Re: Debian Installer beta2 working on an OldWorld PowerMac-6500/225

2004-01-22 Thread Rick Thomas
, Rick Thomas wrote: Hardware: PowerMac 6500/225 with 128MB of RAM and a 6GB SCSI disk partitioned as 2.5GB for MacOS, 3.0 GB for Linux root (an all-in-one filesystem) and 500 MB for Linux swap. It also has a SCSI CD-RW drive and a floppy drive. Software: MacOS 9.1 with Roxio Toast

Re: using beta 2 install on oldworld powermac

2004-01-22 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Rolando, I'm also trying to get debian installer working on an OldWorld PowerMac. See my comments below... Enjoy! Rick Rolando Abarca wrote: Hello, this is my second try to install sarge on my PowerMac 7200/120, this time ... snip ... Everything went smooth from here, until it tried

Re: goals for next release

2004-01-30 Thread Rick Thomas
I like it! Ideally, the selector would look at the sub-arch and only offer those bootloader options that work on that sub-arch? Rick On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 03:39 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ideally, but i don't know if this is beta2 stuff, a bootloader selector would be done, which on

Re: Bits about countrychooser and languagechooser

2004-01-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Yeah! Please do this! On Sunday, January 25, 2004, at 09:26 PM, Jeremie Koenig wrote: Also, what about adding the C and POSIX locales somehow ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Red X -- was: Re: new oldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies, root size should be ok, net_drivers still too big, please test.

2004-08-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sunday, August 29, 2004, at 04:31 AM, Rick_Thomas wrote: I tried the new 2.4 PowerMac floppys today. Now I get the Red X on the 2.4 boot floppy as well. I did an experiment... I mounted the 2.4 boot floppy and extracted the zImage file, uncompressed it, and compared it to the

Re: Red X -- was: Re: new oldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies, root size should be ok, net_drivers still too big, please test.

2004-08-29 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Is it possible the objcopy is corrupting it? This is indeed a possibility. I will disable this again for the 2.4 floppies, and we will see tomorrow what happens. That said, the 2.6 floppies are too big to work with miboot without the objcopy -O

Re: Red X -- not quite gone yet...

2004-08-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, August 30, 2004, at 04:41 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 08:23:28AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 01:58:34AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Is it possible the objcopy is corrupting it? This is indeed a possibility. I

Re: Red X -- not quite gone yet...

2004-09-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven, It's 2:15 AM, and I've got a meeting tomorrow at work, so I won't be able to test these tonight. I'll try to get to them tomorrow (9/1) in the evening (US East Coast time). Please do me a favor and loop-mount the images to see if they have all the expected pieces and the pieces are of

Re: Red X saga -- success!!! (up to a point...)

2004-09-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, at 04:45 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, try out : http://people.debian.org/~luther/miboot/floppy-2.6-2004.09.01 I have checked the ofonlyboot, boot and root floppies. I tried this -- the usual 30 seconds or so of floppy noises followed by Red X for both the boot and

Bug#269529: OldWorld pmac installation -- several problems

2004-09-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: Can you mail the /var/log/debian-installer/syslog and messages to this The complete set of logs and other system info from that install are available at: http://rcthomas.org:7879/~rbthomas/logfiles/install-6500/ I can mail them to the bug if you like, but why

Bug#269529: OldWorld pmac installation -- several problems

2004-09-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: http://rcthomas.org:7879/~rbthomas/logfiles/install-6500/ Permissions prevent me from reading the syslog. Fixed. Sorry! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#270239: Timezone configuration should not show 'UTC' after system time

2004-09-06 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans Pop wrote: On Monday 06 September 2004 19:53, Joey Hess wrote: AfAIK hwclock output never includes the timezone. I'm afraid it does. On a system installed with LANG=en_US (on which I based my report): # hwclock --show --localtime | awk '{NF-=2; print $0}' Mon 06 Sep 2004

Bug#270239: Timezone configuration should not show 'UTC' after system time

2004-09-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, September 6, 2004, at 11:00 PM, Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Apparently, it looks at the LANG environment variable... LANG=C /sbin/hwclock --show --localtime gives Tue Sep 7 02:22:16 2004 -0.463550 seconds but LANG=en_US /sbin/hwclock --show --localtime

Bug#270599: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 05:18 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 04:17:55AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: Package: installation-reports powerpc boot-floppy 20040906 OldWorld PowerMac ... Then I tried the boot floppy. It gave me the tuxmac and made reading noises.

