[darktable-dev] Re: [Gimp-developer] Darktable plug-in in GIMP - Darktable for Windows?

2016-04-20 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Sven Claussner  [04-20-16 00:47]:
> Hi,
> 
> sorry if I'm asking the wrong question but I feel I have to.
> Since 18.04.2016 there is a raw importer plug-in in GIMP master
> that calls darktable to do its job. With the same commit
> the GEGL NEF importer was disabled which is a quite clear sign
> of the devs' preferences.
> On the one hand it is great we have proper import for raw
> files in GIMP and darktable is indeed a great application for
> raw processing. On the other hand I see that up to 90% of the PC
> users are Windows users, for instance see these [statistics].
> In the past the darktable devs refused to provide a Windows build
> for understandable reasons of maintenance and even didn't want to
> hear about Partha's Windows build (see the latest discussion about
> this on the darktable dev mailing list in February 2016). The latter
> makes it also very difficult to discuss Windows related bugs
> which will definitely come.
> So, it seems GIMP and Darktable are now trapped - how are
> 90% of the GIMP users supposed to import raw files with an
> application that will probably never support their platform?
> What has led to this decision?
> Did anybody compare the various ways to import raw files
> into GIMP (GEGL, darktable, ufraw, photoflow etc.)?

statistics lie :) but you can always use photivo or rawtherapee.  They
have/provide windows builds.  Or you might embrace linux :) and free
yourself of dependencies which increasingly desire more of your payroll
and allotment for new glass.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Retrieve a collection with multiple conditions

2016-06-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Aurélien PIERRE  [06-19-16 18:00]:
> Hi !
> 
> Is there any way to add several conditions to retrieve collections, for
> example multiple tags or a mix between tags and dates ? I tried several
> tags with &, &&, AND, + etc. and nothing worked.

Yes, the drop down menu for collections will allow to add, narrow or
exclude specific items.
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Re: [darktable-dev] Darktable crash on export with openCl enabled

2016-10-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* parafin  [10-26-16 07:42]:
> Why not add Reply-To and Followup-To headers then with just ML address?
> That is assuming that we allow sending to the list only from subscribed
> people, otherwise I'm not sure how can one understand does he need to
> CC the poster.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:10:49 +0200
> Tobias Ellinghaus  wrote:
> 
> > Am Mittwoch, 26. Oktober 2016, 12:11:45 CEST schrieb Christoph Paulik:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > PS: Please don't send mails to me directly, I am subscribed to the 
> > > > mailing
> > > > list and tired of receiving mails twice.
> > > 
> > > Sorry for that. I did not check when hitting reply.
> > 
> > No worries, I just try to mention it every now and then as I still hope 
> > that 
> > some day the situation will become better. For example by having better 
> > MUAs 
> > widely available. :-)

But list traffic appears on the list.  Why does one need to be cc'd?  If
it is important to see but not important enough to bother to read the
list, one would assume the onus is on the interested party to *request*
cc:  :)

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Re: [darktable-dev] Darktable crash on export with openCl enabled

2016-10-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Pascal Obry  [10-26-16 08:36]:
> Le mercredi 26 octobre 2016 à 07:50 -0400, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :
> > But list traffic appears on the list.  Why does one need to be cc'd?
> 
> Like in real conversation. When you talk to one people the other are
> listening but may not be the main target.
> 
> I far prefer to be in To: and the CC: should be to the list. This way I
> know when something is directed to me and the CC: is there for others
> to take relay if needed or join the conversation.
> 
> I really don't see why a mailing-list should be any different from a
> real life, but it seems like I'm quite alone about this :)

Not to beat a dead horse, but I agree.  When you discuss something in a
group, *usually* the conversation remains a "group" conversation, ie:
addressed to the group/list rather than said twice, once to a single
individual and again to the entire group.

I'm done :).
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Re: [darktable-dev] Gaussian Display Error

2016-10-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* David Vincent-Jones  [10-29-16 12:33]:
> I find that if gaussian curve is used either with shad/high or lowpass the
> display of the histogram is lost also the top-left overall image.
> 
> I first noticed this with shad/high and found the situation was corrected
> when I switched to bilateral filter.

seems also to happen with perspective correction on 19c3415, but not all
the time, and is still active/usable to adjust exposure.  it also will
reappear when accessing some other modules.

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Re: [darktable-dev] A question regarding DT 2.2.0rc0

2016-11-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* J. Liles  [11-11-16 12:53]:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Roman Lebedev  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Francisco Cribari 
> > wrote:
> > > The information on DT v. 2.2.0rc0 available at
> > >
> > > http://www.darktable.org/2016/11/darktable-2-2-0rc0-released/
> > >
> > > indicates that v. 2.2.0rc0 (the first release candidate for the upcoming
> > > version 2.2.0) includes a noise profile for the Fujifilm X-T2 camera but
> > not
> > > for the Fujifilm X-Pro2.
> >
> > > Since the two cameras share the same sensor and the same processor,
> > Do they also have the same firmware, that does exactly the same things
> > to sensor data? Do they actually have the exact same internals?
> >
> 
> Interjecting here since I have had both cameras. Yes, they have the same
> internals. No, they do not have exactly the same firmware, but Fuji is
> keeping them close. As far as the IQ goes, the processing is the same, the
> only differences are continuous autofocus and function button mapping.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > > shouldn’t the two cameras also share the same noise profile?
> > > (This is the case, for instance, of Fujifilm X100S and X100T: they share
> > the
> > > same noise profile since the processor and the sensor are the same in the
> > > two cameras.)
> > Not necessarily. If you have Fujifilm X-Pro2, just take the necessary
> > shots,
> > and either make profile and post it to redmine, or just share the images.
> >
> > > --
> > > Francisco Cribari - http://www.cribari.com.br - "All theory, my friend,
> > is
> > > grey, but green is life's glad golden tree." --Goethe (Faust)
> > Roman.
> >
> > > 
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then why debate when a simple solution is available?  provide the
requested images.
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Re: [darktable-dev] Bottom buttons right click

2016-12-06 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [12-06-16 06:00]:
> Removed ~/.config/darktable — no results, same behaviour. Resetting
> mouse settings with gsettings gave zero result too. I will try another
> PC a bit later.
> 
> On Tue, 2016-12-06 at 13:46 +0300, Roman Lebedev wrote:
> > Worksforme.
> > Also, you can left-click and hold for a few sec, and the same popup
> > will appear.
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Timur Irikovich Davletshin
> >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Exactly, it is nearly impossible to right-click to change settings
> > > of
> > > over/under expose (all buttons, see screenshot). Left-click works
> > > perfectly but right click doesn't work. Sometimes it takes 10 or 20
> > > times to right-click for menu to appear. Other applications' right-
> > > click works as usual so it is not a mouse problem.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2016-12-06 at 11:10 +0100, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Am Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2016, 09:35:58 CET schrieb Timur
> > > > Irikovich
> > > > Davletshin:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hello!
> > > > > 
> > > > > I prefer to use shortcuts to toggle over/under exposed
> > > > > indication
> > > > > and
> > > > > don't use right click to change 2% settings but today I have
> > > > > discovered
> > > > > that it is nearly impossible to right-click those buttons (all
> > > > > of
> > > > > them). I clicked like 20 times and only 2 times I was able to
> > > > > see
> > > > > menu.
> > > > What do you mean, it's impossible to right click? In how far is
> > > > right
> > > > clicking
> > > > different from left clicking?
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > System: Ubuntu 16.04/x64/DT2.2rc2 from unstable PPA
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > Tobias
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I am running b618c6d from git (darix's build) and do no see that problem
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Re: [darktable-dev] GUI not well rendered

2016-12-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Maurizio  [12-13-16 17:55]:
> In data martedì 13 dicembre 2016 17:13:01 CET, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:
> > * Maurizio Paglia  [12-13-16 16:42]:
> > > I install dt from  a third party repo. I always use this repo but this
> > > issue was born after the update to Leap 42.2 maybe I can try to ask to the
> > > package maintainer?
> > > 
> > > Il 13 dic 2016 21:26, "Tobias Ellinghaus"  ha scritto:
> > > > Do you have a custom darktable.css or do you compile darktable yourself?
> > > > This
> > > > looks a bit like an issue with the used GTK version.
> > > > 
> > > > Tobias
> > > > 
> > > > Am Dienstag, 13. Dezember 2016, 18:28:41 CET schrieb Maurizio:
> > > > > Screenshot enclosed.
> > > > > The text of the various views is so big and also buttons of modules
> > > > > are
> > > > 
> > > > big.
> > > > 
> > > > > Scrolling handles are rendered with a big black border.
> > > > > I use only ONE monitor connected via DVI
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Maurizio
> > > > > 
> > > > > In data martedì 13 dicembre 2016 19:13:30 CET, Roman Lebedev ha 
> scritto:
> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Maurizio Paglia
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > I run dt 2.0.7
> > > > > > > After updating to Leap 42.2 the GUI of darktable looks ugly (text
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > label
> > > > > > > is very big and the same for all lines used to draw the GUI).
> > > > > > > The GUI is not only ugly but also difficult to be used. For
> > > > > > > example
> > > > 
> > > > when
> > > > 
> > > > > > > you open a module the module title disappear (together with
> > > > > > > presets
> > > > 
> > > > and
> > > > 
> > > > > > > other buttons) under the histogram.
> > > > > > > Do I need to check if a particular fort is installed?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Screenshot?
> > > > > > Is there more than one monitor?
> > > > > > Is one of monitors HiDPI?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > Maurizio
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Roman.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > 
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> > if it *is* a css issue, you will probably find a css file under:
> >   ~/.config/darktable/
> > probably darktable.css
> > 
> > just erase it and your display should return to normal
> > 
> > ps: for up-to-date versions of dt, I can recommend:
> >  
> > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/darix:/darktable:/master/op
> > enSUSE_Leap_42.2/x86_64/
> > 
> > I have been using Darix's buids for maybe two years and work thousands of
> > photos.  current db contains > 80.000
> 
> Hi Patrick,
> no .css found in ~/.config/darktable/
> 
> - Removed darktable and 'graphic' repo
> - run 'zypper ref' and 'zypper dup' to bring packages to their original 
> furnisher OpenSuse
> - added darix package and re-installed darktable
> 
> Darix ships the 2.2 version but all works fine now!
> 
> Thank you,
> Maurizio

Just remember, you cannot go to a lessor version now as your database
changes incompatibly.  
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Re: [darktable-dev] Unexpected behaviour of "delete" in case of duplicate

2017-01-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Thomas Werzmirzowsky  [01-08-17 16:24]:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> first of all I'd like to thank you for your great work on darktable. I
> really like using it :-)
> 
> Some time ago I noticed a behaviour according to the "delete"
> functionality which I'd consider a bug and wanted to inform you about that.
> 
> In the case that the deleted image is a "original" image the source file
> including the xmp file is deleted as expected. But if I delete a duplicate
> nothing gets deleted from the disk (I'd expect the xmp file to be
> deleted). This causes the duplicate image to reappear if I should ever
> reimport
> the directory. That's not critical but quite annoying.
> 
> I did some debugging in the source code of 2.2.1 and got that far:
> - dt_control_delete_images_job_run in control_jobs.c gets called correctly
> - the else-block with the comment "// don't remove the actual source
> data if there are further duplicates using it;" is entered correctly
> - delete_file_from_disk is called with the correct path (filename of
> duplicate xmp file)
> - within delete_file_from_disk send_to_trash is false
> - created gfile instance points to the right file (duplicate xmp file)
> - g_file_delete returns true although the file doesn't really get
> deleted from the disk
> 
> Would be great if anybody could have a further look at that and if my
> debugging was helpful :-)

I see the same, when original is deleted, the original photo and xmp files
are deleted, but when deleting a duplicate, the duplicated image is
removed but the duplicated image's xmp file remains on disk / is not
deleted.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Unusual stability problem

2017-01-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ulrich Pegelow  [01-29-17 03:41]:
> I need to investigate a bit further. Different from what I thought before it
> does not seem to be related to specific image dimensions. Several images in
> a recent film roll crash immediately when opening them, many others lead to
> a crash when switching images in the darkroom.
> 
> As I have just moved from OpenSUSE 13.2 to Leap 42.1 this might well be
> related to gtk/x as many libraries are now updated.

I am on openSUSE Tumbleweed 20170127, gtk 3.22.7 and dt 0f2cfb2 from
Darix's repo w/o crashes.

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Re: [darktable-dev] export to google photo

2017-01-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Pascal Obry  [01-29-17 11:24]:
> 
> Hi Hans,
> 
> > I'm getting problems also when exporting to G+.
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. I have also tested with 2.2.1 with two
> different accounts and it always fail. So that look like a Google Photo
> issue or a change in the API but I haven't found change in the
> documentation. 
> 
> Let's wait...

I have same problem, requested auth, got auth and provided but export
failed.
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Re: [darktable-dev] export to google photo

2017-02-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Hans Vanpee  [02-05-17 13:44]:
> I just tried and it seems to work here. Maybe it's an intermittent problem
> with the API.
> 
> Op zo 5 feb. 2017 om 19:24 schreef Pascal Obry :
> 
> >
> > Same problem today.
> >
> > I've also tried with Gthumb Google Photo export and it also fails.
> > Seems like Google API is having serious issues since some days.


Works for me today, but not lately

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[darktable-dev] Re: [darktable-user] Please test darktable-2.2.x branch

2017-03-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Roman Lebedev  [03-28-17 04:43]:
> Hi all.
> 
> I believe we are *getting ready* to roll out the next point release, 2.2.4
> 
> Please do test it before it is released, (end of this week?)
> so that the 2.2.2/2.2.3 does not happen again :)

Although I only use a few of the modules, I just ran a shoot >500 raws from
D500 and D3 w/o a hitch.  And generation of the full sized jpg's *appeared*
much faster that the last large shoot I did in December, but had decent
light and little call for noise reduction.

darktable-2.3.0~git421.1dd423c-4.1.x86_64
./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-378.13
kernel 4.10.4-1-default
Model: 6.44.2 "Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 970  @ 3.20GHz
36GB w/no swap

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Re: [darktable-dev] PSA: Does anyone still use gcc-4.8/4.9 ?

