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Gunman Kills Two in Michigan High-Rise
Shooter Holes Up in Senior Citizens' Residence
Reuters
DETROIT (April 18) - A disgruntled resident of a senior citizen complex south
of Detroit shot and killed two people on Tuesday and injured several others
before taking refug
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THREE HELD AFTER `STEAMING' GANGS ROB TRAIN PASSENGERS
191224 APR 00
By Martha Linden, PA News
Three youths were being held by police today in connection with "steaming"
attacks on trains carrying passengers returning from a family theme park.
The arrests w
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FARMER FOUND NOT GUILTY OF MURDER ATTEMPT
191248 APR 00
By Rebecca Allison and Damien Brook, PA News
A farmer who opened fire on burglars was today cleared on two charges.
Tony Martin was found not guilty of attempting to murder Brendan Fearon and
cleared of possess
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LAWYERS DEMAND PROBE INTO FARMER JURY `THREATS' CLAIM
201935 APR 00
By David Barrett, PA News
Solicitors acting for convicted farmer Tony Martin tonight demanded an
investigation into claims that jurors were intimidated during the
high-profile murder trial.
Martin,
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19/04 (15:43) THOUSANDS BACKED MARTIN'S ACTIONS
By Rebecca Allison and Brian Farmer, PA News
The ordeal of Tony Martin touched a raw nerve in people across Britain.
Thousands wrote to publicist Max Clifford, who is representing Martin,
expressing their support
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I'd shoot a raider in my home, says Heston
By Hugh Davies, Electronic Telegraph
LIKE 40 million other Americans, the actor Charlton Heston thinks it a
sensible precaution to keep a pistol in the house. As he remarked the other
day, he would not hesitate to kill a b
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When zero tolerance means do nothing
By Quentin Letts - Electronic Telegraph
LIKE Tony Martin, we live at the bottom of a narrow country track, well off
the main road. We like to think our cottage is in a better state of repair
than Mr Martin's Bleak House, but our
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One of the most intersting comments I heard was amazingly on the Radio 4 PM
programme yeaterday. All the letters they received were supportive of Martin
to one degree or another. However one asked the key question: If the roles
had been reversed and the burglars ha
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Blair is told IRA will keep arms
By George Jones, Political Editor
DEMANDS for the IRA to give up its guns were doomed to failure, Sinn Fein
leaders said last night, in a blow to Tony Blair's hopes of reviving the Good
Friday Agreement.
Gerry Adams, Sinn Fein pres
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CONTINUING QUEST TO CATCH JILL DANDO'S KILLER
240251 APR 00
By Sam Greenhill, PA News
The quest to nail Jill Dando's killer today continues to tax the 45
detectives on the case nearly a year after the TV presenter's murder.
After 12 months of painstaking inv
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POLICE AUTHORITY CHIEF DEMANDS CLEARER SELF-DEFENCE LAW
240903 APR 00
By Brian Farmer, PA News
The chairman of Norfolk Police Authority today called for greater clarity in
the law on self defence in the wake of the jailing of farmer Tony Martin for
the murder
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J DANDO TELLS OF MYSTERY CALL BEFORE JILL'S MURDER
222303 APR 00
By Tim Moynihan, PA News
A woman named J Dando who was phoned by a man asking for details about Jill
Dando months before the TV presenter was killed has spoken about how the
brief phone call has change
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Anger over plans to release triple police killer
Sunday 23 April 2000 8:16am
Police representatives have reacted with fury after discovering that a killer
who gunned down three unarmed officers may soon be freed from jail.
Harry Roberts, who was sentenced t
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WIDDECOMBE BACKS `LIMITED VIOLENCE FOR HOUSEHOLDERS'
230603 APR 00
By Andrew Woodcock, Political Correspondent, PA News,
Householders who use limited violence against intruders in their homes
should not be prosecuted, Tory shadow home secretary Ann Widdecombe s
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JAILED FARMER: I FEAR FOR MY LIFE
230613 APR 00
By PA News Reporters
Jailed farmer Tony Martin fears for his life in prison because of his stance
on crime, it was claimed today.
The farmer said he was "living my worst nightmare" by being locked up among
th
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If anyone is on AOL the keyword News Survey will ask you about changing the
self-defence laws.
Kenneth Pantling
Whatever happens they have got
The Maxim Gun, and we have not.
---[Cybershooters contacts]
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Website & subscript
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29/04 (08:09) MAN QUIZZED OVER GUN KIDNAP
By Paul Watson, PA News
Police were today questioning a man named as wanted in connection with the
kidnapping of a family at gunpoint.
