Re: Status of new source formats project

2009-08-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 04:55:16PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > I updated the wiki page listing the status of this project: > http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0 Bonjour Raphaël, first of all, thank you for making things progress for the support of a next-generation source format

Re: merge sensible-browser in xdg-open AKA how to select the "best" browser

2009-08-02 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi, I think we make clear our opinions, like they were clear on IRC; but the reason I started this thread is to have *others* opinions. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 21:12, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Sandro Tosi [090801 20:22]: >> x-o is just a glue around other too to try to identify the best >> candi

Re: emacs23 uploaded to unstable

2009-08-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Rob Browning: > I've uploaded the first emacs23 packages (23.1+1-1) to unstable. Please > file bugs as appropriate. Has anybody else experienced the FTBFS related to the removal of dir.old? It also seems to me that the Truetype-capable redisplay code is much, much slower, especially during sc

Re: emacs23 uploaded to unstable

2009-08-02 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-08-02 09:58 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Rob Browning: > >> I've uploaded the first emacs23 packages (23.1+1-1) to unstable. Please >> file bugs as appropriate. > > Has anybody else experienced the FTBFS related to the removal of > dir.old? Not me (building in pbuilder). > It also s

Re: emacs23 uploaded to unstable

2009-08-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Sven Joachim: >> Has anybody else experienced the FTBFS related to the removal of >> dir.old? > > Not me (building in pbuilder). My sid pbuilder is currently somewhat hosed (due to lack of current aptitude on amd64). 8-/ I will re-check when it's fixed. >> It also seems to me that the Truetype

Re: emacs23 uploaded to unstable

2009-08-02 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-08-02 10:38 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Sven Joachim: >> >> I haven't tried emacs23 yet, but on recent emacs-snapshot packages I did >> not experience much of a slowdown compared to emacs22. There is often a >> delay when Emacs has to display characters that cannot be represented >>

Re: Status of new source formats project

2009-08-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > But actually, among the programs that are not distributed upstream in a tar.gz > format, we in the Debian Med team have as many zip cases as bzip2. Do you > think > that it would be possible to support zip format (i.e. .zip, .jar and .xpi > extensions)

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:36:16PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Do you think that limitation is enough to change from one ddeb per source > package? Should we maybe allow any number of ddebs, and only build one ddeb in > the common case? Or allow both one ddeb per source package and one p

Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-08-02 Thread Siggy Brentrup
Hi, sorry for the late reply, we were celebrating my wife's birthday at the seaside until yesterday late in the evenign. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 17:53 +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: > On Fri Jul 31, 2009 at 18:47:58 +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote: > > > Who wrote debmirror? Without installing I can't fi

What is the best place for package meta-data ?

2009-08-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, In the Debian Med and Science teams, we are looking for efficient ways to document slow-changing metadata relevant to our packages, in particular: - Bibliographic information: which article to cite when a software is used in a published scientific work. This can be summarised by a d

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): > So: what should I do? I'm thinking about orphaning the package as a > first step, and if nobody takes care of it as much as it is needed, > just remove it from the distribution. Packaging would still be > available in a git repository, so if someone som

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:42PM +0200, Meike Reichle wrote: > * Discard and rebuild of binary packages uploaded by maintainers, >leaving only packages build in a controlled environment Hear hear \o/, wonderful news! I'm eager for more details, in particular: - which auto-builder will r

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Julien BLACHE
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > - do we have an estimate of whether architectures for which we often > upload compiled packages (amd64/i386) have enough buildd power to > cope with the load increase? That, and buildd admin resources for log processing/signing. JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debian &

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:59:44 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > - as a by product, would this enable binNMUs for arch:all packages? > Pretty sure it won't, since many packages assume that .dsc version and _all.deb version are the same. You'd have to solve that somehow. Cheers, Julien --

Re: Status of new source formats project

2009-08-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 11:03:11AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > On Sun, 02 Aug 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: About zip support: > > But actually, among the programs that are not distributed upstream in a > > tar.gz > > format, we in the Debian Med team have as many zip cases as bzip2. Do you

Re: What is the best place for package meta-data ?

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Wise
I think tying such information to a source or binary package is a bad idea since it changes independently of the package. I have similar issues with the Homepage field and to a lesser extent, watch files. Do you think that apt needs to have access to this information? The Packages/Sources files a

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm eager for more details, in particular: In addition: I seem to remember that some arch:all packages can only be built on some architectures due to being firmware for specific CPUs or similar. Will there be a Build-Arch field or a w

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Daniel Baumann
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > - which auto-builder will rebuild arch:all packages? especially because this will break packages with 'faked' arch:all binary packages, such as e.g. syslinux where syslinux-common has to be build on i386. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562

Re: merge sensible-browser in xdg-open AKA how to select the "best" browser

2009-08-02 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Sun Aug 02 09:26, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > All I ask for is that you understand that you are about the change the > > relavant semantics of something security relevant, and act accordingly. > > What? all I'm trying to do is say "hey man, if you need to open a url, > do it with x-o as you've done

