Wednesday. "But we are seriously looking
at it right now. The decision will be coming out of Washington." It
could come in less than a year, he said.

Pubdate: September 30, 1999 Ventura seeks cooperation from resistant
DEA

Minnesota is moving ahead with efforts to allow its farmers to grow
industrial hemp, a close cousin of marijuana that proponents say could
offer an alternative crop with high potential.

Gov. Jesse Ventura is expected to write to federal drug authorities
today outlining his plan for implementing pro-hemp state legislation
enacted last spring.

His plan, however, calls for cooperation from the U.S. Drug Enforcement
Administration (DEA), which wields full authority over controlled
substances and has strongly opposed reviving the U.S. Hemp industry.

Meanwhile, fierce debate continues over whether hemp offers enough
commercial potential to justify the costly security controls likely
to be imposed on its cultivation.

Controls are in store because DEA officials and hemp enthusiast agree
on one thing: Food- and fiber-producing hemp and smokable marijuana
are nearly indistinguishable varieties of the same Cannabis plant,
differing only in their content of the psychoactive ingredient
tetrahyrocannabinol
(THC).

Ventura's letter is expected to propose that would-be hemp farmers
apply for permits through the state Board of Pharmacy and the DEA.
But the rules for commercial hemp cultivation in Minnesota would be
set by the DEA, which so far has had one simple rule: Don't do it.

"The policy has not been changed," Tom McCormick, head of the DEA's
Minneapolis office, said Wednesday. "But we are seriously looking
at it right now. The decision will be coming out of Washington." It
could come in less than a year, he said.

The government's review has been accelerated by growing interest in
hemp production. Pro-hemp laws were enacted this year in Minnesota,
Hawaii, Nebraska and North Dakota. North Dakota, in fact, is farther
along the hemp trail than Minnesota, having reclassified hemp as an
oilseed crop. It also has enacted provisions for growing and processing
hemp.

But even if the DEA 

[CTRL] MR PRESIDENT!

1999-10-05 Thread Nicky Molloy

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With a bit of luck Clinton will get so hot under the collar he'll confess
all before the American public.N

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F.U.D.
Tuesday October 5, 1999 at 14:30

MR. PRESIDENT! When Nancy Reagan was the first lady, she was vilified by the
liberal media for buying new china for the White House. To my knowledge,
that was her only "abuse" of taxpayer funds. Since you're so busy
apologizing for past sins and iniquities committed in this country 150 years
ago, such as slavery, what words of apology will you offer to Mrs. Reagan
for the insults hurled at her by the press because of her new dishes? How do
you explain the lack of media outrage over your wife's multi-million dollar
nongovernment-related trips -- which were paid for with taxpayer dollars?




Patricia
Tuesday October 5, 1999 at 14:21

MR. PRESIDENT! Which do you consider more dangerous to release: 14
terrorists convicted of involvement in domestic bombings that maimed and
killed innocent Americans, OR the files that supposedly support your
decision to do so?




Bob_B
Tuesday October 5, 1999 at 14:06

MR. PRESIDENT! What is the difference in giving a bribe directly to you, and
making a contribution to your "legal defense fund"?




Citizen A
Tuesday October 5, 1999 at 14:01

MR. PRESIDENT! A few years ago you explained that the we had to invade Haiti
was that the ordinary citizens there did not have guns to overthrow the
illegal and corrupt government. How do you justify the attack on gun
ownership by the people, that is guaranteed protection by the Second
Amendment of the U.S. Constitution?




gladstone
Tuesday October 5, 1999 at 13:56

MR. PRESIDENT! What was your relationship to former drug kingpin Dan
Lasater? Also, who do you think was responsible for the death of your former
chief of security, Jerry Parks?