Detectives yesterday said they wanted to interview 58-year-old Peter Robert
Hughes
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The Mid Carolina Rifle Club really know how to have an open day:
http://www.scfirearms.org/mcrc/cooper.htm
Get the pictures of the Gatling Gun!!!
Kenneth Pantling
Whatever happens they have got
The Maxim Gun, and we have not.
---[Cybershooters contacts]
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Excellent quotes site, for instance:
There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern.
They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. -- Noah Webster
http://home.interpath.net/pbarrett/quotes.html
Kenneth Pantling
Whatever hap
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01/05 (08:16) INTERNET `SNOOPING' MUST PRESERVE PRIVACY RIGHTS: WATCHDOG
By Bob Roberts, Deputy Political Editor, PA News
A security services watchdog today called for controls over new moves to
intercept e-mails and communications over the Internet.
According
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RELIEF FOR PAIR WHO LEFT BURGLAR WITH FRACTURED SKULL
041821 MAY 00
By Emma Hibbs and Damien Brook, PA News
Two men tonight spoke of their relief at not being charged after they beat
up a burglar with a metal baseball bat.
Burglar David Summers, 21, made all
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JUDGE WAS UNREASONABLE, SAYS BEATEN BURGLAR'S LAWYER
051424 MAY 00
By Damien Brook, PA News
A judge who said a burglar "deserved" a beating he received at the hands of
two men whose home he broke into his home was unreasonable, the raider's
lawyer said today.
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JEFF COOPER'S COMMENTARIES
Previously Gunsite Gossip
HOORAY FOR MAY!
So, by the grace of God and a great deal of luck, I made it to my 80th
birthday. Certainly I never thought I'd live to see the day. Whether being
80 years old is a good thing or not remains t
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In 1997 0r early 98 I was a member of BASC and attended a road show at the
Norwich Showground with several friends. We had been promised a meeting
about the Bill to ban handguns but in fact absolutely nothing happened. After
kicking up a polite rumpus an official sto
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Ok so what are our rubber stamps going to say? My offering is:
Fight crime! Shoot back!
Any cybershooters out there that can get rubber stamps made up?
Kenneth Pantling
Whatever happens they have got
The Maxim Gun, and we have not.
--
I think I'd better check on what
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There is a lot of good gun related clip art on this site:
http://www3.memlane.com/gromboug/P9Guns.htm#cartcolts
Kenneth Pantling
Whatever happens they have got
The Maxim Gun, and we have not.
---[Cybershooters contacts]
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We
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http://www.chapter-one.com/vc/default.asp
This is an interesting site on VC winners with a potted history of each award.
Kenneth Pantling
Whatever happens they have got
The Maxim Gun, and we have not.
---[Cybershooters contacts]
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The Sun Survey on Tony Martin:
Quote:
YOU THE JURY
WE'RE keeping our hotlines open today to pose the vital question: Do YOU
think it is right that Tony Martin has been locked up for life? Calls cost
10p.
YES: 09009 100721
NO: 09009 100722
Unquote
And no, I don
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IT COULD HAPPEN AGAIN, SAYS Pc
221009 APR 00
By Brian Farmer, PA News
What happened in the case of farmer Tony Martin - jailed for life for killing
one burglar and wounding another at his remote farmhouse - could happen a
again, a policeman warned today.
The office
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MARTIN JURY MEMBERS TO BE QUIZZED OVER `INTIMIDATION'
220454 APR 00
By PA News Reporters
Public anger at the life sentence handed out to farmer Tony Martin continued
today as lawyers prepared for an inquiry into claims of jury tampering at his
murder trial.
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Widdecombe said:
<<
"But if you go down to what is far more common, which is people who are
hitting a burglar over the head, then my view is that it is unacceptable
that
a person is at risk of prosecution.
>>
Loads of points in this classic piece of hypocrit
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24/04 (17:00) COURT OFFICIALS TO PROBE MARTIN TRIAL CLAIMS
By Brian Farmer, PA News
Court officials will meet tomorrow to discuss suggestions that jurors in the
Tony Martin murder trial might have been intimidated.
The Lord's Chancellor's Department says offici
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Furor Over Hostage Drama
Reuters
11:15 a.m. Jun. 2, 2000 PDT
LONDON -- The camera never lies -- so they say.
But as the hostage-taker holding children in Luxembourg discovered on
Thursday, the people behind it may not be what they seem.