Bug#270599: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-09 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 09:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 05:18 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Please try again with todays floppies, and if it doesn't fix the problem, we need to investigate what driver is missing or something. I'll try the new floppies tonight

Bug#270599: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 9, 2004, at 12:45 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 09:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 05:18 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Please try again with todays floppies, and if it doesn't fix the problem, we need to investigate what

Bug#270599: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 11, 2004, at 07:11 AM, Russell Hires wrote: P.S. jokingWhen are you finally going to start work on the manual?/joking All joking aside... That is an important task! But I kinda figured it was less important than getting the software working at all on oldworld hardware,

Re: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 9, 2004, at 01:23 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:45:29PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Ummm... The contents of http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ haven't changed in the last few days. Is the build process stalled

Re: HELP: Failed powerpc autobuild upload again, p.d.o is rejecting my rsync.

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Then it's probably not a hardware problem. On Sunday, September 12, 2004, at 06:00 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 05:10:53AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 03:06, Sven Luther wrote: Here is the error in my log : powerpc/netboot/2.4/vmlinuz-chrp.initrd

Bug#271417: Select keyboard defaults to European when American English is expected on OldWorld PowerPC

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac See Note 2 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271418: After reboot wrong ethernet interface is primary on Oldworld PowerPC Macintosh

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac See note 3 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271419: mesh SCSI driver should be loaded by default on OldWorld Powermac

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac See Note 1 below... INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name

Bug#271421: Printserver task setup defaults to a4 paper when letter is expected.

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac see note 5 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271420: Default kernel image is 2.6.7 -- should be 2.6.8 -- on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac See note 4 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271423: Floppy driver not loaded during install process on OldWorld PowerPC Macs

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac see note 6 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271424: Partitioner is checking active swap files!!!

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac See note 7 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271419: mesh SCSI driver should be loaded by default on OldWorld Powermac

2004-09-13 Thread Rick Thomas
PROTECTED]:~$ Enjoy! Rick On Monday, September 13, 2004, at 06:36 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 12:45:00AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Note 1: This machine has a SCSI Zip drive is on the apple mesh scsi controller. Before the discover disks phase, I had to go

Bug#271419: mesh SCSI driver should be loaded by default on OldWorld Powermac

2004-09-13 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks! I await the fix with baited breath... (Like the cat beside the mouse hole. -8) Enjoy! Rick On Monday, September 13, 2004, at 07:49 AM, Colin Watson wrote: reassign 271419 hw-detect tags 271419 pending thanks On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 07:15:17AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: The following

Bug#270599: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 10, 2004, at 05:04 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: The ofonlyboot has not changed. It reads and inverts the colors of the tuxmac, but never switches to text-mode screen from the inverted color tuxmac. The boot floppy reads and switches to the text screen then asks for the root

Bug#270599: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: Oh, and btw, I'm just installing my oldworld 4400/200 mac with d-i and the daily built 2.4-floppy images (with root.img and root-2.img) and it seems to work fine - right now. I'll keep you informed in another mail. BTW, as of tomorrows build, the 2.6 images should

Bug#270599: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 17, 2004, at 01:00 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 09:42:09AM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote: [Lots of stuff about what's where in a beige G3 ...] Bottom line, Sven, what pieces of information about the G3 do you need from me? Enjoy! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Bug#270599: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 17, 2004, at 03:55 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 02:31:09AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Meanwhile, back at the 2.4 ranch... The 2.4 boot floppy read, switched to text mode, asked for root, which read, asked for language (English), then gave me a blue screen

Re: No /dev/modem or similar created on PowerPC?

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 17, 2004, at 03:12 PM, Joey Hess wrote: Russell Hires wrote: I'm just poking around on my G3/266 and I'm noticing that I don't have a /dev/modem, or any tty that links to it. Does the d-i create such a device only if you say that you want to install via ppp? This could be a

Bug#270599: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 09:55:17AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Definitively a bug in discover, could you fill a bug report against discover1 with your lspci and lspci -n output ? You won't get much help out of lspci. These are not PCI devices. The macio chip shows up as one huge PCI device, and

Bug#272310: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac G3 tower

2004-09-19 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports I tried the PowerMac install floppy set from the 18th Index of /~luther/d-i/images/2004-09-18/powerpc/floppy-2.4 NameLast modified Size Description

No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-20 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports In addition to the already noted problems with 2.4 PowerPC boot floppies, I have two requests for modules to be included on the root or root-2: 1) The change installation priority menu item should be available *very* early in the install process. Best would be

NewWorld Blue White Mac Powerpc install -- problems with firewire and aec62xx driver.

