Re: [CTRL] I have to ask this

2000-08-18 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >less >pronounced...or so I've heard... People tell me that depends on how much you drink. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwe

[CTRL] News not on TV

2000-08-18 Thread nessie
http://sacco.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=2393 http://la.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=2417 Don't just read about it, watch the video. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propag

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] I have to ask this

2000-08-19 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >It should be noted that the unprocessed leaves of the coca plant are >nowhere >near as potent in their effect that the refined extract called cocaine. People have been chewing coca leaves since the ice age. It has never been shown to have done any of them any

[CTRL] on a lighter note . . .

2000-08-19 Thread nessie
The Y2K Police simulator: http://www.newgrounds.com/police/bike.html http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid ma

Re: [CTRL] Al Gore, will fight for your rights, Bush will end them.

2000-08-20 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >We will vote for any third party that makes it to the ballot. No matter who you vote for, government wins. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic sc

Re: [CTRL] Analysis of wealth distribution

2000-08-20 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Imagine how much better off those nations would be if the distribution of >wealth and income were broadened into a much larger middle class. Imagine how much better still it would be if the distribution of wealth (and, more importantly, of power) those nati

Re: [CTRL] Birdies

2000-08-20 Thread nessie
>I know it is very painful to not believed but we both know that is nothing new. Dont let that old pain silence you now. I want to hear your information, as do others here. That pain will never go away until you no longer care whether you are believed or not. The fact of life is that no matter w

Re: [CTRL] The Color Yellow ... was Birdies

2000-08-20 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >There are many eyewitnesses to this torture. How are we to tell them from the liars? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.

Re: [CTRL] The Color Yellow ... was Birdies

2000-08-21 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I guess I dont really understand why anyone >would want to lie about be raped and shocked >and beaten. There are a number of possible reasons. Just because you wouldn't want to lie about being raped and shocked and beaten doesn't mean everyone wouldn't wan

Re: [CTRL] nessie-- The Color Yellow ... was Birdies

2000-08-21 Thread nessie
>thanks for your comments. Yes i do agree with your comments on predation. (snip) >Trust is a complex issue but for me there are huge differences between believing that someone is a survivor of experimentation, being friends with them, sharing my own personal information, or inviting them to my

Re: [CTRL] Reply to Ynr Chyldz Wyld and proof

2000-08-21 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > How can you say that there >has to be proof??? Let me put it this way: If somebody posts a message to this list that says that Birdie4 is a liar, should we believe them just because they said it or should we make them prove it first? http://www.ctrl.org/

Re: [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

2000-08-21 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > eventual imposition of a One >World (paganistic) Religion under the United Nations. What an absurdity! There is not a single religion in all of history whose followers have been able to impose it on the whole world, not even Christianity and Islam, whose fo

Re: [CTRL] [prj] Re(2): [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

2000-08-22 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > >And by the way, it was the Roman Catholic Church in particular - and not >Christianity as a whole - that has attempted world conquest. Christianity did not attempt to conquer the world. It is important to avoid confusing the religion with its practitioner

[CTRL] WNV vaccine

2000-08-22 Thread nessie
[Please Forward Widely] "Every Child and Senior to Take West Nile Vaccine" by Robert Lederman "Federal health officials say they will recommend that anyone in the high-risk group - children and the elderly - take the vaccine." Biotech Company Takes Shot at Vaccine-Daily News 8/21/2000 entire arti

[CTRL] A day late

2000-08-22 Thread nessie
The SFBG copy department finally got my column for this week up on the site: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/25.html http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screed

Re: [CTRL] OT: ST: Prehistoric Man Were Communists

2000-08-22 Thread nessie
respect each other's territory. And need I mention the ants? Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution is available from http://www/akpress.org Tell 'em nessie sent ya. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational e

Re: [CTRL] [prj] Re(2): [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

2000-08-22 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >The Book of Revelations says this world >takeover >is the point of the One World Religion - and the One World >Economy . > The idea is to draw a line, either one is for Christ or against >him. That's one religion's view. There are many religions, each w

[CTRL] Mosquito problems nothing new

2000-08-22 Thread nessie
"Fort Detrick scientists discovered a Trinidadian who had been infected with yellow fever in 1954 and had later recovered. They took serum from the Trinidadian and injected it into monkeys. From the monkeys they removed infected plasma, into which they dropped mosquito larvae. The infected mosquit