Greg Burroughs
Tuesday October 5, 1999 at 13:39

MR. PRESIDENT! Gennifer Flowers -- the woman you repeatedly denied having an
affair with, an affair to which you recently admitted under oath -- now
insists that you are capable of ordering those individuals who pose a threat
to you to be murdered. Considering the claims of intimidation and threats
recounted by Kathleen Willey, Linda Tripp, and many 

[CTRL] Land of the Free, Home of the Brazen

1999-10-05 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Poney up them somolians ... five'll get you zip!  AER 


From www3.haaretz.co.il/eng/htmls/kat3_6.htm

{{Begin}}

Wednesday, October 6, 1999

The land of the free and the home of the brave
Yemen is still a largely ungovernable country run by tribal chiefs and corrupt
clerks

By Zvi Barel
In the weapons market in San'a, one can buy an original Soviet Kalashnikov for
$360, while an Israeli-made Uzi sells for $130. It is unclear how the Israeli
submachine guns made their way to Yemen, but if they can be found at every
other weapons market across the world, why not here, where any child who can
afford to trade in his sword for a gun does so without interference?.While
pistols and guns are sold at open stalls and stores, purchasing an armored
personnel carrier or anti-aircraft missile is slightly more complicated,
requiring a visit to the salesman's home so that he can demonstrate the
capabilities of his merchandise. The possession of arms, and if possible of a
small private army as well, seem to be an existential necessity in Yemen even
now, five years after the civil war has ended. This is despite the fact that
Yemen has adopted the accepted sign of democracy: direct elections for the
presidency.
In a recent article, Nasser Ta Mustafa, head of the Yemen Center for Strategic
Studies and a member of parliament from the Reform Party, explained the
realities of life in the country: "You can take a foreign tourist hostage and
haggle for a job, a project or money in return for his release. You can commit
a 'blood vengeance' murder in broad daylight in the center of the capital city.
You can approach a local or foreign investor and forcefully twist his arm into
making you his partner. You can write whatever you want in the newspaper. You
can even start your own newspaper and use it to threaten your rivals. You can
run for parliament without having even one of the necessary qualities and
demand any job you want in return for dropping out of the race. You can freely
shoot a traffic policeman merely because he gave you a ticket. You can do all
this without being accountable to anyone and without anyone judging you."
Yemen's president, Ali Abdullah Salah, who won 96.3 percent of the vote in the
elections held two weeks ago, has promised "to work to abolish the disarray in
the country and organize it as a state of law and order which will enjoy
prosperity, economic booming and equal opportunity for all." But Salah could
have promised anything after parliament prevented his rival from running in the
elections. Under Yemeni law, a candidate must win the support of at least 10
percent of parliament members in order to run for president. Since the
parliament is made up of tribal representatives, who know which side their
bread is buttered on, Salah can be confident that even if he does nothing in
the next five years but make sure that the tribal groups that support him
continue to enjoy their usual perks, he can continue to rule this country, one
of the poorest in the world, for at least another ten years.The division of
power in Yemen between tribal leaders and state institutions is not new. One
could even view the Yemeni regime as an example of the definition of democracy:
The state must serve its people, and if it fails to do so, it will be shot.
Literally. In Yemen, government representatives know exactly how far they can
venture, in geographic terms. Government representatives often need special
permits from tribal heads to pass through their territory. Police forces are
afraid to enter secluded areas, and when there is only one police station for
every 100,000 residents, it is fair to presume that it is not only the remote
regions that the police stay out of.
Agreements between officialdom and tribes are not always sufficient to prevent
the kidnapping of tourists, who receive full hospitality, tours and food from
their kidnappers, and are released only after the government has given in to
the kidnappers' demands. Sometimes it is a new jeep or an ambulance the tribe
wants, at other times it is a clinic, a school or a road.
Reporters receive their own special treatment. "The concept that journalism is
part of society, and its role is to protect democracy, is not yet accepted in
Yemen," a local journalist explains. "We only create the illusion of democracy.
If, for example, there is a murder or an explosion and you want to cover it,
you quickly discover that unless you have a foreign journalist at your side you
cannot obtain any official information. There are no press conferences, no
spokesmen and no one to even issue you a statement.
"You can gather information yourself, but then you must be very careful not to
uncover a defect which a government official is responsible for, because if you
do so you are in for a long harassment campaign. This begins with a seemingly
friendly phone call reminding you of the big favor the official did for one of
your family members, and if that is not enough to 