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last modified Size Description

Bug#272967: Acknowledgement (NewWorld Blue White Mac Powerpc install -- problems with firewire and aec62xx driver.)

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
I forgot to add: Note 5: Several times during the installation, I got an error message telling me that some modules were not loaded because they could not be found: ide-mod, ide-probe-mod, ide-detect, ide-generic Note 6: I installed the same netinst CD on my beige G3 tower, using BootX

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 11:02 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 05:05:58PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Package: installation-reports In addition to the already noted problems with 2.4 PowerPC boot floppies, I have two requests for modules to be included on the root or root-2

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:13 PM, Sven Luther wrote: I understand the size constraints. But isn't that the reason why we added the root-2 floppy? Would adding hfs and/or hfsplus kick us over the edge into root-3 land? We could indeed add it to root-2, but i would prefer to get the

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:45 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 06:30:48PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:13 PM, Sven Luther wrote: I understand the size constraints. But isn't that the reason why we added the root-2 floppy? Would adding

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:13 PM, Sven Luther wrote: I wrote: I understand the size constraints. But isn't that the reason why we added the root-2 floppy? Would adding hfs and/or hfsplus kick us over the edge into root-3 land? We could indeed add it to root-2, but i would prefer to

Re: Oldworld Serial Console

2004-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 24, 2004, at 09:17 AM, Gregory Seidman wrote: In fact, I can attest to using an ordinary Mac printer cable between my Oldworld Mac running Linux and my dual G4 with a Keyspan adapter and running MacOS X. I use minicom on the Mac and have set up quik, not BootX, to allow me to

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 04:13 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 01:50:34AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: ROOT-2) The root-2 floppy is a bunch of udebs for all the components that wouldn't fit on root. [This is a good design, but it requires that root have everything needed

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 04:49 PM, Colin Watson wrote: Bringing things back into sync with other architectures is worth it on its own, and reducing the number of floppies required for an installation was one of the original goals of d-i. After my changes, there's *loads* of room left

Re: Sarge on OldWorld Mac - No root device

2004-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Duane, Did you install a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel? The 2.6 kernel requires an initial ramdisk. The 2.4 kernel (usually) does not. The kernel installer leaves a kernel and a tailored initrd in the /boot partition. You need to copy them into the appropriate places inside the MacOS System folder

Re: Sarge on OldWorld Mac - No root device

2004-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sunday, September 26, 2004, at 08:34 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: I'm going to start another thread concerning the fact that my scsi hard drive wasn't detected during the entire installation. You probably have a mesh SCSI controller. Almost all OldWorld Apple machines had them. Early on in the

Re: floppy root.img sizes

2004-10-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 15, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: Hi all, Sorry if this is the wrong list for this... I have been testing daily sarge floppy install images from http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/floppy/ for a few weeks on OldWorld Macs. That is, until October 8. Since then,

Re: Debian Sarge on oldworld Powermac?

2004-06-13 Thread Rick Thomas
Reset (zap) the PRAM. Turn the power off, then turn it on with the Command-Option-P-R keys (all of them) held down. Hold the keys down til it bongs a couple of times, then release and it should boot normally from floppy. Rick On Sunday, June 13, 2004, at 05:51 AM, matt-land.com wrote: On

Re: Minutes of #debian-boot meeting of 20040706 (was: Debian Installer IRCmeeting on Tuesday 07/06 20:00 UTC)

2004-07-09 Thread Rick Thomas
powerpc === In unstable, 2.4 and 2.6 both work fine on newworld pmac. 2.4 oldworld pmac is unbootable, but then again it always has been. It is reasonable to move for a 2.6 powerpc kernel for sarge, for all currently supported architectures, the support for those is better, and

Bug#258422: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/07 fails toinstall

2004-07-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040707/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: 11 PM EDT July 9, 2004 Method: How did you install? What did you boot

Re: Minutes of #debian-boot meeting of 20040706 (was: Debian Installer IRCmeeting on Tuesday 07/06 20:00 UTC)