2017-03-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* David Vincent-Jones  [01-01-70 12:34]:
> My openSUSE Leap 42.2 is fully up-to-date and uses 4.8-9.61
> 
> 
> On 03/28/2017 01:57 AM, Roman Lebedev wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I want to bump gcc requirement up to GCC-5 soon,
> > after upcoming debian release.
> > I need this for C++14 for rawspeed.
> >
> > Thus, subj.
> > If you do, please speak up now.
> > PS: using outdated distro version is not an excuse.

openSUSE Tw us using:
  gcc --version
  gcc (SUSE Linux) 6.3.1 20170202 [gcc-6-branch revision 245119]


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Re: [darktable-dev] Darktable 2.2.X Plugin Pano Professional

2017-04-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Holger Klemm  [04-03-17 14:01]:
> Am Sonntag, 2. April 2017, 23:27:03 CEST schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus:
> > Am Sonntag, 2. April 2017, 20:53:50 CEST schrieb Holger Klemm:
> > > Hi,
> > > here is the first Pano Professional release.
> > > 
> > > Download:
> > > http://www.multimedia4linux.de/images/darktable/plugins/pano_pro-2.1.tar
> > 
> > Are there plans to move this into darktable's lua-repository on github?
> 
> 
> Yes, why not, but I think we should wait for more translations and bug fixes

are you intending to add support for 2.3.x ???
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Re: [darktable-dev] darktable on Ubuntu 17.04

2017-05-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* François Tissandier  [05-05-17 08:50]:
> No need to compile, i'm on Ubuntu 17.04, using DT from the stable repo, and
> everything looks all right again ! :)
> 
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Heiko Bauke  wrote:
> 
> > Dear Roman,
> >
> > Am 05.05.2017 um 12:44 schrieb Roman Lebedev:
> >
> >> That is not dt bug, there is nothing to wait from us i'm afraid.
> >> The solution is the same as the last few times this was asked:
> >> darktable needs to be rebuilt against that gtk version. that needs to be
> >> either
> >> done by the ubuntu, or by user. If the problem happens on a fresh clean
> >> install
> >> with no PPA's, then i think someone eventually should report that to
> >> ubuntu.
> >>
> >
> > good news.  Recompiling darktable again is not a big deal.  I thought
> > there was some kind of source incompatibility in different gtk versions.

note that it is *mandatory* to use the same or a newer version of dt as
your library is *not* backward compatible.  So if dt from the "stable
repo" is a lesser version, you must not use is.

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Re: [darktable-dev] depreciated themes

2017-06-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* David Vincent-Jones  [06-26-17 17:14]:
> I notice after a fresh system install that I am getting a startup warning on
> dt regarding 4 depreciated gtk.css style properties.
> 68:35 .. 69:35 .. 71:36 .. and 76:30
> 
> How does one make a fix to the situation? I am now running OpenSUSE TW

Tw 20170625 is current.
what version of dt?
what gtk.css do you have installed?

I am running development ver dt, darktable-2.3.0~git762.d0f618ba7-148.1.x86_64
from darix's builds and do not get that warning.

do the warnings cause you a problem?
if not, I wouldn't worry about a "fix", expecially with all the
difficulties apparently gtk present.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Current git display awry

2017-07-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Terry Duell  [07-04-17 19:07]:
> Hello,
> I just built the current master, using my usual method (rpmbuild on fedora
> 25), and find that the display is close to unusable.
> Large fonts and icons and quite wide red borders.
> I should have grabbed a screenshot, but have since reverted to a build from
> about a week ago.
> I can re-install this build and get a screenshot if it is really needed to
> understand the problem.
> Is this likely to be something I have caused?

most of the dev's are asleep now.  from what I have observed, you have a
gtk problem.  did you clean your build system first?  do you have a
recent gtk change?

hope this helps.

ps: darix does builds on openSUSE's build service and I believe he
includes a fedora rpm.  you could check.  I use his openSUSE builds.
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Re: [darktable-dev] Tagging module: What the...

2017-08-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* August Schwerdfeger  [08-05-17 11:17]:
> I compiled the new version (revision 79e8763) and tried it out on the test
> images and also on a copy of my main database. The speed improvement is
> considerable; none of the tagging operations I tried took more than seven
> seconds to complete. I am looking forward to using this in a stable release.

I have been using the "development" (I wouldn't call it that) version for
several years with only two or three ?hickups? which were easy to recover
and during high-school and college soccer season, I process up to 4k a
week.  think you are safe staying with 79e8763 and greater.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Error locking database

2017-08-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* David Vincent-Jones  [08-10-17 19:54]:
> A fresh install of the new Opensuse 42.3 and I get a new dt error when I
> try to import files from my camera.
> 
> "darktable - error locking database
> an error has occurred while trying to open the database from
> /home/david/.config/darktable/data.db
> the database lock file contains a pid that seems to be alive on your
> system:7661"
> 
> The pid # changes if I close dt and retry
> 
> If I ignore the problem, continue and 'click on cameras' the error
> message disappears and the import window opens.
> 
> I notice that the problem of selecting images to download still needs
> the multi-tab workaround on this os version. That 'workaround' scenario
> is not needed with the Tumbleweed Opensuse version
> 
> Am working with the up to date git.


maybe you didn't close darktable properly and left a lock file

stop darktable
ls -la .config/darktable |grep lock

rm -f .config/darktable/*.lock

try again

running Tw, don't know about a "multi-tab" work-a-round.
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Re: [darktable-dev] export naming is broken

2017-09-16 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Tobias Ellinghaus  [09-16-17 14:42]:
> Am Samstag, 16. September 2017, 20:49:30 CEST schrieb Alexander Rabtchevich:
> > Hello
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > Export naming settings like
> > $(FILE_DIRECTORY)/darktable_exported/$(FILE_NAME)_1600
> > 
> > do not work anymore in current git. The program understands the string
> > as /DSC05470_1600/.jpg . It creates a directory for each file and names
> > the file as .jpg .
> 
> Very strange, it works for me. Please try replacing $(FILE_DIRECTORY) with
> $(FILE_FOLDER) – it shouldn't really matter, but the one you are using is 
> just 
> kept for backwards compatibility. I assume that you are using the disk 
> exporter? Did you try cleaning the build/ folder?


4d5d2feea exports correctly for me, also, 
  $(FILE_FOLDER)/DrkTbl/$(FILE_NAME)


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Re: [darktable-dev] export naming is broken

2017-09-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Tobias Ellinghaus  [09-17-17 04:00]:
> Am Sonntag, 17. September 2017, 09:27:37 CEST schrieb Alexander Rabtchevich:
> > Hello
> 
> Hi.
> 
> > Deletion of the build directory and renaming FILE_DIRECTORY to
> > FILE_FOLDER didn't help. The problem is connected with ntfs partition of
> > the disk. If the disk partition is ext4, everything works as before.
> > 
> > $(FILE_FOLDER)/darktable_exported/$(FILE_NAME)_1600
> 
> Please tell me what the file folder and file name are. Maybe there is 
> something 
> special about them. I don't see what change might have affected NTFS support.

jfyi, my successful export check was over nfs4

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[darktable-dev] Library size, just for conversation

2017-09-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
this morning my library contained >88.5k


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Re: [darktable-dev] Library size, just for conversation

2017-09-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* johannes hanika  [09-25-17 14:21]:
> .. and that is images, not bytes in the db, right? most impressive :)

yes, images 16mb,24mb and a very few 12mb
 
> any particular operations that show significant slowdown due to this?
> or does it just work?

I notice no slow-down anywhere except it takes about 30 seconds on startup
to display.  but I usually leave it open as I use it constantly.  I shoot
a lot of soccer games but delete all that I do not show.
 
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Patrick Shanahan  wrote:
> > this morning my library contained >88.5k

previously used bibble, bibble-pro and aftershock 

tks for a great, well maintained program.  I use the dev version for
openSUSE compiled by darix and have not lost an image.  couple of times had
db scrambled but was able to recover.  do not recall ever replacing from
backup.  also had to revert to a prior build on a couple of occasions.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Library size, just for conversation

2017-09-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Tobias Ellinghaus  [09-25-17 17:44]:
> Am Montag, 25. September 2017, 15:32:55 CEST schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
> > * johannes hanika  [09-25-17 14:21]:
> > > .. and that is images, not bytes in the db, right? most impressive :)
> > 
> > yes, images 16mb,24mb and a very few 12mb
> > 
> > > any particular operations that show significant slowdown due to this?
> > > or does it just work?
> > 
> > I notice no slow-down anywhere except it takes about 30 seconds on startup
> > to display.  but I usually leave it open as I use it constantly.  I shoot
> > a lot of soccer games but delete all that I do not show.
> 
> When disabling the crawler in the preferences (so dt doesn't look for changed 
> sidecar files), does that speed startup up?

I have the crawler disabled as after working a set, I store them on an nfs
mounted drive.  the crawler would be *very* slow.

on the occasions where I work a set when traveling and use my laptop, I
import them with accompanying xml files to my workstation.  I cannot think
of a situation for me where the crawler would be any advantage.  if it
happens I need the crawler, I can enable it for that session.

anyway startup only amounts to ~15 seconds on my workstation and isn't a
bother, just noticable.  and startup is only slow when I don't have a set
active, ie: it is accessing the entire collection of 88k instead of
several hundred.

12 core i7 
36 gb
nv GT450
sata 6

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Re: [darktable-dev] Library size, just for conversation

2017-09-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Tobias Ellinghaus  [09-26-17 05:55]:
> Am Montag, 25. September 2017, 18:02:54 CEST schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > anyway startup only amounts to ~15 seconds on my workstation and isn't a
> > bother, just noticable.  and startup is only slow when I don't have a set
> > active, ie: it is accessing the entire collection of 88k instead of
> > several hundred.
> 
> Just to make sure that I understand correctly: When setting the collect 
> module 
> to show everything you got you end up with a startup time (time until the GUI 
> is shown) of about 15 seconds. When setting collect to show just a few images 
> you get an instant startup?

yes, 2-3 seconds.  my root system is on older 128 gb ssd.
 
> In the cases where dt doesn't come up immediately, what do you see? A GUI 
> just 
> consisting of a grey background without any buttons? No window at all? A GUI 
> that is showing everything but isn't reacting to user interaction?

yes, window or full screen as when I last left, with border and black
inside.  when it does display I see everything, thumbs titles, ...
 
> I am asking as for me darktable always starts in less than a second with 10k 
> images in the collection, collect module set to show all images, and the 
> crawler enabled. At least after the 2nd start, so that all the folder 
> information accessed by the crawler is already cached by the kernel.

that pretty well describes what I experience except that I seldom utilize
the collect module.
 
> > 12 core i7
> > 36 gb
> > nv GT450
> > sata 6

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Re: [darktable-dev] Library size, just for conversation

2017-09-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan  [09-26-17 07:32]:
> * Tobias Ellinghaus  [09-26-17 05:55]:
> > Am Montag, 25. September 2017, 18:02:54 CEST schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > anyway startup only amounts to ~15 seconds on my workstation and isn't a
> > > bother, just noticable.  and startup is only slow when I don't have a set
> > > active, ie: it is accessing the entire collection of 88k instead of
> > > several hundred.
> > 
> > Just to make sure that I understand correctly: When setting the collect 
> > module 
> > to show everything you got you end up with a startup time (time until the 
> > GUI 
> > is shown) of about 15 seconds. When setting collect to show just a few 
> > images 
> > you get an instant startup?
> 
> yes, 2-3 seconds.  my root system is on older 128 gb ssd.
>  
> > In the cases where dt doesn't come up immediately, what do you see? A GUI 
> > just 
> > consisting of a grey background without any buttons? No window at all? A 
> > GUI 
> > that is showing everything but isn't reacting to user interaction?
> 
> yes, window or full screen as when I last left, with border and black
> inside.  when it does display I see everything, thumbs titles, ...
>  
> > I am asking as for me darktable always starts in less than a second with 
> > 10k 
> > images in the collection, collect module set to show all images, and the 
> > crawler enabled. At least after the 2nd start, so that all the folder 
> > information accessed by the crawler is already cached by the kernel.

turned crawler on and restart dt, 3:40 to display.  most files, probably
greater than 95% are on nfs.
 
> that pretty well describes what I experience except that I seldom utilize
> the collect module.
>  
> > > 12 core i7
> > > 36 gb
> > > nv GT450
> > > sata 6

I see a "new to me" msg displayed, "### local copies have been
synchronized"

is it new or am I just noticing?

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Re: [darktable-dev] Library size, just for conversation

2017-09-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan  [09-26-17 14:33]:
 [...]
> I see a "new to me" msg displayed, "### local copies have been
> synchronized"
> 
> is it new or am I just noticing?

never mind and pardon the noise.  I now realize why this appears.

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Re: [darktable-dev] possible data loss scenario

2017-10-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alexander Rabtchevich  [10-09-17 08:32]:
> I'll do it at 6 O'clock.

> Gesendet: Montag, 09. Oktober 2017 um 15:17 Uhr
> Von: "Roman Lebedev" 
> Can you please show the output of $ cat darktable/build/src/version_gen.c
> ?