[CTRL] Unmarked tanker-type aircraft continue spraying sky-obscuring chemtrails over regions of the U.S. and Canada

1999-10-05 Thread Dave

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http://ens.lycos.com/ens/apr99/1999L-04-22-01.html

Sky Samples Analyzed

By William Thomas with Erminia Cassani

VICTORIA, British Columbia, Canada, April 22, 1999 (ENS) - As unmarked
tanker-type aircraft continue spraying sky-obscuring chemtrails over regions
of the U.S. and Canada, this writer and American journalist Erminia Cassani
have obtained laboratory tests of fully-documented samples of aerial
fallout. The samples were tested by a U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA) licensed facility.

The two samples were taken from aluminum-sided structures in separate states
nearly a year apart after their respective owners went outside in the wake
of low-flying aircraft to find dwellings and outbuildings splattered with a
brown, gel-like substance.


Vapor trails January 1999 (Photo courtesy W. Thomas)
Trained in the health sciences, Cassani carefully took samples from the
second incident which occurred at 2:00 pm on November 17, 1998. The samples
were taken from property directly under the flight approach path to
Thomasville airport, an old airport once used for commercial flights but now
used only for small planes. However, the woman whose house and property the
sample substance fell upon, observed that military aircraft have recently
been using this airport for "test runs" circling the immediate area and
returning to the Thomasville airfield. This facility is located a 45 minutes
drive from the Harrisburg International Airport in Pennsylvania.
Noting nearby military hangars filled with big helicopters, Cassani
videotaped a house splattered on all sides, as well as the driveway. The
reporter also interviewed a man living near the main runway who claimed that
a similar goo had hit his house the previous October.

Cassani became ill with flu-like symptoms and was sick for four days after
obtaining the sample. When a marine biologist at a nearby university started
working with the gel material, he too immediately developed upper
respiratory symptoms. The woman whose house had been struck also caught
the"flu." Two weeks before Christmas 1998 she suffered a heart attack.

Coliform tests by the state Department of Health were negative. But when the
university Ph.D. biologist turned his microscope to high power, he found the
glass slide teeming with a protozoan life form he said was "very resilient
to very cold temperatures."

The laboratory staff who eventually received our sample for a complete
analysis had never seen cell cultures bloom so fast. Cell cultures normally
take several days to grow; ours flowered into brilliant colors within 48
hours of being placed in petri dishes.

Exclaiming that, "It was all over the plate," the biologist who examined our
first sample wanted to know where we had obtained this "bio-hazard"
material.


Vapor trail dispersed by wind, January 1999(Photo courtesy W. Thomas)
No markers for jet fuel were evident. But the TNT and fuel-eating
Pseudomonas fluorescens found in our sky sample is listed in 163 Pentagon
patents for bioremediation.
Sometimes employed against oil spills, Pseudomonas fluorescens can consume
jet fuel as a primary food source. This bacteria can cause upper respiratory
illness and serious blood infections in humans.

Unlike P. flourescens, the streptomyces present in our sample is rarely
found in outdoor samples. Used to make several antibiotics, this fungus can
cause severe infections in humans.

Also isolated in our sample was a fluorescent-type of bacteria found in
distant coral reefs, which can be used as a "marker" in lab tests.

Another bacillus contained a "restriction enzyme" used in research
laboratories to "restrict" or cut DNA material for transfer to other
organisms. A computer search for this usually benign bacteria turned up
Streptomyces and P. flourescens on the same reference page - as well as the
American Type Tissue Culture Corporation. U.S. Senate documents show that
this Maryland company made at least 72 shipments of germ warfare cultures to
Saddam Hussein's scientists between October 1984 and October 1993.