[CTRL] The anarchist formerly known as Prince

2000-08-22 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > Kropotkin is too often overlooked as a political philosopher. And as a scientist in general. He was the Einstien of his age. In the late 1800s, if you asked a guy in the street to name a scientist, he probably would have said, "Kropotkin." That's how famo

Re: [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

2000-08-23 Thread nessie
> >the lamb speaks to the vickar "The Lord is my shepard." What's that make me? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These

Re: [CTRL] Sv: Re: [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

2000-08-23 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >How come you need a shepard? I don't. > >Will you not follow the flock? A flock, by definition, is being led to one of two places, to be fleeced or to be slaughtered. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a disc

[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Blackplanet.com bans woman named "Babcock" for foul last name

2000-08-23 Thread nessie
http://www.dfn.org/Voices/Americas/usa/blackplanet.htm > DIGITAL FREEDOM NETWORK > MEDIA RELEASE: For immediate release > Contact: Bobson Wong (201-928-4378, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Alan Brown > (201-928-4365, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > WEB SITE

[CTRL] Fwd: DENDRITE: Stop Forced Electroshock of Kathleen Garrett!

2000-08-23 Thread nessie
www.MindFreedom.org DENDRITE -- August 23, 2000 COPY & POST to appropriate places on & off Internet: ALERT: human rights & "mental health system." A free project of Support Coalition International. http://www.MindFreedom.org email:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: Blackplanet.com bans woman named "Babcock" for foul last

2000-08-24 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >So the kids have to get off the puter if I >have to leave the room. At 7 & 5, they are too young to be >unsupervised. Try this. Leave them on the computer unsupervised, but not on the internet. Password the software you use to log onto your ISP. Log off w

Re: [CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Alternative Radio: Selected Program Summ

2000-08-24 Thread nessie
This looks like it might be interesting. Please resend it as plain text so it is readable. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!

Re: [CTRL] Fw: How Long Will Current Movements Rise??

2000-08-24 Thread nessie
Yeah. Right. Sure. And, as previously pointed out on CTRL, the anarchists of Eugene owe their existence to the Russian Woodpecker. And, as the Kerner Commission concluded, the uprisings of the Sixties were due to mental illness. This is a bunch of superstitious nonsense. I have a different theory

Re: [CTRL] [prj] Re(2): [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

2000-08-24 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Insofar as world conquest is concerned, there is a distinction to be >made between a Church in the service of the State (the Anglicans) and >states in the service of the Church as was the case of the Vatican's >Inquisition. That is ludicrous. If a bunch o

[CTRL] Fwd: DENDRITE: Public ZAPS BACK at Forced Electroshock! Victory!

2000-08-24 Thread nessie
www.MindFreedom.org DENDRITE -- August 24, 2000 COPY & POST to appropriate places on & off Internet: UPDATE: human rights & "mental health system." A free project of Support Coalition International. http://www.MindFreedom.org email:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~

Re: [CTRL] Don't be fooled again.

2000-08-24 Thread nessie
http://www.sfbg.com/News/34/47/47wvkoso.html http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy the

Re: [CTRL] Fw: How Long Will Current Movements Rise??

2000-08-24 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >You go girl!!! Actually, I'm a guy. It's a mixed blessing, but I seem to be making the best of it. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screed

Re: [CTRL] No Mention: Classified Material Gone?

2000-08-25 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >And wasn't it convenient that a U.S. Navy carrier task group just >*happened* to >be in port when this "accident" took place? They are at war in the area, blockading Iraq, at the cost (so far) of a half a million Iraqis, almost all of them women and children

Re: [CTRL] A B A L K A N E N C O U N T E R: The Elders of Zion

2000-08-25 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >The Paranoid Personality Disorder Key words: > " >without sufficient basis " " > unjustified doubts " > " > without justification " > It is often not possible to determine sufficiency and justification until after the fact. The main thing about paranoia

Re: [CTRL] A B A L K A N E N C O U N T E R: The Elders of Zion

2000-08-25 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I'm not buying into the Elders of Zion crap, of course. Me either. It was a czarist fraud. > > But in my own >experience, sometimes a healthy sense of paranoia is a decided survival >trait, >not least in the corporate world. Paranoia is not mental illne

Re: [CTRL] rods

2000-08-26 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > the flying tooth is a classic. If you squint, you can see the Tooth Fairy. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substan

Re: [CTRL] Some day, you may have to EAT THE RICH.