2004-07-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Last night I tried installing both 2.4 and 2.6 on my OldWorld Beige G3. (using the sarge netinst daily CD from 2004/07/07) Neither worked, but for different reasons. I've sent installation reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't yet shown

Re: Minutes of #debian-boot meeting of 20040706 (was: Debian Installer IRCmeeting on Tuesday 07/06 20:00 UTC)

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Rick Thomas wrote: Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Last night I tried installing both 2.4 and 2.6 on my OldWorld Beige G3. (using the sarge netinst daily CD from 2004/07/07) Neither worked, but for different reasons. I've sent installation reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Bug#258541: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/08 fails toinstall

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040708/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: early AM EDT Saturday, July 10, 2004 Method: How did you install? What

Bug#258545: OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/08 success (mostly)

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040708/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.25-powerpc #1 mer avr 14 15:38:38 CEST 2004 ppc GNU/Linux Date: 11 PM EDT July 9, 2004 Method: How

Bug#258545: OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/08 success (mostly)

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, July 10, 2004, at 07:33 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 03:46:29AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Everything went like clockwork except that it tried to install the quik bootloader. IT's not supposed to do that for OldWorld machines, is it? This is a beige G3 minitower

three different sets of daily ISOs -- what's the difference?

2004-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
There are three (seemingly) different sets of daily ISOs at http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040710/ http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d- i/powerpc/20040710/ http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/powerpc/20040710/ Can anybody explain

Bug#258907: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac businesscard daily CD 2004/07/11 fails initial reboot

2004-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040711/sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: early AM EDT Saturday, July 12, 2004 Method: How did you install?

Bug#258908: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac sid_d-i businesscard daily CD 2004/07/11 fails installing unstable

2004-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040711/sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: early AM EDT Saturday, July 12, 2004 Method: How did you install?

Re: powerpc status and missing 2.6.7 .udebs and .debs in sarge.

2004-07-16 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 11:45:38AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 11:07, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:55:36AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: Last night I downloaded and installed on my test-machine [beige G3 mini-tower (OldWorld)]

Re: testing beyond Intel [PATCH]

2004-03-18 Thread Rick Thomas
If not, ask smart questions[1] [1] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I sincerely hope that what I've been asking so far are not viewed as dumb questions! Here's my first feedback on the manual (since I have to read the manual before I can start using the installer!)

Re: testing beyond Intel [PATCH]

2004-03-18 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans, That's wonderful! However, nothing's easy. I get not found errors from both of those links. Am I missing something? Thanks! Rick Frans Pop wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 03:35, Rick_Thomas wrote: Is the Preliminary Sarge

Re: testing beyond Intel [PATCH]

2004-03-18 Thread Rick Thomas
Ahhh... That worked! As I said, Nothing's easy!. I need the PowerPC version. This one's for the i386. Could I impose on you to generate a PowerPC version for me? (Sorry to be a pain!) Thanks in advance! Rick Frans Pop wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry,

Re: Sarge/beta-3 on a RS6000/7025-F50 (PPC 604e, CHRP)

2004-03-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, March 20, 2004, at 01:22 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, copying to debian-boot, since this is most relevant there, and to rick thomas, which volunteered to help with installation manual. Rick, this is a boot method on a chrp-rs6k ibm box. I don't know if you are familiar with these boxes

Re: testing beyond Intel [PATCH]

2004-03-20 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks! This will be very helpful. Please see my notes below... On Saturday, March 20, 2004, at 04:17 AM, Miroslav Kure wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:42:51AM -0500, Rick_Thomas wrote: I would be very grateful If you (or someone else on this list) could point me at the chapters and sections

Re: testing beyond Intel [PATCH]

2004-03-21 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks! You're very kind. I'm still (figuratively) learning where the bathrooms are, but with help from friends like you I'll be up and running in no time. I'll have to learn how to do svs, docbook, xml and so on myself eventually, and that's one of my top priorities. In the mean time,

Re: suggestion: something to add!

2004-03-21 Thread Rick Thomas
Let me second Jeremy's suggestion. I keep DHCP turned on on my router because my printer needs it, but I much prefer to have everything (except the printer -- sigh!) have statically assigned IP addresses. I know I could do that with DHCP, but why bother if I don't have to? Enjoy! Rick On

Re: suggestion: something to add!