The armed man
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Schumer unveils gun licensing proposal
Friday, 2 June 2000 22:43 (ET)
Schumer unveils gun licensing proposal
NEW YORK, June 2 (UPI) -- U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer unveiled a national
gun licensing program Friday in New York City and urged New Yorkers to elect
fellow D
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GUN ROUND-UP Pc GAVE AWAY PISTOL, COURT TOLD
051658 JUN 00
By Ashley Broadley, PA News
A police officer who collected firearms in the wake of the Dunblane school
massacre gave away one of the guns which had been handed in during the
amnesty, a court was told t
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BELGIUM'S STRICT GUN USE LAWS
091519 JUN 00
By Geoff Meade, European Editor, PA News in Brussels
Lethal weapons are not difficult to buy on the open market in Belgium, as
the three journalists set out to prove.
But what they demonstrated even more effectivel
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I would like to say that I think a commonly accepted symbol of our
persecution by the state is an excellent idea but the Star of David isn't the
one we should select.
I apologise to the CS subscriber who made the little silver (pewter?) pistols
with the black ribbons
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FARMER WHO MURDERED TEENAGE BURGLAR BEGINS FREEDOM BID
141015 JUN 00
By Sam Greenhill, PA News
Jailed farmer Tony Martin will begin his bid for freedom at the Court of
Appeal on Monday, his solicitor said today.
The court will consider whether members of the
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JEFF COOPER'S COMMENTARIES Vol. 8, No. 6
Previously Gunsite Gossip
JUNE
As the man said, "These are the times that try men's souls." He spoke
when the American nation was in grave peril, and the liberties for which that
nation was founded are to
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<<
Unfortunately I am forced to rely on a bayonet in this country.
>>
Only in the privacy of your own home and between non-consenting adults I
trust!
--
Most assuredly
Steve.
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Website & subs
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My hobby isn't police bashing but I do think they are severely misguided in
their policy, particularly relating to relations with the law abiding
majority of the public;
Two things brought this to mind this weekend:
Firstly the editorial from The Week news magazine:
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POLICEMAN: `JAILED FARMER LET DOWN BY FORCES OF LAW'
161212 MAY 00
By Damien Pearse, Crime Correspondent, PA News
A police leader today described jailed farmer Tony Martin as a victim who
was failed by the forces of law and order that should have protected him
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CORRUPT OFFICERS `POISONING POLICE SERVICE'
161746 MAY 00
By Damien Pearse, Crime Correspondent, PA News
Corrupt police constables are being left to poison the service because there
are not enough seniors officers to supervise them, a police leader said today.
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ARMED POLICE MOUNT INNER CITY OP AFTER SHOOTINGS
180607 MAY 00
By Matthew Cooper, PA News
Armed police today swooped on an inner city area in response to a series of
shooting incidents including one in which a man was murdered and another
seriously injured.
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GUN OWNERS CAN SUE OVER PAYOUT DELAY, SAY LAW LORDS
181448 MAY 00
By Stephen Howard, PA News
Gun enthusiasts still awaiting compensation after being forced to hand over
their hand weapons under strict firearms laws were today given the right by
the House of
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Pentagon envisions cyber-warfare rise
By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
The U.S. military by 2020 will develop the capability to conduct attacks
on foreign computers and networks while defending its systems against
strategic information warfare strikes, a Pent
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GURKHA VC WHO KNOCKED OUT THREE ENEMY GUNS DIES, AGED 81
By Robert Hutton, PA News
A courageous Gurkha who was awarded the Victoria Cross after charging down
three enemy guns which were wiping out his troops has died, aged 81.
Agansing Rai, who was praised for
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I found this on:
http://www.wenet.net/~titangh/webley.html
Lawrence's Most Spectacular Pistol Shot
Nasir screamed at me,'Come on',with his bloody mouth; and we plunged our
camels madly over the hill, and down towards the head of the fleeing enemy.
The slope was not t
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FOUR POLICE IN COURT ON GUNS SCHEME FRAUD CHARGES
011621 JUN 00
By Mark Wilkinson, PA News
Four police officers today appeared in court in connection with an alleged
fraud involving the guns compensation scheme which followed the Dunblane
massacre.
Pc Micha
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The Whalebone Pub in Norwich is worthy of support:
1. It serves a wide variety of real ale.
2. It is busy in the evening but quite at lunchtimes.
3. The landlord is a deer stalker and will talk rifles with you.
How's that for a combination.