Our second sample was obtained from the U.S. eastern seaboard after Cassani
tracked down a woman whose house, barn, cars, lawn and driveway were covered
by a similar brown gel on January 17, 1998. This homeowner noticed planes
making "tic-tac-toe clouds" and "weird designs" in the sky before the goo
fell - possibly from clogged spray nozzles.

She had been at church while neighbors watched a large aircraft circling so
low it rattled windows and almost hit a barn, before climbing toward a
disused commercial airfield recently renovated for military flights. When
the homeowner took a scraping into the local lab, she was told of similar
incidents in the vicinity.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) dismissed the substance - which
resisted power-washing and months of weathering - as "corn meal."


Vapor trails over northwest Arkansas 

[CTRL] FW: Rachel #670: Hazardous Materials Policies

1999-10-05 Thread Dave

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HAZARDOUS MATERIALS POLICY

A "sustainable" activity is one that you believe you can
continue indefinitely into the future. Or at least for seven
generations (roughly 200 years).[1]

As we saw last week, leading scientific societies say that the
future promises irreversible environmental degradation and
continued poverty for much of the world unless we control human
population and change patterns of human activity. "The future of
our planet is in the balance," said a 1992 statement issued
jointly by the Royal Society of London and the U.S. National
Academy of Sciences. (See REHW #669.) "The next 30 years may be
crucial," these scientific societies said 7 years ago.

It is particularly important that the so-called "developed"
countries change their ways. As the 1992 joint statement said,
"Developed countries, with 85 percent of the world's gross
national product and 23 percent of its population, account for
the majority of mineral and fossil-fuel consumption. One issue
alone, the increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide, has the
potential for altering global climate with significant
consequences for all countries. The prosperity and technology of
the developed countries, however, give them the greater
possibilities and the greater responsibility for addressing
environmental problems."

What kinds of changes are needed? A group of Swedish scientists
has described 4 conditions that are essential for sustainable
use of the Earth. A worldwide movement, called The Natural Step,
is promoting these four conditions, especially among business
organizations.[1] The four "system conditions" necessary for
sustainability are stated succinctly, so it is worth repeating
them, then adding some flesh to the bare bones:

(1) Substances mined from the Earth's crust must not
systematically increase in air, water, soil, or living things.
This means that fossil fuels and metals must not be produced at
a faster pace than their slow redeposit and reintegration into
the Earth's crust;

(2) Substances created by humans must not systematically
increase in air, water, soil, or living things. This means that
substances must not be produced at a faster pace than they can
be broken down and integrated back into the cycles of nature;

(3) The physical basis for productivity and diversity of nature
must not be systematically diminished. This means that we cannot
harvest or manipulate ecosystems in such a way that their
productivity and diversity are systematically diminished.

(4) There must be a fair and efficient use of resources in
meeting human needs. This means that basic human needs must be
met efficiently, effectively, and fairly; it also means that the
satisfaction of basic human needs must take precedence over the
provision of luxuries.[1]

As we said in REHW #668, we consider condition #4 the most
important for two reasons: (1) unfair distribution of resources
is morally wrong; and (2) if we can't achieve a fair distribution
of resources, we will remain mired in conflict, unable to
organize ourselves effectively to achieve the first 3 system
conditions.  All will be lost.  More on condition #4 at a later
time.

The first two Natural Step "system conditions" are not difficult
to understand. They require humans (1) to refrain from pulling
materials like 

[CTRL] Federal Judge's ruling shuts down timber sales on 110,000 acres of U.S. National Forests

1999-10-05 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

Judge Buzzcuts Timber Sales on American Forests
http://ens.lycos.com/ens/oct99/1999L-10-05-02.html
BENTON, Illinois, October 5, 1999 (ENS) - A small grassroots environmental
group has won a court ruling that shuts down timber sales on an estimated
110,000 acres of U.S. National Forests across the country. This is the first
time a federal judge has issued an injunction on the entire National Forest
system.