2004-03-21 Thread Rick Thomas
Here's a larger question: Why do I have to subject myself to the full-monty expert mode when I just want one tiny feature that isn't completely covered by normal mode? Shouldn't it be possible to dip down into expert territory for just the parts you need fine control over, and return to

Re: OldWorld floppy images

2004-03-23 Thread Rick Thomas
(and abused!) by students in a public computer lab. I'll try swapping the floppy drive with a known good one and try again. Though that may take a couple of days. So, can we make a root.img file that will fit on a 1.440 MB disk? Hope this helps! Rick Rick Thomas wrote: Thanks, I'll

Re: OldWorld floppy images

2004-03-25 Thread Rick Thomas
Jeremie Koenig wrote: On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 11:35:04AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: so I may not have picked the right module(s). Which ones should I have used? You mean, in anna when loading the floppy ? Pickup everything, and hopefully your scsi host will be detected. -- Jeremie

Re: OldWorld floppy images

2004-03-27 Thread Rick Thomas
Malte, Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. Buy and use a floppy drive cleaning kit (a bottle of isopropanol and a floppy-like thing with a non-abrasive fibrous disk in place of the usual shiny oxide coated disk). Don't be afraid to use it couple of times if

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-03-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Maybe we could get the boot-sector code declared OK to use by Apple? It would be a hack the system kind of thing, but I suppose technically they wouldn't have to release the copyright on the source code for the boot sector, just the derived sequence of binary bits. Indeed, Apple may have

Bug#240602: boot-floppies: sarge - there may be multiple driver floppies - need to ask for more

2004-03-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Yes. It's the new debian-installer on an OldWorld PowerMac. Jeremie has pointed out that one floppy worth of drivers should be enough to give you access to either a CD-ROM or a network, and that's all you really need. So this is actually a wishlist request. I have no problem with that. So

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-03-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Here's a thought. First some background: Last night, just to prove it could be done, I succeeded (first try) in using BootX under MacOS9 on an OldWorld PowerMac G3 (beige mini-tower) to load and run the debian-installer kernel and initrd downloaded from:

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-03-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: Rick wrote: Now the part of debian-installer that died on me last night has an easy fix: Simply do not install any boot loader at all for that subarchitecture. Rick, Quik can easily be used to boot from CD, no problem, sadly it cannot be used to boot from floppies,

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-03-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: I got as far as the point where the d-i tries to install a bootloader. It died there because there is no boot loader for the oldworld subarchitecture. It's good to know that it got that far. Declare that all OldWorld machines must have

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-03-29 Thread Rick Thomas
language, not PowerPC. Hope that helps! Rick On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 02:32 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 07:00:06PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote I'll do whatever I can to help with testing. No problem. If you feel like disassembling the miboot stage 1 boot-sector, and providing me

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, March 30, 2004, at 10:47 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:01:49PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 10:56:21PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Google macintosh boot block turns up official Apple information

Re: corrections

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Simon, Can you give a blow-by-blow installation procedure for installing debian on oldworld Macs without BootX? I've done it for woody with BootX -- I haven't figured out how to do woody without BootX. Unfortunately, sarge has completely eluded me so far -- with or without BootX. Thanks!

Re: goals for next release

2004-03-31 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: I would also vote for : ESC abort current action if possible and drop back in the main menu (at possibly a lower priority). If abortion is not possible, you simply do the drop back at the earliest possible convenience. Sorry, was not talking about the help

Bug#241516: install-report success (sort of) on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-04-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Date: daily for powerpc for March 30, 2004. Image from: http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/powerpc/20040330/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.25-powerpc #1 ven mar

Bug#241228: Oldworld from floppy, installing the kernel fails

2004-04-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: Another solution would be for base-installer to install the -powerpc kernel on your box too, since the main reason to use the -powerpc-small kernel is so that it will fit on a floppy with miboot. Would it be possible to restrict use of -powerpc-small kernel to just

Bug#241228: Oldworld from floppy, installing the kernel fails

2004-04-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, April 1, 2004, at 05:57 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: another mail, same topic: Is there support for setting open firmware values in debian-installer at the moment ? Not yet, but you are welcome to provide patches. We'll see, I will try to setup a d-i build this weekend or next week

Bug#242143: boot-floppy: no way to do expert mode boot from floppy on OldWorld PowerMac (at least)

2004-04-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: boot-floppy Severity: normal Subject: boot-floppy: no way to do expert mode boot from floppy on OldWorld PowerMac (at least) On OldWorld PowerPC Macintoshes there is no way for a user to do an expert mode boot starting from the boot floppys. I suppose theoretically that one can do