It's on Magdalen Road jus
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Police Free Luxembourg Hostages
By PAUL AMES
.c The Associated Press
WASSERBILLIG, Luxembourg (AP) - Police stormed a day care center today,
shooting a hostage-taker and freeing 25 children and three teachers and
ending a 30-hour standoff. All those freed were rep
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ROSIE: MY GUARDS ARE ARMED, BUT NOT IN HOUSE
By LINDA MASSARELLA
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Gun-control activist Rosie O'Donnell defends her use of armed bodyguards,
saying she needs extra security when she travels - but wouldn't le
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HAGUE TO CALL FOR OVERHAUL OF SELF-DEFENCE LAWS
260354 APR 00
By Gavin Cordon, Whitehall Editor, PA News
Tory leader William Hague was today calling for a radical overhaul of the
laws on self defence in the wake of the Tony Martin case.
He will say the murd
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WHY SELF-DEFENCE IS NO SIMPLE DEFENCE
261623 APR 00
By Danny Kemp, PA News
The law on self-defence looks simple enough on paper - a person may use
"reasonable force" to protect themselves from attack.
But it is so wide open to interpretation that using it as
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GUNS THEFT Pc TOLD TO EXPECT JAIL
131634 JUN 00
By Chris Marritt, PA News
A police officer who gave away a pistol handed in during a guns amnesty
following the Dunblane School massacre was today convicted of theft and told
to expect a jail sentence.
Desmond
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FATHER PLANNED TO GIVE STUN GUNS TO HIS CHILDREN
131835 JUN 00
By Chris Court, PA News
A father who illegally imported high-powered electric stun guns via the
Internet intended giving two to his children, a court heard today.
Four of the guns were capable of
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If you go to this site:
http://www.junkscience.com/
and search on the word gun it pulls up some of the John R. Lott articles if
you missed them the first time around, as well as some other interesting
stuff.
Its also a thoroughly entertaining site. I love the piece
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<< GUN OWNERS PLAN TO BATTLE NEW CURBS
180610 JUN 00
By James Lyons, Home Affairs Correspondent, PA News
Gun enthusiasts were today preparing to fight strict new controls expected
to be announced soon by the Government.
Tougher restrictions on gun use were p
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Cybershooters is such a great vehicle for us to communicate with each other
that don't you think its time we had a recruitment drive?
Lets all e-mail any shooting magazine editors and ask them for a mention.
Lets pressure any shooting friends who are on the net but do
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18/06 (14:00) JUVENILE RECORDS WIPED OFF POLICE COMPUTER
By Martin Evans, Political Staff, PA News
The names of 140,000 young offenders have been accidentally wiped off the
national police computer, the Home Office confirmed today.
The blunder occurred when the
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AP National
Thousands of Prairie Dogs Killed
by BRIAN WITTE
Associated Press Writer
SHIELDS, N.D. (AP) -- On a wall in Shields Bar, between mounted heads of deer
and pronghorn, are seven charts tracking 23,895 kills.
Each number represents a dead black-tailed prair
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Two extracts from THE WEEK 17 June 2000
The word 'liberal' has come to mean the opposite of what it used to mean. It
used to imply generosity and tolerance. Nowadays, as Minette Marrin observed
in The Daily Telegraph last week, it is more often used to describe a
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MASKED SHOTGUN RAIDER DIES AFTER STRUGGLE WITH HERO ...
201755 JUN 00
By Alistair Keely, PA News
A masked raider who was found dead in a getaway car after attempting to rob
an isolated post office had been stabbed by the postmaster during the bungled
raid, po
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JAILED FARMER'S LAWYER BACKS HERO POSTMASTER
210915 JUN 00
By Alistair Keely, PA News
A postmaster who killed a masked raider who tried to rob him with a shotgun
today received the backing of one of the solicitors representing jailed
Norfolk farmer Tony Marti
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BAPTIST MINISTER JAILED FOR HAVING NO GUN LICENCE
231527 JUN 00
A Baptist minister was jailed for three months today for possessing an
armoury of sporting rifles and ammunition without a licence.
The Rev Dr David Smith had bought the guns for culling deer and r
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RURAL CRIME UPSURGE BREEDS `SIEGE MENTALITY'
021645 JUL 00
By Alistair Keely, PA News
Rural communities are infected by a "siege mentality" as criminals target
the countryside, insurers said today.
Criminals are shifting their attention from the towns and c
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Off-topic but interesting:
Worried police refuse to give DNA samples
BY DAVID TAYLOR
THOUSANDS of police officers have refused to give DNA samples to a new Home
Office database amid concerns that the genetic fingerprints could be used
against them in paternity suit
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>From Ananova
Parody of animal rights site told to close
When animals rights activists in America tried to log on to the People for
the Ethical Treatment of Animals site, they were directed to People Eating
Tasty Animals.
>From September 1995 to January 1996, Marylan
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