2000-08-26 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >GOOD! Now, gimme mine back! Wouldn't it make more sense to buy down the debt, now, while times are good? Good times don't last. Capitalism is enherently cyclical. Of course I personally favor abolishing the whole money system, but short of that, doesn't f

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: Blackplanet.com bans woman named

2000-08-26 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >How do you explain what pornography is, to a 5 year old who has no >inkling that it even exists? I told my kid that people have sex, that's how he got here, it's perfectly natural, and it's no big deal. He turned out fine. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.o

Re: [CTRL] Endless bullshit from

2000-08-27 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >I >n a welfare state, where the government steals from the productive and >gives to the lazy, the >indolent, and the anti-social, In a capitalist economy the lazy, indolent, parasitic rich leech off the ordinary workers (like you and me) who do the actual p

Re: [CTRL] Alex Constantine v. David Horowitz

2000-08-27 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Hitler only killed 10 million, Hitler's troops killed a bare minimum of 20 million Russians. They Russians say it may have as high as fifty million. Another thirteen million people died in the Lager system alone. This doesn't excuse the depredations of Sta

[CTRL] DOD publications - where to get some of them (fwd)

2000-08-28 Thread nessie
A friend of mine is a rare book dealer. He just forwarded me this from a list he subs to. It looks useful. Check it out. * >>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:23:20 EDT >>Subject: [BI] DOD publications - where to get some of them, and other >good >>stuff >> >>I have provided belo

[CTRL] Mitretek Systems

2000-08-28 Thread nessie
it's one of those days. here's yet another hot tip that showed up in my box this morning: *** Forwarded message from Dave Hartley Found what very much looks like a HUGE, humongous, high-tech "cutout." An infowar octopus, whose tentacles support the medicalization of the popula

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Report: Violent Entertainment Aimed At Young

2000-08-28 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >And people wonder why we have >gangs, school shootings, and 13 year olds having babies, not to mention >a total lack of civility in our society. Thirteen year olds have been having babies since cave days. The prolonged adolescence that Americans take for gr

Re: [CTRL] Wormwood

2000-08-28 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Greetings, > >My first post. > >Question : Does Wormwood in Revelations equate to >Bitterroot National Forest? You should ask this on a list where it's on topic. This list is not about the interpretation of scripture. This list is about conspiracy theory. Th

Re: [CTRL] Alex Constantine v. David Horowitz

2000-08-28 Thread nessie
ovement. For a brief period, Nazis held state power. They do not at present hold state power anywhere on earth, at least not overtly. They are still a major world power, though, in some ways more powerful now than ever. See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/company.html Bolshevism is specifically inte

Re: [CTRL] : THE PEOPLE VS LARRY FLYNT: A FEMINIST CRITIQUE AND

2000-08-29 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >To this day Flynt is being pushed off as a martyer; when Larry McDonald went down on the 007 Flynt made a joke out of it, but by that time Flynt was in a wheelchair. The February 1984 issue of Hustler, on pages 112-119, published a series of surreptitiously tak

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Report: Violent Entertainment Aimed At Young

2000-08-31 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > >ANYONE who does not >want to live in the ghetto or be known as from the ghetto has the >opportunity to rise above and escape. Not children. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational excha

Re: [CTRL] Give up guns, or go to war? What do you think?

2000-09-01 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >And who do you think would win Einstein? Count heads. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—ple

Re: [CTRL] Give up guns, or go to war? What do you think?

2000-09-02 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >VERY FEW PEOPLE OWN GUNS. Eighty million is a conservative estimate. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] Woman protests restroom arrest

2000-09-02 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I guess we know where police brutality gets its beginnings. Police are brutal (and corrupt) because the rest of us permit it. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Prosely

Re: [CTRL] Woman protests restroom arrest

2000-09-02 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >How do you suggest we proceed to stop police brutality? By creating a society in which there is no division between civilians, military and police because all three are subsumed by the citizen's militia. Yeah, I know, easier said than done. But what's e our

Re: [CTRL] Give up guns, or go to war? What do you think?