Bug#242144: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader

2004-04-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal Subject: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader On OldWorld PowerPC Macs the yaboot bootloader doesn't work. Without resorting to expert mode (DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium or better) there is no way to

Bug#242144: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader

2004-04-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, April 5, 2004, at 07:12 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 04:29:14PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Subject: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader The installer should automatically recognize the OldWorld subarchitecture

Re: Fw: Request for review of partman-newworld

2004-04-07 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans Pop wrote: Hello Rick, Are you still planning to work on the manual for Macs? If so, could you take a look at the text below, snip Yes I am. I got side-tracked for a while in testing d-i on old-world Macs. Thanks for the words. I'll take a look at it this weekend. Enjoy! Rick

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-04-07 Thread Rick Thomas
I just had an interesting conversation with an Apple developer (Apple employee) regarding the legal status of the boot sector for oldworld Macs. He pointed out that Darwin runs (and boots) on (at least) the beige G3, and that's oldworld. I don't know anything about Darwin except that it's

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-08 Thread Rick Thomas
Malte, Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. In particular, if the boot floppy is ejected, it means that the firmware got an error trying to read it, or couldn't find the magic numbers in the magic places that it was expecting from a real-live Macintosh boot

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi! See comments interleaved below... Rick Malte Cornils wrote: Hi Rick, On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. In particular, if the boot floppy is ejected, it means that the firmware

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Malte, Rick, does this mean that the daily build floppies work for you now ? Friendly, Sven Luther Yes. It reads all the floppies and launches d-i as expected. I still have problems with d-i once

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 09 April 2004 20:40, you wrote: Booting off of floppy, there is no way to invoke ...PRIORITY=medium mode. It just does the default. Are you sure? You have to enter 'linux DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium' Frans This is OldWorld PowerMac. Booting off of floppy

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sunday, April 11, 2004, at 01:56 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok. Now wee need to see why this happens. It seems that nobody was able to make it work with the boot floppies built by me, is that exact ? Only by those built by Jeremie. We need to find out why. Jeremie, did you modify the kernel

Re: Bug#243166: eject should provide a .udeb, so that an eject menu item can be found in debian-installer.

2004-04-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 12:28:11AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: tags 243166 moreinfo help thanks On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: A .udeb package would allow to eject the cdrom during the install. Would be particularly usefull

Re: d-i, FAI, quik-installer for oldworld, debconf4

2004-04-13 Thread Rick Thomas
Holger Levsen wrote: snip I would like to start hacking a quik-installer (for oldworld powerpc) now, but I am a little unsure how to test it on my own: Since my only oldworld system to develop with is a pmac4400 at the moment I have to boot if from floppies. Then I'll usually insert the

Bug#244394: FWD: eject-udeb

2004-04-19 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: snip Still, i wonder were the right place would be for this .udeb : 1) in the cdrom iinitrd to have access to it as soon as possible ? (it doesn't seem to appear though in the first stage of debian-installer's main menu, don't know why though). 2) have

Bug#244367: PowerPC install from boot floppy mostly successful - still some problems.

2004-04-19 Thread Rick Thomas
I'll give it a try this evening (US/Eastern time zone) Enjoy! Rick Matt Kraai wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 04:04:13AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: 1) It automatically ejected the boot floppy when asking for the root floppy. Thanks for that, whoever put that patch in. However, when

Bug#244099: your installation report

2004-04-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 01:47 AM, Joey Hess wrote: Note that if you hit the go back button at the hostname question, you'll get to the main menu, and hitting enter will let you choose how to configure it. Thanks! That solves my problem. However, we still need to get some way to set the

D-I Etch+1/2 CD images for non x86/x86-64 arch?

2008-07-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:24 PM, dann frazier wrote: Let me try and reiterate some points of your proposal to make sure I understand. The only install media for etchnhalf will be netinst cds. These cds will be limited to i386, amd64, and other archs for which a need is demonstrated. It sounds good

Re: Setting FSCKFIX=yes on certain machines

2008-08-14 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 14, 2008, at 4:50 AM, Martin Michlmayr wrote: We have to set FSCKFIX=yes in /etc/default/rcS on machines that don't have any I/O devices to follow the boot process, otherwise fsck might prompt the user to press a key and this is not possible. This is mostly needed on NAS devices. They

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