Chief Judge J. Phil Gilbert of the Federal District Court for the Southern
District of Illinois ruled September 29 that the U.S. Forest Service acted
illegally in allowing timber sales under a loophole known as the
"categorical exclusion." Timber sales under a given size were not subject to
the provisions of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA).

The case was brought by Heartwood, a Bloomington, Indiana based regional
forest protection network and two self-taught forest experts, Jim Bensman
and Mark Donham. They claimed that the Forest Service illegally excluded
timber sales the environmental requirements of NEPA.


Clearcuts on Green Mountain National Forest, Vermont (Photo courtesy Sierra
Club)
All Forest Service timber sales issued under categorical exclusions have
been halted by the Court if dated after since September 16, 1998, the date
the lawsuit was filed by Heartwood.
Judge Gilbert called the use of categorical exclusions to avoid the NEPA
regulations, "...a classic example of an arbitrary decision ... especially
in light of the overwhelming opposition from both federal and state sources
as well as the general public."

Since the Forest Service used categorical exclusions not just locally, but
nationwide, Judge Gilbert specifically ruled that "any remedy ordered must
also be national in scope."

"The Court believes that the continued application of this unlawful
Categorical Exclusion does pose a potential danger both to the environment
and to public health," the ruling states.

"The judge's ruling confirms what we have been saying all along," said Andy
Mahler, director of Heartwood. "The U.S. Forest Service has engaged in a
pattern of illegal activity designed to increase logging, regardless of
environmental damage, public opposition, and applicable law. These sales are
just the tip of the iceberg. The entire timber sale program is illegal and
should be stopped."


Clearcut in Maine (Photo courtesy Wilderness Society)
The exclusions were based on the size of the timber sales approved under
them. "Timber harvest which removes 250,000 board feet or less of
merchantable wood products or salvage which removes 1,000,000 board feet or
less of merchantable wood products; which requires one mile or less of low
standard road construction; and assures regeneration of harvested or
salvaged areas, where required," were excluded.
The Forest Service (FS) chopped up the timber sale areas into parcels that
would fit this definition and offered them for sale without the necessity of
meeting the NEPA regulations. The court found that the Forest Service had
failed to explain in the record the volume limits for the timber sale
categorical exclusion.

The court stated, "In sum, the Court finds that the FS failed to adequately
consider an important aspect of the issues involved, offered little
explanation for its decision and failed to provide adequate evidence and
support for its decision to greatly increase the volume limit and implement
the proposed timber harvest CE [Categorical Exclusion]. Therefore, the Court
finds the FS' decision arbitrary and capricious and DECLARES the timber
harvest CE NULL AND VOID. The timber sale CE is invalid under NEPA and
should be set aside. "

Forest Service Associate Chief for Natural Resources, Hilda Diaz-Soltero,
has sent out a notice to all Regional Foresters to immediately cease
granting timber sales and to stop the cutting on those now in progress.


Logging for a chip mill near Annapolis, Missouri (Photo by Tom Kruzen
courtesy Missouri Audubon Council)
No further timber sale advertisements, awards or other authorizing decisions
may be issued relying on categorical exclusions, Diaz-Soltero wrote. All
ongoing timber sale contracts, permits, or other authorizations resulting
from project decisions issued on or after September 16, 1998 that relied
categorical exclusions must be immediately suspended.
"You should work with the contract or permit holder to take steps necessary
to affect an orderly shutdown of the contract or permit activity, addressing
affects such as erosion and sedimentation, Diaz-Soltero instructed.

At this point no one appears to know exactly how much land and how many
timber sales across the country are affected by the ruling, but that
information will soon be a matter of public record. By October 8, each
region must submit to the director of forest management a list of timber
sale projects subject to the ruling.

The case is a dramatic example of David