> > Gesendet: Montag, 09. Oktober 2017 um 13:51 Uhr
> > Von: "Roman Lebedev" 
> >  wrote:
> >> git master
> > Uhm, that is confusing. Which commit, specifically?
> >
> > I have expected that it was fixed by
> > 5f87ee20f6589cb8ff995fd4dcce4506471dd5ec,
> > which was first in 2.2.2

fwiw, I have 4c0754d03 and when "collect images" input box has focus, it
keeps focus no matter where the mouse is positioned unless another area is
"clicked".  I have mis-typed here as a result but noted and take caution.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Deconvolution and Python framework

2017-10-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Pete Hall  [10-11-17 09:37]:
> Just an opinion from a devoted user... It might be a very useful tool
> for me.  I shoot a lot of sporting events.  It's common for me to find a
> great shot ruined because at the critical moment, the camera focused on
> the wrong player, or on the goal keeper's net.  Even if it can't be made
> efficient for the normal workflow, it could still be a very useful tool,
> at least for me.
> 
> On October 11, 2017 3:03:44 AM CDT, Heiko Bauke  wrote:
> >Dear Aurélien,
> >
> >Am 10.10.2017 um 10:25 schrieb Aurélien PIERRE:
> >> Following my work from this Summer, I'm glad to propose my first
> >blind 
> >> deconvolution algorithm, written in Python, based on papers from 
> >> 2011-2014  : https://github.com/aurelienpierre/Image-Cases-Studies
> >> 
> >> TL;DR :
> >> 
> >> Blind deconvolution is a technique used in astronomy and microscopy
> >to 
> >> deblur pictures based on an estimation of the blur "profile" (SPF for
> >
> >> the geeks). This work on motion blur, focus blur, etc. A commercial 
> >> photo software get spectacular results with this technique : 
> >> http://relaunch.piccureplus.com/ (although it's not really blind).
> >> 
> >> My code is a proof of concept which runs now (barely optimized)
> >between 
> >> 50 and 275 s on a 2 Mpx image.
> >> 
> >> I'm still looking for some help to port it in a Darktable module,
> >since 
> >> I'm not a C developper (or at least some doc).
> >
> >I am still rather skeptic regarding the question if a blind 
> >deconvolution algorithm fits into the darktable workflow.  It may be 
> >computationally too demanding.  Nevertheless, this is a very
> >fascinating 
> >topic and I will have a look at your code.  Thanks for your efforts.
> >
> >
> > Heiko
> >
> >
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I agree with this.  I also shoot a lot of soccer and loose some good shots
because of errant focus.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Deconvolution and Python framework

2017-10-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jørn Villesen Christensen  [10-11-17 11:25]:
> On 2017-10-11 15:35, Pete Hall wrote:
> >Just an opinion from a devoted user... It might be a very useful tool for
> >me. I shoot a lot of sporting events. It's common for me to find a great
> >shot ruined because at the critical moment, the camera focused on the
> >wrong player, or on the goal keeper's net. Even if it can't be made
> >efficient for the normal workflow, it could still be a very useful tool,
> >at least for me.
> 
> Same for me - I think that would be an awesome feature, although I am kind
> of sceptical that it will be the magical bullet for you, Pete ;-)
> 
> But nonetheless, I hope that it will be possible to fit this functionality
> into the workflow of Darktable - although I do see the challenges with the
> time requirements.

but those "challenges" would only affect a small sub-set of dt users, the
same as those working low-light and/or high-noise images.  and you can
prioritize usage, work those modules last to minimize delays.  

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Re: [darktable-dev] possible data loss scenario

2017-10-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alexander Rabtchevich  [10-25-17 12:12]:
> Hello
> 
> Yesterday I've almost lost my data again. That time that hadn't happened
> because no images were selected. It's some kind of Russian roulette to
> change image size.
> 
> With respect,
> Alexander Rabtchevich
> 
> David Vincent-Jones wrote:
> >Most noticed occurrence:
> >
> >Select items to print >
> >double click to select current width for normal replace >
> >type '0' >
> >All selected images are now 'X' rated.
> >
> >I can only change width and height valued by backspacing.
> >
> >David
> >
> >

cannot you provide steps and conditions which led to your "almost"
condition that someone may provide a solution?  only you can see and
experience what is in front of you, other just have to guess or summons
their crystal balls, or iron or 

perhaps your methods need examining.  the *only* time I recall "almost"
loosing data was when I was being quite foolist and in too much hurry
mode.  but I caught myself, re: almost.

and I have "trash" disabled.  
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Re: [darktable-dev] possible data loss scenario

2017-10-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alexander Rabtchevich  [10-25-17 15:07]:
> I've provided all the required steps in the thread before, step by step.
> Maybe it's better to spend some time for reading before blaming, isn't it?
> 
> One of the user-cases is: start editing in some edit control (image size for
> export etc.) If the cursor occasionally leaves the control for some other
> control (except label), the latter steals focus and the keyboard input is
> not hooked by the original edit control one is actually typing in. If one is
> typing digits at that moment, they are interpreted as star rating. If any
> images are selected, that rating is mutually applied for them.
> 
> If one have selected some images by some search criterion, including rating,
> applying wrong star rating can be fully destructive as that cannot be undone
> without the full knowledge about the set of affected images and their
> initial ratings.
> 
> 
> With respect,
> Alexander Rabtchevich
> 
> Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >* Alexander Rabtchevich  [10-25-17 12:12]:
> >>Hello
> >>
> >>Yesterday I've almost lost my data again. That time that hadn't happened
> >>because no images were selected. It's some kind of Russian roulette to
> >>change image size.
> >>
> >>With respect,
> >>Alexander Rabtchevich
> >>
> >>David Vincent-Jones wrote:
> >>>Most noticed occurrence:
> >>>
> >>>Select items to print >
> >>>double click to select current width for normal replace >
> >>>type '0' >
> >>>All selected images are now 'X' rated.
> >>>
> >>>I can only change width and height valued by backspacing.
> >>>
> >>>David
> >>>
> >>>
> >cannot you provide steps and conditions which led to your "almost"
> >condition that someone may provide a solution?  only you can see and
> >experience what is in front of you, other just have to guess or summons
> >their crystal balls, or iron or 
> >
> >perhaps your methods need examining.  the *only* time I recall "almost"
> >loosing data was when I was being quite foolist and in too much hurry
> >mode.  but I caught myself, re: almost.
> >
> >and I have "trash" disabled.

I read the list and have read your posts and I have used dt extensively
for several years and cannot recall more than once or twice having the
mouse pointer "wander", but I use a track-ball.  Maybe that is the
difference.  I did suggest you examine your methods and maybe you can
minimize or stop the "cursor from leaving control" and stop almost losing
data.

and I cannot recall nor see that any "blame" has been assigned you, only a
suggestion that your methods may be suspect.  skin thin?

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Re: [darktable-dev] possible data loss scenario

2017-10-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* David Vincent-Jones  [10-25-17 12:39]:
> The steps that I detailed (below) were quite specific
> 
> David
> 
> 
> On 10/25/2017 09:18 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >* Alexander Rabtchevich  [10-25-17 12:12]:
> >>Hello
> >>
> >>Yesterday I've almost lost my data again. That time that hadn't happened
> >>because no images were selected. It's some kind of Russian roulette to
> >>change image size.
> >>
> >>With respect,
> >>Alexander Rabtchevich
> >>
> >>David Vincent-Jones wrote:
> >>>Most noticed occurrence:
> >>>
> >>>Select items to print >
> >>>double click to select current width for normal replace >
> >>>type '0' >
> >>>All selected images are now 'X' rated.
> >>>
> >>>I can only change width and height valued by backspacing.
> >>>
> >>>David
> >>>
> >>>
> >cannot you provide steps and conditions which led to your "almost"
> >condition that someone may provide a solution?  only you can see and
> >experience what is in front of you, other just have to guess or summons
> >their crystal balls, or iron or 
> >
> >perhaps your methods need examining.  the *only* time I recall "almost"
> >loosing data was when I was being quite foolist and in too much hurry
> >mode.  but I caught myself, re: almost.
> >
> >and I have "trash" disabled.
> 

why would you continue to use a method/approach that causes you that kind
of concern.  ?? double click ?? windows ??
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Re: [darktable-dev] Tamron 10-24mm F/3.5-4.5 Di II VC HLD with Canon EOS 80D

2017-11-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Holger Klemm  [11-05-17 04:29]:
> Yesterday I tested the Tamron 10-24mm F / 3.5-4.5 Di II VC HLD on my Canon 
> EOS 
> 80D. After opening the RAW file with Darktable 2.2.5 I found that the lens is 
> detected as a Canon EF 11-24mm f / 4 USM. The Exif data from the lens model 
> are correct, but different with the lens id...

it's not dt but lensfun which dt uses.  you need to file a bug report to
lensfun.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Windows Version, Light Table Scroll Bar Missing and GPS Data

2017-11-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* n61...@gmail.com  [11-19-17 17:50]:
>  
> 
> Not sure if my config, or some other issue.  I have imported over 24K
> images, and using the arrow keys I can scroll through the images. No scroll
> bar is visible on either my color managed Adobe RGB monitor or the sRGB
> basic monitor.
> 
> However, no scroll bar is viewable. I have attached two screen shots, one
> with the right panel open and one with it closed.
> 
> In addition, the GPS data from the DNG files are missing. I used Adobe
> Lightroom to convert JPEG (really old cameras) and CR2 raw files to DNG.
> Within Lightroom, I can see the GPS information.
> 
> Let me know what is needed to help test, track the issue (I can provide
> sample DNG files or log files).
> 
>  
> 
> Before I crated bug reports, wanted to know if I missed an existing issue I
> should attach too. (My search did not show any appropriate bugs).
 
the "scroll" bars are clearly visible on the outside edge of the left and
right panels.  there is no scroll bar for the images in the center, but
page up/down and rolling mouse wheel works.  you can also reduce the size
of the thumbnails to page faster.  




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Re: [darktable-dev] Windows Version, Light Table Scroll Bar Missing and GPS Data

2017-11-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* n61...@gmail.com  [11-19-17 22:36]:
> Oops sorry. I was trying to reduce noise in Redmond and did not consider the 
> email size. Note made, will do so in the future.
> The scroll bar on the far right does not work when I click on it. Yes, a 
> mouse wheel works (when I have that plugged in, I use a trackball).
> 
> Tim
> -- Original message--From: Patrick ShanahanDate: Sun, Nov 19, 2017 
> 9:19 PMTo: 'darktable';Cc: Subject:Re: [darktable-dev] Windows Version, Light 
> Table Scroll Bar Missing and GPS Data
> * n61...@gmail.com  [11-19-17 17:50]:
> >  
> > 
> > Not sure if my config, or some other issue.  I have imported over 24K
> > images, and using the arrow keys I can scroll through the images. No scroll
> > bar is visible on either my color managed Adobe RGB monitor or the sRGB
> > basic monitor.
> > 
> > However, no scroll bar is viewable. I have attached two screen shots, one
> > with the right panel open and one with it closed.
> > 
> > In addition, the GPS data from the DNG files are missing. I used Adobe
> > Lightroom to convert JPEG (really old cameras) and CR2 raw files to DNG.
> > Within Lightroom, I can see the GPS information.
> > 
> > Let me know what is needed to help test, track the issue (I can provide
> > sample DNG files or log files).
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Before I crated bug reports, wanted to know if I missed an existing issue I
> > should attach too. (My search did not show any appropriate bugs).
>  
> the "scroll" bars are clearly visible on the outside edge of the left and
> right panels.  there is no scroll bar for the images in the center, but
> page up/down and rolling mouse wheel works.  you can also reduce the size
> of the thumbnails to page faster.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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they will work if you position the mouse pointer correctly upon the
scroll-bar, as will the logitech track-ball that I use.

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Re: [darktable-dev] 2.4.0 Printer Module?

2017-12-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alan Lundin  [12-19-17 10:18]:
> * Pascal Obry (pas...@obry.net) [171219 08:02]:
> * Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] 2.4.0 Printer Module?:
> > Alan,
> > 
> > If by any chance you still have a dt 2.2 around can you check that the
> > print is correct or not?
> > 
> > As I said we may have different issues.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> 
> That's a good idea.
> 
> 2.2 is blown away, but it's easy enough to recompile.  I'll
> test it out as soon as I get home.
> 
> I also want to try printing from a fresh process without touching
> the UniWB .tiff files first using 2.4.  For that matter, 2.2 both
> ways too.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll post the results.

remember that your 2.4 database is undoubtedly feature different than the
2.2 dt so start with newly imported images w/o matching xmp files. 
accessing your current 2.4 db with dt 2.2 will undoubtedly corrupt the db.


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Re: [darktable-dev] OpenCL does not work after Nvidia driver upgrade to 384.90

2018-01-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* KOVÁCS István  [01-08-18 15:24]:
> Hello,
> 
> In case anyone is interested, upgrading to nvidia-384.98 from PPA
> solved my problem.
> kofa@eagle:~$ dpkg -l|egrep -i "opencl|nvidia|cuda"
> ii  bbswitch-dkms   0.8-3ubuntu1
>   amd64Interface for
> toggling the power on NVIDIA Optimus video cards
> ii  libcuda1-384
> 384.98-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1   amd64
> NVIDIA CUDA runtime library
> ii  nvidia-384
> 384.98-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1   amd64
> NVIDIA binary driver - version 384.98
> ii  nvidia-libopencl1-384
> 384.98-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1   amd64
> NVIDIA OpenCL Driver and ICD Loader library
> ii  nvidia-opencl-icd-384
> 384.98-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1   amd64
> NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
> ii  nvidia-prime0.8.2
>   amd64Tools to enable
> NVIDIA's Prime
> ii  nvidia-settings
> 387.22-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1   amd64
> Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
> ii  opencl-headers  2.0~svn32091-2
>   all  OpenCL (Open
> Computing Language) header files
> 
> Kofa
> 
> 
> On 19 December 2017 at 09:07, Bob Tregilus  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:30 PM, KOVÁCS István 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Update: I've gone through all the modules, moving the .cl source files
> >> for failing modules so darktable would get through the startup
> >> process. The following needed to be moved (these are the ones that
> >> fail to compile):
> >> atrous.cl  basic.cl  blendop.cl  bloom.cl  colorreconstruction.cl
> >> demosaic_markesteijn.cl  demosaic_other.cl  demosaic_vng.cl
> >> denoiseprofile.cl  extended.cl  liquify.cl  nlmeans.cl  sharpen.cl
> >> soften.cl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >> K.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> > I mention this because it is an odd behavior when I start Darktable
> > (versions 2.2.5 and now 2.4.0~rc2, but not older versions).
> >
> > Under KDE there's a function called "KDE Wallet Subsystem". I guess it's
> > intended to store passwords.
> >
> > It's very annoying and it's the first thing I turn off when installing a new
> > upgrade.
> >
> > In the past, if I turn the Wallet off, when I launched various software that
> > would attempt to call the wallet up, of course nothing would happen because
> > it was turned off.
> >
> > However, beginning with Darktable 2.2.5, when I start it up, the wallet
> > dialog box opens. I just click 'cancel' which closes the dialog, but it
> > immediately reopens again. It takes three 'cancels' before a forth dialog
> > opens telling me something about the wallet misbehaving, which I close as
> > well. Meanwhile, Darktable loads in the background of all of that going on
> > and runs fine thereafter.
> >
> > I haven't paid it much attention to it because that's the way the KDE Wallet
> > behaved in the past when it first appeared about 10-12 years ago. After a
> > couple of years, it finally stayed off completely after being initially
> > being disabled upon installation of the distro.
> >
> > Just thought I'd mention it. Haven't a clue if it's related at all to your
> > problem or NVIDIA cards and their software, which I've run for the past two
> > decades. Use to have to compile the NVIDIA drivers into the kernel, years
> > ago.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > PS: If Roman & Adam are reading this, support for the ILCE-7RM3 in 2.4.0~rc2
> > seems to be working fine. Thanks!
> >
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NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-387.12.run
NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-387.22.run
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Re: [darktable-dev] damaged font

2018-02-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Peter Böhnel  [02-05-18 17:58]:
> Hi there,
> 
> I cannot use darktable because of this problem (see screenshot) Anyone knows 
> where the damaged font comes from?
> Mac Os High Sierra 10.13.3 (17D47)
> 
> Regards 
> Peter

just guessing, but maybe your locale.  maybe try exporting a language
choice or a locale on the command-line along with "darktable".