2000-09-03 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Whose conservative estimate? The NRA's? Mine. It is, admittedly, a difficult thing to estimate. Gun ownership is a lot like sex and drugs. Some people lie about it. Even more simply omit the truth, or part of the truth. So it's impossible to get an absolute

Re: [CTRL] Woman protests restroom arrest

2000-09-03 Thread nessie
> > Peace does have to come from >within each person. >P eace does not come from within every single person. Even in totally egalitarian societies where neither status nor poverty nor prohabition exist to motivate predation, still, there are born into every generation a tiny handful of psycho

Re: [CTRL] Crowley biography

2000-09-03 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >It's one of the most entertaining and readable biographies I've read. That doesn't make it a good biography. What makes a biography good is accuracy. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informationa

Re: [CTRL] School bans Boy Scouts recruitment

2000-09-03 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I don't mind gays, but why do I have to >hear about it all the time? For the same reason that gays have to hear about the heterosexual lifestyle all the time. It's part of life. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL i

[CTRL] The same few people still own the country

2000-09-03 Thread nessie
The same few people still own the country By ROD WATSON 8/31/00 OK, they're going to humor us again next week. Sure, they're giving us Monday off. But the lakes will be too crowded to fish. And besides, we really shouldn't be bought of

Re: [CTRL] Andrew D Basiago's phone call - 9/4/00

2000-09-04 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Que? Who cares, but let us all keep an eye out. Immediately call the police and file a complaint. Get a restraining order against this guy. That way you'll save a lot of money on your legal defense if he actually comes to your house later and you have to s

[CTRL] Justice not likely to prosecute in King killing

2000-09-05 Thread nessie
http://www.foxnews.com/news/national/1209/d_ap_1209_331.sml Justice not likely to prosecute in King killing 11.55 a.m. ET (1707 GMT) December 9, 1999 By Michael J. Sniffen, Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Although a civil jury has concluded there was a conspiracy to kill the Rev. Martin Lu

Re: [CTRL] Nazi-Era Victims Demand US Documents On Vatican

2000-09-05 Thread nessie
See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/26.html http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and &#

Re: [CTRL] Nazi-Era Victims Demand US Documents On Vatican

2000-09-05 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Beautiful article Nessie Thanks. I try. It's an important case. I'll be following it closely. There is no way to understand what is happening in the Balkans today without factoring in the Ustashi and their friends in the Vatican. Th

Re: [CTRL] So it has finally come to this.

2000-09-06 Thread nessie
Do we have any reasons to believe this story is true? What are they? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid mat

[CTRL] Should we trust medical journals?

2000-09-06 Thread nessie
I don't think so. For details, see: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/09/06/MN107563.DTL http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcom

[CTRL] Fwd: [AFIB] The Earth First! Bombing ... Ten Years On

2000-09-06 Thread nessie
___ ANTIFA INFO-BULLETIN News * Analysis * Research * Action ___ SPECIAL EDITION - September 6, 2000 - * * * __ THE EARTH FIRST! BOMBING ... TEN YEARS ON Updates

Re: [CTRL] DEAD MAN RADIOACTIVE

2000-08-05 Thread nessie
nessie writes: >Speaking of radiometers, check out: > > http://www.wps.com/archives/radiacs/index.html FWIW, Tom Jennings of WPS.com is the same Tom Jennings who wrote FIDOnet. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discu

Re: [CTRL] [MC] Fwd: [CTRL] Gunderson

2000-08-12 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Both Terry Reed and DeCamp and Colby, >Decamps main backer, all had ties. which are? > >Gene Wheaton has been shown to be a >mis/dis info specialist-and with possible ties to "wet" actions. By whom? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DIS

[CTRL] rods

2000-08-25 Thread nessie
http://www.amsky.com/0300/rods/rods.html http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'

[CTRL] CSIS report on Anti-Globalism

2000-08-25 Thread nessie
http://www.csis-scrs.gc.ca/eng/miscdocs/28e.html http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspi

Re: [CTRL] No Right to Bare Arms (Supreme Court)

2000-09-07 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > >that the >second amendement is an INDIVIDUAL right, and that this right as >established by the court Aside from whether or not the courts or the Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms, the arms themselves guarantee the right to bear arms. Any

Re: [CTRL] UK whites to be minority by 2100

2000-09-07 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >mongrelization Hybrid vigor http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid mat

Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

2000-09-08 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Also, if it was important for her to be sacrificed on Aug 31st then >how could they have guaranteed this? The crash happened minutes after >midnight - pure chance yet again. They could have left The Ritz at any >given >time during the evening. A car could h

Re: [CTRL] Black Market Bones

2000-09-08 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >It is much easier to control heroin addicts than >potheads. It's easier to control the supply of heroin, and hence the profits, from heroin. Poppies take up a lot of space. One or two pot plants can supply a whole family all year. > >And the withdrawal is