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Frans Pop
Paul Wise wrote: > I seem to remember that some arch:all packages can only be built on > some architectures due to being firmware for specific CPUs or similar. > Will there be a Build-Arch field or a way to override discarding > uploaded .debs? An option to override the discard would also be usefu

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Luk Claes
Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > >> I'm eager for more details, in particular: > > In addition: > > I seem to remember that some arch:all packages can only be built on > some architectures due to being firmware for specific CPUs or similar. > Will

Orphaned: Gutenprint (if you care about inkjet printing, please read)

2009-08-02 Thread Roger Leigh
retitile 479397 O: gutenprint -- printer drivers for CUPS thanks Hi, I sent out a mail over a year ago looking for a new maintainer for the gutenprint Debian packaging. At the time, I put up an RFA (#479397). I'm now orphaning the package, and will only give it minimal attention. I no longer ha

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Luk Claes
Daniel Baumann wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> - which auto-builder will rebuild arch:all packages? > > especially because this will break packages with 'faked' arch:all binary > packages, such as e.g. syslinux where syslinux-common has to be build on > i386. This will be solved by an extra

Re: Status of new source formats project

2009-08-02 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Charles Plessy wrote: > I see that .bzip2 and .lzma are also supported compression methods for the 3.0 > (native) format as well as for the binary packages. But I do not think it > would > be useful to add zip to this list. It seems to me that the only thing needed > is > the capacity to unpack t

Re: Bug#535833: marked as done (general: Slow internet on iceweasel, epiphany and so on...)

2009-08-02 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-08-02, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >| Not only do you have the local loopback, you also have link-local >| addresses which you can legitimately use. Does zeroconf support >| these? Fundamentally breaking IPv6 for these use cases to work around >| broken routing hardware is IMO a step too far.

Bug#535833: marked as done (general: Slow internet on iceweasel, epiphany and so on...)

2009-08-02 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 08:39:46AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Roger Leigh > > | Having working local networking is important. We wouldn't consider > | broken IPv4 loopback acceptable, and broken IPv6 loopback is just as > | bad. > > Sure, having it working is important. Is it more impo

Bug#535833: marked as done (general: Slow internet on iceweasel, epiphany and so on...)

2009-08-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Roger Leigh | On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 08:39:46AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > ]] Roger Leigh | > | > | Having working local networking is important. We wouldn't consider | > | broken IPv4 loopback acceptable, and broken IPv6 loopback is just as | > | bad. | > | > Sure, having it worki

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Maximiliano Curia
Hola Cyril Brulebois! El 01/08/2009 a las 22:40 escribiste: > So: what should I do? I'm thinking about orphaning the package as a > first step, and if nobody takes care of it as much as it is needed, > just remove it from the distribution. Packaging would still be > available in a git repository,

Bug#539641: ITP: libcastledynamicproxy2.1-cli -- Castle DynamicProxy is a cli library for generating lightweight proxies on the fly at runtime. Proxy objects allow calls to members of an object to be

2009-08-02 Thread Patrick McEvoy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Patrick McEvoy * Package name: libcastledynamicproxy2.1-cli Version : 2.1.0 Upstream Author : Castle Project * URL : http://www.castleproject.org * License : ASL Programming Lang: C# Description : Castle DynamicP

Bug#539640: ITP: slimevolley -- Unrealistic 2D volleyball simulation, similar to Blobby Volley

2009-08-02 Thread Vincent Duvert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vincent Duvert * Package name: slimevolley Version : 2.4.1 Upstream Author : Vincent Duvert * URL : http://slime.tuxfamily.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Unrealistic 2D volleyball simulati

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Julien BLACHE
Luk Claes wrote: Hi, > There will be a Build-Arch field or some other way to make sure the > arch:all packages can be built reliably. How will this work wrt non-Linux ports? If you declare Build-Arch: i386, and that means the package should be built only from Linux/i386, that makes the kfreebs

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Julien BLACHE wrote: > Luk Claes wrote: > > Hi, > >> There will be a Build-Arch field or some other way to make sure the >> arch:all packages can be built reliably. > > How will this work wrt non-Linux ports? > > If you declare Build-Arch: i386, and that means the package should be > built onl

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-08-02, Julien BLACHE wrote: >> There will be a Build-Arch field or some other way to make sure the >> arch:all packages can be built reliably. > How will this work wrt non-Linux ports? > > If you declare Build-Arch: i386, and that means the package should be > built only from Linux/i386, t

Bug#535833: marked as done (general: Slow internet on iceweasel, epiphany and so on...)

2009-08-02 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 03:53:48PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Roger Leigh > > | On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 08:39:46AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | > Anyway, IIRC this is now solved in glibc by sending out the queries in > | > parallel and returning the first answer you get. > | > | OK.