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Re: [darktable-dev] Contextual help

2018-02-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Maurizio Paglia  [02-11-18 18:31]:
> In data sabato 10 febbraio 2018 12:02:55 CET, Tobias Ellinghaus ha scritto:
> > Am Samstag, 10. Februar 2018, 11:06:05 CET schrieb Maurizio Paglia:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > libdarktable.so: riferimento non definito a
> > > "Imf_2_1::Chromaticities::Chromaticities(Imath_2_2::Vec2 const&,
> > > Imath_2_2::Vec2 const&, Imath_2_2::Vec2 const&,
> > > Imath_2_2::Vec2 const&)"
> > > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
> > 
> > It seems that during linking the OpenEXR libraries are not found. What
> > version do you have installed? Look for openexr or ilmbase.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > Tobias
> 
> In order to keep my Linux box clean I installed Ubuntu on a virtual
> machine.  I found many more instructions about Ubuntu rather than
> OpenSuse In this way I am also sure my system will go on and work
> smoothly also in case of hazardous operations I can do.

and there are pre-build rpm packages for openSUSE, no need to build, and
an rpm of the latest git is built within minutes of git appearing.
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Re: [darktable-dev] Standardization of keyboard shortcuts notation in the documentation

2018-04-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Tobias Ellinghaus  [04-03-18 08:18]:
> Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 09:58:15 CEST schrieb openhab@web.de:
> > Hello,
> > In the documentation there are different spellings for the key combinations.
> > In the text you can usually find the notation e.g. Ctrl-c. In the chapter
> > Shortcuts is the notation c.
> 
> Yes, it's quite inconsistent at the moment.
> 
> > I would volunteer to correct this, but first I would like to define the
> > spelling. 
> 
> Hooray!
> 
> > I'd prefer an output like the attached picture, but I haven't found an XML
> > compliant solution yet. Ideas are welcome!
> 
> That would require a font which looks like that, which we would have to ship. 
> Sounds error prone.
> 
> > Therefore I would adapt the documentation as follows:
> > 1.) Change the lowercase letters to uppercase, this is the common spelling.
> > 2.) I would change the hyphen to a plus sign.
> > 3.) If there are several keys, one space between the character and plus 
> >  
> > This changes the previous notation from Ctrl-c to Ctrl + C.
> 
> That sounds like a good plan.
> 
> > The documentation often contains . With regard to Windows and Linux
> > users, I would change this to Ctrl. In my opinion Ctrl is more common.  
> 
> Ack.
> 
> > Feedback are wellcome!
> 
> Go ahead!

would it be better to display the key combinations as they appear in the
keyboardrc file that they may be searched for readily if one happens to
develope momentary old-timers, ie: w 
and emphasize that the "Primary" key is the Control Key?

or change  in the keyboardrc file to  and reference as:
  w

fwiw: tmux refers to the primary key as the "prefix" key but that key may
be designated in tmuxrc.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Standardization of keyboard shortcuts notation in the documentation

2018-04-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* openhab@web.de  [04-03-18 13:40]:
> Hi Patrick,
>  
> I can't quite follow your execution, probably because I'm not so deeply
> involved in darktable. I don't know what the keyboardrc file is.
>  
> I have had a computer for over 25 years and I learned what the primery key is
> just a few weeks ago. Therefore, I do not think this term is so common.

perhaps not.  my first "computer" was a VIC-20, and I also was not
familiar with a prefix or primary key either but understand the concept.
  
> Is it really important that the manual matches the keyboardrc? It is much more
> important that beginners get along with the documentation and understand it.

then explain both concepts and how used rather than changing one confusion
for another.
  
> The designation in the documentation should be the same as in the program.
> In the settings of the German darktable version the key combinations are Ctrl
> + C and the primary buttons are called Ctrl. Perhaps this is due to the
> translation. How is it in the English version?

they are  or ctrl + c, there is no confusion.

see below
  
> Before I start and invest time, I would have clarified the topic and
> defined the spelling.
>  
> Thanks for feedback!
>  
> Pierre Metzner
>  
> Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 14:42:45 CEST schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
> > * Tobias Ellinghaus  [04-03-18 08:18]:
> > > Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018, 09:58:15 CEST schrieb openhab@web.de:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > In the documentation there are different spellings for the key
> > > > combinations. In the text you can usually find the notation e.g.
> > > > Ctrl-c. In the chapter Shortcuts is the notation c.
> > >
> > > Yes, it's quite inconsistent at the moment.
> > >
> > > > I would volunteer to correct this, but first I would like to define the
> > > > spelling.
> > >
> > > Hooray!
> > >
> > > > I'd prefer an output like the attached picture, but I haven't found an
> > > > XML
> > > > compliant solution yet. Ideas are welcome!
> > >
> > > That would require a font which looks like that, which we would have to
> > > ship. Sounds error prone.
> > >
> > > > Therefore I would adapt the documentation as follows:
> > > > 1.) Change the lowercase letters to uppercase, this is the common
> > > > spelling.
> > > > 2.) I would change the hyphen to a plus sign.
> > > > 3.) If there are several keys, one space between the character and plus
> > > >
> > > > This changes the previous notation from Ctrl-c to Ctrl + C.
> > >
> > > That sounds like a good plan.
> > >
> > > > The documentation often contains . With regard to Windows and
> > > > Linux users, I would change this to Ctrl. In my opinion Ctrl is more
> > > > common.>
> > > Ack.
> > >
> > > > Feedback are wellcome!
> > >
> > > Go ahead!
> >
> > would it be better to display the key combinations as they appear in the
> > keyboardrc file that they may be searched for readily if one happens to
> > develope momentary old-timers, ie: w
> > and emphasize that the "Primary" key is the Control Key?
> >
> > or change  in the keyboardrc file to  and reference as:
> > w
> >
> > fwiw: tmux refers to the primary key as the "prefix" key but that key may
> > be designated in tmuxrc.

the primary/prefix keys are the same by different names.  you can see the
keyboardrc file at ~/.config/darktable/keyboardrc.  it contains all the
key definitions, but the  key is designated as the  key. 
they are the same.  I do not know the reasoning to designate the 
key as "Primary" but it was done by the dev's some time ago.  the keys are
defined as  in keyboardrc, not ,  or Ctrl, common
naming or not.  so if you refer to the  key as Ctrl, it must be
emphasized as such so no confusion results when looking at the file where
all the key definitions are made.  or change the key definition 
to  and refer to  rather than just Ctrl.

I believe changing one confusing definition for another is not beneficial.

as I do not know your operating system, windows may have the keyboardrc
file in a different location.  I don't prefer windows.

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Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [04-04-18 08:01]:
> On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich
> > Davletshin:
> > > Hello everybody!
> > > 
> > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem
> > > related
> > > to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2).
> > > 
> > > 1. NEF file loaded by DT applies correct lens parameters.
> > >   Lens info shown by DT: Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G
> > > VR II
> > > 
> > > 2. DNG file cannot apply it because wrong EXIF information is used
> > > (short lens name vs. full).
> > >   Lens info shown by DT: 18.0-55.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
> > > 
> > > 3. Focus information also is lost in DNG.
> > 
> > That's why we tell everyone to never convert to DNG.
> > 
> > Tobias
> > 
> > [...]
> 
> I believe problem is Nikon/DT related not DNG. Canon files I tried work
> as expected. Another example Nikon D1X files converted to DNG are
> useless because there is no way turn pixel scale module on manually.

simple, don't convert native files to dng.  the dng format is not provided
by Nikon and cannot know the proprietary secrets that Nikon uses to
generate its raw files.  dng is *not* a standard.  dng makes changes the
the original (raw).  why convert your raw twice?

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Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [04-04-18 08:46]:
> On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [04-04-18
> > 08:01]:
> > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich
> > > > Davletshin:
> > > > > Hello everybody!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem
> > > > > related
> > > > > to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2).
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. NEF file loaded by DT applies correct lens parameters.
> > > > >   Lens info shown by DT: Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm
> > > > > f/3.5-5.6G
> > > > > VR II
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2. DNG file cannot apply it because wrong EXIF information is
> > > > > used
> > > > > (short lens name vs. full).
> > > > >   Lens info shown by DT: 18.0-55.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
> > > > > 
> > > > > 3. Focus information also is lost in DNG.
> > > > 
> > > > That's why we tell everyone to never convert to DNG.
> > > > 
> > > > Tobias
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > 
> > > I believe problem is Nikon/DT related not DNG. Canon files I tried
> > > work
> > > as expected. Another example Nikon D1X files converted to DNG are
> > > useless because there is no way turn pixel scale module on
> > > manually.
> > 
> > simple, don't convert native files to dng.  the dng format is not
> > provided
> > by Nikon and cannot know the proprietary secrets that Nikon uses to
> > generate its raw files.  dng is *not* a standard.  dng makes changes
> > the
> > the original (raw).  why convert your raw twice?
> > 
> 
> DNG made from Canon, Olympus works, Nikon's doesn't... meanwhile EXIF
> data is there. Looks like it's not a problem of DNG itself.
> 
> Whether we like it or not but DNG files (native or converted) are quite
> common. Especially when DT documentation declares some sort of DNG
> support in very first line of https://www.darktable.org/resources/camer
> a-support/

do you not really read what you cite?
  
  Cameras that produce DNG files should be supported even if they are not
  on the list but samples are still appreciated.
  
says nothing about supporting dng which is not native out-of-the-camera.
  
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Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [04-04-18 09:08]:
> On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [04-04-18
> > 08:01]:
> > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur Irikovich
> > > > Davletshin:
> > > > > Hello everybody!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered problem
> > > > > related
> > > > > to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2).
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. NEF file loaded by DT applies correct lens parameters.
> > > > >   Lens info shown by DT: Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm
> > > > > f/3.5-5.6G
> > > > > VR II
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2. DNG file cannot apply it because wrong EXIF information is
> > > > > used
> > > > > (short lens name vs. full).
> > > > >   Lens info shown by DT: 18.0-55.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
> > > > > 
> > > > > 3. Focus information also is lost in DNG.
> > > > 
> > > > That's why we tell everyone to never convert to DNG.
> > > > 
> > > > Tobias
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > 
> > > I believe problem is Nikon/DT related not DNG. Canon files I tried
> > > work
> > > as expected. Another example Nikon D1X files converted to DNG are
> > > useless because there is no way turn pixel scale module on
> > > manually.
> > 
> > simple, don't convert native files to dng.  the dng format is not
> > provided
> > by Nikon and cannot know the proprietary secrets that Nikon uses to
> > generate its raw files.  dng is *not* a standard.  dng makes changes
> > the
> > the original (raw).  why convert your raw twice?
> > 
> 
> Same files tested in Rawtherapee work as expected. Lens correction is
> applied, focus distance is displayed, D1X files are properly scaled.

rawtherapee is not dt.  ps may also, but I do not know.  means nothing. 
don't convert to dng, dt then works fine.

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Re: [darktable-dev] DNG vs RAW → Lens and focus info

2018-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [04-04-18 09:40]:
> On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 09:27 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [04-04-18
> > 08:46]:
> > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 08:21 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > > > * Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [04-04-
> > > > 18
> > > > 08:01]:
> > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 13:36 +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> > > > > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2018, 13:15:39 CEST schrieb Timur
> > > > > > Irikovich
> > > > > > Davletshin:
> > > > > > > Hello everybody!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Just decided to play with DNG converter and discovered
> > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > related
> > > > > > > to lens data interpretation by DT (2.4.2).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1. NEF file loaded by DT applies correct lens parameters.
> > > > > > >   Lens info shown by DT: Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm
> > > > > > > f/3.5-5.6G
> > > > > > > VR II
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 2. DNG file cannot apply it because wrong EXIF information
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > used
> > > > > > > (short lens name vs. full).
> > > > > > >   Lens info shown by DT: 18.0-55.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 3. Focus information also is lost in DNG.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That's why we tell everyone to never convert to DNG.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Tobias
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > I believe problem is Nikon/DT related not DNG. Canon files I
> > > > > tried
> > > > > work
> > > > > as expected. Another example Nikon D1X files converted to DNG
> > > > > are
> > > > > useless because there is no way turn pixel scale module on
> > > > > manually.
> > > > 
> > > > simple, don't convert native files to dng.  the dng format is not
> > > > provided
> > > > by Nikon and cannot know the proprietary secrets that Nikon uses
> > > > to
> > > > generate its raw files.  dng is *not* a standard.  dng makes
> > > > changes
> > > > the
> > > > the original (raw).  why convert your raw twice?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > DNG made from Canon, Olympus works, Nikon's doesn't... meanwhile
> > > EXIF
> > > data is there. Looks like it's not a problem of DNG itself.
> > > 
> > > Whether we like it or not but DNG files (native or converted) are
> > > quite
> > > common. Especially when DT documentation declares some sort of DNG
> > > support in very first line of https://www.darktable.org/resources/c
> > > amer
> > > a-support/
> > 
> > do you not really read what you cite?
> >   
> >   Cameras that produce DNG files should be supported even if they are
> > not
> >   on the list but samples are still appreciated.
> >   
> > says nothing about supporting dng which is not native out-of-the-
> > camera.
> >   
> 
> This is why I wrote 'native or converted' in my previous letter. Dear
> Patrick, I'm not here for the purpose of your religious war against DNG
> which is *not* standard. I think this is just an obvious bug which can
> be easily fixed.

and I have serious doubts the dev's will be concerned as they have
repeatedly stated that altering an original raw is WRONG.  why would they
commit work to support it?