[CTRL] programmer digs up the truth behind atrocities

2000-09-08 Thread nessie
http://www.salon.com/tech/col/garf/2000/09/08/patrick_ball/print.html Mining data on mutilations, beatings, murders A computer programmer digs up the truth behind atrocities in El Salvador, Kosovo and other troubled locales. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Simson Garfinkel Sep. 08, 2000 | "This wou

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Oliver Stone to make movie about Smedley Butler

2000-07-30 Thread nessie
> >He is basing it partly on William >Corson and Joseph Trento's book, "The Last President," due out in 2002. A better source is: The Plot To Steal The White House by Jules Archer. The cover up is discussed in: Facts and Fascism by George Seldes. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION &

[CTRL] Antiwar.com Hacked

2000-07-31 Thread nessie
>>Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:38:38 -0500 >>From: "Antiwar.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Antiwar-Daily: Antiwar.com Hacked >> >>Dear Friends, >> >>I regret to inform you that last night (Saturday night) someone unknown >>hacked into the main server for Antiwar.com and wiped out all file

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Things Are Not What They Appear

2000-08-01 Thread nessie
> > For me, people who are for drug legalization are CIA. This is patently absurd. Legalization will take the profits out of CIA hands. That's why they oppose it. > > >Furthermore, there is a fundamental issue involved here. Precisely. The fundamental issue is who owns your body, you or th

Re: [CTRL] Fw: FBI "Anti Terrorist" arrests of activists: charges dismissed

2000-08-01 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >According to the police report, they >were tipped off by employees of the plumbing supply store (where the >articles in question had been purchased). This sounds more like something that would happen in Soviet Russia or in Orwell's Airstrip One, than some

Re: [CTRL] UNDERNEWS Aug 1, 2000

2000-08-01 Thread nessie
> >According to one curious citizen, the word has "gravitas" >appeared 210 times in Lexis-Nexis in the past week. 189 (90%) of >the mentions also contain "cheney or elect* or vice pres*" within >the article. Newspeak http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL

Re: [CTRL] DEAD MAN RADIOACTIVE

2000-08-02 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >if the radioactivity was confined to the interior of the dead man's body >then no alarms would have sounded... That's absurd. If radiation didn't penetrate flesh, then it wouldn't be a problem, now would it? Speaking of radiometers, check out: http:

Re: [CTRL] Mad cow disease can't be ruled out in U.S., Canada,EU says

2000-08-03 Thread nessie
> >The reference is > > >http://www.independent.ie/2000/215/d06a.shtml Oh, really? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! The

[CTRL] Big Browser

2000-08-03 Thread nessie
http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47_STO47928,00.html Microsoft in hot pursuit of software pirates By ANNA SCOTT, IDG NEWS SERVICE (August 02, 2000) In the past eight weeks, Microsoft Corp. has ordered 7,500 Web sites and Internet auctions to stop selling counterfeit Microsoft soft

Re: [CTRL] Catholic church settles with alleged molestation victim

2000-08-03 Thread nessie
> >The Franciscan Friars of California has >agreed to pay $1.7 million That's the least of their problems. Check this out: http://www.vaticanbankclaims.com http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselyt

[CTRL] Freedom of assembly

2000-08-03 Thread nessie
>From Znet Thursday, August 2 - Report from Philadelphia By Leslie Cagan Well, actually, I'm no longer in Philadelphia. Even though I left e

[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Republican convention update and protest photographs

2000-08-04 Thread nessie
I have been on the streets of Philadelphia following the protests and arrests: http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/gop-convention-protests.html John Young has posted the FEMA GOP Convention emergency response plan (unfortunately, missing some attachments): http://216.167.120.50/rnc2000-frp.htm I wrot

[CTRL] Fwd: Message ("The distribution of your message dated Fri, 04...")