Bug#539665: ITP: httpry -- HTTP logging and information retrieval tool

2009-08-02 Thread Yann Lejeun
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yann Lejeun * Package name: httpry Version : 0.1.5 Upstream Author : Jason Bittel * URL : http://dumpsterventures.com/jason/httpry/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : HTTP logging and information r

Re: maybe a problem with sid branch

2009-08-02 Thread Leinier Cruz Salfran
thanks both of you frans and daniel i must to get involved with reportbug El dom, 02-08-2009 a las 08:59 +0200, Frans Pop escribió: > Leinier Cruz Salfran wrote: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6-4.7 but it is not installable > > Depe

Re: Status of new source formats project

2009-08-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Sun, 02 Aug 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: >> But actually, among the programs that are not distributed upstream in a >> tar.gz format, we in the Debian Med team have as many zip cases as >> bzip2. Do you think that it would be possible to support zip format >> (i.e. .zi

Bug#506481: [Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#506481: initscripts: Fix to allow falsified cpu information in /proc/cpuinfo

2009-08-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Matthias Klose] > >> Right. This seem to be a problem that need to be solved by the > >> compiler, and not by initscripts. Reassigning to gcc. > > > > this has nothing to do with the compiler, which is built for a fixed > > arch/tune setting. >

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Cyril Brulebois
(I hope a single reply will also address Paul's and Christian's questions.) Maximiliano Curia (02/08/2009): > Hola Cyril Brulebois! Hola! (KiBi or Cyril would be sufficient. ;)) > Given the points you listed before, its understandable if you prefer > to dedicate your time to any other activity

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 01:46:17PM +0200, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > I'm eager for more details, in particular: > > In addition: > > I seem to remember that some arch:all packages can only be built on > some architectures due to being fir

Re: Status of new source formats project

2009-08-02 Thread Vincent Danjean
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Charles Plessy wrote: >> I see that .bzip2 and .lzma are also supported compression methods for the >> 3.0 >> (native) format as well as for the binary packages. But I do not think it >> would >> be useful to add zip to this list. It seems to me that the only thing

Re: Status of new source formats project

2009-08-02 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-08-02, Vincent Danjean wrote: > Unpacking a source package is not needed during an upgrade. However, it > occurs before > a build. > > So, I understand the question of Charles as "do we want that stable dpkg be > able to > unpack all packages from testing ?". I have no strong opinion for

Re: Status of new source formats project

2009-08-02 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 08:11:57PM +, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2009-08-02, Vincent Danjean wrote: > > Unpacking a source package is not needed during an upgrade. However, it > > occurs before > > a build. > > > > So, I understand the question of Charles as "do we want that stable dpkg be > >

Please test eglibc 2.9-23+multiarch.2 (was Please test eglibc 2.9-23+multiarch.1)

2009-08-02 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 02:00:18PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2009-07-29 22:12 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 04:10:27PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > >> In short it looks like a Pre-Depends is overkill, and that a Depends is > >> enough. I'll upload a new versio

Re: emacs23 uploaded to unstable

2009-08-02 Thread Rob Browning
Rob Browning writes: > Daniel Moerner writes: > >> Thanks for packaging this, I think you mean: >> >> http://alioth.debian.org/~rlb/tmp/emacs23/ >> >> Daniel > > Yes, and thanks. I've just uploaded 23.1+1-2 which fixes some significant problems with 23.1+1-1. Thanks -- Rob Browning rlb @defau

Re: emacs23 uploaded to unstable

2009-08-02 Thread Daniel Pittman
Rob Browning writes: > Rob Browning writes: >> Daniel Moerner writes: >> >>> Thanks for packaging this, I think you mean: >>> >>> http://alioth.debian.org/~rlb/tmp/emacs23/ >>> >>> Daniel >> >> Yes, and thanks. > > I've just uploaded 23.1+1-2 which fixes some significant problems with > 23.1+1-1

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): > 4) http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.blender.devel/19895 > > Patch to add support for system-wide FTGL. I kind of get flamed for > thinking about using something else than what blender provides. And > who cares about shared libraries anyway, th

Re: maybe a problem with sid branch

2009-08-02 Thread Muammar El Khatib
Hi, 2009/8/1 Leinier Cruz Salfran : > I disagree with you on this point .. where is success? in a civilized > discussion on the proposal and the exchange of ideas .. if we discover > that there is a problem why we will not publish this list, for example, > although it is obvious that this is a pro

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Ben Finney
Christian Perrier writes: > Just drop that blender thing and announce this loudly enough, > preferrably by coordinating with other distro maintainers. That will > eventually trigger a fork from people who have a more collaborative > way of thinking. This coordination would probably best be done

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Christian Perrier : Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): 4) http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.blender.devel/19895 Patch to add support for system-wide FTGL. I kind of get flamed for thinking about using something else than what blender provides. And who cares about sha