I am not for or against dng, don't use it, don't care, don't understand
why one would endure the extra effort and time required.  your perception,
not mine.  and would only be considered a bug if that feature was to be
supported, otherwise it would be a feature request.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Re: XML parser → Huge sidecar files

2018-04-16 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [04-16-18 04:56]:
> Well, I was able to edit them with sed script to remove all masks, but
> parsing XML to find used/unused masks is beyond my skills (I'm not
> familiar with XMP standards). I believe future DT releases should sort
> this out in some way. At least for this issue is very critical, it
> slows down opening/closing files in my library multiple times.
> 
> On Mon, 2018-04-16 at 10:19 +0200, sturmflut wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I can confirm this for the latest version in the darktable-2.4.x
> > branch
> > (commit edf1168371be288f071986d93a47fb3e082573de). The sidecar files
> > seem to contain an awful lot of masks, but I can't seem to see which
> > module even uses them?
> > 
> > cheers,
> > Simon
> > 
> > 
> > On 15.04.2018 20:28, Timur Irikovich Davletshin wrote:
> > > It looks like I was able to find what action causes this problem.
> > > 
> > > Steps to reproduce:
> > > 
> > > 1. Download, unpack and import as folder — https://drive.google.com
> > > /ope
> > > n?id=14sZLgnpZSV5W3pw1K_8owHW29Heq9EWz (don't pay attention to
> > > content
> > > and settings)
> > > 2. Choose second picture and click (in lighttable mode) copy
> > > history
> > > stack and choose, let's say, 'shadows and highlights' settings.
> > > 3. Apply it (paste) to first picture, open it, compress history
> > > stack
> > > and close DT.
> > > 4. Now compare XMP files, first one is twice bigger than second one
> > > (in
> > > my case ~700kB vs ~1400kB). Meanwhile in darkroom mode history
> > > stack
> > > looks the same.
> > > 
> > > Can anyone comment, what is going on here?
> > 
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I don't know that it would make any difference, but all my xmp files have
at least 14 masks where I have not employed any masks and most of my xmp
files range from 5k to 17k and doesn't appear to depend on which body
employed.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Custom Image Order by Drag and Drop

2018-04-16 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Mario Lüder  [04-16-18 18:43]:
> Hi Dan,
> 
> Thanks for your advise. I thought that mailing list here would the right
> channel to communicate thoughts/ideas and getting suggestion in return.
> 
> I have pushed my changes and did a pull request.
> 
> I hope nobody feels offended by doing it in this way. I am open for
> comments and suggestions. So please let me know what to enhance.
> 
> Best regards,
> Mario
> 
> 
> 
> 2018-04-16 21:50 GMT+02:00 Dan Torop :
> 
> > Hi Mario,
> >
> > Thank you! You should also, certainly, chat with the darktable developers
> > (IRC?) before going too far. They've been clear in the past that they don't
> > want someone putting in lots of work on a feature if they don't think it'll
> > make it in, or make it in in the initial form. I'd be curious as to their
> > thoughts on how custom image sorting could work...
> >
> > Dan




Dan's advice to visit with the dev's on irc, #darktable, is "the right
thing".  they are readily accessible and amenable to suggestions and
requests.  and can tell you whether your changes will be considered,
before you invest a great deal of time and energy.  and perhaps stop you
from coming away with a "bad taste".

they are usually available in line with Germany time table.


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Re: [darktable-dev] darktable accessing lensfun issues

2018-04-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Daudi Amani  [04-18-18 12:21]:
> Issue: Darktable is not automatically recognizing lens and correcting.
> Further, DT doesn't show a list of possible lenses to choose from which is
> desirable when using a manual non-CPU lens.
> 
> Behavior:
> 1) each time an image is selected, DT shows (screenshot)
> 
> 2) when I click the down-triangle to the right of the lens, it immediately
> finds the correct lens (but still doesn't show me a list of all lenses like
> DT older versions used to do) (screenshot).
> 
> 3) then when I select the choice given, it fills out corrections:
> 
> 4) BUT, if I select a different image and then come back to this one, it no
> longer remembers the lens which I had selected and the entire process must
> be manually repeated. Of course, if I close DT, then reopen, it doesn't
> remember either.
> 
> 5) Never does it give me an option to view a list of all available lens
> choices.
> 
> 
> camera: I'm using a Nikon D5600 in RAW mode with one of three lens: Nikkor
> 18-55mm, Nikkor 55-200mm, legacy (non-CPU) Nikkor 135mm.
> 
> Darktable v2.4.2
> Lensfun 0.3.2
> OS: Ubuntu 16.04

did you try lensfun-update-data




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Re: [darktable-dev] darktable accessing lensfun issues

2018-04-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Daudi Amani  [04-18-18 22:43]:
> i installed lensfun-0.3.2 AFTER installing Darktable 2.4.2. I am able to
> verify the lens data if I select the lens ... unfortunately, Darktable is
> NOT providing any persistence to the selected lens. It should be
> remembering my lens choice in the .xmp file. Nor is Darktable supplying me
> a list of choices of lens. As the screenshot shows, I am only given ONE
> choice, which indeed is the lens designated in EXIF. However, in the case
> of a manual non-CPU lens, I am NOT given ANY choices.
> BTW: A careful reading of the reported issue will show that it not merely a
> lensfun data issue.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:29 AM Patrick Shanahan  wrote:
> 
> > * Daudi Amani  [04-18-18 12:21]:
> > > Issue: Darktable is not automatically recognizing lens and correcting.
> > > Further, DT doesn't show a list of possible lenses to choose from which
> > is
> > > desirable when using a manual non-CPU lens.
> > >
> > > Behavior:
> > > 1) each time an image is selected, DT shows (screenshot)
> > >
> > > 2) when I click the down-triangle to the right of the lens, it
> > immediately
> > > finds the correct lens (but still doesn't show me a list of all lenses
> > like
> > > DT older versions used to do) (screenshot).
> > >
> > > 3) then when I select the choice given, it fills out corrections:
> > >
> > > 4) BUT, if I select a different image and then come back to this one, it
> > no
> > > longer remembers the lens which I had selected and the entire process
> > must
> > > be manually repeated. Of course, if I close DT, then reopen, it doesn't
> > > remember either.
> > >
> > > 5) Never does it give me an option to view a list of all available lens
> > > choices.
> > >
> > >
> > > camera: I'm using a Nikon D5600 in RAW mode with one of three lens:
> > Nikkor
> > > 18-55mm, Nikkor 55-200mm, legacy (non-CPU) Nikkor 135mm.
> > >
> > > Darktable v2.4.2
> > > Lensfun 0.3.2
> > > OS: Ubuntu 16.04
> >
> > did you try lensfun-update-data
> >
> >
> >
> >
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you lense[s] is/are in the lensfun-data?

and you know that lensfun-update-data provides you newer lenses than the
install package?

and it's idenity matches exif data?

aiui, dt *only* uses the data available in the lensfun package.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Lens Correction

2018-04-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Maurizio Paglia  [04-24-18 13:55]:
> @ Frank
> Tested your solution but still does not work.
> Seems the only possibility is to downgrade lensfun from 0.3.2 to 0.3.1
> I already opened a bug issue with Leap developers that already asked for
> more information.
> 
> I will post further issue on the mailing list.
> Thank you for your kind effort.
> 
> Maurizio
> 
> 2018-04-24 19:23 GMT+02:00 Frank Huebner :
> 
> > Germano Massullo  writes:
> >
> > > Il 23/04/2018 18:28, Maurizio Paglia ha scritto:
> > >> Well, downgraded lensfun from 0.3.2 to 0.3.1 and now all works!
> > > You probably should tell darktable maintainer to rebuild darktable
> > > against new lensfun version
> >
> >
> > I guess I had the same problem - asked for help here but could not get
> > it. I figured out a workaround (opensuse leap, darktable 2.4.2, lensfun
> > 0.3.2):
> >
> > Install lensfun-tools
> >
> > run lensfun-update-data as normal user
> >
> > In my case lensfun-update-data saved the lensfun calibration data in
> > ~/.local/share/lensfun/updates/version_1
> >
> > Then I copied all *.xml files from
> > ~/.local/share/lensfun/updates/version_1 to ~/.local/share/lensfun
> >
> > After this, darktable recognized my camera and lenses again.
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> >
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why don't you just get darix' build?  it just works!
  
https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable:/master/openSUSE_Leap_15.0/x86_64/darktable-2.5.0~git333.1f26b4f44-lp150.209.1.x86_64.rpm

the url is long and a one liner
the dt version is master from git and frequently updated

you could also add his site as a repo and keep the latest installed:
  [graphics_darktable_master]
  name=Darktable-Org Master snapshots (openSUSE_Leap_15.0)
  type=rpm-md
  
baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable:/master/openSUSE_Leap_15.0/
  gpgcheck=1
  
gpgkey=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable:/master/openSUSE_Leap_15.0/repodata/repomd.xml.key
  enabled=1

I have been using his builds for several years now with few problems that
are quickly resolved when they happen.
  
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Re: [darktable-dev] Lens Correction

2018-04-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Maurizio Paglia  [04-24-18 16:29]:
> Is it a stable build?
> 
> Il mar 24 apr 2018, 20:06 Patrick Shanahan  ha scritto:
> 
> > * Maurizio Paglia  [04-24-18 13:55]:
> > > @ Frank
> > > Tested your solution but still does not work.
> > > Seems the only possibility is to downgrade lensfun from 0.3.2 to 0.3.1
> > > I already opened a bug issue with Leap developers that already asked for
> > > more information.
> > >
> > > I will post further issue on the mailing list.
> > > Thank you for your kind effort.
> > >
> > > Maurizio
> > >
> > > 2018-04-24 19:23 GMT+02:00 Frank Huebner :
> > >
> > > > Germano Massullo  writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Il 23/04/2018 18:28, Maurizio Paglia ha scritto:
> > > > >> Well, downgraded lensfun from 0.3.2 to 0.3.1 and now all works!
> > > > > You probably should tell darktable maintainer to rebuild darktable
> > > > > against new lensfun version
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I guess I had the same problem - asked for help here but could not get
> > > > it. I figured out a workaround (opensuse leap, darktable 2.4.2, lensfun
> > > > 0.3.2):
> > > >
> > > > Install lensfun-tools
> > > >
> > > > run lensfun-update-data as normal user
> > > >
> > > > In my case lensfun-update-data saved the lensfun calibration data in
> > > > ~/.local/share/lensfun/updates/version_1
> > > >
> > > > Then I copied all *.xml files from
> > > > ~/.local/share/lensfun/updates/version_1 to ~/.local/share/lensfun
> > > >
> > > > After this, darktable recognized my camera and lenses again.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps!
> > > >
> > > > 
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> > why don't you just get darix' build?  it just works!
> >
> > https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable:/master/openSUSE_Leap_15.0/x86_64/darktable-2.5.0~git333.1f26b4f44-lp150.209.1.x86_64.rpm
> >
> > the url is long and a one liner
> > the dt version is master from git and frequently updated
> >
> > you could also add his site as a repo and keep the latest installed:
> >   [graphics_darktable_master]
> >   name=Darktable-Org Master snapshots (openSUSE_Leap_15.0)
> >   type=rpm-md
> >   baseurl=
> > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable:/master/openSUSE_Leap_15.0/
> >   gpgcheck=1
> >   gpgkey=
> > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics:/darktable:/master/openSUSE_Leap_15.0/repodata/repomd.xml.key
> >   enabled=1
> >
> > I have been using his builds for several years now with few problems that
> > are quickly resolved when they happen.
> >
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the one I use is a development build but it has been stable for me.  darix
also provides a stable build, but you can find the repo setup for youself. 
and I wonder why you worry about a "stable" build, you are running Leap 15
which has not been released yet.  what is the difference?

I have been running the development build for production use for quite a
few years now, on Tumbleweed, with no downtime.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Idea: grouping effects together

2018-07-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Marek Jędrzejewski  [07-29-18 10:34]:
> I think it would be useful if there was an option to make a group with
> effect instances to allow for setting mixing for them together

have you looked at styles?

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Re: [darktable-dev] Version Color Problem

2018-08-06 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* David Vincent-Jones  [08-06-18 23:27]:
> darktable 2.5.0~git423.c2b643790-469.5
> 
> Colors gone crazy ... looks like red and blue somehow switched.
> 
> All images located in earlier folders show the same problem.
> 
> Raw files opened in digicam look correct, pictures opened in Geeqie or Gimp
> also OK.
> 
> Monitor is fine
> 
> Something very strange with this version

not evident on my opensuse tw 20180804
darktable-2.5.0~git423.c2b643790-282.1

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Re: [darktable-dev] support New nikon Z7

2018-09-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Luc Viatour  [09-11-18 12:11]:
> Hello,
> 
> Today I had a preview of the new Nikon Z7 in hand.
> I had the opportunity to do all the raw formats for a support in Darktable.
> I want to speed up the support for this box, but apparently
> https://raw.pixls.us/ is down.
> 
> How to have support for Nikon Z7 quickly in Darktable?

the maintainer has corrected the situation.  it is accessable now.

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Re: [darktable-dev] /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpthreads

2018-09-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Postmaster  [09-25-18 17:00]:
> 
> > make[1]: Entering directory 
> > '/home/Photographer/Devel/DarkTable/darktable/CMakeFiles/CMakeTmp'
> > Building C object CMakeFiles/cmTC_153d8.dir/CheckFunctionExists.c.o
> > /usr/bin/cc   -w -DCHECK_FUNCTION_EXISTS=pthread_create -fPIE   -o 
> > CMakeFiles/cmTC_153d8.dir/CheckFunctionExists.c.o   -c 
> > /usr/share/cmake/Modules/CheckFunctionExists.c
> > Linking C executable cmTC_153d8
> > /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/cmTC_153d8.dir/link.txt 
> > --verbose=1
> > /usr/bin/cc  -w -DCHECK_FUNCTION_EXISTS=pthread_create-rdynamic 
> > CMakeFiles/cmTC_153d8.dir/CheckFunctionExists.c.o  -o cmTC_153d8 -lpthreads
> > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpthreads
> > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> 
> on my redhat system there does not appear to be a libpthreads.so, file
> around. It seems to being obsoletted in favor of libpthread ( note the
> missing tailing s )
> 
> Any hints at what is going on?

no libpthreads.so... on my opensuse system either:
  /lib64/libpthread-2.27.so
  /lib64/libpthread.so.0
  

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Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Colour Matrix for Canon EOS M3

2018-10-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Andreas Schneider  [10-09-18 02:16]:
> On Monday, 8 October 2018 17:02:11 CEST openhab.doc wrote:
> > Hello Andreas,
> 
> Hi Pierre,
> 
> > While working into the topic and the resulting intensive reading of the
> > article, I noticed a few things that can be described more closely. Here I
> > will send you more information, which you can take into account when
> > revising the article.
> 
> Suggestions are always welcome. I haven't had the time to update the article 
> yet. But you need to check for glare when you start shooting the target in 
> direct sunlight.
> 
> Attached are 3 pictures. The first shows you how bad glare can be, the third 
> what you need to aim for. Maybe defocusing a bit could help to make it 
> smoother once you have no glare, haven't tried that yet.
> 

please consider putting photos on a sharing service or temp download
service rather than sending to everyone one the list.