2000-08-04 Thread nessie
>>The distribution of your message dated Fri, 04 Aug 2000 15:11:35 -0700 with subject "Halliburton's mobsters" has been postponed because the daily message limit for the CTRL list (100) has been exceeded. No action is required from you; your message will be reprocessed automatically o

[CTRL] Hacking Burma

2000-08-04 Thread nessie
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/12367.html Hacktivists own Myanmar govt. site By: Thomas C Greene in Washington Posted: 03/08/2000 at 19:27 GMT Engineers were still trying on Thursday to restore control of the Myanmar (Burma) government Web site after hacktivists brought it down, the Asso

[CTRL] Halliburton's mobsters

2000-08-04 Thread nessie
http://www.public-i.org/story_01_080200.htm Cheney Led Halliburton To Feast at Federal Trough State Department Questioned Deal With Firm Linked to Russian Mob By Knut Royce and Nathaniel Heller (Washington, August 2) Under the guidance of Richard Cheney, a get-the-government-out-of-my-face cons

[CTRL] Intel/Hadron/PROMIS

2000-08-04 Thread nessie
[Hadron was Earl Brian's company, part of the PROMIS scheme, remember?] http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/12374.html Intel files suit against Hadron By: Mike Magee Posted: 04/08/2000 at 10:25 GMT The Intel Corporation has filed a trademark case against Hadron Inc, a firm which provides inf

Re: [CTRL] General Observations

2000-08-05 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >If you don't want >someone to spit on you, don't spit on them. Yeah, right. Like that's gonna stop 'em. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic scr

Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse

2000-08-06 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >The Master Plan IS the bible Jews say it is the Torah. Muslims say it is the Koran. Hindus say it is the Bahgavagita. Buddhists say it is the Pali Sutras. Biologists say it is Origin of Species. Communists say it is Das Kapital. They can't all be right. Wh

Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse

2000-08-06 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >England or Australia . . . >have given up >their guns and made themselves defenseless against their government? And against criminals. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange li

Re: [CTRL] DEAD MAN RADIOACTIVE

2000-08-06 Thread nessie
>I have been trying to get the information on this case from the web sight and cannot do it. Any suggestions? It's not on that website. That website has radiation testing equipment. Frankly, I don't where to find out the truth behind this story short of doing on site, in person, gum shoe work

Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse

2000-08-06 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >> There can only be one version of the truth. Is light a wave or a particle? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanc

[CTRL] Fwd: (en) US, Hidden Terror in the City of Brotherly Love (Philadelphia)

2000-08-07 Thread nessie
A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C E http://www.ainfos.ca/ >> From: B-C Greens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> http://www.freespeech.org A young man handcuffed crucifixion style to a c

Re: [CTRL] OEN 8/6/00

2000-08-07 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I would rather give it to >charity than to the corporate parasites out there. Why not give the money to the artists themselves? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Prosel

Re: [CTRL] George W. Bush's Theme Song this November

2000-08-07 Thread nessie
No matter who you vote for, the same men will still run the country. We are not ruled by politicians but by businessmen. Politicians are just middle management. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] Catholic church settles with alleged molestation victim

2000-08-07 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > I think you miss the point. Which is? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are

[CTRL] Fwd: CityPaper...Uncle Sam is the ultimate pusher -- Ira Einhorn was right!

2000-08-07 Thread nessie
Since the early 1970's when he brought information to the Pennsylvania State Attorney General showing CIA complicity on a massive scale in the illegal drug trade, now a fugitive, Ira Einhorn has been trying to expose this CIA-mafia drugtrade 50year ongoing alliance that other researchers now belie

[CTRL] Fwd: DOE offers $600K for Anti-Gravity work of Brazilian Physics Professor?

2000-08-07 Thread nessie
from: [first page of papers reproduced below with link] http://www.cseti.org Brazilian Physics Professor releases Anti-gravity Secrets Content peer reviewed by 36 scientists around the world and a Nobel Prize Winner. Also included -- 2 more papers from which can be built a 214 HP motor powere

Re: [CTRL] George W. Bush's Theme Song this November

2000-08-08 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Unfortunately this is absolutely true. It's not all that well known, though. Therein lies our problem, IMHO. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandi

[CTRL] help me out here, gang

2000-08-08 Thread nessie
What do you think of this site? Legit or what? http://www.double-cross.com http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! Th

Re: [CTRL] help me out here, gang

2000-08-08 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >velly interesting. It will not open in aol's browser, but will in netscape Hm. How about that. Somebody else try, somebody with AOL. Then we can see if it's specific to Kris's computer or to AOL. Kris should try again later to see if it's time specific. Doe

Re: [CTRL] (en) Philly - Key activists were earmarked by police

2000-08-08 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >The critics said the arrests of several protest leaders - "ringleaders," >as > the District Attorney's Office termed them - were part of a pattern in >which > police aimed to >decapitate the leadership of the demonstrations. Horizontal orginization rende

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