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Re: [darktable-dev] Support

2018-10-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Iaron Barbosa  [10-19-18 16:56]:
> I'm with problems on darktable. The program it's closing. Can you help me?

not without a rather full description of the problem, operating system,
version numbers and what conditions present the problem.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Compile error: rawspeed/src/librawspeed/common/Common.h:87:1: error: body of ‘constexpr’ function

2018-10-31 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Postmaster  [10-31-18 15:22]:
> not a cc maven.
> So what is wrong?
> Also dont remember origin of source, but from darktable website ( not redhat
> )
> 
> Its not so easy to make this work. cmake seems to be an issue. Just trying
> to register with cmake-devel is a problem, as the host of cmake uses Google
> captcha, which appears to violate your privacy, according to mozilla. Tried
> to, inform those folks, but she says that its not our problem, as it does
> not happen here. Sent them a copy of the web page. is so much :(
> There is no pdf manual for cmake. I have limited internet access. Yet
> someone seems to have embraced cmake, and disappeared? anyone know of a
> off-line manual?
> 
> 
> 
> > [ 22%] Building C object 
> > src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/control/jobs/film_jobs.c.o
> > [ 22%] Building C object 
> > src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/control/progress.c.o
> > In file included from 
> > /home/Photographer/Devel/DarkTable/darktable/src/external/rawspeed/src/librawspeed/RawSpeed-API.h:28,
> >  from 
> > /home/Photographer/Devel/DarkTable/darktable/src/common/imageio_rawspeed.cc:23:
> > /home/Photographer/Devel/DarkTable/darktable/src/external/rawspeed/src/librawspeed/common/Common.h:
> >  In function ‘constexpr size_t rawspeed::roundToMultiple(size_t, size_t, 
> > bool)’:
> > /home/Photographer/Devel/DarkTable/darktable/src/external/rawspeed/src/librawspeed/common/Common.h:87:1:
> >  error: body of ‘constexpr’ function ‘constexpr size_t 
> > rawspeed::roundToMultiple(size_t, size_t, bool)’ not a return-statement
> >  }
> >  ^
> > gmake[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/build.make:545: 
> > src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/common/imageio_rawspeed.cc.o] Error 1
> > gmake[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> > [ 22%] Built target darktable-rs-identify
> > gmake[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:1437: 
> > src/CMakeFiles/lib_darktable.dir/all] Error 2
> > gmake: *** [Makefile:152: all] Error 2
> 
> 
> > [asus-gatworks-com ~]$ gcc -v
> > Using built-in specs.
> > COLLECT_GCC=gcc
> > COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/8/lto-wrapper
> > OFFLOAD_TARGET_NAMES=nvptx-none
> > OFFLOAD_TARGET_DEFAULT=1
> > Target: x86_64-redhat-linux
> > Configured with: ../configure --enable-bootstrap 
> > --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,ada,go,lto --prefix=/usr 
> > --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info 
> > --with-bugurl=http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla --enable-shared 
> > --enable-threads=posix --enable-checking=release --enable-multilib 
> > --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions 
> > --enable-gnu-unique-object --enable-linker-build-id 
> > --with-gcc-major-version-only --with-linker-hash-style=gnu --enable-plugin 
> > --enable-initfini-array --with-isl --enable-libmpx 
> > --enable-offload-targets=nvptx-none --without-cuda-driver 
> > --enable-gnu-indirect-function --enable-cet --with-tune=generic 
> > --with-arch_32=i686 --build=x86_64-redhat-linux
> > Thread model: posix
> > gcc version 8.1.1 20180712 (Red Hat 8.1.1-5) (GCC)
> ===
> > [asus-gatworks-com ~]$ g++ -v
> > Using built-in specs.
> > COLLECT_GCC=g++
> > COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/8/lto-wrapper
> > OFFLOAD_TARGET_NAMES=nvptx-none
> > OFFLOAD_TARGET_DEFAULT=1
> > Target: x86_64-redhat-linux
> > Configured with: ../configure --enable-bootstrap 
> > --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,ada,go,lto --prefix=/usr 
> > --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info 
> > --with-bugurl=http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla --enable-shared 
> > --enable-threads=posix --enable-checking=release --enable-multilib 
> > --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions 
> > --enable-gnu-unique-object --enable-linker-build-id 
> > --with-gcc-major-version-only --with-linker-hash-style=gnu --enable-plugin 
> > --enable-initfini-array --with-isl --enable-libmpx 
> > --enable-offload-targets=nvptx-none --without-cuda-driver 
> > --enable-gnu-indirect-function --enable-cet --with-tune=generic 
> > --with-arch_32=i686 --build=x86_64-redhat-linux
> > Thread model: posix
> > gcc version 8.1.1 20180712 (Red Hat 8.1.1-5) (GCC) [asus-gatworks-com
> > ~]$


  https://www.darktable.org/install/#rhel
  
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Re: [darktable-dev] Mismatched selection when going forward in Darkroom mode

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Shapranov Vladimir  [11-03-18 13:40]:
> Hi,
> 
> There is a pretty annoying bug popping up from time to time when using 
> Darkroom screen. Sometimes after going to the next image (space bar) it shows 
> one photo in the main view, but the next one is selected in the film roll.
> As the result, the rating hotkey affects the next image and not the one 
> you're looking at.
> 
> Reproduction:
> 1. Load a bunch of images, double click on the first one to go to darkroom 
> screen.
> 2. Keep pressing space until you see two highlighted photos in the film roll 
> (like in the attached screenshot).
> 3. Set a rating or reject flag
> 
> Expected:
> Rating is set for the photo you see in the big preview.
> 
> Actual:
> Rating is set for the next one in the film roll.
> 
> Some extra notes:
>  - Reproduces every 1-10 "space" presses for me (on osX). Also happens when 
> going backwards (with backspace)
>  - Happens only if you press space bar before the photo finished loading 
> (while "working..." is drawn on top of the preview)

appears you mouse pointer is above the right side thumb and the left side
thumb is actually selected.  applying a rating or reject will operate on
the thumb where the mouse pointer is unless the mouse pointer is off the
image/film-roll area.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Mismatched selection when going forward in Darkroom mode

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Shapranov Vladimir  [11-03-18 14:13]:
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Nope, not in this case. I just reproduced it while keeping mouse right in the 
> center of "the big preview" (i.e. not over the film roll).
> 
> The wrongly selected next image is highlighted in the same way as if mouse 
> was over it though.
> 
> PS:
> Offtopic, but this hover-to-rate-something-else thing is a bit weird IMO.
> When you're doing keyboard-only pre-selection of photos ("space, r, space, r, 
> space, 2, ...") you can accidentally kick your mouse to the film roll and get 
> some unexpected results.
> 
> 
> On 03.11.18 18:58, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Shapranov Vladimir  [11-03-18 13:40]:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> There is a pretty annoying bug popping up from time to time when using 
> >> Darkroom screen. Sometimes after going to the next image (space bar) it 
> >> shows one photo in the main view, but the next one is selected in the film 
> >> roll.
> >> As the result, the rating hotkey affects the next image and not the one 
> >> you're looking at.
> >>
> >> Reproduction:
> >> 1. Load a bunch of images, double click on the first one to go to darkroom 
> >> screen.
> >> 2. Keep pressing space until you see two highlighted photos in the film 
> >> roll (like in the attached screenshot).
> >> 3. Set a rating or reject flag
> >>
> >> Expected:
> >> Rating is set for the photo you see in the big preview.
> >>
> >> Actual:
> >> Rating is set for the next one in the film roll.
> >>
> >> Some extra notes:
> >>  - Reproduces every 1-10 "space" presses for me (on osX). Also happens 
> >> when going backwards (with backspace)
> >>  - Happens only if you press space bar before the photo finished loading 
> >> (while "working..." is drawn on top of the preview)
> > 
> > appears you mouse pointer is above the right side thumb and the left side
> > thumb is actually selected.  applying a rating or reject will operate on
> > the thumb where the mouse pointer is unless the mouse pointer is off the
> > image/film-roll area.

bug report or didn't happen

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Re: [darktable-dev] noise

2018-11-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
; >>>>> > DT gives unacceptable result. I've tried to pop this theme up year by
> >>>>> > year - without any success.
> >>>>> > DT is a great tool, you are men.. but! One of the most fundamental
> >>>>> > functions is useless compared to opensource competitor (!).
> >>>>> > DT's target audience are bachelors of mathematics with cameras (for a
> >>>>> > while).
> >>>>> > I will pray for you to get DT close to regular users.
> >>>>> > Thanks for feedback. And sorry for my english.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > сб, 3 нояб. 2018 г. в 21:05, William Ferguson  >>>>> > <mailto:wpfergu...@gmail.com>>:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Try this...
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > To add the styles to darktable - save the styles, then in
> >>>>> lighttable
> >>>>> > mode open the styles dialog and click import, select the files,
> >>>>> then
> >>>>> > import them.  Each one is standalone, so if you start with 1 and
> >>>>> > it's not enough then you try 2, 2 will overwrite 1.  The higher
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> > number the stronger the settings and I add more modules.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Hope this helps,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Bill
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 12:59 PM Andrey L  >>>>> > <mailto:parihaar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Hello, guys. Canon DPP makes me crazy, but DT is unable
> >>>>> > to compete with neither Canon DPP, nor RawTherapee :(
> >>>>> > Could you please pay some attention to DarkTable's noise
> >>>>> removal
> >>>>> > opportunities?
> >>>>> > I have to spend senconds with Canon DPP to suppress noise on
> >>>>> > high-iso image,
> >>>>> > I need minutes to get a good result in RawThrerapee, but
> >>>>> nobody
> >>>>> > can spend hours
> >>>>> > to make bad result with tons of noise reduction tools.
> >>>>> Please,
> >>>>> > break the last barrier to DT :`|
> >>>>> > Here my example:
> >>>>> > original image:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNMnJlTzgwcHZOdTA
> >>>>> > canon dpp:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNc1RoWW9kN3d3V0k
> >>>>> > rawtherapee:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz9fwFLCJOjNNnZWNjVSYXhaX28
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > The best efforts In general lead to green noise on barbells.
> >>>>> > It's too complex problem for regular photographer.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>  
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Noise Reduction is just another word for Image Destruction.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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perhaps because you do not determine the ORDER the change is applied, only
the change within a module.  ORDER that modules are applied is static, set
in concrete.  and changing parameters in a module that is earlier applied
probably affects change in modules appearing/applied later.


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Re: [darktable-dev] Re: feature freeze

2018-11-15 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Pascal Obry  [11-15-18 12:51]:
> Le jeudi 15 novembre 2018 à 18:36 +0100, Pascal Obry a écrit :
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > The feature freeze is effective since yesterday Nov 14th. So no more
> > new feature can be integrated into darktable at this stage.

 had segfault:  https://www.darktable.org/redmine/issues/12409
 
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Re: [darktable-dev] Feature request: Warning for keyboard shortcut collisions

2018-11-23 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Hobbes Pirakitti  [11-23-18 17:49]:
> Hi! I am a new darktable user, and I'm exploring how darktable can fit into
> my raw processing workflow.  I like the ability to set up shortcuts.  One
> feature request I have regarding shortcuts is that I would like darktable
> to pop up a warning if the shortcut I am trying to assign is already
> taken.  Is this is right place to make this request?

  https://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/issues/new

is where the dev's track.
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Re: [darktable-dev] Possible bug in master: Missing buttons in lighttable

2018-12-01 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Matej Martinovic  [12-01-18 15:11]:
> Hello,
> 
> am I the only one missing some buttons in lighttable mode with the
> current master?
> There's no settings button, no grouping and no selection of rating...
> 
> I'm using master (d25c659) through darix's package on fedora 29 with KDE.

perhaps, openSUSE Tumbleweed kde/plasma5
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Re: [darktable-dev] Possible bug in master: Missing buttons in lighttable

2018-12-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Matej Martinovic  [12-02-18 07:22]:
> Ah that was probably it!
> 
> BR
> Matej
> 
> 
> Am So., 2. Dez. 2018 um 11:15 Uhr schrieb Sam :
> >
> > Clicking the little white triangle at the top of the screen will show/hide 
> > those options.
> >
> > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 09:13, Matej Martinovic  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, solved. Deleting darktablerc solved the problem. I have a
> >> feeling that it had something to do with my locale settings (I was
> >> messing around with them a few days ago), as darktable started with a
> >> different language after deleting darktablerc.
> >>
> >> BR
> >> Matej
> >> Am Sa., 1. Dez. 2018 um 22:39 Uhr schrieb Patrick Shanahan 
> >> :
> >> >
> >> > * Matej Martinovic  [12-01-18 15:11]:
> >> > > Hello,
> >> > >
> >> > > am I the only one missing some buttons in lighttable mode with the
> >> > > current master?
> >> > > There's no settings button, no grouping and no selection of rating...
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm using master (d25c659) through darix's package on fedora 29 with 
> >> > > KDE.
> >> >
> >> > perhaps, openSUSE Tumbleweed kde/plasma5
> >> >   http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20181201_163115.png
> >> >
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but...  iirc, you didn't have the "little white triangle" displayed at the
top of screen.  notice it was visible on my example.  

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Re: [darktable-dev] minor issues in git master (and probably in rc0 too)

2018-12-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Pascal Obry  [12-04-18 17:26]:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > the next dt release is already at the horizon.  Thus I had a look at 
> > current git master.  I just observed just two minor issues:
> > 
> > * I have no clue how the new feature to rename module instances works. 
> > Clicking on "rename" nothing happens.  I expected that some kind of 
> > dialogue appears to enter a new name.
> 
> Indeed, there was already some report. What desktop environment are you
> using? I'm using GNOME Shell and no issue on my side. We need to
> understand what trigger this.

yes, using kde/plasma5 I don't even see the option to "rename" a module.
git master 13aa37e80
 
> > * The UI of the filmic module has the rather unusual feature that the 
> > module section name "destination/display" does not cover the whole width 
> > of the module panel as there is an additional UI element, which allows 
> > to hide parts of the filmic controls.  This is inconsistent with all 
> > other modules.
> 
> I have done that recently maybe I misunderstand what the UI looks like
> on your side. Can you share a screen shot.
>  
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Re: [darktable-dev] Feature request

2018-12-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Mark Feit  [12-12-18 09:36]:
> On 12/11/18 10:07 PM, Terry Duell wrote:
> > 
> > The requirement for uncropped images seriously complicates the task if
> > using darktable-cli.
> > The request is to have a 'crop=0' switch (or similar) for
> > darktable-cli...if that is possible, and reasonable.
> 
> That would start a trend of having to propagate a lot of switches out to
> darktable-cli, which wouldn't end well.  Everything needed to bend darktable
> to your will is already in the sidecar (XMP) file that goes with each
> image.  What's missing is an alternate sidecar with the cropping turned off
> that could be handed to darktable-cli.
> 
> I did the following manually for a single image and it produced the right
> thing:
> 
> 1.  Make a copy of the image's sidecar file (cp image.nef.xmp
> image.nef.xmp-nocrop).
> 
> 2.  Edit the copy (vi image.nef.xmp-nocrop), locate all of the rdf:li items
> where darktable:operation is "clipping" and change darktable:enabled to
> "0".  This process can be automated with xsltproc or XMLStarlet.  The latter
> is available on all three of the platforms where darktable is supported. 
> (You could probably get away with some sneaky sed-based tricks, but I don't
> recommend that because the arrangement of the XML shouldn't be considered
> stable.  Use the right tool for the job.)
> 
> 3.  Run darktable-cli against the image and edited XMP to produce an
> uncropped version of the image (darktable-cli image.nef image.nef.xmp-nocrop
> image-uncropped.jpg).
> 
> 4.  Harvest the uncropped image for distribution and remove it and the
> edited sidecar if you don't want to keep them around.
> 
> 
> Turning it into a shell script that can operate against any set of files you
> choose should be an easy exercise.  (It's an interesting enough problem that
> I might do it myself.)

and I believe that was more or less the first suggestion given.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Different converted JPG in Win and Linux

2019-01-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Juha Lintula  [01-07-19 15:14]:
> Hi!
> 
> Has anyone else noticed the same or am I alone with the strange behaviour?
> 
> -Juha
> 
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 23:04, Juha Lintula  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I get different results, when applying the same tool stack in Windows and
> > Linux. The image generated in Windows looks like washed out. I noticed the
> > same difference already in 2.4.4 and it's still there in 2.6.0-rc2. Also
> > when I'm editing sometimes the image looks like Windows version and
> > sometimes like the Linux version, depending which tool is active. Is there
> > something different in my Windows and Linux settings?
> >
> > I have uploaded an example in my Dropbox (
> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5mmmob7n9tk75qf/AAB9iLu5v0hqm_UxxfW3DXApa?dl=0).
> > There is the RAW file, xmp file and JPGs generated in Windows
> > (PC081245B.jpg) and Linux (PC081245C.jpg).
> >
> > Regards
> > -Juha Lintula
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are the xmp files exactly the same?

remove the file from each library.db, then import each file with the
accompanying xmp file and export each.  are they the same?


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Re: [darktable-dev] Re: Different converted JPG in Win and Linux

2019-01-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Bob Tregilus  [01-07-19 21:55]:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I get different results, when applying the same tool stack in Windows
> >>>> and
> >>>> Linux. The image generated in Windows looks like washed out. I noticed
> >>>> the
> >>>> same difference already in 2.4.4 and it's still there in 2.6.0-rc2.
> >>>> Also
> >>>> when I'm editing sometimes the image looks like Windows version and
> >>>> sometimes like the Linux version, depending which tool is active. Is
> >>>> there
> >>>> something different in my Windows and Linux settings?
> >>>>
> >>>> I have uploaded an example in my Dropbox (
> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5mmmob7n9tk75qf/AAB9iLu5v0hqm_UxxfW3DXApa?dl=0).
> >>>> There is the RAW file, xmp file and JPGs generated in Windows
> >>>> (PC081245B.jpg) and Linux (PC081245C.jpg).
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> -Juha Lintula
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> >> are the xmp files exactly the same?
> >>
> >> remove the file from each library.db, then import each file with the
> >> accompanying xmp file and export each.  are they the same?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > I exported the image under Linux (2.4.4) and Windows7 (2.6.0). The
> > images are almost identical (same color) and look like your Linux version.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Holger
> >
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> That would suggest to me that Juha's monitor isn't calibrated the same
> under both operating systems.


perhaps, but how to account for the difference not being observed for all
images, only some?


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Re: [darktable-dev] DT 2.6 crash by aspect ratio

2019-01-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Holger Klemm  [01-13-19 10:02]:
> Hallo,
> it is posible to crash dt 2.6. with the aspect ratio filter.
> Have a look at the attechment.

Please be a little more considerate, some are still on measured service. 
upload large files or images to a hosting service or host them on your own
machine and provide a link so those interested may view.

Presently working a group of 1058 sorted by filename with filename
adjusted to be chronological.  Changed sort to "aspect ratio" and waited. 
Took quite some time on this i7-12 core machine but succeeded w/o crash. 
Returning sort to filename was nearly instantaneous.

Perhaps you have a local problem or your build was faulty.  You did not
give much indication of your conditions.

openSUSE Tumbleweed kde/plasma5
darktable-2.7.0~git194.16e3c7ab2-812.1.x86_64 (darix' builds)

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Re: [darktable-dev] filmic crashing dt

2019-01-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* David Vincent-Jones  [01-27-19 20:54]:
> darktable 2.7.0+338~g5b7dd1909
> 
> Just started today  any use of filmic crashes dt

same build on openSUSE Tumbleweed.  don't have a problem.

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Re: [darktable-dev] JPG .. spot removal .. !!

2019-02-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* David Vincent-Jones  [02-09-19 00:06]:
> I realize after I had done it that spot-removal should not be used on a JPG
> file. The result was a nasty dt crash. It might be a good idea at some point
> to simply not allow some modules to be used with JPG files.

I don't have that problem with d05d8d6a1 from git on openSUSE.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Camera support in latest stable release

2019-02-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Dave  [02-18-19 14:38]:
> [My previous reply, repeated below, seems not to have made it to the list,
> apologies for the delay]
> 
> Yes, I tried turning on the Denoise (Profiled) module and it detects the
> camera/lens and ISO but it doesn't significantly reduce the noise, if at
> all.

there is a slider to increase/decrease the *strength*

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Re: [darktable-dev] Scrolling with mouse wheel

2019-02-21 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Christian  [02-21-19 14:36]:
> Hi,
> is there an option / setting to get the following behaviour:
> 
> - Scroll the darktable module-panel with mouse wheel not only when
>   the mouse is pointing on the small scrolling handle?
> 
> - Disable that sliders can be moved by mouse wheel, or only
>   if a modifier like CTRL is pressed simultaniously.
> 
> So, I would love to move the right side panel up/down with the wheel
> without accidentely changing the parameters.

or either when positioned in the respective sidepanel real-estate

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Re: [darktable-dev] Lens correction with FF lenses used on APS-C

2019-02-23 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Florian W  [02-23-19 10:37]:
> Thanks for your answers guys.
> 
> Simon, I'm curious to know why to you it's not the best idea ?
> 
> 
> Le sam. 23 févr. 2019 16:19, Sturm Flut  a écrit :
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > it does, as long as lensfun can find the lens in its database. I've been
> > using full-frame-only lenses on both my Nikon D750 (full-frame) and
> > D7100 (APS-C) for years.
> >
> > (It's not the best idea, though, so I'm about to replace the D7100 with
> > a second full-frame body).
> >
> > cheers,
> > Simon
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 23.02.19 um 14:42 schrieb Florian W:
> > > Hi,
> > > I happen to use on my Canon 750D (APC-C) 2 lenses designed for full
> > > frame (Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 STM and Canon EF 28mm f/2.8 IS USM)
> > > I wondered if the lens correction module takes into account that the
> > > camera is full frame or APS-C to apply the proper correction ?
> > >
> > > Can someone tell me ?


also curious as I have for years used both full-frame and aps lenses on my
present D850, D7200 and D500 and previously D70, D3, D200 and D7100 and
not noticed any abnormality.

but adding a 1.3x extension on my v1 70-200 f/2.4 does lack clarity and
more so on the D850.

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Re: [darktable-dev] JPG compression

2019-02-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* David Vincent-Jones  [02-26-19 18:46]:
> After exporting to JPG format (95%) on the desktop at full (0,0) resolution,
> when I later export to email at lower (1500,1500) res. the compression does
> not change and I get a very large Mb. size output.
> 
> In order to get the correct email output I need to export to the desktop at
> a lower size and then go back to email export.
> 
> This has been an ongoing problem for some time.
> 
> darktable 2.7.0+497~g38a7407bb ... Manjaro with Arch Repos.

you should file a bug report on redman

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Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Pushing ISO (ISO invarience)

2019-03-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jason Polak  [03-02-19 11:03]:
> Going to have to disagree with that, and I think at least some of it is
> what you used first. I actually tried darktable before Lightroom and
> just by clicking around I found darktable pretty intuitive. Trying to do
> the same in Lightroom was confusing after that.
> 
> Jason
> 
> On 2/3/19 9:19 am, Moritz Mœller wrote:
> > I'm not surprised by the comment. DT's UI isn't intuitive.
> > If you are a person that learns a software by using it/trial & error
> > instead of reading the manual, your experience will be pretty unfavorable.
> > 
> > I haven't watched the video but from the comments here it seens it's
> > about features, not UX. So it's still unfair of them to not RTFM and
> > give DT a worse score thus.

meee222

I moved to darktable from bibble5 and the interface seemed quite similar.

fwiw: all software has it's own ideal about what a user expects one can
seldom move from one application to another similar w/o having to learn
the new UI.  NONE is standard.

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Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Pushing ISO (ISO invarience)

2019-03-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Moritz Mœller  [03-02-19 15:59]:
> And how are you representative as a user? What's the relevance of your
> experience in the context of what I said?
> 
> I have no problem with DT's UI but I'm a professional VFX artist and
> software engineer. My DT UX is zero representative for this reason and for
> the most obvious one: I'm just a single person. Sample size one.
> 
> Beers,
> 
> .mm
> 
> On March 2, 2019 17:03:45 Jason Polak  wrote:
> 
> > Going to have to disagree with that, and I think at least some of it is
> > what you used first. I actually tried darktable before Lightroom and
> > just by clicking around I found darktable pretty intuitive. Trying to do
> > the same in Lightroom was confusing after that.
> > 
> > Jason
> > 
> > On 2/3/19 9:19 am, Moritz Mœller wrote:
> > > I'm not surprised by the comment. DT's UI isn't intuitive.
> > > If you are a person that learns a software by using it/trial & error
> > > instead of reading the manual, your experience will be pretty unfavorable.
> > > 
> > > I haven't watched the video but from the comments here it seens it's
> > > about features, not UX. So it's still unfair of them to not RTFM and
> > > give DT a worse score thus.
> > > 
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thanks, had several Dos Equis XXs at lunch.  

I had trouble learning Bibble but needed software for developing raw
images on linux and at that time Bibble was probably as good as what was
available.  so I learned bibble.  Corel raped bibble so I changed horses. 
darktable was quite new and similar and was an easy adaption.

so far as being intuitive, dt was an easy learn from bibble.  afa my
experience, I am what I am and said what I feel.  I is singular and only
representative of my feelings.  I speak for no one except myself.

afa you being "professional", I have been paid for work and hired to work. 
I had the same job for 40+years and was "considered" a professional.  but
the definition of professional is quite liberal and does not really define
one.

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Re: [darktable-dev] darktable font

2019-03-06 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Bruce Williams  [01-01-70 12:34]:
> Hi devs,
> Does anyone know what this font is called? And where I might get find a
> copy of the .ttf or .otf file?
> Wouldn't mind using it for my youtube channel, just to keep the brand
> consistent.
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: [darktable-dev] OpenCL on Windows7

2019-03-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Christian  [03-09-19 11:28]:
> Sooo, no change in 2.6.1. Intel HD 4000 seems blacklisted.
> 
> Anyways, can I improve DT startup time by setting opencl=FALSE
> in appdata\local\darktable\darktablerc?
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> Am 06.03.2019 um 10:27 schrieb Christian:
> > Hi,
> > so I will re-test with 2.6.1.
> > 
> > Is it true, that DT has a blacklist for some GPUs which are too slow?

why don't you try it and see?

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Re: [darktable-dev] Duplicate manager deletes all versions?

2019-03-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* KOVÁCS István  [03-10-19 08:46]:
> Hi,
> 
> Sometimes (I have been unable to find out under what circumstances)
> clicking [x] in the duplicate manager deletes all versions of the
> file. Here's a screenshot; if I clicked 'Yes', it'd actually remove
> the raw file and all three sidecars.
> https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Darktable-issues/Misc/i-DKLDZbR/1/1b2eb603/O/Screenshot%20from%202019-03-10%2013-27-13.png
> 
> While the behaviour of the [x] is not documented in the manual, I
> don't think that's how it's supposed to work.
> Redmine: https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/12623

I cannot duplicate your problem.  I cannot even delete one or more of the
duplicate images while in darkroom mode in the duplicate manager or not
nor can I select more that one duplicate image at a time.  I can select
multiple images in the film strip but cannot delete them

openSUSE Tumbleweed current
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Re: [darktable-dev] Duplicate manager deletes all versions?

2019-03-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* KOVÁCS István  [03-10-19 11:05]:
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 14:48, Patrick Shanahan  wrote:
> > > Sometimes (I have been unable to find out under what circumstances)
> > > clicking [x] in the duplicate manager deletes all versions of the
> > > file.
> > > Redmine: https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/12623
> >
> > I cannot duplicate your problem.  I cannot even delete one or more of the
> > duplicate images while in darkroom mode in the duplicate manager or not
> > nor can I select more that one duplicate image at a time.  I can select
> > multiple images in the film strip but cannot delete them
> 
> Figured it out: it happens if grouping is turned on (which I never
> use, I have no idea how I managed to activate it). Updating the
> redmine ticket.

but I have grouping turned on.

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Re: [darktable-dev] darktable from current git doesn't response after database conversion

2019-03-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alexander Rabtchevich  [03-10-19 13:55]:
> So, modification of the source file hadn't help - there is no error
> messages, but also no working program.
> 
> Starting program: /opt/darktable/bin/darktable
> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".
> [New Thread 0x7fffe141d700 (LWP 5086)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffe0c1c700 (LWP 5087)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffdbfff700 (LWP 5088)]
> [lcms2] error 11: not an ICC profile, invalid signature
> [init] moving database into new XDG directory structure
> [Thread 0x7fffe0c1c700 (LWP 5087) exited]
> [New Thread 0x7fffe0c1c700 (LWP 5090)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffdab50700 (LWP 5091)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffda34f700 (LWP 5092)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffd9b4e700 (LWP 5093)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffd934d700 (LWP 5094)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffd8154700 (LWP 5095)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffc5286700 (LWP 5096)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffba420700 (LWP 5097)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffb9c1f700 (LWP 5098)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffb941e700 (LWP 5099)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffb8c1d700 (LWP 5100)]
> [New Thread 0x7fffb1193700 (LWP 5101)]
> [Thread 0x7fffc5286700 (LWP 5096) exited]
> 
> 
> With respect,
> Alexander Rabtchevich
> 
> Edgardo Hoszowski wrote:
> > This has probably nothing to do with performance, but this errors are
> > saying that an iop_order must be defined for some iop:
> > 
> > operation anlfyeni with no iop_order while upgrading database
> > 
> > you have to add it in the right order somewhere here:
> > 
> > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/blob/master/src/common/iop_order.c#L126
> > 
> > This is the equivalent of the iop_dependencies.py
> > 
> > 
> > El dom., 10 mar. 2019 a las 8:29, Alexander Rabtchevich
> > ( > <mailto:alexander.v.rabtchev...@gmx.net>>) escribió:
> > 
> > Hello
> > 
> > Darktable doesn't run (doesn't show lightroom). After saying "yes" to
> > database conversion, the library.db time canges for sometime and
> > after
> > showing GUI frame nothing happens. gdb shows no errors. The state
> > in the
> > system monitor is "waiting" with no processor consumption. How
> > long it
> > can take darktabe to run? The size of the library.db is 1.8 GB.
> > 
> > [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> > Using host libthread_db library
> > "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".
> > [New Thread 0x7fffe141d700 (LWP 28175)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffe0c1c700 (LWP 28176)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffdbfff700 (LWP 28177)]
> > [lcms2] error 11: not an ICC profile, invalid signature
> > [init] moving database into new XDG directory structure
> > [Thread 0x7fffe0c1c700 (LWP 28176) exited]
> > operation rawimport with no iop_order while upgrading database
> > operation anlfyeni with no iop_order while upgrading database
> > operation reinhard05 with no iop_order while upgrading database
> > [New Thread 0x7fffe0c1c700 (LWP 28200)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffdab50700 (LWP 28201)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffda34f700 (LWP 28202)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffd9b4e700 (LWP 28203)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffd934d700 (LWP 28204)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffd8154700 (LWP 28205)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffc5286700 (LWP 28206)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffba420700 (LWP 28207)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffb9c1f700 (LWP 28208)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffb941e700 (LWP 28209)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffb8c1d700 (LWP 28210)]
> > [New Thread 0x7fffb1193700 (LWP 28211)]
> > [Thread 0x7fffc5286700 (LWP 28206) exited]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > With respect,
> > Alexander Rabtchevich
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Re: [darktable-dev] Duplicate manager deletes all versions?

2019-03-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* KOVÁCS István  [03-10-19 16:09]:
> > > nor can I select more that one duplicate image at a time.
> 
> NB: I'm not *selecting* anything. I click the x next to one of the
> duplicates. As shown on the screenshot, a popup appears, asking
> whether to delete N files, where N is the number of versions
> (duplicates).
> This is what I do:
> https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Darktable-issues/Misc/i-p5Q5Q2f/0/28be94a3/O/screencapture.gif

as I said, I do not see that.  I cannot delete files within darkroom mode 
or within duplicate module, selected or not.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Duplicate manager deletes all versions?

2019-03-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* KOVÁCS István  [03-10-19 17:46]:
> Patrick,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. I'm trying to understand what's going on -
> please see below.
> 
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 22:20, Patrick Shanahan  wrote:
> > as I said, I do not see that.  I cannot delete files within darkroom mode
> > or within duplicate module, selected or not.
> 
> Do you mean there's no x next to the versions, as depicted here?
> https://www.darktable.org/2018/12/darktable-26/ -> Duplicate manager
> in darkroom
> Or there's an x, but it never deletes the photo, just the XMP, and it
> removes one version of the photo's development history?

sorry, I do have and I completely missed that.  I was believing the "x"
character keystroke, not the on-screen x.

I can delete individual images within the dup manager but only one at a
time, see:
  http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20190310_191624.png

I see no way to select more than one duplicate image within the manager.
  
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Re: [darktable-dev] ATTENTION: darktable master may go unstable.

2019-03-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Heiko Bauke  [03-11-19 17:21]:
> Hi,
> 
> Am 07.03.19 um 21:47 schrieb Pascal Obry:
> > - the possibility to have custom module order (with drag & drop)
> 
> what great news!
> 
> As I see, the custom ordering rendered the "priority" field in
> dt_iop_module_t obsolete.  Therefore, I wonder what determines the modules'
> default position in the pixel pipe now?

aiui, the order in the pipe has not changed, is hard coded.  only the
displayed order is changeable.  in fact, there exists scripts to save
different orders (for displaying) or to reset to display the pipe order.

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Re: [darktable-dev] darktable from current git doesn't response after database conversion

2019-03-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Heiko Bauke  [03-11-19 20:21]:
 [...]
> Regarding the custom module, I am on my own of course.  However, I
> wonder: does the database conversion require that users migrate from
> 2.6.1 when 2.8 will be released?

aiui: the database is updated with *each* newer version.

but you do not have to "migrate", upgrade.  if you upgrade *usually* your
database is not backward compatable, ie: you do not want to "downgrade".


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Re: [darktable-dev] [PATCH] Image collection: added second order sorting

2019-03-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Robert Rembold  [03-13-19 17:39]:
> Hi all,
> please find updated patch for second order sorting for image collection
> enclosed. It supports 'new' sorting criteria which were introduced since I
> provided it first time in 2017. Additionally some minor improvements/fixes
> went in.
> 
> I'm looking forward someone takes this patch over to darktable master.
> Thanks!
> >  - Example1: sort by GROUP, RATING
> >  - Example2: sort by COLOR, RATING
> > 
> > Hopefully, this is not yet implemented somewhere in parallel ;)

you will probably get quicker recognition and resolution if you report the
issue @ https://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/issues
and include your patch

maybe also referenct your post.

tks,

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Re: [darktable-dev] list of styles in Windows 10 not scrolling

2019-03-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Antonio Trincone  [03-27-19 02:50]:
> I recently installed DT 2.61 and 2.62 on Windows 10 and all work well but
> one thing the long list of styles when one have to choose it is not
> scrolling. No problem was present in 2.6.0 and re-installing back it all
> work flawlessly
> Thanks
> Antonio

to report issues with darktable:
  https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable
  
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Re: [darktable-dev] do not use dt 2.7

2019-03-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Pascal Obry  [03-29-19 19:11]:
> 
> Please see:
> 
> https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2310
> 
> Wait for a solution to be proposed for this.

I do not see this with git829.9c9ed7e64-1090 on openSUSE Tumbleweed
20190327
or I have failed to set the conditions which result in this.

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Re: [darktable-dev] do not use dt 2.7

2019-03-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan  [03-29-19 19:36]:
> * Pascal Obry  [03-29-19 19:11]:
> > 
> > Please see:
> > 
> > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2310
> > 
> > Wait for a solution to be proposed for this.
> 
> I do not see this with git829.9c9ed7e64-1090 on openSUSE Tumbleweed
> 20190327
> or I have failed to set the conditions which result in this.

disregard, sorry.

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Re: [darktable-dev] Opening RAW from GIMP works no more

2019-04-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Maurizio Paglia  [04-08-19 17:13]:
> Hi,
> since a period of time I cannot open no more raw files from GIMP.
> Open GIMP
> Open file (*.NEF)
> Darktable window will open but remain all black and hangs
> 
> GIMP 2.10.10
> dt 2.6.2

and the plug-in to import raw files into gimp is provided in the gimp
package, not by darktable

  ???
  

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Re: [darktable-dev] ATTENTION: darktable master may have some GUI glitches

2019-04-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Pascal Obry  [04-13-19 05:22]:
> Hello Matej,
> 
> > I'm not sure whether this is intended behaviour or a bug, please see
> > the linked image. The font is a lot bigger, and overall the GUI
> > doesn't look as "refined" as before. 
> 
> This looks ok to me. The font is indeed a bit bigger by default and the
> whole interface has a bit more spaces here and there. This is to answer
> recurrent request about all items being too small.
> 
> I'm expecting to see a compact version of the default theme. But this
> will need time. We will certainly have more CSS in fact as it is now
> possible to have control over all items on the GUI.

the font does appear big or rather thick.  it is perhaps BOLD.  I agree
for my screen that it is easier to read but would appear more pleasant if
not quite so bold.

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Re: [darktable-dev] ATTENTION: darktable master may have some GUI glitches

2019-04-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan  [04-13-19 08:38]:
> * Pascal Obry  [04-13-19 05:22]:
> > Hello Matej,
> > 
> > > I'm not sure whether this is intended behaviour or a bug, please see
> > > the linked image. The font is a lot bigger, and overall the GUI
> > > doesn't look as "refined" as before. 
> > 
> > This looks ok to me. The font is indeed a bit bigger by default and the
> > whole interface has a bit more spaces here and there. This is to answer
> > recurrent request about all items being too small.
> > 
> > I'm expecting to see a compact version of the default theme. But this
> > will need time. We will certainly have more CSS in fact as it is now
> > possible to have control over all items on the GUI.
> 
> the font does appear big or rather thick.  it is perhaps BOLD.  I agree
> for my screen that it is easier to read but would appear more pleasant if
> not quite so bold.

duh, I retract my ill-advised comment.

the font on my display is quite fine, pleasant and acceptable.  perhaps
default font on the OP's display is odd?

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Re: [darktable-dev] ATTENTION: darktable master may have some GUI glitches

2019-04-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Pascal Obry  [04-13-19 02:55]:
> 
> A new large merge is about to happen.
> 
> This time it is on the GUI side. A large rewrite from Aurélien which
> makes everything related to layout, font size, etc... done directly in
> CSS. No more messing in GTK code to add GUI borders, spacing, colors...

playing mostly but noticed my previously reconfigured "previous image"
shortcut to "B" unshifted seems to toggle the screen zoom to ?borderless? 
and back rather than the previous image.  checked and reset shortcut to
unshifted "b" but still see the ?zoom?  action rather than the previous
image.  reset shortcut to "backspace" to no avail.  after setting five or
six different keys and several dt restarts, it now respects the unshifted
"B" and goes to previous image.

also notice something someone else mentioned recently.  I have unset and
unused "input color profile" default to "standard color matrix" as I am
using filmic.  advancing to next image or previous image invokes an
information window announcing "unsupported input color profile has been
replaced by linear Rec709 RGB!"

when drop-down menus display possible options, current selection is not
evident.  no color shift or indication which is current.

filing issues to GitHub

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Re: [darktable-dev] ATTENTION: darktable master may have some GUI glitches

2019-04-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan  [04-13-19 10:29]:
> * Pascal Obry  [04-13-19 02:55]:
> > 
> > A new large merge is about to happen.
> > 
> > This time it is on the GUI side. A large rewrite from Aurélien which
> > makes everything related to layout, font size, etc... done directly in
> > CSS. No more messing in GTK code to add GUI borders, spacing, colors...
> 
> playing mostly but noticed my previously reconfigured "previous image"
> shortcut to "B" unshifted seems to toggle the screen zoom to ?borderless? 
> and back rather than the previous image.  checked and reset shortcut to
> unshifted "b" but still see the ?zoom?  action rather than the previous
> image.  reset shortcut to "backspace" to no avail.  after setting five or
> six different keys and several dt restarts, it now respects the unshifted
> "B" and goes to previous image.

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2393

 
> also notice something someone else mentioned recently.  I have unset and
> unused "input color profile" default to "standard color matrix" as I am
> using filmic.  advancing to next image or previous image invokes an
> information window announcing "unsupported input color profile has been
> replaced by linear Rec709 RGB!"

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2394

 
> when drop-down menus display possible options, current selection is not
> evident.  no color shift or indication which is current.

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2395



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[darktable-dev] Re: [darktable-org/darktable] input color profile notice (#2394)

2019-04-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* edgardoh  [04-13-19 10:58]:
> If you can build a PR try #2389 and run it with -d perf, this seems to
> happen when the thumb is generated, but I would like to confirm it.
 
color me dumbbb.  I use master builds for openSUSE by darix and the
latest/last is darktable-2.7.0~git996.ef3752478-1161

the subject collection was not newly imported and when imported the import
color profile was not active.

or, I do not understand.

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Re: [darktable-dev] ATTENTION: darktable master may have some GUI glitches

2019-04-14 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* David Vincent-Jones  [04-14-19 19:13]:
> I am running Manjaro with the XFCE desktop. I have now increased the width
> of my side panels to 340, changed the screen dpi and reduced my desktop font
> size but still am having problems to see the full length of menu items. I am
> using the default Gnome theme if that has any bearing on the problem.
> 
> Some of the fonts appear to be responding to change but some fonts appear to
> in Bold and do not change.
> 
> Can somebody with an XFCE desktop please advise the font name and setup that
> works with the new GUI.
> 
> David
> 
> On 2019-04-13 7:38 a.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Patrick Shanahan  [04-13-19 10:29]:
> > > * Pascal Obry  [04-13-19 02:55]:
> > > > A new large merge is about to happen.
> > > > 
> > > > This time it is on the GUI side. A large rewrite from Aurélien which
> > > > makes everything related to layout, font size, etc... done directly in
> > > > CSS. No more messing in GTK code to add GUI borders, spacing, colors...
> > > playing mostly but noticed my previously reconfigured "previous image"
> > > shortcut to "B" unshifted seems to toggle the screen zoom to ?borderless?
> > > and back rather than the previous image.  checked and reset shortcut to
> > > unshifted "b" but still see the ?zoom?  action rather than the previous
> > > image.  reset shortcut to "backspace" to no avail.  after setting five or
> > > six different keys and several dt restarts, it now respects the unshifted
> > > "B" and goes to previous image.
> > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2393
> > 
> > > also notice something someone else mentioned recently.  I have unset and
> > > unused "input color profile" default to "standard color matrix" as I am
> > > using filmic.  advancing to next image or previous image invokes an
> > > information window announcing "unsupported input color profile has been
> > > replaced by linear Rec709 RGB!"
> > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2394
> > 
> > > when drop-down menus display possible options, current selection is not
> > > evident.  no color shift or indication which is current.
> > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2395
> > 
> > 
> > 

there was notice on pixls.us that at least gtk3-3.22 was necessary.  are
you at that level?

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